Poll
Question:
Mayo v Dublin Replay
Option 1: Mayo
Option 2: Dublin
Should be some match
This and the AIF will be the 2 best games of the year (do we count Wmeath Meath?)
Really looking forward to it.
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on August 09, 2015, 01:08:54 AM
Should be some match
Mayo are in better form and have possibly for the first time the better team. Clear advantage at midfield and their full forward line are very elusive.
Travelling in hope for us.
Dublin still have the better forwards in Flynn, Connolly, Brogan, Kilkenny and free taking of Rock, to me they still be the favourites come game time
Good to see we're continuing the absurd tradition of believing 'yerra cute hoorism' on the Internet will define who carries the favourites mantle into a game, in the belief that such comments could well influence the outcome of the game.
If we get within eight points of them, I'll be celebrating.
Very worried about O'Shea at FF. Rory almost always has Donaghy in his pocket, but O'Shea is a different animal as he's a footballer as well as a great fielder.
Keegan and Higgins two of the best footballers in the country. Keegan v Connolly should be another battle royale. We might be tempted to leave Connolly in at 14 for longer spells, but we also need him out the field to contest kickouts as Mayo are far stronger than us in the air, so bit of a quandary.
I'm expecting a big game from Bernard.
Should be a cracker. Impossible to call
I expect this to be a really clean affair.
I was always confident that Dublin would beat Mayo on big days until after the 2006 All Ireland semi final. Since then I have been nervous of Mayo and that has not changed. Mayo have the players to win this one.
Quote from: INDIANA on August 09, 2015, 01:20:15 AM
Travelling in hope for us.
Is the game in Limerick??? :P
Will be some clash of the titans right enough.
Hopefully a manly battle and no Tyronediving etc.
I think Mayo are stronger overall.
The Dubs have dangerous forwards and dangerous runners but I think Mayo are more solid throughout the team.
They have huge ball winning power throughout the team & a far superior defence so I'd fancy them to win this.
Really looking forward to it.
Expect Dublin to win and quite comfortably. Their forwards will be a shock to the system for Mayo and they'll find it hard/impossible to cope and if Mayo do get in front i still think they lack a bit of ruthlessness to my eyes, if Kerry or Dublin had Donegal on the ropes like that yesterday i suspect they would've won by 12+points.
Only slight doubt in my mind is if Aidan O' Shea puts in a colossal performance and destroys O' Carroll but as good as O' Shea is i can't see Gavin letting this happen, i expect Dublin to play slightly more conservatively from here on in and in truth expect them to win the All Ireland without any side getting within 3 or 4 points of them.
Quote from: galwayman on August 09, 2015, 11:07:01 AM
I think Mayo are stronger overall.
The Dubs have dangerous forwards and dangerous runners but I think Mayo are more solid throughout the team.
They have huge ball winning power throughout the team & a far superior defence so I'd fancy them to win this.
Really looking forward to it.
This is the same Mayo full back line that struggled on an average Galway full forward line.
That's superior? Interesting.
Quote from: beer baron on August 09, 2015, 11:21:40 AM
Expect Dublin to win and quite comfortably. Their forwards will be a shock to the system for Mayo and they'll find it hard/impossible to cope and if Mayo do get in front i still think they lack a bit of ruthlessness to my eyes, if Kerry or Dublin had Donegal on the ropes like that yesterday i suspect they would've won by 12+points.
Only slight doubt in my mind is if Aidan O' Shea puts in a colossal performance and destroys O' Carroll but as good as O' Shea is i can't see Gavin letting this happen, i expect Dublin to play slightly more conservatively from here on in and in truth expect them to win the All Ireland without any side getting within 3 or 4 points of them.
You can't see a leaky Dublin defence being leaky? Really?
Quote from: Syferus on August 09, 2015, 11:50:04 AM
Quote from: beer baron on August 09, 2015, 11:21:40 AM
Expect Dublin to win and quite comfortably. Their forwards will be a shock to the system for Mayo and they'll find it hard/impossible to cope and if Mayo do get in front i still think they lack a bit of ruthlessness to my eyes, if Kerry or Dublin had Donegal on the ropes like that yesterday i suspect they would've won by 12+points.
Only slight doubt in my mind is if Aidan O' Shea puts in a colossal performance and destroys O' Carroll but as good as O' Shea is i can't see Gavin letting this happen, i expect Dublin to play slightly more conservatively from here on in and in truth expect them to win the All Ireland without any side getting within 3 or 4 points of them.
You can't see a leaky Dublin defence being leaky? Really?
"I expect Dublin to play slightly more conservatively" kind of does suggest that i think their current leaky defence might be a bit leaky but they may perhaps have a sweeper employed and the half forward line drop deeper.
Quote from: beer baron on August 09, 2015, 11:56:42 AM
Quote from: Syferus on August 09, 2015, 11:50:04 AM
Quote from: beer baron on August 09, 2015, 11:21:40 AM
Expect Dublin to win and quite comfortably. Their forwards will be a shock to the system for Mayo and they'll find it hard/impossible to cope and if Mayo do get in front i still think they lack a bit of ruthlessness to my eyes, if Kerry or Dublin had Donegal on the ropes like that yesterday i suspect they would've won by 12+points.
Only slight doubt in my mind is if Aidan O' Shea puts in a colossal performance and destroys O' Carroll but as good as O' Shea is i can't see Gavin letting this happen, i expect Dublin to play slightly more conservatively from here on in and in truth expect them to win the All Ireland without any side getting within 3 or 4 points of them.
You can't see a leaky Dublin defence being leaky? Really?
"I expect Dublin to play slightly more conservatively" kind of does suggest that i think their current leaky defence might be a bit leaky but they may perhaps have a sweeper employed and the half forward line drop deeper.
I've yet to see Gavin's Dublin play well defensively in the few competitive games they have a year. The teams good enough to give them a game usually find a lot of holes at the back. I'd be hard pushed to say they're any more defensively sound than what was clearly a dying Donegal side.
Quote from: Syferus on August 09, 2015, 12:08:54 PM
Quote from: beer baron on August 09, 2015, 11:56:42 AM
Quote from: Syferus on August 09, 2015, 11:50:04 AM
Quote from: beer baron on August 09, 2015, 11:21:40 AM
Expect Dublin to win and quite comfortably. Their forwards will be a shock to the system for Mayo and they'll find it hard/impossible to cope and if Mayo do get in front i still think they lack a bit of ruthlessness to my eyes, if Kerry or Dublin had Donegal on the ropes like that yesterday i suspect they would've won by 12+points.
Only slight doubt in my mind is if Aidan O' Shea puts in a colossal performance and destroys O' Carroll but as good as O' Shea is i can't see Gavin letting this happen, i expect Dublin to play slightly more conservatively from here on in and in truth expect them to win the All Ireland without any side getting within 3 or 4 points of them.
You can't see a leaky Dublin defence being leaky? Really?
"I expect Dublin to play slightly more conservatively" kind of does suggest that i think their current leaky defence might be a bit leaky but they may perhaps have a sweeper employed and the half forward line drop deeper.
I've yet to see Gavin's Dublin play well defensively in the few competitive games they have a year. The teams good enough to give them a game usually find a lot of holes at the back. I'd be hard pushed to say they're any more defensively sound than what was clearly a dying Donegal side.
Mayo's forwards aren't Kerry's.
Mayo players spent plenty of time around Dublin last night telling everyone they were going to beat us.
So I'm sure our lads have been informed.
Quote from: INDIANA on August 09, 2015, 12:15:52 PM
Quote from: Syferus on August 09, 2015, 12:08:54 PM
Quote from: beer baron on August 09, 2015, 11:56:42 AM
Quote from: Syferus on August 09, 2015, 11:50:04 AM
Quote from: beer baron on August 09, 2015, 11:21:40 AM
Expect Dublin to win and quite comfortably. Their forwards will be a shock to the system for Mayo and they'll find it hard/impossible to cope and if Mayo do get in front i still think they lack a bit of ruthlessness to my eyes, if Kerry or Dublin had Donegal on the ropes like that yesterday i suspect they would've won by 12+points.
Only slight doubt in my mind is if Aidan O' Shea puts in a colossal performance and destroys O' Carroll but as good as O' Shea is i can't see Gavin letting this happen, i expect Dublin to play slightly more conservatively from here on in and in truth expect them to win the All Ireland without any side getting within 3 or 4 points of them.
You can't see a leaky Dublin defence being leaky? Really?
"I expect Dublin to play slightly more conservatively" kind of does suggest that i think their current leaky defence might be a bit leaky but they may perhaps have a sweeper employed and the half forward line drop deeper.
I've yet to see Gavin's Dublin play well defensively in the few competitive games they have a year. The teams good enough to give them a game usually find a lot of holes at the back. I'd be hard pushed to say they're any more defensively sound than what was clearly a dying Donegal side.
Mayo's forwards aren't Kerry's.
Mayo players spent plenty of time around Dublin last night telling everyone they were going to beat us.
So I'm sure our lads have been informed.
Oh shit! We were hoping to catch you completely unaware that we would try to win.
One thing is for sure ...
Quote from: INDIANA on August 09, 2015, 12:15:52 PM
Quote from: Syferus on August 09, 2015, 12:08:54 PM
Quote from: beer baron on August 09, 2015, 11:56:42 AM
Quote from: Syferus on August 09, 2015, 11:50:04 AM
Quote from: beer baron on August 09, 2015, 11:21:40 AM
Expect Dublin to win and quite comfortably. Their forwards will be a shock to the system for Mayo and they'll find it hard/impossible to cope and if Mayo do get in front i still think they lack a bit of ruthlessness to my eyes, if Kerry or Dublin had Donegal on the ropes like that yesterday i suspect they would've won by 12+points.
Only slight doubt in my mind is if Aidan O' Shea puts in a colossal performance and destroys O' Carroll but as good as O' Shea is i can't see Gavin letting this happen, i expect Dublin to play slightly more conservatively from here on in and in truth expect them to win the All Ireland without any side getting within 3 or 4 points of them.
You can't see a leaky Dublin defence being leaky? Really?
"I expect Dublin to play slightly more conservatively" kind of does suggest that i think their current leaky defence might be a bit leaky but they may perhaps have a sweeper employed and the half forward line drop deeper.
I've yet to see Gavin's Dublin play well defensively in the few competitive games they have a year. The teams good enough to give them a game usually find a lot of holes at the back. I'd be hard pushed to say they're any more defensively sound than what was clearly a dying Donegal side.
Mayo's forwards aren't Kerry's.
Mayo players spent plenty of time around Dublin last night telling everyone they were going to beat us.
So I'm sure our lads have been informed.
How there they. The very nerve.
Dublin teams must have great motivation for every single important match.
'' If these bleedin culchies think they can come into our city and onto our pitch and beat us .......'
It's so handy.
Dublin hammered a fairly strong Mayo team in the league.Throw in home advantage and an extra weeks break and its Dublins to lose
My Mayo cousin reckons that Dublin FB line can be 'got at' and AOS will get at least 2 goals.
He also says they will DESTROY them at centre field.
Fenton too light for the Dubs, will have to start Bastick, who is too slow.
Quote from: Jinxy on August 09, 2015, 06:19:34 PM
My Mayo cousin reckons that Dublin FB line can be 'got at' and AOS will get at least 2 goals.
He also says they will DESTROY them at centre field.
Fenton too light for the Dubs, will have to start Bastick, who is too slow.
Your Mayo cousin must have missed the league game the Dubs handled AOS very well that night
Quote from: Jinxy on August 09, 2015, 06:19:34 PM
My Mayo cousin reckons that Dublin FB line can be 'got at' and AOS will get at least 2 goals.
He also says they will DESTROY them at centre field.
Fenton too light for the Dubs, will have to start Bastick, who is too slow.
The wife? :D
Quote from: INDIANA on August 09, 2015, 12:15:52 PM
Quote from: Syferus on August 09, 2015, 12:08:54 PM
Quote from: beer baron on August 09, 2015, 11:56:42 AM
Quote from: Syferus on August 09, 2015, 11:50:04 AM
Quote from: beer baron on August 09, 2015, 11:21:40 AM
Expect Dublin to win and quite comfortably. Their forwards will be a shock to the system for Mayo and they'll find it hard/impossible to cope and if Mayo do get in front i still think they lack a bit of ruthlessness to my eyes, if Kerry or Dublin had Donegal on the ropes like that yesterday i suspect they would've won by 12+points.
Only slight doubt in my mind is if Aidan O' Shea puts in a colossal performance and destroys O' Carroll but as good as O' Shea is i can't see Gavin letting this happen, i expect Dublin to play slightly more conservatively from here on in and in truth expect them to win the All Ireland without any side getting within 3 or 4 points of them.
You can't see a leaky Dublin defence being leaky? Really?
"I expect Dublin to play slightly more conservatively" kind of does suggest that i think their current leaky defence might be a bit leaky but they may perhaps have a sweeper employed and the half forward line drop deeper.
I've yet to see Gavin's Dublin play well defensively in the few competitive games they have a year. The teams good enough to give them a game usually find a lot of holes at the back. I'd be hard pushed to say they're any more defensively sound than what was clearly a dying Donegal side.
Mayo's forwards aren't Kerry's.
Mayo players spent plenty of time around Dublin last night telling everyone they were going to beat us.
So I'm sure our lads have been informed.
Jaysus, that's shocking stuff. I hope when the Dublin players hear they'll train really, really hard this week.
We will win this one with a lot more ease than most would be imagining.
AOS is unmarkable, he could score another hat trick in this one.
Quote from: INDIANA on August 09, 2015, 12:15:52 PM
Quote from: Syferus on August 09, 2015, 12:08:54 PM
Quote from: beer baron on August 09, 2015, 11:56:42 AM
Quote from: Syferus on August 09, 2015, 11:50:04 AM
Quote from: beer baron on August 09, 2015, 11:21:40 AM
Expect Dublin to win and quite comfortably. Their forwards will be a shock to the system for Mayo and they'll find it hard/impossible to cope and if Mayo do get in front i still think they lack a bit of ruthlessness to my eyes, if Kerry or Dublin had Donegal on the ropes like that yesterday i suspect they would've won by 12+points.
Only slight doubt in my mind is if Aidan O' Shea puts in a colossal performance and destroys O' Carroll but as good as O' Shea is i can't see Gavin letting this happen, i expect Dublin to play slightly more conservatively from here on in and in truth expect them to win the All Ireland without any side getting within 3 or 4 points of them.
You can't see a leaky Dublin defence being leaky? Really?
"I expect Dublin to play slightly more conservatively" kind of does suggest that i think their current leaky defence might be a bit leaky but they may perhaps have a sweeper employed and the half forward line drop deeper.
I've yet to see Gavin's Dublin play well defensively in the few competitive games they have a year. The teams good enough to give them a game usually find a lot of holes at the back. I'd be hard pushed to say they're any more defensively sound than what was clearly a dying Donegal side.
Mayo's forwards aren't Kerry's.
Mayo players spent plenty of time around Dublin last night telling everyone they were going to beat us.
So I'm sure our lads have been informed.
In fairness that Mayo panel are some animals the night after a win. They tore toilet seats apart after they beat Galway in 2011. It's not bad enough them talking shite but not letting a man have a shite?
Scandalous altogether.
Quote from: larryin89 on August 09, 2015, 06:38:18 PM
We will win this one with a lot more ease than most would be imagining.
AOS is unmarkable
We didn't have to mark him the last time we played in the Championship - just drag him away from the play everytime.
Horan and his analysts must've been watching Free Willy on their laptops cos they sure weren't watching the game!
With Vaughan picking up a 2nd black card of the championship yesterday is he now suspended for this game?
Quote from: mayoman dan on August 09, 2015, 06:51:10 PM
With Vaughan picking up a 2nd black card of the championship yesterday is he now suspended for this game?
Need 3 for a suspension according to the commentator
Have a bad feeling in my waters about this one.
Can't say that Dublin imo anyway have improved from last year and Mayo obviously have.
A game that I would love to have Eoghan O'Gara available for. He addled Mayo so much in 2013............ accidentally as well as afaicr he only came on early as a result of an injury. MDMA strugging for form and imo anyway the problems with our backs from 2014 not fixed.
Would much preferred to have Donegal .
Quote from: Hound on August 09, 2015, 07:04:24 PM
Quote from: mayoman dan on August 09, 2015, 06:51:10 PM
With Vaughan picking up a 2nd black card of the championship yesterday is he now suspended for this game?
Need 3 for a suspension according to the commentator
glad vaughan starts :-X
Quote from: Jinxy on August 09, 2015, 06:19:34 PM
My Mayo cousin reckons that Dublin FB line can be 'got at' and AOS will get at least 2 goals.
He also says they will DESTROY them at centre field.
Fenton too light for the Dubs, will have to start Bastick, who is too slow.
Fenton is actually one of the biggest on the panel, I expect him and mccauley to pair the middle , cian to man mark beastly aose
The only tickets available on the gaa website are upper hogan and upper cusack.The lower sections are hardly sold out already are they?
I expect Mayo to win comfortably. A limited enough Donegal team beat Dublin easily last year and Mayo are a fair bit ahead of Donegal.
Dublin look good against woeful Leinster opposition, but that's a false portrayal of where they're at.
Quote from: blanketattack on August 09, 2015, 08:03:38 PM
I expect Mayo to win comfortably. A limited enough Donegal team beat Dublin easily last year and Mayo are a fair bit ahead of Donegal.
Dublin look good against woeful Leinster opposition, but that's a false portrayal of where they're at.
That's fairly accurate I think - sure one of the Tyronie's last week said we were the weakest of the eight qtr finalists so we're definitely the weakest of the four semi-finalists!
Quote from: heffo on August 09, 2015, 08:08:09 PM
Quote from: blanketattack on August 09, 2015, 08:03:38 PM
I expect Mayo to win comfortably. A limited enough Donegal team beat Dublin easily last year and Mayo are a fair bit ahead of Donegal.
Dublin look good against woeful Leinster opposition, but that's a false portrayal of where they're at.
That's fairly accurate I think - sure one of the Tyronie's last week said we were the weakest of the eight qtr finalists so we're definitely the weakest of the four semi-finalists!
You certainly need to work on your Yerra! :D
Quote from: INDIANA on August 09, 2015, 11:48:18 AM
Quote from: galwayman on August 09, 2015, 11:07:01 AM
I think Mayo are stronger overall.
The Dubs have dangerous forwards and dangerous runners but I think Mayo are more solid throughout the team.
They have huge ball winning power throughout the team & a far superior defence so I'd fancy them to win this.
Really looking forward to it.
This is the same Mayo full back line that struggled on an average Galway full forward line.
That's superior? Interesting.
