Gobshite. He and JOE.ie have always been more perfect for each other. Amateur, sneaky bastards who would do anything for a bit of profile and publicity.
Eddie Brennan absolutely stitched up by them today.
What did he say? I don't listen to the hurling shows.
What did he do?
I usually enjoy his podcast although I only listen to the football one.
I usually only listen to the football as well. To be fair their Monday shows with Cian Ward are always enjoyable as he is an excellent analyst
Interview with Eddie today. They wrapped it up, cheers for that Eddie, talk to ya soon etc. Eddie then continued to speak to them off the record, having used the phrase "off the record" and gave the Laois County Board a bit of a roasting. JOE went ahead and put the entire clip out.
Wooly saying it's nothing to with him.
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A balls up maybe?
Brennan had a proper go at Laois county board "off the record". It remained on the record.
If genuinely a mistake, it just shows the amateurishness and incompetence of JOE. Whole podcast should be scrapped.
Was the sound engineers fault... both Wooly and Brennan's reputations are in tatters how can Laois keep Brennan on after that??
Proprietors of Joe.ie facing fraud allegations too not a good look!
I think Brennan has only reinforced his reputation as somebody you'd want to manage a county team if you're serious about winning things
I think Parkinson has reinforced his already considerable reputation as a weaselly trolling gobshite
Excellent podcast, I hope its not binned now because of this. Accidents happen in a small operation like that but someone nailed him before he could clean it up.
He's a p***k and always has been. Thick as pig shit as well. Over inflated sense of both his abilities as a footballer and his intelligence. Shit hair too.
He labels himself as the "presenter/producer/researcher" of the show. He can't hide behind some unpaid intern sound engineer.
Quote from: gallsman on November 10, 2020, 12:22:22 AM
He's a p***k and always has been. Thick as pig shit as well. Over inflated sense of both his abilities as a footballer and his intelligence. Shit hair too.
He labels himself as the "presenter/producer/researcher" of the show. He can't hide behind wine unpaid intern sound engineer.
Get off the fence and say what you really think!!
The microphone is never off. Ever.
Brennan freely chose to say what he said in a recording studio so is far from blameless. He is a guard so if anyone should get the idea that what you say in a room with a recording device can be used against you he should. Was he not caught up in some controversy about his gob and a tape recording?
But Parkinson is an absolute snake for runnimg with it. And he did, there was no mistake.
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on November 10, 2020, 02:09:54 AM
The microphone is never off. Ever.
Brennan freely chose to say what he said in a recording studio so is far from blameless. He is a guard so if anyone should get the idea that what you say in a room with a recording device can be used against you he should. Was he not caught up in some controversy about his gob and a tape recording?
But Parkinson is an absolute snake for runnimg with it. And he did, there was no mistake.
Brennan was on the phone I think, not in a recording studio
Parkinson really is a slimy, know it all p***k.
Like Joe.ie, I hope this is the end of the whole thing.
Click bait, attention seekings twats.
Parkinson & Joe.ie are really no better than the red tops.
Quote from: gallsman on November 10, 2020, 12:22:22 AM
He's a p***k and always has been. Thick as pig shit as well. Over inflated sense of both his abilities as a footballer and his intelligence. Shit hair too.
He labels himself as the "presenter/producer/researcher" of the show. He can't hide behind wine unpaid intern sound engineer.
100% agree, I dated a girl for a while who ran in the same social circles. Thick as a ditch but thought he was Einstein
He has made it clear that he doesn't like the Laois county board and saw the opportunity to put the boot in and released it.
Coward doesn't even have the decency to accept the blame, says why would he accept the blame for a mistake he didn't make, it's his f**king show
Joe Troy was right, he's a rat
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on November 10, 2020, 02:09:54 AM
The microphone is never off. Ever.
Brennan freely chose to say what he said in a recording studio so is far from blameless. He is a guard so if anyone should get the idea that what you say in a room with a recording device can be used against you he should. Was he not caught up in some controversy about his gob and a tape recording?
But Parkinson is an absolute snake for runnimg with it. And he did, there was no mistake.
He clearly says this is off the record
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Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on November 10, 2020, 02:09:54 AM
The microphone is never off. Ever.
Brennan freely chose to say what he said in a recording studio so is far from blameless. He is a guard so if anyone should get the idea that what you say in a room with a recording device can be used against you he should. Was he not caught up in some controversy about his gob and a tape recording?
But Parkinson is an absolute snake for runnimg with it. And he did, there was no mistake.
He clearly says this is off the record
There is no such thing when being interviewed
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Quote from: Mayo4Sam on November 10, 2020, 08:45:57 AM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on November 10, 2020, 02:09:54 AM
The microphone is never off. Ever.
Brennan freely chose to say what he said in a recording studio so is far from blameless. He is a guard so if anyone should get the idea that what you say in a room with a recording device can be used against you he should. Was he not caught up in some controversy about his gob and a tape recording?
But Parkinson is an absolute snake for runnimg with it. And he did, there was no mistake.
He clearly says this is off the record
There is no such thing when being interviewed
What a ridiculous statement
Lots of people will say stuff off the record that they don't want aired. Interviewers agree to that because they want the inside track.
How many people will speak to Wholly now off the record? I'll give you a hint, it's less than one
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Quote from: gallsman on November 10, 2020, 12:22:22 AM
He's a p***k and always has been. Thick as pig shit as well. Over inflated sense of both his abilities as a footballer and his intelligence. Shit hair too.
He labels himself as the "presenter/producer/researcher" of the show. He can't hide behind wine unpaid intern sound engineer.
100% agree, I dated a girl for a while who ran in the same social circles. Thick as a ditch but thought he was Einstein
Did she have a willy?
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Quote from: gallsman on November 10, 2020, 12:22:22 AM
He's a p***k and always has been. Thick as pig shit as well. Over inflated sense of both his abilities as a footballer and his intelligence. Shit hair too.
He labels himself as the "presenter/producer/researcher" of the show. He can't hide behind wine unpaid intern sound engineer.
100% agree, I dated a girl for a while who ran in the same social circles. Thick as a ditch but thought he was Einstein
Did she have a willy?
Hi Colm.
TBH I had forgotten Wolly was even still broadcasting. Never had much time for him.
Once an interviewee says off the record then that's it. Eddie Brennan is not a lad I'd like to cross.
Hope Wolly's tyre thread is within the regulations. That is if he can drive!
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Quote from: Mayo4Sam on November 10, 2020, 08:45:57 AM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on November 10, 2020, 02:09:54 AM
The microphone is never off. Ever.
Brennan freely chose to say what he said in a recording studio so is far from blameless. He is a guard so if anyone should get the idea that what you say in a room with a recording device can be used against you he should. Was he not caught up in some controversy about his gob and a tape recording?
But Parkinson is an absolute snake for runnimg with it. And he did, there was no mistake.
He clearly says this is off the record
There is no such thing when being interviewed
What a ridiculous statement
Lots of people will say stuff off the record that they don't want aired. Interviewers agree to that because they want the inside track.
How many people will speak to Wholly now off the record? I'll give you a hint, it's less than one
First rule of media work. The mic is never off. He put himself in a position that Wolly could air his comments. Which he did
I think it's pretty obvious and it will be especially so to Eddie today that you shouldn't put yourself in the position where you could be left red faced like this.
Eddie was naïve and I think woolys just every bit the snake he always seemed.
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He's a p***k and always has been. Thick as pig shit as well. Over inflated sense of both his abilities as a footballer and his intelligence. Shit hair too.
He labels himself as the "presenter/producer/researcher" of the show. He can't hide behind wine unpaid intern sound engineer.
100% agree, I dated a girl for a while who ran in the same social circles. Thick as a ditch but thought he was Einstein
Did she have a willy?
Hi Colm.
Was that his name?
I'd say Wooly has got plenty of off the record stuff over the years, this looks like a chance to sink the boot into the Laois CB that was taken.
Strange for him though, you have to wonder who......if anyone will now go on the line with him to give him anything half decent.
Quote from: screenexile on November 09, 2020, 10:51:36 PM
Was the sound engineers fault... both Wooly and Brennan's reputations are in tatters how can Laois keep Brennan on after that??
Proprietors of Joe.ie facing fraud allegations too not a good look!
How can they keep him? They should be listening to what he said and doing everything they can to keep him.
He has been brilliant for Laois hurling.
Quote from: screenexile on November 09, 2020, 10:51:36 PM
Was the sound engineers fault... both Wooly and Brennan's reputations are in tatters how can Laois keep Brennan on after that??
Proprietors of Joe.ie facing fraud allegations too not a good look!
What's the fraud allegations?
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Quote from: screenexile on November 09, 2020, 10:51:36 PM
Was the sound engineers fault... both Wooly and Brennan's reputations are in tatters how can Laois keep Brennan on after that??
Proprietors of Joe.ie facing fraud allegations too not a good look!
How can they keep him? They should be listening to what he said and doing everything they can to keep him.
He has been brilliant for Laois hurling.
Because thats how it works
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Quote from: gallsman on November 10, 2020, 12:22:22 AM
He's a p***k and always has been. Thick as pig shit as well. Over inflated sense of both his abilities as a footballer and his intelligence. Shit hair too.
He labels himself as the "presenter/producer/researcher" of the show. He can't hide behind wine unpaid intern sound engineer.
100% agree, I dated a girl for a while who ran in the same social circles. Thick as a ditch but thought he was Einstein
Could be any number of posters here so
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on November 10, 2020, 12:40:54 PM
Quote from: screenexile on November 09, 2020, 10:51:36 PM
Was the sound engineers fault... both Wooly and Brennan's reputations are in tatters how can Laois keep Brennan on after that??
Proprietors of Joe.ie facing fraud allegations too not a good look!
What's the fraud allegations?
They lost a whole bunch of advertisers a couple of years ago after they were found to be using a Russian (I think) clickfarm to inflate their viewer statistics.
McGarry tried to claim it was a rogue individual, the Nick Lesson of JOE if you will. I think the holding company, Maximum Media, has subsequently filed for bankruptcy, with McGarry claiming that the mainstream media are out to get them because of how they're market disruptors, rather than just a bunch of shysters.
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Quote from: screenexile on November 09, 2020, 10:51:36 PM
Was the sound engineers fault... both Wooly and Brennan's reputations are in tatters how can Laois keep Brennan on after that??
Proprietors of Joe.ie facing fraud allegations too not a good look!
What's the fraud allegations?
They lost a whole bunch of advertisers a couple of years ago after they were found to be using a Russian (I think) clickfarm to inflate their viewer statistics.
McGarry tried to claim it was a rogue individual, the Nick Lesson of JOE if you will. I think the holding company, Maximum Media, has subsequently filed for bankruptcy, with McGarry claiming that the mainstream media are out to get them because of how they're market disruptors, rather than just a bunch of shysters.
I think McGarry has since lost ownership of it?
Any player/manager may think twice before going on this show in the future
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I think McGarry has since lost ownership of it?
He stepped away from executive involvement, don't know if he lost ownership though.
He was busy calling it "too big to fail" and "too important for Ireland" a few months ago.
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Quote from: five points on November 10, 2020, 12:51:17 PM
I think McGarry has since lost ownership of it?
He stepped away from executive involvement, don't know if he lost ownership though.
He was busy calling it "too big to fail" and "too important for Ireland" a few months ago.
The Currency did a long piece on it. He's out of the Irish operation completely, but still with the UK arm - which is much bigger and being looked at by a number of bigger players as a takeover prospect.
The main damage caused by the click farm saga was that it unnerved their sponsors - with the main one being AIB I think.
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Quote from: five points on November 10, 2020, 12:51:17 PM
I think McGarry has since lost ownership of it?
He stepped away from executive involvement, don't know if he lost ownership though.
He was busy calling it "too big to fail" and "too important for Ireland" a few months ago.
The Currency did a long piece on it. He's out of the Irish operation completely, but still with the UK arm - which is much bigger and being looked at by a number of bigger players as a takeover prospect.
The main damage caused by the click farm saga was that it unnerved their sponsors - with the main one being AIB I think.
Content is key and could never understand how there's was good enough to become profitable.
Quote from: dublin7 on November 09, 2020, 10:33:49 PM
I usually only listen to the football as well. To be fair their Monday shows with Cian Ward are always enjoyable as he is an excellent analyst
Cian Ward is awful. Only worse pundit is Ger Brennan.
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Quote from: gallsman on November 10, 2020, 01:22:25 PM
Quote from: five points on November 10, 2020, 12:51:17 PM
I think McGarry has since lost ownership of it?
He stepped away from executive involvement, don't know if he lost ownership though.
He was busy calling it "too big to fail" and "too important for Ireland" a few months ago.
The Currency did a long piece on it. He's out of the Irish operation completely, but still with the UK arm - which is much bigger and being looked at by a number of bigger players as a takeover prospect.
The main damage caused by the click farm saga was that it unnerved their sponsors - with the main one being AIB I think.
Content is key and could never understand how there's was good enough to become profitable.
The entire thing is and always has been completed tripe. Terrible prose, no editing, robbed content etc
Pat McCarry's rugby "journalism" consists large of rambling pieces headlined "X Young Irish Player is a BEAST!"
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Quote from: dublin7 on November 09, 2020, 10:33:49 PM
I usually only listen to the football as well. To be fair their Monday shows with Cian Ward are always enjoyable as he is an excellent analyst
Cian Ward is awful. Only worse pundit is Ger Brennan.
Have to say I like Cian Ward. Agreed Ger Brennan is horrific
I find Cian Ward excellent. His contributions particularly on the club games are very good.
Maybe I'm not listening to the right podcasts :-) but I find the football show probably the best one around.
Quote from: Maroon Manc on November 10, 2020, 05:18:56 PM
Quote from: shark on November 10, 2020, 03:09:47 PM
Quote from: gallsman on November 10, 2020, 01:22:25 PM
Quote from: five points on November 10, 2020, 12:51:17 PM
I think McGarry has since lost ownership of it?
He stepped away from executive involvement, don't know if he lost ownership though.
He was busy calling it "too big to fail" and "too important for Ireland" a few months ago.
The Currency did a long piece on it. He's out of the Irish operation completely, but still with the UK arm - which is much bigger and being looked at by a number of bigger players as a takeover prospect.
The main damage caused by the click farm saga was that it unnerved their sponsors - with the main one being AIB I think.
Content is key and could never understand how there's was good enough to become profitable.
Its not. As s9on as the clickfarming stopped it died on its arse
I can see why people think Wooly is a p***k, I do as well sometimes but he doesn't hold back his opinions and his podcast is the best GAA podcast there is in my opinion. After a big gaa weekend there is nothing i enjoy more than listening to it for an hour. I'm not a particularly big hurling fan but i'll even listen to that podcast from time to time as well.
I am a rare hurling fan around here, I find both his podcasts quite good and for a man that doesn't call himself a hurling person he is very knowledgeable in the players and the history of the players and teams setup in particular. He is no doubt a clever bloke but sometimes though his mouth is too big for his own good.
Quote from: laoislad on November 10, 2020, 12:10:22 PM
Quote from: screenexile on November 09, 2020, 10:51:36 PM
Was the sound engineers fault... both Wooly and Brennan's reputations are in tatters how can Laois keep Brennan on after that??
Proprietors of Joe.ie facing fraud allegations too not a good look!
How can they keep him? They should be listening to what he said and doing everything they can to keep him.
He has been brilliant for Laois hurling.
Agree 100%. Time for cool heads and people to put their egos aside for the good of Laois hurling.
I would be a regular enough listener to the football show.
IMO that's a dirty doin on Brennan. I'd say there might be a few with second thoughts about being interviewed for the show now.
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Quote from: screenexile on November 09, 2020, 10:51:36 PM
Was the sound engineers fault... both Wooly and Brennan's reputations are in tatters how can Laois keep Brennan on after that??
Proprietors of Joe.ie facing fraud allegations too not a good look!
How can they keep him? They should be listening to what he said and doing everything they can to keep him.
He has been brilliant for Laois hurling.
Agree 100%. Time for cool heads and people to put their egos aside for the good of Laois hurling.
A regular occurrence throughout the history of the association!
Just heard this and Brennan as a county manager should keep this stuff to himself, how many other people has he been telling all this stuff to , sounds like a fella who would be telling all this stuff to every second person he meets . Get his plan together tell the county board what you need and continue or leave . Parkinson or joe should not release the audio though.
Surely Parkinson didn't release this though? I'm sure he's had a million off the record conversations over the years. Was not an innocent mistake. Would be pretty silly to think he would sink himself like that. Best gaa podcast about as well.
Quote from: JimStynes on November 11, 2020, 06:52:39 PM
Surely Parkinson didn't release this though? I'm sure he's had a million off the record conversations over the years. Was not an innocent mistake. Would be pretty silly to think he would sink himself like that. Best gaa podcast about as well.
I agree. He had nothing to gain by releasing it.
I would personally believe it was a genuine mistake.
Doesn't matter. Whether it was deliberate to gain a 'scoop', or pure ineptitude, people will now be very careful in what they say to him!
Doubt very strongly he meant it, what has he to gain from this but ridicule. I enjoy his podcast but not necessarily him, he does very little research on many topics he brings up and often goes off on one when he clearly has false or half the details necessary to come to a reasonable conclusion. He cannot pronounce any place name with more than a syllable and a half. He seems to insist having his 2 sidekicks agree with him most of the time basically tell me lads I'm right! Lockdown podcasts about old games were good but jaysus his long ones about reforming structures in the GAA etc were painful. Goes on about playing for Portlaoise same way Johnny Giles talks about my day with Leeds. Other than that.....Cian Ward very good, Cheddar Plunkett excellent.
Parkinson is not a sound engineer he's a podcaster and public health expert. Ridiculous he's getting the flak for this error.
Quote from: Westside on November 12, 2020, 01:39:05 PM
Parkinson is not a sound engineer he's a podcaster and public health expert. Ridiculous he's getting the flak for this error.
Podcaster?
He calls himself presenter/producer & researcher.
Deserves everything coming his way.
Public health expert ;D
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Quote from: Westside on November 12, 2020, 01:39:05 PM
Parkinson is not a sound engineer he's a podcaster and public health expert. Ridiculous he's getting the flak for this error.
Podcaster?
He calls himself presenter/producer & researcher.
Deserves everything coming his way.
Public health expert ;D
Why does he deserve everything coming his way? Because he annoys you a bit or because someone leaked that to the public? I don't get the hate about him. He's a bit of a tube but he seems good enough craic on the show and doesn't take himself too serious either. The GAA hour is by far the best GAA podcast going. There's plenty of podcasters like that I don't like so I don't listen anymore.
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Parkinson is not a sound engineer he's a podcaster and public health expert. Ridiculous he's getting the flak for this error.
Podcaster?
He calls himself presenter/producer & researcher.
Deserves everything coming his way.
Public health expert ;D
Why does he deserve everything coming his way? Because he annoys you a bit or because someone leaked that to the public? I don't get the hate about him. He's a bit of a tube but he seems good enough craic on the show and doesn't take himself too serious either. The GAA hour is by far the best GAA podcast going. There's plenty of podcasters like that I don't like so I don't listen anymore.
probably because he's not on the Covid mass lockdown side . The hurling show is very good I enjoy Carroll and cheddar and nice to hear some opinions from the smaller counties.
