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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
« on: Today at 09:20:03 AM »
Back to non starred fixtures this wkend again I see!!

Got that message through last night myself. Not exactly sure what the reason is - maybe to buy some time as with the qualifiers now, there'll not be much club football played for a few months (assuming Tyrone go well)

Was at the game today - Monaghan deserved winners, very impressive especially when Tyrone did sneak level to blow them out of the water in the last 10-15 minutes, showed great patience and if I'm being honest the late goal flattered Tyrone.

Atmosphere wasn't brilliant though or was that just me? Just wasn't what I had expected at all.

Tyrone / Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
« on: May 20, 2018, 08:33:00 PM »
Usually harder to comment overall when you are at the game - maybe you don't see what you would watching television.

Monaghan blew Tyrone away in the last 15 minutes today though for me, is the point of this 'system' Harte goes on about not to bring games to the last 10/15 then win with superior fitness? Very, very damaging loss - and completely deserved win for Monaghan.

For a defensive team, the amount of times Vinny Corey managed to get in behind the defensive line until he eventually got the goal was very strange - and it's not as if he's blessed with blistering speed. Once the goal went in, I thought the game was done - Tyrone never looked like scoring a goal but to be fair did drag themselves back into via points to then seemingly gas out.

Probably Frank Burns was the only Tyrone player to do themselves justice today, McAliskey to be fair to him tried his best in the second half and got himself a few scores. Bar that? Special tip of the cap to Harte for destroying Ronan O'Neill today - he was shite, but no less shite than others - including Meyler who seems intent in trying to make himself some kind of low grade Paul Galvin involved in off the ball nonsense more often than on the ball.

Positives? Plenty of time to come across the correct formula as you'd expect the GAA to work that special kind of magic that keeps the bigger teams apart in qualifiers.

Tyrone / Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
« on: May 18, 2018, 02:01:46 PM »
Perhaps the wrong choice of words - sure a good player, Harte made him a winner though. That's probably the best point.

Tyrone / Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
« on: May 18, 2018, 01:18:00 PM »
I wonder what Harte thinks of Sean now?
I know Sean's dad never liked Mickey since he told him he shouldn't go to Aus.

Noel can be some craic but has to keep a tight rein on what he's allowed to ask I believe.

He's just announced an autobiography on twitter!!

Seriously lost a lot of respect for Cavanagh over the past few years. This tops the lot though. I'm no lover of Harte but he's literally trying to raise his profile off the back of the man (who if you like him or not, now) made him the player he was.

Tyrone / Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
« on: May 17, 2018, 01:47:14 PM »
Sean Cavanagh is obviously doing the whole, lets burst onto the punditry scene with some attention seeking views.

Haven't really been a fan of some of his antics over the years to be honest, but it's bound to be extremely gauling for Mickey Harte to hear him say this on the eve of the Championship.

Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
« on: May 16, 2018, 01:46:26 PM »
Who will organise this league. There is underage girls and boys matches/training nearly every night on club pitches so getting at  evening that would suit all wouldn't happen. It would turn into a farce after a bit. Between injurys, clubs being open to injury claims as it wouldn't be sanctioned by the county board. Div 3 reserve football is as close as your get to something like that. Mental what some people can dream up off. Daydreamers half of Yous

It's a great idea to be fair, but in reality it would hit problems. Because it's recreational and there isn't as much onus on players, you'd find it hard to have the numbers week in and week out. There'd be games cancelled due to lack of numbers every week as people just wouldn't invest as heavily in it. Which is a pity as it would be great for the pool of players who are either past it or not prepared to put in the effort of training 4 days a week.

Around Dungannon about 20 or so years ago there used to be a pub league which was basically a recreational league with teams from the various pubs taking part. Was great craic.

I've seen pictures of my da in these games actually.

Then there was the league cup a few years ago too, was a good bit of craic - wasn't taken 'as serious' as league or championship but was great craic and an opportunity for lads to get playing proper senior football who were on the fringes or needed that bit of belief.

Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
« on: May 15, 2018, 03:09:32 PM »
Errigal have the biggest pick of any club in Tyrone?

I'd say Omagh would run them close. Coalisland at stages can have up to 50 men out from what they tell me. Carrickmore used to be in this debate but men at that club could tell you better - think there was a football/hurling split some years ago caused a bit of bother. Don't think anyone else really gets close? Maybe Dromore?

Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
« on: May 15, 2018, 01:39:09 PM »
Don't really see what the fuss is if EC are fluid with their squads - Lets be honest since the amalgamation it's a super club anyway, when you see other clubs struggle to field a senior and reserve team in and around that area - to see them with 4 squads is a bit of a joke.