In fairness they held Donegal to just 0-11 which shows the improvement to the Mayo defence since the Connacht championship. Dublin made unexpected exit at the semi final stage last year due to conceding extraordinary 3-14 to Donegal. If Dublin defend in a similar manner then Mayo will take advantage.
Quote from: Captain Obvious on August 09, 2015, 08:11:25 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on August 09, 2015, 11:48:18 AM
Quote from: galwayman on August 09, 2015, 11:07:01 AM
I think Mayo are stronger overall.
The Dubs have dangerous forwards and dangerous runners but I think Mayo are more solid throughout the team.
They have huge ball winning power throughout the team & a far superior defence so I'd fancy them to win this.
Really looking forward to it.
This is the same Mayo full back line that struggled on an average Galway full forward line.
That's superior? Interesting.
In fairness they held Donegal to just 0-11 which shows the improvement to the Mayo defence since the Connacht championship. Dublin made unexpected exit at the semi final stage last year due to conceding extraordinary 3-14 to Donegal. If Dublin defend in a similar manner then Mayo will take advantage.
Only one Donegal forward would make our forward line. Not a good example.
The Mayo defence hasn't met anything like our lads. And it wouldn't surprise me if the Dublin management don't facilitate Mayo by changing what would be the expected match ups.
Quote from: blanketattack on August 09, 2015, 08:03:38 PM
I expect Mayo to win comfortably. A limited enough Donegal team beat Dublin easily last year and Mayo are a fair bit ahead of Donegal.
Dublin look good against woeful Leinster opposition, but that's a false portrayal of where they're at.
100% on the money.
Quote from: muppet on August 09, 2015, 08:09:34 PM
Quote from: heffo on August 09, 2015, 08:08:09 PM
Quote from: blanketattack on August 09, 2015, 08:03:38 PM
I expect Mayo to win comfortably. A limited enough Donegal team beat Dublin easily last year and Mayo are a fair bit ahead of Donegal.
Dublin look good against woeful Leinster opposition, but that's a false portrayal of where they're at.
That's fairly accurate I think - sure one of the Tyronie's last week said we were the weakest of the eight qtr finalists so we're definitely the weakest of the four semi-finalists!
You certainly need to work on your Yerra! :D
This is Mayo's year Muppet, embrace it, don't fear it!
Quote from: heffo on August 09, 2015, 08:39:47 PM
Quote from: muppet on August 09, 2015, 08:09:34 PM
Quote from: heffo on August 09, 2015, 08:08:09 PM
Quote from: blanketattack on August 09, 2015, 08:03:38 PM
I expect Mayo to win comfortably. A limited enough Donegal team beat Dublin easily last year and Mayo are a fair bit ahead of Donegal.
Dublin look good against woeful Leinster opposition, but that's a false portrayal of where they're at.
That's fairly accurate I think - sure one of the Tyronie's last week said we were the weakest of the eight qtr finalists so we're definitely the weakest of the four semi-finalists!
You certainly need to work on your Yerra! :D
This is Mayo's year Muppet, embrace it, don't fear it!
1981, 1985, 1988, 1989, 1992, 1993, 1996, 1997, 1999, 2004, 2006, 2011, 2012, 2013 & 2014.
All semi-finals, no title.
2015?
No need for yerra.
But do I think we can win this one.
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Quote from: Captain Obvious on August 09, 2015, 08:11:25 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on August 09, 2015, 11:48:18 AM
Quote from: galwayman on August 09, 2015, 11:07:01 AM
I think Mayo are stronger overall.
The Dubs have dangerous forwards and dangerous runners but I think Mayo are more solid throughout the team.
They have huge ball winning power throughout the team & a far superior defence so I'd fancy them to win this.
Really looking forward to it.
This is the same Mayo full back line that struggled on an average Galway full forward line.
That's superior? Interesting.
In fairness they held Donegal to just 0-11 which shows the improvement to the Mayo defence since the Connacht championship. Dublin made unexpected exit at the semi final stage last year due to conceding extraordinary 3-14 to Donegal. If Dublin defend in a similar manner then Mayo will take advantage.
Only one Donegal forward would make our forward line. Not a good example.
The Mayo defence hasn't met anything like our lads. And it wouldn't surprise me if the Dublin management don't facilitate Mayo by changing what would be the expected match ups.
Thoroughbreds is the name that you use isn't it? I think I saw the lads having Pizza slices round town as well last night. Sickening arrogance from Mayo.....
Aidan O'Shea will give young O'Carroll full of it but O'Carroll is a big game player in fairness to him. From a Mayo perspective I'd like to see McMahon start, goes AWOL a few times every game. Dublin looked more solid with Small back there in the league.
Not sure if the Dublin cavalry is as strong as 2013...O'Gara is a big loss, instrumental in the 2013 final for Dublin.
Line seems to be faster to spot things this year too which is positive, don't think we'll have Cluxton pulling our pants down for the entire game by letting our midfielders get dragged to one side and popping it to McCarthy et al down the other wing....
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Quote from: INDIANA on August 09, 2015, 08:28:51 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on August 09, 2015, 08:11:25 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on August 09, 2015, 11:48:18 AM
Quote from: galwayman on August 09, 2015, 11:07:01 AM
I think Mayo are stronger overall.
The Dubs have dangerous forwards and dangerous runners but I think Mayo are more solid throughout the team.
They have huge ball winning power throughout the team & a far superior defence so I'd fancy them to win this.
Really looking forward to it.
This is the same Mayo full back line that struggled on an average Galway full forward line.
That's superior? Interesting.
In fairness they held Donegal to just 0-11 which shows the improvement to the Mayo defence since the Connacht championship. Dublin made unexpected exit at the semi final stage last year due to conceding extraordinary 3-14 to Donegal. If Dublin defend in a similar manner then Mayo will take advantage.
Only one Donegal forward would make our forward line. Not a good example.
The Mayo defence hasn't met anything like our lads. And it wouldn't surprise me if the Dublin management don't facilitate Mayo by changing what would be the expected match ups.
Thoroughbreds is the name that you use isn't it? I think I saw the lads having Pizza slices round town as well last night. Sickening arrogance from Mayo.....
Aidan O'Shea will give young O'Carroll full of it but O'Carroll is a big game player in fairness to him. From a Mayo perspective I'd like to see McMahon start, goes AWOL a few times every game. Dublin looked more solid with Small back there in the league.
Not sure if the Dublin cavalry is as strong as 2013...O'Gara is a big loss, instrumental in the 2013 final for Dublin.
Line seems to be faster to spot things this year too which is positive, don't think we'll have Cluxton pulling our pants down for the entire game by letting our midfielders get dragged to one side and popping it to McCarthy et al down the other wing....
You're assuming ROC will be ear marked for that role.
Quote from: heffo on August 09, 2015, 06:45:53 PM
Quote from: larryin89 on August 09, 2015, 06:38:18 PM
We will win this one with a lot more ease than most would be imagining.
AOS is unmarkable
We didn't have to mark him the last time we played in the Championship - just drag him away from the play everytime.
Horan and his analysts must've been watching Free Willy on their laptops cos they sure weren't watching the game!
Pat Holmes and Noel Connelly are joint managers of Mayo this year, James horan is no longer part of the set up.
Horan done wonders with Mayo to bring them to the level they got to but if people are going to be honest about Comparing , parsons = 1-0 to N&P , AOS on the square = 2-0 and both are intertwined in a positive improvement . Also , most realists like myself knew since the start of the year, it was a dead cert Mayo v Dublin semi , we needed a player like parsons for that fixture. Pleasantly surprised at management tbh.
Bastick? MDMA? Takes an option from midfield straight away....anyway,no guarantee that O'Shea will be in FF.
Quote from: ballinaman on August 09, 2015, 08:59:35 PM
Bastick? MDMA? Takes an option from midfield straight away....anyway,no guarantee that O'Shea will be in FF.
Or just play a sweeper a few yard in front of him like they did very well in the league game?
Neither team has been tested so far in the championship. I expect Dublin to win, as Indiana said, Dublin's forwards are the second best in the land (after KY imo) Our defence played well yesterday, they may revert to type again. Dublin will overpower Mayo with their running.
Quote from: mayoman dan on August 09, 2015, 09:03:48 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on August 09, 2015, 08:59:35 PM
Bastick? MDMA? Takes an option from midfield straight away....anyway,no guarantee that O'Shea will be in FF.
Or just play a sweeper a few yard in front of him like they did very well in the league game?
Did well vs the sweeper last night. Quality of the ball in is the key, lobbing it up is no use, 9 times out of 10, the sweeper will clear it.
That was a serious paddlin that night in Castlebar. I'd say Mayo won't need reminding of what Dublin can do to ya if you're not on it.
Man Farr!
Quote from: Farrandeelin on August 09, 2015, 09:05:53 PM
Neither team has been tested so far in the championship. I expect Dublin to win, as Indiana said, Dublin's forwards are the second best in the land (after KY imo) Our defence played well yesterday, they may revert to type again. Dublin will overpower Mayo with their running.
You'll hardly go so?
This has the potential to he the best game in years. Slightly worried about Mayo's forwards but there's no doubting their hunger/strength fitness which will match Dublins. Hunger is where Dublin have faltered in recent times so it will be interesting to see how it all pans out.
Quote from: Farrandeelin on August 09, 2015, 09:05:53 PM
Neither team has been tested so far in the championship. I expect Dublin to win, as Indiana said, Dublin's forwards are the second best in the land (after KY imo) Our defence played well yesterday, they may revert to type again. Dublin will overpower Mayo with their running.
We'll hardly win midfield. I expect Mayo to dominate the area and hence edge the match by a couple.
I just don't think Mayo will beat both Dublin and Kerry unfortunately. I think Kerry's name is all over this regardless of the result of the semi final
I dont think it be better than the Kerry - Mayo games last year or the Dublin V kerry game in 2013
Quote from: ballinaman on August 09, 2015, 09:19:03 PM
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Bastick? MDMA? Takes an option from midfield straight away....anyway,no guarantee that O'Shea will be in FF.
Or just play a sweeper a few yard in front of him like they did very well in the league game?
Because, Donegal played no Sweepers and left AOS one to one....
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on August 09, 2015, 10:20:38 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on August 09, 2015, 09:19:03 PM
Quote from: mayoman dan on August 09, 2015, 09:03:48 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on August 09, 2015, 08:59:35 PM
Bastick? MDMA? Takes an option from midfield straight away....anyway,no guarantee that O'Shea will be in FF.
Or just play a sweeper a few yard in front of him like they did very well in the league game?
Because, Donegal played no Sweepers and left AOS one to one....
Well Mark McHugh's performance as sweeper wasn't that far off being a zero yesterday.
Mayo lads, what's the opinion on Holmes? For my money he's not the sharpest ticket and unfortunately in the vein of Maughan and Moran, ie a civil enough guy but doesn't have the tactical nous to lead you to the Holy Grail. If you do win the AI I feel it will have been in spite of and not because of Holmes.
Quote from: trileacman on August 09, 2015, 10:55:21 PM
Mayo lads, what's the opinion on Holmes? For my money he's not the sharpest ticket and unfortunately in the vein of Maughan and Moran, ie a civil enough guy but doesn't have the tactical nous to lead you to the Holy Grail. If you do win the AI I feel it will have been in spite of and not because of Holmes.
I probably would have agreed with you a couple of months ago, but after the game yesterday I don't know how you can say that. They got their game plan spot on yesterday and deserve great credit.
Quote from: Tubberman on August 09, 2015, 11:09:31 PM
Quote from: trileacman on August 09, 2015, 10:55:21 PM
Mayo lads, what's the opinion on Holmes? For my money he's not the sharpest ticket and unfortunately in the vein of Maughan and Moran, ie a civil enough guy but doesn't have the tactical nous to lead you to the Holy Grail. If you do win the AI I feel it will have been in spite of and not because of Holmes.
I probably would have agreed with you a couple of months ago, but after the game yesterday I don't know how you can say that. They got their game plan spot on yesterday and deserve great credit.
Hmmm, I'm not sure.
Quote from: trileacman on August 09, 2015, 10:55:21 PM
Mayo lads, what's the opinion on Holmes? For my money he's not the sharpest ticket and unfortunately in the vein of Maughan and Moran, ie a civil enough guy but doesn't have the tactical nous to lead you to the Holy Grail. If you do win the AI I feel it will have been in spite of and not because of Holmes.
The thing is it's
Holmes and Connelly not just Holmes! So you are only basing your judgement on half the package.
Not convinced by Pateen either trileac. However, apparently Mayo are better than ever before so..
Quote from: trileacman on August 09, 2015, 11:14:25 PM
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Quote from: trileacman on August 09, 2015, 10:55:21 PM
Mayo lads, what's the opinion on Holmes? For my money he's not the sharpest ticket and unfortunately in the vein of Maughan and Moran, ie a civil enough guy but doesn't have the tactical nous to lead you to the Holy Grail. If you do win the AI I feel it will have been in spite of and not because of Holmes.
I probably would have agreed with you a couple of months ago, but after the game yesterday I don't know how you can say that. They got their game plan spot on yesterday and deserve great credit.
Hmmm, I'm not sure.
Not sure about what? You think they got the tactics wrong yesterday?
There would be no shame in us losing to a great Mayo team.
Which Mayo players would all you Jackeens have in your first 15 ? Aidan, Keith, Leeroy, Seamus O'S and Cillian i presume for sure. No one else i would expect.
And yet yee're still filling this thread trying to tell others what you don't believe, i.e.: Mayo may well beat Dublin
Quote from: blast05 on August 09, 2015, 11:47:33 PM
Which Mayo players would all you Jackeens have in your first 15 ? Aidan, Keith, Leeroy, Seamus O'S and Cillian i presume for sure. No one else i would expect.
And yet yee're still filling this thread trying to tell others what you don't believe, i.e.: Mayo may well beat Dublin
Would have taken about 3 Donegal players last year. Its the sum of the parts that counts
Quote from: SouthDublinBro on August 09, 2015, 11:24:55 PM
There would be no shame in us losing to a great Mayo team.
No shame at all! ;) :P
if i was Mayo i wouldn't be getting over confident, if Dublin break even in midfield they score enough to win the game, though i hope to see mayo win an all-ireland, its been too long especially after getting to so many finals, / semis over the years!
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on August 10, 2015, 12:11:10 AM
if i was Mayo i wouldn't be getting over confident, if Dublin break even in midfield they score enough to win the game, though i hope to see mayo win an all-ireland, its been too long especially after getting to so many finals, / semis over the years!
No danger of us being over confident. Once the (embarrassingly amateurish) yerraing by the dubs stops we'll have a proper discussion. I suppose 3 weeks is a long time so a bit of bants and lols has to be had.
Dublin and Kerry are the clear favourites, have been all year. Just because we beat a tired Donegal team doesn't make us favourites to beat Dublin all of a sudden.
I was impressed with our game plan on Saturday, we are improving but our forward play needs a lot of work. I agree, if Dublin merely break even at midfield we are in bother as they have better forwards overall. I am reasonably confident we will edge them around the middle and hopefully the lads will have a plan for cluxtons kick outs. Crack that and it's game on/over.
Can't underestimate the step up the next day. Dublin will be fitter, fresher and faster than Donegal so it's as we were, with it all to do.
Quote from: Ballaghman on August 10, 2015, 01:42:54 AM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on August 10, 2015, 12:11:10 AM
if i was Mayo i wouldn't be getting over confident, if Dublin break even in midfield they score enough to win the game, though i hope to see mayo win an all-ireland, its been too long especially after getting to so many finals, / semis over the years!
No danger of us being over confident. Once the (embarrassingly amateurish) yerraing by the dubs stops we'll have a proper discussion. I suppose 3 weeks is a long time so a bit of bants and lols has to be had.
Dublin and Kerry are the clear favourites, have been all year. Just because we beat a tired Donegal team doesn't make us favourites to beat Dublin all of a sudden.
I was impressed with our game plan on Saturday, we are improving but our forward play needs a lot of work. I agree, if Dublin merely break even at midfield we are in bother as they have better forwards overall. I am reasonably confident we will edge them around the middle and hopefully the lads will have a plan for cluxtons kick outs. Crack that and it's game on/over.
Can't underestimate the step up the next day. Dublin will be fitter, fresher and faster than Donegal so it's as we were, with it all to do.
We're not playing the Dubs, Mayo are.
yer man James McCarthy will have to start against us. I hope he doesn't but I'd say he will. How come he is not a first choice anymore?
As good and all as Fenton has played this year I would not be starting him. He is still developing physically.
So hopefully the Dubs get their selection wrong and start Fenton and leave out McCarthy. Kilkenny is another lad we are able to handle so I hope he lines out.
Any word on Cunniffe's injury??
Quote from: highorlow on August 10, 2015, 09:46:40 AM
yer man James McCarthy will have to start against us. I hope he doesn't but I'd say he will. How come he is not a first choice anymore?
As good and all as Fenton has played this year I would not be starting him. He is still developing physically.
So hopefully the Dubs get their selection wrong and start Fenton and leave out McCarthy. Kilkenny is another lad we are able to handle so I hope he lines out.
Watch him have a stormer now after saying that. Class player.
Quote from: highorlow on August 10, 2015, 09:46:40 AM
yer man James McCarthy will have to start against us. I hope he doesn't but I'd say he will. How come he is not a first choice anymore?
As good and all as Fenton has played this year I would not be starting him. He is still developing physically.
So hopefully the Dubs get their selection wrong and start Fenton and leave out McCarthy. Kilkenny is another lad we are able to handle so I hope he lines out.
I think Fenton will surprise you. He'd held the dublin midfield together on this own this year as MDMA's form has plummeted. Not bad for a 21 year old.
However he can't do it on his own against Mayo and if MDMA doesn't rediscover himself in the next 3 weeks we will lose
Dubs to win, we have the best players in the country in 5 or 6 positions, the best player in the country in Connolly, the greatest goal keeper ever to play the game. Mayo are good but not as good as Dublin, never mind o Shea and O'Connor, if Dublin play their own game and to their own strengths then they will win, the only thing that can beat Dublin is themselves.
I think the Dubs will chomping at the bit for this match, they know they will be in a game, training temp will be up, all compared to probably knowing they would win easily through Leinster and Q/F. Now its the big time and they will improve.
Quote from: The Aristocrat on August 10, 2015, 10:07:47 AM
Dubs to win, we have the best players in the country in 5 or 6 positions, the best player in the country in Connolly, the greatest goal keeper ever to play the game. Mayo are good but not as good as Dublin, never mind o Shea and O'Connor, if Dublin play their own game and to their own strengths then they will win, the only thing that can beat Dublin is themselves.
I think the Dubs will chomping at the bit for this match, they know they will be in a game, training temp will be up, all compared to probably knowing they would win easily through Leinster and Q/F. Now its the big time and they will improve.