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Quote from: Westside on November 12, 2020, 01:39:05 PM
Parkinson is not a sound engineer he's a podcaster and public health expert. Ridiculous he's getting the flak for this error.
Podcaster?
He calls himself presenter/producer & researcher.
Deserves everything coming his way.
Public health expert ;D
Why does he deserve everything coming his way? Because he annoys you a bit or because someone leaked that to the public? I don't get the hate about him. He's a bit of a tube but he seems good enough craic on the show and doesn't take himself too serious either. The GAA hour is by far the best GAA podcast going. There's plenty of podcasters like that I don't like so I don't listen anymore.
He has an opinion that sometimes isn't mainstream. That can get you a lot of flack in today's world
Ooohhh he has an opinion that isn't mainstream.
Ooohhhh he's edgy
Ooohhh he's not afraid to speak his mind.
Blah blah blah. The same shite people spout about Joe Rogan or Barstool Sports.
That's the reasoning people don't like him. Nothing to do with being a twat ::)
Every town has one, he's an authority on everything but in reality doesn't know his arse from his elbow about anything. He'd be the first man in line to criticise if it suited him so good to see him taking some flak when the shoe is on the other foot.
He did well having Stevie McDonnell on the podcast for so long, Colm couldn't help but sound reasoned and insightful by comparison.
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Every town has one, he's an authority on everything but in reality doesn't know his arse from his elbow about anything. He'd be the first man in line to criticise if it suited him so good to see him taking some flak when the shoe is on the other foot.
He did well having Stevie McDonnell on the podcast for so long, Colm couldn't help but sound reasoned and insightful by comparison.
And they were always the lads who got 75 points in the Leaving
Quote from: gallsman on November 12, 2020, 09:35:56 PM
Ooohhh he has an opinion that isn't mainstream.
Ooohhhh he's edgy
Ooohhh he's not afraid to speak his mind.
Blah blah blah. The same shite people spout about Joe Rogan or Barstool Sports.
That's the reasoning people don't like him. Nothing to do with being a twat ::)
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Jeepers calm down big lad. Not overly fussed either way on him as its not really that important in bigger scheme of things. He has 53k followers on Twitter so somebody likes him at least a wee bit
I enjoy the podcasts and while I doubt myself and Colm would ever be best pals if we knew each other he does an alright job. Better than OTB by a mile anyway. I've no reason to think this was intentional.
As for Eddie being critical of the county board, what's the big deal, we've all said the same thing probably and you know what he said is in part true of a lot of county boards. Things in Meath have gotten better in recent years but there where times when our county board made the 3 stooges look like Mensa.
GAA Hour host Parkinson issues apology to Eddie Brennan and Laois GAA
Colm Parkinson has issued an apology to Eddie Brennan and Laois GAA over the 'off the record conversation' that found its way onto the airwaves earlier this week.
Laois hurling manager Eddie Brennan had been a guest on the GAA Hour podcast on Joe.ie with host Colm Parkinson but an off the record chat accidentally found its way onto the podcast.
It was deleted in the aftermath but the conversation spread like wildfire on Whats App where Brennan was critical of the County Board.
Speaking on his podcast this evening, Parkinson, a former Laois and Portlaoise Gaelic footballer, added;
"I want to apologise publicly to Eddie Brennan.
"I have apologised to him many times in private since the show made that terrible mistake on Monday.
"I have done hundreds of interviews on the show over the last four and a half years and nothing like that has ever happened before.
"Managers and players know that when they come on the show they will be treated with respect and that didn't happen on Monday and we have to take responsibility for that.
"I also want to apologise to the Laois County Board. The idea that Laois GAA has been put in the spotlight all this week because of a mistake made on my show makes me sick to my stomach if I'm being honest.
"Eddie Brennan is a brilliant manager and he is clearly a player's manager and Laois GAA are very, very lucky to have him."
https://www.leinsterexpress.ie/news/sport/588553/gaa-hour-host-parkinson-issues-apology-to-eddie-brennan-and-laois-gaa.html
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Quote from: JimStynes on November 12, 2020, 05:48:31 PM
Quote from: Taylor on November 12, 2020, 02:16:01 PM
Quote from: Westside on November 12, 2020, 01:39:05 PM
Parkinson is not a sound engineer he's a podcaster and public health expert. Ridiculous he's getting the flak for this error.
Podcaster?
He calls himself presenter/producer & researcher.
Deserves everything coming his way.
Public health expert ;D
Why does he deserve everything coming his way? Because he annoys you a bit or because someone leaked that to the public? I don't get the hate about him. He's a bit of a tube but he seems good enough craic on the show and doesn't take himself too serious either. The GAA hour is by far the best GAA podcast going. There's plenty of podcasters like that I don't like so I don't listen anymore.
probably because he's not on the Covid mass lockdown side . The hurling show is very good I enjoy Carroll and cheddar and nice to hear some opinions from the smaller counties.
;D ;D
You think people dont like him because he isnt on Covid mass lockdown side?!?!
You can see many comments here and none refer to Covid.
Quote from: gallsman on November 12, 2020, 09:35:56 PM
Ooohhh he has an opinion that isn't mainstream.
Ooohhhh he's edgy
Ooohhh he's not afraid to speak his mind.
Blah blah blah. The same shite people spout about Joe Rogan or Barstool Sports.
That's the reasoning people don't like him. Nothing to do with being a twat ::)
It's amazing how people get so worked up and annoyed about someone or something they can easily ignored. Don't like him don't follow or listen to his podcast. It really is that simple ya know?
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Quote from: gallsman on November 12, 2020, 09:35:56 PM
Ooohhh he has an opinion that isn't mainstream.
Ooohhhh he's edgy
Ooohhh he's not afraid to speak his mind.
Blah blah blah. The same shite people spout about Joe Rogan or Barstool Sports.
That's the reasoning people don't like him. Nothing to do with being a twat ::)
It's amazing how people get so worked up and annoyed about someone or something they can easily ignored. Don't like him don't follow or listen to his podcast. It really is that simple ya know?
I'm not worked up about him in the slightest, I don't listen to him and I don't follow him on social media. I just think he's a gobshite.
I'm laughing at the way people throw out the allegation that someone is disliked for the mere crime of thinking outside the mainstream or speaking their mind rather than it simply being because someone's an arsehole. Loads of gobshites speak their minds and have edgy opinions. That doesn't in itself prevent them from being arseholes. Ironically, the sort of brain dead moron who thinks it does tends to be someone completely incapable of thinking for themselves.
Eddie Brennan has resigned as Laois manager.
His position was untenable after Parkinson's crew's hatchet job.
Best hurling manager Laois have had in a long time imo, dreadful way for him to leave really after that nonsense with the podcast. Laois lose will be someone else's gain and if he could get that level of performance out of Laois imagine if he took over the Dubs.
Im no real fan of Parkinson but his podcast was generally pretty decent to be fair to him, the cynic in me thinks they may have done it to boost listenership as it is a bit convenient that something like this has never happened before but now when it does happen it is something as controversial as this that gets released. It did go viral get publicity which is the Joe.ie business model where clicks are currency. But we can only take his word for it.
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on November 24, 2020, 01:39:27 PM
Eddie Brennan has resigned as Laois manager.
His position was untenable after Parkinson's crew's hatchet job.
Did Joe.ie (or sports joe) even mention that he had left? Surely notable for a sports 'news' organisation
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on November 24, 2020, 01:39:27 PM
Eddie Brennan has resigned as Laois manager.
His position was untenable after Parkinson's crew's hatchet job.
Was it a resignation, as 2 years had finished?
I listened to a podcast interview between Brennan and Parkinson the other day and I didn't get that vibe between them.
Eddie going to volunteer harder for Cuala!!
Quote from: Dinny Breen on December 03, 2020, 09:59:58 PM
Eddie going to volunteer harder for Cuala!!
Just like Jack O'Connor is volunteering for Kildare
Quote from: sid waddell on December 03, 2020, 11:11:09 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on December 03, 2020, 09:59:58 PM
Eddie going to volunteer harder for Cuala!!
Just like Jack O'Connor is volunteering for Kildare
Jack's volunteering is not good enough, he needs to volunteer harder. Disgraceful volunteering, he really needs to step up.
Quote from: sid waddell on December 03, 2020, 11:11:09 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on December 03, 2020, 09:59:58 PM
Eddie going to volunteer harder for Cuala!!
Just like Jack O'Connor is volunteering for Kildare
You know one of those teams is a county, the other's a club, right?
Conor Mortimer is volunteering to coach Monasternevin. Very good appointment.
Ahhhh that's nice.
Quote from: Rossfan on December 08, 2020, 10:50:15 AM
Ahhhh that's nice.
Sean Dempsey volunteering with Ballinteer above in Dublin
Quote from: sid waddell on December 04, 2020, 01:22:23 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on December 04, 2020, 01:16:26 PM
Quote from: sid waddell on December 03, 2020, 11:11:09 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on December 03, 2020, 09:59:58 PM
Eddie going to volunteer harder for Cuala!!
Just like Jack O'Connor is volunteering for Kildare
You know one of those teams is a county, the other's a club, right?
And?
And.............. that club has more money than that county.
Cosy
https://sportforbusiness.com/cuala-and-amgen-break-new-partnership-ground/ (https://sportforbusiness.com/cuala-and-amgen-break-new-partnership-ground/)
(https://sportforbusiness.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/1716676-1280x640.jpg)
Nice cosy collection there. Using Croke Park and the GAA President for the presentation of their new Sponsor!
As Jimmy Magee would say ''Different Class''
Quote from: From the Bunker on December 09, 2020, 09:28:11 PM
Cosy
https://sportforbusiness.com/cuala-and-amgen-break-new-partnership-ground/ (https://sportforbusiness.com/cuala-and-amgen-break-new-partnership-ground/)
(https://sportforbusiness.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/1716676-1280x640.jpg)
The sponsorship deal doesn't even include the hurling team :o
QuoteThis includes the clubs five adult men's football teams, three adult women's football teams and three Camogie teams. The Men's Hurling team which won back to back AIB All Ireland Club Championships in 2017 and 2018 is sponsored by mobile phone company Huawei.
And if you think that is mad have a look at this
https://cualagaa.ie/sponsors/ (https://cualagaa.ie/sponsors/)
Quote from: From the Bunker on December 09, 2020, 09:40:41 PM
And if you think that is mad have a look at this
https://cualagaa.ie/sponsors/ (https://cualagaa.ie/sponsors/)
Jesus.
That is serious.
Who looks after that side of things in the club?
Quote from: Taylor on December 10, 2020, 08:25:03 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on December 09, 2020, 09:40:41 PM
And if you think that is mad have a look at this
https://cualagaa.ie/sponsors/ (https://cualagaa.ie/sponsors/)
Jesus.
That is serious.
Who looks after that side of things in the club?
Probably some poor volunteer. LOL
Quote from: Farrandeelin on December 10, 2020, 08:43:25 AM
Quote from: Taylor on December 10, 2020, 08:25:03 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on December 09, 2020, 09:40:41 PM
And if you think that is mad have a look at this
https://cualagaa.ie/sponsors/ (https://cualagaa.ie/sponsors/)
Jesus.
That is serious.
Who looks after that side of things in the club?
Probably some poor volunteer. LOL
Well if thats the case the volunteers in other clubs should work harder
Quote from: From the Bunker on December 09, 2020, 09:40:41 PM
And if you think that is mad have a look at this
https://cualagaa.ie/sponsors/ (https://cualagaa.ie/sponsors/)
When you are reaching All Ireland finals, getting sponsorship isn't that difficult in fairness, you'll find that the contacts are usually in the club
Cuala one of the affluent clubs in the country. You will probably find club committee members working high enough up in these companies or are friends with people high enough up in these companies to bring them on board as sponsors. Very different to a rural country club when the main sponsor is the lad who offers/can afford to buy the new set of jerseys for the coming year.
Quote from: reillycavan on December 13, 2020, 07:33:28 PM
I see Colm restaurant closed in Portlaoise. Did daddy fund that as well as paying for his for 4 colleges in 4 years. Didn't he get a few bob playing for a dublin club?
I believe it's the partner's restaurant not Woolys. And it's closed a long time. Joys of having kids I imagine. Are you bitter or something reillycavan?
Quote from: reillycavan on December 13, 2020, 08:14:30 PM
Quote from: Helix. on December 13, 2020, 08:08:53 PM
Quote from: reillycavan on December 13, 2020, 07:33:28 PM
I see Colm restaurant closed in Portlaoise. Did daddy fund that as well as paying for his for 4 colleges in 4 years. Didn't he get a few bob playing for a dublin club?
I believe it's the partner's restaurant not Woolys. And it's closed a long time. Joys of having kids I imagine. Are you bitter or something reillycavan?
Agreed. Eddie's after landing on his feet with Cuala job so he'll be alright. Still not convinced it was a deliberate throwing under the bus from Woolie.
Not a fan of how he threw Eddie under a bus
Quote from: reillycavan on December 13, 2020, 07:33:28 PM
I see Colm restaurant closed in Portlaoise. Did daddy fund that as well as paying for his for 4 colleges in 4 years. Didn't he get a few bob playing for a dublin club?
What a ridiculous post.
Quote from: reillycavan on December 13, 2020, 07:33:28 PM
I see Colm restaurant closed in Portlaoise. Did daddy fund that as well as paying for his for 4 colleges in 4 years. Didn't he get a few bob playing for a dublin club?
Doesn't matter what you think of someone. If you are going to gloat about a small family business collapsing during a pandemic, then kindly go away and cop yourself on.
Quote from: Snapchap on December 13, 2020, 10:47:02 PM
Quote from: reillycavan on December 13, 2020, 07:33:28 PM
Doesn't matter what you think of someone. If you are going to gloat about a small family business collapsing during a pandemic, then kindly go away and cop yourself on.
+1
Quote from: Snapchap on December 13, 2020, 10:47:02 PM
Quote from: reillycavan on December 13, 2020, 07:33:28 PM
I see Colm restaurant closed in Portlaoise. Did daddy fund that as well as paying for his for 4 colleges in 4 years. Didn't he get a few bob playing for a dublin club?
Doesn't matter what you think of someone. If you are going to gloat about a small family business collapsing during a pandemic, then kindly go away and cop yourself on.
It was a bad joke. I have removed post.
Quote from: reillycavan on December 13, 2020, 11:41:43 PM
Quote from: Snapchap on December 13, 2020, 10:47:02 PM
Quote from: reillycavan on December 13, 2020, 07:33:28 PM
I see Colm restaurant closed in Portlaoise. Did daddy fund that as well as paying for his for 4 colleges in 4 years. Didn't he get a few bob playing for a dublin club?
Doesn't matter what you think of someone. If you are going to gloat about a small family business collapsing during a pandemic, then kindly go away and cop yourself on.
It was a bad joke. I have removed post.
Fair dues.
Quote from: Never beat the deeler on December 13, 2020, 11:17:31 PM
Quote from: Snapchap on December 13, 2020, 10:47:02 PM
Quote from: reillycavan on December 13, 2020, 07:33:28 PM
Doesn't matter what you think of someone. If you are going to gloat about a small family business collapsing during a pandemic, then kindly go away and cop yourself on.
+1
+1
Methinks this idiot who posted this, is now onto his sixth or seventh alias. Not difficult to figure out who it is.
Quote from: joemamas on December 14, 2020, 04:38:54 PM
Quote from: Never beat the deeler on December 13, 2020, 11:17:31 PM
Quote from: Snapchap on December 13, 2020, 10:47:02 PM
Quote from: reillycavan on December 13, 2020, 07:33:28 PM
Doesn't matter what you think of someone. If you are going to gloat about a small family business collapsing during a pandemic, then kindly go away and cop yourself on.
+1
+1
Methinks this idiot who posted this, is now onto his sixth or seventh alias. Not difficult to figure out who it is.
It was a bad joke apologies
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 10, 2020, 09:06:18 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on December 09, 2020, 09:40:41 PM
And if you think that is mad have a look at this
https://cualagaa.ie/sponsors/ (https://cualagaa.ie/sponsors/)
When you are reaching All Ireland finals, getting sponsorship isn't that difficult in fairness, you'll find that the contacts are usually in the club
I think it's reasonable to accept what you say is true but it can't be denied either that sponsorshi is a major incomne stream for Cuala and many other Dublin clubs.
A source of revenue that is out of boundsfor smaller clubs and that includses the vast majority of rural units.
Another plus foor larger clubs is membership dues.
I was half tuned intoo to an OTB podcast recently when this topic was raised and one of the presentrers (McStay?) said he had been told by a Cuala club member that a family membership cost him €486 this year.
Given the large number of members in the bigger Dublin clubs that amounts to serious income by any standard.
All of which raises a question...
Why are Dublin clubs hogging the investment money coming from HQ year on year.
On a pure economy of scale basis, it should take less money to look after a team from, say. Cuala or Vincents than the likes of Ballintubber or Castlebar Mitchels.
I mention Mayo clubs because (in 2015) Mayo got €22 per registered player whereas Dublin got €274 for the same reason. Dublin clubs don't have the expense of bringing players long distances to get them assembled either.
Without going into the pros and cons of Dublin's present dominance of intercounty football, the case for better support for rural clubs is there, plain to be seen.
Quote from: Lar Naparka on December 14, 2020, 08:55:19 PM
I mention Mayo clubs because (in 2015) Mayo got €22 per registered player whereas Dublin got €274 for the same reason. Dublin clubs don't have the expense of bringing players long distances to get them assembled either.
Without going into the pros and cons of Dublin's present dominance of intercounty football, the case for better support for rural clubs is there, plain to be seen.
I don't know if it's accidental or deliberate, but it is completely disingenuous to break down games development funding by registered player. The correct analysis would be by primary school child. The funding doesn't go to coaching registered players.
The funding Cuala, for example, receives in games development funding goes to 50% of a coach, and that means he/she has to spend 50% of his time with primary school children. They take PE classes in schools in the area teaching kids the basics - equally broken down between girls and boys and football and hurling.
The other 50%, that is funded by Cuala members, is purely for the benefit of Cuala, and would generally be coaching kids up to the time they join teams, where parents take over.
Quote from: Hound on December 16, 2020, 07:38:29 AM
Quote from: Lar Naparka on December 14, 2020, 08:55:19 PM
I mention Mayo clubs because (in 2015) Mayo got €22 per registered player whereas Dublin got €274 for the same reason. Dublin clubs don't have the expense of bringing players long distances to get them assembled either.
Without going into the pros and cons of Dublin's present dominance of intercounty football, the case for better support for rural clubs is there, plain to be seen.
I don't know if it's accidental or deliberate, but it is completely disingenuous to break down games development funding by registered player. The correct analysis would be by primary school child. The funding doesn't go to coaching registered players.
The funding Cuala, for example, receives in games development funding goes to 50% of a coach, and that means he/she has to spend 50% of his time with primary school children. They take PE classes in schools in the area teaching kids the basics - equally broken down between girls and boys and football and hurling.
The other 50%, that is funded by Cuala members, is purely for the benefit of Cuala, and would generally be coaching kids up to the time they join teams, where parents take over.
I'd be interested to know why you think the development money should be allocated per primary school child. I spent over three decades teaching at this level and I know how hard it is to get children interested in Gaelic games to the extent where they are interested enough to join a local club.
