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#16
Hurling Discussion / Re: Hurling 2022
July 18, 2022, 12:43:28 AM
I am far from an expert in hurling but the last two years in particular have thrown up 2 points that imo need made after todays brilliant spectacle

1) +ve the manilness/integrity/toughness physicality of the players has to be applauded (footballers take note) and celebrated - the aerobic output plus physicality was outstanding (however can't make head nor tail of what's a foul or not - thought Kilkenny in the last 10 where hard done by looking on from the work they needed to do to get a free v Limerick)

2) Does the sliotar design need amending to stop the outrageously long points being taken - I know this is really political and sensitive on some parts as well as appreciating the skill and technique level but there seems in the last 15 mins it was a game of who could find space anywhere and they had the power to try it - it was bit like tennis particularly Hegartys point nearly on his own 40, brilliant score but the question is should he even be thinking of taking a score there?

 
#17
Tyrone / Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
June 06, 2022, 02:18:04 PM
Think we could be heading for a period of (bullshit term) transition. Really think there was a leadership within the players all year, and it looking like a lot of players were waiting on someone else to kick on, and heard recently training really stepped up a gear in physicality/intensity when Donnelly returned, a poor reflection on the rest of the squad if true. I have no problem with lack of form which could be explained but the basic errors and discipline by key players where hugely disappointing and hopefully will be addressed by a long autumn/winter of being reminded of that. The balance will be to integrate some of the u20's by giving them time to adjust to the physicality of seniors whilst removing some guys that with all due respect haven't made an impact or can't be relied on making an impact. That said McCurry, McKernan, Kilpatrick, Meyler in particular deserve to be complimented as they (imo) where consistently performing well throughout a tough although short year - big club season/championship for a lot of players
#18
Tyrone / Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
May 04, 2022, 04:16:48 PM
Quote from: CK_Redhand on May 04, 2022, 11:13:54 AM
Quote from: WT4E on May 03, 2022, 10:12:14 PM
Cathal McFlashinthepan

Had a wonder season and now back to lacklustre level.
I think this is a bit harsh. His decision making could improve. There are times when he could claim a mark but instead takes on his man and ends up losing it. He got a couple of frees for this on Sunday, soft enough I thought. In previous years he would have taken a mark for an easy score

The good season he had he was the main target man (donnelly was in there too but McShane was the main target man and all he had to do was get and turn and shoot - now he has to play inside with mccurry and he has shown to date he doesnt have the mentality to do it, on key piece of play for me this year that sums him up was against Donegal when Munroe was running through and goal and lashed the ball over the bar, there was an angle behind the goals where when munroe was bombing through mccurry got out of the way, McShane ran on top of him and nearly bloodly blocked him, that at any level over minors is criminal never mind an All-Star. and the soft frees he is getting will be picked up by refs sooner or later, you can't be his size and throw yourself down - bench him and bring him on for the qualifiers
#19
Tyrone / Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
March 13, 2022, 10:15:49 PM
haven't been to bothered you until today, no game management against a big breeze, v naive. Any word on M Donnelly, heard he has a few injury concerns but could be rumours, his leadership was missed.
FF line is a big concern, mccurry has been very easy marked, and mcshane, from watching all the games and been at 2, he is blessed with athleticism (the catch today was class) i genuinely don't think he knows what to do half time his decision making is shocking and a big concern if he's starting and mckenna needs to figure out what he wants to do, he is a mile off as well as conroy, sheilds and any other forward backup - we have been toothless.

Think meyler, caravan and Kilpatrick have been excellent so far and have kicked on - Tyrone will be v hard to beat on dry hard ground in the summer but we are light on impact off the bench, there is 6-8 lads need big improvements immediately or we will sleep walk into another hammering in the next two weeks
#20
Tyrone / Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
February 06, 2022, 11:11:00 PM
Quote from: HokeyPokey on February 06, 2022, 08:21:48 PM
Quote from: Tyrone Gaa on February 06, 2022, 05:12:34 PM
Don't let the 4 red card debate take away from a god awful performance. From my viewpoint Peter Harte started the melee and thus earned his red. After that is any man's guess.

