gaaboard.com

Sure we'd better turn up and fulfil the fixture anyway.

Game should be played in Mullingar

Tullamore.
Better pubs and on the railway line from the West

Breffni park,plenty of pubs  within walking distance in Cavan town.

It should be in Croke Park. Let's be honest it'll be your only game there this year. Dublin's game against cork should have been in Parnell tho

Quote from: tonto1888 on July 15, 2019, 09:48:58 PM
It should be in Croke Park. Let's be honest it'll be your only game there this year. Dublin's game against cork should have been in Parnell tho

Name any team that would want to play dubs in croke park as their neutral venue game.
This game should be in one of Clones, Tullamore, or Portlaoise and what to we want a game in Croke park for.
Dublin win either way but until their many advantages are taken away(this being one of them} their all-Ireland successes will be tainted. 

Quote from: giveballaghback on July 16, 2019, 09:10:26 PM

Quote from: tonto1888 on July 15, 2019, 09:48:58 PM
It should be in Croke Park. Let's be honest it'll be your only game there this year. Dublin's game against cork should have been in Parnell tho

Name any team that would want to play dubs in croke park as their neutral venue game.
This game should be in one of Clones, Tullamore, or Portlaoise and what to we want a game in Croke park for.
Dublin win either way but until their many advantages are taken away(this being one of them} their all-Ireland successes will be tainted.

It was always supposed to be one home, one away and one in croke Park. This isn't the game you should be crying about Dublin playing in Croke Park. And no, none of their titles are tainted

Quote from: tonto1888 on July 16, 2019, 10:26:53 PM

Quote from: giveballaghback on July 16, 2019, 09:10:26 PM

Quote from: tonto1888 on July 15, 2019, 09:48:58 PM
It should be in Croke Park. Let's be honest it'll be your only game there this year. Dublin's game against cork should have been in Parnell tho

Name any team that would want to play dubs in croke park as their neutral venue game.
This game should be in one of Clones, Tullamore, or Portlaoise and what to we want a game in Croke park for.
Dublin win either way but until their many advantages are taken away(this being one of them} their all-Ireland successes will be tainted.

It was always supposed to be one home, one away and one in croke Park. This isn't the game you should be crying about Dublin playing in Croke Park. And no, none of their titles are tainted

Reality and the Rossies on here don't come into contact too often.

Give the Rossies a break. FFS, it's not like they're asking for much, perhaps a bit of fairness.
Should be in O'Connor Park.

O Conner Park, the best venue in Ireland bar none.

Quote from: giveballaghback on July 16, 2019, 11:09:54 PM
O Conner Park, the best venue in Ireland bar none.

Nah, that has(d) to go to Clonmore Harps. Or Bracknagh. Was once at an Offaly minor match there, where the physio in the dugout couldn't see the injured player at the other side of the field.
Or Mucklagh, where there's a 10 foot difference in one end of the pitch to the other, in terms of a slope. Then again, Rahan is that bad that Shamrocks play in Mucklagh, such is the slope in it.

Other than that, we've great pitches throughout. The county with the best pitches, about the only title we'll be winning. The kinda sad thing is that it probably carries more weight than a Christy Ring win.

Quote from: LooseCannon on July 16, 2019, 10:51:25 PM
Give the Rossies a break. FFS, it's not like they're asking for much, perhaps a bit of fairness.
Should be in O'Connor Park.

Bigger counties will always support each other until they get fochted themselves. Then all hell will break loose.

Quote from: weareros on July 17, 2019, 12:52:09 AM

Quote from: LooseCannon on July 16, 2019, 10:51:25 PM
Give the Rossies a break. FFS, it's not like they're asking for much, perhaps a bit of fairness.
Should be in O'Connor Park.

Bigger counties will always support each other until they get fochted themselves. Then all hell will break loose.

This game should be at a neutral venue. Time this Croke Park nonsense was parked up.
Sure Mayo got a hammering in Killarney but the occasion was way better than Croke Park. 

This game should be in Croke Park. That's the way the 'Super 8s' we're laid out. Cork this year, and Roscommon last year, would have had legitimate gripes about playing in Croke Park

If this weekend's 4 games were at neutral Provincial venues just imagine the atmosphere, sense of occasion and economic boost to the 4 towns in question ( Tyone v Cork might have to be doubled up with Kerry Donegal though).
Not to mention fairness si that no team was forced to play 2 games in opponents' home Counties.

Dublin will stroll it if it was played on the moon.

At least the Rossies get the experience of getting hammered in Croker as opposed to some midlands dump.

Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on July 17, 2019, 11:13:31 AM
Dublin will stroll it if it was played on the moon.

Like Croker, there'd be no atmosphere.

Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on July 17, 2019, 11:13:31 AM
Dublin will stroll it if it was played on the moon.

At least the Rossies get the experience of getting hammered in Croker as opposed to some midlands dump.

I know, they'll have the joy of an extra hour or two to relive said hammering on the journey home. In a line of cars snaking out of Dublin or an more expensive public transport, no €2.70 15-20 min rides home for them.

Quote from: weareros on July 17, 2019, 11:22:18 AM

Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on July 17, 2019, 11:13:31 AM
Dublin will stroll it if it was played on the moon.

Like Croker, there'd be no atmosphere.

you'd want to be a lunatic to play there.

Quote from: weareros on July 17, 2019, 11:22:18 AM

Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on July 17, 2019, 11:13:31 AM
Dublin will stroll it if it was played on the moon.

Like Croker, there'd be no atmosphere.

Very good ;D

Quote from: Owenmoresider on July 17, 2019, 11:36:06 AM

Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on July 17, 2019, 11:13:31 AM
Dublin will stroll it if it was played on the moon.

At least the Rossies get the experience of getting hammered in Croker as opposed to some midlands dump.

I know, they'll have the joy of an extra hour or two to relive said hammering on the journey home. In a line of cars snaking out of Dublin or an more expensive public transport, no €2.70 15-20 min rides home for them.

Like the majority of the population of Roscommon, they can also chose to leave it.

Be interesting to see how Cunningham approaches this game (and whether his approach would differ depending on the result of the first game!)

You'd have to think Cox will be well up to rectify last week. Very important that Roscommon set up to leave him one-on-one with his marker, then he could cause lots of trouble. But if they allow Dublin free defenders, so we can have one in front and one behind, then we'll likely cope easily enough.

Some selection dilemmas for Jim Gavin. Presumably Dean Rock will replace Cormac Costello. I would like to see Costello play without the responsibility of freetaking (he's decent and will have 100% days, but I don't think with his technique he'll ever be as reliable as Rock from frees), but unfortunately for him, he has to be first in line for the chop. Mannion has been deadly this year, but was quiet enough last week, Con about the opposite, but both ahead of Cormac.

I'm sure the aim is to have Cooper and McCarthy in the starting line-up for the semi-finals, but not sure who'll miss out. O'Sullivan has had a resurgence this year, but took a step back last week. If he's allowed sweep, he's still top drawer, and he's still probably the best foot passer of our defenders. But if forced to man-mark, he starts to look a bit leggy. Murchan, O'Carroll and Lowndes also trying to get a look in.

Hard to imagine Connolly getting onto the bench, given Bernard has been plugging away for months without making the 26. Personally I'd love to see Diarmo replace O'Gara on the bench. Andrews, Small Jnr and Kev Mac have been on the bench throughout, just getting a few minutes here and there, but it's borderline impossible to break into the first 15. Maybe they'll all get their chance in the third game if we've already qualified. Potentially Gavin could chop and change for this game and next game, so all contenders get a good chance to stake their claim over the 2 games, but I don't see him going down that road.

I feckin hate 7pm games, and I'm only 30 minutes down the road. Not sure why there isn't more furore about such late throw-ins especially when teams have to travel across the country to get there.

Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on July 17, 2019, 01:52:26 PM

Quote from: Owenmoresider on July 17, 2019, 11:36:06 AM

Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on July 17, 2019, 11:13:31 AM
Dublin will stroll it if it was played on the moon.

At least the Rossies get the experience of getting hammered in Croker as opposed to some midlands dump.

I know, they'll have the joy of an extra hour or two to relive said hammering on the journey home. In a line of cars snaking out of Dublin or an more expensive public transport, no €2.70 15-20 min rides home for them.

Like the majority of the population of Roscommon, they can also chose to leave it.

One sixth of the population of Roscommon attended the Hyde Saturday.
One forty fifth of the population of Dublin attended Croke Park Saturday.
Go back to your soccer you floot  >:(

Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on July 17, 2019, 11:13:31 AM
Dublin will stroll it if it was played on the moon.

At least the Rossies get the experience of getting hammered in Croker as opposed to some midlands dump.

I would imagine trying to play Gaelic Football on the moon would be an incredibly difficult undertaking.

I see bookies have Dublin to win by 15 points. I think that is more than for Meath, Cork and Kildare. I guess beating Mayo and Galway away from home means nothing at this stage. I believe we'll be well able to throw that back in their face come 9 or so on Saturday.

Quote from: weareros on July 17, 2019, 03:07:30 PM
I see bookies have Dublin to win by 15 points. I think that is more than for Meath, Cork and Kildare. I guess beating Mayo and Galway away from home means nothing at this stage. I believe we'll be well able to throw that back in their face come 9 or so on Saturday.

Yep, Meath and Cork would be respected more than Roscommon. Even though the Rossies have been well ahead of them for the last few years.

Quote from: weareros on July 17, 2019, 03:07:30 PM
I see bookies have Dublin to win by 15 points. I think that is more than for Meath, Cork and Kildare. I guess beating Mayo and Galway away from home means nothing at this stage. I believe we'll be well able to throw that back in their face come 9 or so on Saturday.

Cork lost by 13,Meath 16 and Kildare 15.

I reckon Dublin by 9 points something like 1-19 to 1-10.  If it's a game that Dublin get in for easy goals as they did v Louth,Cork then the margin will be greater but i would think Roscommon's defence isn't as open as those teams. Gavin will likely be ruthless with his selection with a focus to not allow another big score to be conceded this weekend, I'd expect longer game time for Cooper,McCarthy.

Quote from: Rossfan on July 17, 2019, 02:42:54 PM

Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on July 17, 2019, 01:52:26 PM

Quote from: Owenmoresider on July 17, 2019, 11:36:06 AM

Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on July 17, 2019, 11:13:31 AM
Dublin will stroll it if it was played on the moon.

At least the Rossies get the experience of getting hammered in Croker as opposed to some midlands dump.

I know, they'll have the joy of an extra hour or two to relive said hammering on the journey home. In a line of cars snaking out of Dublin or an more expensive public transport, no €2.70 15-20 min rides home for them.

Like the majority of the population of Roscommon, they can also chose to leave it.

One sixth of the population of Roscommon attended the Hyde Saturday.
One forty fifth of the population of Dublin attended Croke Park Saturday.
Go back to your soccer you floot  >:(

Is my point. Most Roscommoners dont live there, unless you are actually arguing 1 in 6 locals went, which would be silly.

Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on July 17, 2019, 06:08:12 PM

Quote from: Rossfan on July 17, 2019, 02:42:54 PM

Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on July 17, 2019, 01:52:26 PM

Quote from: Owenmoresider on July 17, 2019, 11:36:06 AM

Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on July 17, 2019, 11:13:31 AM
Dublin will stroll it if it was played on the moon.

At least the Rossies get the experience of getting hammered in Croker as opposed to some midlands dump.

I know, they'll have the joy of an extra hour or two to relive said hammering on the journey home. In a line of cars snaking out of Dublin or an more expensive public transport, no €2.70 15-20 min rides home for them.

Like the majority of the population of Roscommon, they can also chose to leave it.

One sixth of the population of Roscommon attended the Hyde Saturday.
One forty fifth of the population of Dublin attended Croke Park Saturday.
Go back to your soccer you floot  >:(

Is my point. Most Roscommoners dont live there, unless you are actually arguing 1 in 6 locals went, which would be silly.

He is using locals, who have similar travel, in both cases. This seems like a fair comparison.

Quote from: armaghniac on July 17, 2019, 06:15:32 PM

Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on July 17, 2019, 06:08:12 PM

Quote from: Rossfan on July 17, 2019, 02:42:54 PM

Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on July 17, 2019, 01:52:26 PM

Quote from: Owenmoresider on July 17, 2019, 11:36:06 AM

Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on July 17, 2019, 11:13:31 AM
Dublin will stroll it if it was played on the moon.

At least the Rossies get the experience of getting hammered in Croker as opposed to some midlands dump.

I know, they'll have the joy of an extra hour or two to relive said hammering on the journey home. In a line of cars snaking out of Dublin or an more expensive public transport, no €2.70 15-20 min rides home for them.

Like the majority of the population of Roscommon, they can also chose to leave it.

One sixth of the population of Roscommon attended the Hyde Saturday.
One forty fifth of the population of Dublin attended Croke Park Saturday.
Go back to your soccer you floot  >:(

Is my point. Most Roscommoners dont live there, unless you are actually arguing 1 in 6 locals went, which would be silly.

He is using locals, who have similar travel, in both cases. This seems like a fair comparison.

They will have to travel regardless of venue. Thats the choice they make for a rural life. Dubs dont have to travel as far because they chose to live near things. 

Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on July 17, 2019, 06:08:12 PM

Quote from: Rossfan on July 17, 2019, 02:42:54 PM

Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on July 17, 2019, 01:52:26 PM

Quote from: Owenmoresider on July 17, 2019, 11:36:06 AM

Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on July 17, 2019, 11:13:31 AM
Dublin will stroll it if it was played on the moon.

At least the Rossies get the experience of getting hammered in Croker as opposed to some midlands dump.

I know, they'll have the joy of an extra hour or two to relive said hammering on the journey home. In a line of cars snaking out of Dublin or an more expensive public transport, no €2.70 15-20 min rides home for them.

Like the majority of the population of Roscommon, they can also chose to leave it.

One sixth of the population of Roscommon attended the Hyde Saturday.
One forty fifth of the population of Dublin attended Croke Park Saturday.
Go back to your soccer you floot  >:(

Is my point. Most Roscommoners dont live there, unless you are actually arguing 1 in 6 locals went, which would be silly.

Those pesky Roscommon people lying on the census forms again

Quote from: manfromdelmonte on July 17, 2019, 06:19:52 PM

Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on July 17, 2019, 06:08:12 PM

Quote from: Rossfan on July 17, 2019, 02:42:54 PM

Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on July 17, 2019, 01:52:26 PM

Quote from: Owenmoresider on July 17, 2019, 11:36:06 AM

Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on July 17, 2019, 11:13:31 AM
Dublin will stroll it if it was played on the moon.

At least the Rossies get the experience of getting hammered in Croker as opposed to some midlands dump.

I know, they'll have the joy of an extra hour or two to relive said hammering on the journey home. In a line of cars snaking out of Dublin or an more expensive public transport, no €2.70 15-20 min rides home for them.

Like the majority of the population of Roscommon, they can also chose to leave it.

One sixth of the population of Roscommon attended the Hyde Saturday.
One forty fifth of the population of Dublin attended Croke Park Saturday.
Go back to your soccer you floot  >:(

Is my point. Most Roscommoners dont live there, unless you are actually arguing 1 in 6 locals went, which would be silly.

Those pesky Roscommon people lying on the census forms again

Lookit, if you believe 11,000 Rossies were there, never mind 11,000 travelled from Roscommon, best of luck.

Another floot added to my ignore list.

Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on July 17, 2019, 06:25:16 PM

Quote from: manfromdelmonte on July 17, 2019, 06:19:52 PM

Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on July 17, 2019, 06:08:12 PM

Quote from: Rossfan on July 17, 2019, 02:42:54 PM

Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on July 17, 2019, 01:52:26 PM

Quote from: Owenmoresider on July 17, 2019, 11:36:06 AM

Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on July 17, 2019, 11:13:31 AM
Dublin will stroll it if it was played on the moon.