I'm not up to speed o what's happening in schools in general at present but I do know that the take up is generally low. In other words, the number of schools partaking are in the minority.
Certainly, the initiative is a laudable one as it raises the GAA profile in a school but translating that into active participation is quite another matter.
I think I mentioned to you before that throughout my teaching career I persuaded less than a half dozen kids to join Erin's Isle, the neighbourhood club and, AFAIK, most left after one season. Since the foundation of the state, thousands of dedicated teachers, both lay and religious, tried hard to promote Gaelic games in Primary Schools with underwhelming success.
I can't see development money being well spent here. On the other hand, if the money should be spent on children who are already club members, I think there would be a better return. It would be a case of preaching to the converted rather than trawling for recruits.
But, putting all that aside, i can't see why Dublin gets more than 12 times the amount Mayo gets for development aid, regardless of the metric you care to mention.
Dublin does not get 12 times per child more than Mayo gets in development funding!
You could say they get 12 times more per adult player than Mayo, but that would utterly disingenuous given none of the funding has anything to do with adult players.
The purpose of the development funding in Dublin is to increase participation. That's why the condition attaches that for 50% funding, 50% of the time spent has to be with primary school children. Whether that's money well spent is another issue entirely.
The developement funding has practically nothing to do with Dublin's success. But nobody seems to listen to that. Even those country people on here who are involved in Dublin clubs and know full well that (the vast majority of) these coaches work with the toddlers and aren't let near first team players or elite youths.
Dublin's real advantages are population and lack of traveling. Add in lack of away games. Add in a county board who knows what they're doing. Further down the list comes sponsorship money and therefore the ability to look after players very well, but the likes of Mayo and Kerry get plenty of that too and look after their players very well also. They have spend more of their budget on travel expenses though.
Quote from: Hound on December 16, 2020, 01:20:18 PM
Dublin does not get 12 times per child more than Mayo gets in development funding!
You could say they get 12 times more per adult player than Mayo, but that would utterly disingenuous given none of the funding has anything to do with adult players.
The purpose of the development funding in Dublin is to increase participation. That's why the condition attaches that for 50% funding, 50% of the time spent has to be with primary school children. Whether that's money well spent is another issue entirely.
The developement funding has practically nothing to do with Dublin's success. But nobody seems to listen to that. Even those country people on here who are involved in Dublin clubs and know full well that (the vast majority of) these coaches work with the toddlers and aren't let near first team players or elite youths.
Dublin's real advantages are population and lack of traveling. Add in lack of away games. Add in a county board who knows what they're doing. Further down the list comes sponsorship money and therefore the ability to look after players very well, but the likes of Mayo and Kerry get plenty of that too and look after their players very well also. They have spend more of their budget on travel expenses though.
While I would disagree with your view Hound it is quite refreshing to hear a Dub saying some of the above things and you make some really sound points in the above
I remember when this debate was being had back in 2018, it came out that Dublin has less Games Promotion officers per capita than the rest of Leinster
And that Roscommon were receiving around three times more development funding per capita than Dublin
This doesn't suit the narrative
Quote from: Hound on December 16, 2020, 01:20:18 PM
Dublin does not get 12 times per child more than Mayo gets in development funding!
You could say they get 12 times more per adult player than Mayo, but that would utterly disingenuous given none of the funding has anything to do with adult players.
The purpose of the development funding in Dublin is to increase participation. That's why the condition attaches that for 50% funding, 50% of the time spent has to be with primary school children. Whether that's money well spent is another issue entirely.
The development funding has practically nothing to do with Dublin's success. But nobody seems to listen to that. Even those country people on here who are involved in Dublin clubs and know full well that (the vast majority of) these coaches work with the toddlers and aren't let near first team players or elite youths.
Dublin's real advantages are population and lack of traveling. Add in lack of away games. Add in a county board who knows what they're doing. Further down the list comes sponsorship money and therefore the ability to look after players very well, but the likes of Mayo and Kerry get plenty of that too and look after their players very well also. They have spend more of their budget on travel expenses though.
There's an infographic doing the rounds that purports to show just what I have stated. It has surfaced on this board on numerous occasions and I know it's to be found on the Money, Dublin and the GAA thread in several posts.
I haven't the time to go trawling for it now but I do know that the author is Shane Mangan. (https://www.reddit.com/r/GAA/comments/aog1gx/check_out_what_your_county_received_in/) ("PhD in Sport Science. Lecturer TUD. Performance Analyst Ballyboden St. Endas" according to Twitter.
So his credentials seem valid enough to me.
More to the point, I can't recall anyone here disputing the veracity of his stats. The same applies to Ewan McKenna.
I have long given up reading his tweets as the quality and accuracy of his work seems to be deteriorating steadily.
But his allegations of financial doping were never challenged - on this board anyway.
Either his figures are facts or they are fiction- his personal opinions don't enter the picture.
The article in question can be found here (https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/ewan-mackenna-paraic-duffy-and-the-gaa-have-made-dublin-a-financially-doped-outfit-and-there-is-no-defence-for-this-scandal-36530924.html).
I'd imagine SkySports are a reputable organisation and not prone to wild and inaccurate statements. Your mileage may vary on this-- there may be others who'd disagree.)
(This was published on 05/02/15.)
GAA: Dublin claiming more development funds than other 31 counties combined
Figures released in the 2014 financial report show that Dublin received more funding for games development than the other 31 counties combined.
Dublin received €1.46m for games development, while many of the smaller counties such as Leitrim, Longford and Monaghan received just €39,000.....
The full article is here. (https://www.skysports.com/gaa/gaelic-football/news/30553/9700643/gaa-dublin-claiming-more-development-funds-than-other-31-counties-combined)
There is a graphic on Reddit that claims that Dublin got €17,916,477 between 2007 and 2018.
(Incidentally, Mayo got €718,780 in the same period.)
Credit is given to Sean McGoldrick, a reporter with the Sunday World.
The Reddit link is
here. (https://www.reddit.com/r/GAA/comments/aog1gx/check_out_what_your_county_received_in/)
I'm not moaning on behalf of Mayo when I compare both counties-- it's just that they are meeting on equal terms at the weekend. Mayo don't give a f**k for Dublin or anyone else and are quite happy to take Dublin on at any time. That's what Andy Moran saids and no one in Mayo will disagree with that!
As for involvement in schools, I am all for it. The priority should be to get as many kids as possible to participate in physical activity. If the GAA can help in this regard, I'd be happy to say that I agree.
But I've been there and done that as the old saying puts it and I don't see the GAA getting a worthwhile return on their investment of time and money.
I was still teaching with this initiative was first introduced and in my school two young Fas apprentices did two coaching sessions every week. This was after school hours so those attending had an interest in Gaelic football.
Going in during school time to take over PE classes doesn't work in all cases- probably in a minority.
Not all children are interested in Gaelic games and in any event, teachers have curriculum duties to consider. Spending 100% of PE time on gaelic games is a definite non-runner in the vast majority of cases.
When the coaching schemes was introduced, the coaches were Fas apprentices and paid the going rate
I don't know if the rate has been increased since then but if it has, it can't be by much.
Anyway, the nub of the question for me is the manner in which development money is spent and I'm not thinking of Dublin in particular.
Quote from: sid waddell on December 16, 2020, 05:12:15 PM
I remember when this debate was being had back in 2018, it came out that Dublin has less Games Promotion officers per capita than the rest of Leinster
And that Roscommon were receiving around three times more development funding per capita than Dublin
This doesn't suit the narrative
Didn't spot this until now.
Mind quoting your sources?
Quote from: Lar Naparka on December 16, 2020, 05:33:17 PM
Quote from: sid waddell on December 16, 2020, 05:12:15 PM
I remember when this debate was being had back in 2018, it came out that Dublin has less Games Promotion officers per capita than the rest of Leinster
And that Roscommon were receiving around three times more development funding per capita than Dublin
This doesn't suit the narrative
Didn't spot this until now.
Mind quoting your sources?
https://twitter.com/SeanMcGoldrick1/status/1037767275921727488
Last year the Dublin County Board earned €1.46m in commercial/ sponsorship deals as against Roscommon's £168,053. Croke Park also allocated Dublin €1.2m for coaching/development; Roscommon received £168,053.The GAA's lopsided financial model is the elephant in the room #GAA
https://twitter.com/Woolberto/status/1038017031881326594
They are. The games development money is spent on games development officers. Dublin have 90, rest of Leinster 89. They work in the schools but also clubs
Quote from: sid waddell on December 16, 2020, 10:16:44 PM
Quote from: Lar Naparka on December 16, 2020, 05:33:17 PM
Quote from: sid waddell on December 16, 2020, 05:12:15 PM
I remember when this debate was being had back in 2018, it came out that Dublin has less Games Promotion officers per capita than the rest of Leinster
And that Roscommon were receiving around three times more development funding per capita than Dublin
This doesn't suit the narrative
Didn't spot this until now.
Mind quoting your sources?
https://twitter.com/SeanMcGoldrick1/status/1037767275921727488
Last year the Dublin County Board earned €1.46m in commercial/ sponsorship deals as against Roscommon's £168,053. Croke Park also allocated Dublin €1.2m for coaching/development; Roscommon received £168,053.The GAA's lopsided financial model is the elephant in the room #GAA
https://twitter.com/Woolberto/status/1038017031881326594
They are. The games development money is spent on games development officers. Dublin have 90, rest of Leinster 89. They work in the schools but also clubs
Fair enough, sid. I'll take a closer look at those references tomorrow but you, at least of all the Dubs in general, is prepared to quote sources to back up your arguments.
I see online buff egans going up against wooly for comments he made about the conditioning of Mikey Boyle, should organise a celebrity boxing match
Quote from: MoChara on December 16, 2020, 10:56:52 PM
I see online buff egans going up against wooly for comments he made about the conditioning of Mikey Boyle, should organise a celebrity boxing match
Any more on this??
Poor stuff there on twitter from Stephen Poacher.
He should be above rubbish like that
And Wooly's response to Poacher:
Wow. If you're sending me that personal stuff Imagine what you said the the Laois players while running on to the field. Which you deny if course. Scum
:o
Quote from: FermGael on December 21, 2020, 11:43:22 AM
Poor stuff there on twitter from Stephen Poacher.
He should be above rubbish like that
Poacher showing his true colours there. That's pathetic.
Edit: I see poacher has now deleted his post.
What did Poacher say? He seems to have deleted his tweet.
Quote from: galwayman on December 21, 2020, 12:06:08 PM
What did Poacher say? He seems to have deleted his tweet.
Said something along the lines of everyone has off days and to have a good Christmas then put a picture up of a newspaper article from 2004 when Parkinson was guilty of assault.
Quote from: FermGael on December 21, 2020, 11:43:22 AM
Poor stuff there on twitter from Stephen Poacher.
He should be above rubbish like that
What was said?
Quote from: square_ball on December 21, 2020, 12:15:02 PM
Quote from: galwayman on December 21, 2020, 12:06:08 PM
What did Poacher say? He seems to have deleted his tweet.
Said something along the lines of everyone has off days and to have a good Christmas then put a picture up of a newspaper article from 2004 when Parkinson was guilty of assault.
Is it really that bad?
Parkinson is a loudmouth, I don't see too much harm in him getting some back particularly if he was found guilty!
Is Poacher using the distraction tactic after Down's poor show in minors?
Quote from: marty34 on December 21, 2020, 12:43:57 PM
Is Poacher using the distraction tactic after Down's poor show in minors?
Parkinson started it by saying "1-04... in the entire game. Minors. I'm looking forward to Poacher telling us how great a coach he is in his next column"
Then Poacher reacted saying everyone has the odd bad day and linked the article. Now deleted.
Both are controversial types. Poacher seemed to be always in rows when he was coach with Carlow.
Not that Parkinson is much better. Off the ball crew seemed happy when he left the show
Parkinson has a bit of a neck to be playing the victim here.
His comments were every bit as classless as Poacher's.
Yeah can't have too much sympathy there when he instigated a tit-for-tat.
Colm is drumming great publicity for his show with these spats
Did wooly go west to play football in the US after 2004?
Quote from: caprea on December 21, 2020, 06:05:25 PM
Did wooly go west to play football in the US after 2004?
Thought was 05. He called micko the greatest manager of all a buffer. Micko dropped him a couple times for discipline reasons
Quote from: reillycavan on December 21, 2020, 06:24:48 PM
Quote from: caprea on December 21, 2020, 06:05:25 PM
Did wooly go west to play football in the US after 2004?
Thought was 05. He called micko the greatest manager of all a buffer. Micko dropped him a couple times for discipline reasons
Wonder how he managed to go to the US with that with assault conviction
Quote from: caprea on December 21, 2020, 06:39:41 PM
Quote from: reillycavan on December 21, 2020, 06:24:48 PM
Quote from: caprea on December 21, 2020, 06:05:25 PM
Did wooly go west to play football in the US after 2004?
Thought was 05. He called micko the greatest manager of all a buffer. Micko dropped him a couple times for discipline reasons
Wonder how he managed to go to the US with that with assault conviction
https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/arid-20403233.html
Boston in 05. Dont think he was convicted.
I see Conan Doherty has left the show. Was a good skin.
Quote from: reillycavan on December 30, 2020, 09:40:39 PM
I see Conan Doherty has left the show. Was a good skin.
Where's he off to?
Quote from: marty34 on December 30, 2020, 09:41:49 PM
Quote from: reillycavan on December 30, 2020, 09:40:39 PM
I see Conan Doherty has left the show. Was a good skin.
Where's he off to?
I don't know. He just had on Twitter he finished up.
Quote from: marty34 on December 30, 2020, 09:41:49 PM
Quote from: reillycavan on December 30, 2020, 09:40:39 PM
I see Conan Doherty has left the show. Was a good skin.
Where's he off to?
Virgin media as a producer.
Likeable fella he's done well for himself considering nobody from Derry City knows anything about GAA ;) I wish him well!
Quote from: screenexile on December 31, 2020, 10:13:51 AM
Quote from: marty34 on December 30, 2020, 09:41:49 PM
Quote from: reillycavan on December 30, 2020, 09:40:39 PM
I see Conan Doherty has left the show. Was a good skin.
Where's he off to?
Virgin media as a producer.
Likeable fella he's done well for himself considering nobody from Derry City knows anything about GAA ;) I wish him well!
Ach come on,low blow there
Parkinson stepping down from GAA hour. A decent podcast.
His tweet today implied that it wasn't his decision and he's basically been asked to step down, for whatever reason.
Quote from: Silver hill on December 04, 2021, 07:43:06 PM
His tweet today implied that it wasn't his decision and he's basically been asked to step down, for whatever reason.
Didn't read that into it at all
He said he'd given his notice and was very happy they are allowing him to work his notice so he can do one more show.
He said he's sad to leave GAA hour, but that it's not his show, it's SportsJoe's show. So perhaps intimating that he wanted to take it in a different direction than JOE does.
Can't remember the background, but did he sell the rights to GAA hour to JOE at some stage?
Anyway, not the first gig he's left and seems like he's something else lined up.
He's an absolute dick in my opinion, but darn good at GAA podcasts.
Spending more time promoting the deeply racist gript website rather than his own employers might have played a part.
Quote from: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on December 05, 2021, 09:27:56 PM
Spending more time promoting the deeply racist gript website rather than his own employers might have played a part.
Parkinson is good on GAA, knowledgable yet entertaining, full of slagging and a bit of craic.
His right leaning political views on the other hand...
I can't imagine the money is great working for these smaller media organisations.
They regularly let people go.
Just realized this has stopped. Are there plans to revive it with someone else as presenter.
He has his own podcast now behind a paywall, a fiver a month, minimum 16 shows a month. Only started on Feb 1 behind the paywall, but good value for money imo. Smaller fish its called on patreon
Quote from: ardtole on February 04, 2022, 10:43:26 AM
He has his own podcast now behind a paywall, a fiver a month, minimum 16 shows a month. Only started on Feb 1 behind the paywall, but good value for money imo. Smaller fish its called on patreon
I do like his show but i haven't paid yet. Will see if i miss it. On one hand it's only a 5er, on the other not sure i want to support this model. If i paid a 5er for every podcast i listened to it would be a significant cost every month. On top of netflix, sky, prime etc
I signed up - it's the only podcast I pay for at the moment.
I think he could do with replacing Ger Brennan though, he drones on and on, isn't a good speaker and not all that insightful either imo.
I subscribed today, been listening to the podcast for years. Its worth it because of the volume of shows and the quality guests. Although I have no real interest in hurling part of it. I might give the other stuff like Oz interviews a listen.
I agree with Mario in one sense. Its actually €6.15 a month because it adds on VAT, still not too bad. But I already subscribe to the Wearecavan podcast for same price. Then recently I subscribed to the Gaelic Life digital edition for around the same price. I liked reading the actual newspaper of the Gaelic Life but I think its online only now? It's not great layout online but I'll probably keep it a few months. Not much altogether but much more and it would add up.
I don't really mind though throwing a few bob to it though because realistically they're mostly small operations and they wouldn't be feasible otherwise.
Charging? One would need to be paid to listen to Parkinson.
Quote from: Tubberman on February 04, 2022, 03:01:43 PM
I think he could do with replacing Ger Brennan though, he drones on and on, isn't a good speaker and not all that insightful either imo.
Oh agree completely, if he had anything interesting to say you could excuse the fact that he's not a good speaker but his points are generally nonsense as well. Cian Ward is excellent in comparison.
Have to agree, Cian Ward is very good. Even though Im not as much into the hurling, I enjoy all the contributors to the hurling side of things.
I think he will do well out off it, it helps my commute home go a bit quicker so im happy enough to tune in.
Quote from: Mario on February 04, 2022, 02:26:59 PM
Quote from: ardtole on February 04, 2022, 10:43:26 AM
He has his own podcast now behind a paywall, a fiver a month, minimum 16 shows a month. Only started on Feb 1 behind the paywall, but good value for money imo. Smaller fish its called on patreon
I do like his show but i haven't paid yet. Will see if i miss it. On one hand it's only a 5er, on the other not sure i want to support this model. If i paid a 5er for every podcast i listened to it would be a significant cost every month. On top of netflix, sky, prime etc
I'm in the same boat myself. It was probably the podcast I listened to the most but haven't taken the plunge to pay for it yet.
All of the various things are starting to add up between the basic Sky, Netflix, Disney+, Spotify etc.
I held off on subscribing to second captains for the same reason.
I might take the plunge in this one yet tho will see.
He has 1800 subscribers so far so not too bad going for the first few days of it. €9k a month is decent notwithstanding whatever he pays out to the contributors he has on it. I'll probably take the plunge and pay for it during the county season anyway. The preview and review shows are excellent. Aaron Kernan is very good as well. Would agree on Ger Brennan and would add Brendan Devenney to that as well.
OTB show with Paddy Andrews and James O'Donoghue is just ok but the presenter is awful.
It's on Spotify.
First month was. Not any more.