Tyrone were bossed by Armagh today. Reduced to long range pot shots all 1st half. All while Armagh cut through our defense like a hot knife through butter. Armagh look a well conditioned strong team, hopefully they are peaking to early but lots of work for Tyrone to do in the coming weeks to ensure Div1 status.

I wouldn't be sure how much Tyrone are prepping tactically for these league games. I would say they are focusing mostly on where they want to be come championship time and tweaking playing style etc. They aren't long back after a well earned break, Armagh must have several months team training on Tyrone. Armagh wilted a good bit in the second half, and couldn't cope with a high press off the kick out. If Tyrone do end up meeting them again, I would fully expect them to beat them.

Was in just before the Tyrone warmup, looked very casual and in parts slack and poor which carried on to the first 20kg a which was rough watching. Quite a few need a months training to get up to speed - on the pushing and shoving, Harte and McKieran at most was a red but Gough was very poor for both sides I thought. Armagh are a very hard running side, but get them in clones when the sod is hard they will run out of ideas
#21
Tyrone / Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
January 21, 2022, 08:56:22 PM
Quote from: HokeyPokey on January 21, 2022, 02:56:55 PM
https://tyronegaa.ie/2022/01/gaa-champions-tyrone-welcome-mcaleer-rushe-back-on-board-as-main-sponsors/?fbclid=IwAR2wZI6yhy_Sl7bH_HcRuvGjJrqX8ms3MUC2y9YrhMn0TzysAOx1rEBPf_g

Yes, that's the jersey design.

They could have put in more effort.I wonder is there a lot of cost involved in doing a new design? I wouldn't expect so and surely a new design would boost jersey sales. I wish they would bring back the hoops a la '03. I'd be more inclined to get a retro 2003 jersey, haven't liked or bought any of the jerseys since target express.

At least the logo is fine. I wasn't a fan of the Tyrone fabrications logo, though it was better than Hunky Dorys...


The cost of the design surely be labour and hourly rate of the artworkers plus material and sewers (which by my guess would be €10-15 if that, on the shelf), but imo to cough this up again so soon is v hard to justify, is reeks of laziness and has a hint of f**k them (us the consumers) they'll buy what we cough up, hope ONeills get hit in the sales for this bullshit, which they would deserve
#22
General discussion / Re: Man Utd Thread:
January 03, 2022, 09:53:11 PM
An example needs to be made of a few big hitters in the squad eg - Maguire stripped of captaincy ( hasn't the bottle, ability or personality for it), Rashford dropped indefinitely (him, Greenwood and Lingard seem to be a brattish, spoilt and entitled group of d**kheads atm), Lingard sold, Ronaldo benched, Cavani main striker for a few months and in general a root and branch assessment of the culture of the club, its leaders/staff and where it went so tits up ... so many players need a kick in the hole
#23
Tyrone / Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
January 01, 2022, 07:13:40 PM
Quote from: Jim Bob on December 29, 2021, 08:26:40 PM
Tyrone squad flying  out tomorrow. Being tested today. Hopefully all negative !

I'm sure its been mentioned within the squad, but Florida is one of the highest cases on the states, so if there is an outbreak when they get home that delays games there will be a hanlin
#24
Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
December 04, 2021, 08:49:41 PM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on December 04, 2021, 06:54:31 PM
Quote from: clarshack on December 04, 2021, 06:11:34 PM
Quote from: redzone on December 04, 2021, 05:34:18 PM
Quote from: Tyrone Gaa on December 04, 2021, 05:11:02 PM
Poor reflection on our club game when we lose out to Fermanagh champions. Dromore will enjoy themselves and reflect on a good year but it's failure for Tyrone once again in the Ulster Club.
No doubt about it that you know very little about Derrygonnelly. Should have been in the final a few years ago and have about 8 players that have played for fermanagh thas last few years. Game coukd have went either way and plenty of people had it 50/50 before it started. It's winter football now and that suits them

Tyrone champions should be beating Fermanagh champions. No excuses.

