Dublin County Committee are delighted to confirm the appointment of Pat Gilroy as Dublin Senior Hurling Manager on a 3 year term.
Details of the full management team will be announced shortly.
Interesting to see who is team will be
It seems former Galway manager, Anthony Cunningham, will be part of Gilroy's team in a coaching capacity.
Was it ever in doubt that Dublin are gym monkeys and not hurlers?
No serious hurling county would put a footballer in charge of hurlers.
Something tells me that we've seen the last of Diarmuid as a county footballer.
I'm told he and Gilroy get along well together and Gavin now knows he can get along without him and Connolly knows this and doesn't seem to happy about it if you go by his antics during the warm up in the final.
If I was Gavin, I'd be wary of playing him again as his temper will always be suspect and opposition players will know this as well. Getting red carded against Carlow was bad enough but if it happened during the All Ireland final, it could be quite another matter. It wouldn't be worth the risk to play him, knowing you were likely to be a man short before the end of the game.
Besides, he is a very good hurler.
Quote from: Premier Emperor on October 11, 2017, 11:16:06 AM
Was it ever in doubt that Dublin are gym monkeys and not hurlers?
No serious hurling county would put a footballer in charge of hurlers.
Cody brought in Mick Dempsey from Laois in a bid to toughen them up a bit.
QuoteI'm told he and Gilroy get along well together and Gavin now knows he can get along without him and Connolly knows this and doesn't seem to happy about it if you go by his antics during the warm up in the final.
I've been told the exact opposite re himself and Gilroy :)
Quote from: Lar Naparka on October 11, 2017, 11:23:08 AM
Gavin now knows he can get along without him
The All-Ireland final proved the exact opposite.
Dublin would have lost had Connolly not come on.
Gavin tried to win the All-Ireland without Connolly. It was supreme arrogance on Gavin's part.
Dublin wouldnt have won the All Ireland without Connolly..kicked a glorious point, made the free for Rock as well as having a massive overall influence 2nd half
Also, his pass for Rock's fist point from play was absolutely sublime. I'm not his biggest fan but the team is stronger with him as an option. He is a good hurler though.
Quote from: easytiger95 on October 11, 2017, 12:25:09 PM
Also, his pass for Rock's fist point from play was absolutely sublime. I'm not his biggest fan but the team is stronger with him as an option. He is a good hurler though.
I can accept all of that without a bother but the fact remains that he had played in the final and got a red card for his troubles, the odds are that Mayo would have won that game, unless he was carded inside the last five minutes or do.
Gilroy and Diarmuid are Vins' men and the odds are that they will get along together.
Connolly said before in an interview that he prefered to watch Hurling over football. His father is from Kilkenny. Not that it means he will change over, but wouldn't be a surprise.
Gavin would be mad not to try and have Connolly on the football panel. He's one of the best forwards in the game and hence one of the best at Dublins disposal.
As for his hurling prowess I can't comment as club hurling is light years away from AI and Div1 intercounty hurling, but that's not to say he wouldn't be the required standard.
If Gilroy could talk Con O'Callaghan round that most certainly would be a coup. He's got everything Dublin hurling is lacking.
Quote from: Lar Naparka on October 11, 2017, 01:01:47 PM
Quote from: easytiger95 on October 11, 2017, 12:25:09 PM
Also, his pass for Rock's fist point from play was absolutely sublime. I'm not his biggest fan but the team is stronger with him as an option. He is a good hurler though.
I can accept all of that without a bother but the fact remains that he had played in the final and got a red card for his troubles, the odds are that Mayo would have won that game, unless he was carded inside the last five minutes or do.
Gilroy and Diarmuid are Vins' men and the odds are that they will get along together.
Patrick Durcan was sent off twice this year.
Should he thus be culled from the Mayo panel?
"The fact remains that he had played in the final and got a red card for his troubles, the odds are that Mayo would have won that game, unless he was carded inside the last five minutes or do. "The fact remains that Connolly wasn't sent off and yet again proved himself a matchwinner.
The fact remains that you are claiming something that didn't actually happen as fact.
The fact remains that two other players got themselves sent off in the same match.
Should their services be dispensed with by their respective managers?
Quote from: Lar Naparka on October 11, 2017, 01:01:47 PM
I can accept all of that without a bother but the fact remains that he had played in the final and got a red card for his troubles, the odds are that Mayo would have won that game, unless he was carded inside the last five minutes or do.
Gilroy and Diarmuid are Vins' men and the odds are that they will get along together.