What a load of shite.
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Quote from: The Aristocrat on August 10, 2015, 10:07:47 AM
Dubs to win, we have the best players in the country in 5 or 6 positions, the best player in the country in Connolly, the greatest goal keeper ever to play the game. Mayo are good but not as good as Dublin, never mind o Shea and O'Connor, if Dublin play their own game and to their own strengths then they will win, the only thing that can beat Dublin is themselves.
I think the Dubs will chomping at the bit for this match, they know they will be in a game, training temp will be up, all compared to probably knowing they would win easily through Leinster and Q/F. Now its the big time and they will improve.
What a load of shite.
What's wrong with it? Best players in positions? Cluxton, O Carroll, Cooper, Connolly, Bernard, maybe Flynn and or Cian O Sullivan.
Quote from: Syferus on August 10, 2015, 08:32:55 AM
Quote from: Ballaghman on August 10, 2015, 01:42:54 AM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on August 10, 2015, 12:11:10 AM
if i was Mayo i wouldn't be getting over confident, if Dublin break even in midfield they score enough to win the game, though i hope to see mayo win an all-ireland, its been too long especially after getting to so many finals, / semis over the years!
No danger of us being over confident. Once the (embarrassingly amateurish) yerraing by the dubs stops we'll have a proper discussion. I suppose 3 weeks is a long time so a bit of bants and lols has to be had.
Dublin and Kerry are the clear favourites, have been all year. Just because we beat a tired Donegal team doesn't make us favourites to beat Dublin all of a sudden.
I was impressed with our game plan on Saturday, we are improving but our forward play needs a lot of work. I agree, if Dublin merely break even at midfield we are in bother as they have better forwards overall. I am reasonably confident we will edge them around the middle and hopefully the lads will have a plan for cluxtons kick outs. Crack that and it's game on/over.
Can't underestimate the step up the next day. Dublin will be fitter, fresher and faster than Donegal so it's as we were, with it all to do.
We're not playing the Dubs, Mayo are.
Now now Syf, yes we are. History/geography lesson 1203............ Ballagh Parish is also in Mayo, I'm from the Mayo side of the 'border'. Regardless, all of Ballagh is in Mayo for football. We can start up yet another thread on this if you want but we Mayo boys have bigger fish to fry. I'll let ye rossies worry about petty things like parishes and old borders.
Can't wait for this, not sure how anyone can say definitively that one team will win
Dublin have to figure out how to manage O'Shea, id say Philly Mc back there with ROC as sweeper in front/behind. But ur robbing the middle then, let's face it MDM has finally realised he's a basketball player, I'd be surprised if he starts the next day, being massively fit is no replacement for actually being able to play football.
The plus side of them having an extra player back is that Cluxton will have his pick of kick outs, so no need to go down the middle where Mayo have great strength.
From us I wouldn't expect Barry to start again, instead id hope Barrett gets the 15 jersey and we play a tight sweeper like Boyler or Zippy.
As they said on Second Captains people seem to have forgotten completely about our best forward, COC needs to have a big game the next day. Likewise Kevin Mc and Doc need to work as hard as Flynn and co round the middle.
Can't f**king wait! There is literally nothing better than beating the dubs and in fairness to them they've always taken it well, better than any county.
Hopefully we can squeeze this one out but I won't be putting any money on either side
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on August 10, 2015, 12:16:31 PM
Can't wait for this, not sure how anyone can say definitively that one team will win
Dublin have to figure out how to manage O'Shea, id say Philly Mc back there with ROC as sweeper in front/behind. But ur robbing the middle then, let's face it MDM has finally realised he's a basketball player, I'd be surprised if he starts the next day, being massively fit is no replacement for actually being able to play football.
The plus side of them having an extra player back is that Cluxton will have his pick of kick outs, so no need to go down the middle where Mayo have great strength.
From us I wouldn't expect Barry to start again, instead id hope Barrett gets the 15 jersey and we play a tight sweeper like Boyler or Zippy.
As they said on Second Captains people seem to have forgotten completely about our best forward, COC needs to have a big game the next day. Likewise Kevin Mc and Doc need to work as hard as Flynn and co round the middle.
Can't f**king wait! There is literally nothing better than beating the dubs and in fairness to them they've always taken it well, better than any county.
Hopefully we can squeeze this one out but I won't be putting any money on either side
I'd say you'd enjoy beating Kerry in the final more!!!
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on August 10, 2015, 12:16:31 PM
Can't wait for this, not sure how anyone can say definitively that one team will win
Dublin have to figure out how to manage O'Shea, id say Philly Mc back there with ROC as sweeper in front/behind. But ur robbing the middle then, let's face it MDM has finally realised he's a basketball player, I'd be surprised if he starts the next day, being massively fit is no replacement for actually being able to play football.
The plus side of them having an extra player back is that Cluxton will have his pick of kick outs, so no need to go down the middle where Mayo have great strength.
From us I wouldn't expect Barry to start again, instead id hope Barrett gets the 15 jersey and we play a tight sweeper like Boyler or Zippy.
As they said on Second Captains people seem to have forgotten completely about our best forward, COC needs to have a big game the next day. Likewise Kevin Mc and Doc need to work as hard as Flynn and co round the middle.
Can't f**king wait! There is literally nothing better than beating the dubs and in fairness to them they've always taken it well, better than any county.
Hopefully we can squeeze this one out but I won't be putting any money on either side
I thought they were both flying the last day. No amount of McHughs would have stopped them.
Also looking forward to seeing another round of Connelly v Keegan. A bit like JOD v Keith last year. They are both in terrific form.
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on August 10, 2015, 12:16:31 PM
Can't wait for this, not sure how anyone can say definitively that one team will win
Dublin have to figure out how to manage O'Shea, id say Philly Mc back there with ROC as sweeper in front/behind. But ur robbing the middle then, let's face it MDM has finally realised he's a basketball player, I'd be surprised if he starts the next day, being massively fit is no replacement for actually being able to play football.
The plus side of them having an extra player back is that Cluxton will have his pick of kick outs, so no need to go down the middle where Mayo have great strength.
From us I wouldn't expect Barry to start again, instead id hope Barrett gets the 15 jersey and we play a tight sweeper like Boyler or Zippy.
As they said on Second Captains people seem to have forgotten completely about our best forward, COC needs to have a big game the next day. Likewise Kevin Mc and Doc need to work as hard as Flynn and co round the middle.
Can't f**king wait! There is literally nothing better than beating the dubs and in fairness to them they've always taken it well, better than any county.
Hopefully we can squeeze this one out but I won't be putting any money on either side
I'm happy to say definitively that one team will win, eventually.
So what would we be looking at for the Mayo backs:
P Flynn v Keegan
C Kilkenny v Vaughan
D Connolly v Boyle
D Rock v Cunniffe / Barrett
P Andrews v Caff
B Brogan v Higgins
Plus a sweeper
Quote from: highorlow on August 10, 2015, 09:46:40 AM
yer man James McCarthy will have to start against us. I hope he doesn't but I'd say he will. How come he is not a first choice anymore?
As good and all as Fenton has played this year I would not be starting him. He is still developing physically.
So hopefully the Dubs get their selection wrong and start Fenton and leave out McCarthy. Kilkenny is another lad we are able to handle so I hope he lines out.
McCarthy missed parts of this year because on injury and wasn't put straight back into the starting team on his return. But he's well back now and guaranteed to start, although hasn't quite performed to his usual level since his return
Quote from: macdanger2 on August 10, 2015, 12:30:26 PM
So what would we be looking at for the Mayo backs:
P Flynn v Keegan
C Kilkenny v Vaughan
D Connolly v Boyle
D Rock v Cunniffe / Barrett
P Andrews v Caff
B Brogan v Higgins
Plus a sweeper
Whatever about the other match ups, it has to be Keegan on Connolly. Keegan has a very good record on him and I would be confident he would carry that into the game.
Caff on Rock is another one I would prefer but not as important maybe.
Anybody know if the Bring a Friend option will be available for ST holders for this game? Just wondering, seen as it will be sold out.
Quote from: Ballaghman on August 10, 2015, 03:21:38 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on August 10, 2015, 12:30:26 PM
So what would we be looking at for the Mayo backs:
P Flynn v Keegan
C Kilkenny v Vaughan
D Connolly v Boyle
D Rock v Cunniffe / Barrett
P Andrews v Caff
B Brogan v Higgins
Plus a sweeper
Whatever about the other match ups, it has to be Keegan on Connolly. Keegan has a very good record on him and I would be confident he would carry that into the game.
Caff on Rock is another one I would prefer but not as important maybe.
I wouldn't bet on Dublin helping you out on that one. I'd like to see us stick Connolly at 14 with Bernard and really put the shits up the Mayo full back-line.
Quote from: Farrandeelin on August 09, 2015, 09:05:53 PM
Neither team has been tested so far in the championship. I expect Dublin to win, as Indiana said, Dublin's forwards are the second best in the land (after KY imo) Our defence played well yesterday, they may revert to type again. Dublin will overpower Mayo with their running.
Same as that Farr, I'm opting out of this one, we've no hope over the Dublin powerhouse :'(
Quote from: INDIANA on August 10, 2015, 03:33:15 PM
Quote from: Ballaghman on August 10, 2015, 03:21:38 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on August 10, 2015, 12:30:26 PM
So what would we be looking at for the Mayo backs:
P Flynn v Keegan
C Kilkenny v Vaughan
D Connolly v Boyle
D Rock v Cunniffe / Barrett
P Andrews v Caff
B Brogan v Higgins
Plus a sweeper
Whatever about the other match ups, it has to be Keegan on Connolly. Keegan has a very good record on him and I would be confident he would carry that into the game.
Caff on Rock is another one I would prefer but not as important maybe.
I wouldn't bet on Dublin helping you out on that one. I'd like to see us stick Connolly at 14 with Bernard and really put the shits up the Mayo full back-line.
Dya think? A few of us were saying Dublin might do that, for two reasons. The one you've mentioned above and secondly because Keegan generally gets the better of him. The only thing is, Connolly along with Flynn, is very important on Dublins kick outs, so he would be a big loss from the half forward line. I think that could play into our hands a little.
Quote from: Ballaghman on August 10, 2015, 04:31:30 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on August 10, 2015, 03:33:15 PM
Quote from: Ballaghman on August 10, 2015, 03:21:38 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on August 10, 2015, 12:30:26 PM
So what would we be looking at for the Mayo backs:
P Flynn v Keegan
C Kilkenny v Vaughan
D Connolly v Boyle
D Rock v Cunniffe / Barrett
P Andrews v Caff
B Brogan v Higgins
Plus a sweeper
Whatever about the other match ups, it has to be Keegan on Connolly. Keegan has a very good record on him and I would be confident he would carry that into the game.
Caff on Rock is another one I would prefer but not as important maybe.
I wouldn't bet on Dublin helping you out on that one. I'd like to see us stick Connolly at 14 with Bernard and really put the shits up the Mayo full back-line.
Dya think? A few of us were saying Dublin might do that, for two reasons. The one you've mentioned above and secondly because Keegan generally gets the better of him. The only thing is, Connolly along with Flynn, is very important on Dublins kick outs, so he would be a big loss from the half forward line. I think that could play into our hands a little.
Dermot has been very inactive on the Dublin kick-outs simply because he's the best player on the team now and has different responsibilities and a different portfolio compared to other years. When I look at the likes of Keegan I'd never play my best forward on him. It's a waste of time. Even if they cancel each other out- that's a bigger win for Mayo then Dublin. So why take the chance?
I think Flynner is the man for him. Flynn is pound for pound the best wing forward in the country. He's out of form though due to circumstances beyond his control. This might be the carrot he needs to revitalise his season- the guy loves a challenge.
Quote from: INDIANA on August 10, 2015, 04:46:54 PM
Quote from: Ballaghman on August 10, 2015, 04:31:30 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on August 10, 2015, 03:33:15 PM
Quote from: Ballaghman on August 10, 2015, 03:21:38 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on August 10, 2015, 12:30:26 PM
So what would we be looking at for the Mayo backs:
P Flynn v Keegan
C Kilkenny v Vaughan
D Connolly v Boyle
D Rock v Cunniffe / Barrett
P Andrews v Caff
B Brogan v Higgins
Plus a sweeper
Whatever about the other match ups, it has to be Keegan on Connolly. Keegan has a very good record on him and I would be confident he would carry that into the game.
Caff on Rock is another one I would prefer but not as important maybe.
I wouldn't bet on Dublin helping you out on that one. I'd like to see us stick Connolly at 14 with Bernard and really put the shits up the Mayo full back-line.
Dya think? A few of us were saying Dublin might do that, for two reasons. The one you've mentioned above and secondly because Keegan generally gets the better of him. The only thing is, Connolly along with Flynn, is very important on Dublins kick outs, so he would be a big loss from the half forward line. I think that could play into our hands a little.
Dermot has been very inactive on the Dublin kick-outs simply because he's the best player on the team now and has different responsibilities and a different portfolio compared to other years. When I look at the likes of Keegan I'd never play my best forward on him. It's a waste of time. Even if they cancel each other out- that's a bigger win for Mayo then Dublin. So why take the chance?
I think Flynner is the man for him. Flynn is pound for pound the best wing forward in the country. He's out of form though due to circumstances beyond his control. This might be the carrot he needs to revitalise his season- the guy loves a challenge.
I agree, Dublin would be wise to keep Connolly away from Keegan, we'll see if they have the luxury of doing that. Flynn on Keegan would be good for us too imo, Flynn would spend most of the game going the wrong way.
Wasn't Flynn converted to sweeper in 2013 against Kerry when Donaghy came on? Could be asked do a similar job the next day
Quote from: Ballaghman on August 10, 2015, 04:58:32 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on August 10, 2015, 04:46:54 PM
Quote from: Ballaghman on August 10, 2015, 04:31:30 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on August 10, 2015, 03:33:15 PM
Quote from: Ballaghman on August 10, 2015, 03:21:38 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on August 10, 2015, 12:30:26 PM
So what would we be looking at for the Mayo backs:
P Flynn v Keegan
C Kilkenny v Vaughan
D Connolly v Boyle
D Rock v Cunniffe / Barrett
P Andrews v Caff
B Brogan v Higgins
Plus a sweeper
Whatever about the other match ups, it has to be Keegan on Connolly. Keegan has a very good record on him and I would be confident he would carry that into the game.
Caff on Rock is another one I would prefer but not as important maybe.
I wouldn't bet on Dublin helping you out on that one. I'd like to see us stick Connolly at 14 with Bernard and really put the shits up the Mayo full back-line.
Dya think? A few of us were saying Dublin might do that, for two reasons. The one you've mentioned above and secondly because Keegan generally gets the better of him. The only thing is, Connolly along with Flynn, is very important on Dublins kick outs, so he would be a big loss from the half forward line. I think that could play into our hands a little.
Dermot has been very inactive on the Dublin kick-outs simply because he's the best player on the team now and has different responsibilities and a different portfolio compared to other years. When I look at the likes of Keegan I'd never play my best forward on him. It's a waste of time. Even if they cancel each other out- that's a bigger win for Mayo then Dublin. So why take the chance?
I think Flynner is the man for him. Flynn is pound for pound the best wing forward in the country. He's out of form though due to circumstances beyond his control. This might be the carrot he needs to revitalise his season- the guy loves a challenge.
I agree, Dublin would be wise to keep Connolly away from Keegan, we'll see if they have the luxury of doing that. Flynn on Keegan would be good for us too imo, Flynn would spend most of the game going the wrong way.
Wasn't Flynn converted to sweeper in 2013 against Kerry when Donaghy came on? Could be asked do a similar job the next day
Paul hasn't scored much this year. Keeping Keegan quiet would be a win for us based on current form
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on August 10, 2015, 05:08:09 PM
sukeegan goig toplay full back? casue Connolly going to be at 14
Nope I'm sure he'll stay where he is but I can't imagine the Mayo full back line would be queueing up to mark Connolly.
They may not have prepared for it. Probably have never marked him before either.
Changes the dynamic.
If Dublin lose to mayo (or indeed if they don't win the AI), will smug Jim get the road??
Quote from: macdanger2 on August 10, 2015, 10:41:55 PM
If Dublin lose to mayo (or indeed if they don't win the AI), will smug Jim get the road??
Look, we've have an open and frank discussion on it. *smiles*
anyone notice the clips of lee keegan scoring on the sunday game. he never once bounced or soloed the ball. Same with an Andy moran point. Have referees been told to let game flow more and ignore possible over carrying offences?
Quote from: macdanger2 on August 10, 2015, 10:41:55 PM
If Dublin lose to mayo (or indeed if they don't win the AI), will smug Jim get the road??
Depends on the performance(s).
In fairness, Galvin has lost only one important game in (going on) 3 years. Three leagues, three Leinsters, One All-Ireland, with another still a possibility, during that time. So you'd think he's fairly safe, barring a collapse as against Donegal, with no indication of having learned from that game.
Dublin have our best group of players since the 70's, and there's a definite feeling that two AI's would be a poor return from this group. If we were clearly out-thought from the line again, then there might be an issue for Galvin.
Quote from: redcard on August 10, 2015, 10:47:06 PM
anyone notice the clips of lee keegan scoring on the sunday game. he never once bounced or soloed the ball. Same with an Andy moran point. Have referees been told to let game flow more and ignore possible over carrying offences?
I m hoping you mean that as a compliment, otherwise ............
go luck at what the all time great DJ Carey used to do. This is the second go you ve had at Keegan. Worse things happened this weekend. And you might at least show where you re from so we might see where the agenda is coming from. I'm from Mayo btw.
Quote from: INDIANA on August 10, 2015, 05:11:30 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on August 10, 2015, 05:08:09 PM
sukeegan goig toplay full back? casue Connolly going to be at 14
Nope I'm sure he'll stay where he is but I can't imagine the Mayo full back line would be queueing up to mark Connolly.
They may not have prepared for it. Probably have never marked him before either.
Changes the dynamic.
Nope, but nobody fancied marking Michael Murphy either. Murphy is scarier and more disciplined. After Murphy's first point Caff got more immediate support and we coped well. Now I dunno how management are going to deal with Dublin but they would be stupid to abandon the Donegal template. Barry Moran might not be ideal for the Dub game but the gameplan should remain intact. If we set up similar to Donegal then maybe Connolly is better off inside - from our point of view. That is what I'd be hoping for. As well as that management should now have the confidence to play even more defensive because we play better from back to front, and we ve the option of leaving one or 2 up that need doubling up on and can still win ball and hurt a team.
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Quote from: Wildweasel74 on August 10, 2015, 05:08:09 PM
sukeegan goig toplay full back? casue Connolly going to be at 14
Nope I'm sure he'll stay where he is but I can't imagine the Mayo full back line would be queueing up to mark Connolly.
