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#556
GAA Discussion / Re: Retirements
January 04, 2021, 11:23:39 AM
Was always a great fan of the 'old' Mayo guard. Donie Vaughan certainly was one of those.

Hopefully history remembers him for the great player he was. Something about those Mayo lads, that spirit they had after all the set backs is special.
#557
General discussion / Re: Premier League 20/21
January 04, 2021, 10:48:11 AM
Beat by another overrated manager (on this board) well yesterday in fairness.
#558
Tyrone / Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
January 04, 2021, 10:46:40 AM
Niall Morgan doesn't operate in midfield for Edendork, I don't know where that has come from really. Maybe working on something tactical.

He would be playing a free sweeping role for them. Excellent kick passer obviously and at county level. But with the top teams operating now on a full pressing game really, is it a goer? Maybe just something they might think about chasing a game - pushing him outfield onto the last man or to free an outfield player.
#559
General discussion / Re: The vaccine rollout
January 04, 2021, 10:05:20 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 03, 2021, 02:18:16 PM
Quote from: GetOverTheBar on January 03, 2021, 01:24:01 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 02, 2021, 12:30:53 AM
Nice bitta fat shaming on public internet!

Some lovely people

To be honest, if people have constantly ignored the public health warnings regarding their health and weight (very much including smoking). The chickens were always going to come home to roost.

Covid is ruthlessly exposing weakness in the body. It's not about fat shaming, it's about taking your personal health seriously after this. Still to my mind Covid is destroying the elderly population that were mass smokers.

Collectively yes, everyone needs to take a serious look at how they are looking after their bodies.

By the same token there were plenty of 'fat' people that finished across the triathlon marathon lines before skinny people... I've personally seen at these events and thought this guy will have a heart attack before getting out of the water, zooming past me on their bike early on is very disheartening!

So while there are a lot of people out there overweight, I'll hold judgment on a person's fitness until I know personally what his health choices are.

So naming and claiming without knowing is what I was calling out.

Since lockdown and gyms have closed my physical fitness has dropped considerably, dodgy knee lately hasn't helped but, I can see how quickly your body can lose fitness and tone.

Of course, there are some fellas just carry a bit of weight - doesn't mean they are lesser athletes. Like my old hero, Rory Woods  ;)

My point was aimed more at smoking to be honest. Winds me up, seeing these ones in shops with the masks on then them out the front about 2 steps and the mask to the side and cigarette in. It's baffling. What's the point?

When your paying for these packets and on the side it says "smoking causes death" or whatever that blurb is. What do you expect? Something perverse that we've banned any kind of health facility being open, but some man can stroll in and pick up a pack of those things in the middle of this thing to me.



#560
General discussion / Re: The vaccine rollout
January 03, 2021, 01:24:01 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 02, 2021, 12:30:53 AM
Nice bitta fat shaming on public internet!

Some lovely people

To be honest, if people have constantly ignored the public health warnings regarding their health and weight (very much including smoking). The chickens were always going to come home to roost.

Covid is ruthlessly exposing weakness in the body. It's not about fat shaming, it's about taking your personal health seriously after this. Still to my mind Covid is destroying the elderly population that were mass smokers.
#561
General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus
January 02, 2021, 09:32:36 AM
On legal action, just something that has come to me own door in the recent week.

Had a relative in a care home, died recently. The death was put down as Covid. The man had like 46 straight weeks with no Covid, including the week he died (basically whenever they started the testing). He was just old. That's life. The immediate family are furious. They are threatening legal action and have been told there is a mass of these type of cases attempting to hit the system.

What did we label elderly death pre covid on these certs?
#562
General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus
January 02, 2021, 09:05:14 AM
Quote from: RadioGAAGAA on January 02, 2021, 08:07:16 AM
Quote from: armaghniac on January 01, 2021, 05:38:42 PM
In fairness to the British (not my usual disposition) they have one of the best systems for this type of monitoring. However, the problem is that those who advocated running the health service flat out left no room for anything, like a new variant, to go wrong.

The first detection of this new variant was September, it didn't go from one case in September into underground hiding then explode into hundreds of thousands over night in December.

So what was the detection system doing? Or was it ignored by the politicians? If so, I'd expect evidence to that end to come out in the wash.

[I'd also like to see prosecution of anyone involved in brushing over it with criminal negligence.]

More chance of Tony Blair facing retrospective action for his part in the war in Iraq.
#563
General discussion / Re: The vaccine rollout
December 31, 2020, 05:35:31 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on December 31, 2020, 12:35:14 PM
Quote from: GetOverTheBar on December 31, 2020, 09:36:30 AM
Quote from: lenny on December 31, 2020, 09:20:17 AM
Quote from: GetOverTheBar on December 30, 2020, 10:53:20 PM
Quote from: delgany on December 30, 2020, 10:23:37 PM
Quote from: GetOverTheBar on December 30, 2020, 10:21:46 PM
I think you'll be surprised at the amount of people, including the elderly have no interest in getting it.

Dead on ..... they prefer to take their chances with a fatal disease.

If you want to get sarky, deadly for approximately 2%.