Quote from: galwayman on February 04, 2022, 08:01:26 PM
Quote from: Mario on February 04, 2022, 02:26:59 PM
Quote from: ardtole on February 04, 2022, 10:43:26 AM
He has his own podcast now behind a paywall, a fiver a month, minimum 16 shows a month. Only started on Feb 1 behind the paywall, but good value for money imo. Smaller fish its called on patreon
I do like his show but i haven't paid yet. Will see if i miss it. On one hand it's only a 5er, on the other not sure i want to support this model. If i paid a 5er for every podcast i listened to it would be a significant cost every month. On top of netflix, sky, prime etc
I'm in the same boat myself. It was probably the podcast I listened to the most but haven't taken the plunge to pay for it yet.
All of the various things are starting to add up between the basic Sky, Netflix, Disney+, Spotify etc.
I held off on subscribing to second captains for the same reason.
I might take the plunge in this one yet tho will see.
Signed up myself and I think this will be the only one I sign up to. People always do the 'sure it's only the price or a pint' line. But as you say, all the direct debits add up! I like the show and never really miss an episode. I've even warmed to Conan!
Nice wee earner for Wooly so hopefully he invests in it and makes it even better.
He is one of two I have on Patreon. Some of the ones he does I will have no interest in but the preview and review shows are always good
I've yet to hear a football podcast as good as Colm Parkinson's. OTB's Football Pod can be decent but the personalities are a bit much at times.
Quote from: greatpoint on February 05, 2022, 03:37:04 PM
I've yet to hear a football podcast as good as Colm Parkinson's. OTB's Football Pod can be decent but the personalities are a bit much at times.
I have signed up for Woolys podcast, in Cian Ward he has imho one of the best analysts out there , agree on OTB it can be good at times (when Paddy Andrews gives someone else a chance to get a word in )
Well lads. Just wondering what this has been like since it went behind the pay wall.
Considering signing up.
Has it been any good? Many shows a week now?
Cheers
Quote from: Newbridge Exile on February 05, 2022, 05:17:10 PM
Quote from: greatpoint on February 05, 2022, 03:37:04 PM
I've yet to hear a football podcast as good as Colm Parkinson's. OTB's Football Pod can be decent but the personalities are a bit much at times.
I have signed up for Woolys podcast, in Cian Ward he has imho one of the best analysts out there , agree on OTB it can be good at times (when Paddy Andrews gives someone else a chance to get a word in )
Andrews brings everything back to himself. I stopped listening to it. Always turns into stories about him and Dublin. Grand if your a dub listening I suppose.
Quote from: snoopdog on March 25, 2022, 06:47:38 AM
Quote from: Newbridge Exile on February 05, 2022, 05:17:10 PM
Quote from: greatpoint on February 05, 2022, 03:37:04 PM
I've yet to hear a football podcast as good as Colm Parkinson's. OTB's Football Pod can be decent but the personalities are a bit much at times.
I have signed up for Woolys podcast, in Cian Ward he has imho one of the best analysts out there , agree on OTB it can be good at times (when Paddy Andrews gives someone else a chance to get a word in )
Andrews brings everything back to himself. I stopped listening to it. Always turns into stories about him and Dublin. Grand if your a dub listening I suppose.
Yeah Andrews is really grating on me at this stage. A real loudmouth who talks over JOD a lot.
Woolys is good, but I'm not interested in the hurling show or irish down under, so I only listen to the football pod.
Quote from: galwayman on March 25, 2022, 06:06:27 AM
Well lads. Just wondering what this has been like since it went behind the pay wall.
Considering signing up.
Has it been any good? Many shows a week now?
Cheers
I have signed up to it and he has about 5 shows a week out depending if there's a football/hurling weekend on. I only really listen to the football one but Aaron Kernan, Cian Ward and Eamon Callaghan are well worth a listen. Has had some good 1 to 1 interviews with different people like Ruby Walsh and Kevin Doyle which have been good and he had a very good one with the London manager a few weeks ago. I'll stick with it until the county season wraps up then play it by ear after that.
The Irish Examiner do a good pod the Monday after league games with Paul Rouse and Oisin McConville and then AN Other. Marty Clarke was very good on Monday past. I've listened to the first 2 new GAA Hour episodes with Darren O'Sullivan. It's OK but nowhere near the level Wooly had it at.
Some of the BBC GAA Social podcasts are very good. Niblock and McConville have guests on and let them do the talking. Laverty's after the Kilcoo win was as good an hour of a podcast as I've ever listened to.
Notable others were Rory Gallagher and Shane McGuigan.
I just can't have Wooly at all.
Quote from: screenexile on March 25, 2022, 11:17:05 AM
Some of the BBC GAA Social podcasts are very good. Niblock and McConville have guests on and let them do the talking. Laverty's after the Kilcoo win was as good an hour of a podcast as I've ever listened to.
Notable others were Rory Gallagher and Shane McGuigan.
I just can't have Wooly at all.
Second that.
Niblock & McConville are absolutely streets ahead of Wolly.
Reminds me of Mckenna - clickbait/shockjock and will say anything to get a bit of attention.
Quote from: snoopdog on March 25, 2022, 06:47:38 AM
Quote from: Newbridge Exile on February 05, 2022, 05:17:10 PM
Quote from: greatpoint on February 05, 2022, 03:37:04 PM
I've yet to hear a football podcast as good as Colm Parkinson's. OTB's Football Pod can be decent but the personalities are a bit much at times.
I have signed up for Woolys podcast, in Cian Ward he has imho one of the best analysts out there , agree on OTB it can be good at times (when Paddy Andrews gives someone else a chance to get a word in )
Andrews brings everything back to himself. I stopped listening to it. Always turns into stories about him and Dublin. Grand if your a dub listening I suppose.
Did wooly himself ever play intercounty or play for any high profile managers?
Quote from: screenexile on March 25, 2022, 11:17:05 AM
Some of the BBC GAA Social podcasts are very good. Niblock and McConville have guests on and let them do the talking. Laverty's after the Kilcoo win was as good an hour of a podcast as I've ever listened to.
Notable others were Rory Gallagher and Shane McGuigan.
I just can't have Wooly at all.
Nordie man prefers Nordie content shocker!!!
Quote from: laoislad on March 25, 2022, 01:55:59 PM
Quote from: screenexile on March 25, 2022, 11:17:05 AM
Some of the BBC GAA Social podcasts are very good. Niblock and McConville have guests on and let them do the talking. Laverty's after the Kilcoo win was as good an hour of a podcast as I've ever listened to.
Notable others were Rory Gallagher and Shane McGuigan.
I just can't have Wooly at all.
Nordie man prefers Nordie content shocker!!!
Or it could be that he doesn't want to pay to listen to Colm talk rubbish.
Quote from: rosnarun on March 25, 2022, 01:53:58 PM
Quote from: snoopdog on March 25, 2022, 06:47:38 AM
Quote from: Newbridge Exile on February 05, 2022, 05:17:10 PM
Quote from: greatpoint on February 05, 2022, 03:37:04 PM
I've yet to hear a football podcast as good as Colm Parkinson's. OTB's Football Pod can be decent but the personalities are a bit much at times.
I have signed up for Woolys podcast, in Cian Ward he has imho one of the best analysts out there , agree on OTB it can be good at times (when Paddy Andrews gives someone else a chance to get a word in )
Andrews brings everything back to himself. I stopped listening to it. Always turns into stories about him and Dublin. Grand if your a dub listening I suppose.
Did wooly himself ever play intercounty or play for any high profile managers?
Played a decade with Laois seniors, was part of the panel that won the Leinster title in 2003. Won Leinster U21 title in 1998 and Minor All-Ireland in 1996.
He played under Mick O'Dwyer as well.
Brendan Devenney's podcast is decent, albeit obviously very Donegal-centric.
If your county is playing Donegal though, he'll have someone on to chat from there.
Last few weeks he's had Peter Canavan, Paul Finlay, Joe McMahon and John Casey.
Think he'd Wooly on about a month ago to push HIS podcast! I'm guessing Wooly did the same for Devenney at some point.
ah yeah, wooly was on the mayo-focused Ah Ref podcast as well. Doing the rounds I'd say.
Ah Ref is v good for Mayo talk, don't take themselves too seriously, more like a conversation you'd have over a few pints, but with people who actually have a notion what they're talking about.
Quote from: Blowitupref on March 25, 2022, 06:41:25 PM
Played a decade with Laois seniors, was part of the panel that won the Leinster title in 2003. Won Leinster U21 title in 1998 and Minor All-Ireland in 1996.
Quote from: ardtole on March 25, 2022, 06:46:55 PM
He played under Mick O'Dwyer as well.
Ah lads - it's clear rosnarun was taking the piss given how frequently Parkinson mentions his time with Laois and time under Micko.
I laughed at your comment rosnarun.
Quote from: twohands!!! on March 25, 2022, 08:15:28 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on March 25, 2022, 06:41:25 PM
Played a decade with Laois seniors, was part of the panel that won the Leinster title in 2003. Won Leinster U21 title in 1998 and Minor All-Ireland in 1996.
thats all right , i forget how you some of these lads are
anyway I think ,micko had him convinced he was the best player he ever coached .
Quote from: ardtole on March 25, 2022, 06:46:55 PM
He played under Mick O'Dwyer as well.
Ah lads - it's clear rosnarun was taking the piss given how frequently Parkinson mentions his time with Laois and time under Micko.
I laughed at your comment rosnarun.
I can't have Wooly at all, find him very unlikeable although I still listen to his Podcasts. Digs so deep to find negatives and is a moaning wee hoore.
I quite like James O'Donoghue on 'The Football Pod' He's good craic and quite insightful. Paddy Andrews is OK too, but a bit too slabbery at times, i'd say by the end of a night out with him you'd be happy to get home.
I also like Eamon McGee on the GAA hour. Usually not scared to shy away from a controversial opinion and calls a spade a spade. Finian Hanley is good aswell although Darren O'Sullivan must be one of the most boring people ever and nearly makes it boring to listen to.
Thomas Niblock & McConville are good on the GAA social, i like the angle of the Podcast where they quiz a certain individual and dig deep.
Quote from: twohands!!! on March 25, 2022, 08:15:28 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on March 25, 2022, 06:41:25 PM
Played a decade with Laois seniors, was part of the panel that won the Leinster title in 2003. Won Leinster U21 title in 1998 and Minor All-Ireland in 1996.
Quote from: ardtole on March 25, 2022, 06:46:55 PM
He played under Mick O'Dwyer as well.
Ah lads - it's clear rosnarun was taking the piss given how frequently Parkinson mentions his time with Laois and time under Micko.
I laughed at your comment rosnarun.
Just catching up on the last couple of pages here and wanted to see if I was the only one who spotted that! ;D
I enjoy Wooly's podcasts. He has some great guests and they get right into the nitty gritty. He is not from one of the challenging counties so there is no bias. Most of the big voices in the media have potential for an ulterior motive so you always have to read between the lines.
The thing is, I disagree with Parkinson as often as I agree with him, but that's the point. He has opinions and there are valid reasons for most of them. When he has a dislike for someone, he comes out and says it so you can factor that in when listening!
Agree though, that he has used up his store of stories from his playing days (eg the story about the physio treating a tear as a cramp and making it worse. I've heard that 5 times) so he needs to focus more on anecdotes from other people to make it relevant to recent players.
Find it hard to listen to Ger Brennan at times. He seems to just repeat the question back with a lot more words, uses a lot of generalisms and quite often loses himself in the middle of sentences. I often zone out and forget what the question was. He seems like a nice lad, but it feels like he is concentrating too much on formal wording instead of just saying what he means. Aaron Kernan and Cian Ward are the opposite - just say what they mean in plain speak - and are v insightful
I love Wooly's podcast. He isn't everyone's cup of tea and he makes a lot of silly calls but that's all part of it. I don't listen to agree with everything he says. He has some good guests and some of the segments are quite funny. Oisin and Thomas Niblock have a good podcast and seem to work well with each other. The GAA hour is still finding its feet however I think it'll come good when the lads find their feet. They're insightful and obviously have a lot of experience with the current game.
Quote from: laoislad on March 25, 2022, 01:55:59 PM
Quote from: screenexile on March 25, 2022, 11:17:05 AM
Some of the BBC GAA Social podcasts are very good. Niblock and McConville have guests on and let them do the talking. Laverty's after the Kilcoo win was as good an hour of a podcast as I've ever listened to.
Notable others were Rory Gallagher and Shane McGuigan.
I just can't have Wooly at all.
Nordie man prefers Nordie content shocker!!!
Laois shittalker defends Laois shittalker shocker!!!
What grates with me about Wooly's show (at least when he was with The GAA Hour) is that he always had guests who agreed with every word he said on any topic. There never was any sort of two sided debate to be had on anything.
I recall when the debate was raging about the upcoming vote on championship restructuring a while back, and when everyone was pushing 'Proposal B' Cahair O'Kane was a guest on Off the Ball, and he was actually arguing against the ratification of Proposal B - saying that as a proposal, it was 'almost' spot on but that we shouldn't settle for 'almost' and that it will be generations before it will ever be revisited, so it needs to be done right. He made a great argument, and the debate between him and the presenter who was in favour of Proposal B was properly interesting. It was a proper delve into the pros and cons of Proposal B.
Then I listened to The GAA Hour. Wooly went on one of his lengthy rants about how stupid it would be to not back Proposal B, then threw out a few personal digs at people who were opposing it, then he brought on his guest Conor Henehan and the two of them spent the guts of a half hour or more agreeing with eachother and making the same points. No debate whatsoever. It was just tedious stuff.
Haven't listened to his new show, because I can't imagine it being any different.
Don't listen to Parkinson, use to enjoy it but, as some as said, he ended up him just repeating same stories and opinions and the guests agreeing. He certainly has cast himself as been edgy and out there and plays that game. Can be very petty at times - slating other reporters, RTE coverage, refs, admin etc without ever having to do anything about it. His new subscribers seem to be onboard so more power to him and he has an audience
The examiner Podcast is very good. Good range of views and bit more substance to it. Puts a bit of meat to a story and develops it rather than just going off a newspaper report.
GAA social has been a great listen this year. Not purely a preview/review type show but a interview with interesting characters and not afraid to let them talk and then dig a bit. Looking forward to listening to Mulroy this week. They don't just go after the big names but those with a story to tell.
Quote from: Louther on March 30, 2022, 11:41:16 AM
Don't listen to Parkinson, use to enjoy it but, as some as said, he ended up him just repeating same stories and opinions and the guests agreeing. He certainly has cast himself as been edgy and out there and plays that game. Can be very petty at times - slating other reporters, RTE coverage, refs, admin etc without ever having to do anything about it. His new subscribers seem to be onboard so more power to him and he has an audience
The examiner Podcast is very good. Good range of views and bit more substance to it. Puts a bit of meat to a story and develops it rather than just going off a newspaper report.
GAA social has been a great listen this year. Not purely a preview/review type show but a interview with interesting characters and not afraid to let them talk and then dig a bit. Looking forward to listening to Mulroy this week. They don't just go after the big names but those with a story to tell.
GAA social best by a mile.
Yeah that is a big thing - they let them talk.
Your one McGee is some pup. Crying about Armagh and demanding suspensions before cship game in April.. James O'D also spilled on his podcast that McGee snapped a Kerry players finger out of place during a league game.
Not the brightest pair of brothers all the same.
Wooly and the GAA social are the top pods for me. The football pod with Tommy Rooney was excellent when Andy Moran was on it, it was worth putting up with Paddy Andrews to listen to Andy.
Quote from: 5times5times on March 30, 2022, 12:31:37 PM
Your one McGee is some pup. Crying about Armagh and demanding suspensions before cship game in April.. James O'D also spilled on his podcast that McGee snapped a Kerry players finger out of place during a league game.
Not the brightest pair of brothers all the same.
Can't stand McGee, was a very dirty player yet acts holier than tho and often tweeting rubbish.
Has a serious hatred for Cavan, I don't know why or what from. It was long before we upset Donegal in the Ulster final. Even his new podcast started off with him mocking Cavan for being in Division 4 and other rubbish. We are a small enough county, what's his problem?
Also why must every GAA podcast and RTE analysis be filled with Dublin and Kerry pundits? That's why I prefer the Ulster analysis and Woolys podcast. At least different counties are represented.
RTE now even have female Dublin pundits hired ahead of other counties and brought in Fitzmaurice too. Gooch Cooper and now Darran O'Sullivan two more fairly boring Kerry pundits.
Just typical of GAA and GAA media coverage, they don't give a flying f**k about anything barring Dublin, Kerry and Mayo.
Quote from: full moon on March 30, 2022, 12:59:33 PM
Quote from: 5times5times on March 30, 2022, 12:31:37 PM
Your one McGee is some pup. Crying about Armagh and demanding suspensions before cship game in April.. James O'D also spilled on his podcast that McGee snapped a Kerry players finger out of place during a league game.
Not the brightest pair of brothers all the same.
Can't stand McGee, was a very dirty player yet acts holier than tho and often tweeting rubbish.
Has a serious hatred for Cavan, I don't know why or what from. It was long before we upset Donegal in the Ulster final. Even his new podcast started off with him mocking Cavan for being in Division 4 and other rubbish. We are a small enough county, what's his problem?
Take it as a compliment, if he thought you should be in Div 4 he wouldn't be mocking you.
Quote from: full moon on March 30, 2022, 12:59:33 PM
Quote from: 5times5times on March 30, 2022, 12:31:37 PM
Your one McGee is some pup. Crying about Armagh and demanding suspensions before cship game in April.. James O'D also spilled on his podcast that McGee snapped a Kerry players finger out of place during a league game.
Not the brightest pair of brothers all the same.
Can't stand McGee, was a very dirty player yet acts holier than tho and often tweeting rubbish.
Has a serious hatred for Cavan, I don't know why or what from. It was long before we upset Donegal in the Ulster final. Even his new podcast started off with him mocking Cavan for being in Division 4 and other rubbish. We are a small enough county, what's his problem?
To be fair it was hilarious that Cavan got relegated to Division 4 by Wicklow, shortly after winning the Ulster Championship.
Quote from: Snapchap on March 30, 2022, 10:06:43 AM
What grates with me about Wooly's show (at least when he was with The GAA Hour) is that he always had guests who agreed with every word he said on any topic. There never was any sort of two sided debate to be had on anything.
I recall when the debate was raging about the upcoming vote on championship restructuring a while back, and when everyone was pushing 'Proposal B' Cahair O'Kane was a guest on Off the Ball, and he was actually arguing against the ratification of Proposal B - saying that as a proposal, it was 'almost' spot on but that we shouldn't settle for 'almost' and that it will be generations before it will ever be revisited, so it needs to be done right. He made a great argument, and the debate between him and the presenter who was in favour of Proposal B was properly interesting. It was a proper delve into the pros and cons of Proposal B.
Then I listened to The GAA Hour. Wooly went on one of his lengthy rants about how stupid it would be to not back Proposal B, then threw out a few personal digs at people who were opposing it, then he brought on his guest Conor Henehan and the two of them spent the guts of a half hour or more agreeing with eachother and making the same points. No debate whatsoever. It was just tedious stuff.
Haven't listened to his new show, because I can't imagine it being any different.
Yes his view on Proposal B was it was great not open for debate and I'll throw mud at anyone that was against it.
Cahair O'Kane gave a solid argument why it probably wouldn't be voted in and a lot of those issues have been corrected in the Green format that gets under way next year.