Gilroy and Connolly being club mates and getting on well together, doesn't matter a damm, if Connolly can't control his temper and stay on the pitch. So so what if they get on together? I presume he gets on with Jim Gavin too. Gavin wouldn't have made him his vice captain, or defended him so strongly earlier in the summer, if they didn't get on well. It hasn't made a damm bit of difference to Connolly's horrendous disciplinary record over the past few years. Why would it be any different under Gilroy?
if Dublin get their top players onto the squad they'll be a match for anyone
No doubt Connolly is a super footballer -indeed one of the best in the country. For hurling though, I've seen him at some club games this year and he doesn't stand out as definitely inter-county standard. His fitness levels & strength give him a big advantage alright but I fear he would be badly exposed at inter-county level against the better teams.
In saying that -if he got a full season exclusive to the hurlers he may well be a big addition, but it's a big risk as I feel he has a lot more value to the footballers
He isn't committing, said he was to old at 30 to be switching over to County Hurling.
Gilroy sent Connolly home from a training camp in La Manga when he was football manager, according to Saturdays Indo. They might be club mates but hardly best buddies .
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on October 14, 2017, 08:45:21 PM
if Dublin get their top players onto the squad they'll be a match for anyone in the league
Fixed that for you there.
Still loads of work to be done with Dublin hurlers before they'll be considered serious championship contenders.
Still behind the likes of Limerick, Clare and Wexford IMO.
Quote from: johnneycool on October 18, 2017, 11:27:45 AM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on October 14, 2017, 08:45:21 PM
if Dublin get their top players onto the squad they'll be a match for anyone in the league
Fixed that for you there.
Still loads of work to be done with Dublin hurlers before they'll be considered serious championship contenders.
Still behind the likes of Limerick, Clare and Wexford IMO.
Wexford? I know they have a couple of top hurlers but Dublin playing in a higher league has to count for something? That said, Galway have done alright! :o
Quote from: Lar Naparka on October 11, 2017, 01:01:47 PM
Quote from: easytiger95 on October 11, 2017, 12:25:09 PM
Also, his pass for Rock's fist point from play was absolutely sublime. I'm not his biggest fan but the team is stronger with him as an option. He is a good hurler though.
I can accept all of that without a bother but the fact remains that he had played in the final and got a red card for his troubles, the odds are that Mayo would have won that game, unless he was carded inside the last five minutes or do.
Gilroy and Diarmuid are Vins' men and the odds are that they will get along together.
but the fact
(knowledge or information based on real occurences) remains that he had played in the final
(I'm assuming that you mean "had he" played in the final, and is a hypothetical situation i.e. it didn't happen) and got a red card for his troubles
(a hypothetical situation occurring within a hypothetical situation i.e. something that might happen in a situation that definitely didn't happen), the odds are that Mayo would have won that game
(you're now calculating the odds of a hypothetical event occurring in a match that didn't actually happen i.e Dermo didn't play against Mayo, so he definitely didn't get sent off, in fact, he didn't start)
Get yourself down to Paddy Power, they'd love to see you, and they'll definitely give you odds.
Played Tipp in a challenge today lost by 18 i think, ment to be alot of dirty strokes, Niall o meara taken to hospital coughing up blood. The then went down to cork and most of the team that played tipp also played against cork, lost by 13. Mad stuff, dont see any sense in it or whats to gain from playing two in the one day
Playing Antrim tomorrow?
Quote from: easytiger95 on October 18, 2017, 02:01:14 PM
Quote from: Lar Naparka on October 11, 2017, 01:01:47 PM
Quote from: easytiger95 on October 11, 2017, 12:25:09 PM
Also, his pass for Rock's fist point from play was absolutely sublime. I'm not his biggest fan but the team is stronger with him as an option. He is a good hurler though.
I can accept all of that without a bother but the fact remains that he had played in the final and got a red card for his troubles, the odds are that Mayo would have won that game, unless he was carded inside the last five minutes or do.
Gilroy and Diarmuid are Vins' men and the odds are that they will get along together.
but the fact (knowledge or information based on real occurences) remains that he had played in the final (I'm assuming that you mean "had he" played in the final, and is a hypothetical situation i.e. it didn't happen) and got a red card for his troubles (a hypothetical situation occurring within a hypothetical situation i.e. something that might happen in a situation that definitely didn't happen), the odds are that Mayo would have won that game (you're now calculating the odds of a hypothetical event occurring in a match that didn't actually happen i.e Dermo didn't play against Mayo, so he definitely didn't get sent off, in fact, he didn't start)
Get yourself down to Paddy Power, they'd love to see you, and they'll definitely give you odds.