Quote from: Tyrone Gaa on December 04, 2021, 05:11:02 PM
Poor reflection on our club game when we lose out to Fermanagh champions. Dromore will enjoy themselves and reflect on a good year but it's failure for Tyrone once again in the Ulster Club.
Both make no sense. You have no right to expect the Tyrone champions to beat the Fermanagh champions. You're basing that assumption on Tyrone county team being better than Fermanagh county team. Its obviously not the same, shouldn't have to explain that.
Derrygonnelly are better than Dromore, it's that simple. Doesn't matter what county either team comes from.

The few games in the tyrone championship that Dromore really struggled was against a team with a quality midfielder (Dungannon and Trillick) and they struggled  against the Jones' today, wet heavy winter football clean possession round the middle is a massive boost. DG needed a day like today to win, bring a light, running team like dromore to their level, and the fact McNabb going off before getting to play with that gale Dromore just didn't have the firepower to see it out
#25
Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
October 23, 2021, 12:40:43 AM
Quote from: Fionntamhnach on October 22, 2021, 11:37:24 PM
Eskra, as expected, had too much for Urney in the JFC. Big game for Drumragh tomorrow as a win against Cookstown in the other semi-final will promote them to Division 2 for 2022.

As for Trillick vs. Killyclogher, the reds were solid without being spectacular. KC were disappointing.

killyclogher we're toothless, their small purple patch of a penalty (which was soft imo) and two points where gifted by trillick sloppy turnovers, it's crazy how you have a brilliant forward making 2,3,4 runs for a 30 yard kick pass and it was safety first, deserved tanking
#26
Tyrone / Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
August 28, 2021, 07:42:30 PM
Meyler and McGeary are different players, that performance had Doohers attitude slapped all over it. One of the sweetest Tyrone victories, but it will be forgot about if we don't bury Mayo, mighty few weeks ahead
#27
an old (extremely successful) manager drilled it in a team i played on Attitude reflects leadership, the performance, style and way a team goes about its business embodies the coach, think the calmness and ruthlessness of Dublin in their pomp, Donegal and McGuiness, Ferguson and United, Mourinho and his teams - if ever there was a performance that embodied Brian Dooher that was it, dogged, aggressive, smart, resilient against the most favoured and spoilt county in the country - sweet is no the word
#28
Tyrone / Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
July 31, 2021, 11:11:23 PM
another ulster in the bag but second half was really poor, kept kicking the ball ( which worked in the first half) but need to recognise when it's not working and run it through the hands, the game reminded me of the kerry AI semi final a few years ago, quality and dominant first half, and abject second, need to man up in the seconds half's and come out aggressive, that monaghan team is avg and needed to be put away by 5-6 points. Don't think Kerry is what they are hyped but we will need to be very good to beat them, and it not like we should be lacking motivation
#29
Tyrone / Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
July 14, 2021, 11:48:37 PM
Does anyone know how the venue decision is made for semi final and finals etc? brewster makes no sense
#30
Tyrone / Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
June 12, 2021, 07:37:15 PM
it's hardly the first time we shifted a kicking in Kerry, i remember James o'donaghoe running riot a few years ago and many of our best teams didn't have a good record as well but what would annoy me in general, we can't repay the favour in Omagh.

Today showed a lot of our best is not good enough and their best behind them, no midfield or spine, surely brennan has to start at 6, we looked very leggy, kerry had more energy power and speed, our full forward line can't win their own 50/50's, and thinking mcshane can come back in and do what he has only done for 1 year would be too much. McKenna needs to be out the field, he has been anonymous, and the simple comparison between clifford and our best young players is stark. it's going to be the odd ulster and AI semi final if we are lucky for the next 5-6 years - miles off the top 2