At least the Rossies get the experience of getting hammered in Croker as opposed to some midlands dump.

I know, they'll have the joy of an extra hour or two to relive said hammering on the journey home. In a line of cars snaking out of Dublin or an more expensive public transport, no €2.70 15-20 min rides home for them.

Like the majority of the population of Roscommon, they can also chose to leave it.

One sixth of the population of Roscommon attended the Hyde Saturday.
One forty fifth of the population of Dublin attended Croke Park Saturday.
Go back to your soccer you floot  >:(

Is my point. Most Roscommoners dont live there, unless you are actually arguing 1 in 6 locals went, which would be silly.

Those pesky Roscommon people lying on the census forms again

Lookit, if you believe 11,000 Rossies were there, never mind 11,000 travelled from Roscommon, best of luck.

Sometimes words are not enough, stupidity abounds.

Quote from: tonto1888 on July 17, 2019, 07:42:51 AM
This game should be in Croke Park. That's the way the 'Super 8s' we're laid out. Cork this year, and Roscommon last year, would have had legitimate gripes about playing in Croke Park

Donegal played two away games last year, not Roscommon. Their game against Dublin in Croke Park was Dublin's home game. Their game against Tyrone was in Croke Park as a neutral venue.

Whereas Donegal's "neutral" game was against Dublin, in Croke Park, which is the same as us playing a neutral game in Ballybofey.

Quote from: J70 on July 17, 2019, 08:26:25 PM

Quote from: tonto1888 on July 17, 2019, 07:42:51 AM
This game should be in Croke Park. That's the way the 'Super 8s' we're laid out. Cork this year, and Roscommon last year, would have had legitimate gripes about playing in Croke Park

Donegal played two away games last year, not Roscommon. Their game against Dublin in Croke Park was Dublin's home game. Their game against Tyrone was in Croke Park as a neutral venue.

Whereas Donegal's "neutral" game was against Dublin, in Croke Park, which is the same as us playing a neutral game in Ballybofey.

Yes, Donegal had two away last year, Roscommon two away this year. Congress (shamefully) rejected the Donegal motion to change that. It is made more ridiculous by the fact that Croke Park will be half full. No one is going to be denied seeing Dublin Ros by moving it to Offaly or Portlaoise.

Quote from: J70 on July 17, 2019, 08:26:25 PM

Quote from: tonto1888 on July 17, 2019, 07:42:51 AM
This game should be in Croke Park. That's the way the 'Super 8s' we're laid out. Cork this year, and Roscommon last year, would have had legitimate gripes about playing in Croke Park

Donegal played two away games last year, not Roscommon. Their game against Dublin in Croke Park was Dublin's home game. Their game against Tyrone was in Croke Park as a neutral venue.

Whereas Donegal's "neutral" game was against Dublin, in Croke Park, which is the same as us playing a neutral game in Ballybofey.

That was my point. That game was always supposed to be in Croke Park. Roscommon should t have played the dubs there at all

Maybe we should boycott the whole unfair HQ/Dublin love in.
The last train to North Riscommon leaves Drumcondra at 7.25pm.
Sure what matter when the Dublin Corporate sector can have a Saturday night event before their night out.
Will the crowd reach 40k on Saturday?

Quote from: tonto1888 on July 17, 2019, 07:42:51 AM
This game should be in Croke Park. That's the way the 'Super 8s' we're laid out. Cork this year, and Roscommon last year, would have had legitimate gripes about playing in Croke Park

Totally agree with the above. How could this fixture be in any other venue? As Sean Kelly said ''All teams should aspire to beating Dublin in Croke Park. Every team loves to play in Croke Park. It is such a privilege for rural counties to get a day out in Dublin and to see the inside of Croker.  The atmosphere will be magic on Jones Rd. The 7pm kick off is also for the benefit of the Roscommon fans giving them plenty of the day to make the journey to Dublin.

They'll be back home to their rural pubs about 11:30pm which gives them plenty of drinking time. The modern GAA are of the people, for the people. It makes my heart flutter!

Really looking forward to this game. It will be a cracker!

When did kick offs come in? ;D

Yet another match thread turning into dividing the dubs into 4 or croke park. We 20 plus threads on that already.😂😂😂😂😂

Quote from: J70 on July 17, 2019, 08:26:25 PM

Quote from: tonto1888 on July 17, 2019, 07:42:51 AM
This game should be in Croke Park. That's the way the 'Super 8s' we're laid out. Cork this year, and Roscommon last year, would have had legitimate gripes about playing in Croke Park

Donegal played two away games last year, not Roscommon. Their game against Dublin in Croke Park was Dublin's home game. Their game against Tyrone was in Croke Park as a neutral venue.

Whereas Donegal's "neutral" game was against Dublin, in Croke Park, which is the same as us playing a neutral game in Ballybofey.

Where did you get this nonsense about "neutral games". There are no "neutral games" in the Super 8. Not a single one. There are home games, away games and Croke Park games.

From the moment the format was introduced, before the beginning of championship 2018, there has never been mention of a "neutral" round. There's a Croke Park round. It's disingenuous to pretend you thought it was a neutral round. It was clear in black and white from the day the vote was taken, that there was to be a home round, an away round and a Croke Park round. This ensured every quarter-finalist got a game in Croke Park. This is what the counties wanted and voted for.

From the beginning of the introduction of quarter-finals, the Leinster champions have always played their QF in Croker. Most of the time that's been Dublin and there's been no uproar. If there had been, then there may been some debate as to whether the round in Super 8s should be a neutral round rather than a Croke Park round, but there wasn't. It didn't come up. On the other hand, there has been uproar in the past when a provincial champion didn't get to play a game in Croke Park. Hence the Croke Park round was an automatic choice that everyone bought into at the time.

Should the semi finals and final be played at a neutral ground or in Croke Park?

Quote from: Hound on July 18, 2019, 08:50:29 AM

Quote from: J70 on July 17, 2019, 08:26:25 PM

Quote from: tonto1888 on July 17, 2019, 07:42:51 AM
This game should be in Croke Park. That's the way the 'Super 8s' we're laid out. Cork this year, and Roscommon last year, would have had legitimate gripes about playing in Croke Park

Donegal played two away games last year, not Roscommon. Their game against Dublin in Croke Park was Dublin's home game. Their game against Tyrone was in Croke Park as a neutral venue.

Whereas Donegal's "neutral" game was against Dublin, in Croke Park, which is the same as us playing a neutral game in Ballybofey.

Where did you get this nonsense about "neutral games". There are no "neutral games" in the Super 8. Not a single one. There are home games, away games and Croke Park games.

From the moment the format was introduced, before the beginning of championship 2018, there has never been mention of a "neutral" round. There's a Croke Park round. It's disingenuous to pretend you thought it was a neutral round. It was clear in black and white from the day the vote was taken, that there was to be a home round, an away round and a Croke Park round. This ensured every quarter-finalist got a game in Croke Park. This is what the counties wanted and voted for.

From the beginning of the introduction of quarter-finals, the Leinster champions have always played their QF in Croker. Most of the time that's been Dublin and there's been no uproar. If there had been, then there may been some debate as to whether the round in Super 8s should be a neutral round rather than a Croke Park round, but there wasn't. It didn't come up. On the other hand, there has been uproar in the past when a provincial champion didn't get to play a game in Croke Park. Hence the Croke Park round was an automatic choice that everyone bought into at the time.

Should the semi finals and final be played at a neutral ground or in Croke Park?

Dublin moved the posts, they have now designated Croke Park as their home officially having played all NFL games there since 2011. The fairest and most natural thing is that all Dublin games in the Leinster and AI series bar the 2 finals should be played at a neutral venues same as every other team in Leinster and every team in the AI series. It's a mockery of the competition that 8 years later this hasn't been addressed.

Quote from: Dinny Breen on July 18, 2019, 09:23:01 AM

Quote from: Hound on July 18, 2019, 08:50:29 AM

Quote from: J70 on July 17, 2019, 08:26:25 PM

Quote from: tonto1888 on July 17, 2019, 07:42:51 AM
This game should be in Croke Park. That's the way the 'Super 8s' we're laid out. Cork this year, and Roscommon last year, would have had legitimate gripes about playing in Croke Park

Donegal played two away games last year, not Roscommon. Their game against Dublin in Croke Park was Dublin's home game. Their game against Tyrone was in Croke Park as a neutral venue.

Whereas Donegal's "neutral" game was against Dublin, in Croke Park, which is the same as us playing a neutral game in Ballybofey.

Where did you get this nonsense about "neutral games". There are no "neutral games" in the Super 8. Not a single one. There are home games, away games and Croke Park games.

From the moment the format was introduced, before the beginning of championship 2018, there has never been mention of a "neutral" round. There's a Croke Park round. It's disingenuous to pretend you thought it was a neutral round. It was clear in black and white from the day the vote was taken, that there was to be a home round, an away round and a Croke Park round. This ensured every quarter-finalist got a game in Croke Park. This is what the counties wanted and voted for.

From the beginning of the introduction of quarter-finals, the Leinster champions have always played their QF in Croker. Most of the time that's been Dublin and there's been no uproar. If there had been, then there may been some debate as to whether the round in Super 8s should be a neutral round rather than a Croke Park round, but there wasn't. It didn't come up. On the other hand, there has been uproar in the past when a provincial champion didn't get to play a game in Croke Park. Hence the Croke Park round was an automatic choice that everyone bought into at the time.

Should the semi finals and final be played at a neutral ground or in Croke Park?

Dublin moved the posts, they have now designated Croke Park as their home officially having played all NFL games there since 2011. The fairest and most natural thing is that all Dublin games in the Leinster and AI series bar the 2 finals should be played at a neutral venues same as every other team in Leinster and every team in the AI series. It's a mockery of the competition that 8 years later this hasn't been addressed.

no they didn't, I hate this sort of shit

Quote from: Tyrdub on July 18, 2019, 10:05:54 AM

Quote from: Dinny Breen on July 18, 2019, 09:23:01 AM

Quote from: Hound on July 18, 2019, 08:50:29 AM

Quote from: J70 on July 17, 2019, 08:26:25 PM

Quote from: tonto1888 on July 17, 2019, 07:42:51 AM
This game should be in Croke Park. That's the way the 'Super 8s' we're laid out. Cork this year, and Roscommon last year, would have had legitimate gripes about playing in Croke Park

Donegal played two away games last year, not Roscommon. Their game against Dublin in Croke Park was Dublin's home game. Their game against Tyrone was in Croke Park as a neutral venue.

Whereas Donegal's "neutral" game was against Dublin, in Croke Park, which is the same as us playing a neutral game in Ballybofey.

Where did you get this nonsense about "neutral games". There are no "neutral games" in the Super 8. Not a single one. There are home games, away games and Croke Park games.

From the moment the format was introduced, before the beginning of championship 2018, there has never been mention of a "neutral" round. There's a Croke Park round. It's disingenuous to pretend you thought it was a neutral round. It was clear in black and white from the day the vote was taken, that there was to be a home round, an away round and a Croke Park round. This ensured every quarter-finalist got a game in Croke Park. This is what the counties wanted and voted for.

From the beginning of the introduction of quarter-finals, the Leinster champions have always played their QF in Croker. Most of the time that's been Dublin and there's been no uproar. If there had been, then there may been some debate as to whether the round in Super 8s should be a neutral round rather than a Croke Park round, but there wasn't. It didn't come up. On the other hand, there has been uproar in the past when a provincial champion didn't get to play a game in Croke Park. Hence the Croke Park round was an automatic choice that everyone bought into at the time.

Should the semi finals and final be played at a neutral ground or in Croke Park?

Dublin moved the posts, they have now designated Croke Park as their home officially having played all NFL games there since 2011. The fairest and most natural thing is that all Dublin games in the Leinster and AI series bar the 2 finals should be played at a neutral venues same as every other team in Leinster and every team in the AI series. It's a mockery of the competition that 8 years later this hasn't been addressed.

no they didn't, I hate this sort of shit

Well how come they played their home game in Croke Park? Especially as you say they didn't.

Quote from: Tyrdub on July 18, 2019, 10:05:54 AM

Quote from: Dinny Breen on July 18, 2019, 09:23:01 AM

Quote from: Hound on July 18, 2019, 08:50:29 AM

Quote from: J70 on July 17, 2019, 08:26:25 PM

Quote from: tonto1888 on July 17, 2019, 07:42:51 AM
This game should be in Croke Park. That's the way the 'Super 8s' we're laid out. Cork this year, and Roscommon last year, would have had legitimate gripes about playing in Croke Park

Donegal played two away games last year, not Roscommon. Their game against Dublin in Croke Park was Dublin's home game. Their game against Tyrone was in Croke Park as a neutral venue.

Whereas Donegal's "neutral" game was against Dublin, in Croke Park, which is the same as us playing a neutral game in Ballybofey.

Where did you get this nonsense about "neutral games". There are no "neutral games" in the Super 8. Not a single one. There are home games, away games and Croke Park games.

From the moment the format was introduced, before the beginning of championship 2018, there has never been mention of a "neutral" round. There's a Croke Park round. It's disingenuous to pretend you thought it was a neutral round. It was clear in black and white from the day the vote was taken, that there was to be a home round, an away round and a Croke Park round. This ensured every quarter-finalist got a game in Croke Park. This is what the counties wanted and voted for.

From the beginning of the introduction of quarter-finals, the Leinster champions have always played their QF in Croker. Most of the time that's been Dublin and there's been no uproar. If there had been, then there may been some debate as to whether the round in Super 8s should be a neutral round rather than a Croke Park round, but there wasn't. It didn't come up. On the other hand, there has been uproar in the past when a provincial champion didn't get to play a game in Croke Park. Hence the Croke Park round was an automatic choice that everyone bought into at the time.

Should the semi finals and final be played at a neutral ground or in Croke Park?

Dublin moved the posts, they have now designated Croke Park as their home officially having played all NFL games there since 2011. The fairest and most natural thing is that all Dublin games in the Leinster and AI series bar the 2 finals should be played at a neutral venues same as every other team in Leinster and every team in the AI series. It's a mockery of the competition that 8 years later this hasn't been addressed.

no they didn't, I hate this sort of shit

Ah the good old school holidays, I will indulge, inform us young man/woman of where Dublin nominated as their official home venue for the Super8? And while you are at it where have Dublin every NFL home game since 2011?

As well as "Suoer 8" they play their Home  NFL matches in Croke Park too.
Remember a few years ago their hurlers had a game in Croke Park and Central GAA left a load of Dublin flags on the barriers on Hill 16 all free of charge?
Level playing field? Not on your life!

Notice how the Tipp/Laois Hurling game was at 4 while Cork/Kilkenny was only the curtain raiser?
HQ expected Dublin to be there and of course they couldn't possibly be the undercard game ::)

this is a ridiculous argument - but just for clarity, I remember last year when this came up, wasn't  it said that though Parnell Park was still officially their home ground, any county had the right, if their home venue hadn't enough capacity, to nominate and use another venue for their home game - in Dublin's case, Croke Park.

Anyhow, in case it means anything, I think the Super 8's should have fixed this flaw after last year. It's not about being fair, it's about being fair and being perceived to be fair. I think it would make no difference whatsoever to Dublin's performances and the eventual result, but as a format it is terribly flawed - for everybody.

Quote from: easytiger95 on July 18, 2019, 11:43:39 AM
this is a ridiculous argument - but just for clarity, I remember last year when this came up, wasn't  it said that though Parnell Park was still officially their home ground, any county had the right, if their home venue hadn't enough capacity, to nominate and use another venue for their home game - in Dublin's case, Croke Park.

