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It might put an end to the rioting in NI

Behave.

They can't do another no relegation league surely.

It's just not the same coming into this thread and not seeing a mad back and forth 3 more pages from the last time you read it

Getting close to 1 million doses given out in the north now. Serious work.

They fail at pretty much everything else. But they have nailed the vaccine roll out.

No doubt the person responsible and their team we probably don't even know their names. But we should, instead of these other clowns

[there's no argument for it not to. Pubs, restaurants etc will follow guidelines. Can't see a pub vaccine coming in. That's the rhetoric of the deranged, and very vocal minority ring wing, anti-vaxx etc.]

Interesting story for those who don't want to get the vaccine. While it doesn't apply to covid it shows there is a precedent there if some countries want to make covid vaccinations mandatory. Personally I don't think pubs/restaurants etc should require covid passports, but if' you're travelling abroad it should be mandatory due to the different mutations.   

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-56669397

Yeah there's probably an argument for vaccine passports to go on holidays, but domestically it is a ridiculous idea.

Vaccine passport for travel will happen, there's no argument for it not to. Pubs, restaurants etc will follow guidelines. Can't see a pub vaccine coming in. That's the rhetoric of the deranged, and very vocal minority ring wing, anti-vaxx etc. Yet they'll shout down the vast majority of folk who trust in the science and just want to do their bit to get things back to normal, calling them zealots, fascists etc. A more transparent playbook you'll not see.
Science they told us repeatedly has failed us. Science then plays a blinder and they're scrapping around the Internet for anything to support their warped logic. 2 of the GP Anne McCloskeys supporters, I seen them queued for their vaccines ffs!
Hard to admit you've been wrong when you've talking out your hole for 13 months.

I'm going to get my vaccination. I've no problem saying I hope others my age get it (20-29).

But I have a serious issue with domestic vaccine passports.

When people are vaccinated and we are told via leaks 80% is the magic number, which we will get to....What difference does it make who in the pub hasn't the vaccine when you have?

The vaccine clearly shows it helps reduce spread, it stops, I believe 100% of serious illness regarding Covid 19 (open to correction). Fantastic news, great to hear this kinda stuff. It's what we needed. Covid 19 is going to very soon, have nowhere to go, no weak to attack, no prey to pick.

We have been locked down long enough. Things god bless are getting better. But I fail to understand why there is this now insane demand for passports and rules and regulations. Christ, have we not had enough rules this last year? The vaccine is being consumed by basically all, we do not need these coercion tactics to enforce uptake.

The way to get people to take the vaccinations is via eductation, not their exclusion from society.

Some people are losing the run of themselves here to be honest.

Hope whoever is reporting these lads gets an awful hiding.

😂 Harsh

[if you're likely to infect and kill people!]

There is lots of debate about domestic vaccine passports & the rights and wrongs of it.

I can see how some people say it will infringe on their rights and being able to live a normalish life and thats a fair point which will be heavily scrutinised.

Nah, they can fuk off with their rights.

The sensible have a right not to be in danger of infection from mutated variants that developed in unvaccinated idiots.

So people should not have the right to choose whether or not to take something that has been shown to cause blood clotting?

This is why zealots are dangerous.

People can choose to do what they like but to say that everyone else has to be OK with it is wrong!

Don't get vaccinated fair enough but don't expect to be getting on a plane/eating in a restaurant/drinking in a bar if you're likely to infect and kill people!

Jesus wept.

That would be fair enough in that respect, I meant it regarding a domestic, kind of hard system where those who don't take the vaccine are excluded from society. That is a dark, dark path to even think about going down.

Are we seriously suggesting you must prove you have a vaccination to enter a Bar? Do we have vaccinated only Bars? Do we have run riot no rules Bars? It's mad.

The dark, dark path is the continued placement of ideology above scientific evidence.

Proper dark ages stuff. But don't expect the cheerleaders to look in a mirror and realise any time soon.

What you are suggesting is mandatory vaccination?

Got my AZ vaccination today there with a local Pharmacy. Interesting that he took the time to tell me it will be uploaded to my GP system / NHS number and will undoubtedly form part of the Passporting system that is coming.

It has to be recorded by the NHS, to see that no-one is being left out, and call people for their second jab etc.

But it is a hell of a long way from merely updating existing NHS attendance records, to rolling out a nationwide Passport scheme - even if the political will for one exists (not certain).