They may not have prepared for it. Probably have never marked him before either.
Changes the dynamic.
Nope, but nobody fancied marking Michael Murphy either. Murphy is scarier and more disciplined. After Murphy's first point Caff got more immediate support and we coped well. Now I dunno how management are going to deal with Dublin but they would be stupid to abandon the Donegal template. Barry Moran might not be ideal for the Dub game but the gameplan should remain intact. If we set up similar to Donegal then maybe Connolly is better off inside - from our point of view. That is what I'd be hoping for. As well as that management should now have the confidence to play even more defensive because we play better from back to front, and we ve the option of leaving one or 2 up that need doubling up on and can still win ball and hurt a team.
When Murphy,Connolly are loosely marked they can destroy a team however when Connolly is well marked he can be held scoreless Murphy on the hand when well marked can still score 0-3 from play as seen on Saturday.
Quote from: Captain Obvious on August 11, 2015, 01:05:27 AM
Quote from: moysider on August 11, 2015, 12:49:49 AM
Quote from: INDIANA on August 10, 2015, 05:11:30 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on August 10, 2015, 05:08:09 PM
sukeegan goig toplay full back? casue Connolly going to be at 14
Nope I'm sure he'll stay where he is but I can't imagine the Mayo full back line would be queueing up to mark Connolly.
They may not have prepared for it. Probably have never marked him before either.
Changes the dynamic.
Nope, but nobody fancied marking Michael Murphy either. Murphy is scarier and more disciplined. After Murphy's first point Caff got more immediate support and we coped well. Now I dunno how management are going to deal with Dublin but they would be stupid to abandon the Donegal template. Barry Moran might not be ideal for the Dub game but the gameplan should remain intact. If we set up similar to Donegal then maybe Connolly is better off inside - from our point of view. That is what I'd be hoping for. As well as that management should now have the confidence to play even more defensive because we play better from back to front, and we ve the option of leaving one or 2 up that need doubling up on and can still win ball and hurt a team.
When Murphy,Connolly are loosely marked they can destroy a team however when Connolly is well marked he can be held scoreless Murphy on the hand when well marked can still score 0-3 from play as seen on Saturday.
Exactly. That's what I'm talking about. We'd prefer Conolly inside in traffic rather than having space and cheery picking long shots that he is brilliant at from outside. Hopefully if he is played at 11 or 12 he 'll end up chasing back most of the game. Mayo have to go with the system that gives them the best chance - and what they did against Donegal is the way to go. And it doesn t matter who they are playing. For the first time ever we controlled (and deliberately tried to control a game) a game at this level instead of just having a cut.
Quote from: Jell 0 Biafra on August 10, 2015, 11:06:33 PM
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If Dublin lose to mayo (or indeed if they don't win the AI), will smug Jim get the road??
Depends on the performance(s).
In fairness, Galvin has lost only one important game in (going on) 3 years. Three leagues, three Leinsters, One All-Ireland, with another still a possibility, during that time. So you'd think he's fairly safe, barring a collapse as against Donegal, with no indication of having learned from that game.
Dublin have our best group of players since the 70's, and there's a definite feeling that two AI's would be a poor return from this group. If we were clearly out-thought from the line again, then there might be an issue for Galvin.
The flip side to that is that in the last two years they've played one division one team in championship and got roasted
Quote from: moysider on August 11, 2015, 12:49:49 AM
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Quote from: Wildweasel74 on August 10, 2015, 05:08:09 PM
sukeegan goig toplay full back? casue Connolly going to be at 14
Nope I'm sure he'll stay where he is but I can't imagine the Mayo full back line would be queueing up to mark Connolly.
They may not have prepared for it. Probably have never marked him before either.
Changes the dynamic.
Nope, but nobody fancied marking Michael Murphy either. Murphy is scarier and more disciplined. After Murphy's first point Caff got more immediate support and we coped well. Now I dunno how management are going to deal with Dublin but they would be stupid to abandon the Donegal template. Barry Moran might not be ideal for the Dub game but the gameplan should remain intact. If we set up similar to Donegal then maybe Connolly is better off inside - from our point of view. That is what I'd be hoping for. As well as that management should now have the confidence to play even more defensive because we play better from back to front, and we ve the option of leaving one or 2 up that need doubling up on and can still win ball and hurt a team.
Murphy doesn't have anything like Connolly's mobility. It's a different dynamic. I'd also argue when it comes to goal scoring Connolly is better then Murphy.
Probably won't happen but I'd consider it if I was picking it.
Quote from: INDIANA on August 10, 2015, 04:46:54 PMWhen I look at the likes of Keegan I'd never play my best forward on him. It's a waste of time. Even if they cancel each other out- that's a bigger win for Mayo then Dublin. So why take the chance?
I think Flynner is the man for him.
So forwards these days are getting to choose who will mark them? Football is changing even more than I thought.
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on August 11, 2015, 09:24:52 AM
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Quote from: macdanger2 on August 10, 2015, 10:41:55 PM
If Dublin lose to mayo (or indeed if they don't win the AI), will smug Jim get the road??
Depends on the performance(s).
In fairness, Galvin has lost only one important game in (going on) 3 years. Three leagues, three Leinsters, One All-Ireland, with another still a possibility, during that time. So you'd think he's fairly safe, barring a collapse as against Donegal, with no indication of having learned from that game.
Dublin have our best group of players since the 70's, and there's a definite feeling that two AI's would be a poor return from this group. If we were clearly out-thought from the line again, then there might be an issue for Galvin.
The flip side to that is that in the last two years they've played one division one team in championship and got roasted
We've been roasted before and will be again. Like all really good teams, though, we learned from those roastings and went on to win Sam.
Are u speaking about the future. Since the won the All-Ireland in 2013 you've played one division one team, they destroyed ye, that's pretty much all there is to go on for a two year period.
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on August 11, 2015, 03:03:26 PM
Are u speaking about the future. Since the won the All-Ireland in 2013 you've played one division one team, they destroyed ye, that's pretty much all there is to go on for a two year period.
Monaghan were D1 in 2014..
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on August 11, 2015, 03:03:26 PM
Are u speaking about the future. Since the won the All-Ireland in 2013 you've played one division one team, they destroyed ye, that's pretty much all there is to go on for a two year period.
Yea and since the 2012 All-Ireland Final we have lost only once in 6 games Croke Park.
Stats can paint funny pictures.
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Quote from: Mayo4Sam on August 11, 2015, 03:03:26 PM
Are u speaking about the future. Since the won the All-Ireland in 2013 you've played one division one team, they destroyed ye, that's pretty much all there is to go on for a two year period.
Monaghan were D1 in 2014..
Monaghan and Donegal were in division two last year.
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Quote from: Mayo4Sam on August 11, 2015, 03:03:26 PM
Are u speaking about the future. Since the won the All-Ireland in 2013 you've played one division one team, they destroyed ye, that's pretty much all there is to go on for a two year period.
Monaghan were D1 in 2014..
Monaghan and Donegal were in division two last year.
Neither of us is wrong. Like I said before, division ranking teams is a very subjective thing.
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on August 11, 2015, 03:03:26 PM
Are u speaking about the future. Since the won the All-Ireland in 2013 you've played one division one team, they destroyed ye, that's pretty much all there is to go on for a two year period.
If you're judging Dublin by their performance against Division 1 teams then remember that we've won the last three National League Div. 1 titles - although we're still rightly the underdogs against mighty Mayo.
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Quote from: Mayo4Sam on August 11, 2015, 03:03:26 PM
Are u speaking about the future. Since the won the All-Ireland in 2013 you've played one division one team, they destroyed ye, that's pretty much all there is to go on for a two year period.
If you're judging Dublin by their performance against Division 1 teams then remember that we've won the last three National League Div. 1 titles - although we're still rightly the underdogs against mighty Mayo.
And that's the nub of the issue- underdogs- we just keep saying it. We just let the Lee Keegan's of this world talk themselves up
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on August 11, 2015, 06:21:32 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on August 11, 2015, 03:03:26 PM
Are u speaking about the future. Since the won the All-Ireland in 2013 you've played one division one team, they destroyed ye, that's pretty much all there is to go on for a two year period.
If you're judging Dublin by their performance against Division 1 teams then remember that we've won the last three National League Div. 1 titles - although we're still rightly the underdogs against mighty Mayo.
We only played 1 Division 1 team as have Kerry.
On this logic Tyrone must be hot favourites having played 2.
Though playing 2 didn't do Donegal much good.
Dublin haven't lost to Mayo since Jim Gavin took over :-\
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Quote from: Mayo4Sam on August 11, 2015, 03:03:26 PM
Are u speaking about the future. Since the won the All-Ireland in 2013 you've played one division one team, they destroyed ye, that's pretty much all there is to go on for a two year period.
If you're judging Dublin by their performance against Division 1 teams then remember that we've won the last three National League Div. 1 titles - although we're still rightly the underdogs against mighty Mayo.
And that's the nub of the issue- underdogs- we just keep saying it. We just let the Lee Keegan's of this world talk themselves up
He was talking you up. ::)
Looking ahead to the semi-final, Keegan sees it as "a huge, huge game."
"Dublin are the team to beat but we will focus on the job in hand. We're on the road long enough not to let any of the hype get to us." http://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2015/0808/720073-mayos-keegan-happy-with-defensive-solidity/ (http://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2015/0808/720073-mayos-keegan-happy-with-defensive-solidity/)
Would like to see Cillian O'Connor get closer to Aidan O'Shea in the full forward line.
May see Chris Barrett in the next day allowing Higgins to play sweeper / break at speed. Then again Barry Moran could stay and we play the 3 lads around the middle. Our kick outs should exploit this.
Whilst I know that only an AI will cut it, Mayo people have to be pretty happy with the joint management team so far? Navigated the league well and maintained D1 status, and seem to have tailored training well to peak at this time of year. No rumblings of discontent coming from the camp (that I've heard at least) and some good tactical abilities demonstrated (against us in particular).
They had a tough act to follow but seem to be doing a fine job so far?
Quote from: StephenC on August 11, 2015, 07:31:52 PM
Whilst I know that only an AI will cut it, Mayo people have to be pretty happy with the joint management team so far? Navigated the league well and maintained D1 status, and seem to have tailored training well to peak at this time of year. No rumblings of discontent coming from the camp (that I've heard at least) and some good tactical abilities demonstrated (against us in particular).
They had a tough act to follow but seem to be doing a fine job so far?
There's been rumblings of discontent all year. Winning washes away all sins.
Quote from: StephenC on August 11, 2015, 07:31:52 PM
Whilst I know that only an AI will cut it, Mayo people have to be pretty happy with the joint management team so far? Navigated the league well and maintained D1 status, and seem to have tailored training well to peak at this time of year. No rumblings of discontent coming from the camp (that I've heard at least) and some good tactical abilities demonstrated (against us in particular).
They had a tough act to follow but seem to be doing a fine job so far?
I was fairly sceptical with the manner in which they were appointed but all credit to them, they've done extremely well
Quote from: StephenC on August 11, 2015, 07:31:52 PM
Whilst I know that only an AI will cut it, Mayo people have to be pretty happy with the joint management team so far? Navigated the league well and maintained D1 status, and seem to have tailored training well to peak at this time of year. No rumblings of discontent coming from the camp (that I've heard at least) and some good tactical abilities demonstrated (against us in particular).
They had a tough act to follow but seem to be doing a fine job so far?
Spot on. They've been under huge pressure from the word go because of the way they were appointed. They've impressed me so far, especially the last day. They seem to have handled the league intelligently and the 3 championship games so far have been good. There have been rumours of slight unrest during the league but not from any credible sources so I wouldn't heed them. Even if true, every squad has issues and teething problems. So far so good. Unfortunately as you said at the start, there's only one result that matters so the pressure isn't going to let up anytime soon. They knew this in fairness so I'm sure they can handle it.
I think this game will be a cracker. Two high octane teams who attack with serious pace and intent. Both a slightly less than secure defensively but always back themselves to get more scores than their opponents. We have a good idea where Mayo are at, it's slightly harder to work out with Dublin. I just think Mayo being slightly tighter at the back might clinch it but I'm sure it's going to be close and probably a high scoring classic.
We will have a proper game of football here lads, I will have to side with our old friends and greatest enemies on this one, come on Mayo.
If Mayo lose by more than 3 points esp in a disappointing manner all kinds of fools will be out with Pitchforks for the Boys .
Quote from: rosnarun on August 12, 2015, 10:25:54 AM
If Mayo lose by more than 3 points esp in a disappointing manner all kinds of fools will be out with Pitchforks for the Boys .
In fairness ye could use the 'we just weren't good enough' excuse for the Kerry games back in the mid 00s and the mid 99s. Everyone knows this Mayo team have been good enough to win an AI and if they don't do it they will go down as the greatest nearly men in GAA history.
of course they were good enough in the mid 90's the meath game ended in a a freak colm coyle point to draw the game. you literal could not gert closer than that.
and the kerry one we lost to to genius that was Maurice Fitz in his prime , no shame there even if he did not have a great team to back him up,
id agree with 2004 and 2006
Quote from: macdanger2 on August 11, 2015, 08:06:49 PM
Quote from: StephenC on August 11, 2015, 07:31:52 PM
Whilst I know that only an AI will cut it, Mayo people have to be pretty happy with the joint management team so far? Navigated the league well and maintained D1 status, and seem to have tailored training well to peak at this time of year. No rumblings of discontent coming from the camp (that I've heard at least) and some good tactical abilities demonstrated (against us in particular).
They had a tough act to follow but seem to be doing a fine job so far?
I was fairly sceptical with the manner in which they were appointed but all credit to them, they've done extremely well
Yeah, I thought Pateen wouldn't be able to organise a piss up in a brewery, going by his record the last time he was manager. He took a fine team and managed to lose every championship game they played. After the league game against the Dubs and thhe diabolical display of our team I was 100% certain that they wouldn't be able to beat Catty Barry, never winning the Connacht fiinal. However, himself and Noel seem to be on top of the joob and impproving with each outing. Now, only two to go! :D
Quote from: Lar Naparka on August 12, 2015, 01:29:11 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on August 11, 2015, 08:06:49 PM
Quote from: StephenC on August 11, 2015, 07:31:52 PM
Whilst I know that only an AI will cut it, Mayo people have to be pretty happy with the joint management team so far? Navigated the league well and maintained D1 status, and seem to have tailored training well to peak at this time of year. No rumblings of discontent coming from the camp (that I've heard at least) and some good tactical abilities demonstrated (against us in particular).
They had a tough act to follow but seem to be doing a fine job so far?
I was fairly sceptical with the manner in which they were appointed but all credit to them, they've done extremely well
Yeah, I thought Pateen wouldn't be able to organise a piss up in a brewery, going by his record the last time he was manager. He took a fine team and managed to lose every championship game they played. After the league game against the Dubs and thhe diabolical display of our team I was 100% certain that they wouldn't be able to beat Catty Barry, never winning the Connacht fiinal. However, himself and Noel seem to be on top of the joob and impproving with each outing. Now, only two to go! :D
At least he's continued his fine tradition of losing to Roscommon Lar.
Quote from: Lar Naparka on August 12, 2015, 01:29:11 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on August 11, 2015, 08:06:49 PM
Quote from: StephenC on August 11, 2015, 07:31:52 PM
Whilst I know that only an AI will cut it, Mayo people have to be pretty happy with the joint management team so far? Navigated the league well and maintained D1 status, and seem to have tailored training well to peak at this time of year. No rumblings of discontent coming from the camp (that I've heard at least) and some good tactical abilities demonstrated (against us in particular).
They had a tough act to follow but seem to be doing a fine job so far?
I was fairly sceptical with the manner in which they were appointed but all credit to them, they've done extremely well
Yeah, I thought Pateen wouldn't be able to organise a piss up in a brewery, going by his record the last time he was manager. He took a fine team and managed to lose every championship game they played. After the league game against the Dubs and thhe diabolical display of our team I was 100% certain that they wouldn't be able to beat Catty Barry, never winning the Connacht fiinal. However, himself and Noel seem to be on top of the joob and impproving with each outing. Now, only two to go! :D
Won you a national title I think.
Quote from: Canalman on August 12, 2015, 02:01:45 PM
Quote from: Lar Naparka on August 12, 2015, 01:29:11 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on August 11, 2015, 08:06:49 PM
Quote from: StephenC on August 11, 2015, 07:31:52 PM
Whilst I know that only an AI will cut it, Mayo people have to be pretty happy with the joint management team so far? Navigated the league well and maintained D1 status, and seem to have tailored training well to peak at this time of year. No rumblings of discontent coming from the camp (that I've heard at least) and some good tactical abilities demonstrated (against us in particular).
They had a tough act to follow but seem to be doing a fine job so far?
I was fairly sceptical with the manner in which they were appointed but all credit to them, they've done extremely well
Yeah, I thought Pateen wouldn't be able to organise a piss up in a brewery, going by his record the last time he was manager. He took a fine team and managed to lose every championship game they played. After the league game against the Dubs and thhe diabolical display of our team I was 100% certain that they wouldn't be able to beat Catty Barry, never winning the Connacht fiinal. However, himself and Noel seem to be on top of the joob and impproving with each outing. Now, only two to go! :D
Won you a national title I think.
2 National Titles - NFL and U-21.
Who are people rating as favorites heading into this one? I haven't seen any odds but in my mind Dublin would still be clear favorites?
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on August 12, 2015, 10:31:22 PM
Who are people rating as favorites heading into this one? I haven't seen any odds but in my mind Dublin would still be clear favorites?
Dublin clear favourites with the bookies.
Dublin 8/13
Mayo 13/8
Quote from: Hardy on August 12, 2015, 10:41:38 PM
Dublin 8/13
Mayo 13/8
We've shortened slightly since Sunday
Quote from: macdanger2 on August 12, 2015, 10:45:35 PM
Quote from: Hardy on August 12, 2015, 10:41:38 PM
Dublin 8/13
Mayo 13/8
We've shortened slightly since Sunday
That'll be down to our shrink-ray specialists .
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Quote from: macdanger2 on August 12, 2015, 10:45:35 PM
Quote from: Hardy on August 12, 2015, 10:41:38 PM
Dublin 8/13
Mayo 13/8
We've shortened slightly since Sunday
That'll be down to our shrink-ray specialists .
It's down to location, location and location. I don t hear the president of the GAA talking about giving big games to large provincial grounds these days? Hmmmmm. I cant imagine Limerick being used again - ever- for an AI semi in football. A joke!
Dublin should not be losing this at home. Mayo would need to be better considerably everywhere to win this, and while I think we are better we are not better enough to overcome the advantages that Dublin have.
