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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
« on: February 19, 2018, 05:28:17 PM »
You can say what you want about Ronan O'Neill but he has scored some vital goals in his career for both club and county.  Conditioning wise he was probably in better nick last year but its early days as far as championship is concerned. O'Neill still possesses a ruthless streak in front of goal when the opportunity presents itself.

Could any of the contributors to this site name a player or players playing club football in Tyrone that are capable of making the grade on this present County squad.  I can only think of one - Johnny Munroe (who opted out for personal Carmen reasons).

It's less a case of him being out of shape, Tyrone won't be judged on the league - they are past that stage of their development (even though I did state earlier they could be relegated). O'Neill and Tyrone themselves will be well ready for the real action in May.

I'd say O'Neill weight 'gain' is entirely thought out with the intention of losing whatever excess there might be/appear to be in the next 4-6 weeks.

Still all very early in 2018 as yet. Nobody has played their hand yet.

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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
« on: February 19, 2018, 10:51:42 AM »
In fairness I expected Donegal to beat Tyrone in the McKenna Cup final, I've been impressed with them - especially the game against Kerry which was on TG4 and they played majority of game with 14 men.

Tyrone will have learned nothing with a win, on this occasion perhaps this was a 'positive' loss, assuming lessons are/were learned. The bigger test is by far Saturday night. If Tyrone lose to Monaghan (who they seem to have a hex over admittedly) there is a fair chance they'll be relegated - worth going to this one, going to be championship intensity especially with Monaghan's excellent win yesterday over Kerry, they'll smell blood.

Mickey Harte maybe was holding back some of his men v Donegal as he knows what a challenge this Saturday night will be.

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General discussion / Re: Ireland's most Loved person
« on: February 19, 2018, 10:44:32 AM »
Dermot Morgan worth a mention in something like this surely.

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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
« on: February 16, 2018, 10:05:49 AM »
"Sean Cavanagh had no bother kicking these scores for the Moy in the last few weeks, why did he not step up, as captain in the past few years?"


He did.....

Did he really? I'm not talking about the handy 30 yard ones out. Anyway, he's gone and the point remains. If the 14 best outfield players that are on any pitch representing Tyrone cannot pull a reliable kicker, I fail to see how things will improve. Sending a keeper up to take is purely playing percentage football.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Laochra Gael
« on: February 15, 2018, 03:16:46 PM »
Who is Aisling Thompson, I've never heard of her.

Give her a google, powerful stuff and promises to be a great story.

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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
« on: February 15, 2018, 02:30:37 PM »
Sorry if this point annoys some people and I know I've brought it up before but is 2018 the year we once and for all sort out our free taking PROBLEM and yes in my eyes it is a PROBLEM.

Is it not fair to say that most of the top teams have all got quality free takers in that they score most of the frees that they attempt and know their limits.
Yes Dean Rock is at a higher level but why is that? Is it just cos he comes from good stock or is it as simply as practice practice practice.

Mayo have Cillian O'Connor, Kerry have O'Donoghue and Geaney, Donegal have Murphy and McBrearty, even Monaghan have a far better free taker than us.
The reason I bring it up AGAIN is that as far as I see nothing is being done to improve the situation and whilst there is all this talk of a change to our style of play if you think back to the matches we've lost over the last few years, more often that not it's because we're not taking our chances.
Its got to the stage with me now that when we win a free I actually expect us to miss it now.

I hope Lee Brennan, Peter Harte and Skeet are the answer but I'd like to see them stop the chopping and changing and just settle on 2 takers. This nonsense of well if I missed the last one then maybe you have a go at this wan is totally undermining any players confidence.
Hopefully have SoN in there will sort out some of that problem but if we do nothing else in 2018 can we at least get some consistency.

I appreciate its hard to judge this time of year with the weather so bad with wind and wet ground but come summer I just think the other team get such a lift when they see us hiding wide after wide especially when Morgan comes up.

It's Mickey Harte's fault he's up there in the first place, he should be nowhere near the kicks. It's different at club level where he bangs them over - his body is warmed up and ready when he's outfield for the club. When your in nets, not to annoy our goalkeepers of the board but essentially you just stand there for the vast majority of the game barking orders. How can you be ready? The run up, you've too much going on in your mind. It's just a waste of time, unless of course you are Stephen Cluxton.

