The OFFICIAL Liverpool FC thread - Arne to Slot right in?

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statto

Quote from: johnnycool on July 20, 2023, 04:02:32 PM
Quote from: J70 on July 20, 2023, 02:51:55 PM
Its going to be a lot of upheaval in this Liverpool team initially. Could take a couple of months for everything to gel, so I wouldn't expect a title challenge. But if the remaining recruitment is good, there's no reason why they shouldn't get back into the top 4 and show in the second half of the season that they will be ready to seriously challenge City the following year.

Fair old bit of upheaval to the City midfield as well, it depends on how Arsenal get up and running as they seem to be spending well other than Havertz who I'm not convinced about
Havertz was poor at Chelsea but thy were a shambles and was continually played out of position.  His style of play will suit Arsenal expect to see a much improved version. 

J70

Quote from: johnnycool on July 20, 2023, 04:02:32 PM
Quote from: J70 on July 20, 2023, 02:51:55 PM
Its going to be a lot of upheaval in this Liverpool team initially. Could take a couple of months for everything to gel, so I wouldn't expect a title challenge. But if the remaining recruitment is good, there's no reason why they shouldn't get back into the top 4 and show in the second half of the season that they will be ready to seriously challenge City the following year.

Fair old bit of upheaval to the City midfield as well, it depends on how Arsenal get up and running as they seem to be spending well other than Havertz who I'm not convinced about

Yeah, but you still have that core of DeBruyne, Grealish, Foden, Rodri, even latterly Stones.

Liverpool will have lost Henderson, Fabinho, Ox, Keita and Milner. Only Thiago and young lads like Jones, Elliott and Bajcetic left from last season. Poor Arthur gone too.

johnnycool

Quote from: J70 on July 20, 2023, 07:09:10 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on July 20, 2023, 04:02:32 PM
Quote from: J70 on July 20, 2023, 02:51:55 PM
Its going to be a lot of upheaval in this Liverpool team initially. Could take a couple of months for everything to gel, so I wouldn't expect a title challenge. But if the remaining recruitment is good, there's no reason why they shouldn't get back into the top 4 and show in the second half of the season that they will be ready to seriously challenge City the following year.

Fair old bit of upheaval to the City midfield as well, it depends on how Arsenal get up and running as they seem to be spending well other than Havertz who I'm not convinced about

Yeah, but you still have that core of DeBruyne, Grealish, Foden, Rodri, even latterly Stones.

Liverpool will have lost Henderson, Fabinho, Ox, Keita and Milner. Only Thiago and young lads like Jones, Elliott and Bajcetic left from last season. Poor Arthur gone too.

Those 3 stroked out offered Liverpool nothing in midfield, bit part would be too kind an expression and even Milner who at 40+ (  :D  ) probably was used to get key players a bit of a rest.

MacAllister should hit the ground running all the same.

Hound

Hendo gone for £13 mill seems to be a done deal, expected to be completed this week.

We have bid £35m + £5m addons for Southampton's 19 year old Belgian defensive midfielder Romeo Lavia, but Southampton have turned it down saying their price tag is £50m. Can't say I noticed him at all last season.

You'd normally think that's close enough to get a deal done, but it seems Fabinho's £40m move to Saudi is becoming doubtful and he's to join up with Liverpool's pre season preparations. Apparently a blocker to the move is that Fabinho can't get a guarantee that he can get his two French bulldogs into Saudi! If that falls through I wonder will that scupper our bid for Lavia?

I also read that when Soton bought Lavia from City for 10.5m + 2.5m addons, City have a 20% sell on clause and they have first refusal if Soton sell. No sign so far of City showing interest, but that could change quickly.

Trent has played both pre-season games in midfield, so that positional switch could well be permanent. Not sure we've a good enough right back now though. Bradley has more development to get through. I would like to see Kostas tried there. With Trent and McAllister in midfield, less pressure on the right back to be a creator.

statto

Quote from: Hound on July 26, 2023, 10:43:10 AM
Hendo gone for £13 mill seems to be a done deal, expected to be completed this week.

We have bid £35m + £5m addons for Southampton's 19 year old Belgian defensive midfielder Romeo Lavia, but Southampton have turned it down saying their price tag is £50m. Can't say I noticed him at all last season.

You'd normally think that's close enough to get a deal done, but it seems Fabinho's £40m move to Saudi is becoming doubtful and he's to join up with Liverpool's pre season preparations. Apparently a blocker to the move is that Fabinho can't get a guarantee that he can get his two French bulldogs into Saudi! If that falls through I wonder will that scupper our bid for Lavia?

I also read that when Soton bought Lavia from City for 10.5m + 2.5m addons, City have a 20% sell on clause and they have first refusal if Soton sell. No sign so far of City showing interest, but that could change quickly.