Anyhow, in case it means anything, I think the Super 8's should have fixed this flaw after last year. It's not about being fair, it's about being fair and being perceived to be fair. I think it would make no difference whatsoever to Dublin's performances and the eventual result, but as a format it is terribly flawed - for everybody.

In reality the GAA needs the money.
The only team that can guarantee a decent level of support is the Dubs and if revenues collapse the GAA are banjaxed

I definitely agree that Dublin should not be playing 2 Super 8 games in Croke Park as it is slightly beneficial to them, but it is an exaggeration to say that both these games in Croke Park are home fixtures. The game this weekend against Roscommon is not a home game. When Dublin played Tyrone away last year, Tyrone decided to alter the pitch dimensions in Healy Park to suit their playing style. Dublin don't have that option this weekend, they have no say in how the pitch is prepared or marked so it is not a home fixture. They also do not have open access to Croke Park for training whenever they want in the run up to this game as Roscommon and Tyrone do when preparing for their home fixtures in Hyde park and Healy park.

The "get Dublin out of Croke Park" argument has now reached a frenzy. But of course there's nothing new in that. Whenever a successful Dublin team comes along we get it. We had it in the 1950s and again in the 70s. Let's face it, there are just some people around the country who don't like to see Dublin win  And the more they win the more these people feel the pain. We should pity them.

Quote from: Farrandeelin on July 18, 2019, 10:51:46 AM

Quote from: Tyrdub on July 18, 2019, 10:05:54 AM

Quote from: Dinny Breen on July 18, 2019, 09:23:01 AM

Quote from: Hound on July 18, 2019, 08:50:29 AM

Quote from: J70 on July 17, 2019, 08:26:25 PM

Quote from: tonto1888 on July 17, 2019, 07:42:51 AM
This game should be in Croke Park. That's the way the 'Super 8s' we're laid out. Cork this year, and Roscommon last year, would have had legitimate gripes about playing in Croke Park

Donegal played two away games last year, not Roscommon. Their game against Dublin in Croke Park was Dublin's home game. Their game against Tyrone was in Croke Park as a neutral venue.

Whereas Donegal's "neutral" game was against Dublin, in Croke Park, which is the same as us playing a neutral game in Ballybofey.

Where did you get this nonsense about "neutral games". There are no "neutral games" in the Super 8. Not a single one. There are home games, away games and Croke Park games.

From the moment the format was introduced, before the beginning of championship 2018, there has never been mention of a "neutral" round. There's a Croke Park round. It's disingenuous to pretend you thought it was a neutral round. It was clear in black and white from the day the vote was taken, that there was to be a home round, an away round and a Croke Park round. This ensured every quarter-finalist got a game in Croke Park. This is what the counties wanted and voted for.

From the beginning of the introduction of quarter-finals, the Leinster champions have always played their QF in Croker. Most of the time that's been Dublin and there's been no uproar. If there had been, then there may been some debate as to whether the round in Super 8s should be a neutral round rather than a Croke Park round, but there wasn't. It didn't come up. On the other hand, there has been uproar in the past when a provincial champion didn't get to play a game in Croke Park. Hence the Croke Park round was an automatic choice that everyone bought into at the time.

Should the semi finals and final be played at a neutral ground or in Croke Park?

Dublin moved the posts, they have now designated Croke Park as their home officially having played all NFL games there since 2011. The fairest and most natural thing is that all Dublin games in the Leinster and AI series bar the 2 finals should be played at a neutral venues same as every other team in Leinster and every team in the AI series. It's a mockery of the competition that 8 years later this hasn't been addressed.

no they didn't, I hate this sort of shit

Well how come they played their home game in Croke Park? Especially as you say they didn't.

No, I didn't say they never played their matches there, I meant they didn't nominate it, that decision was taken out of their hands.

Remember, at Congress last year there was a vote put to the floor. the counties, including yours, voted by a majority to keep Dublin's games in CP.

Quote from: Falcao on July 18, 2019, 12:06:03 PM
I definitely agree that Dublin should not be playing 2 Super 8 games in Croke Park as it is slightly beneficial to them, but it is an exaggeration to say that both these games in Croke Park are home fixtures. The game this weekend against Roscommon is not a home game. When Dublin played Tyrone away last year, Tyrone decided to alter the pitch dimensions in Healy Park to suit their playing style. Dublin don't have that option this weekend, they have no say in how the pitch is prepared or marked so it is not a home fixture. They also do not have open access to Croke Park for training whenever they want in the run up to this game as Roscommon and Tyrone do when preparing for their home fixtures in Hyde park and Healy park.

+1

Dublin absolutely should have 1 home game in Croke Park (or whatever pitch in Dublin they nominate including Croke Park). They absolutely should not have TWO home games in Dublin.

And GAA congress are getting their arses handed to them on a plate by the lack of interest from even Dublin supporters. These lads love a day or weekend out down the country. Give the boys in blue what they want too.

Quote from: Tyrdub on July 18, 2019, 12:53:32 PM

Quote from: Farrandeelin on July 18, 2019, 10:51:46 AM

Quote from: Tyrdub on July 18, 2019, 10:05:54 AM

Quote from: Dinny Breen on July 18, 2019, 09:23:01 AM

Quote from: Hound on July 18, 2019, 08:50:29 AM

Quote from: J70 on July 17, 2019, 08:26:25 PM

Quote from: tonto1888 on July 17, 2019, 07:42:51 AM
This game should be in Croke Park. That's the way the 'Super 8s' we're laid out. Cork this year, and Roscommon last year, would have had legitimate gripes about playing in Croke Park

Donegal played two away games last year, not Roscommon. Their game against Dublin in Croke Park was Dublin's home game. Their game against Tyrone was in Croke Park as a neutral venue.

Whereas Donegal's "neutral" game was against Dublin, in Croke Park, which is the same as us playing a neutral game in Ballybofey.

Where did you get this nonsense about "neutral games". There are no "neutral games" in the Super 8. Not a single one. There are home games, away games and Croke Park games.

From the moment the format was introduced, before the beginning of championship 2018, there has never been mention of a "neutral" round. There's a Croke Park round. It's disingenuous to pretend you thought it was a neutral round. It was clear in black and white from the day the vote was taken, that there was to be a home round, an away round and a Croke Park round. This ensured every quarter-finalist got a game in Croke Park. This is what the counties wanted and voted for.

From the beginning of the introduction of quarter-finals, the Leinster champions have always played their QF in Croker. Most of the time that's been Dublin and there's been no uproar. If there had been, then there may been some debate as to whether the round in Super 8s should be a neutral round rather than a Croke Park round, but there wasn't. It didn't come up. On the other hand, there has been uproar in the past when a provincial champion didn't get to play a game in Croke Park. Hence the Croke Park round was an automatic choice that everyone bought into at the time.

Should the semi finals and final be played at a neutral ground or in Croke Park?

Dublin moved the posts, they have now designated Croke Park as their home officially having played all NFL games there since 2011. The fairest and most natural thing is that all Dublin games in the Leinster and AI series bar the 2 finals should be played at a neutral venues same as every other team in Leinster and every team in the AI series. It's a mockery of the competition that 8 years later this hasn't been addressed.

no they didn't, I hate this sort of shit

Well how come they played their home game in Croke Park? Especially as you say they didn't.

No, I didn't say they never played their matches there, I meant they didn't nominate it, that decision was taken out of their hands.

Remember, at Congress last year there was a vote put to the floor. the counties, including yours, voted by a majority to keep Dublin's games in CP.

The decision wasn't taken out of their hands, they have to nominate a venue for the Super 8, Dublin officially nominated Croke Park. How stupid are Dublin supporters to consistently deny Croke Park as their home ground and that when they do they proclaim it makes no real difference contradicting numerous academic papers that constantly prove playing at home is an advantage.

It's not a fair competition simply when one team gets to play the vast majority their games at home. Imagine if Liverpool or Man City were told they could play 75% of their games at home, can imagine Pep or Klopp saying it's no real advantage, would they f**k!!!

Btw have Dublin ever looked to get the dimensions changed, have they ever even asked? I suspect Gavin has their training pitches marked out to the exact same dimensions as Croke Park. 

Quote from: Dinny Breen on July 18, 2019, 01:09:16 PM

Quote from: Tyrdub on July 18, 2019, 12:53:32 PM

Quote from: Farrandeelin on July 18, 2019, 10:51:46 AM

Quote from: Tyrdub on July 18, 2019, 10:05:54 AM

Quote from: Dinny Breen on July 18, 2019, 09:23:01 AM

Quote from: Hound on July 18, 2019, 08:50:29 AM

Quote from: J70 on July 17, 2019, 08:26:25 PM

Quote from: tonto1888 on July 17, 2019, 07:42:51 AM
This game should be in Croke Park. That's the way the 'Super 8s' we're laid out. Cork this year, and Roscommon last year, would have had legitimate gripes about playing in Croke Park

Donegal played two away games last year, not Roscommon. Their game against Dublin in Croke Park was Dublin's home game. Their game against Tyrone was in Croke Park as a neutral venue.

Whereas Donegal's "neutral" game was against Dublin, in Croke Park, which is the same as us playing a neutral game in Ballybofey.

Where did you get this nonsense about "neutral games". There are no "neutral games" in the Super 8. Not a single one. There are home games, away games and Croke Park games.

From the moment the format was introduced, before the beginning of championship 2018, there has never been mention of a "neutral" round. There's a Croke Park round. It's disingenuous to pretend you thought it was a neutral round. It was clear in black and white from the day the vote was taken, that there was to be a home round, an away round and a Croke Park round. This ensured every quarter-finalist got a game in Croke Park. This is what the counties wanted and voted for.

From the beginning of the introduction of quarter-finals, the Leinster champions have always played their QF in Croker. Most of the time that's been Dublin and there's been no uproar. If there had been, then there may been some debate as to whether the round in Super 8s should be a neutral round rather than a Croke Park round, but there wasn't. It didn't come up. On the other hand, there has been uproar in the past when a provincial champion didn't get to play a game in Croke Park. Hence the Croke Park round was an automatic choice that everyone bought into at the time.

Should the semi finals and final be played at a neutral ground or in Croke Park?

Dublin moved the posts, they have now designated Croke Park as their home officially having played all NFL games there since 2011. The fairest and most natural thing is that all Dublin games in the Leinster and AI series bar the 2 finals should be played at a neutral venues same as every other team in Leinster and every team in the AI series. It's a mockery of the competition that 8 years later this hasn't been addressed.

no they didn't, I hate this sort of shit

Well how come they played their home game in Croke Park? Especially as you say they didn't.

No, I didn't say they never played their matches there, I meant they didn't nominate it, that decision was taken out of their hands.

Remember, at Congress last year there was a vote put to the floor. the counties, including yours, voted by a majority to keep Dublin's games in CP.

The decision wasn't taken out of their hands, they have to nominate a venue for the Super 8, Dublin officially nominated Croke Park. How stupid are Dublin supporters to consistently deny Croke Park as their home ground and that when they do they proclaim it makes no real difference contradicting numerous academic papers that constantly prove playing at home is an advantage.

It's not a fair competition simply when one team gets to play the vast majority their games at home. Imagine if Liverpool or Man City were told they could play 75% of their games at home, can imagine Pep or Klopp saying it's no real advantage, would they f**k!!!

Btw have Dublin ever looked to get the dimensions changed, have they ever even asked? I suspect Gavin has their training pitches marked out to the exact same dimensions as Croke Park.

The motion last year was to take Dublin's games out of CP, the counties voted to keep them there, who should your gripe be with then?

I'm not denying that it is an advantage, of course it is, only a stupid person would deny that (I'm not one btw), but you're just gonna have to get over yourself.

Dublin fans would gladly travel anywhere, in fact they love it. I got messages from guys when they knew they would have to go to Healy Park who were absolutely champing to get up there, the reception and response they got last year was second to none. Dublin would gladly leave CP, I'm just not sure the other counties and Central Council would want to leave the money behind

How many will be there this weekend.
How many of those will be long term ticket people or Corporate guests in boxes?

Quote from: Falcao on July 18, 2019, 12:06:03 PM
I definitely agree that Dublin should not be playing 2 Super 8 games in Croke Park as it is slightly beneficial to them, but it is an exaggeration to say that both these games in Croke Park are home fixtures. The game this weekend against Roscommon is not a home game. When Dublin played Tyrone away last year, Tyrone decided to alter the pitch dimensions in Healy Park to suit their playing style. Dublin don't have that option this weekend, they have no say in how the pitch is prepared or marked so it is not a home fixture. They also do not have open access to Croke Park for training whenever they want in the run up to this game as Roscommon and Tyrone do when preparing for their home fixtures in Hyde park and Healy park.

That we are aware off. Is'nt it true Dublin always get the same dressing room when they play in Croker? How come they alway get to warm up down hill 16 side?  You are codding yourself if you try claim Dublin dont get serious benifits from the gaa, Although some are not Dublins fault but the Gaa bending over backwards for them.
Whatever about Championship but been let play league home games in croker is scandalous when attenances are only 20 odd thousand recently and the gaa bark on about needing 30 thousand in to break even on match day, Do Dublin Gaa pay the additional money to open it up for league games? i doubt it

Dublin fans were'nt champing to get down to Portlaoise earlier this year for the only away game they played

Quote from: armaghniac on July 07, 2019, 09:13:04 PM
Croke Park now use Dub grass from Naul, as it suited Dublin better.

This was news to me and if true a case of Croke Park prepared to suit Dublin's needs.

Quote from: easytiger95 on July 18, 2019, 11:43:39 AM


, I think the Super 8's should have fixed this flaw after last year. It's not about being fair, it's about being fair and being perceived to be fair. I think it would make no difference whatsoever to Dublin's performances and the eventual result, but as a format it is terribly flawed - for everybody.

Exactly.
Bottom line is Ros are playing Dublin in Dublin and Cork in Cork = 2 away games.
Dublin played Cork in Dublin and are playing Ros in Dublin =2 home games.
I wonder how our delegates voted in Congress knowing if we won Connacht we'd be in Dublin's group.

Quote from: Dinny Breen on July 18, 2019, 01:09:16 PM

Quote from: Tyrdub on July 18, 2019, 12:53:32 PM

Quote from: Farrandeelin on July 18, 2019, 10:51:46 AM

Quote from: Tyrdub on July 18, 2019, 10:05:54 AM

Quote from: Dinny Breen on July 18, 2019, 09:23:01 AM

Quote from: Hound on July 18, 2019, 08:50:29 AM

Quote from: J70 on July 17, 2019, 08:26:25 PM

Quote from: tonto1888 on July 17, 2019, 07:42:51 AM
This game should be in Croke Park. That's the way the 'Super 8s' we're laid out. Cork this year, and Roscommon last year, would have had legitimate gripes about playing in Croke Park

Donegal played two away games last year, not Roscommon. Their game against Dublin in Croke Park was Dublin's home game. Their game against Tyrone was in Croke Park as a neutral venue.

Whereas Donegal's "neutral" game was against Dublin, in Croke Park, which is the same as us playing a neutral game in Ballybofey.

Where did you get this nonsense about "neutral games". There are no "neutral games" in the Super 8. Not a single one. There are home games, away games and Croke Park games.

From the moment the format was introduced, before the beginning of championship 2018, there has never been mention of a "neutral" round. There's a Croke Park round. It's disingenuous to pretend you thought it was a neutral round. It was clear in black and white from the day the vote was taken, that there was to be a home round, an away round and a Croke Park round. This ensured every quarter-finalist got a game in Croke Park. This is what the counties wanted and voted for.