I'm also half expecting Cormac Reilly appointed for this, just to put us in our place more. I remember Eamon McEneaney being given the job of us v Kerry in 04, after he fucked us in 06. Right away he gave the most soft couple of frees against Heaney, just to show how strong he was. I have no expectation of fairness going into this at all.
Quote from: moysider on August 13, 2015, 12:03:08 AM
Quote from: Jell 0 Biafra on August 12, 2015, 10:53:55 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on August 12, 2015, 10:45:35 PM
Quote from: Hardy on August 12, 2015, 10:41:38 PM
Dublin 8/13
Mayo 13/8
We've shortened slightly since Sunday
That'll be down to our shrink-ray specialists .
It's down to location, location and location. I don t hear the president of the GAA talking about giving big games to large provincial grounds these days? Hmmmmm. I cant imagine Limerick being used again - ever- for an AI semi in football. A joke!
Dublin should not be losing this at home. Mayo would need to be better considerably everywhere to win this, and while I think we are better we are not better enough to overcome the advantages that Dublin have.
I'm also half expecting Cormac Reilly appointed for this, just to put us in our place more. I remember Eamon McEneaney being given the job of us v Kerry in 04, after he fucked us in 06. Right away he gave the most soft couple of frees against Heaney, just to show how strong he was. I have no expectation of fairness going into this at all.
Surely home advantage couldn't make that much of a difference
Is any one else worried about the form of Cillian O'Connor?
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on August 13, 2015, 12:09:47 AM
Is any one else worried about the form of Cillian O'Connor?
He was fine until he took the free from the right side-line. After that he went a bit quite from play but he set up Keegan's goal remember.
If we had a reliable left-footed free taker we might have an All-Ireland by now. I think it affected McLoughlin's form badly, having to hit them and maybe Varley too. If the percentage return from frees from the right is poor (we were 0 from 2 against Donegal) why not drop them on O'Shea on the 6 yard line, or go short? Watching a player deflate and go out of form, because he doesn't fancy them, is a drum we should stop beating.
I just don't think Dublin are playing as well this year as they were in 2013-14. They were playing football from another planet last year and if Connolly or Brogan had taken those goal chances against Donegal they'd be going for three-in-a-row.
Contrast Flynn and Macauley's form this year to those years. If they have a big game in them Dublin could win but I'd fancy Mayo.
I also don't think Dublin are any more solid defensively. Indeed I think they have robbed Peter without paying Paul because they're slightly less fearsome going forward and no more solid at the back.
I mean as much as a mismatch as Dublin v Kildare was, we scored 0-14 and could have had 1-20 with even reasonable kicking. Contrast to how utterly Kerry shut us down.
If Mayo don't concede stupid goals I'd expect them to win a close one.
Right, the dust has settled on our quarter final win over Donegal and it's time for a reality check. There seems to be quite a few up and down the country jumping on the Mayo bandwagon after beating the 'evil', impure Donegal team. Mayo can apparently do no wrong. Aidan O'Shea and Lee Keegan ride majestic, translucent steeds, shooting flaming arrows across the bridge of Hemdale.
Nobody, and I mean nobody knows more not to get carried away with the sort of talk we have heard over the last few days than Mayo folk. Those same journalists and experts who are so quick to heap praise on us wouldn't be long twisting the knife into us if we aren't able to overcome Dublin and the ultimate prize on the third Sunday of September. I have never heard so many kind, almost condescending drivel in all my life. Here and over on the HoganStand forum. There's a famous quote from Keith Duggan after us losing the '06 final: 'Don't pity Mayo, because they will be turning up and beating you before too long'. I think we have come a long way since then. We no longer seek out pity. We have become ruthless and yes, contrary to popular belief, dabble in the same dark arts that have seen Tyrone come under so much scrutiny in the past few months (Maybe not on the same scale). Just ask Galway and maybe Roscommon if they think we are a 'nice' team to play against.
That extra layer of skin is down to the good work that James Horan put in for four years. There is only one thing that will satisfy the hunger of this Mayo team. They will not be getting carried away with the talk of 'Mayo for Sam 15'. They won't be looking beyond the Dublin game, don't you worry. I read something yesterday that one of the Dublin backs hadn't seen Mayo play this year. Dublin are raging hot favorites going into this game and with very good reason. As Moysider points out, they have the important home advantage. They are reigning national league champions. They hammered us in Castlebar earlier this year. Our free taker had a howler the last day (by his standards). We don't have a left footed free taker. We beat a tired Donegal team in the quarters and should be looking to shift up at least two gears if we are to beat Dublin.
There are an awful lot of Dublin fans trying to claim that we're actually the favourites going into this. Dublin will have regained their appetite for Sam after the loss to Donegal last year. They'll be hopping off the dressing room walls before the match ready to get at us and right those wrongs.
We always play better when we are against the odds. We should be using the loss in '13 as motivation to knock seven shades of sh1te out of Dublin. It's going to be one heck of a game and the feckin thing is still a week and a half away!
Quote from: Bod Mor on August 13, 2015, 05:02:03 AM
Right, the dust has settled on our quarter final win over Donegal and it's time for a reality check. There seems to be quite a few up and down the country jumping on the Mayo bandwagon after beating the 'evil', impure Donegal team. Mayo can apparently do know wrong. Aidan O'Shea and Lee Keegan ride majestic, translucent steeds, shooting flaming arrows across the bridge of Hemdale.
Nobody, and I mean nobody knows more not to get carried away with the sort of talk we have heard over the last few days than Mayo folk. Those same journalists and experts who are so quick to heap praise on us wouldn't be long twisting the knife into us if we aren't able to overcome Dublin and the ultimate prize on the third Sunday of September. I have never heard so many kind, almost condescending drivel in all my life. Here and over on the HoganStand forum. There's a famous quote from Keith Duggan after us losing the '06 final: 'Don't pity Mayo, because they will be turning up and beating you before too long'. I think we have come a long way since then. We no longer seek out pity. We have become ruthless and yes, contrary to popular belief, dabble in the same dark arts that have seen Tyrone come under so much scrutiny in the past few months (Maybe not on the same scale). Just ask Galway and maybe Roscommon if they think we are a 'nice' team to play against.
That extra layer of skin is down to the good work that James Horan put in for four years. There is only one thing that will satisfy the hunger of this Mayo team. They will not be getting carried away with the talk of 'Mayo for Sam 15'. They won't be looking beyond the Dublin game, don't you worry. I read something yesterday that one of the Dublin backs hadn't seen Mayo play this year. Dublin are raging hot favorites going into this game and with very good reason. As Moysider points out, they have the important home advantage. They are reigning national league champions. They hammered us in Castlebar earlier this year. Our free taker had a howler the last day (by his standards). We don't have a left footed free taker. We beat a tired Donegal team in the quarters and should be looking to shift up at least two gears if we are to beat Dublin.
There are an awful lot of Dublin fans trying to claim that we're actually the favourites going into this. Dublin will have regained their appetite for Sam after the loss to Donegal last year. They'll be hopping off the dressing room walls before the match ready to get at us and right those wrongs.
We always play better when we are against the odds. We should be using the loss in '13 as motivation to knock seven shades of sh1te out of Dublin. It's going to be one heck of a game and the feckin thing is still a week and a half away!
Even now Mayo are wallflowers compared to the likes of Tyrone and Donegal. Maybe a little tougher (mainly conditioning than a massively changed attitude to winning at any cost) than ye were before but at times ye can be as naive as ever. The worst I can recall is AOS in his reckless youth swinging arms and elbows about, he gave Donal Ward a serious head injury back in 2011. It was like a child that had watched a video of Conor Gormley and figured it'd be a good idea to try it himself, there wasn't much rhyme or reason to it. I've seen plenty of ulster teams play up close in recent years and Mayo are still like innocent babes compared to most of that stuff, and thankfully so.
Bord Mor, the game is still 2 and a half weeks away!
Big disadvantage to the Dubs having 4 weeks between games!
Quote from: Syferus on August 13, 2015, 05:18:51 AM
Quote from: Bod Mor on August 13, 2015, 05:02:03 AM
Right, the dust has settled on our quarter final win over Donegal and it's time for a reality check. There seems to be quite a few up and down the country jumping on the Mayo bandwagon after beating the 'evil', impure Donegal team. Mayo can apparently do know wrong. Aidan O'Shea and Lee Keegan ride majestic, translucent steeds, shooting flaming arrows across the bridge of Hemdale.
Nobody, and I mean nobody knows more not to get carried away with the sort of talk we have heard over the last few days than Mayo folk. Those same journalists and experts who are so quick to heap praise on us wouldn't be long twisting the knife into us if we aren't able to overcome Dublin and the ultimate prize on the third Sunday of September. I have never heard so many kind, almost condescending drivel in all my life. Here and over on the HoganStand forum. There's a famous quote from Keith Duggan after us losing the '06 final: 'Don't pity Mayo, because they will be turning up and beating you before too long'. I think we have come a long way since then. We no longer seek out pity. We have become ruthless and yes, contrary to popular belief, dabble in the same dark arts that have seen Tyrone come under so much scrutiny in the past few months (Maybe not on the same scale). Just ask Galway and maybe Roscommon if they think we are a 'nice' team to play against.
That extra layer of skin is down to the good work that James Horan put in for four years. There is only one thing that will satisfy the hunger of this Mayo team. They will not be getting carried away with the talk of 'Mayo for Sam 15'. They won't be looking beyond the Dublin game, don't you worry. I read something yesterday that one of the Dublin backs hadn't seen Mayo play this year. Dublin are raging hot favorites going into this game and with very good reason. As Moysider points out, they have the important home advantage. They are reigning national league champions. They hammered us in Castlebar earlier this year. Our free taker had a howler the last day (by his standards). We don't have a left footed free taker. We beat a tired Donegal team in the quarters and should be looking to shift up at least two gears if we are to beat Dublin.
There are an awful lot of Dublin fans trying to claim that we're actually the favourites going into this. Dublin will have regained their appetite for Sam after the loss to Donegal last year. They'll be hopping off the dressing room walls before the match ready to get at us and right those wrongs.
We always play better when we are against the odds. We should be using the loss in '13 as motivation to knock seven shades of sh1te out of Dublin. It's going to be one heck of a game and the feckin thing is still a week and a half away!
Even now Mayo are wallflowers compared to the likes of Tyrone and Donegal. Maybe a little tougher (mainly conditioning than a massively changed attitude to winning at any cost) than ye were before but at times ye can be as naive as ever. The worst I can recall is AOS in his reckless youth swinging arms and elbows about, he gave Donal Ward a serious head injury back in 2011. It was like a child that had watched a video of Conor Gormley and figured it'd be a good idea to try it himself, there wasn't much rhyme or reason to it. I've seen plenty of ulster teams play up close in recent years and Mayo are still like innocent babes compared to most of that stuff, and thankfully so.
Do you get your mother to tuck you into bed and leave the light on for you after you watch the big bad Ulster teams play? I'm just glad the teams from our province have a bit of heart and resolve about them and aren't afraid of their own shadows.
For what it's worth Mayo are well able to handle themselves and well able to be cynical and lower the blade when they need to, just like all the other big teams. What has gone against them in the past few years is that they have lost composure and concentration at key times, nothing to with the fact they play a more innocent brand of football. I think they would be my favourites to win it this year, seeing the absolute dominance they had over Donegal in the middle of the pitch on Saturday was startling and they also seem to have tightened up at the back and are no longer playing the naive all out pushing forward football that let them rife fro coughing up goals at big moments
Donegal were tired. That's why we beat them.
Good post Bod Mor.
Very reminiscent of the '13 final the way journos are all over Mayo. Dublin are hard beaten in Croke Park. It was McMahon who said he hasn't watched Mayo this year and might not even matter, he'll do well to hold his place. I'm not sure if Dublin particularly rate Mayo...'12 semi is often mentioned with going asleep 10 minutes either side of half time and Mayo players time wasting .
'13 bypasses Mayo midfield easily and had about 13 lads able to run for last 10 minutes and still got job done.
Cluxton sent off and a rake of points down and still managed to get a draw in the league in Croke Park last year and then the clipping this year in Castlebar.
All of which is fine as previous games don't matter a shite when you step out onto the pitch.
Going to be the first sellout game of the year
And Joe McQuillan gets the gig....
it has just occurred to me that 30 years ago this year mayo played Dublin in a semi final. it was my first trip to croke park to see mayo play. i was 8 years old and at the time it was the greatest experience of my life. i remember it like it was yesterday. the flag sellers, the fans, walking out into the stand and the pitch looking immaculate. as far as i recall we walked up to the hogan stand and bought a ticket on the gate.
as i write this i realize that i still get a little bit of that feeling every time i go to croke park and first glimpse the pitch, it's just magical. i was there for the replay that year as well and Padraig brogan's goal is still the greatest i have ever seen. my father and i were sitting in the first row of the upper hogan, when the goal went in he lifted me up and held me out over the edge of the stand, shaking me as a kind of sacrificial offering to football greatness, i have a fear of heights ever since.
i love going to croke park and by god have we been spoilt over the last few years. most of all i love when we play Dublin, the games are always massive and the buzz cannot be topped, to hear the hill roar and then to hear it silenced!!
also in my opinion Dublin fans are the best of the best, magnanimous in victory and defeat, good craic and decent.
my oldest lad is 5 this year and i am mad to bring him but he has his first day of school the next day so it might not be a good idea, its a long drive home when your 5.
i cant wait!!
Quote from: guy crouchback on August 13, 2015, 09:57:05 AM
it has just occurred to me that 30 years ago this year mayo played Dublin in a semi final. it was my first trip to croke park to see mayo play. i was 8 years old and at the time it was the greatest experience of my life. i remember it like it was yesterday. the flag sellers, the fans, walking out into the stand and pitch looking immaculate. as far as i recall we walked up the hogan stand and bought a ticket on the gate.
as i write this i realise that i still get a little bit of that feeling every time i go to croke park and first glimpse the pitch, it's just magical. i was there for the replay that year as well and Padraig brogan's goal is still the greatest i have ever seen. my father and i were sitting in the first row of the upper hogan, when the goal went in he lifted me up and held me out over the edge of the stand, shaking me as a kind of sacrificial offering to football greatness, i have a fear of heights ever since.
i love going to croke park and by god have we been spoilt over the last few years. most of all i love when we play Dublin, the games are always massive and the buzz cannot be topped, to hear the hill roar and then to hear it silenced!!
also in my opinion Dublin fans are the best of the best magnanimous in victory and defeat, good craic and decent.
my oldest lad is 5 this year and i am mad to bring him but he has his first day of school the next day so it might not be a good idea, its a long drive home when your 5.
i cant wait!!
Great post
Quote from: muppet on August 12, 2015, 10:54:57 PM
Quote from: Jell 0 Biafra on August 12, 2015, 10:53:55 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on August 12, 2015, 10:45:35 PM
Quote from: Hardy on August 12, 2015, 10:41:38 PM
Dublin 8/13
Mayo 13/8
We've shortened slightly since Sunday
That'll be down to our shrink-ray specialists .
That's grand, we'll use it to stay under the radar.
You do know Reek Sunday was cancelled this year and the last time that happened .................................
You're well over the radar and the planets are aligning for you.
Great posts here by Bod Mór and Guy Crouchback.
Bad post by Bucko. :D
McQuillan's Wiki page is a bit different: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_McQuillan (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_McQuillan)
Whilst performing his duties as a linesman at the Cavan county final 2014, McQuillan seems to want to assume his preferred position of center stage. The result of McQuillan's "significant influence" being ref Oliver Og O Reilly's decision to change his mind, with the result the dismissal of Kingscourt Stars center back Padraig Faulkner in the 11th minute of the game between strong favorites Cavan Gaels and their traditional rivals Kingscourt Stars.
Quote from: guy crouchback on August 13, 2015, 09:57:05 AM
it has just occurred to me that 30 years ago this year mayo played Dublin in a semi final. it was my first trip to croke park to see mayo play. i was 8 years old and at the time it was the greatest experience of my life. i remember it like it was yesterday. the flag sellers, the fans, walking out into the stand and the pitch looking immaculate. as far as i recall we walked up to the hogan stand and bought a ticket on the gate.
as i write this i realize that i still get a little bit of that feeling every time i go to croke park and first glimpse the pitch, it's just magical. i was there for the replay that year as well and Padraig brogan's goal is still the greatest i have ever seen. my father and i were sitting in the first row of the upper hogan, when the goal went in he lifted me up and held me out over the edge of the stand, shaking me as a kind of sacrificial offering to football greatness, i have a fear of heights ever since.
i love going to croke park and by god have we been spoilt over the last few years. most of all i love when we play Dublin, the games are always massive and the buzz cannot be topped, to hear the hill roar and then to hear it silenced!!
also in my opinion Dublin fans are the best of the best, magnanimous in victory and defeat, good craic and decent.
my oldest lad is 5 this year and i am mad to bring him but he has his first day of school the next day so it might not be a good idea, its a long drive home when your 5.
i cant wait!!
Excellent post
just for the craic i expanded on that post above, a little piece on what it means to me.
It's hard to describe the excitement I felt on that first trip to Croke park, the 18Th of august 1985 (yes of course I had to look it up!). I was 8 years old and me and my dad were going off for the day to the big game. looking back now he was probably as excited as I was, he would have been 37 at the time, younger then I am now and in his lifetime mayo had given him very few days out in Dublin, I was the eldest so it was just me and him. Up early for a bus to Dublin. I don't remember much about the bus journey up except that I was worried about my new flag. I was told I had to leave it in the overhead locker and I did not like being parted from it. it was the height of fashion that year, red and green horizontal bars as opposed to the more traditional vertical. God I loved that flag I kept it for years, until it became so frayed at the edges it was little more than a collection of streamers.
I remember being out the back of the Hogan stand waiting to go in and being in awe of this huge structure. In my mind's eye it's a beautiful sunny day. we went inside and it was dark and forbidding the toilets were horrible and crowed and my earlier euphoria was beginning to fade. Then the magic happened, a spell was cast on me that remains to this day. We turned the corner to our section and walked towards the blinding light and there it was, Croker in all its glory, the field a brilliant striped green a field like non I'd ever seen, there was no HDTV in 1985 so I had literally never seen anything as perfect, and then there were that stands and the people and the hill and all the blue and all the green and red. All the green and red, and my dad seemed to know everyone and every one was calling out and shouting and excited we took our seats and I got my first lesson in how to strike up conversations with strangers at football matches. to me the opposition were the big bad dubs so I was a bit surprised by the chatting with all the Dublin supporters, all the craic, I think I learned I was culchie that day, ( I already knew they were only auld jackeens!) My dad had worked in Dublin years before and of course he knew some relation of the guy behind us, I was trying to get my game face on but he kept gasbagging with the enemy!!