Trent has played both pre-season games in midfield, so that positional switch could well be permanent. Not sure we've a good enough right back now though. Bradley has more development to get through. I would like to see Kostas tried there. With Trent and McAllister in midfield, less pressure on the right back to be a creator.
Don't see Kostas at right back being a runner.  Can't think of too many left footed right backs and he is very one sided.  Castagne at Leicester might be a budget solution in this area and can play on both sides. If Lavia gets done as well would be good to have a fellow countryman in the changing room also.

Armamike

Quote from: Hound on July 26, 2023, 10:43:10 AM
Hendo gone for £13 mill seems to be a done deal, expected to be completed this week.

We have bid £35m + £5m addons for Southampton's 19 year old Belgian defensive midfielder Romeo Lavia, but Southampton have turned it down saying their price tag is £50m. Can't say I noticed him at all last season.

You'd normally think that's close enough to get a deal done, but it seems Fabinho's £40m move to Saudi is becoming doubtful and he's to join up with Liverpool's pre season preparations. Apparently a blocker to the move is that Fabinho can't get a guarantee that he can get his two French bulldogs into Saudi! If that falls through I wonder will that scupper our bid for Lavia?

I also read that when Soton bought Lavia from City for 10.5m + 2.5m addons, City have a 20% sell on clause and they have first refusal if Soton sell. No sign so far of City showing interest, but that could change quickly.

Trent has played both pre-season games in midfield, so that positional switch could well be permanent. Not sure we've a good enough right back now though. Bradley has more development to get through. I would like to see Kostas tried there. With Trent and McAllister in midfield, less pressure on the right back to be a creator.

If Fabinho goes Liverpool would need to bring in 2 more midfielders - an experienced defensive midfielder, a specialist in that role who can slot right in and a younger signing like a Lavia. Wouldn't want to be relying on a 19 year old.
That's just, like your opinion man.

TabClear

Quote from: Armamike on July 26, 2023, 11:51:00 AM
Quote from: Hound on July 26, 2023, 10:43:10 AM
Hendo gone for £13 mill seems to be a done deal, expected to be completed this week.

We have bid £35m + £5m addons for Southampton's 19 year old Belgian defensive midfielder Romeo Lavia, but Southampton have turned it down saying their price tag is £50m. Can't say I noticed him at all last season.

You'd normally think that's close enough to get a deal done, but it seems Fabinho's £40m move to Saudi is becoming doubtful and he's to join up with Liverpool's pre season preparations. Apparently a blocker to the move is that Fabinho can't get a guarantee that he can get his two French bulldogs into Saudi! If that falls through I wonder will that scupper our bid for Lavia?

I also read that when Soton bought Lavia from City for 10.5m + 2.5m addons, City have a 20% sell on clause and they have first refusal if Soton sell. No sign so far of City showing interest, but that could change quickly.

Trent has played both pre-season games in midfield, so that positional switch could well be permanent. Not sure we've a good enough right back now though. Bradley has more development to get through. I would like to see Kostas tried there. With Trent and McAllister in midfield, less pressure on the right back to be a creator.

If Fabinho goes Liverpool would need to bring in 2 more midfielders - an experienced defensive midfielder, a specialist in that role who can slot right in and a younger signing like a Lavia. Wouldn't want to be relying on a 19 year old.

Wonder what the plans for Bajetic are this year. He is not a true 6 like Fabinho, Rodri etc which is what Liverpool need. I think last year proved just how important this role is, Liverpool form fell of a cliff when Fabinho did not perform.

Agree about pinning all your hopes on a 19 year old, especially with the track record with injuries under Klopps system.

AustinPowers

I was hearing  Henderson has  spoken out about gay rights and such things.  Now he's heading to a country  where  homosexuality is illegal? 

I wonder how  this  will go down

Hound

Trent playing right back today. No real choice given Jones and Elliott are back, we have far more options at midfield that need game time.

From the Bunker

Quote from: AustinPowers on July 27, 2023, 01:03:33 PM
I was hearing  Henderson has  spoken out about gay rights and such things.  Now he's heading to a country  where  homosexuality is illegal? 

I wonder how  this  will go down

He'll trot of to Saudi Arabia and be forgotten about. In 5 to 10 years he'll be trotting back to Anfield to play in Legends games and no one will care or know what he though about anything.

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Hound

Injury time screamer gave Bayern a 4-3 win over Liverpool.

Nice goals from Gakpo and Diaz.
Trent at right back and telling that the first two Bayern goals came from the space he left behind. Alisson was pretty poor for the third!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjvULawJ1U4

statto

Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on July 31, 2023, 09:23:59 PM
Fabinho confirmed as gone.

The lack of a replacement is really worrying at this stage.  Five senior midfielders out replaced by two is not going to compete.  City are City, Arsenal have went big this summer, Chelsea will be better and United should improve again. 

Would also say that another defender would be required. 

The plus side of pre season to date is that all the lads up top seem to be moving well, so goals shouldn't be a problem the issue seems to be keeping them out.