From the beginning of the introduction of quarter-finals, the Leinster champions have always played their QF in Croker. Most of the time that's been Dublin and there's been no uproar. If there had been, then there may been some debate as to whether the round in Super 8s should be a neutral round rather than a Croke Park round, but there wasn't. It didn't come up. On the other hand, there has been uproar in the past when a provincial champion didn't get to play a game in Croke Park. Hence the Croke Park round was an automatic choice that everyone bought into at the time.

Should the semi finals and final be played at a neutral ground or in Croke Park?

Dublin moved the posts, they have now designated Croke Park as their home officially having played all NFL games there since 2011. The fairest and most natural thing is that all Dublin games in the Leinster and AI series bar the 2 finals should be played at a neutral venues same as every other team in Leinster and every team in the AI series. It's a mockery of the competition that 8 years later this hasn't been addressed.

no they didn't, I hate this sort of shit

Well how come they played their home game in Croke Park? Especially as you say they didn't.

No, I didn't say they never played their matches there, I meant they didn't nominate it, that decision was taken out of their hands.

Remember, at Congress last year there was a vote put to the floor. the counties, including yours, voted by a majority to keep Dublin's games in CP.

The decision wasn't taken out of their hands, they have to nominate a venue for the Super 8, Dublin officially nominated Croke Park. How stupid are Dublin supporters to consistently deny Croke Park as their home ground and that when they do they proclaim it makes no real difference contradicting numerous academic papers that constantly prove playing at home is an advantage.

It's not a fair competition simply when one team gets to play the vast majority their games at home. Imagine if Liverpool or Man City were told they could play 75% of their games at home, can imagine Pep or Klopp saying it's no real advantage, would they f**k!!!

Btw have Dublin ever looked to get the dimensions changed, have they ever even asked? I suspect Gavin has their training pitches marked out to the exact same dimensions as Croke Park.

The thing is the home teams who are the subjects of these academic studies would be benefiting from conditions that Dublin do not benefit from when playing in Croke Park:

1. The away team fans would have limited access to tickets, for example I think the prem league limits away fans to max 3000
2. They would be playing on a pitch that they can access and train on at any time they wish and that they can setup any way they like ( for example Klopp clearing the snow off one side of the pitch in Anfield this year)

Neither of these conditions are true for Dublin when they play at Croke Park so those studies are irrelevant. Yes they still benefit due to lack of travel and more familiarity with the pitch than their opponents due to playing league games there but not to the extent that teams playing true home games do.

Who going to win the game or am I on wrong thread? 😂😂😂

Croke Park is Dublin's home pitch for their senior footballers. Cut out all the bullsh1t. Until a few years ago, they played every single championship game in Croke Park since 2006. It's a huge advantage, playing at home always is. They have their own dressing room, warm up at their own end and their supporters don't like to travel. They've had pathetic crowds at their championship games in neutral venues over the past few years.
The amazing thing is that this farce of playing at home so often is not even close to being the biggest scandal when it comes to Dublin GAA. We all know what that is. Let me give you a couple of figures to highlight this.

Games Development funding 2005:
Dublin - 1,351,185
Roscommon-?

Games Development 2006:
Dublin - 1,000,000
Roscommon - ?

Games Development funding 2007:
Dublin - 1,603,903
Roscommon - 8,970

Games Development funding 2008:
Dublin - 1,637,380
Roscommon - 9,470

Games Development funding 2009:
Dublin - 1,638,000
Roscommon - 48,000

Games Development funding 2010:
Dublin - 1,588,000
Roscommon - 46,500

Games Development funding 2011:
Dublin - 1,371,333
Roscommon - 48,000

Games Development funding 2012:
Dublin - 1,588,001
Roscommon - 47,500

Games Development funding 2013:
Dublin - 1,509,631
Roscommon - 45,280

Games Development funding 2014:
Dublin - 1,460,400
Roscommon - 41,000

Games Development funding 2015:
Dublin - 1,460,400
Roscommon - 41,000

Games Development funding 2016:
Dublin - 1,463,400
Roscommon - 144,748

Games Development funding 2017:
Dublin - 1,303,630
Roscommon -  146,425

Quote from: kerryforsam19 on July 18, 2019, 07:33:53 PM
Who going to win the game or am I on wrong thread? 😂😂😂

I think your on the wrong forum if you have to ask question like that

Just for those gobshites who still get confused about this being about population.

Antrim:
2007 - 11,960
2008 - 11,960
2009 - 71,167
2010 - 97,689
2011 - 89,889
2012 - 97,666
2013 - 76,842
2014 - 47,400
2015 - 47,400
2016 - 164,400
2017 - 151,400

Cork
2007 - 89,700
2008 - 44,850
2009 - 80,000
2010 - 78,000
2011 - 78,000
2012 - 78,000
2013 - 95,737
2014 - 69,000
2015 - 74,000
2016 - 249,000
2017 - 249,000

I hear we are going full attack on Saturday, no way can dubs live with us, easy win for ros.

Is McStay back as Manager :o


Syferus will be orgasmic.....

Quote from: Dinny Breen on July 18, 2019, 01:09:16 PM

Quote from: Tyrdub on July 18, 2019, 12:53:32 PM

Quote from: Farrandeelin on July 18, 2019, 10:51:46 AM

Quote from: Tyrdub on July 18, 2019, 10:05:54 AM

Quote from: Dinny Breen on July 18, 2019, 09:23:01 AM

Quote from: Hound on July 18, 2019, 08:50:29 AM

Quote from: J70 on July 17, 2019, 08:26:25 PM

Quote from: tonto1888 on July 17, 2019, 07:42:51 AM
This game should be in Croke Park. That's the way the 'Super 8s' we're laid out. Cork this year, and Roscommon last year, would have had legitimate gripes about playing in Croke Park

Donegal played two away games last year, not Roscommon. Their game against Dublin in Croke Park was Dublin's home game. Their game against Tyrone was in Croke Park as a neutral venue.

Whereas Donegal's "neutral" game was against Dublin, in Croke Park, which is the same as us playing a neutral game in Ballybofey.

Where did you get this nonsense about "neutral games". There are no "neutral games" in the Super 8. Not a single one. There are home games, away games and Croke Park games.

From the moment the format was introduced, before the beginning of championship 2018, there has never been mention of a "neutral" round. There's a Croke Park round. It's disingenuous to pretend you thought it was a neutral round. It was clear in black and white from the day the vote was taken, that there was to be a home round, an away round and a Croke Park round. This ensured every quarter-finalist got a game in Croke Park. This is what the counties wanted and voted for.

From the beginning of the introduction of quarter-finals, the Leinster champions have always played their QF in Croker. Most of the time that's been Dublin and there's been no uproar. If there had been, then there may been some debate as to whether the round in Super 8s should be a neutral round rather than a Croke Park round, but there wasn't. It didn't come up. On the other hand, there has been uproar in the past when a provincial champion didn't get to play a game in Croke Park. Hence the Croke Park round was an automatic choice that everyone bought into at the time.

Should the semi finals and final be played at a neutral ground or in Croke Park?

Dublin moved the posts, they have now designated Croke Park as their home officially having played all NFL games there since 2011. The fairest and most natural thing is that all Dublin games in the Leinster and AI series bar the 2 finals should be played at a neutral venues same as every other team in Leinster and every team in the AI series. It's a mockery of the competition that 8 years later this hasn't been addressed.

no they didn't, I hate this sort of shit

Well how come they played their home game in Croke Park? Especially as you say they didn't.

No, I didn't say they never played their matches there, I meant they didn't nominate it, that decision was taken out of their hands.

Remember, at Congress last year there was a vote put to the floor. the counties, including yours, voted by a majority to keep Dublin's games in CP.

The decision wasn't taken out of their hands, they have to nominate a venue for the Super 8, Dublin officially nominated Croke Park. How stupid are Dublin supporters to consistently deny Croke Park as their home ground and that when they do they proclaim it makes no real difference contradicting numerous academic papers that constantly prove playing at home is an advantage.

It's not a fair competition simply when one team gets to play the vast majority their games at home. Imagine if Liverpool or Man City were told they could play 75% of their games at home, can imagine Pep or Klopp saying it's no real advantage, would they f**k!!!

Btw have Dublin ever looked to get the dimensions changed, have they ever even asked? I suspect Gavin has their training pitches marked out to the exact same dimensions as Croke Park.

I would say brazen rather than stupid, they just want to defend the indefensible.

Does Connolly see any game time tomorrow night?

Quote from: Dinny Breen on July 18, 2019, 01:09:16 PM
How stupid are Dublin supporters to consistently deny Croke Park as their home ground and that when they do they proclaim it makes no real difference contradicting numerous academic papers that constantly prove playing at home is an advantage.

I've seen papers on basketball and soccer, which both say that player's performance is unaffected by playing home/away but that referee's performance is affected by partisan crowds.

Stats from 2017 and 2018 football championships, excluding all Croke Park matches, neutral matches and draws:
2017
Home wins 46%
Away wins 54%

2018
Home wins 29%
Away wins 71%

While a small amount can be put down to the way the draws work in the early rounds of the qualifiers, 2018 was still an extraordinary year for away wins. Clearly an outlier, but nothing about it in the media.

Big pitch definitely suits Dubs style of play. Unlike the Dubs hurlers, where the small pitch of Parnell suits them a lot better and playing record in Croke Park and other big pitches is much worse.

The Wimbledon Crazy Gang were famous for their home record and away record being virtually identical, as they were often outnumbered at home games and had different home venues.

Interesting that matches between Ros, Galway and Mayo in Connacht over the last number of years show no advantage/disadvantage re home/away.

Dublin playing all Leinster championship games in Croker is relatively recent. From the 70s up until then we'd always play in other grounds and Dublin footballers have a brilliant record in Leinster provincial grounds. 1 loss in 45 years. Haven't counted how many matches, but would be in excess of 60, and the vast bulk of those before the current team.

Quote from: GetOverTheBar on July 19, 2019, 09:51:33 AM
Does Connolly see any game time tomorrow night?

He was pulled from club duties on Wednesday, so at least has a chance.

Dublin's forward subs the last day were:
Andrews, Kev Mac, O'Gara, Rock, P Small

We know Brogan is training away but can't get into the 26.

I would think that O'Gara's position would be the one that Connolly could grab. If things weren't going to plan and we needed a big man in at 14 for the last 10 minutes, then Connolly is just as good in the air as O'Gara, but has the benefit of being able to use it a helluva lot better. Plus Connolly is obviously a option elsewhere also.

Gavin made wholesale changes for the Roscommon game last year (when it was last of the 3). He'll definitely do it again, especially as we'll likely be the only team with the 6 day turnaround again for the semi-final.  So it may be Tyrone before Connolly gets a run, although there's a chance that Gavin could mix things up over 2 games this year, rather than making all the changes in Game 3.

Quote from: Hound on July 19, 2019, 10:11:43 AM

Quote from: Dinny Breen on July 18, 2019, 01:09:16 PM
How stupid are Dublin supporters to consistently deny Croke Park as their home ground and that when they do they proclaim it makes no real difference contradicting numerous academic papers that constantly prove playing at home is an advantage.

Did Kildare fans moan when had play the dubs in croke park in replays in 98 and 2000 or the famous the in a row in 97?

Quote from: Hound on July 19, 2019, 10:22:02 AM
especially as we'll likely be the only team with the 6 day turnaround again for the semi-final. 

A 6 day turnaround before an an All Ireland semi-final is an utter joke. Nobody really cares when it happens the Dubs but it's still wrong.

Quote from: five points on July 19, 2019, 10:33:35 AM

Quote from: Hound on July 19, 2019, 10:22:02 AM
especially as we'll likely be the only team with the 6 day turnaround again for the semi-final. 

A 6 day turnaround before an an All Ireland semi-final is an utter joke. Nobody really cares when it happens the Dubs but it's still wrong.

Yep completely unfair. But the GAA doesn't do fairness.

Quote from: five points on July 19, 2019, 10:33:35 AM

Quote from: Hound on July 19, 2019, 10:22:02 AM
especially as we'll likely be the only team with the 6 day turnaround again for the semi-final. 

A 6 day turnaround before an an All Ireland semi-final is an utter joke. Nobody really cares when it happens the Dubs but it's still wrong.

This 'we're the victim' nonsense has to stop by all fans..there should be a two week break after super 8s.. a six day turnaround is just not right ..

Quote from: Hound on July 19, 2019, 10:22:02 AM

Quote from: GetOverTheBar on July 19, 2019, 09:51:33 AM
Does Connolly see any game time tomorrow night?

He was pulled from club duties on Wednesday, so at least has a chance.

Dublin's forward subs the last day were:
Andrews, Kev Mac, O'Gara, Rock, P Small

We know Brogan is training away but can't get into the 26.

I would think that O'Gara's position would be the one that Connolly could grab. If things weren't going to plan and we needed a big man in at 14 for the last 10 minutes, then Connolly is just as good in the air as O'Gara, but has the benefit of being able to use it a helluva lot better. Plus Connolly is obviously a option elsewhere also.

Gavin made wholesale changes for the Roscommon game last year (when it was last of the 3). He'll definitely do it again, especially as we'll likely be the only team with the 6 day turnaround again for the semi-final.  So it may be Tyrone before Connolly gets a run, although there's a chance that Gavin could mix things up over 2 games this year, rather than making all the changes in Game 3.

Sure the dubs don't work. They plenty time to rest. Probably in training camp as we speak

All Ireland semi finals a week after the round 3 group games is another major flaw in this new format, how and why it wasn't change last year i don't know.

Quote from: kerryforsam19 on July 19, 2019, 11:43:53 AM

Quote from: Hound on July 19, 2019, 10:22:02 AM

Quote from: GetOverTheBar on July 19, 2019, 09:51:33 AM
Does Connolly see any game time tomorrow night?

He was pulled from club duties on Wednesday, so at least has a chance.

Dublin's forward subs the last day were:
Andrews, Kev Mac, O'Gara, Rock, P Small

We know Brogan is training away but can't get into the 26.

I would think that O'Gara's position would be the one that Connolly could grab. If things weren't going to plan and we needed a big man in at 14 for the last 10 minutes, then Connolly is just as good in the air as O'Gara, but has the benefit of being able to use it a helluva lot better. Plus Connolly is obviously a option elsewhere also.

Gavin made wholesale changes for the Roscommon game last year (when it was last of the 3). He'll definitely do it again, especially as we'll likely be the only team with the 6 day turnaround again for the semi-final.  So it may be Tyrone before Connolly gets a run, although there's a chance that Gavin could mix things up over 2 games this year, rather than making all the changes in Game 3.

Sure the dubs don't work. They plenty time to rest. Probably in training camp as we speak

:D

Quote from: Hound on July 18, 2019, 08:50:29 AM

Quote from: J70 on July 17, 2019, 08:26:25 PM

Quote from: tonto1888 on July 17, 2019, 07:42:51 AM
This game should be in Croke Park. That's the way the 'Super 8s' we're laid out. Cork this year, and Roscommon last year, would have had legitimate gripes about playing in Croke Park

Donegal played two away games last year, not Roscommon. Their game against Dublin in Croke Park was Dublin's home game. Their game against Tyrone was in Croke Park as a neutral venue.

Whereas Donegal's "neutral" game was against Dublin, in Croke Park, which is the same as us playing a neutral game in Ballybofey.

Where did you get this nonsense about "neutral games". There are no "neutral games" in the Super 8. Not a single one. There are home games, away games and Croke Park games.

From the moment the format was introduced, before the beginning of championship 2018, there has never been mention of a "neutral" round. There's a Croke Park round. It's disingenuous to pretend you thought it was a neutral round. It was clear in black and white from the day the vote was taken, that there was to be a home round, an away round and a Croke Park round. This ensured every quarter-finalist got a game in Croke Park. This is what the counties wanted and voted for.