Each to their own i suppose but I'm not sure why people would pay to listen to Parkinson.
how many Gaa/s pod cast are still free .
the 3 i mainly listened to . The mayo news Wooly and Second captains are all gone behind the pay wall and its getting very expensive.
i will probably drop Second captains who seem to disappearing up their own arses between live shows and sharing their less thought through political shows . if i wanted a political podcast i would not be looking to Ken Early to provide it. not to mention them bring in one of their brothers 'to do the Rugby'
and Far too much soccer anyway
Quote from: rosnarun on March 30, 2022, 04:06:29 PM
how many Gaa/s pod cast are still free .
the 3 i mainly listened to . The mayo news Wooly and Second captains are all gone behind the pay wall and its getting very expensive.
i will probably drop Second captains who seem to disappearing up their own arses between live shows and sharing their less thought through political shows . if i wanted a political podcast i would not be looking to Ken Early to provide it. not to mention them bring in one of their brothers 'to do the Rugby'
and Far too much soccer anyway
That's most likely because Ken Early only seems to have any interest in or knowledge of soccer - no other sport.
Quote from: 5times5times on March 30, 2022, 12:31:37 PM
Your one McGee is some pup. Crying about Armagh and demanding suspensions before cship game in April.. James O'D also spilled on his podcast that McGee snapped a Kerry players finger out of place during a league game.
Not the brightest pair of brothers all the same.
That was Neil McGee who tried to break Alan Fitzgerald finger.
https://m.facebook.com/HumansofGAA/videos/donegal-defender-neil-mcgee-faces-an-anxious-wait-to-see-if-he/955904071195024/
Does the BBC GAA podcast primarily focus on teams from the six counties?
Quote from: greatpoint on May 17, 2022, 01:10:14 AM
Does the BBC GAA podcast primarily focus on teams from the six counties?
No it's much more specific than that
Concentrates on Tyrone , Derry, Armagh and Antrim
Quote from: greatpoint on May 17, 2022, 01:10:14 AM
Does the BBC GAA podcast primarily focus on teams from the six counties?
Darren Hughes was the guest for a full hour only a week ago, going over his career highs and lows
A great listen.
Quote from: rosnarun on March 30, 2022, 04:06:29 PM
how many Gaa/s pod cast are still free .
the 3 i mainly listened to . The mayo news Wooly and Second captains are all gone behind the pay wall and its getting very expensive.
i will probably drop Second captains who seem to disappearing up their own arses between live shows and sharing their less thought through political shows . if i wanted a political podcast i would not be looking to Ken Early to provide it. not to mention them bring in one of their brothers 'to do the Rugby'
and Far too much soccer anyway
The football pod is pretty good. Paddy Andrews and James O"Donoghue (replaced Andy Moran). Sticks to football, some great insights into what goes on at the top level and the committment these guys have given to get to where they are.
Quote from: FermGael on May 17, 2022, 06:24:58 AM
Quote from: greatpoint on May 17, 2022, 01:10:14 AM
Does the BBC GAA podcast primarily focus on teams from the six counties?
No it's much more specific than that
Concentrates on Tyrone , Derry, Armagh and Antrim
It's crying out for a quigley.
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 17, 2022, 07:50:59 AM
Quote from: FermGael on May 17, 2022, 06:24:58 AM
Quote from: greatpoint on May 17, 2022, 01:10:14 AM
Does the BBC GAA podcast primarily focus on teams from the six counties?
No it's much more specific than that
Concentrates on Tyrone , Derry, Armagh and Antrim
It's crying out for a quigley.
Yeah very true as to the selection of counties. But it's still a very good listen.
Quote from: imtommygunn on May 17, 2022, 07:50:59 AM
Quote from: FermGael on May 17, 2022, 06:24:58 AM
Quote from: greatpoint on May 17, 2022, 01:10:14 AM
Does the BBC GAA podcast primarily focus on teams from the six counties?
No it's much more specific than that
Concentrates on Tyrone , Derry, Armagh and Antrim
It's crying out for a quigley.
I think Cathair O'Kane did a good interview (written) with Quigley a few weeks ago in the Irish News.
Decent read.
I like the ones where they get a bit more detail about the person/background rather than just gaa chat.
Tomas O'Se has a very good pod with Jimmy McGuinness.
https://podtail.com/en/podcast/comhra-le-tomas/s3-ep2-jim-mcguinness/
Quote from: rosnarun on March 30, 2022, 04:06:29 PM
how many Gaa/s pod cast are still free .
the 3 i mainly listened to . The mayo news Wooly and Second captains are all gone behind the pay wall and its getting very expensive.
i will probably drop Second captains who seem to disappearing up their own arses between live shows and sharing their less thought through political shows . if i wanted a political podcast i would not be looking to Ken Early to provide it. not to mention them bring in one of their brothers 'to do the Rugby'
and Far too much soccer anyway
I like SC as I enjoy soccer too but I find the rugby coverage nauseating to be honest and their GAA coverage sub par nowadays. They don't cover it enough when it's on, and when they do cover it, it's the same craic: You can't rule out Mayo, the Dubs the Dubs the Dubs, will Kerry finally win it. It's some version of those three topics every time. I heard on their free pod yesterday they covered mostly the hurling, but when they moved on to the football it was just about Meath being steamrolled by Dublin. So I imagine the football pod with Paul Flynn and McConville this week will focus on how terrible the Leinster championship is.
I'm not a hurling man really but they've barely mentioned the hurling championship either. No preview shows about any of the big matches and only really comment after a great game has happened.
On the topic, I can't listen to Wooly to be honest. He was a welcome addition to the media landscape because it helped shake things up and bring more podcasts and coverage, but as a few have mentioned, he only ever has guests agreeing with every single thing he's saying so it's just a boring listen I find.
Ditched SC long ago. Love themselves!
Quote from: JoeSoap on May 17, 2022, 11:24:09 AM
Quote from: rosnarun on March 30, 2022, 04:06:29 PM
how many Gaa/s pod cast are still free .
the 3 i mainly listened to . The mayo news Wooly and Second captains are all gone behind the pay wall and its getting very expensive.
i will probably drop Second captains who seem to disappearing up their own arses between live shows and sharing their less thought through political shows . if i wanted a political podcast i would not be looking to Ken Early to provide it. not to mention them bring in one of their brothers 'to do the Rugby'
and Far too much soccer anyway
I like SC as I enjoy soccer too but I find the rugby coverage nauseating to be honest and their GAA coverage sub par nowadays. They don't cover it enough when it's on, and when they do cover it, it's the same craic: You can't rule out Mayo, the Dubs the Dubs the Dubs, will Kerry finally win it. It's some version of those three topics every time. I heard on their free pod yesterday they covered mostly the hurling, but when they moved on to the football it was just about Meath being steamrolled by Dublin. So I imagine the football pod with Paul Flynn and McConville this week will focus on how terrible the Leinster championship is.
I'm not a hurling man really but they've barely mentioned the hurling championship either. No preview shows about any of the big matches and only really comment after a great game has happened.
On the topic, I can't listen to Wooly to be honest. He was a welcome addition to the media landscape because it helped shake things up and bring more podcasts and coverage, but as a few have mentioned, he only ever has guests agreeing with every single thing he's saying so it's just a boring listen I find.
I cancelled my Second captains this week for more or less the same reasons, I thought it was just me but there has been less and less GAA content recently and I can only take so much of Ken Early to be honest ,
Quote from: Walter Cronc on May 17, 2022, 08:25:44 AM
Tomas O'Se has a very good pod with Jimmy McGuinness.
https://podtail.com/en/podcast/comhra-le-tomas/s3-ep2-jim-mcguinness/
Go raibh maith agat, I didn't know Tomás' pod was back, I enjoy those conversations.
Quote from: Newbridge Exile on May 17, 2022, 01:18:04 PM
Quote from: JoeSoap on May 17, 2022, 11:24:09 AM
Quote from: rosnarun on March 30, 2022, 04:06:29 PM
how many Gaa/s pod cast are still free .
the 3 i mainly listened to . The mayo news Wooly and Second captains are all gone behind the pay wall and its getting very expensive.
i will probably drop Second captains who seem to disappearing up their own arses between live shows and sharing their less thought through political shows . if i wanted a political podcast i would not be looking to Ken Early to provide it. not to mention them bring in one of their brothers 'to do the Rugby'
and Far too much soccer anyway
I like SC as I enjoy soccer too but I find the rugby coverage nauseating to be honest and their GAA coverage sub par nowadays. They don't cover it enough when it's on, and when they do cover it, it's the same craic: You can't rule out Mayo, the Dubs the Dubs the Dubs, will Kerry finally win it. It's some version of those three topics every time. I heard on their free pod yesterday they covered mostly the hurling, but when they moved on to the football it was just about Meath being steamrolled by Dublin. So I imagine the football pod with Paul Flynn and McConville this week will focus on how terrible the Leinster championship is.
I'm not a hurling man really but they've barely mentioned the hurling championship either. No preview shows about any of the big matches and only really comment after a great game has happened.
On the topic, I can't listen to Wooly to be honest. He was a welcome addition to the media landscape because it helped shake things up and bring more podcasts and coverage, but as a few have mentioned, he only ever has guests agreeing with every single thing he's saying so it's just a boring listen I find.
I cancelled my Second captains this week for more or less the same reasons, I thought it was just me but there has been less and less GAA content recently and I can only take so much of Ken Early to be honest ,
definitely not just you it's felt like a real shift in their coverage since last year to be honest. I stick with them because sometimes they'll bring a pod out on some sport story I'll know nothing about and it can be a brilliant listen, but I've been disappointed with the GAA coverage to say the least. It got pretty entertaining last year when they first had Paul Flynn on and McConville called him out for his nonsense about media bias against Dublin, but since then it's been pretty poor. They just seem disappointed that Tyrone won the All-Ireland and that Mayo and the Dubs seem to be on the downward - maybe the coverage will pick up now that the Dubs are "back".
Hi all,
For anyone that might be interested, the Players Voice is a free podcast that takes listeners inside the minds of some of Ireland's most inspiring inter-county GAA players as they share important lessons from life on and off the field.
Guests so far have included Tom Parsons (Mayo), Séadna and Chloe Morey (Clare), Kate Keaney (Donegal), Louise Galvin (Kerry), Conn Kilpatrick (Tyrone), Neil McManus (Antrim), Dean Siney (Wicklow), Aisling Maher (Dublin). We have covered a range of issues including concussion, gambling addiction, leadership, sport/life balance, entrepeneurship, inclusivity, equality diversity and much more.
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/71B3t0dCxe2QBhSCb9pbVw?si=b51f71a8d2d74355&nd=1
Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-players-voice/id1428632729
SoundCloud: https://soundcloud.com/theplayersvoice-ie
Quote from: Real Talker on May 17, 2022, 04:28:14 PM
Hi all,
For anyone that might be interested, the Players Voice is a free podcast that takes listeners inside the minds of some of Ireland's most inspiring inter-county GAA players as they share important lessons from life on and off the field.
Guests so far have included Tom Parsons (Mayo), Séadna and Chloe Morey (Clare), Kate Keaney (Donegal), Louise Galvin (Kerry), Conn Kilpatrick (Tyrone), Neil McManus (Antrim), Dean Siney (Wicklow), Aisling Maher (Dublin). We have covered a range of issues including concussion, gambling addiction, leadership, sport/life balance, entrepeneurship, inclusivity, equality diversity and much more.
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/71B3t0dCxe2QBhSCb9pbVw?si=b51f71a8d2d74355&nd=1
Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-players-voice/id1428632729
SoundCloud: https://soundcloud.com/theplayersvoice-ie
Good stuff Real Talker.
Must get listening to them over the next few weeks.
Quote from: JoeSoap on May 17, 2022, 01:27:05 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on May 17, 2022, 08:25:44 AM
Tomas O'Se has a very good pod with Jimmy McGuinness.
https://podtail.com/en/podcast/comhra-le-tomas/s3-ep2-jim-mcguinness/
Go raibh maith agat, I didn't know Tomás' pod was back, I enjoy those conversations.
He done one with Colin Corkery during lockdown I think, it was absoloutely hilarious, Tomas was laughing so hard, I couldnt help laughing. The story about pre season training in the afl is well worth a listen. The Kevin Moran interview was very good too.
I heard the Corkery story a while back.
Legend of a player.
How would he fit in these days with those unbelievable skills but weight issues? I suppose the Quigleys can do it, so why not him?
The GAA hour with Darren O'Sullivan is starting to grow on me, Barry Cahill and Eamon Magee are decent analysts
Quote from: Newbridge Exile on May 18, 2022, 01:34:32 PM
The GAA hour with Darren O'Sullivan is starting to grow on me, Barry Cahill and Eamon Magee are decent analysts
Darren can be a bit dry but it's a more enjoyable listen than OTB's Football Pod.
Quote from: greatpoint on May 18, 2022, 05:42:11 PM
Quote from: Newbridge Exile on May 18, 2022, 01:34:32 PM
The GAA hour with Darren O'Sullivan is starting to grow on me, Barry Cahill and Eamon Magee are decent analysts
Darren can be a bit dry but it's a more enjoyable listen than OTB's Football Pod.
I was the same about the football pod. Paddy Andrews just grinded my gears but starting to grow on me. JOD offers some good insight into forward play, movement etc which I enjoy.
does joe brolly have a pod
Seen Wooly took quite the hissy fit over a bit of mild criticism from Cahair O'Kane last week.
O'Kane wrote a column criticising the media outlets who he thought were overly harsh on Eugene Brannigan, saying:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FSYQGQxWUAAVNou?format=jpg&name=medium)
Wooly went all out, calling Cahair names ("mediocre Cahair"), accused him of defamation, took a pop at his aunt for defending him and also took a pop at his employer, The Irish News. For a fella who loves to dish out the attacks and settle old scores through his podcast, he seems remarkably sensitive to anybody who dares criticise him!
Quote from: square_ball on May 18, 2022, 09:28:48 PM
Don't see why he wouldn't have a go back at O'Kane when he's used his column to have an unnecessary pop at him. Plenty criticised Brannigan yet O'Kane picked Parkinson out.
No issue with him defending himself, but claiming he was defamed? Name calling? Taking jibes at Cahair's family and employer? Bit OTT.
Quote from: Snapchap on May 18, 2022, 10:12:03 PM
Quote from: square_ball on May 18, 2022, 09:28:48 PM
Don't see why he wouldn't have a go back at O'Kane when he's used his column to have an unnecessary pop at him. Plenty criticised Brannigan yet O'Kane picked Parkinson out.
No issue with him defending himself, but claiming he was defamed? Name calling? Taking jibes at Cahair's family and employer? Bit OTT.
funny thing is parkinson spent far more time off the laois panel over hissy fits, going to the us being dropped and breaching squad rules than he ever did on it . his the kind of player that would have no place in the modern game any way
Quote from: Snapchap on May 18, 2022, 08:06:31 PM
Seen Wooly took quite the hissy fit over a bit of mild criticism from Cahair O'Kane last week.
O'Kane wrote a column criticising the media outlets who he thought were overly harsh on Eugene Brannigan, saying:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FSYQGQxWUAAVNou?format=jpg&name=medium)
Wooly went all out, calling Cahair names ("mediocre Cahair"), accused him of defamation, took a pop at his aunt for defending him and also took a pop at his employer, The Irish News. For a fella who loves to dish out the attacks and settle old scores through his podcast, he seems remarkably sensitive to anybody who dares criticise him!
You took that piece as him criticising media outlets generally? I think you're being kind to O'Kane there for whatever reason, to me it certainly came across like he had an axe to grind. O'Kane called Parkinson out by name and appeared to make light of how he makes a living. I would have held O'Kane in a higher regard than Parkinson journalistically, I think it was fairly petty from him.
Quote from: greatpoint on May 19, 2022, 04:09:36 PM
Quote from: Snapchap on May 18, 2022, 08:06:31 PM
Seen Wooly took quite the hissy fit over a bit of mild criticism from Cahair O'Kane last week.
O'Kane wrote a column criticising the media outlets who he thought were overly harsh on Eugene Brannigan, saying:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FSYQGQxWUAAVNou?format=jpg&name=medium)
Wooly went all out, calling Cahair names ("mediocre Cahair"), accused him of defamation, took a pop at his aunt for defending him and also took a pop at his employer, The Irish News. For a fella who loves to dish out the attacks and settle old scores through his podcast, he seems remarkably sensitive to anybody who dares criticise him!
You took that piece as him criticising media outlets generally? I think you're being kind to O'Kane there for whatever reason, to me it certainly came across like he had an axe to grind. O'Kane called Parkinson out by name and appeared to make light of how he makes a living. I would have held O'Kane in a higher regard than Parkinson journalistically, I think it was fairly petty from him.
Yeah, seemed to a bit personal when he mentioned Parkinson specifically plus the €5 subscription.
Quote from: marty34 on May 19, 2022, 04:52:30 PM
Quote from: greatpoint on May 19, 2022, 04:09:36 PM
Quote from: Snapchap on May 18, 2022, 08:06:31 PM
Seen Wooly took quite the hissy fit over a bit of mild criticism from Cahair O'Kane last week.
O'Kane wrote a column criticising the media outlets who he thought were overly harsh on Eugene Brannigan, saying:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FSYQGQxWUAAVNou?format=jpg&name=medium)
Wooly went all out, calling Cahair names ("mediocre Cahair"), accused him of defamation, took a pop at his aunt for defending him and also took a pop at his employer, The Irish News. For a fella who loves to dish out the attacks and settle old scores through his podcast, he seems remarkably sensitive to anybody who dares criticise him!
You took that piece as him criticising media outlets generally? I think you're being kind to O'Kane there for whatever reason, to me it certainly came across like he had an axe to grind. O'Kane called Parkinson out by name and appeared to make light of how he makes a living. I would have held O'Kane in a higher regard than Parkinson journalistically, I think it was fairly petty from him.
Yeah, seemed to a bit personal when he mentioned Parkinson specifically plus the €5 subscription.
A bit personal? Have yous ever listened to Wooly's output?? Personal attacks are his bread & butter ffs! He seems to have a real grudge against Stephen Poacher in particular, and the digs he takes at him from the comfort of a podcast are fairy cowardly/childish. If it were someone else, then O'Kane may have been out of order, but for Wooly to get precious about personal attacks, well that's just ridiculous.
Though in saying that, if he was insulted then that's fair enough, but how childish is it to respond by claiming possible defamation, name calling, and petty remarks about O'Kane's family and employer? Childish stuff.
Quote from: Snapchap on May 20, 2022, 09:32:54 AM
Quote from: marty34 on May 19, 2022, 04:52:30 PM
Quote from: greatpoint on May 19, 2022, 04:09:36 PM
Quote from: Snapchap on May 18, 2022, 08:06:31 PM
Seen Wooly took quite the hissy fit over a bit of mild criticism from Cahair O'Kane last week.
O'Kane wrote a column criticising the media outlets who he thought were overly harsh on Eugene Brannigan, saying:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FSYQGQxWUAAVNou?format=jpg&name=medium)
Wooly went all out, calling Cahair names ("mediocre Cahair"), accused him of defamation, took a pop at his aunt for defending him and also took a pop at his employer, The Irish News. For a fella who loves to dish out the attacks and settle old scores through his podcast, he seems remarkably sensitive to anybody who dares criticise him!
