Man Utd Thread:

Started by full back, November 10, 2006, 08:13:49 AM

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Jeepers Creepers

Utd could have scored 10 goals last night. However Bayern still would have scored 15. The manner in which Utd concede is brutal to watch. Keepers mistake and Gnabry unmarked in the box was criminal. McTomniy standing watching the cross in for the 4th from 4 feet away!? Penalty decision was redic  but as I said Bayern would have always scored more regardless of mistakes and decisions. Burnley game is massive to build a platform going fwd. Few boys back into the squad this week is also a boost. Hope amrmabat is as good as everyone is making out as that misfiled is the slowest midfield in world football

NAG1

Just curious to see what formation he goes with when Amrabat is coming into the team.

Does he go 4-2-3-1, which to me would make them harder to beat/ play through but also takes away an attacking threat.

Means if you have Bruno and Rashford as nailed on starters, you have Erikson, Garnacho, Pelestri, Martial, not to mention Sancho / Antony vying for one position.

trailer

This reminds me of the last throws of the Ole reign. Everything went against him. The results, injuries. No matter what EtH does, it all turns to shit. A gutsy 0-0 probably stems the blood, but the keeper throws one into the net, BM get a very dubious pen, defending very questionable. Imagine scoring 3 against BM in Germany and losing.

I want him to stay and think he'll be good, even if limited by the Glazers, but it isn't my decision.

Cunny Funt

Was a bizarre game in Munich last night. Was expecting Bayern to blitz United early on yet for the opening 28 minutes United were the better team and could easily have been in front, then from Bayern's first attack they score via Onana mistake and moments later poor defending by Dalot and leaving Gnabry unmarked in the box it's 2-0.

Hojlund goal early into the 2nd gets United back into the game only to concede soon after with a debatable penalty (similar incident already happened this season in the match against spurs with Romero yet no penalty was given) By the 70th minute played Bayern 3-1 ahead having not played overly great which said about as much on United than them.

The final quarter of the match Bayern played their best football of the match had 11 of their 19 shots on goal. Two of the post and Onana made a number of decent saves yet in their best period and United worst it would be 2-1 in scoring to United as I said a bizarre game.

trailer

Sancho refusing to apologise and reintegrate into the squad. Was given plenty of opportunity to fix his mental health. He's thrown that back at the manager and the team. Another f**king crazy Ole signing.

Hiding behind the old mental health card. It's getting played far, far too much all across society.

statto

Quote from: trailer on September 26, 2023, 01:34:03 PMSancho refusing to apologise and reintegrate into the squad. Was given plenty of opportunity to fix his mental health. He's thrown that back at the manager and the team. Another f**king crazy Ole signing.

Hiding behind the old mental health card. It's getting played far, far too much all across society.

This signing reminded me of the Sanchez signing when you thought this is nailed on to be successful given his record in Germany and the fact was English and should have hit the ground running.  Absolute spoilt brat and United will have to take a significant loss on him to offload in January or the summer. 

Armagh18

Quote from: statto on September 26, 2023, 02:16:07 PM
Quote from: trailer on September 26, 2023, 01:34:03 PMSancho refusing to apologise and reintegrate into the squad. Was given plenty of opportunity to fix his mental health. He's thrown that back at the manager and the team. Another f**king crazy Ole signing.

Hiding behind the old mental health card. It's getting played far, far too much all across society.

This signing reminded me of the Sanchez signing when you thought this is nailed on to be successful given his record in Germany and the fact was English and should have hit the ground running.  Absolute spoilt brat and United will have to take a significant loss on him to offload in January or the summer. 
Happening far too much at United. Getting these mad contracts then doing absolutely nothing to justify them. Ten Hag has huge job on

Bord na Mona man

I suspect that back in Ferguson's day he would have sniffed out and swerved past players who had talent but didn't have the required dedication.

Pogba, Martial, Sancho are soccer's version of the GAA townie in white boots.
Look flash in the good times, but don't roll up their sleeves for any dirty work.

Scouting units can collect a million stats on passes completed, assists, sprints, XGs and all that. It's the other intangibles that can dictate how much a player can achieve.
Certain players kick back and relax once they've gotten the cars and the super models.

Ferguson once said that when Utd were pursuing Stan Collymore, his tendency to be a lad off the pitch put him off.
Collymore ended up at Liverpool where it was white booted, (or white suited) townie central, Redknapp, McManaman, Fowler etc.
All guys who had ability but not the mentality.
Utd are now the ones with the spice boy problem.

Ethan Tremblay

Quote from: Bord na Mona man on September 26, 2023, 02:49:21 PMI suspect that back in Ferguson's day he would have sniffed out and swerved past players who had talent but didn't have the required dedication.

Pogba, Martial, Sancho are soccer's version of the GAA townie in white boots.
Look flash in the good times, but don't roll up their sleeves for any dirty work.

Scouting units can collect a million stats on passes completed, assists, sprints, XGs and all that. It's the other intangibles that can dictate how much a player can achieve.
Certain players kick back and relax once they've gotten the cars and the super models.

Ferguson once said that when Utd were pursuing Stan Collymore, his tendency to be a lad off the pitch put him off.
Collymore ended up at Liverpool where it was white booted, (or white suited) townie central, Redknapp, McManaman, Fowler etc.
All guys who had ability but not the mentality.
Utd are now the ones with the spice boy problem.