From the beginning of the introduction of quarter-finals, the Leinster champions have always played their QF in Croker. Most of the time that's been Dublin and there's been no uproar. If there had been, then there may been some debate as to whether the round in Super 8s should be a neutral round rather than a Croke Park round, but there wasn't. It didn't come up. On the other hand, there has been uproar in the past when a provincial champion didn't get to play a game in Croke Park. Hence the Croke Park round was an automatic choice that everyone bought into at the time.

Should the semi finals and final be played at a neutral ground or in Croke Park?

In the real world Hound, Croke Park is neutral for 31 counties. It's a home venue for Dublin. All the technical parsing in the world doesn't change that reality. That the wider GAA voted for it doesn't change it. A lot of their decisions make little sense.

As for the one-off quarters and semis (and final too), Dublin gets an advantage with those too, but it's one that the wider GAA is happy enough to live with. Tradition I guess.

But in a round robin competition like the Super 8s, it ends up with one county being singled out and penalized with two away games while one county i.e. Dublin, get two home games.

Exactly J70.
A mini league system should treat all teams the same.
I suppose we'll be doing very well to get out with a 1-24 to 0-12 here.

Roscommon should go to the Hill tomorrow for their warm up.

Quote from: Farrandeelin on July 19, 2019, 01:29:06 PM
Roscommon should go to the Hill tomorrow for their warm up.

the last time that happened was another Connacht team

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6ByVZsXNWs

Quote from: Farrandeelin on July 19, 2019, 01:29:06 PM
Roscommon should go to the Hill tomorrow for their warm up.

Wont be allowed. Dublin are home team so they always get the Home dressing room and choice of warm up end.

Oliver any info on how our delegates voted on the Donegal motion at Congress?

Quote from: Rossfan on July 19, 2019, 03:14:21 PM
Oliver any info on how our delegates voted on the Donegal motion at Congress?

I honestly dont know for sure but at the time i heard we were "advised" vote against it. I do know most county boards are bribed and threatened into voting the way they are told by the Gaa with grants and funding been handed out by how well you behave to Official Gaa/Dublin gaa . And i suspect after the contoversy over the Hyde last year around the Connaght final we didnt have much room to go against Horan/Costello

Quote from: oliverkelly on July 19, 2019, 02:50:19 PM

Quote from: Farrandeelin on July 19, 2019, 01:29:06 PM
Roscommon should go to the Hill tomorrow for their warm up.

Wont be allowed. Dublin are home team so they always get the Home dressing room and choice of warm up end.

Dog. Bone. Fill the rest in yourself

Roscommon should just park the yellow bus across the gates outside

Quote from: oliverkelly on July 19, 2019, 03:28:07 PM

Quote from: Rossfan on July 19, 2019, 03:14:21 PM
Oliver any info on how our delegates voted on the Donegal motion at Congress?

I honestly dont know for sure but at the time i heard we were "advised" vote against it.

Enough said.
I do believe Horan helped us get the CF in the Hyde last year and no doubt we'll want a biteen of a grant for the works on the Hyde.
We'll hardly swing €30m like Frank Murphy  ::)

Quote from: Rossfan on July 19, 2019, 03:47:00 PM

Quote from: oliverkelly on July 19, 2019, 03:28:07 PM

Quote from: Rossfan on July 19, 2019, 03:14:21 PM
Oliver any info on how our delegates voted on the Donegal motion at Congress?

I honestly dont know for sure but at the time i heard we were "advised" vote against it.

Enough said.
I do believe Horan helped us get the CF in the Hyde last year and no doubt we'll want a biteen of a grant for the works on the Hyde.
We'll hardly swing €30m like Frank Murphy  ::)

Are you mixing up John Horan in a  figure head role with  Páraic Duffy who was GAA chief this time last year?

Quote from: Tyrdub on July 19, 2019, 01:58:01 PM

Quote from: Farrandeelin on July 19, 2019, 01:29:06 PM
Roscommon should go to the Hill tomorrow for their warm up.

the last time that happened was another Connacht team

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6ByVZsXNWs

Yeah. That day will never be forgotten in Mayo.

Quote from: Cunny Funt on July 19, 2019, 03:55:22 PM

Quote from: Rossfan on July 19, 2019, 03:47:00 PM

Quote from: oliverkelly on July 19, 2019, 03:28:07 PM

Quote from: Rossfan on July 19, 2019, 03:14:21 PM
Oliver any info on how our delegates voted on the Donegal motion at Congress?

I honestly dont know for sure but at the time i heard we were "advised" vote against it.

Enough said.
I do believe Horan helped us get the CF in the Hyde last year and no doubt we'll want a biteen of a grant for the works on the Hyde.
We'll hardly swing €30m like Frank Murphy  ::)

Are you mixing up John Horan in a  figure head role with  Páraic Duffy who was GAA chief this time last year?

Hadn't Duffy gone 3 or 4 months earlier and been replaced by Tom Ryan?
As I heard it Horan helped  convince JP to let us have the 2018 Final.
JP gave in  provided Ros CB stated  that they accepted it was the CC's right to decide the venue for the CF and that no more Finals till the up gradecwirks were done.

Roscommon team named.

Darren O'Malley - Michael Glaveys
David Murray - Pádraig Pearses
Seán Mullooly - Strokestown
Conor Daly - Pádraig Pearses
Niall Daly - Pádraig Pearses
Conor Hussey - Michael Glaveys
Ronan Daly - Pádraig Pearses
Tadgh O'Rourke - Tulsk
Shane Killoran - Elphin
Brian Stack - St Brigids
Cathal Cregg - Western Gaels
Niall Kilroy - Fuerty
Diarmuid Murtagh - St Faithleachs
Conor Cox - Listowel Emmetts
Enda Smith - Boyle (C)

I hope we can stay the pace with the dubs but our s&c has a bit to go yet after a couple of years of neglect. Going to have a small investment on ros +14 and a bit of Diarmuid at 9/1 for first goalscorer. Not making any plans yet on how ill spend the winnings ;D

I hope that the Roscommon team are more focused on the actual game than their supporters seem to be. I'd venture to say that the team aren't wallowing in self-pity at the unfairness of the world.

Quote from: The Hill is Blue on July 19, 2019, 09:20:20 PM
I hope that the Roscommon team are more focused on the actual game than their supporters seem to be. I'd venture to say that the team aren't wallowing in self-pity at the unfairness of the world.

I have to say the Rossies on this board have been as positive as one could. Most of the negativity have been from neutral observers.

Quote from: The Hill is Blue on July 19, 2019, 09:20:20 PM
I hope that the Roscommon team are more focused on the actual game than their supporters seem to be. I'd venture to say that the team aren't wallowing in self-pity at the unfairness of the world.

The sense of entitlement is dripping from this one.

Quote from: The Hill is Blue on July 19, 2019, 09:20:20 PM
I hope that the Roscommon team are more focused on the actual game than their supporters seem to be. I'd venture to say that the team aren't wallowing in self-pity at the unfairness of the world.

How many division 1 teams have Dublin played in the championship in 2019?
Roscommon have played 3 already

Any prediction on scores? ;D ;D ;D ;D

Quote from: kerryforsam19 on July 19, 2019, 10:34:15 PM
Any prediction on scores? ;D ;D ;D ;D

On the prediction thread... http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=29280.165

Quote from: manfromdelmonte on July 19, 2019, 10:14:51 PM

Quote from: The Hill is Blue on July 19, 2019, 09:20:20 PM
I hope that the Roscommon team are more focused on the actual game than their supporters seem to be. I'd venture to say that the team aren't wallowing in self-pity at the unfairness of the world.

How many division 1 teams have Dublin played in the championship in 2019?
Roscommon have played 3 already

Dublins fault no doubt.

I have never seen as much getting excuses in first as I have on here.

Quote from: Dinny Breen on July 19, 2019, 09:59:06 PM

Quote from: The Hill is Blue on July 19, 2019, 09:20:20 PM
I hope that the Roscommon team are more focused on the actual game than their supporters seem to be. I'd venture to say that the team aren't wallowing in self-pity at the unfairness of the world.

The sense of entitlement is dripping from this one.

Absolutely Dinny.

Dubs unchanged for tonight .

https://www.dublingaa.ie/news/senior-footballers-unchanged-for-ros-duel

Quote from: The Hill is Blue on July 20, 2019, 12:21:06 PM
Dubs unchanged for tonight .

https://www.dublingaa.ie/news/senior-footballers-unchanged-for-ros-duel

Strange not to see Connolly on the bench, seemed like the perfect opportunity for him to get some game time

Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on July 20, 2019, 12:23:28 PM

Quote from: The Hill is Blue on July 20, 2019, 12:21:06 PM
Dubs unchanged for tonight .

https://www.dublingaa.ie/news/senior-footballers-unchanged-for-ros-duel

Strange not to see Connolly on the bench, seemed like the perfect opportunity for him to get some game time

Not that strange, all Gavin said was that Connolly returned to training. All named subs have been training for months and would be ahead of Connolly in the pecking order.  If next weeks game is a dead rubber then all subs today will be starters and Connolly will likely get some game time in that match.

He's probably up in court or something

Quote from: manfromdelmonte on July 20, 2019, 01:42:38 PM
He's probably up in court or something

No need for that sort of shite on here. Every individual on every squad in the country has their own story.

Supreme player, be interesting to see how far off the pace he is at the moment and if has enough time to catch up. Heard, not sure if true, that he's been on a personal programme for some time being monitored by Jim Galvin/ backroom team member.

Quote from: Cunny Funt on July 20, 2019, 01:42:28 PM

Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on July 20, 2019, 12:23:28 PM

Quote from: The Hill is Blue on July 20, 2019, 12:21:06 PM
Dubs unchanged for tonight .

https://www.dublingaa.ie/news/senior-footballers-unchanged-for-ros-duel

Strange not to see Connolly on the bench, seemed like the perfect opportunity for him to get some game time

Not that strange, all Gavin said was that Connolly returned to training. All named subs have been training for months and would be ahead of Connolly in the pecking order.  If next weeks game is a dead rubber then all subs today will be starters and Connolly will likely get some game time in that match.

Let's be honest, all the named subs aren't Diarmuid Connolly. I'd have thought they'd want to et him up and running ASAP, and Roscommon in CP seems like the best time to reintroduce him.

Interesting that Bernard has replaced O'Gara on the bench. A bit more surprising is Daly into the 26, replacing Murchan. Perhaps injury related.

Gavin almost always gives the 1-15 jerseys to the lads who started the last game. It does not mean that's the starting team (dublin gaa even announced it as the 'Dublin panel')

Quote from: Hound on July 20, 2019, 01:57:21 PM
Interesting that Bernard has replaced O'Gara on the bench. A bit more surprising is Daly into the 26, replacing Murchan. Perhaps injury related.

Gavin almost always gives the 1-15 jerseys to the lads who started the last game. It does not mean that's the starting team (dublin gaa even announced it as the 'Dublin panel')

When did a Jim Gavin team last start as selected? I'd expect Rock to start tonight maybe Cooper and McCarthy also.

Quote from: Blowitupref on July 20, 2019, 02:01:07 PM

Quote from: Hound on July 20, 2019, 01:57:21 PM
Interesting that Bernard has replaced O'Gara on the bench. A bit more surprising is Daly into the 26, replacing Murchan. Perhaps injury related.

Gavin almost always gives the 1-15 jerseys to the lads who started the last game. It does not mean that's the starting team (dublin gaa even announced it as the 'Dublin panel')

When did a Jim Gavin team last start as selected?

Last week!

It's starts as selected every time he plays the same 15 in consecutive matches. If he does make tactical changes , then he doesn't announce it until before throw in. Unless serious injury or suspension, numbers 1-15 are given to the lads who started the previous game, regardless of whether they're starting this time or not.

Cooper McCarthy and Rock all starting for Dublin. Showing roscommon a lot of respect by starting their strongest 15.

The margin last year was 14 points.
At this stage you'd imagine Roscommon would be delighted to keep it to 14 points.

This is desperate

Roscommon #4 has thrown his team under the bus for the 2nd half.

I know each game is its own event, but where the f**k does this leave Mayo and Galway? Even the rest of us?

It's like a training match. Mannion was in ten yards of space to hit that long one from out by the Cusack towards the end of the half.

Sadly the biggest cheer so far was the Rossie Lad getting sent off.

Attendance of 36K. Where are the Gaa going to get the money to keep funding the Golden Child?

Quote from: MayoBuck on July 20, 2019, 07:40:06 PM
Roscommon #4 has thrown his team under the bus for the 2nd half.

Were going to get well beaten regardless  lack of discipline from Conor Daly. Roscommon have no S&C to be competitive without a break between games as seen now v Galway,Mayo and Tyrone in the last years and when you are up against the most conditioned team in Ireland its a nightmare scenario for the rossies. 

Given how the Dubs usually finish games this could easily end in a 20+ point drubbing unless they completely lose interest.

Dublin players are in some condition. Few of their forwards look in ridiculously good shape.

Quote from: From the Bunker on July 20, 2019, 07:50:25 PM
Attendance of 36K. Where are the Gaa going to get the money to keep funding the Golden Child?

Probably start cutting the funding to the rest of the county.

A stat I saw earlier

Dublin have won 8 of the last 11 Leinster U21/20 football titles and 4 out of the last 9 All-Ireland U21/U20 football titles (they're joint favourites to win the All-Ireland this year as well).
They won 7 Leinster titles and no All-Ireland in the previous 45 years.

Quote from: Cunny Funt on July 20, 2019, 07:53:44 PM

Quote from: MayoBuck on July 20, 2019, 07:40:06 PM
Roscommon #4 has thrown his team under the bus for the 2nd half.

Were going to get well beaten regardless  lack of discipline from Conor Daly. Roscommon have no S&C to be competitive without a break between games as seen now v Galway,Mayo and Tyrone in the last years and when you are up against the most conditioned team in Ireland its a nightmare scenario for the rossies.

Still a ridiculously stupid act by Daly. Two fingers to his teammates.

Dublin playing superbly. Con was just terrific in the first half, and McCaffrey's an absolute gem of a player. Roscommon though are probably perfect opponents to allow Dublin show their stuff.

Quote from: twohands!!! on July 20, 2019, 07:56:27 PM

Quote from: From the Bunker on July 20, 2019, 07:50:25 PM
Attendance of 36K. Where are the Gaa going to get the money to keep funding the Golden Child?

Probably start cutting the funding to the rest of the county.

A stat I saw earlier

Dublin have won 8 of the last 11 Leinster U21/20 football titles and 4 out of the last 9 All-Ireland U21/U20 football titles (they're joint favourites to win the All-Ireland this year as well).
They won 7 Leinster titles and no All-Ireland in the previous 45 years.

That's because of the Dublin development panels. Which get zero funding from the Games Developmet funds. The GDOs have zero interaction with the Dublin elite players.

Sweet Lantern Jazes. Just tuned in after the golf!

Whats the score lads?

Quote from: Wildweasel74 on July 20, 2019, 08:01:41 PM
Whats the score lads?

2-18 to 0-7 after 43mins
Ros down to 14 after about 30mins
Rock and Macauley with the goals

I couldn't believe the amount of people after last weekend saying Kerry's forwards are better than Dublin's. Clifford is the only one that would start for Dublin.

The super 8s have been a real step down in football excitement following the provincials. Judging by the crowds no one is too interested.

Quote from: From the Bunker on July 20, 2019, 07:50:25 PM
Attendance of 36K. Where are the Gaa going to get the money to keep funding the Golden Child?

With four teams in action, the attendance is diabolically low.
Horan and Pauric Duffy can spout all the crap they want but anyone with a titter of sense knows something has to be done and fast to tackle the cause of such low turnouts.