Unless, of course, your Pharmacist has some sort of hotline to No.10 that the rest of us don't know about?

Political will? It's being discussed day & daily. A certainty for International travel and highly likely for sporting events etc.. in the UK in the near future

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-labour-and-snp-withold-support-for-boris-johnsons-confusing-coronavirus-passports-plan-12268408

On top of what would certainly be a Tory rebellion.

It's not so open and closed.

Maybe not as good with his head 

Bale had the pace of a World Class athlete.

Trent does not. Although he's probably a better "player".

[I can assure you if there was a vaccine passport introduced for foreign travel or restaurants etc all of these people saying they wouldnt get it would be in the queue looking it.Lets see how strong their 'beliefs' are then]

How many men here been vaccinated already? Got the first jab a month ago. Sore arm next day, but like the normal flu jab I get each Yr. Don't understand the point of view of anti vacs, as we all got the triple booster when younger for tetanus, polio, etc. If you sick u at the doctors looking antibiotics / medical steroids to improve your health. How's getting this injection 💉 any different.

Got the jab yesterday.
Like you weasel a bit of a sore arm today but nothing else.

I can assure you if there was a vaccine passport introduced for foreign travel or restaurants etc all of these people saying they wouldnt get it would be in the queue looking it.

Lets see how strong their 'beliefs' are then

You realise that is coercing people into taking something they don't want to take?

The rights and wrongs aside, I've said many times I will take the vaccination, I am not anti Vaxx or pushing any agenda but we cannot force people to put something into their bodies they don't want to. It is against everything the free world stands for.

There must be an education and defeat of that mindset by data, science and time.....This notion of passports and mandatory vaccination is very, very dangerous. It's how democracy starts to slip into authoritarianism. I don't think we should be encouraging this type of thing whatsoever.

What would be next for example?

Take the word 'restaurant' out of the text, and it's nothing new. I can't see the introduction of a vaccine passport for anything beyond foreign travel. Have you seen the list of vaccines required when applying for a Green Card? South East Asia, African travel etc demand vaccines. No difference imo with this only its on a wider scale

That would be fair enough in that respect, I meant it regarding a domestic, kind of hard system where those who don't take the vaccine are excluded from society. That is a dark, dark path to even think about going down.

Are we seriously suggesting you must prove you have a vaccination to enter a Bar? Do we have vaccinated only Bars? Do we have run riot no rules Bars? It's mad.

I mean look, if you have the vaccine now at this stage, fair play to you - what odds to you who does or doesn't take it thereafter really? Seems a bit strange considering that the uptake is very high and things are going well.

[I can assure you if there was a vaccine passport introduced for foreign travel or restaurants etc all of these people saying they wouldnt get it would be in the queue looking it.Lets see how strong their 'beliefs' are then]

How many men here been vaccinated already? Got the first jab a month ago. Sore arm next day, but like the normal flu jab I get each Yr. Don't understand the point of view of anti vacs, as we all got the triple booster when younger for tetanus, polio, etc. If you sick u at the doctors looking antibiotics / medical steroids to improve your health. How's getting this injection 💉 any different.

Got the jab yesterday.
Like you weasel a bit of a sore arm today but nothing else.

I can assure you if there was a vaccine passport introduced for foreign travel or restaurants etc all of these people saying they wouldnt get it would be in the queue looking it.

Lets see how strong their 'beliefs' are then

You realise that is coercing people into taking something they don't want to take?

The rights and wrongs aside, I've said many times I will take the vaccination, I am not anti Vaxx or pushing any agenda but we cannot force people to put something into their bodies they don't want to. It is against everything the free world stands for.

There must be an education and defeat of that mindset by data, science and time.....This notion of passports and mandatory vaccination is very, very dangerous. It's how democracy starts to slip into authoritarianism. I don't think we should be encouraging this type of thing whatsoever.

What would be next for example?

No vaccine for me....too young, whilst you elderly prance around enjoying life and breaking the rules.

Terrible!

Was going to post as is....maybe better to point out I'm joking here.

[El Clasico is on Saturday at Real Madrid's new home venue - some park pitch beside a motorway]

Dembele scores a 90th minute winner for Barcelona against Valladolid

Atletico Madrid lost last night

Atletico 66
Barca 65
Scum 63

El Clasico is on Saturday at Real Madrid's new home venue - some park pitch beside a motorway

Poor Jurgen not happy with the park beside the motorway last night either.