That being said, I do wonder what Errigal are producing when I see Davy Harte tog out in full forward for them and Daisy playing for their Senior Reserves.

Tyrone / Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
« on: May 14, 2018, 08:51:17 PM »
I heard Darragh Canavan isn't playing for the u20's this year and will be concentrating on club minor football instead, can anyone confirm this? If true this is arguably a smart move given he still has two years left at that grade. It will be interesting to see if he plays any part for Errigal seniors as the year progresses. Remember last year they used Peter Og McCartan (the same age then as Canavan is this year) as an impact sub throughout the championship to good effect.

He's playing for them as is.

Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
« on: May 14, 2018, 10:57:36 AM »
Anyone can beat anyone in Tyrone Division One. What a great start to the league, I think really every team is looking forward to the Championship draw now with no fear of anyone.

Tyrone / Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
« on: May 08, 2018, 09:34:08 PM »
From my sources I heard Colm will be fit to start

Hopefully. Regardless of the Monaghan game, I think as the year progresses this last couple of months off will really benefit Colm. Only for picking up the injury he would have been on the go non-stop since the start of last year with club and county and i think it would have been very difficult for him to maintain his high standards throughout the summer. So hopefully he will come back refreshed whenever he is ready

Do you remember when half the people on here thought big Colm was sh1te - that was some craic!

Who changed opinion? There was a seperate position created for him. The reason people thought he was sh1te was because he was sh1te in a conventional football set-up. And i say sh1te in regards to country standard as I always looked at him as a very good club footballer, just a bit below county standard. But to his and Sean's fortune, football changed, he became the Beckenbauer supreme of GAA (actually tied with Cian O'Sullivan) and now he's an all-star. Better to be born lucky than good.

Lets not say things we can't back up. They are not even in the same league as footballers or even positionally. O'Sullivan is so many more levels ahead.

Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
« on: May 08, 2018, 11:52:50 AM »
Fianna job would be attractive to any manager,problem may be for them most managers worth their salt may they be Coalisland club men or outside managers will most probably have jobs at this time of the year....

Audi Kelly?  He missed on the rumoured Slaughtneil appointment

Works in Coalisland too, has to be a massive favourite. Coalisland play Edendork this weekend too.....remains to be seen if Audi will in the end, manage against Edendork.

Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
« on: May 07, 2018, 09:02:14 PM »
There will be a red sky tonight after the spilled blood of revolution today in east Tyrone.....

Go on spill there. Few big east Tyrone clubs not going well.

The Coalisland Spring

Tyrone / Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
« on: May 03, 2018, 03:51:41 PM »
I was disappointed to see Mugsy in the papers trying to stir up controversy in return for a few quid from Paddy power. I think he was particularly harsh on Morgan and don't think that a fellow Tyrone man, and former team mate of Nialls, should be sticking the knife in like this. He said that Brennan would kick the longer range frees blindfolded, if Mugsy was watching Tyrone in the league this year at all he would know this is not the case. Lee racked up a big tally from frees throughout the league but it has to be said that a number of these were handy ones from close in and that he was guilty of missing a few longer range ones. It's also very easy to say that Lee should hit, and would score, all of our frees but the fact remains that he hasn't been tested in the white heat of a championship match that is in the balance so the jury should remain out until this happens.

Mugsy also claimed that our style is too defensive and that he would like to see Lee, Bradley, Skeet and Harte all playing closer to goal. Again, has he not been watching Tyrone this year? This was exactly the forward line v Donegal and Mayo in our good run towards the end of the League and Niall Sludden was also playing further up the pitch.

I didnt get reading it but did Mugsy state that none of the Tyrone forwards would have got on any of the Tyrone teams that won All Ireland.
Agree of Disagree? IMO its hard to disagree, Certainly not in the first 2 all Ireland wins anyway!!
Maybe Sludden would be the only one who would come close to it and even at that you'd have to throw him in at wing forward cause B.McGuigan certainly wouldnt be replaced

He's absolutely correct. None of them would have got onto the teams of the 00s. That in itself is no insult, just reality.

Are we not classing Matty Donnelly or Petey Harte as forwards? Because either of them would have made those teams. In case you have all forgotten, Ryan Mellon, Marty Penrose and Tommy McGuigan all started in All Ireland finals in the 00s.

Neither are forwards, but if you want to class as a forward - Peter Harte, maybe would be knocking the door. Donnelly doesn't get a snff.

For me Harte is a wonderful player, but a Dooher/Cavlin/McGuigan/O'Neill/Mulligan/Canavan/Penrose he is not.

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