Quote from: Itchy on July 20, 2019, 08:06:38 PM
The super 8s have been a real step down in football excitement following the provincials. Judging by the crowds no one is too interested.

They'll have to take ALL the games out of Croke Park at this rate. Too many matches being played in funereal atmospheres. Doesn't make for an attractive product.

Quote from: Hound on July 20, 2019, 08:00:37 PM

Quote from: twohands!!! on July 20, 2019, 07:56:27 PM

Quote from: From the Bunker on July 20, 2019, 07:50:25 PM
Attendance of 36K. Where are the Gaa going to get the money to keep funding the Golden Child?

Probably start cutting the funding to the rest of the county.

A stat I saw earlier

Dublin have won 8 of the last 11 Leinster U21/20 football titles and 4 out of the last 9 All-Ireland U21/U20 football titles (they're joint favourites to win the All-Ireland this year as well).
They won 7 Leinster titles and no All-Ireland in the previous 45 years.

That's because of the Dublin development panels. Which get zero funding from the Games Developmet funds. The GDOs have zero interaction with the Dublin elite players.

Dublin GAA barely bother to do any fund-raising they are so awash with money.

Keep denying that increasing participation numbers and providing these increased numbers with professional coaching from pretty much the day they first kick a ball has no impact whatsoever 10/15 years down the road when these lads are playing senior football.

Everyone who's not from Dublin can see the blatant dishonesty and the afront to basic logic in your approach.

The GAA won't stop funding Dublin absent a collapse in attendances
Bring it on .
They do not care about competition and they deserve it

https://youtu.be/P-cPo1wqxD8

Quote from: Hound on July 20, 2019, 08:00:37 PM

Quote from: twohands!!! on July 20, 2019, 07:56:27 PM

Quote from: From the Bunker on July 20, 2019, 07:50:25 PM
Attendance of 36K. Where are the Gaa going to get the money to keep funding the Golden Child?

Probably start cutting the funding to the rest of the county.

A stat I saw earlier

Dublin have won 8 of the last 11 Leinster U21/20 football titles and 4 out of the last 9 All-Ireland U21/U20 football titles (they're joint favourites to win the All-Ireland this year as well).
They won 7 Leinster titles and no All-Ireland in the previous 45 years.

That's because of the Dublin development panels. Which get zero funding from the Games Developmet funds. The GDOs have zero interaction with the Dublin elite players.

And the peak  of Mount Everest just hangs in the air.

Quote from: From the Bunker on July 20, 2019, 07:50:25 PM
Attendance of 36K. Where are the Gaa going to get the money to keep funding the Golden Child?

Mayo supporters

The tackling from Roscommon was really lazy and indisciplined.

The lad who chucked it and got sent off in the first half should be getting some harsh words from his manager and team mates.

Con O'Callaghan looks scarily good right now.

Dublin are simply a brilliant football team regardless of all the advantages they may or may not have. But feck me their games are incredibly boring to watch.

Yeah I find their games dull as dishwater. (No dub should care I know but I don't even think the ai final will be worth watching this year)

Quote from: hardstation on July 20, 2019, 08:18:25 PM
Roscommon have almost single handedly given enough reason for binning the Super 8s and the 2 tier system. It's not right on them.

They might be doing every county a favour

There was nothing wrong with the all Ireland quarter finals being on the same weekend in August as double headers

Quote from: manfromdelmonte on July 20, 2019, 08:54:01 PM

Quote from: hardstation on July 20, 2019, 08:18:25 PM
Roscommon have almost single handedly given enough reason for binning the Super 8s and the 2 tier system. It's not right on them.

They might be doing every county a favour

There was nothing wrong with the all Ireland quarter finals being on the same weekend in August as double headers

We've 1 more year of the 'trial'.

Tonight was all that we hoped that the Super 8s would be - the sheer majesty of a Dublin team in full flow in front of an enthralled crowd on a lovely summer Saturday evening at Croke Park.

Many children will start playing Gaelic football because of what they witnessed tonight. Memories to last a lifetime.

These amazing Dubs continue to inspire.

Disappointing for the Rossies, I've been in Croker for hammerings like that and it's not nice

Quote from: kerryforsam19 on July 20, 2019, 08:36:49 PM

Quote from: From the Bunker on July 20, 2019, 07:50:25 PM
Attendance of 36K. Where are the Gaa going to get the money to keep funding the Golden Child?

Mayo supporters

Yeah, true......the fools!  ;D

Quote from: macdanger2 on July 20, 2019, 09:58:55 PM
Disappointing for the Rossies, I've been in Croker for hammerings like that and it's not nice

To be fair when we got our hammerings the place was half full of Mayo people. Bar a handful, most Rossies were out cutting their lawn at half time today!

Quote from: Farrandeelin on July 20, 2019, 08:55:53 PM

Quote from: manfromdelmonte on July 20, 2019, 08:54:01 PM

Quote from: hardstation on July 20, 2019, 08:18:25 PM
Roscommon have almost single handedly given enough reason for binning the Super 8s and the 2 tier system. It's not right on them.

They might be doing every county a favour

There was nothing wrong with the all Ireland quarter finals being on the same weekend in August as double headers

We've 1 more year of the 'trial'.

And everyone should lobby their county board to kill this thing quickly before it completely destroys our championship

Where's our friend Zulu?

Great advocate of the SUPER DUPER 8's!

Quote from: straightred on July 20, 2019, 10:30:47 PM

Quote from: Farrandeelin on July 20, 2019, 08:55:53 PM

Quote from: manfromdelmonte on July 20, 2019, 08:54:01 PM

Quote from: hardstation on July 20, 2019, 08:18:25 PM
Roscommon have almost single handedly given enough reason for binning the Super 8s and the 2 tier system. It's not right on them.

They might be doing every county a favour

There was nothing wrong with the all Ireland quarter finals being on the same weekend in August as double headers

We've 1 more year of the 'trial'.

And everyone should lobby their county board to kill this thing quickly before it completely destroys our championship

It's not the Super 8's that is destroying the Championship, Leinster is already a wasteland.

Who wants to see a one horse race ?

Quote from: Halfquarter on July 20, 2019, 10:38:35 PM

Quote from: straightred on July 20, 2019, 10:30:47 PM

Quote from: Farrandeelin on July 20, 2019, 08:55:53 PM

Quote from: manfromdelmonte on July 20, 2019, 08:54:01 PM

Quote from: hardstation on July 20, 2019, 08:18:25 PM
Roscommon have almost single handedly given enough reason for binning the Super 8s and the 2 tier system. It's not right on them.

They might be doing every county a favour

There was nothing wrong with the all Ireland quarter finals being on the same weekend in August as double headers

We've 1 more year of the 'trial'.

And everyone should lobby their county board to kill this thing quickly before it completely destroys our championship

It's not the Super 8's that is destroying the Championship, Leinster is already a wasteland.

Who wants to see a one horse race ?

Seems the GAA does, looking at their investment.

Quote from: straightred on July 20, 2019, 10:30:47 PM

Quote from: Farrandeelin on July 20, 2019, 08:55:53 PM

Quote from: manfromdelmonte on July 20, 2019, 08:54:01 PM

Quote from: hardstation on July 20, 2019, 08:18:25 PM
Roscommon have almost single handedly given enough reason for binning the Super 8s and the 2 tier system. It's not right on them.

They might be doing every county a favour

There was nothing wrong with the all Ireland quarter finals being on the same weekend in August as double headers

We've 1 more year of the 'trial'.

And everyone should lobby their county board to kill this thing quickly before it completely destroys our championship

+1.

Quote from: Halfquarter on July 20, 2019, 10:38:35 PM

Quote from: straightred on July 20, 2019, 10:30:47 PM

Quote from: Farrandeelin on July 20, 2019, 08:55:53 PM

Quote from: manfromdelmonte on July 20, 2019, 08:54:01 PM

Quote from: hardstation on July 20, 2019, 08:18:25 PM
Roscommon have almost single handedly given enough reason for binning the Super 8s and the 2 tier system. It's not right on them.

They might be doing every county a favour

There was nothing wrong with the all Ireland quarter finals being on the same weekend in August as double headers

We've 1 more year of the 'trial'.

And everyone should lobby their county board to kill this thing quickly before it completely destroys our championship

It's not the Super 8's that is destroying the Championship, Leinster is already a wasteland.

Who wants to see a one horse race ?

okay but under a straight forward knock out 1/4 final there is a chance (however remote) that they could be caught out. All this system does is give them and the other stronger teams the safety net of 2 other games to salvage the situation. Its a farce.

Quote from: manfromdelmonte on July 20, 2019, 01:42:38 PM
He's up in court or something

Where was he arrested?

Quote from: sid waddell on July 20, 2019, 09:09:44 PM
Tonight was all that we hoped that the Super 8s would be - the sheer majesty of a Dublin team in full flow in front of an enthralled crowd on a lovely summer Saturday evening at Croke Park.

Many children will start playing Gaelic football because of what they witnessed tonight. Memories to last a lifetime.

Unfortunately they'll feel let down because they have to get up for work on a Monday, so for their own food and buy their own car.... unlike the financially doped Dubs.

Dublin just seem to be getting better and better by every year, which is frightening. Although they haven't been fully tested yet, it's hard to see them lose with their power and fitness.

Whatever about the Super 8's, the Leinster championship needs to be abolished next year. Pointless competition. Even the Dubs must be getting sick of it.

I'd say the same about the Munster but at least Cork have the potential to trouble Kerry in the coming years. Then again it's Cork, so who knows.

Quote from: Silkyskillssunshinee on July 20, 2019, 11:29:53 PM
Dublin just seem to be getting better and better by every year, which is frightening. Although they haven't been fully tested yet, it's hard to see them lose with their power and fitness.

Whatever about the Super 8's, the Leinster championship needs to be abolished next year. Pointless competition. Even the Dubs must be getting sick of it.

I'd say the same about the Munster but at least Cork have the potential to trouble Kerry in the coming years. Then again it's Cork, so who knows.

How does abolishing the Leinster Championship help anything? How does the back door work? How does any Leinster team get into the Super 8's?

Quote from: sid waddell on July 20, 2019, 09:09:44 PM
Tonight was all that we hoped that the Super 8s would be - the sheer majesty of a Dublin team in full flow in front of an enthralled crowd on a lovely summer Saturday evening at Croke Park.

Many children will start playing Gaelic football because of what they witnessed tonight. Memories to last a lifetime.

These amazing Dubs continue to inspire.

;D ;D
Looking at the empty spaces all around the ground, I don't think enough kids were watching to knock together a couple of under 10 sides.

Quote from: Lar Naparka on July 20, 2019, 11:37:43 PM

Quote from: sid waddell on July 20, 2019, 09:09:44 PM
Tonight was all that we hoped that the Super 8s would be - the sheer majesty of a Dublin team in full flow in front of an enthralled crowd on a lovely summer Saturday evening at Croke Park.

Many children will start playing Gaelic football because of what they witnessed tonight. Memories to last a lifetime.

These amazing Dubs continue to inspire.

;D ;D
Looking at the empty spaces all around the ground, I don't think enough kids were watching to knock together a couple of under 10 sides.

Childer not fools, they'll see the chicken shoot for what it was unfortunately. Lack of competition = other options.

Zero atmosphere, regret going myself tonight as a neutral.  Supreme team, bit joyless. At least Mayo gave Dublin a game of it over the years even if fruitless in the grand scheme of things.

Quote from: inthrough on July 20, 2019, 11:36:23 PM

Quote from: Silkyskillssunshinee on July 20, 2019, 11:29:53 PM
Dublin just seem to be getting better and better by every year, which is frightening. Although they haven't been fully tested yet, it's hard to see them lose with their power and fitness.

Whatever about the Super 8's, the Leinster championship needs to be abolished next year. Pointless competition. Even the Dubs must be getting sick of it.

I'd say the same about the Munster but at least Cork have the potential to trouble Kerry in the coming years. Then again it's Cork, so who knows.

How does abolishing the Leinster Championship help anything? How does the back door work? How does any Leinster team get into the Super 8's?

If Dublin play teams like Mayo, Kerry, Donegal and Tyrone regularly in June/July at least we'll get to see some competitive games.

The provincial championships just don't make any sense any more. Why are counties like Carlow and Wicklow even in the same competition as Dublin? Even Laois and Kildare are way off them.

You might get a few good games in provincial every year (Roscommon-Galway, Tyrone-Donegal), but overall it just isnt worth it.

Hopefully the league and championship competitions are switched around come next year and we can have some games to actually look forward to. Why do we have to wait until August for Dublin to actually play someone competitive?

Quote from: Silkyskillssunshinee on July 20, 2019, 11:56:06 PM

Quote from: inthrough on July 20, 2019, 11:36:23 PM

Quote from: Silkyskillssunshinee on July 20, 2019, 11:29:53 PM
Dublin just seem to be getting better and better by every year, which is frightening. Although they haven't been fully tested yet, it's hard to see them lose with their power and fitness.

Whatever about the Super 8's, the Leinster championship needs to be abolished next year. Pointless competition. Even the Dubs must be getting sick of it.

I'd say the same about the Munster but at least Cork have the potential to trouble Kerry in the coming years. Then again it's Cork, so who knows.

How does abolishing the Leinster Championship help anything? How does the back door work? How does any Leinster team get into the Super 8's?

If Dublin play teams like Mayo, Kerry, Donegal and Tyrone regularly in June/July at least we'll get to see some competitive games.

The provincial championships just don't make any sense any more. Why are counties like Carlow and Wicklow even in the same competition as Dublin? Even Laois and Kildare are way off them.

You might get a few good games in provincial every year (Roscommon-Galway, Tyrone-Donegal), but overall it just isnt worth it.

Hopefully the league and championship competitions are switched around come next year and we can have some games to actually look forward to. Why do we have to wait until August for Dublin to actually play someone competitive?

Dublin won last year without playing any competitive games

Quote from: Maiden1 on July 20, 2019, 11:58:31 PM

Quote from: Silkyskillssunshinee on July 20, 2019, 11:56:06 PM

Quote from: inthrough on July 20, 2019, 11:36:23 PM

Quote from: Silkyskillssunshinee on July 20, 2019, 11:29:53 PM
Dublin just seem to be getting better and better by every year, which is frightening. Although they haven't been fully tested yet, it's hard to see them lose with their power and fitness.

Whatever about the Super 8's, the Leinster championship needs to be abolished next year. Pointless competition. Even the Dubs must be getting sick of it.

I'd say the same about the Munster but at least Cork have the potential to trouble Kerry in the coming years. Then again it's Cork, so who knows.

How does abolishing the Leinster Championship help anything? How does the back door work? How does any Leinster team get into the Super 8's?

If Dublin play teams like Mayo, Kerry, Donegal and Tyrone regularly in June/July at least we'll get to see some competitive games.

The provincial championships just don't make any sense any more. Why are counties like Carlow and Wicklow even in the same competition as Dublin? Even Laois and Kildare are way off them.

You might get a few good games in provincial every year (Roscommon-Galway, Tyrone-Donegal), but overall it just isnt worth it.

Hopefully the league and championship competitions are switched around come next year and we can have some games to actually look forward to. Why do we have to wait until August for Dublin to actually play someone competitive?

Dublin won last year without playing any competitive games

Kerry and Donegal weren't as good last year. Kerry will definitely challenge Dublin, if not this year, in the coming years with their exciting young players.

Quote from: straightred on July 20, 2019, 10:52:27 PM

Quote from: Halfquarter on July 20, 2019, 10:38:35 PM

Quote from: straightred on July 20, 2019, 10:30:47 PM

Quote from: Farrandeelin on July 20, 2019, 08:55:53 PM

Quote from: manfromdelmonte on July 20, 2019, 08:54:01 PM

Quote from: hardstation on July 20, 2019, 08:18:25 PM
Roscommon have almost single handedly given enough reason for binning the Super 8s and the 2 tier system. It’s not right on them.