You took that piece as him criticising media outlets generally? I think you're being kind to O'Kane there for whatever reason, to me it certainly came across like he had an axe to grind. O'Kane called Parkinson out by name and appeared to make light of how he makes a living. I would have held O'Kane in a higher regard than Parkinson journalistically, I think it was fairly petty from him.
Yeah, seemed to a bit personal when he mentioned Parkinson specifically plus the €5 subscription.
A bit personal? Have yous ever listened to Wooly's output?? Personal attacks are his bread & butter ffs! He seems to have a real grudge against Stephen Poacher in particular, and the digs he takes at him from the comfort of a podcast are fairy cowardly/childish. If it were someone else, then O'Kane may have been out of order, but for Wooly to get precious about personal attacks, well that's just ridiculous.
Though in saying that, if he was insulted then that's fair enough, but how childish is it to respond by claiming possible defamation, name calling, and petty remarks about O'Kane's family and employer? Childish stuff.
You've just repeated what you've already said without addressing anything in my post whatsoever.
Quote from: greatpoint on May 20, 2022, 03:02:17 PM
Quote from: Snapchap on May 20, 2022, 09:32:54 AM
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Quote from: greatpoint on May 19, 2022, 04:09:36 PM
Quote from: Snapchap on May 18, 2022, 08:06:31 PM
Seen Wooly took quite the hissy fit over a bit of mild criticism from Cahair O'Kane last week.
O'Kane wrote a column criticising the media outlets who he thought were overly harsh on Eugene Brannigan, saying:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FSYQGQxWUAAVNou?format=jpg&name=medium)
Wooly went all out, calling Cahair names ("mediocre Cahair"), accused him of defamation, took a pop at his aunt for defending him and also took a pop at his employer, The Irish News. For a fella who loves to dish out the attacks and settle old scores through his podcast, he seems remarkably sensitive to anybody who dares criticise him!
You took that piece as him criticising media outlets generally? I think you're being kind to O'Kane there for whatever reason, to me it certainly came across like he had an axe to grind. O'Kane called Parkinson out by name and appeared to make light of how he makes a living. I would have held O'Kane in a higher regard than Parkinson journalistically, I think it was fairly petty from him.
Yeah, seemed to a bit personal when he mentioned Parkinson specifically plus the €5 subscription.
A bit personal? Have yous ever listened to Wooly's output?? Personal attacks are his bread & butter ffs! He seems to have a real grudge against Stephen Poacher in particular, and the digs he takes at him from the comfort of a podcast are fairy cowardly/childish. If it were someone else, then O'Kane may have been out of order, but for Wooly to get precious about personal attacks, well that's just ridiculous.
Though in saying that, if he was insulted then that's fair enough, but how childish is it to respond by claiming possible defamation, name calling, and petty remarks about O'Kane's family and employer? Childish stuff.
You've just repeated what you've already said without addressing anything in my post whatsoever.
The photo is of just a section of the column. The column as a whole WAS about media outlets generally. He used Wooly as an example. Like I say, you can call it uncalled for if you like - I'm not trying to saying whether O'Kane was right or wrong- it doesn't change my point that Woolys reaction was still over the top, petty and childish. Not to mention hypocritical in the extreme, given his own penchant for making personal attacks on people.
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Quote from: greatpoint on May 19, 2022, 04:09:36 PM
Quote from: Snapchap on May 18, 2022, 08:06:31 PM
Seen Wooly took quite the hissy fit over a bit of mild criticism from Cahair O'Kane last week.
O'Kane wrote a column criticising the media outlets who he thought were overly harsh on Eugene Brannigan, saying:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FSYQGQxWUAAVNou?format=jpg&name=medium)
Wooly went all out, calling Cahair names ("mediocre Cahair"), accused him of defamation, took a pop at his aunt for defending him and also took a pop at his employer, The Irish News. For a fella who loves to dish out the attacks and settle old scores through his podcast, he seems remarkably sensitive to anybody who dares criticise him!
You took that piece as him criticising media outlets generally? I think you're being kind to O'Kane there for whatever reason, to me it certainly came across like he had an axe to grind. O'Kane called Parkinson out by name and appeared to make light of how he makes a living. I would have held O'Kane in a higher regard than Parkinson journalistically, I think it was fairly petty from him.
Yeah, seemed to a bit personal when he mentioned Parkinson specifically plus the €5 subscription.
A bit personal? Have yous ever listened to Wooly's output?? Personal attacks are his bread & butter ffs! He seems to have a real grudge against Stephen Poacher in particular, and the digs he takes at him from the comfort of a podcast are fairy cowardly/childish. If it were someone else, then O'Kane may have been out of order, but for Wooly to get precious about personal attacks, well that's just ridiculous.
Though in saying that, if he was insulted then that's fair enough, but how childish is it to respond by claiming possible defamation, name calling, and petty remarks about O'Kane's family and employer? Childish stuff.
You've just repeated what you've already said without addressing anything in my post whatsoever.
The photo is of just a section of the column. The column as a whole WAS about media outlets generally. He used Wooly as an example. Like I say, you can call it uncalled for if you like - I'm not trying to saying whether O'Kane was right or wrong- it doesn't change my point that Woolys reaction was still over the top, petty and childish. Not to mention hypocritical in the extreme, given his own penchant for making personal attacks on people.
If the context of your post is dependent on the entire column then why not provide that instead of "just a section" that supposedly misrepresents the overall piece?
Parkinson giving out on twatter that the GAA Social podcast got some attention in the print media, what an absolute bitch that man is
Quote from: tiempo on June 29, 2022, 10:31:03 AM
Parkinson giving out on twatter that the GAA Social podcast got some attention in the print media, what an absolute bitch that man is
He only wishes his podcast was as good as the BBC's!!
He has 4k subscribers behind a paywall so he's doing alright. He needs to decide whether he wants his €20k a month or wants to remove the paywall and get the exposure, he can't have it both ways!
Quote from: tiempo on June 29, 2022, 10:31:03 AM
Parkinson giving out on twatter that the GAA Social podcast got some attention in the print media, what an absolute bitch that man is
Don't think he was giving out. Think he was happy to be in print media.
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Quote from: tiempo on June 29, 2022, 10:31:03 AM
Parkinson giving out on twatter that the GAA Social podcast got some attention in the print media, what an absolute bitch that man is
Don't think he was giving out. Think he was happy to be in print media.
Was giving out surely that the GAA Social this week got some traction in other media outlets and his didn't
The only currency Parkinson deals in now is the cult of self, I think he drops these shit views just to garner another bit of attention and potential controversy
Some lap it up, pay their subs and fair play to them, in my view its more than a bit whiney/bitchey and for that reason i'll give my subs elsewhere
I'm sure plenty of his content is A1 but dial down the victim mentality bullshit
Eugene Branagan was proved right anyway. Down are a shambles.
Quote from: screenexile on June 29, 2022, 10:52:11 AM
Quote from: tiempo on June 29, 2022, 10:31:03 AM
Parkinson giving out on twatter that the GAA Social podcast got some attention in the print media, what an absolute bitch that man is
He only wishes his podcast was as good as the BBC's!!
He has 4k subscribers behind a paywall so he's doing alright. He needs to decide whether he wants his €20k a month or wants to remove the paywall and get the exposure, he can't have it both ways!
I prefer Parkinson's to the BBC but accept it's probably not worth the fee when you can get BBC, off the ball, sportsjoe, RTE and the Irish examiner for free but i'll keep paying while Derry keep winning! I find Niblock overly dramatic/emotive sometimes, i like how straight talking wooly is even if i don't always agree with him. Cian Ward and McConville are equally excellent as number 2's.
Quote from: screenexile on June 29, 2022, 10:52:11 AM
Quote from: tiempo on June 29, 2022, 10:31:03 AM
Parkinson giving out on twatter that the GAA Social podcast got some attention in the print media, what an absolute bitch that man is
He only wishes his podcast was as good as the BBC's!!
He has 4k subscribers behind a paywall so he's doing alright. He needs to decide whether he wants his €20k a month or wants to remove the paywall and get the exposure, he can't have it both ways!
Is there a way to validate the 4k subscribers? Would strike me as extremely high.
Quote from: gallsman on June 29, 2022, 11:55:38 AM
Quote from: screenexile on June 29, 2022, 10:52:11 AM
Quote from: tiempo on June 29, 2022, 10:31:03 AM
Parkinson giving out on twatter that the GAA Social podcast got some attention in the print media, what an absolute bitch that man is
He only wishes his podcast was as good as the BBC's!!
He has 4k subscribers behind a paywall so he's doing alright. He needs to decide whether he wants his €20k a month or wants to remove the paywall and get the exposure, he can't have it both ways!
Is there a way to validate the 4k subscribers? Would strike me as extremely high.
It tells you on the Patreon app. It's definitely true.
Quote from: Mario on June 29, 2022, 11:54:22 AM
Quote from: screenexile on June 29, 2022, 10:52:11 AM
Quote from: tiempo on June 29, 2022, 10:31:03 AM
Parkinson giving out on twatter that the GAA Social podcast got some attention in the print media, what an absolute bitch that man is
He only wishes his podcast was as good as the BBC's!!
He has 4k subscribers behind a paywall so he's doing alright. He needs to decide whether he wants his €20k a month or wants to remove the paywall and get the exposure, he can't have it both ways!
I prefer Parkinson's to the BBC but accept it's probably not worth the fee when you can get BBC, off the ball, sportsjoe, RTE and the Irish examiner for free. I find Niblock overly dramatic/emotive sometimes, i like how straight talking wooly is even if i don't always agree with him. Cian Ward and McConville are equally excellent as number 2's.
A unique ability to talk in bulletpoints
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Parkinson giving out on twatter that the GAA Social podcast got some attention in the print media, what an absolute bitch that man is
He only wishes his podcast was as good as the BBC's!!
He has 4k subscribers behind a paywall so he's doing alright. He needs to decide whether he wants his €20k a month or wants to remove the paywall and get the exposure, he can't have it both ways!
Is there a way to validate the 4k subscribers? Would strike me as extremely high.
It tells you on the Patreon app. It's definitely true.
Fair enough, he's doing more than alright out of it.
Still can't stand him.
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Quote from: screenexile on June 29, 2022, 10:52:11 AM
Quote from: tiempo on June 29, 2022, 10:31:03 AM
Parkinson giving out on twatter that the GAA Social podcast got some attention in the print media, what an absolute bitch that man is
He only wishes his podcast was as good as the BBC's!!
He has 4k subscribers behind a paywall so he's doing alright. He needs to decide whether he wants his €20k a month or wants to remove the paywall and get the exposure, he can't have it both ways!
I prefer Parkinson's to the BBC but accept it's probably not worth the fee when you can get BBC, off the ball, sportsjoe, RTE and the Irish examiner for free but i'll keep paying while Derry keep winning! I find Niblock overly dramatic/emotive sometimes, i like how straight talking wooly is even if i don't always agree with him. Cian Ward and McConville are equally excellent as number 2's.
Niblock is sugary and spice and all things nice
Didn't much like Wooly as a player and even less now as a pundit.
Quote from: tiempo on June 29, 2022, 10:31:03 AM
Parkinson giving out on twatter that the GAA Social podcast got some attention in the print media, what an absolute bitch that man is
Parkinson is a dose.
McConville is excellent and is by far and away the best pundit around.
Quote from: trailer on June 29, 2022, 01:24:10 PM
Quote from: tiempo on June 29, 2022, 10:31:03 AM
Parkinson giving out on twatter that the GAA Social podcast got some attention in the print media, what an absolute bitch that man is
Parkinson is a dose.
McConville is excellent and is by far and away the best pundit around.
Both posts are 100% accurate.
Imagine raking in €20k a month and still being a bellend about it
Quote from: Taylor on June 29, 2022, 01:38:11 PM
Quote from: trailer on June 29, 2022, 01:24:10 PM
Quote from: tiempo on June 29, 2022, 10:31:03 AM
Parkinson giving out on twatter that the GAA Social podcast got some attention in the print media, what an absolute bitch that man is
Parkinson is a dose.
McConville is excellent and is by far and away the best pundit around.
Both posts are 100% accurate.
Imagine raking in €20k a month and still being a bellend about it
I assume there is some advertising revenue or sponsorship as well?
Once the intercounty stuff ends the subscribers could drop off, but even so, 20k per month. Fair play to him. he left OTB went out on his own & pretty much nailed it
Quote from: God14 on June 29, 2022, 01:45:24 PM
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Quote from: trailer on June 29, 2022, 01:24:10 PM
Quote from: tiempo on June 29, 2022, 10:31:03 AM
Parkinson giving out on twatter that the GAA Social podcast got some attention in the print media, what an absolute bitch that man is
Parkinson is a dose.
McConville is excellent and is by far and away the best pundit around.
Both posts are 100% accurate.
Imagine raking in €20k a month and still being a bellend about it
I assume there is some advertising revenue or sponsorship as well?
Once the intercounty stuff ends the subscribers could drop off, but even so, 20k per month. Fair play to him. he left OTB went out on his own & pretty much nailed it
Does anyone know the breakdown? I know it is €5 to subscribe but I am sure the platform must take 20% of that. He'll obviously have different costs, equipment, software, guests etc. What would he be taking home?
Quote from: Taylor on June 29, 2022, 01:38:11 PM
Quote from: trailer on June 29, 2022, 01:24:10 PM
Quote from: tiempo on June 29, 2022, 10:31:03 AM
Parkinson giving out on twatter that the GAA Social podcast got some attention in the print media, what an absolute bitch that man is
Parkinson is a dose.
McConville is excellent and is by far and away the best pundit around.
Both posts are 100% accurate.
Imagine raking in €20k a month and still being a bellend about it
I find it very hard to believe that he is getting €20k a month for a few hours each week of talking a bit of shite about GAA. I'd say its a lot less than that and if people are willing to subscribe and pay him, well you can hardly hold that against him either. I actually like Parkinson on GAA. Doesn't take himself too seriously, will generally call a spade a spade and he is a bit of craic. He doesn't go around sucking up to players and managers like a lot of journalists do just so as to retain access. Some of his other right wing views I wouldn't be too keen on.
McConville is very good as well. Basically anyone who is informed, can articulate their points well, will actually give an opinion rather than sit on the fence for fear of offending someone and who is up for a bit of craic.
Quote from: trailer on June 29, 2022, 01:53:24 PM
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Quote from: trailer on June 29, 2022, 01:24:10 PM
Quote from: tiempo on June 29, 2022, 10:31:03 AM
Parkinson giving out on twatter that the GAA Social podcast got some attention in the print media, what an absolute bitch that man is
Parkinson is a dose.
McConville is excellent and is by far and away the best pundit around.
Both posts are 100% accurate.
Imagine raking in €20k a month and still being a bellend about it
I assume there is some advertising revenue or sponsorship as well?
Once the intercounty stuff ends the subscribers could drop off, but even so, 20k per month. Fair play to him. he left OTB went out on his own & pretty much nailed it
Does anyone know the breakdown? I know it is €5 to subscribe but I am sure the platform must take 20% of that. He'll obviously have different costs, equipment, software, guests etc. What would he be taking home?
Good question.
It must be better than OTB or maybe he has more control over the production of it.
Would guests get paid?
In fairness, there's a lot of Gaa podcasts out there these days. I'd have no preference, just listen to various ones.
I like the ones that focus on an ex-player and goes into a bit of detail about them and not only their playing careers but their lives and youth etc. Some interesting characters. Most of the rest are preview/review type podcasts.
Quote from: yellowcard on June 29, 2022, 01:53:37 PM
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Quote from: trailer on June 29, 2022, 01:24:10 PM
Quote from: tiempo on June 29, 2022, 10:31:03 AM
Parkinson giving out on twatter that the GAA Social podcast got some attention in the print media, what an absolute bitch that man is
Parkinson is a dose.
McConville is excellent and is by far and away the best pundit around.
Both posts are 100% accurate.
Imagine raking in €20k a month and still being a bellend about it
I find it very hard to believe that he is getting €20k a month for a few hours each week of talking a bit of shite about GAA. I'd say its a lot less than that and if people are willing to subscribe and pay him, well you can hardly hold that against him either. I actually like Parkinson on GAA. Doesn't take himself too seriously, will generally call a spade a spade and he is a bit of craic. He doesn't go around sucking up to players and managers like a lot of journalists do just so as to retain access. Some of his other right wing views I wouldn't be too keen on.
McConville is very good as well. Basically anyone who is informed, can articulate their points well, will actually give an opinion rather than sit on the fence for fear of offending someone and who is up for a bit of craic.
He must have overheads to pay. Patreom itself. Guests. Cost of production. I had a look there. He has 4038 subscribers. And yes, I am one of them.
Delighted to see Wooly do well, even more so that people begrudge him.
Jealousy is an awful thing.
He's laughing all the way to the bank. Good on him.
Quote from: Turf on June 29, 2022, 03:40:21 PM
Delighted to see Wooly do well, even more so that people begrudge him.
Jealousy is an awful thing.
He's laughing all the way to the bank. Good on him.
Good man Woolberto
FYI, Friday 2nd September 2022 - Talk About Yourself In Third Person Day
I enjoyed his podcast when it was free to air. Once it moved behind the paywall that was me finished with it.
Between Netflix, Disney for the kids, tv packages and the like I can't justify paying for podcasts on top.
All the individual monthly subs can amount to a nice sum pretty quickly.
I don't have time to listen to all the podcasts, even though I cycle an hour each way to and from work.
I just do a few of the OTB ones, including the O'Donoghue/Andrews one, Brendan Devenney's Donegal one, and the one Wooly used to do which now has Darren O'Sullivan, Eamonn McGee etc.
Devenney always has good guests on from other counties when Donegal seniors are in action. Peter Cavanan, Oisin McConville, Joe McMahon and the like.
No idea if he pays them. Or gets paid himself by Highland Radio or when he does guest spots with others.
Quote from: J70 on June 29, 2022, 04:13:13 PM
I don't have time to listen to all the podcasts, even though I cycle an hour each way to and from work.
I just do a few of the OTB ones, including the O'Donoghue/Andrews one, Brendan Devenney's Donegal one, and the one Wooly used to do which now has Darren O'Sullivan, Eamonn McGee etc.
Devenney always has good guests on from other counties when Donegal seniors are in action. Peter Cavanan, Oisin McConville, Joe McMahon and the like.
No idea if he pays them. Or gets paid himself by Highland Radio or when he does guest spots with others.
What podcast does Devenney do?
Quote from: marty34 on June 29, 2022, 05:42:18 PM
Quote from: J70 on June 29, 2022, 04:13:13 PM
I don't have time to listen to all the podcasts, even though I cycle an hour each way to and from work.
I just do a few of the OTB ones, including the O'Donoghue/Andrews one, Brendan Devenney's Donegal one, and the one Wooly used to do which now has Darren O'Sullivan, Eamonn McGee etc.
Devenney always has good guests on from other counties when Donegal seniors are in action. Peter Cavanan, Oisin McConville, Joe McMahon and the like.
No idea if he pays them. Or gets paid himself by Highland Radio or when he does guest spots with others.
What podcast does Devenney do?
https://highlandradio.com/category/dl-debate/ (https://highlandradio.com/category/dl-debate/)
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Quote from: J70 on June 29, 2022, 04:13:13 PM
I don't have time to listen to all the podcasts, even though I cycle an hour each way to and from work.