Sean Cavanagh had no bother kicking these scores for the Moy in the last few weeks, why did he not step up, as captain in the past few years?

Morgan is a sacrificial lamb no harm, the 14 lads outfield on any given day are the 14 best that Tyrone have to offer their opposition, if we can't muster a score from free kicks from those guys then that says more about what Tyrone Club Football is producing to be honest.

Agree totally with Fuzzman, until Tyrone sort out the freekick taking, they'll remain a tier two team as the best, Dublin/Mayo and Kerry will know rightly they can get away with tactical fouls in and around the limits of the 45.

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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
« on: February 14, 2018, 09:26:02 AM »
What happened him finance wise last year?

He's a pharmacist, works freelance in Dublin. No work = no money.

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General discussion / Re: The ulster rugby trial
« on: February 13, 2018, 04:03:00 PM »
Witness has now said she 100% saw sex (Jackson) but doesn't think the woman looked "frozen with fear".

Interestingly Olding hands 100% by his sides also as per witness / Frank Greaney coverage.

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General discussion / Re: The ulster rugby trial
« on: February 13, 2018, 02:04:44 PM »
I see Jackson story is he didn't have penetrative sex with the girl and just used his hand - surely this would be easy to prove if the normal procedures where followed when she reported rape in the next few days?

Presumably the argument is, the internal injuries as previously reported and discussed - they are easier caused to a finger/nail than what we all originally thought.

Strange twist today, I had assumed there was no question in Jackson having sexual intercourse....I am told some of the other ladies in the house that night are also up - I think we'll get some more clarity later.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Bernard Brogan - Serious Injury?
« on: February 13, 2018, 10:51:46 AM »
Came to our club a few years ago. Refused point blank to take any money, despite staying for a long time and being a real inspiration to the children. Heís a total legend. Never cynical, no ego, just a really decent, civil fella who is such an incredible role model to any aspiring forwards. Iím confident he will return.

Love to hear stories like this - Unfortunately it seems as though the injury is true.

I wish him the very best in recovery and that he finishes the game at intercounty level on his terms.

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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
« on: February 12, 2018, 12:28:39 PM »
Frustration would probably be a key in both the above transfers.

Whilst it's not exactly in the GAA ethos, I don't really blame anyone for wanting to go to test themselves at the highest club level they can.

I canít agree with the last statement. If thatís the case then the small club wonít survive for much longer if thereís a drain in talent and itís accepted that you can just leave to play at a higher level. I donít know much about the 2 transfers discussed though.

I can't say I agree with it myself to be honest but the small clubs are bleeding slowly to death, unfortunately. What can be done though? The GAA is really sleep walking towards a crisis. Do we hold individuals responsible for moving on? I can't do that to be honest.

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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
« on: February 12, 2018, 11:39:34 AM »
Frustration would probably be a key in both the above transfers.

Whilst it's not exactly in the GAA ethos, I don't really blame anyone for wanting to go to test themselves at the highest club level they can.

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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
« on: February 12, 2018, 11:06:52 AM »
Nice to see Lee Brennan named again, another good test for him this week.

He's been looking really sharp, but lets hope he doesn't end up like young Clifford and Moran in Kerry and getting hurt out of high intensity games every few days with Sigerson and league this last wile

Completely agree - seen enough in these two league games - he can do it at intercounty level. We now need to protect a special talent best we can. See no reason for him to play in McKenna Cup to be honest if he's in any way showing effects to the recent burst of fixtures.

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GAA Discussion / Bernard Brogan - Serious Injury?
« on: February 12, 2018, 11:03:57 AM »
Reports coming through that Bernard has been seriously injured with the dreaded cruciate.

Sincerely hope this injury is A) not true B) this is not the end at intercounty level for a genuine true great of modern times, probably even all time.

Can anyone confirm?

https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/bernard-brogans-season-could-be-over-as-dublin-man-suffers-cruciate-injury-36592823.html

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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
« on: February 09, 2018, 04:41:48 PM »
Nice to see Lee Brennan named again, another good test for him this week.

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