Then the band and the parade and the anthem and mayo were doing well, Kevin mc stay tj kilgallon, willie joe padden, john finn and the rest. The excitement was too much, the game went by in flash, we drew!! I was delighted but I got the impression the older ones new it was no good that we had lost our chance, still no harm we would be back and if not this year then next, I saw the future as being centred on my new favourite place in the world, the naivety of youth. Still as I said the spell was cast, the grass, the noise, the crowds the colour, the band, the players, the game, in later years the pubs, the friends, the nights out before and after, now its heading back to the day trips with kids again, the world turns. The kids, nothing sums up the GAA more than the kids that go to games big and small with their flags and headbands and hats and jerseys and a ferocious belief in their team that is hard to maintain as the years pass buy.
So in two weeks we meet again, about a third of the population of Mayo will actually leave the county and head to Dublin, we will meet our best friends and people we haven't seen in years as we amble down the north circular, outside gills we will meet some Dubs we know and the craic will flow, heroes of yesteryear will walk buy and dads will whisper their names to the little ones " look that's wille joe padden over there'', "See yer man son, that's Barney Rock", the kids will nod but don't really care they only have eyes for Aiden or Bernard.
Then inside and it happens all over again, the bright light from the tunnel, the incredible green, the noise the roar of the hill, ''come on you boys in blue'', MAYO MAYO MAYO MAYO'' in response from around the ground growing louder and louder. Then a winner and a loser, Who shall it be? Doesn't really matter.
Great stuff. I was with you until this
QuoteThen a winner and a loser, Who shall it be? Doesn't really matter.
;) ;)
Brilliant
I have fairly similar memories of Mayo v meath in 88 including myself and my brother being lifted over the turnstiles as was the practice back then with kids
Quote from: muppet on August 13, 2015, 11:58:47 AM
Great posts here by Bod Mór and Guy Crouchback.
Bad post by Bucko. :D
McQuillan's Wiki page is a bit different: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_McQuillan (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_McQuillan)
Whilst performing his duties as a linesman at the Cavan county final 2014, McQuillan seems to want to assume his preferred position of center stage. The result of McQuillan's "significant influence" being ref Oliver Og O Reilly's decision to change his mind, with the result the dismissal of Kingscourt Stars center back Padraig Faulkner in the 11th minute of the game between strong favorites Cavan Gaels and their traditional rivals Kingscourt Stars.
Don't shoot the messenger.... :-\
Quote from: guy crouchback on August 13, 2015, 04:34:55 PM
just for the craic i expanded on that post above, a little piece on what it means to me.
It's hard to describe the excitement I felt on that first trip to Croke park, the 18Th of august 1985 (yes of course I had to look it up!). I was 8 years old and me and my dad were going off for the day to the big game. looking back now he was probably as excited as I was, he would have been 37 at the time, younger then I am now and in his lifetime mayo had given him very few days out in Dublin, I was the eldest so it was just me and him. Up early for a bus to Dublin. I don't remember much about the bus journey up except that I was worried about my new flag. I was told I had to leave it in the overhead locker and I did not like being parted from it. it was the height of fashion that year, red and green horizontal bars as opposed to the more traditional vertical. God I loved that flag I kept it for years, until it became so frayed at the edges it was little more than a collection of streamers.
I remember being out the back of the Hogan stand waiting to go in and being in awe of this huge structure. In my mind's eye it's a beautiful sunny day. we went inside and it was dark and forbidding the toilets were horrible and crowed and my earlier euphoria was beginning to fade. Then the magic happened, a spell was cast on me that remains to this day. We turned the corner to our section and walked towards the blinding light and there it was, Croker in all its glory, the field a brilliant striped green a field like non I'd ever seen, there was no HDTV in 1985 so I had literally never seen anything as perfect, and then there were that stands and the people and the hill and all the blue and all the green and red. All the green and red, and my dad seemed to know everyone and every one was calling out and shouting and excited we took our seats and I got my first lesson in how to strike up conversations with strangers at football matches. to me the opposition were the big bad dubs so I was a bit surprised by the chatting with all the Dublin supporters, all the craic, I think I learned I was culchie that day, ( I already knew they were only auld jackeens!) My dad had worked in Dublin years before and of course he knew some relation of the guy behind us, I was trying to get my game face on but he kept gasbagging with the enemy!!
Then the band and the parade and the anthem and mayo were doing well, Kevin mc stay tj kilgallon, willie joe padden, john finn and the rest. The excitement was too much, the game went by in flash, we drew!! I was delighted but I got the impression the older ones new it was no good that we had lost our chance, still no harm we would be back and if not this year then next, I saw the future as being centred on my new favourite place in the world, the naivety of youth. Still as I said the spell was cast, the grass, the noise, the crowds the colour, the band, the players, the game, in later years the pubs, the friends, the nights out before and after, now its heading back to the day trips with kids again, the world turns. The kids, nothing sums up the GAA more than the kids that go to games big and small with their flags and headbands and hats and jerseys and a ferocious belief in their team that is hard to maintain as the years pass buy.
So in two weeks we meet again, about a third of the population of Mayo will actually leave the county and head to Dublin, we will meet our best friends and people we haven't seen in years as we amble down the north circular, outside gills we will meet some Dubs we know and the craic will flow, heroes of yesteryear will walk buy and dads will whisper their names to the little ones " look that's wille joe padden over there'', "See yer man son, that's Barney Rock", the kids will nod but don't really care they only have eyes for Aiden or Bernard.
Then inside and it happens all over again, the bright light from the tunnel, the incredible green, the noise the roar of the hill, ''come on you boys in blue'', MAYO MAYO MAYO MAYO'' in response from around the ground growing louder and louder. Then a winner and a loser, Who shall it be? Doesn't really matter.
One of my memories of that time was being on a packed Hill for the replay of the 1985 Dublin/Mayo semi final. The Hill in those days was a Hillsborough disaster that never happened (thank God). When Cieran Duff scored his second goal of the day the whole Hill swayed forward violently towards the pitch but thankfully righted itself just as quickly. But at the time no one on the Hill was in the slightest concerned about a potential disaster - we were all enveloped in a blue heaven of elation.
Quote from: guy crouchback on August 13, 2015, 04:34:55 PM
just for the craic i expanded on that post above, a little piece on what it means to me.
It's hard to describe the excitement I felt on that first trip to Croke park, the 18Th of august 1985 (yes of course I had to look it up!). I was 8 years old and me and my dad were going off for the day to the big game. looking back now he was probably as excited as I was, he would have been 37 at the time, younger then I am now and in his lifetime mayo had given him very few days out in Dublin, I was the eldest so it was just me and him. Up early for a bus to Dublin. I don't remember much about the bus journey up except that I was worried about my new flag. I was told I had to leave it in the overhead locker and I did not like being parted from it. it was the height of fashion that year, red and green horizontal bars as opposed to the more traditional vertical. God I loved that flag I kept it for years, until it became so frayed at the edges it was little more than a collection of streamers.
I remember being out the back of the Hogan stand waiting to go in and being in awe of this huge structure. In my mind's eye it's a beautiful sunny day. we went inside and it was dark and forbidding the toilets were horrible and crowed and my earlier euphoria was beginning to fade. Then the magic happened, a spell was cast on me that remains to this day. We turned the corner to our section and walked towards the blinding light and there it was, Croker in all its glory, the field a brilliant striped green a field like non I'd ever seen, there was no HDTV in 1985 so I had literally never seen anything as perfect, and then there were that stands and the people and the hill and all the blue and all the green and red. All the green and red, and my dad seemed to know everyone and every one was calling out and shouting and excited we took our seats and I got my first lesson in how to strike up conversations with strangers at football matches. to me the opposition were the big bad dubs so I was a bit surprised by the chatting with all the Dublin supporters, all the craic, I think I learned I was culchie that day, ( I already knew they were only auld jackeens!) My dad had worked in Dublin years before and of course he knew some relation of the guy behind us, I was trying to get my game face on but he kept gasbagging with the enemy!!
Then the band and the parade and the anthem and mayo were doing well, Kevin mc stay tj kilgallon, willie joe padden, john finn and the rest. The excitement was too much, the game went by in flash, we drew!! I was delighted but I got the impression the older ones new it was no good that we had lost our chance, still no harm we would be back and if not this year then next, I saw the future as being centred on my new favourite place in the world, the naivety of youth. Still as I said the spell was cast, the grass, the noise, the crowds the colour, the band, the players, the game, in later years the pubs, the friends, the nights out before and after, now its heading back to the day trips with kids again, the world turns. The kids, nothing sums up the GAA more than the kids that go to games big and small with their flags and headbands and hats and jerseys and a ferocious belief in their team that is hard to maintain as the years pass buy.
So in two weeks we meet again, about a third of the population of Mayo will actually leave the county and head to Dublin, we will meet our best friends and people we haven't seen in years as we amble down the north circular, outside gills we will meet some Dubs we know and the craic will flow, heroes of yesteryear will walk buy and dads will whisper their names to the little ones " look that's wille joe padden over there'', "See yer man son, that's Barney Rock", the kids will nod but don't really care they only have eyes for Aiden or Bernard.
Then inside and it happens all over again, the bright light from the tunnel, the incredible green, the noise the roar of the hill, ''come on you boys in blue'', MAYO MAYO MAYO MAYO'' in response from around the ground growing louder and louder. Then a winner and a loser, Who shall it be? Doesn't really matter.
Was my first trip to Croke Park too....I as a little older, so it was our first time being allowed to travel to Dublin on the train without parental supervision. To say we went stone mad would be an understatement
Can't see past the Dubs for this one, unfortunately
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on August 14, 2015, 11:46:50 AM
Can't see past the Dubs for this one, unfortunately
Good, we shouldn't be looking past anyone at this stage. Until we win it.
A good start is essential in this. If we can stop them from scoring goals our recent history suggests we can match anyone for points and Aidan O'Sé gives us a real goal threat ourselves. But he also gives us more than that, he has become a real game changer in that teams will now set themselves up differently just to deal with him. My Dublin neighbours don't think Gavin will do this, much to their dismay. But I would be astonished if he doesn't double team O'Sé.
As for stopping the Dublin forwards from scoring goals, that is easier said than done. I can't see us going with Barry at sweeper for this one, but who knows. He did very well the last day.
I think this is still Dublin's All Ireland to lose
(But I Said that last year too)
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on August 14, 2015, 01:01:50 PM
I think this is still Dublin's All Ireland to lose
(But I Said that last year too)
The contributors to the poll above don't think so.
QuoteAnd Joe McQuillan gets the gig....
If memory serves me correct Joe is fond of his whistle?
Smurf Gavin was having a go at him after the '13 final. http://www.the42.ie/jim-gavin-dublin-mayo-1095609-Sep2013/
A bit off course here but has Cake lost his mind (quite probable) or is he roughly correct when he says this?
"I think Mayo are spending in the region of €12,000 to €15,000 euros a week preparing their senior team. That's not being done in a month in Roscommon."
That is crazy money!
http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/football/curran-roscommon-should-move-heaven-and-earth-to-lure-mcstay-and-odonnell-348135.html?utm_source=link&utm_medium=click&utm_campaign=nextandprev
Quote from: omagh_gael on August 14, 2015, 03:41:42 PM
A bit off course here but has Cake lost his mind (quite probable) or is he roughly correct when he says this?
"I think Mayo are spending in the region of €12,000 to €15,000 euros a week preparing their senior team. That's not being done in a month in Roscommon."
That is crazy money!
http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/football/curran-roscommon-should-move-heaven-and-earth-to-lure-mcstay-and-odonnell-348135.html?utm_source=link&utm_medium=click&utm_campaign=nextandprev
Didn't Mayo have to be bailed out by Croke Park a few years ago? There is no way they would be paying that a week. Curran would be partial to talking out of his hoop
15k per week x 9 mths of the year = 585k
Surely they're spending more than that?
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on August 14, 2015, 01:01:50 PM
I think this is still Dublin's All Ireland to lose
(But I Said that last year too)
I think, that if Kerry get over Tyrone they'll beat whoever wins this semi.
I think, that if Kerry get over Tyrone they'll beat whoever wins this semi.
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Why the big fear of Kerry? They have a great midfield duo and some brilliant forwards and an excellent manager but there far from unbeatable.
Quote from: redhandefender on August 14, 2015, 04:01:25 PM
Quote from: omagh_gael on August 14, 2015, 03:41:42 PM
A bit off course here but has Cake lost his mind (quite probable) or is he roughly correct when he says this?
"I think Mayo are spending in the region of €12,000 to €15,000 euros a week preparing their senior team. That's not being done in a month in Roscommon."
That is crazy money!
http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/football/curran-roscommon-should-move-heaven-and-earth-to-lure-mcstay-and-odonnell-348135.html?utm_source=link&utm_medium=click&utm_campaign=nextandprev
Didn't Mayo have to be bailed out by Croke Park a few years ago? There is no way they would be paying that a week. Curran would be partial to talking out of his hoop
No bail out from Croke Park , they just took over the loan from Ulster Bank allowing a longer term for Mayo to pay the loan back to the GAA ,something like a change form 10 years to 25 years. This has meant Mayo have lower annual payment taking the pressure off day to day running costs but will lead to Mayo paying back more interest and more money over the longer term of the loan.
Quote from: mayoman dan on August 14, 2015, 04:38:09 PM
I think, that if Kerry get over Tyrone they'll beat whoever wins this semi.
Why the big fear of Kerry? They have a great midfield duo and some brilliant forwards and an excellent manager but there far from unbeatable.
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I'd argue that they are a more 'mature' outfit this year. I mean, last year's win would have eased their doubts and brought them on. As you said yourself, brill forwards. As bad as their backs are made out to be, O'Mahony is as good now as he ever was imo.
Quote from: redhandefender on August 14, 2015, 04:01:25 PM
Quote from: omagh_gael on August 14, 2015, 03:41:42 PM
A bit off course here but has Cake lost his mind (quite probable) or is he roughly correct when he says this?
"I think Mayo are spending in the region of €12,000 to €15,000 euros a week preparing their senior team. That's not being done in a month in Roscommon."
That is crazy money!
http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/football/curran-roscommon-should-move-heaven-and-earth-to-lure-mcstay-and-odonnell-348135.html?utm_source=link&utm_medium=click&utm_campaign=nextandprev
Didn't Mayo have to be bailed out by Croke Park a few years ago? There is no way they would be paying that a week. Curran would be partial to talking out of his hoop
Their loans (for the monstrosity of a stand) were taken over from the bank by CP to reduce interest payments. Full amount will still be repaid though.
It was reported as around 10k / week earlier in the year. Have a look at the annual amounts spent by all counties there, the money being spent is savage . The top counties are spending the most by far but even the sums spent by counties who only win a couple of games a year is obscene
Cake is pretty much right. IC has been totally warped by money.
Quote from: Syferus on August 14, 2015, 06:35:11 PM
Cake is pretty much right. IC has been totally warped by money.
Professional setups cost money. I don't refer to inter county players as professionals because all protestations to the contrary they are not professional athletes.
They are amateurs within professional setups which underlines how silly the whole inter county game has gone
Quote from: INDIANA on August 14, 2015, 06:54:08 PM
Quote from: Syferus on August 14, 2015, 06:35:11 PM
Cake is pretty much right. IC has been totally warped by money.
Professional setups cost money. I don't refer to inter county players as professionals because all protestations to the contrary they are not professional athletes.
They are amateurs within professional setups which underlines how silly the whole inter county game has gone
On top of all that they now have professional commitments to the media as well as professional prices paid by the common man to see them. All put extra demands on players.
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 14, 2015, 08:29:59 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on August 14, 2015, 06:54:08 PM
Quote from: Syferus on August 14, 2015, 06:35:11 PM
Cake is pretty much right. IC has been totally warped by money.
Professional setups cost money. I don't refer to inter county players as professionals because all protestations to the contrary they are not professional athletes.
They are amateurs within professional setups which underlines how silly the whole inter county game has gone
On top of all that they now have professional commitments to the media as well as professional prices paid by the common man to see them. All put extra demands on players.
The GAA are making 'professional profits'
Just wondering is this game sold out now? I presume Dublin and Mayo have the highest allocation of season tickets and all the crappy tickets on the edges of the Hogan, Cusack and Davin upper and lower look to have been cleared on Tickets.ie. I presume the Clubs get what is left?
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 15, 2015, 08:27:42 PM
Just wondering is this game sold out now? I presume Dublin and Mayo have the highest allocation of season tickets and all the crappy tickets on the edges of the Hogan, Cusack and Davin upper and lower look to have been cleared on Tickets.ie. I presume the Clubs get what is left?
first sell out of the year
Quote from: INDIANA on August 15, 2015, 08:29:06 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 15, 2015, 08:27:42 PM
Just wondering is this game sold out now? I presume Dublin and Mayo have the highest allocation of season tickets and all the crappy tickets on the edges of the Hogan, Cusack and Davin upper and lower look to have been cleared on Tickets.ie. I presume the Clubs get what is left?
first sell out of the year
I have a friend who bargains on getting tickets returned from the club! Told him he is playing a dangerous game. But i suppose if you want one you'll get one!
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 15, 2015, 08:43:09 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on August 15, 2015, 08:29:06 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 15, 2015, 08:27:42 PM
Just wondering is this game sold out now? I presume Dublin and Mayo have the highest allocation of season tickets and all the crappy tickets on the edges of the Hogan, Cusack and Davin upper and lower look to have been cleared on Tickets.ie. I presume the Clubs get what is left?
first sell out of the year
I have a friend who bargains on getting tickets returned from the club! Told him he is playing a dangerous game. But i suppose if you want one you'll get one!
There are 40,000 tickets held in reserve for the two counties
2 weeks ;D ;D
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 15, 2015, 08:27:42 PM
Just wondering is this game sold out now? I presume Dublin and Mayo have the highest allocation of season tickets and all the crappy tickets on the edges of the Hogan, Cusack and Davin upper and lower look to have been cleared on Tickets.ie. I presume the Clubs get what is left?
Haven t got a decent ticket yet from my Cairde package for the last games. Ye'd want to be
vertigo free for sure.
At least ye get in though!
But why the mad rush now? CP was half full for Leinster heavy-weights like Dublin, Kildare and Meath. As bad for double header Q-finals? The hurling last weekend was watery enough too. What's the rush now?
Quote from: moysider on August 16, 2015, 12:51:34 AM
But why the mad rush now? CP was half full for Leinster heavy-weights like Dublin, Kildare and Meath. As bad for double header Q-finals? The hurling last weekend was watery enough too. What's the rush now?
Mayo fans think they have a chance of winning
Dublin fans think they have a chance of losing
Neutrals think they have a chance of seeing a good game!
It has the 'makings' of a good game. Then again, so did the league game. I must be one of the few Mayo fans who think we will lose.