They might be doing every county a favour

There was nothing wrong with the all Ireland quarter finals being on the same weekend in August as double headers

We've 1 more year of the 'trial'.

And everyone should lobby their county board to kill this thing quickly before it completely destroys our championship

It's not the Super 8's that is destroying the Championship, Leinster is already a wasteland.

Who wants to see a one horse race ?

okay but under a straight forward knock out 1/4 final there is a chance (however remote) that they could be caught out. All this system does is give them and the other stronger teams the safety net of 2 other games to salvage the situation. Its a farce.

A group stage for the last 8 was always going to be a ridiculous concept. Now you have Cork,Roscommon and probably a few other teams tomorrow forced to fulfill dead rubber fixtures when those players are better off with their clubs.

Forget this 3 year trial nonsense and bring back the straight knock out All Ireland quarter finals for 2020.

Just home from this away game.
Weary, depressed, disappointed for the lads but it was amateur boys against professional men.
Hard to know where we go from here, how many lads will have the appetite to slog it out over the winter again.
Some one said we've put a 2 tier Championship to bed.
We've probably made the case for a 3 or 4 tier championship when you think we're better than 24vir 25 if the teams out there.

Quote from: Rossfan on July 21, 2019, 12:52:19 AM
Just home from this away game.
Weary, depressed, disappointed for the lads but it was amateur boys against professional men.
Hard to know where we go from here, how many lads will have the appetite to slog it out over the winter again.
Some one said we've put a 2 tier Championship to bed.
We've probably made the case for a 3 or 4 tier championship when you think we're better than 24vir 25 if the teams out there.

It doesn't matter how much Ros improve. The championship is rigged
It would be no different if PSG played in the League of Ireland

Quote from: Rossfan on July 21, 2019, 12:52:19 AM
Just home from this away game.
Weary, depressed, disappointed for the lads but it was amateur boys against professional men.
Hard to know where we go from here, how many lads will have the appetite to slog it out over the winter again.
Some one said we've put a 2 tier Championship to bed.
We've probably made the case for a 3 or 4 tier championship when you think we're better than 24vir 25 if the teams out there.

Tough watch, there'll be a day when Ross will have a midfielder or 2 and a team to match...keep the faith. No shame today, yer lads kept at it.

Connacht abú.

Quote from: Rossfan on July 21, 2019, 12:52:19 AM
Just home from this away game.
Weary, depressed, disappointed for the lads but it was amateur boys against professional men.
Hard to know where we go from here, how many lads will have the appetite to slog it out over the winter again.
Some one said we've put a 2 tier Championship to bed.
We've probably made the case for a 3 or 4 tier championship when you think we're better than 24vir 25 if the teams out there.

You have my respect. I really don't know anything else Roscommon can do. Fair play for keeping your provincial championship alive at the very least.

I know.
But I also know  that we will only ever win Connachts, Div 2s and in the future Intermediate All Irelands.
There will be no more 1943s or 44s.
Nor Cavan nor Offaly winning Sam again.
Sorry for Monaghan, Sligo, Westmeath, Laois etc who didn't win one back in the days of true amateurism.
We haven't even got dreams any more and when that happens it's not a good place to be.

That is a tough read  ,Rosfan. Very tough for the players to be able to put in the effort year after year knowing there is no hope of ultimate success.Watched only pieces of todays game and I was one who would never miss any part of any championship game.Dublin will win this years all Ireland and they can win the next 5 for all I care.The system is rigged in there favor no matter what spiel we are fed from Croke Park and it is not going to change.

I like everyone else expected Dublin to win but i thought Roscommon would give a better account of themselves and i feel the 18 point margin in the end highlighted that their S&C/fitness still needs major improvement before they can handle 2 big games in 7 days against the top 4 teams. The Dubs were in a ruthless mood and even in the last ten minutes they outscored Roscommon 0-7 to a point. The Dubs remain the best and team to beat and its hard to make a case for any team to beat them this summer.

The group now left with two dead rubbers and i really think its time to go back to knock out football for the quarter final stage.

Quote from: Rossfan on July 21, 2019, 01:37:22 AM
I know.
But I also know  that we will only ever win Connachts, Div 2s and in the future Intermediate All Irelands.
There will be no more 1943s or 44s.
Nor Cavan nor Offaly winning Sam again.
Sorry for Monaghan, Sligo, Westmeath, Laois etc who didn't win one back in the days of true amateurism.
We haven't even got dreams any more and when that happens it's not a good place to be.

People are voting on the turnstiles. I hate to tell you, but you were doing your team more of a favour not turning up this evening. 

All a question of demographics & money. When u have vast majority of playing population & the resources to coach them to highest level over last 15 years how would u not be best team? Only solution is not a GAA one, but when people can work from rural areas & not have to work in Dublin. And GAA properly fund other counties in relation to Dublin

Quote from: Blowitupref on July 21, 2019, 02:09:28 AM
I like everyone else expected Dublin to win but i thought Roscommon would give a better account of themselves and i feel the 18 point margin in the end highlighted that their S&C/fitness still needs major improvement before they can handle 2 big games in 7 days against the top 4 teams. The Dubs were in a ruthless mood and even in the last ten minutes they outscored Roscommon 0-7 to a point. The Dubs remain the best and team to beat and its hard to make a case for any team to beat them this summer.

The group now left with two dead rubbers and i really think its time to go back to knock out football for the quarter final stage.

They were far from in a ruthless mood in 2nd half. Needed to be there to see what a damp squib it was perhaps. If Dublin put foot down could've won by silly score (difference was plenty big).

Quote from: fearsiuil on July 21, 2019, 03:36:18 AM

Quote from: Blowitupref on July 21, 2019, 02:09:28 AM
I like everyone else expected Dublin to win but i thought Roscommon would give a better account of themselves and i feel the 18 point margin in the end highlighted that their S&C/fitness still needs major improvement before they can handle 2 big games in 7 days against the top 4 teams. The Dubs were in a ruthless mood and even in the last ten minutes they outscored Roscommon 0-7 to a point. The Dubs remain the best and team to beat and its hard to make a case for any team to beat them this summer.

The group now left with two dead rubbers and i really think its time to go back to knock out football for the quarter final stage.

They were far from in a ruthless mood in 2nd half. Needed to be there to see what a damp squib it was perhaps. If Dublin put foot down could've won by silly score (difference was plenty big).

Weren't far off their 1st half scoring. 1-15 1st half to 1-11 2nd half, other teams would ease off a lot more with such a half time lead but Dublin have subs that are playing for starting spots.  Ruthless as in their nearly punished every little or big mistake Roscommon made and both goals came when the the rossies had the ball and lost it.

What's the beak even attendance figure for Croke Park?

Did someone mention 30k is needed to break even based on the cost of the event itself.

Quote from: macdanger2 on July 20, 2019, 09:58:55 PM
Disappointing for the Rossies, I've been in Croker for hammerings like that and it's not nice

Me too. Sympathies for the Rossies in attendance last night. Dublin put 4-24 past Armagh in a league game seven or eight years ago in Croker, with the writing on the wall after five minutes of the match. It was painful staying to the end. 

Quote from: highorlow on July 21, 2019, 09:31:06 AM
What's the beak even attendance figure for Croke Park?

Did someone mention 30k is needed to break even based on the cost of the event itself.

That figure gets thrown around a lot but it's actually false. If you think about it how could any number like that be accurate when ticket prices vary considerably between games. For example, none of the upper tiers or nally terrace was open yesterday so that's a saving straight away.

When you include corporate boxes and the fact that takings from shops/bars inside all go to the GAA, a crowd in Croke Park is more profitable than a similar one in another county ground. That's why so many games are in Croker.

Quote from: Blowitupref on July 21, 2019, 03:56:24 AM

Quote from: fearsiuil on July 21, 2019, 03:36:18 AM

Quote from: Blowitupref on July 21, 2019, 02:09:28 AM
I like everyone else expected Dublin to win but i thought Roscommon would give a better account of themselves and i feel the 18 point margin in the end highlighted that their S&C/fitness still needs major improvement before they can handle 2 big games in 7 days against the top 4 teams. The Dubs were in a ruthless mood and even in the last ten minutes they outscored Roscommon 0-7 to a point. The Dubs remain the best and team to beat and its hard to make a case for any team to beat them this summer.

The group now left with two dead rubbers and i really think its time to go back to knock out football for the quarter final stage.

They were far from in a ruthless mood in 2nd half. Needed to be there to see what a damp squib it was perhaps. If Dublin put foot down could've won by silly score (difference was plenty big).

Weren't far off their 1st half scoring. 1-15 1st half to 1-11 2nd half, other teams would ease off a lot more with such a half time lead but Dublin have subs that are playing for starting spots.  Ruthless as in their nearly punished every little or big mistake Roscommon made and both goals came when the the rossies had the ball and lost it.

Daly sent off nice and early, took off some of their more incisive players (Mannion, Kilkenny, McCaffrey & O'Callaghan)and subs clearly not at same level. Dublin tend to put their big scores v teams as they tire in 2nd half. It was a far less ruthless than it could have been.

So Roscommon basically need to focus on the Connacht championship and beating their neighbours from now on.

Would playing the game in e.g. Tullamore have made a difference?

Quote from: manfromdelmonte on July 21, 2019, 11:12:41 AM
So Roscommon basically need to focus on the Connacht championship and beating their neighbours from now on.

Would playing the game in e.g. Tullamore have made a difference?

The  rossies were lucky mayo were peaking for August. Pure fluke rossies winning

I can't believe no one seen this hammering coming! Galway and Mayo have gone back considerably this year. They are two counties running on empty. So thinking Roscommon were going anywhere by beating either of those was fantasy. The Rossies conceded 4-24 in last years dead rubber super 8 game. Dublin played a lot of their fringe players in that game.

QuoteI can't believe no one seen this hammering coming!

What do you mean. Most people expected it including most Ros supporters. Part of the reason for the small crowd that travelled.

Quote from: From the Bunker on July 21, 2019, 11:33:43 AM
I can't believe no one seen this hammering coming! Galway and Mayo have gone back considerably this year. They are two counties running on empty. So thinking Roscommon were going anywhere by beating either of those was fantasy. The Rossies conceded 4-24 in last years dead rubber super 8 game. Dublin played a lot of their fringe players in that game.

I thought virtually everyone saw this hammering coming?  :o

Quote from: BennyHarp on July 21, 2019, 11:41:54 AM

Quote from: From the Bunker on July 21, 2019, 11:33:43 AM
I can't believe no one seen this hammering coming! Galway and Mayo have gone back considerably this year. They are two counties running on empty. So thinking Roscommon were going anywhere by beating either of those was fantasy. The Rossies conceded 4-24 in last years dead rubber super 8 game. Dublin played a lot of their fringe players in that game.

I thought virtually everyone saw this hammering coming?  :o

Yes, but there seems to be a sense of surprise of the manner of it! 

roscommon aren't a bad team. The result is more a reflection of how much superior Dublin are to anyone else than anything relating to them. Their cork match should be interesting and I hope they both go for it.

Quote from: MayoBuck on July 21, 2019, 10:37:22 AM

Quote from: highorlow on July 21, 2019, 09:31:06 AM
What's the beak even attendance figure for Croke Park?

Did someone mention 30k is needed to break even based on the cost of the event itself.

That figure gets thrown around a lot but it's actually false. If you think about it how could any number like that be accurate when ticket prices vary considerably between games. For example, none of the upper tiers or nally terrace was open yesterday so that's a saving straight away.

When you include corporate boxes and the fact that takings from shops/bars inside all go to the GAA, a crowd in Croke Park is more profitable than a similar one in another county ground. That's why so many games are in Croker.

That's what Peter McKenna once said and I have no reason to disbelieve him. When you factor insurance and maintenance costs in  and that only a percentage of the bar/fast food  etc. takings goes to the GAA, the  apparent profits shrink considerably.

Quote from: Lar Naparka on July 21, 2019, 12:04:32 PM

Quote from: MayoBuck on July 21, 2019, 10:37:22 AM

Quote from: highorlow on July 21, 2019, 09:31:06 AM
What's the beak even attendance figure for Croke Park?

Did someone mention 30k is needed to break even based on the cost of the event itself.

That figure gets thrown around a lot but it's actually false. If you think about it how could any number like that be accurate when ticket prices vary considerably between games. For example, none of the upper tiers or nally terrace was open yesterday so that's a saving straight away.

When you include corporate boxes and the fact that takings from shops/bars inside all go to the GAA, a crowd in Croke Park is more profitable than a similar one in another county ground. That's why so many games are in Croker.

That's what Peter McKenna once said and I have no reason to disbelieve him. When you factor insurance and maintenance costs in  and that only a percentage of the bar/fast food  etc. takings goes to the GAA, the  apparent profits shrink considerably.

Yes but every ground has insurance and maintenance costs. Having a double header in Croker is considerably cheaper than opening up 2 provincial grounds.

Quote from: Silkyskillssunshinee on July 20, 2019, 11:29:53 PM
Dublin just seem to be getting better and better by every year, which is frightening. Although they haven't been fully tested yet, it's hard to see them lose with their power and fitness.

Whatever about the Super 8's, the Leinster championship needs to be abolished next year. Pointless competition. Even the Dubs must be getting sick of it.

I'd say the same about the Munster but at least Cork have the potential to trouble Kerry in the coming years. Then again it's Cork, so who knows.
And when the Dubs win the next 4 or 5 all irelands will they abolish that as well.

Quote from: From the Bunker on July 21, 2019, 11:51:40 AM

Quote from: BennyHarp on July 21, 2019, 11:41:54 AM

Quote from: From the Bunker on July 21, 2019, 11:33:43 AM
I can't believe no one seen this hammering coming! Galway and Mayo have gone back considerably this year. They are two counties running on empty. So thinking Roscommon were going anywhere by beating either of those was fantasy. The Rossies conceded 4-24 in last years dead rubber super 8 game. Dublin played a lot of their fringe players in that game.

I thought virtually everyone saw this hammering coming?  :o

Yes, but there seems to be a sense of surprise of the manner of it!

I thought they might have made a game of it for 50-55 minutes (as in be within five or six points). Instead, the game was over after 20.

Quote from: J70 on July 21, 2019, 01:05:26 PM

Quote from: From the Bunker on July 21, 2019, 11:51:40 AM

Quote from: BennyHarp on July 21, 2019, 11:41:54 AM

Quote from: From the Bunker on July 21, 2019, 11:33:43 AM
I can't believe no one seen this hammering coming! Galway and Mayo have gone back considerably this year. They are two counties running on empty. So thinking Roscommon were going anywhere by beating either of those was fantasy. The Rossies conceded 4-24 in last years dead rubber super 8 game. Dublin played a lot of their fringe players in that game.

I thought virtually everyone saw this hammering coming?  :o

Yes, but there seems to be a sense of surprise of the manner of it!

I thought they might have made a game of it for 50-55 minutes (as in be within five or six points). Instead, the game was over after 20.

Same here and i thought they would end up conceding something like 1-19 instead of 2-26. Looked very flat yesterday after the effort to be competitive v Tyrone the week before.

Quote from: MayoBuck on July 21, 2019, 12:47:24 PM

Quote from: Lar Naparka on July 21, 2019, 12:04:32 PM

Quote from: MayoBuck on July 21, 2019, 10:37:22 AM

Quote from: highorlow on July 21, 2019, 09:31:06 AM
What's the beak even attendance figure for Croke Park?

Did someone mention 30k is needed to break even based on the cost of the event itself.