That in a nutshell is the issue with recent signings.  On paper their stats are insane, mentality wise, they are not willing to do what champions do. 

Ten Hag to his credit has done it his way from day 1.  Ronaldo and now Sancho, he is demanding his rules are obeyed by at all costs. He seems to have taken heed of Roy Keanes warning from years ago whereby the players are going to cost the manager his job and is not allowing recent history to repeat itself.


I tend to think of myself as a one man wolfpack...

NAG1

Quote from: Ethan Tremblay on September 26, 2023, 03:22:24 PM
Quote from: Bord na Mona man on September 26, 2023, 02:49:21 PMI suspect that back in Ferguson's day he would have sniffed out and swerved past players who had talent but didn't have the required dedication.

Pogba, Martial, Sancho are soccer's version of the GAA townie in white boots.
Look flash in the good times, but don't roll up their sleeves for any dirty work.

Scouting units can collect a million stats on passes completed, assists, sprints, XGs and all that. It's the other intangibles that can dictate how much a player can achieve.
Certain players kick back and relax once they've gotten the cars and the super models.

Ferguson once said that when Utd were pursuing Stan Collymore, his tendency to be a lad off the pitch put him off.
Collymore ended up at Liverpool where it was white booted, (or white suited) townie central, Redknapp, McManaman, Fowler etc.
All guys who had ability but not the mentality.
Utd are now the ones with the spice boy problem.


That in a nutshell is the issue with recent signings.  On paper their stats are insane, mentality wise, they are not willing to do what champions do. 

Ten Hag to his credit has done it his way from day 1.  Ronaldo and now Sancho, he is demanding his rules are obeyed by at all costs. He seems to have taken heed of Roy Keanes warning from years ago whereby the players are going to cost the manager his job and is not allowing recent history to repeat itself.




Have to give him respect, at least if he is going to go down it will be with the players that he chooses and those that have put their shoulder to the wheel with the manager.

Don't think you can say fairer than that.

Armagh18

Quote from: NAG1 on September 26, 2023, 03:34:10 PM
Quote from: Ethan Tremblay on September 26, 2023, 03:22:24 PM
Quote from: Bord na Mona man on September 26, 2023, 02:49:21 PMI suspect that back in Ferguson's day he would have sniffed out and swerved past players who had talent but didn't have the required dedication.

Pogba, Martial, Sancho are soccer's version of the GAA townie in white boots.
Look flash in the good times, but don't roll up their sleeves for any dirty work.

Scouting units can collect a million stats on passes completed, assists, sprints, XGs and all that. It's the other intangibles that can dictate how much a player can achieve.
Certain players kick back and relax once they've gotten the cars and the super models.

Ferguson once said that when Utd were pursuing Stan Collymore, his tendency to be a lad off the pitch put him off.
Collymore ended up at Liverpool where it was white booted, (or white suited) townie central, Redknapp, McManaman, Fowler etc.
All guys who had ability but not the mentality.
Utd are now the ones with the spice boy problem.


That in a nutshell is the issue with recent signings.  On paper their stats are insane, mentality wise, they are not willing to do what champions do. 

Ten Hag to his credit has done it his way from day 1.  Ronaldo and now Sancho, he is demanding his rules are obeyed by at all costs. He seems to have taken heed of Roy Keanes warning from years ago whereby the players are going to cost the manager his job and is not allowing recent history to repeat itself.




Have to give him respect, at least if he is going to go down it will be with the players that he chooses and those that have put their shoulder to the wheel with the manager.

Don't think you can say fairer than that.
at some point they'll have to stick with a manager and let him guy the ones who don't want to be there out. That Liverpool team who were so good under Klopp had plenty of talent but the talented boys would put the shift in as well. Between Greenwood, Anthony and Sanchos off field issues plus Martial being made of glass theres hundreds of millions worth of attacking talent producing little or nothing.

NAG1

Encouraging signs last night, even if it was against a very weak opposition.

Casemiro looked back to something close to his form of last season, lots of energy and enthusiasm up the pitch and Amrabat looks like he is definitely going to bring something to the team.

AustinPowers

Quote from: NAG1 on September 27, 2023, 11:50:50 AMEncouraging signs last night, even if it was against a very weak opposition.

Casemiro looked back to something close to his form of last season, lots of energy and enthusiasm up the pitch and Amrabat looks like he is definitely going to bring something to the team.

It must  have been weak , if Martial scored

trailer

Quote from: AustinPowers on September 27, 2023, 12:23:13 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 27, 2023, 11:50:50 AMEncouraging signs last night, even if it was against a very weak opposition.

Casemiro looked back to something close to his form of last season, lots of energy and enthusiasm up the pitch and Amrabat looks like he is definitely going to bring something to the team.

It must  have been weak , if Martial scored

Reminder... Martial has a Ballon d'or clause in his contract.

Nanderson

Quote from: trailer on September 27, 2023, 12:54:42 PM
Quote from: AustinPowers on September 27, 2023, 12:23:13 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on September 27, 2023, 11:50:50 AMEncouraging signs last night, even if it was against a very weak opposition.

Casemiro looked back to something close to his form of last season, lots of energy and enthusiasm up the pitch and Amrabat looks like he is definitely going to bring something to the team.

It must  have been weak , if Martial scored

Reminder... Martial has a Ballon d'or clause in his contract.
HAD a clause in his contract