Only spotted this now. Maybe I phrased what I was saying awkwardly but you are missing my point
I think Gavin was pissed off when Connolly got red against Carlow and the fact that he failed to play him subsequent to that, after his term of suspension was over, points to this. Diarmuid cantering about in a tee shirt of sorts during the AI final would seem to indicate that he wasn't too happy with his enforced absence either.
However, if I were Gavin, I'd be wary of playing him unless he was absolutely needed. He's a supremely talented player without a doubt but he's also well-known for his hair trigger temper. I'd imagine that if Paddy Power had offered odds on a Dublin player getting red carded in the final, Diarmuid would be shortlisted.
If he had had started against Keegan, his self-control would be pushed to its limits as Kegan is a superb practitioner of the dark arts, same as Connolly himself is. Now, there is little point in having one of the two most accomplished players in the country on your team if he loses the rag and gets red-carded.
I believe that Gavin has realised that Connolly will always be a high-risk player and if he feels he can get by without him, he certainly will.
Quote from: tippabu on January 06, 2018, 10:23:37 PM
Played Tipp in a challenge today lost by 18 i think, ment to be alot of dirty strokes, Niall o meara taken to hospital coughing up blood. The then went down to cork and most of the team that played tipp also played against cork, lost by 13. Mad stuff, dont see any sense in it or whats to gain from playing two in the one day
Maybe laying down a marker with the physical stuff that not going to be pushed about this year.
Need to lay down a few markers on the scoreboard as well though.
So Keaney back on the panel and now Tom Ryan from Limerick has transferred to Cuala/Dublin - interesting summer beckons anyway
Quote from: Declan on January 11, 2018, 10:57:43 AM
So Keaney back on the panel and now Tom Ryan from Limerick has transferred to Cuala/Dublin - interesting summer beckons anyway
Keaney still playing club hurling? BB? Great GAA athlete !
QuoteKeaney still playing club hurling? BB?
Yep
Quote from: Declan on January 11, 2018, 10:57:43 AM
So Keaney back on the panel and now Tom Ryan from Limerick has transferred to Cuala/Dublin - interesting summer beckons anyway
Absolutely. Gilroy seems intent on doing a good job. Danny Sutcliffe back, Paul Winters in good form. It looks like a united camp who have a good panel of players. A lot of these lads have had underage success and have played to all ireland finals,leinster finals and League finals. Not necessarily winning out but have the experience of meeting the best along the way
Quote from: Avondhu star on January 17, 2018, 02:18:42 PM
Quote from: Declan on January 11, 2018, 10:57:43 AM
So Keaney back on the panel and now Tom Ryan from Limerick has transferred to Cuala/Dublin - interesting summer beckons anyway
Absolutely. Gilroy seems intent on doing a good job. Danny Sutcliffe back, Paul Winters in good form. It looks like a united camp who have a good panel of players. A lot of these lads have had underage success and have played to all ireland finals,leinster finals and League finals. Not necessarily winning out but have the experience of meeting the best along the way
Still need that marquee forward in O'Callaghan to push on to the next level all the same.
Tipp, Galway and Waterford are slightly ahead of the chasing pack. Kilkenny are an unknown at this stage.
Seen them twice in a week
First v Antrim no contest really
Then v Wexford last Sunday
Very impressed with them, had Wexford on the rack to winters got red
Their tackling and aggression when they don't have the ball is fantastic
There number 11 ( Whitley) was very good and Winters
Solid full back line and very pacy corner forwards
Young Dillon came on in second half and looks promising
There no6 is to slow but Imm sure Rushe will slot in there when he comes back
Sutcliffe of the pace but showed signs of old
I think they could run deep this summer and challenge for trophies next year no problem
Big crowd there so things are looking up for Dublin hurling
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on January 17, 2018, 05:33:32 PM
Seen them twice in a week
First v Antrim no contest really
Then v Wexford last Sunday
Very impressed with them, had Wexford on the rack to winters got red
Their tackling and aggression when they don't have the ball is fantastic
There number 11 ( Whitley) was very good and Winters
Solid full back line and very pacy corner forwards
Young Dillon came on in second half and looks promising
There no6 is to slow but Imm sure Rushe will slot in there when he comes back
Sutcliffe of the pace but showed signs of old
I think they could run deep this summer and challenge for trophies next year no problem
Big crowd there so things are looking up for Dublin hurling
How many of the Cuala lads will fit in to that panel?