P.S. moy, where were Cairde tickets for the Donegal game? I'm using bring a friend, and am in Upper Cusack for this game.
Quote from: Farrandeelin on August 16, 2015, 08:52:14 AM
It has the 'makings' of a good game. Then again, so did the league game. I must be one of the few Mayo fans who think we will lose.
P.S. moy, where were Cairde tickets for the Donegal game? I'm using bring a friend, and am in Upper Cusack for this game.
Haven't spoken to anyone who thinks we'll lose...or win :-\....more of "ah, it's going to be fierce difficult but we'll see" answer.
Quote from: Farrandeelin on August 16, 2015, 08:52:14 AM
It has the 'makings' of a good game. Then again, so did the league game. I must be one of the few Mayo fans who think we will lose.
P.S. moy, where were Cairde tickets for the Donegal game? I'm using bring a friend, and am in Upper Cusack for this game.
Have to say i agree with you Farr. I do think Dublin will win. Home venue is a huge advantage and Dublin won't be as complacent as they were in last years AI semi verses Donegal. Most Mayo people are reading to much into our semi final performance against Donegal. It must be remembered that Donegal went 28 minutes against an ordinary Galway side without scoring. Donegal have had a hard road with games, injuries and don't have a big squad to deal with it. Don't get me wrong Donegal are a decent side. Just met a team different to the team that Tyrone met in the first round of the Ulster Championship (similar to 2013 gig).
Quote from: moysider on August 16, 2015, 12:51:34 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 15, 2015, 08:27:42 PM
Just wondering is this game sold out now? I presume Dublin and Mayo have the highest allocation of season tickets and all the crappy tickets on the edges of the Hogan, Cusack and Davin upper and lower look to have been cleared on Tickets.ie. I presume the Clubs get what is left?
Haven t got a decent ticket yet from my Cairde package for the last games. Ye'd want to be vertigo free for sure.
At least ye get in though!d
But why the mad rush now? CP was half full for Leinster heavy-weights like Dublin, Kildare and Meath. As bad for double header Q-finals? The hurling last weekend was watery enough too. What's the rush now?
It's going to be a sell-out. It's all those Mayo fans who want to be there when it finally happens. Back to the future - 2013 ;)
The football championship commentary, especially but not only the media, is bogged down in talk about how bad it is and how all matches are now one-sided games etc. This is despite fixtures like the Munster Final and many of the Ulster games being very competitive. Mayo v Galway in Salthill was competitive, but that is all ignored.
The narrow thinking behind the above has it that there are only 3, and at most 5, teams that matter. From now on these teams have to meet and so hence even the critics of the Championship have to admit things are now getting interesting. Also, Dublin are obviously the best supported team in the country and Mayo would be probably in the top 3 or 4 supported counties. Kerry don't travel for semi-finals so the other semi won't sell out, but I'd expect Tyrone supporters to travel in big numbers.
I think it is great to see Croke Park sold out for a semi-final! And as for the Dubs home advantage, we are unbeaten in Croke Park semi-finals since 2011, and unbeaten by the Dubs in semi-finals since the replay in 1985. There is nowhere else I would want Mayo playing this match.
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 16, 2015, 09:14:34 AM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on August 16, 2015, 08:52:14 AM
It has the 'makings' of a good game. Then again, so did the league game. I must be one of the few Mayo fans who think we will lose.
P.S. moy, where were Cairde tickets for the Donegal game? I'm using bring a friend, and am in Upper Cusack for this game.
Have to say i agree with you Farr. I do think Dublin will win. Home venue is a huge advantage and Dublin won't be as complacent as they were in last years AI semi verses Donegal. Most Mayo people are reading to much into our semi final performance against Donegal. It must be remembered that Donegal went 28 minutes against an ordinary Galway side without scoring. Donegal have had a hard road with games, injuries and don't have a big squad to deal with it. Don't get me wrong Donegal are a decent side. Just met a team different to the team that Tyrone met in the first round of the Ulster Championship (similar to 2013 gig).
Maybe it should be moved to Limerick.
Quote from: Farrandeelin on August 16, 2015, 08:52:14 AM
It has the 'makings' of a good game. Then again, so did the league game. I must be one of the few Mayo fans who think we will lose.
P.S. moy, where were Cairde tickets for the Donegal game? I'm using bring a friend, and am in Upper Cusack for this game.
I was away Farr but brother used ticket. Said it was excellent middle lower Cusack.
For what it's worth I don't think Mayo will win either.
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on August 16, 2015, 11:52:35 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 16, 2015, 09:14:34 AM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on August 16, 2015, 08:52:14 AM
It has the 'makings' of a good game. Then again, so did the league game. I must be one of the few Mayo fans who think we will lose.
P.S. moy, where were Cairde tickets for the Donegal game? I'm using bring a friend, and am in Upper Cusack for this game.
Have to say i agree with you Farr. I do think Dublin will win. Home venue is a huge advantage and Dublin won't be as complacent as they were in last years AI semi verses Donegal. Most Mayo people are reading to much into our semi final performance against Donegal. It must be remembered that Donegal went 28 minutes against an ordinary Galway side without scoring. Donegal have had a hard road with games, injuries and don't have a big squad to deal with it. Don't get me wrong Donegal are a decent side. Just met a team different to the team that Tyrone met in the first round of the Ulster Championship (similar to 2013 gig).
Maybe it should be moved to Limerick.
Why move it to Limerick? Sure we voiced our objections at an AI semi final being played there. I have no problem with Croke Park as a venue! There is no better venue for a sell out AI semi final. And if Mayo are good enough they should over come this slight disadvantage. Wonder how ye're crowd would like to play a replay in Limerick should ye draw with Kerry in the Semi?
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 16, 2015, 12:36:03 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on August 16, 2015, 11:52:35 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 16, 2015, 09:14:34 AM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on August 16, 2015, 08:52:14 AM
It has the 'makings' of a good game. Then again, so did the league game. I must be one of the few Mayo fans who think we will lose.
P.S. moy, where were Cairde tickets for the Donegal game? I'm using bring a friend, and am in Upper Cusack for this game.
Have to say i agree with you Farr. I do think Dublin will win. Home venue is a huge advantage and Dublin won't be as complacent as they were in last years AI semi verses Donegal. Most Mayo people are reading to much into our semi final performance against Donegal. It must be remembered that Donegal went 28 minutes against an ordinary Galway side without scoring. Donegal have had a hard road with games, injuries and don't have a big squad to deal with it. Don't get me wrong Donegal are a decent side. Just met a team different to the team that Tyrone met in the first round of the Ulster Championship (similar to 2013 gig).
Maybe it should be moved to Limerick.
You're joking right?
Why move it to Limerick? Sure we voiced our objections at an AI semi final being played there. I have no problem with Croke Park as a venue! There is no better venue for a sell out AI semi final. And if Mayo are good enough they should over come this slight disadvantage. Wonder how ye're crowd would like to play a replay in Limerick should ye draw with Kerry in the Semi?
I wouldn't even call it that, Mayo are well used to Croker and its the only place big enough to hold it, looking like a sell out
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 16, 2015, 09:14:34 AM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on August 16, 2015, 08:52:14 AM
It has the 'makings' of a good game. Then again, so did the league game. I must be one of the few Mayo fans who think we will lose.
P.S. moy, where were Cairde tickets for the Donegal game? I'm using bring a friend, and am in Upper Cusack for this game.
Have to say i agree with you Farr. I do think Dublin will win. Home venue is a huge advantage and Dublin won't be as complacent as they were in last years AI semi verses Donegal. Most Mayo people are reading to much into our semi final performance against Donegal. It must be remembered that Donegal went 28 minutes against an ordinary Galway side without scoring. Donegal have had a hard road with games, injuries and don't have a big squad to deal with it. Don't get me wrong Donegal are a decent side. Just met a team different to the team that Tyrone met in the first round of the Ulster Championship (similar to 2013 gig).
Why? Its not as if they're allocated more tickets (at least I Dont think they are) and not as if Mayo aren't used to Croker or haven't played there much
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 16, 2015, 09:14:34 AM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on August 16, 2015, 08:52:14 AM
It has the 'makings' of a good game. Then again, so did the league game. I must be one of the few Mayo fans who think we will lose.
P.S. moy, where were Cairde tickets for the Donegal game? I'm using bring a friend, and am in Upper Cusack for this game.
Have to say i agree with you Farr. I do think Dublin will win. Home venue is a huge advantage and Dublin won't be as complacent as they were in last years AI semi verses Donegal. Most Mayo people are reading to much into our semi final performance against Donegal. It must be remembered that Donegal went 28 minutes against an ordinary Galway side without scoring. Donegal have had a hard road with games, injuries and don't have a big squad to deal with it. Don't get me wrong Donegal are a decent side. Just met a team different to the team that Tyrone met in the first round of the Ulster Championship (similar to 2013 gig).
Home advantage- Cp is a neutral venue
The Reeks on Croagh Patrick was cancelled this year. The stars are aligning in Mayo's favour
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on August 16, 2015, 11:52:35 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 16, 2015, 09:14:34 AM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on August 16, 2015, 08:52:14 AM
It has the 'makings' of a good game. Then again, so did the league game. I must be one of the few Mayo fans who think we will lose.
P.S. moy, where were Cairde tickets for the Donegal game? I'm using bring a friend, and am in Upper Cusack for this game.
Have to say i agree with you Farr. I do think Dublin will win. Home venue is a huge advantage and Dublin won't be as complacent as they were in last years AI semi verses Donegal. Most Mayo people are reading to much into our semi final performance against Donegal. It must be remembered that Donegal went 28 minutes against an ordinary Galway side without scoring. Donegal have had a hard road with games, injuries and don't have a big squad to deal with it. Don't get me wrong Donegal are a decent side. Just met a team different to the team that Tyrone met in the first round of the Ulster Championship (similar to 2013 gig).
Maybe it should be moved to Limerick.
Maybe it should indeed.
I've no problems with Limerick or anywhere else.
I had plenty of same when the semi final replay was moved to Limerick, not because of the venue but the fact that it was of lesser importance than the other semi.
The one date on which the replay could have been staged in Croker was held in reserve in case Donegal and Dublin needed a replay.
That's not parity of esteem by any reckoning.
Quote from: INDIANA on August 16, 2015, 01:21:30 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 16, 2015, 09:14:34 AM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on August 16, 2015, 08:52:14 AM
It has the 'makings' of a good game. Then again, so did the league game. I must be one of the few Mayo fans who think we will lose.
P.S. moy, where were Cairde tickets for the Donegal game? I'm using bring a friend, and am in Upper Cusack for this game.
Have to say i agree with you Farr. I do think Dublin will win. Home venue is a huge advantage and Dublin won't be as complacent as they were in last years AI semi verses Donegal. Most Mayo people are reading to much into our semi final performance against Donegal. It must be remembered that Donegal went 28 minutes against an ordinary Galway side without scoring. Donegal have had a hard road with games, injuries and don't have a big squad to deal with it. Don't get me wrong Donegal are a decent side. Just met a team different to the team that Tyrone met in the first round of the Ulster Championship (similar to 2013 gig).
Home advantage- Cp is a neutral venue
The Reeks on Croagh Patrick was cancelled this year. The stars are aligning in Mayo's favour
Arra, is it f**k! ;D
(With due acknowledgements to Michael Bailey.)
What about the Hill and the long-standing tradition that the Dubs had exclusive rights to use that end for their warm-up.
Technically, that's not the way it's supposed to be any more but in practice it still is.
Quote from: Lar Naparka on August 16, 2015, 01:35:17 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on August 16, 2015, 01:21:30 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 16, 2015, 09:14:34 AM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on August 16, 2015, 08:52:14 AM
It has the 'makings' of a good game. Then again, so did the league game. I must be one of the few Mayo fans who think we will lose.
P.S. moy, where were Cairde tickets for the Donegal game? I'm using bring a friend, and am in Upper Cusack for this game.
Have to say i agree with you Farr. I do think Dublin will win. Home venue is a huge advantage and Dublin won't be as complacent as they were in last years AI semi verses Donegal. Most Mayo people are reading to much into our semi final performance against Donegal. It must be remembered that Donegal went 28 minutes against an ordinary Galway side without scoring. Donegal have had a hard road with games, injuries and don't have a big squad to deal with it. Don't get me wrong Donegal are a decent side. Just met a team different to the team that Tyrone met in the first round of the Ulster Championship (similar to 2013 gig).
Home advantage- Cp is a neutral venue
The Reeks on Croagh Patrick was cancelled this year. The stars are aligning in Mayo's favour
Arra, is it f**k! ;D
(With due acknowledgements to Michael Bailey.)
What about the Hill and the long-standing tradition that the Dubs had exclusive rights to use that end for their warm-up.
Technically, that's not the way it's supposed to be any more but in practice it still is.
Far better crack when other fans are on the Hill to be honest. The Hill 16 only idea is only promoted by a small minority most of whom have no club affiliation and still think Ciaran Whelan plays for Dublin
Quote from: INDIANA on August 16, 2015, 01:21:30 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 16, 2015, 09:14:34 AM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on August 16, 2015, 08:52:14 AM
It has the 'makings' of a good game. Then again, so did the league game. I must be one of the few Mayo fans who think we will lose.
P.S. moy, where were Cairde tickets for the Donegal game? I'm using bring a friend, and am in Upper Cusack for this game.
Have to say i agree with you Farr. I do think Dublin will win. Home venue is a huge advantage and Dublin won't be as complacent as they were in last years AI semi verses Donegal. Most Mayo people are reading to much into our semi final performance against Donegal. It must be remembered that Donegal went 28 minutes against an ordinary Galway side without scoring. Donegal have had a hard road with games, injuries and don't have a big squad to deal with it. Don't get me wrong Donegal are a decent side. Just met a team different to the team that Tyrone met in the first round of the Ulster Championship (similar to 2013 gig).
Home advantage- Cp is a neutral venue
The Reeks on Croagh Patrick was cancelled this year. The stars are aligning in Mayo's favour
If Croke Park is a neutral venue, Where do Dublin play their home games in the League and Championship? Look, I want to play us to play there. And playing there against the Dubs is a bonus. But for any Dub to call this a neutral venue they need to get the Blinkers off.
Quote from: INDIANA on August 16, 2015, 01:48:57 PM
Quote from: Lar Naparka on August 16, 2015, 01:35:17 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on August 16, 2015, 01:21:30 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 16, 2015, 09:14:34 AM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on August 16, 2015, 08:52:14 AM
It has the 'makings' of a good game. Then again, so did the league game. I must be one of the few Mayo fans who think we will lose.
P.S. moy, where were Cairde tickets for the Donegal game? I'm using bring a friend, and am in Upper Cusack for this game.
Have to say i agree with you Farr. I do think Dublin will win. Home venue is a huge advantage and Dublin won't be as complacent as they were in last years AI semi verses Donegal. Most Mayo people are reading to much into our semi final performance against Donegal. It must be remembered that Donegal went 28 minutes against an ordinary Galway side without scoring. Donegal have had a hard road with games, injuries and don't have a big squad to deal with it. Don't get me wrong Donegal are a decent side. Just met a team different to the team that Tyrone met in the first round of the Ulster Championship (similar to 2013 gig).
Home advantage- Cp is a neutral venue
The Reeks on Croagh Patrick was cancelled this year. The stars are aligning in Mayo's favour
Arra, is it f**k! ;D
(With due acknowledgements to Michael Bailey.)
What about the Hill and the long-standing tradition that the Dubs had exclusive rights to use that end for their warm-up.
Technically, that's not the way it's supposed to be any more but in practice it still is.
Far better crack when other fans are on the Hill to be honest. The Hill 16 only idea is only promoted by a small minority most of whom have no club affiliation and still think Ciaran Whelan plays for Dublin
Pity your Dublin team of '84 weren't of a similar mindset, instead of (successfully) muscling our poor lads out of it during the warm-up at the Hill 16 end (before we knew how to win big games of course ;) ). :)
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 16, 2015, 01:55:51 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on August 16, 2015, 01:21:30 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 16, 2015, 09:14:34 AM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on August 16, 2015, 08:52:14 AM
It has the 'makings' of a good game. Then again, so did the league game. I must be one of the few Mayo fans who think we will lose.
P.S. moy, where were Cairde tickets for the Donegal game? I'm using bring a friend, and am in Upper Cusack for this game.
Have to say i agree with you Farr. I do think Dublin will win. Home venue is a huge advantage and Dublin won't be as complacent as they were in last years AI semi verses Donegal. Most Mayo people are reading to much into our semi final performance against Donegal. It must be remembered that Donegal went 28 minutes against an ordinary Galway side without scoring. Donegal have had a hard road with games, injuries and don't have a big squad to deal with it. Don't get me wrong Donegal are a decent side. Just met a team different to the team that Tyrone met in the first round of the Ulster Championship (similar to 2013 gig).
Home advantage- Cp is a neutral venue
The Reeks on Croagh Patrick was cancelled this year. The stars are aligning in Mayo's favour
If Croke Park is a neutral venue, Where do Dublin play their home games in the League and Championship? Look, I want to play us to play there. And playing there against the Dubs is a bonus. But for any Dub to call this a neutral venue they need to get the Blinkers off.
The GAA dictate the venue. You need to take your angst up with them. Dublin posters have explained this before- we'd prefer to play our league games and leinster championship games elsewhere but we aren't allowed
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Quote from: From the Bunker on August 16, 2015, 01:55:51 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on August 16, 2015, 01:21:30 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 16, 2015, 09:14:34 AM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on August 16, 2015, 08:52:14 AM
It has the 'makings' of a good game. Then again, so did the league game. I must be one of the few Mayo fans who think we will lose.
P.S. moy, where were Cairde tickets for the Donegal game? I'm using bring a friend, and am in Upper Cusack for this game.
Have to say i agree with you Farr. I do think Dublin will win. Home venue is a huge advantage and Dublin won't be as complacent as they were in last years AI semi verses Donegal. Most Mayo people are reading to much into our semi final performance against Donegal. It must be remembered that Donegal went 28 minutes against an ordinary Galway side without scoring. Donegal have had a hard road with games, injuries and don't have a big squad to deal with it. Don't get me wrong Donegal are a decent side. Just met a team different to the team that Tyrone met in the first round of the Ulster Championship (similar to 2013 gig).
Home advantage- Cp is a neutral venue
The Reeks on Croagh Patrick was cancelled this year. The stars are aligning in Mayo's favour
If Croke Park is a neutral venue, Where do Dublin play their home games in the League and Championship? Look, I want to play us to play there. And playing there against the Dubs is a bonus. But for any Dub to call this a neutral venue they need to get the Blinkers off.