I just do a few of the OTB ones, including the O'Donoghue/Andrews one, Brendan Devenney's Donegal one, and the one Wooly used to do which now has Darren O'Sullivan, Eamonn McGee etc.
Devenney always has good guests on from other counties when Donegal seniors are in action. Peter Cavanan, Oisin McConville, Joe McMahon and the like.
No idea if he pays them. Or gets paid himself by Highland Radio or when he does guest spots with others.
What podcast does Devenney do?
https://highlandradio.com/category/dl-debate/ (https://highlandradio.com/category/dl-debate/)
Thanks.
I'd imagine most of the regular ones you see would have a fee, McConville and the likes. Maybe depends on the type of podcast it is too, if it's analytical or more of a story-telling, bitta craic sort of chat.
Fair play to Parkinson for the amount of subs he has. He's obviously not raking in the 20k all on his own but even with overheads and fees for guests etc. it'd still be a nice sum. I don't like listening to him to be honest I had gone away from the GAA Hour towards the end as I thought it was all a little "I'm right and everyone else is wrong, isn't that right Conan?"
He's carved out a following for himself though and I might subscribe to have a listen of the interviews he's done with various players and the likes of David Gough, most of the other pods don't have anything like that, it's just analysis and some of it can be very samey, mostly because McConville (as good as he is) seems to be on every one of them!
Paul Flynn can be interesting on the Second Captains pod when he gets going
Quote from: God14 on June 29, 2022, 01:45:24 PM
I assume there is some advertising revenue or sponsorship as well?
Once the intercounty stuff ends the subscribers could drop off, but even so, 20k per month. Fair play to him. he left OTB went out on his own & pretty much nailed it
Generally not. I'm on other patreon podcasts, and the whole point of paying extra is you don't gets the sponsors and ads and all that
Quote from: JoeSoap on June 29, 2022, 07:25:37 PM
Paul Flynn can be interesting on the Second Captains pod when he gets going
Flynn and McConville can be very good together but Flynn can get very wanky banging on about "culture" and the like.
Quote from: God14 on June 29, 2022, 01:45:24 PM
Quote from: Taylor on June 29, 2022, 01:38:11 PM
Quote from: trailer on June 29, 2022, 01:24:10 PM
Quote from: tiempo on June 29, 2022, 10:31:03 AM
Parkinson giving out on twatter that the GAA Social podcast got some attention in the print media, what an absolute bitch that man is
Parkinson is a dose.
McConville is excellent and is by far and away the best pundit around.
Both posts are 100% accurate.
Imagine raking in €20k a month and still being a bellend about it
I assume there is some advertising revenue or sponsorship as well?
Once the intercounty stuff ends the subscribers could drop off, but even so, 20k per month. Fair play to him. he left OTB went out on his own & pretty much nailed it
subscribers could drop off for a couple of months but then there will be county finals and provincial club championships to talk about for a while before the intercounty season starts again in January.
I have been subscribing to the smaller fish podcast from the start. Its ideal for my commute home, he has a minimum of 4 shows a week with different guests etc.
He was well over 3000 after the first few weeks so there is a steady subscriber base there. It has peaked at over 4000 now for the business end of the championship and might tail off after the county season is over.
I think he has hit a niche with his club coverage because I enjoy the club championships every bit as much as the county end of things. And id imagine the bulk of the 3000 regular subscribers are probably the same.
Have to say Aaron Kernan has been very good recently has a great insight to both club and county set ups.
Wooly is great because he can be so abrasive.
Kernan started talking today about how Armagh got "dragged into" a melee. Parkinson immediately and sternly called him out on it and let him know Armagh started the row. He also called out Joyce on his comments about the penalties and McGeeney for his messing in the press conference.
I think Colm's ability to cut to the chase and call out bullshit where he sees it sets him apart from the rest. It can go too far at times and his personal twitter account can make for grim reading but as long as he sticks to Gaa, he's more entertaining than anyone else out there.
Quote from: Westside on June 30, 2022, 07:51:15 PM
Wooly is great because he can be so abrasive.
Parkinson immediately and sternly called him out on it and let him know Armagh started the row.
It makes good media, even if it isn't true.
some of these podcasts get a bit boring at times it just all cliches suppose its better than listening to radio
Quote from: Westside on June 30, 2022, 07:51:15 PM
Wooly is great because he can be so abrasive.
Kernan started talking today about how Armagh got "dragged into" a melee. Parkinson immediately and sternly called him out on it and let him know Armagh started the row. He also called out Joyce on his comments about the penalties and McGeeney for his messing in the press conference.
I think Colm's ability to cut to the chase and call out bullshit where he sees it sets him apart from the rest. It can go too far at times and his personal twitter account can make for grim reading but as long as he sticks to Gaa, he's more entertaining than anyone else out there.
Agree 100% with everything above.
I don't pay for it, but I do miss it a bit and I think Cian Ward is the best analyst out there. Wooly cutting to the chase as laid out is a great example of when he's at the top of his game, but the shite he comes out with on social media was certainly a factor in me deciding not to pay him.
McGinley best pundit for me. Makes the tactical details understandable for mere novices.
Quote from: Walter Cronc on July 01, 2022, 08:09:00 AM
McGinley best pundit for me. Makes the tactical details understandable for mere novices.
What podcast is McGinley on?
Quote from: Westside on June 30, 2022, 07:51:15 PM
Wooly is great because he can be so abrasive.
Kernan started talking today about how Armagh got "dragged into" a melee. Parkinson immediately and sternly called him out on it and let him know Armagh started the row. He also called out Joyce on his comments about the penalties and McGeeney for his messing in the press conference.
I think Colm's ability to cut to the chase and call out bullshit where he sees it sets him apart from the rest. It can go too far at times and his personal twitter account can make for grim reading but as long as he sticks to Gaa, he's more entertaining than anyone else out there.
FS Woolly calling out the bullshit....sure he is the biggest bullshitter of them all.
Quote from: Westside on June 30, 2022, 07:51:15 PM
Wooly is great because he can be so abrasive.
Kernan started talking today about how Armagh got "dragged into" a melee. Parkinson immediately and sternly called him out on it and let him know Armagh started the row. He also called out Joyce on his comments about the penalties and McGeeney for his messing in the press conference.
I think Colm's ability to cut to the chase and call out bullshit where he sees it sets him apart from the rest. It can go too far at times and his personal twitter account can make for grim reading but as long as he sticks to Gaa, he's more entertaining than anyone else out there.
You think he's the only one who can or does do this?
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Quote from: Westside on June 30, 2022, 07:51:15 PM
Wooly is great because he can be so abrasive.
Kernan started talking today about how Armagh got "dragged into" a melee. Parkinson immediately and sternly called him out on it and let him know Armagh started the row. He also called out Joyce on his comments about the penalties and McGeeney for his messing in the press conference.
I think Colm's ability to cut to the chase and call out bullshit where he sees it sets him apart from the rest. It can go too far at times and his personal twitter account can make for grim reading but as long as he sticks to Gaa, he's more entertaining than anyone else out there.
You think he's the only one who can or does do this?
He's definitely not the only one who can, to my mind he's the only one that does. Darren O'Sullivan for example acts like he's running a focus group where there's no wrong answers.
Quote from: armaghniac on June 30, 2022, 08:35:54 PM
Quote from: Westside on June 30, 2022, 07:51:15 PM
Wooly is great because he can be so abrasive.
Parkinson immediately and sternly called him out on it and let him know Armagh started the row.
It makes good media, even if it isn't true.
A great example of the type of nonsense Wooly doesn't allow his guests to come out with. Have you listened to the podcast? He gives a very concise breakdown as to how Armagh escalated a two man row into an outright violent brawl, outlined that this is their third brawl of this year alone and McGeeney instead of stamping it out is more interested in picking on journalists and asking them if they would push back when pushed. It was almost uncomfortable the extent to which he hammered home these facts to Aaron Kiernan who was trying to skirt around the issues, great listening.
It's exactly the type of thing you want pundits to say but they usually take the sharp edges off their comments. Parkinson doesn't do that and it's what has gained him such a large following.
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Quote from: Walter Cronc on July 01, 2022, 08:09:00 AM
McGinley best pundit for me. Makes the tactical details understandable for mere novices.
What podcast is McGinley on?
He is on Off the Ball now and again. There's one with him and Billy Joe Padden (who is crap) reviewing the 1/4ers
Quote from: Walter Cronc on July 01, 2022, 12:09:31 PM
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Quote from: Walter Cronc on July 01, 2022, 08:09:00 AM
McGinley best pundit for me. Makes the tactical details understandable for mere novices.
What podcast is McGinley on?
He is on Off the Ball now and again. There's one with him and Billy Joe Padden (who is crap) reviewing the 1/4ers
Mc Ginley talks a good game anyway.
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Quote from: Westside on June 30, 2022, 07:51:15 PM
Wooly is great because he can be so abrasive.
Kernan started talking today about how Armagh got "dragged into" a melee. Parkinson immediately and sternly called him out on it and let him know Armagh started the row. He also called out Joyce on his comments about the penalties and McGeeney for his messing in the press conference.
I think Colm's ability to cut to the chase and call out bullshit where he sees it sets him apart from the rest. It can go too far at times and his personal twitter account can make for grim reading but as long as he sticks to Gaa, he's more entertaining than anyone else out there.
FS Woolly calling out the bullshit....sure he is the biggest bullshitter of them all.
Which Podcast / episode is this on?
Quote from: marty34 on July 01, 2022, 12:16:51 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on July 01, 2022, 12:09:31 PM
Quote from: screenexile on July 01, 2022, 08:14:36 AM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on July 01, 2022, 08:09:00 AM
McGinley best pundit for me. Makes the tactical details understandable for mere novices.
What podcast is McGinley on?
He is on Off the Ball now and again. There's one with him and Billy Joe Padden (who is crap) reviewing the 1/4ers
Mc Ginley talks a good game anyway.
Generally the role of a pundit alright.
Only ever paid for two podcasts on Patreon - Wooly and Second Captains. I signed up for SC 5 or 6 years ago to hear a good Kevin McStay interview at time when he was Ros manager. I gave them a fair chance but eventually had to cancel because the waffle at the beginning was unbearable and the like of thing you'd hear from some poseurs trying to be funny at a University students Union. Wooly on the other hand understands audio and keeps the show moving well with a couple of great contributors. I hope they all make a few bob.
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Quote from: marty34 on July 01, 2022, 12:16:51 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on July 01, 2022, 12:09:31 PM
Quote from: screenexile on July 01, 2022, 08:14:36 AM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on July 01, 2022, 08:09:00 AM
McGinley best pundit for me. Makes the tactical details understandable for mere novices.
What podcast is McGinley on?
He is on Off the Ball now and again. There's one with him and Billy Joe Padden (who is crap) reviewing the 1/4ers
Mc Ginley talks a good game anyway.
Generally the role of a pundit alright.
I just meant it as it didn't come across on his managerial role with Antrim. It ended quickly enough.
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Quote from: armaghniac on June 30, 2022, 08:35:54 PM
Quote from: Westside on June 30, 2022, 07:51:15 PM
Wooly is great because he can be so abrasive.
Parkinson immediately and sternly called him out on it and let him know Armagh started the row.
It makes good media, even if it isn't true.
A great example of the type of nonsense Wooly doesn't allow his guests to come out with. Have you listened to the podcast? He gives a very concise breakdown as to how Armagh escalated a two man row into an outright violent brawl, outlined that this is their third brawl of this year alone and McGeeney instead of stamping it out is more interested in picking on journalists and asking them if they would push back when pushed. It was almost uncomfortable the extent to which he hammered home these facts to Aaron Kiernan who was trying to skirt around the issues, great listening.
It's exactly the type of thing you want pundits to say but they usually take the sharp edges off their comments. Parkinson doesn't do that and it's what has gained him such a large following.
He didn't exactly challenge Caolan Mooney the previous week as to why he was ringing James McCartan the day before a training weekend to see if the Down team could go drinking the following day in Malahide.
He will allow a selective amount of nonsense.
As for McGeeney picking on journalists, that's ludicrous. Sidebottom knew exactly what he was at in looking for a reaction. Perhaps McGeeney should have just played along but it can't be the easiest thing having a microphone shoved in your face minutes after the final whistle.
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Quote from: Westside on July 01, 2022, 10:43:44 AM
Quote from: armaghniac on June 30, 2022, 08:35:54 PM
Quote from: Westside on June 30, 2022, 07:51:15 PM
Wooly is great because he can be so abrasive.
Parkinson immediately and sternly called him out on it and let him know Armagh started the row.
It makes good media, even if it isn't true.
A great example of the type of nonsense Wooly doesn't allow his guests to come out with. Have you listened to the podcast? He gives a very concise breakdown as to how Armagh escalated a two man row into an outright violent brawl, outlined that this is their third brawl of this year alone and McGeeney instead of stamping it out is more interested in picking on journalists and asking them if they would push back when pushed. It was almost uncomfortable the extent to which he hammered home these facts to Aaron Kiernan who was trying to skirt around the issues, great listening.
It's exactly the type of thing you want pundits to say but they usually take the sharp edges off their comments. Parkinson doesn't do that and it's what has gained him such a large following.
He didn't exactly challenge Caolan Mooney the previous week as to why he was ringing James McCartan the day before a training weekend to see if the Down team could go drinking the following day in Malahide.
He will allow a selective amount of nonsense.
As for McGeeney picking on journalists, that's ludicrous. Sidebottom knew exactly what he was at in looking for a reaction. Perhaps McGeeney should have just played along but it can't be the easiest thing having a microphone shoved in your face minutes after the final whistle.
Geezer should leave the interviews to Donaghy. The man exudes aggression all the time. Sidearse was hardly acting a dick. No wonder Armagh involved in scraps this year!
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Quote from: Westside on July 01, 2022, 10:43:44 AM
Quote from: armaghniac on June 30, 2022, 08:35:54 PM
Quote from: Westside on June 30, 2022, 07:51:15 PM
Wooly is great because he can be so abrasive.
Parkinson immediately and sternly called him out on it and let him know Armagh started the row.
It makes good media, even if it isn't true.
A great example of the type of nonsense Wooly doesn't allow his guests to come out with. Have you listened to the podcast? He gives a very concise breakdown as to how Armagh escalated a two man row into an outright violent brawl, outlined that this is their third brawl of this year alone and McGeeney instead of stamping it out is more interested in picking on journalists and asking them if they would push back when pushed. It was almost uncomfortable the extent to which he hammered home these facts to Aaron Kiernan who was trying to skirt around the issues, great listening.
It's exactly the type of thing you want pundits to say but they usually take the sharp edges off their comments. Parkinson doesn't do that and it's what has gained him such a large following.
He didn't exactly challenge Caolan Mooney the previous week as to why he was ringing James McCartan the day before a training weekend to see if the Down team could go drinking the following day in Malahide.
He will allow a selective amount of nonsense.
As for McGeeney picking on journalists, that's ludicrous. Sidebottom knew exactly what he was at in looking for a reaction. Perhaps McGeeney should have just played along but it can't be the easiest thing having a microphone shoved in your face minutes after the final whistle.
An interview with someone when you're trying to get information out of them is very different from allowing your own analyst to talk nonsense.
McGeeney was being a dick to sidebottom. He was asked tough but fair questions that he was inevitably going to be asked after his team were involved in their third all out brawl of the year. Shock horror, he got aggressive.
Quote from: weareros on July 01, 2022, 04:26:30 PM
Only ever paid for two podcasts on Patreon - Wooly and Second Captains. I signed up for SC 5 or 6 years ago to hear a good Kevin McStay interview at time when he was Ros manager. I gave them a fair chance but eventually had to cancel because the waffle at the beginning was unbearable and the like of thing you'd hear from some poseurs trying to be funny at a University students Union. Wooly on the other hand understands audio and keeps the show moving well with a couple of great contributors. I hope they all make a few bob.
The Second Captains one is too soccer focused for me to pay for it.
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Only ever paid for two podcasts on Patreon - Wooly and Second Captains. I signed up for SC 5 or 6 years ago to hear a good Kevin McStay interview at time when he was Ros manager. I gave them a fair chance but eventually had to cancel because the waffle at the beginning was unbearable and the like of thing you'd hear from some poseurs trying to be funny at a University students Union. Wooly on the other hand understands audio and keeps the show moving well with a couple of great contributors. I hope they all make a few bob.
The Second Captains one is too soccer focused for me to pay for it.
I enjoy their soccer coverage, it's their rugby pods I can't stand. Rinse and repeat in terms of what the pundits say and god forbid if they have Gerry Thornley on and anyone dares venture any tiny criticism against the Ireland players. It's nauseating stuff. The only time their rugby coverage is good in my opinion is when they have on Craig Ray from South Africa or Scotty Stevenson from New Zealand, enjoy listening to them 2.
I subscribe to Second Captains mostly because of their soccer coverage though and as well, they'll quite often have a story you'll have never heard of that's pretty interesting, I've picked up a few books in the past based off interviews they've had or stories they've covered of different niche sports. They tend to get a wide variety of guests on. Their RTE radio show is decent as well, where they have a guest on and "rank" their sporting life, it's a bit of craic
But their GAA coverage has been poor overall this year, it's improved in recent weeks but they haven't spoken about the Tailteann Cup at all and the hurling has barely been covered until recently. I'm not a hurling man but it's been pretty noticeable. I also generally find your man Murph hard enough to listen to at times with the GAA coverage, when they just let Flynn and McConville go themselves it's a good listen but as someone else mentioned, Flynn can lose the run of himself as well.
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Only ever paid for two podcasts on Patreon - Wooly and Second Captains. I signed up for SC 5 or 6 years ago to hear a good Kevin McStay interview at time when he was Ros manager. I gave them a fair chance but eventually had to cancel because the waffle at the beginning was unbearable and the like of thing you'd hear from some poseurs trying to be funny at a University students Union. Wooly on the other hand understands audio and keeps the show moving well with a couple of great contributors. I hope they all make a few bob.
The Second Captains one is too soccer focused for me to pay for it.
I enjoy their soccer coverage, it's their rugby pods I can't stand. Rinse and repeat in terms of what the pundits say and god forbid if they have Gerry Thornley on and anyone dares venture any tiny criticism against the Ireland players. It's nauseating stuff. The only time their rugby coverage is good in my opinion is when they have on Craig Ray from South Africa or Scotty Stevenson from New Zealand, enjoy listening to them 2.
I subscribe to Second Captains mostly because of their soccer coverage though and as well, they'll quite often have a story you'll have never heard of that's pretty interesting, I've picked up a few books in the past based off interviews they've had or stories they've covered of different niche sports. They tend to get a wide variety of guests on. Their RTE radio show is decent as well, where they have a guest on and "rank" their sporting life, it's a bit of craic
But their GAA coverage has been poor overall this year, it's improved in recent weeks but they haven't spoken about the Tailteann Cup at all and the hurling has barely been covered until recently. I'm not a hurling man but it's been pretty noticeable. I also generally find your man Murph hard enough to listen to at times with the GAA coverage, when they just let Flynn and McConville go themselves it's a good listen but as someone else mentioned, Flynn can lose the run of himself as well.
Oh my God Thornley is the biggest cheerleader I have ever encountered in the media. He's ridiculous.