It's not just the deaths. Lots of people have been left as invalids or with life changing conditions as a result of COVID. Anyone refusing the vaccine is extremely foolish and reckless with their own health and the health of their close contacts.

Fair enough point, not really going to argue it. I'm not an anti Vaxxer or believe there is anything untoward in the jab, just presented my real life findings as opposed to anything I personally may believe.

But I can tell you this board does not reflect real life opinion I've come across from a variety of walks of life. The majority are anti lockdown and fairly uncommittal on the vaccine "I wouldn't really be needing it" was one I heard from someone in their 60s believe it or not. You have to respect that every individual reserves the right to take or not take a vaccine, I wouldn't be quick to label them foolish or reckless.
Spain are considering registering the unvaccinated.These details could be shared with other countries.

I'd be of the opinion that if the vaccine was made available and you refused you should be put up the yard if you subsequently required hospital treatment. Also, the vaccine isn't just about preventing deaths in the elderly, there is an economic benefit too as people won't have to take time off work in the event of being symptomatic. I honestly don't see a downside to it. An expert (a proper one - not a chemical engineer) said that if most people take the jab which will reduce symptoms it therefore reduces the prevalence of the virus and therefore is more likely to die out.If they don't on the basis that they believe they don't need it, not an unfair assessment, the prevalence remains and therefore the risk of further mutation not covered by the vaccines. People need to stop thinking about their own selfish needs and think of the big picture.

For talk sake......and if there turns out to be some side effect from the vaccine in X years?
#564
Quote from: sid waddell on December 30, 2020, 10:46:38 PM
Quote from: laoislad on December 30, 2020, 10:10:35 PM
The reaction to the shooting of this fella George Nkencho.
f**k me pink, he wasn't shot because he was black ffs. He was shot because he lunged at a Guard with a knife and after beating up a supermarket employee beforehand.
From the video it looked like he was shot in the back

Serious questions to be asked

It's really weird how a lot of people on the internet are rushing to justify it without knowing all the facts

The ERU aren't called for the craic.

He threatened the public, twice in one day with a knife (one with a facial injury).

Not hard to imagine where the probabilities of what happened next was likely to happen. The ERU won't have been briefed this was a guy not right in the head prior. They cannot shoot their weapon unless under threat or a series of pre existing boxes have been ticked. Colour is not one of those.

#565
Tyrone / Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
December 31, 2020, 09:40:06 AM
Quote from: Angelo on December 31, 2020, 01:56:15 AM
How many senior club championship games has Canavan started?

Not a whole pile actually, I can think of one he came off the bench v Coalisland in Carrickmore two years ago if my memory is on it.

That might be it, he didn't play any senior championship this year either with the wrist injury?
#566
General discussion / Re: The vaccine rollout
December 31, 2020, 09:36:30 AM
Quote from: lenny on December 31, 2020, 09:20:17 AM
Quote from: GetOverTheBar on December 30, 2020, 10:53:20 PM
Quote from: delgany on December 30, 2020, 10:23:37 PM
Quote from: GetOverTheBar on December 30, 2020, 10:21:46 PM
I think you'll be surprised at the amount of people, including the elderly have no interest in getting it.

Dead on ..... they prefer to take their chances with a fatal disease.

If you want to get sarky, deadly for approximately 2%.

It's not just the deaths. Lots of people have been left as invalids or with life changing conditions as a result of COVID. Anyone refusing the vaccine is extremely foolish and reckless with their own health and the health of their close contacts.

Fair enough point, not really going to argue it. I'm not an anti Vaxxer or believe there is anything untoward in the jab, just presented my real life findings as opposed to anything I personally may believe.

But I can tell you this board does not reflect real life opinion I've come across from a variety of walks of life. The majority are anti lockdown and fairly uncommittal on the vaccine "I wouldn't really be needing it" was one I heard from someone in their 60s believe it or not. You have to respect that every individual reserves the right to take or not take a vaccine, I wouldn't be quick to label them foolish or reckless.
#567
General discussion / Re: Premier League 20/21
December 30, 2020, 10:55:25 PM
I doubt City were at anything sneaky here Covid related. Guardiola's mother died from it remember. You would need to be dead inside to use it to a sporting advantage after that.
#568
General discussion / Re: The vaccine rollout
December 30, 2020, 10:53:20 PM
Quote from: delgany on December 30, 2020, 10:23:37 PM
Quote from: GetOverTheBar on December 30, 2020, 10:21:46 PM
I think you'll be surprised at the amount of people, including the elderly have no interest in getting it.

Dead on ..... they prefer to take their chances with a fatal disease.

If you want to get sarky, deadly for approximately 2%.
#569
General discussion / Re: The vaccine rollout
December 30, 2020, 10:21:46 PM
I think you'll be surprised at the amount of people, including the elderly have no interest in getting it.
#570
General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus
December 30, 2020, 05:04:12 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on December 30, 2020, 04:39:20 PM
Quote from: rodney trotter on December 30, 2020, 02:23:57 PM
NI with another high record, 2,143 cases
Equivalent of nearly 6,000 cases in the 26.
We'd be having a Melbourne type lock up .....

We are. Your time will come.

And those figures released today also are not just one day.....