That figure gets thrown around a lot but it's actually false. If you think about it how could any number like that be accurate when ticket prices vary considerably between games. For example, none of the upper tiers or nally terrace was open yesterday so that's a saving straight away.

When you include corporate boxes and the fact that takings from shops/bars inside all go to the GAA, a crowd in Croke Park is more profitable than a similar one in another county ground. That's why so many games are in Croker.

That's what Peter McKenna once said and I have no reason to disbelieve him. When you factor insurance and maintenance costs in  and that only a percentage of the bar/fast food  etc. takings goes to the GAA, the  apparent profits shrink considerably.

Yes but every ground has insurance and maintenance costs. Having a double header in Croker is considerably cheaper than opening up 2 provincial grounds.

Attention focuses on the unfairness of the Dubs playing in Porky Crokey but if you look
at it from the point of view of the spreadsheet jockeys at HQ the GAA
need the revenues . They do not care about the product.


The All Ireland at this stage is a revenue Ponzi scheme

The Dubs are like a supertrawler scraping the sea floor for fish

Ros is a small boat on Lough Ree

Quote from: manfromdelmonte on July 21, 2019, 11:12:41 AM
So Roscommon basically need to focus on the Connacht championship and beating their neighbours from now on.

Would playing the game in e.g. Tullamore have made a difference?

Not to the outcome but at least there would gave been a fairly full stadium and some atmosphere and sense of occasion.

Quote from: manfromdelmonte on July 20, 2019, 01:42:38 PM
He's probably up in court or something

http://www.hoganstand.com/Dublin/Article/Index/301956

Quote from: Rossfan on July 21, 2019, 12:52:19 AM
Just home from this away game.
Weary, depressed, disappointed for the lads but it was amateur boys against professional men.
Hard to know where we go from here, how many lads will have the appetite to slog it out over the winter again.
Some one said we've put a 2 tier Championship to bed.
We've probably made the case for a 3 or 4 tier championship when you think we're better than 24vir 25 if the teams out there.

If a Roscommon team that have beaten Mayo (league champs) in castle bar and Galway (ai semifinalists) in salt hill aren't in the top tier of a proposed tiered championship then there's something badly wrong. Who's in the top tier of your proposed championship? Donegal and Tyrone? Hammered by Dublin last year in croker and Kerry who are lining themselves up for the same fate.

Time for people to take their heads out of the sand and realise there's a problem with one team not the remaining 31.

Quote from: Rossfan on July 21, 2019, 01:37:22 AM
I know.
But I also know  that we will only ever win Connachts, Div 2s and in the future Intermediate All Irelands.
There will be no more 1943s or 44s.
Nor Cavan nor Offaly winning Sam again.
Sorry for Monaghan, Sligo, Westmeath, Laois etc who didn't win one back in the days of true amateurism.
We haven't even got dreams any more and when that happens it's not a good place to be.

It's been almost 80 years since you've been winning AI's. In a year that you've beaten Galway and Mayo and matched a fair few of the div1 sides in the league (including drawing with AI finalists Tyrone in a match you should have won) I find it incredible that getting tanked by a financially doped superside has you giving up all hope and asking to be playing in the Tommy Murphy Cup.

Quote from: The Hill is Blue on July 21, 2019, 02:33:31 PM

Quote from: manfromdelmonte on July 20, 2019, 01:42:38 PM
He's probably up in court or something

http://www.hoganstand.com/Dublin/Article/Index/301956

Well done Dermo!

Trileac will you stop putting words in my mouth.
Go do your rant on its own merits.

Quote from: From the Bunker on July 21, 2019, 03:15:19 PM

Quote from: The Hill is Blue on July 21, 2019, 02:33:31 PM

Quote from: manfromdelmonte on July 20, 2019, 01:42:38 PM
He's probably up in court or something

http://www.hoganstand.com/Dublin/Article/Index/301956

Well done Dermo!

he is supporting someone bringing up a child in Cavan as a Dubs supporter. Have they not enough people in Dublin as it is without going to Ulster to look for more?

Quote from: From the Bunker on July 21, 2019, 11:33:43 AM
I can't believe no one seen this hammering coming! Galway and Mayo have gone back considerably this year. They are two counties running on empty. So thinking Roscommon were going anywhere by beating either of those was fantasy. The Rossies conceded 4-24 in last years dead rubber super 8 game. Dublin played a lot of their fringe players in that game.

Mayo just 1 win away from reaching the last 4 now and Galway might have been in the same place if they had won that round 4 tie v Mayo. Roscommon beating both away doesn't happen often and shouldn't belittled. Why some thought Roscommon would be somewhat competitive was because they showed improvement in a year v Tyrone and for 55 minutes Cork was competitive v Dublin.

Last years game was a dead rubber game whereby both played fringe players in that game.

Quote from: Cunny Funt on July 21, 2019, 04:15:02 PM

Quote from: From the Bunker on July 21, 2019, 11:33:43 AM
I can't believe no one seen this hammering coming! Galway and Mayo have gone back considerably this year. They are two counties running on empty. So thinking Roscommon were going anywhere by beating either of those was fantasy. The Rossies conceded 4-24 in last years dead rubber super 8 game. Dublin played a lot of their fringe players in that game.

Mayo just 1 win away from reaching the last 4 now and Galway might have been in the same place if they had won that round 4 tie v Mayo. Roscommon beating both away doesn't happen often and shouldn't belittled. Why some thought Roscommon would be somewhat competitive was because they showed improvement in a year v Tyrone and for 55 minutes Cork was competitive v Dublin.

Last years game was a dead rubber game whereby both played fringe players in that game.

Not belittling Roscommons year. Massive results against Galway and Mayo. But how can you sell a game to players where you are telling them to do their best and keep the score down? It's depressing.

Quote from: From the Bunker on July 21, 2019, 04:26:37 PM

Quote from: Cunny Funt on July 21, 2019, 04:15:02 PM

Quote from: From the Bunker on July 21, 2019, 11:33:43 AM
I can't believe no one seen this hammering coming! Galway and Mayo have gone back considerably this year. They are two counties running on empty. So thinking Roscommon were going anywhere by beating either of those was fantasy. The Rossies conceded 4-24 in last years dead rubber super 8 game. Dublin played a lot of their fringe players in that game.

Mayo just 1 win away from reaching the last 4 now and Galway might have been in the same place if they had won that round 4 tie v Mayo. Roscommon beating both away doesn't happen often and shouldn't belittled. Why some thought Roscommon would be somewhat competitive was because they showed improvement in a year v Tyrone and for 55 minutes Cork was competitive v Dublin.

Last years game was a dead rubber game whereby both played fringe players in that game.

Not belittling Roscommons year. Massive results against Galway and Mayo. But how can you sell a game to players where you are telling them to do their best and keep the score down? It's depressing.

Roscommon have played 4 division 1 teams in a row

Quote from: Rossfan on July 21, 2019, 03:48:15 PM
Trileac will you stop putting words in my mouth.
Go do your rant on its own merits.

Explain to us how this tiered championship that your advocating would work then? Don't go advocating changing the whole championship structure without first showing us how the hell it'll be of benefit to anyone.

Will you fkn read what I wrote.

If you've rants about tiered Championships there's a thread for that.

Quote from: manfromdelmonte on July 21, 2019, 04:30:56 PM

Quote from: From the Bunker on July 21, 2019, 04:26:37 PM

Quote from: Cunny Funt on July 21, 2019, 04:15:02 PM

Quote from: From the Bunker on July 21, 2019, 11:33:43 AM
I can't believe no one seen this hammering coming! Galway and Mayo have gone back considerably this year. They are two counties running on empty. So thinking Roscommon were going anywhere by beating either of those was fantasy. The Rossies conceded 4-24 in last years dead rubber super 8 game. Dublin played a lot of their fringe players in that game.

Mayo just 1 win away from reaching the last 4 now and Galway might have been in the same place if they had won that round 4 tie v Mayo. Roscommon beating both away doesn't happen often and shouldn't belittled. Why some thought Roscommon would be somewhat competitive was because they showed improvement in a year v Tyrone and for 55 minutes Cork was competitive v Dublin.

Last years game was a dead rubber game whereby both played fringe players in that game.

Not belittling Roscommons year. Massive results against Galway and Mayo. But how can you sell a game to players where you are telling them to do their best and keep the score down? It's depressing.

Roscommon have played 4 division 1 teams in a row

True!

Quote from: From the Bunker on July 21, 2019, 05:17:16 PM

Quote from: manfromdelmonte on July 21, 2019, 04:30:56 PM

Quote from: From the Bunker on July 21, 2019, 04:26:37 PM

Quote from: Cunny Funt on July 21, 2019, 04:15:02 PM

Quote from: From the Bunker on July 21, 2019, 11:33:43 AM
I can't believe no one seen this hammering coming! Galway and Mayo have gone back considerably this year. They are two counties running on empty. So thinking Roscommon were going anywhere by beating either of those was fantasy. The Rossies conceded 4-24 in last years dead rubber super 8 game. Dublin played a lot of their fringe players in that game.

Mayo just 1 win away from reaching the last 4 now and Galway might have been in the same place if they had won that round 4 tie v Mayo. Roscommon beating both away doesn't happen often and shouldn't belittled. Why some thought Roscommon would be somewhat competitive was because they showed improvement in a year v Tyrone and for 55 minutes Cork was competitive v Dublin.

Last years game was a dead rubber game whereby both played fringe players in that game.

Not belittling Roscommons year. Massive results against Galway and Mayo. But how can you sell a game to players where you are telling them to do their best and keep the score down? It's depressing.

Roscommon have played 4 division 1 teams in a row

True!

Then if teams dont accept that situation which is the way it is for the last few years then reduce the championship to 4 teams, Dublin and 3 more or maybe just hand over sam and tell them keep it, buy a new cup call it samanta and tell dublin they are not allowed to play.

Quote from: giveballaghback on July 21, 2019, 08:05:53 PM

Quote from: From the Bunker on July 21, 2019, 05:17:16 PM

Quote from: manfromdelmonte on July 21, 2019, 04:30:56 PM

Quote from: From the Bunker on July 21, 2019, 04:26:37 PM

Quote from: Cunny Funt on July 21, 2019, 04:15:02 PM

Quote from: From the Bunker on July 21, 2019, 11:33:43 AM
I can't believe no one seen this hammering coming! Galway and Mayo have gone back considerably this year. They are two counties running on empty. So thinking Roscommon were going anywhere by beating either of those was fantasy. The Rossies conceded 4-24 in last years dead rubber super 8 game. Dublin played a lot of their fringe players in that game.

Mayo just 1 win away from reaching the last 4 now and Galway might have been in the same place if they had won that round 4 tie v Mayo. Roscommon beating both away doesn't happen often and shouldn't belittled. Why some thought Roscommon would be somewhat competitive was because they showed improvement in a year v Tyrone and for 55 minutes Cork was competitive v Dublin.

Last years game was a dead rubber game whereby both played fringe players in that game.

Not belittling Roscommons year. Massive results against Galway and Mayo. But how can you sell a game to players where you are telling them to do their best and keep the score down? It's depressing.

Roscommon have played 4 division 1 teams in a row

True!

Then if teams dont accept that situation which is the way it is for the last few years then reduce the championship to 4 teams, Dublin and 3 more or maybe just hand over sam and tell them keep it, buy a new cup call it samanta and tell dublin they are not allowed to play.

Everyone is accepting the situation who pay their (hard earned) money to go to see intercounty football. You don't go there is less revenue. The lesser the revenue leaves the big wigs in Headquarters with less to give to the Golden Child project.

To be fair, counties like Cork, Kildare, Meath and Galway fan bases have moved on. Most spend their time and money at more beneficial activities.

Only foolish fan based counties like Mayo don't realise being a loyal fan is really feeding into the revenue stream that makes Dublin Stronger.

Ironically, even the Dubs are moving on! To them it has evolved into just a waiting game for the Semi-final and Final where they hope they get a game that might make them enjoy winning the 5 (insert number) in a row a bit more.

How does Jim Gavin keep a straight face when he says they were tested yesterday?

Quote from: RedHand88 on July 21, 2019, 10:56:39 PM
How does Jim Gavin keep a straight face when he says they were tested yesterday?

He always wears a baseball cap anymore and he looks away and to the ground when he's completely bluffing!

Quote from: RedHand88 on July 21, 2019, 10:56:39 PM
How does Jim Gavin keep a straight face when he says they were tested yesterday?

He didn't say that, did he? ;D

Quote from: J70 on July 22, 2019, 12:26:05 AM

Quote from: RedHand88 on July 21, 2019, 10:56:39 PM
How does Jim Gavin keep a straight face when he says they were tested yesterday?

He didn't say that, did he? ;D

Of course he did. He was right to say it. He could not have said anything else.

Dublin too good, next please.

I think Dublin are getting better, the forward movement and passing is on another plain of existence.

A joy to watch it.

Hoping for a test in Omagh, im sure it will be delivered.

Dublin hit in long ball to their full forward line as even a blind man could see that the Ros fb line struggled under that delivery against Leitrim

You wouldn't need the 5 stats fellas that Dublin employ to work that out

Unlike the past we don't seem to produce defenders any more :(
We can cope reasonably well with hand passing type teams but quick ball into one on one situations and we're fecked.
I heard McInerney will be coming back next year which wont do any harm.

Quote from: RedHand88 on July 21, 2019, 10:56:39 PM
How does Jim Gavin keep a straight face when he says they were tested yesterday?

A lot of practice.

Quote from: Rossfan on July 22, 2019, 12:19:18 PM
Unlike the past we don't seem to produce defenders any more :(
We can cope reasonably well with hand passing type teams but quick ball into one on one situations and we're fecked.
I heard McInerney will be coming back next year which wont do any harm.

The best player on the pitch imo was Cox, what does this tell us, or tell Kerry, would he get on the Kerry panel?

Conor Cox was best player on pitch last Saturday.  Without him the rossies wouldn't have beaten Galway or Mayo. Cunningham priority will be to keep Cox on board as I believe Peter Keane approached to be involved with Kerry in 2020.

Quote from: kerryforsam19 on July 29, 2019, 06:04:57 PM
Conor Cox was best player on pitch last Saturday.  Without him the rossies wouldn't have beaten Galway or Mayo. Cunningham priority will be to keep Cox on board as I believe Peter Keane approached to be involved with Kerry in 2020.

Cox not going anywhere, he is living in Loughglin and will be transferring to the local Eire og club at the end of this club season.

Couldn't find anywhere better for this ...
Ros Champions of 2018 now out of Championship contention after Boyle hammered them tonight.
Brigids only 1 point from 2 games still in contention but not impressing and may well be dumped in Round 3.
Relegation Final could yet be the "Big 2" :D

Donie Smith put up a big score at the weekend

Mick Rock nominated for the Presidency by Ros Co Board.
Also rumours Arnagh are to nominate Jarlath Burns.

Quote from: Rossfan on September 19, 2019, 12:03:44 PM
Mick Rock nominated for the Presidency by Ros Co Board.
Also rumours Arnagh are to nominate Jarlath Burns.

Thought I saw it on Twitter Burns was nominated already?
He seems quite young for the role. What is his occupation?

I think Jarlath is/was a headmaster of a large school in Armagh.
Mick is a retired teacher, was Cathaoirleach of Comhairle Chonnachta a few years ago.

Quote from: Rossfan on September 19, 2019, 12:47:47 PM
I think Jarlath is/was a headmaster of a large school in Armagh.
Mick is a retired teacher, was Cathaoirleach of Comhairle Chonnachta a few years ago.

Still is the principal at St Paul's Bessbrook.

http://www.stpaulsbessbrook.org/about/principals-welcome/