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 17, 2018, 08:25:33 PM
Quote from: north_antrim_hound on January 17, 2018, 05:33:32 PM
Seen them twice in a week
First v Antrim no contest really
Then v Wexford last Sunday
Very impressed with them, had Wexford on the rack to winters got red
Their tackling and aggression when they don't have the ball is fantastic
There number 11 ( Whitley) was very good and Winters
Solid full back line and very pacy corner forwards
Young Dillon came on in second half and looks promising
There no6 is to slow but Imm sure Rushe will slot in there when he comes back
Sutcliffe of the pace but showed signs of old
I think they could run deep this summer and challenge for trophies next year no problem
Big crowd there so things are looking up for Dublin hurling
How many of the Cuala lads will fit in to that panel?
I would say Cronin and that midfielder that put Tony kelly in his pocket last March
What age is treacy now
O Callaghan is kicking the big ball unfortunately, some hurler
Gilroy will make them competitive and it will be interesting to see where it goes from here.
Always like Dublin hurling, always playing in the shadow of their footballers, even in the days that their footballers were being dominated by the likes of Meath and so they plugged away, and for years I'd be down at Parnell park watching Antrim beat Dublin and now its chalk and cheese!
Dublin have built up a rep for hard physical hurling, now if they manage to get a few forwards that will open up teams they could (and should based on their money and competitive club teams) have an impact on the tradional teams of hurling
Pete Kelly hanging up the intercounty boots;
https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/hurling/dublin-defender-peter-kelly-announces-retirement-1.3470115 (https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/hurling/dublin-defender-peter-kelly-announces-retirement-1.3470115)
Evidently can't get himself back in peak form and fitness, was some player and gave Seamus Callinan as good as working as any the day the Dubs played Tipp in a qualifier game in Thurles when all else around him was taking in water.
Quote from: johnnycool on April 24, 2018, 03:21:46 PM
Pete Kelly hanging up the intercounty boots;
https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/hurling/dublin-defender-peter-kelly-announces-retirement-1.3470115 (https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/hurling/dublin-defender-peter-kelly-announces-retirement-1.3470115)
Evidently can't get himself back in peak form and fitness, was some player and gave Seamus Callinan as good as working as any the day the Dubs played Tipp in a qualifier game in Thurles when all else around him was taking in water.
The best man I ever saw to handle Callanan was the Westmeath Full Back. He did it twice.
Quote from: AZOffaly on April 24, 2018, 04:56:17 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on April 24, 2018, 03:21:46 PM
Pete Kelly hanging up the intercounty boots;
https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/hurling/dublin-defender-peter-kelly-announces-retirement-1.3470115 (https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/hurling/dublin-defender-peter-kelly-announces-retirement-1.3470115)
Evidently can't get himself back in peak form and fitness, was some player and gave Seamus Callinan as good as working as any the day the Dubs played Tipp in a qualifier game in Thurles when all else around him was taking in water.
The best man I ever saw to handle Callanan was the Westmeath Full Back. He did it twice.
Tommy Doyle of Lough Lene Gaels.
Quote from: LooseCannon on April 24, 2018, 05:28:48 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on April 24, 2018, 04:56:17 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on April 24, 2018, 03:21:46 PM
Pete Kelly hanging up the intercounty boots;
https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/hurling/dublin-defender-peter-kelly-announces-retirement-1.3470115 (https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/hurling/dublin-defender-peter-kelly-announces-retirement-1.3470115)
Evidently can't get himself back in peak form and fitness, was some player and gave Seamus Callinan as good as working as any the day the Dubs played Tipp in a qualifier game in Thurles when all else around him was taking in water.
The best man I ever saw to handle Callanan was the Westmeath Full Back. He did it twice.
Tommy Doyle of Lough Lene Gaels.
Thats the buck.
Quote from: AZOffaly on April 24, 2018, 04:56:17 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on April 24, 2018, 03:21:46 PM
Pete Kelly hanging up the intercounty boots;
https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/hurling/dublin-defender-peter-kelly-announces-retirement-1.3470115 (https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/hurling/dublin-defender-peter-kelly-announces-retirement-1.3470115)
Evidently can't get himself back in peak form and fitness, was some player and gave Seamus Callinan as good as working as any the day the Dubs played Tipp in a qualifier game in Thurles when all else around him was taking in water.
The best man I ever saw to handle Callanan was the Westmeath Full Back. He did it twice.
And yet they are down a level for championship hurling