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Only ever paid for two podcasts on Patreon - Wooly and Second Captains. I signed up for SC 5 or 6 years ago to hear a good Kevin McStay interview at time when he was Ros manager. I gave them a fair chance but eventually had to cancel because the waffle at the beginning was unbearable and the like of thing you'd hear from some poseurs trying to be funny at a University students Union. Wooly on the other hand understands audio and keeps the show moving well with a couple of great contributors. I hope they all make a few bob.
The Second Captains one is too soccer focused for me to pay for it.
I enjoy their soccer coverage, it's their rugby pods I can't stand. Rinse and repeat in terms of what the pundits say and god forbid if they have Gerry Thornley on and anyone dares venture any tiny criticism against the Ireland players. It's nauseating stuff. The only time their rugby coverage is good in my opinion is when they have on Craig Ray from South Africa or Scotty Stevenson from New Zealand, enjoy listening to them 2.
I subscribe to Second Captains mostly because of their soccer coverage though and as well, they'll quite often have a story you'll have never heard of that's pretty interesting, I've picked up a few books in the past based off interviews they've had or stories they've covered of different niche sports. They tend to get a wide variety of guests on. Their RTE radio show is decent as well, where they have a guest on and "rank" their sporting life, it's a bit of craic
But their GAA coverage has been poor overall this year, it's improved in recent weeks but they haven't spoken about the Tailteann Cup at all and the hurling has barely been covered until recently. I'm not a hurling man but it's been pretty noticeable. I also generally find your man Murph hard enough to listen to at times with the GAA coverage, when they just let Flynn and McConville go themselves it's a good listen but as someone else mentioned, Flynn can lose the run of himself as well.
Found their very limited GAA coverage bit annoying for my tastes and the rinse and repeat Ken Earley disdain for all things GAA kinda boring - okay we get it you don't tune in to it Ken but don't use it as some sort of filler! Been so long since listened to them it is probably no longer relevant. Murph a bit up his own back passage but McDevitt very good in fairness.
I still subscribe to Second captains but they are on thier last legs with me . how they can allow Ken early drivel on for about 20 mins at a time taking up weak contrarian positions is beyond me. are the other 2 lads the only people in he world that finds him Funny.
I Like Ciaran Murphy when he's talking about gaa to Football people esp oisin McConville
As as for their university level right on politics , nobody signed up for that
and dont get me started on richard sadlier
The GAA Social with Thomas Niblock and Oisin McConville on BBC is the best GAA Podcast of the lot IMO
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Wooly is great because he can be so abrasive.
Parkinson immediately and sternly called him out on it and let him know Armagh started the row.
It makes good media, even if it isn't true.
A great example of the type of nonsense Wooly doesn't allow his guests to come out with. Have you listened to the podcast? He gives a very concise breakdown as to how Armagh escalated a two man row into an outright violent brawl, outlined that this is their third brawl of this year alone and McGeeney instead of stamping it out is more interested in picking on journalists and asking them if they would push back when pushed. It was almost uncomfortable the extent to which he hammered home these facts to Aaron Kiernan who was trying to skirt around the issues, great listening.
It's exactly the type of thing you want pundits to say but they usually take the sharp edges off their comments. Parkinson doesn't do that and it's what has gained him such a large following.
Far be it from me to defend Armagh, but no point accusing anyone of talking nonsense and then describing what happened as "an outright violent brawl". One fella eye gouged another and then someone hit him for it. Everyone else pushed and shoved each other a bit with not a single punch thrown. Some people love to be dramatic about these pushing and shoving matches. The word "brawl" gets thrown about very easily in GAA coverage.
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Wooly is great because he can be so abrasive.
Parkinson immediately and sternly called him out on it and let him know Armagh started the row.
It makes good media, even if it isn't true.
A great example of the type of nonsense Wooly doesn't allow his guests to come out with. Have you listened to the podcast? He gives a very concise breakdown as to how Armagh escalated a two man row into an outright violent brawl, outlined that this is their third brawl of this year alone and McGeeney instead of stamping it out is more interested in picking on journalists and asking them if they would push back when pushed. It was almost uncomfortable the extent to which he hammered home these facts to Aaron Kiernan who was trying to skirt around the issues, great listening.
It's exactly the type of thing you want pundits to say but they usually take the sharp edges off their comments. Parkinson doesn't do that and it's what has gained him such a large following.
Far be it from me to defend Armagh, but no point accusing anyone of talking nonsense and then describing what happened as "an outright violent brawl". One fella eye gouged another and then someone hit him for it. Everyone else pushed and shoved each other a bit with not a single punch thrown. Some people love to be dramatic about these pushing and shoving matches. The word "brawl" gets thrown about very easily in GAA coverage.
You're right, if you ignore the
eye gouging and
punching, there was nothing to it.
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Wooly is great because he can be so abrasive.
Parkinson immediately and sternly called him out on it and let him know Armagh started the row.
It makes good media, even if it isn't true.
A great example of the type of nonsense Wooly doesn't allow his guests to come out with. Have you listened to the podcast? He gives a very concise breakdown as to how Armagh escalated a two man row into an outright violent brawl, outlined that this is their third brawl of this year alone and McGeeney instead of stamping it out is more interested in picking on journalists and asking them if they would push back when pushed. It was almost uncomfortable the extent to which he hammered home these facts to Aaron Kiernan who was trying to skirt around the issues, great listening.
It's exactly the type of thing you want pundits to say but they usually take the sharp edges off their comments. Parkinson doesn't do that and it's what has gained him such a large following.
Far be it from me to defend Armagh, but no point accusing anyone of talking nonsense and then describing what happened as "an outright violent brawl". One fella eye gouged another and then someone hit him for it. Everyone else pushed and shoved each other a bit with not a single punch thrown. Some people love to be dramatic about these pushing and shoving matches. The word "brawl" gets thrown about very easily in GAA coverage.
You're right, if you ignore the eye gouging and punching, there was nothing to it.
So 2 poor incidents, one as a direct and understandable reaction to the other equates to a violent brawl now? Jesus I'd say you're some craic on a night out
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Wooly is great because he can be so abrasive.
Parkinson immediately and sternly called him out on it and let him know Armagh started the row.
It makes good media, even if it isn't true.
A great example of the type of nonsense Wooly doesn't allow his guests to come out with. Have you listened to the podcast? He gives a very concise breakdown as to how Armagh escalated a two man row into an outright violent brawl, outlined that this is their third brawl of this year alone and McGeeney instead of stamping it out is more interested in picking on journalists and asking them if they would push back when pushed. It was almost uncomfortable the extent to which he hammered home these facts to Aaron Kiernan who was trying to skirt around the issues, great listening.
It's exactly the type of thing you want pundits to say but they usually take the sharp edges off their comments. Parkinson doesn't do that and it's what has gained him such a large following.
Far be it from me to defend Armagh, but no point accusing anyone of talking nonsense and then describing what happened as "an outright violent brawl". One fella eye gouged another and then someone hit him for it. Everyone else pushed and shoved each other a bit with not a single punch thrown. Some people love to be dramatic about these pushing and shoving matches. The word "brawl" gets thrown about very easily in GAA coverage.
You're right, if you ignore the eye gouging and punching, there was nothing to it.
"Ignoring the eye gouging and the punching?" Did you read my post? I literally said:
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"One fella eye gouged another and then someone hit him for it. Everyone else pushed and shoved each other a bit".
So, again, does a single violent act, followed by a single retaliatory violent act, constitute a brawl? Or does was it the pushing and shoving that you're calling "an outright violent brawl"?
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Quote from: Westside on June 30, 2022, 07:51:15 PM
Wooly is great because he can be so abrasive.
Parkinson immediately and sternly called him out on it and let him know Armagh started the row.
It makes good media, even if it isn't true.
A great example of the type of nonsense Wooly doesn't allow his guests to come out with. Have you listened to the podcast? He gives a very concise breakdown as to how Armagh escalated a two man row into an outright violent brawl, outlined that this is their third brawl of this year alone and McGeeney instead of stamping it out is more interested in picking on journalists and asking them if they would push back when pushed. It was almost uncomfortable the extent to which he hammered home these facts to Aaron Kiernan who was trying to skirt around the issues, great listening.
It's exactly the type of thing you want pundits to say but they usually take the sharp edges off their comments. Parkinson doesn't do that and it's what has gained him such a large following.
Far be it from me to defend Armagh, but no point accusing anyone of talking nonsense and then describing what happened as "an outright violent brawl". One fella eye gouged another and then someone hit him for it. Everyone else pushed and shoved each other a bit with not a single punch thrown. Some people love to be dramatic about these pushing and shoving matches. The word "brawl" gets thrown about very easily in GAA coverage.
You're right, if you ignore the eye gouging and punching, there was nothing to it.
"Ignoring the eye gouging and the punching?" Did you read my post? I literally said:
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"One fella eye gouged another and then someone hit him for it. Everyone else pushed and shoved each other a bit".
So, again, does a single violent act, followed by a single retaliatory violent act, constitute a brawl? Or does was it the pushing and shoving that you're calling "an outright violent brawl"?
Does grabbing a lad by the neck and pulling him to the ground not count as violence?
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Quote from: Westside on June 30, 2022, 07:51:15 PM
Wooly is great because he can be so abrasive.
Parkinson immediately and sternly called him out on it and let him know Armagh started the row.
It makes good media, even if it isn't true.
A great example of the type of nonsense Wooly doesn't allow his guests to come out with. Have you listened to the podcast? He gives a very concise breakdown as to how Armagh escalated a two man row into an outright violent brawl, outlined that this is their third brawl of this year alone and McGeeney instead of stamping it out is more interested in picking on journalists and asking them if they would push back when pushed. It was almost uncomfortable the extent to which he hammered home these facts to Aaron Kiernan who was trying to skirt around the issues, great listening.
It's exactly the type of thing you want pundits to say but they usually take the sharp edges off their comments. Parkinson doesn't do that and it's what has gained him such a large following.
Far be it from me to defend Armagh, but no point accusing anyone of talking nonsense and then describing what happened as "an outright violent brawl". One fella eye gouged another and then someone hit him for it. Everyone else pushed and shoved each other a bit with not a single punch thrown. Some people love to be dramatic about these pushing and shoving matches. The word "brawl" gets thrown about very easily in GAA coverage.
You're right, if you ignore the eye gouging and punching, there was nothing to it.
So 2 poor incidents, one as a direct and understandable reaction to the other equates to a violent brawl now? Jesus I'd say you're some craic on a night out
2 acts of violence (3 if you count the Armagh player who grabbed a Galway player by the neck and dragged him to the ground) mean that the brawl was violent. What part of that is unclear? How many people would Armagh players have had to eye gouge before you'd be willing to call it violent?
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Wooly is great because he can be so abrasive.
Parkinson immediately and sternly called him out on it and let him know Armagh started the row.
It makes good media, even if it isn't true.
A great example of the type of nonsense Wooly doesn't allow his guests to come out with. Have you listened to the podcast? He gives a very concise breakdown as to how Armagh escalated a two man row into an outright violent brawl, outlined that this is their third brawl of this year alone and McGeeney instead of stamping it out is more interested in picking on journalists and asking them if they would push back when pushed. It was almost uncomfortable the extent to which he hammered home these facts to Aaron Kiernan who was trying to skirt around the issues, great listening.
It's exactly the type of thing you want pundits to say but they usually take the sharp edges off their comments. Parkinson doesn't do that and it's what has gained him such a large following.
Far be it from me to defend Armagh, but no point accusing anyone of talking nonsense and then describing what happened as "an outright violent brawl". One fella eye gouged another and then someone hit him for it. Everyone else pushed and shoved each other a bit with not a single punch thrown. Some people love to be dramatic about these pushing and shoving matches. The word "brawl" gets thrown about very easily in GAA coverage.
You're right, if you ignore the eye gouging and punching, there was nothing to it.
"Ignoring the eye gouging and the punching?" Did you read my post? I literally said:
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"One fella eye gouged another and then someone hit him for it. Everyone else pushed and shoved each other a bit".
So, again, does a single violent act, followed by a single retaliatory violent act, constitute a brawl? Or does was it the pushing and shoving that you're calling "an outright violent brawl"?
Does grabbing a lad by the next and pulling him to the ground not count as violence?
The entire incident was almost exclusively pushing and shoving. Most people would expect "an outright violent brawl" to have involved more than one single striking action through it's entirity. Easy on the sensationalism, that's all I'm saying.
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Wooly is great because he can be so abrasive.
Parkinson immediately and sternly called him out on it and let him know Armagh started the row.
It makes good media, even if it isn't true.
A great example of the type of nonsense Wooly doesn't allow his guests to come out with. Have you listened to the podcast? He gives a very concise breakdown as to how Armagh escalated a two man row into an outright violent brawl, outlined that this is their third brawl of this year alone and McGeeney instead of stamping it out is more interested in picking on journalists and asking them if they would push back when pushed. It was almost uncomfortable the extent to which he hammered home these facts to Aaron Kiernan who was trying to skirt around the issues, great listening.
It's exactly the type of thing you want pundits to say but they usually take the sharp edges off their comments. Parkinson doesn't do that and it's what has gained him such a large following.
Far be it from me to defend Armagh, but no point accusing anyone of talking nonsense and then describing what happened as "an outright violent brawl". One fella eye gouged another and then someone hit him for it. Everyone else pushed and shoved each other a bit with not a single punch thrown. Some people love to be dramatic about these pushing and shoving matches. The word "brawl" gets thrown about very easily in GAA coverage.
You're right, if you ignore the eye gouging and punching, there was nothing to it.
"Ignoring the eye gouging and the punching?" Did you read my post? I literally said:
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"One fella eye gouged another and then someone hit him for it. Everyone else pushed and shoved each other a bit".
So, again, does a single violent act, followed by a single retaliatory violent act, constitute a brawl? Or does was it the pushing and shoving that you're calling "an outright violent brawl"?
Does grabbing a lad by the next and pulling him to the ground not count as violence?
The entire incident was almost exclusively pushing and shoving. Most people would expect "an outright violent brawl" to have involved more than one single striking action through it's entirity. Easy on the sensationalism, that's all I'm saying.
You can keep the bar where you please for these things of course. For me, a melee where a man got eye gouged, another got punched full force in the head and another wrestled to the ground by his neck would count as a violent brawl.
Meath/ Mayo in 96 was a violent brawl. The incident at the end of normal time was 95% handbags and generally just pushing and shoving (apart from the two incidents that have already been outlined).
Ease off on the old hyperbole lads. Very easy to get carried away with the hand wringing.
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Meath/ Mayo in 96 was a violent brawl. The incident at the end of normal time was 95% handbags and generally just pushing and shoving (apart from the two incidents that have already been outlined).
Ease off on the old hyperbole lads. Very easy to get carried away with the hand wringing.
I also think the entire thing has been over sensationalised.
But if you are going back over 25 years to use an example of a worse brawl, its not proving the point you think it is
After the brawl send off the 2 captains and managers as a standard measure.
The only way to punish a team in real time and to encourage internal discipline within a camp. It is nigh on impossible to single out individuals.
Standard punishment which will deter the messy pile ons.
Wrestling black card offence. 10 mins sinbin.
Wrestling and a throw straight red.
Punch, kick or gouge staright red.
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Quote from: Silver hill on July 06, 2022, 11:08:26 PM
Meath/ Mayo in 96 was a violent brawl. The incident at the end of normal time was 95% handbags and generally just pushing and shoving (apart from the two incidents that have already been outlined).
Ease off on the old hyperbole lads. Very easy to get carried away with the hand wringing.
rare to see a rugby matchwith out at least that level of off he ball violence, eye gouge apart m though its much more frequent there too.
there were eight officals lokking at it more than enough to finger the real perpetrator rather than just token captains. one of which clearly refuse to engage in the violence. and i never noticed the other.
shit referring but then again what ever they did would be undone by some smart arse on the ccccccccc
I also think the entire thing has been over sensationalised.
But if you are going back over 25 years to use an example of a worse brawl, its not proving the point you think it is
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Quote from: Silver hill on July 06, 2022, 11:08:26 PM
Meath/ Mayo in 96 was a violent brawl. The incident at the end of normal time was 95% handbags and generally just pushing and shoving (apart from the two incidents that have already been outlined).
Ease off on the old hyperbole lads. Very easy to get carried away with the hand wringing.
I also think the entire thing has been over sensationalised.
But if you are going back over 25 years to use an example of a worse brawl, its not proving the point you think it is
Ok then, Lavey ballinderry in the Derry championship last year was a 'violent brawl'. For me, a violet brawl is a sustained fist fight with multiple participants. It's not a part of our game that I condone in any way but unfortunately it's still happening week in week out at all age groups. Anyone involved in the GAA in any county knows exactly what constitutes a violet brawl and what is handbags
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After the brawl send off the 2 captains and managers as a standard measure.
The only way to punish a team in real time and to encourage internal discipline within a camp. It is nigh on impossible to single out individuals.
Standard punishment which will deter the messy pile ons.
Wrestling black card offence. 10 mins sinbin.
Wrestling and a throw straight red.
Punch, kick or gouge staright red.
You'd have a lot of corner forwards as captains!
Any idea why the GAA social podcast decided to stop after the 2 semi finals were played. ?? Is Niblock not over Derry getting knocked out yet.
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Any idea why the GAA social podcast decided to stop after the 2 semi finals were played. ?? Is Niblock not over Derry getting knocked out yet.
Niblock got married last week. Taking some time off. Posted it on twitter.
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Any idea why the GAA social podcast decided to stop after the 2 semi finals were played. ?? Is Niblock not over Derry getting knocked out yet.
Niblock got married last week. Taking some time off. Posted it on twitter.
Ah OK thanks. I don't bother with twitter
Wooly not happy today that no men on TG4's panel, the sap.
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Wooly not happy today that no men on TG4's panel, the sap.
I enjoy Wooly's podcasts, but I can't bring myself to give him any of my money because he is such a gimp on social media.
Wooly could not care less who is on the panel of a TG4 game. Whether it is 3 women, 3 men or 3 feckin monkeys, it's all the same to Wooly because he can't understand a word of what's going on. The only reason he has taken to social media to complain about a TG4 panel that he doesn't even listen to is that he doesn't want women doing analysis of men's football on RTE, and he thinks this is a clever way of doing that. The sap.
Yeah the whole thing is BS. I mean there are plenty of men who have played at the top level on RTE who can't analyse football. It has been shown that women can do it equally as well. Not all women who played the game can analyse the game but that is not a sexist comment because not all men who played it can analyse it and RTE's panel is largely an illustration of that :o Just find the right people men or women - who cares.
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Quote from: gallsman on July 31, 2022, 08:44:22 PM
Wooly not happy today that no men on TG4's panel, the sap.
I enjoy Wooly's podcasts, but I can't bring myself to give him any of my money because he is such a gimp on social media.
Gave himself the Woolberto moniker, enough said
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Yeah the whole thing is BS. I mean there are plenty of men who have played at the top level on RTE who can't analyse football. It has been shown that women can do it equally as well. Not all women who played the game can analyse the game but that is not a sexist comment because not all men who played it can analyse it and RTE's panel is largely an illustration of that :o Just find the right people men or women - who cares.
Plenty of people unfortunately, including plenty on the board. Arseholes.