The GAA dictate the venue. You need to take your angst up with them. Dublin posters have explained this before- we'd prefer to play our league games and leinster championship games elsewhere but we aren't allowed
I have no argument with Dublin playing their games in Croker for the league. My only problem is them getting earlier round games in the Leinster Championship. I have no problem with Leinster final, Quarter final, semi final and final being in Croker. That's where they should be played. I know Dublin have no say in this and in fairness they are not going to protest against such an advantage. Look it is an advantage. A small one against a team with a bit more Croke park experience like Mayo, but still an advantage. So please don't say it's not a home game. Because it is, and that's just the way things are set up! It's not a dig at Dublin, just stating the obvious.
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 16, 2015, 04:52:02 PM
I have no argument with Dublin playing their games in Croker for the league. My only problem is them getting earlier round games in the Leinster Championship. I have no problem with Leinster final, Quarter final, semi final and final being in Croker. That's where they should be played. I know Dublin have no say in this and in fairness they are not going to protest against such an advantage. Look it is an advantage. A small one against a team with a bit more Croke park experience like Mayo, but still an advantage. So please don't say it's not a home game. Because it is, and that's just the way things are set up! It's not a dig at Dublin, just stating the obvious.
Don't let's raise that old chestnut again. Dublin have been winning All Irelands for well over a century and I would guess that most of their games over that period were played outside Dublin. For instance Dublin were Leinster champions between 1974 and 1979 and most of their games were played outside Dublin so there is absolutely no evidence to suggest Dublin's opponents would be any more successful if they played the Dubs out of Croker.
It seems to me that raising the argument that Dublin have some sort of unfair advantage playing in Croker is simply making excuses in advance for what might happen in the game. It's not a great frame of mind to have going into a game with the Mighty Dubs.
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It has the 'makings' of a good game. Then again, so did the league game. I must be one of the few Mayo fans who think we will lose.
P.S. moy, where were Cairde tickets for the Donegal game? I'm using bring a friend, and am in Upper Cusack for this game.
Have to say i agree with you Farr. I do think Dublin will win. Home venue is a huge advantage and Dublin won't be as complacent as they were in last years AI semi verses Donegal. Most Mayo people are reading to much into our semi final performance against Donegal. It must be remembered that Donegal went 28 minutes against an ordinary Galway side without scoring. Donegal have had a hard road with games, injuries and don't have a big squad to deal with it. Don't get me wrong Donegal are a decent side. Just met a team different to the team that Tyrone met in the first round of the Ulster Championship (similar to 2013 gig).
Maybe it should be moved to Limerick.
Why move it to Limerick? Sure we voiced our objections at an AI semi final being played there. I have no problem with Croke Park as a venue! There is no better venue for a sell out AI semi final. And if Mayo are good enough they should over come this slight disadvantage. Wonder how ye're crowd would like to play a replay in Limerick should ye draw with Kerry in the Semi?
Well make your mind up! Mayo threw their toys out of the pram last year about having to play in Limerick and now you're saying that playing in Croke Park is an advantage to Dublin. It's an advantage to Mayo too, their style of football is much more suited to Croke Park where the pitch plays much quicker and space seems to be easier to find.
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on August 16, 2015, 08:24:42 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 16, 2015, 04:52:02 PM
I have no argument with Dublin playing their games in Croker for the league. My only problem is them getting earlier round games in the Leinster Championship. I have no problem with Leinster final, Quarter final, semi final and final being in Croker. That's where they should be played. I know Dublin have no say in this and in fairness they are not going to protest against such an advantage. Look it is an advantage. A small one against a team with a bit more Croke park experience like Mayo, but still an advantage. So please don't say it's not a home game. Because it is, and that's just the way things are set up! It's not a dig at Dublin, just stating the obvious.
Don't let's raise that old chestnut again. Dublin have been winning All Irelands for well over a century and I would guess that most of their games over that period were played outside Dublin. For instance Dublin were Leinster champions between 1974 and 1979 and most of their games were played outside Dublin so there is absolutely no evidence to suggest Dublin's opponents would be any more successful if they played the Dubs out of Croker.
It seems to me that raising the argument that Dublin have some sort of unfair advantage playing in Croker is simply making excuses in advance for what might happen in the game. It's not a great frame of mind to have going into a game with the Mighty Dubs.
Look you have your mind made up that playing at home offers no advantage. Fair enough! As I said earlier, Leinster Boards and the GAA have set ye up that way and ye would be fools to object to such an arrangement. Look, in Mayo case the advantage will be smaller. But there is an advantage. When Dublin were an average side in the early 2000's this advantage did not matter because their limits could not take advantage of it. Presently because they are a top side this advantage is noticeable.
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on August 16, 2015, 08:24:42 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 16, 2015, 04:52:02 PM
I have no argument with Dublin playing their games in Croker for the league. My only problem is them getting earlier round games in the Leinster Championship. I have no problem with Leinster final, Quarter final, semi final and final being in Croker. That's where they should be played. I know Dublin have no say in this and in fairness they are not going to protest against such an advantage. Look it is an advantage. A small one against a team with a bit more Croke park experience like Mayo, but still an advantage. So please don't say it's not a home game. Because it is, and that's just the way things are set up! It's not a dig at Dublin, just stating the obvious.
Don't let's raise that old chestnut again. Dublin have been winning All Irelands for well over a century and I would guess that most of their games over that period were played outside Dublin. For instance Dublin were Leinster champions between 1974 and 1979 and most of their games were played outside Dublin so there is absolutely no evidence to suggest Dublin's opponents would be any more successful if they played the Dubs out of Croker.
It seems to me that raising the argument that Dublin have some sort of unfair advantage playing in Croker is simply making excuses in advance for what might happen in the game. It's not a great frame of mind to have going into a game with the Mighty Dubs.
Nonsense of the highest order. There is a difference between reasons and excuses as I ve pointed out before.
In spite of the bravado that some other Mayo posters might present the 'home' advantage for the Dubs is massive. You only have to look at other comparable sports to see the advantage. In European rugby Munster and Leinster would be looking for a home game for the knockout stages. Did either win the thing by going away for quarters and semis? It's a huge advantage and a bridge too far because we are not that much better than Dublin to make that up.
The other thing is the shafting we usually get at this stage. I dunno who the ref will be but I suspect he ll be a homer as bad as Cormac Reilly was last year. In 06 we were the better side and managed to prevail in spite of Whelan taking McGarrity out from 'the neck down' and dodging around with blood subs after. I have no faith in the set up tbh.
Hate to ruin it for you Moy ..,but isn't Ref good oul Dublin Joe himself.
Quote from: moysider on August 16, 2015, 11:48:58 PM
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on August 16, 2015, 08:24:42 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 16, 2015, 04:52:02 PM
I have no argument with Dublin playing their games in Croker for the league. My only problem is them getting earlier round games in the Leinster Championship. I have no problem with Leinster final, Quarter final, semi final and final being in Croker. That's where they should be played. I know Dublin have no say in this and in fairness they are not going to protest against such an advantage. Look it is an advantage. A small one against a team with a bit more Croke park experience like Mayo, but still an advantage. So please don't say it's not a home game. Because it is, and that's just the way things are set up! It's not a dig at Dublin, just stating the obvious.
Don't let's raise that old chestnut again. Dublin have been winning All Irelands for well over a century and I would guess that most of their games over that period were played outside Dublin. For instance Dublin were Leinster champions between 1974 and 1979 and most of their games were played outside Dublin so there is absolutely no evidence to suggest Dublin's opponents would be any more successful if they played the Dubs out of Croker.
It seems to me that raising the argument that Dublin have some sort of unfair advantage playing in Croker is simply making excuses in advance for what might happen in the game. It's not a great frame of mind to have going into a game with the Mighty Dubs.
Nonsense of the highest order. There is a difference between reasons and excuses as I ve pointed out before.
In spite of the bravado that some other Mayo posters might present the 'home' advantage for the Dubs is massive. You only have to look at other comparable sports to see the advantage. In European rugby Munster and Leinster would be looking for a home game for the knockout stages. Did either win the thing by going away for quarters and semis? It's a huge advantage and a bridge too far because we are not that much better than Dublin to make that up.
The other thing is the shafting we usually get at this stage. I dunno who the ref will be but I suspect he ll be a homer as bad as Cormac Reilly was last year. In 06 we were the better side and managed to prevail in spite of Whelan taking McGarrity out from 'the neck down' and dodging around with blood subs after. I have no faith in the set up tbh.
Now that's really making excuses in advance.
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Quote from: From the Bunker on August 16, 2015, 04:52:02 PM
I have no argument with Dublin playing their games in Croker for the league. My only problem is them getting earlier round games in the Leinster Championship. I have no problem with Leinster final, Quarter final, semi final and final being in Croker. That's where they should be played. I know Dublin have no say in this and in fairness they are not going to protest against such an advantage. Look it is an advantage. A small one against a team with a bit more Croke park experience like Mayo, but still an advantage. So please don't say it's not a home game. Because it is, and that's just the way things are set up! It's not a dig at Dublin, just stating the obvious.
Joe Mc Quillan gave you 50% more frees then he gave us in the 2013 final and you still couldn't beat us. Statistics as always cut through the bullshit. It's not our fault your management couldn't see we only had 13 players for the last 10 minutes.......
Why don't you suck it up and stop making excuses for yourself. You're either good enough to beat us or you're not. I'll be the first to congratulate you if you do beat us but let's leave the excuses aside.
Don't let's raise that old chestnut again. Dublin have been winning All Irelands for well over a century and I would guess that most of their games over that period were played outside Dublin. For instance Dublin were Leinster champions between 1974 and 1979 and most of their games were played outside Dublin so there is absolutely no evidence to suggest Dublin's opponents would be any more successful if they played the Dubs out of Croker.
It seems to me that raising the argument that Dublin have some sort of unfair advantage playing in Croker is simply making excuses in advance for what might happen in the game. It's not a great frame of mind to have going into a game with the Mighty Dubs.
Nonsense of the highest order. There is a difference between reasons and excuses as I ve pointed out before.
In spite of the bravado that some other Mayo posters might present the 'home' advantage for the Dubs is massive. You only have to look at other comparable sports to see the advantage. In European rugby Munster and Leinster would be looking for a home game for the knockout stages. Did either win the thing by going away for quarters and semis? It's a huge advantage and a bridge too far because we are not that much better than Dublin to make that up.
The other thing is the shafting we usually get at this stage. I dunno who the ref will be but I suspect he ll be a homer as bad as Cormac Reilly was last year. In 06 we were the better side and managed to prevail in spite of Whelan taking McGarrity out from 'the neck down' and dodging around with blood subs after. I have no faith in the set up tbh.
Joe Mc Quillan gave you 50% more frees then he gave us in the 2013 final and you still couldn't beat us. It's not our fault your management couldn't see we only had 13 players for the last 10 minutes.......
You're either good enough to beat us or you're not. I'll be the first to congratulate you if you do beat us but let's leave the excuses aside.
Mayo have been making excuses for 50 years now.
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Quote from: From the Bunker on August 16, 2015, 04:52:02 PM
I have no argument with Dublin playing their games in Croker for the league. My only problem is them getting earlier round games in the Leinster Championship. I have no problem with Leinster final, Quarter final, semi final and final being in Croker. That's where they should be played. I know Dublin have no say in this and in fairness they are not going to protest against such an advantage. Look it is an advantage. A small one against a team with a bit more Croke park experience like Mayo, but still an advantage. So please don't say it's not a home game. Because it is, and that's just the way things are set up! It's not a dig at Dublin, just stating the obvious.
Don't let's raise that old chestnut again. Dublin have been winning All Irelands for well over a century and I would guess that most of their games over that period were played outside Dublin. For instance Dublin were Leinster champions between 1974 and 1979 and most of their games were played outside Dublin so there is absolutely no evidence to suggest Dublin's opponents would be any more successful if they played the Dubs out of Croker.
It seems to me that raising the argument that Dublin have some sort of unfair advantage playing in Croker is simply making excuses in advance for what might happen in the game. It's not a great frame of mind to have going into a game with the Mighty Dubs.
Nonsense of the highest order. There is a difference between reasons and excuses as I ve pointed out before.
In spite of the bravado that some other Mayo posters might present the 'home' advantage for the Dubs is massive. You only have to look at other comparable sports to see the advantage. In European rugby Munster and Leinster would be looking for a home game for the knockout stages. Did either win the thing by going away for quarters and semis? It's a huge advantage and a bridge too far because we are not that much better than Dublin to make that up.
The other thing is the shafting we usually get at this stage. I dunno who the ref will be but I suspect he ll be a homer as bad as Cormac Reilly was last year. In 06 we were the better side and managed to prevail in spite of Whelan taking McGarrity out from 'the neck down' and dodging around with blood subs after. I have no faith in the set up tbh.
Now that's really making excuses in advance.
That statement alone suggests that you expect to win! Not so sure you would be as bullish if it were not for the obvious advantages that ye are going to have. Dublin in CP is like a spider in charge of its web. Ffs pillar made taking ownership of the place a motivational tool for the team. It's the most lopsided advantage in any serious sport I know. If Ireland played all games only in the Aviva or England played all their games in Twickenham, it would be an advantage, no? Or Manchester United play all games at home! A joke! But hey, enjoy the wins. Ye're codding yerselves that it's not a massive advantage.
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I have no argument with Dublin playing their games in Croker for the league. My only problem is them getting earlier round games in the Leinster Championship. I have no problem with Leinster final, Quarter final, semi final and final being in Croker. That's where they should be played. I know Dublin have no say in this and in fairness they are not going to protest against such an advantage. Look it is an advantage. A small one against a team with a bit more Croke park experience like Mayo, but still an advantage. So please don't say it's not a home game. Because it is, and that's just the way things are set up! It's not a dig at Dublin, just stating the obvious.
Joe Mc Quillan gave you 50% more frees then he gave us in the 2013 final and you still couldn't beat us. Statistics as always cut through the bullshit. It's not our fault your management couldn't see we only had 13 players for the last 10 minutes.......
Why don't you suck it up and stop making excuses for yourself. You're either good enough to beat us or you're not. I'll be the first to congratulate you if you do beat us but let's leave the excuses aside.
Don't let's raise that old chestnut again. Dublin have been winning All Irelands for well over a century and I would guess that most of their games over that period were played outside Dublin. For instance Dublin were Leinster champions between 1974 and 1979 and most of their games were played outside Dublin so there is absolutely no evidence to suggest Dublin's opponents would be any more successful if they played the Dubs out of Croker.
It seems to me that raising the argument that Dublin have some sort of unfair advantage playing in Croker is simply making excuses in advance for what might happen in the game. It's not a great frame of mind to have going into a game with the Mighty Dubs.
Nonsense of the highest order. There is a difference between reasons and excuses as I ve pointed out before.
In spite of the bravado that some other Mayo posters might present the 'home' advantage for the Dubs is massive. You only have to look at other comparable sports to see the advantage. In European rugby Munster and Leinster would be looking for a home game for the knockout stages. Did either win the thing by going away for quarters and semis? It's a huge advantage and a bridge too far because we are not that much better than Dublin to make that up.
The other thing is the shafting we usually get at this stage. I dunno who the ref will be but I suspect he ll be a homer as bad as Cormac Reilly was last year. In 06 we were the better side and managed to prevail in spite of Whelan taking McGarrity out from 'the neck down' and dodging around with blood subs after. I have no faith in the set up tbh.
Joe Mc Quillan gave you 50% more frees then he gave us in the 2013 final and you still couldn't beat us. It's not our fault your management couldn't see we only had 13 players for the last 10 minutes.......
You're either good enough to beat us or you're not. I'll be the first to congratulate you if you do beat us but let's leave the excuses aside.
Mayo have been making excuses for 50 years now.
Sheesh. Don t give me the frees stats! Been there. Joe and his mates know how to get a result.
50% more frees because ye fouled 50% more perhaps?
As well as that most 'good' refs know exactly when and where to give frees ::) a free close to your own goal when you want to counter fast is an advantage to the opposition. A few softies for likes of Bernard or Gooch close to opposition goal is what a 'good ref is talking about. I could write a book about it, and not just talking about CP football. Happens every level and with kids too unfortunately. Very easy to rig a game as Cormac Reilly showed last year in Limerick.
Quote from: Rossfan on August 17, 2015, 12:03:50 AM
Hate to ruin it for you Moy ..,but isn't Ref good oul Dublin Joe himself.
He's as 'good' as anybody else ::) Expect him to give us a load of frees in our own half of the pitch so the 'statisticians' can spin it that he really favoured us.
Seriously, lads. Do you really believe this stuff? That referees go out with plans to screw teams, even to such Machiavellian extents as to play the statistics by giving teams frees in their own half so that it looks legit? Who organises these conspiracies? Where are the brown envelopes handed over, now that Conways is closed? Seriously like?
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Quote from: From the Bunker on August 16, 2015, 04:52:02 PM
I have no argument with Dublin playing their games in Croker for the league. My only problem is them getting earlier round games in the Leinster Championship. I have no problem with Leinster final, Quarter final, semi final and final being in Croker. That's where they should be played. I know Dublin have no say in this and in fairness they are not going to protest against such an advantage. Look it is an advantage. A small one against a team with a bit more Croke park experience like Mayo, but still an advantage. So please don't say it's not a home game. Because it is, and that's just the way things are set up! It's not a dig at Dublin, just stating the obvious.
Joe Mc Quillan gave you 50% more frees then he gave us in the 2013 final and you still couldn't beat us. Statistics as always cut through the bullshit. It's not our fault your management couldn't see we only had 13 players for the last 10 minutes.......
Why don't you suck it up and stop making excuses for yourself. You're either good enough to beat us or you're not. I'll be the first to congratulate you if you do beat us but let's leave the excuses aside.
Don't let's raise that old chestnut again. Dublin have been winning All Irelands for well over a century and I would guess that most of their games over that period were played outside Dublin. For instance Dublin were Leinster champions between 1974 and 1979 and most of their games were played outside Dublin so there is absolutely no evidence to suggest Dublin's opponents would be any more successful if they played the Dubs out of Croker.
It seems to me that raising the argument that Dublin have some sort of unfair advantage playing in Croker is simply making excuses in advance for what might happen in the game. It's not a great frame of mind to have going into a game with the Mighty Dubs.
Nonsense of the highest order. There is a difference between reasons and excuses as I ve pointed out before.
In spite of the bravado that some other Mayo posters might present the 'home' advantage for the Dubs is massive. You only have to look at other comparable sports to see the advantage. In European rugby Munster and Leinster would be looking for a home game for the knockout stages. Did either win the thing by going away for quarters and semis? It's a huge advantage and a bridge too far because we are not that much better than Dublin to make that up.
The other thing is the shafting we usually get at this stage. I dunno who the ref will be but I suspect he ll be a homer as bad as Cormac Reilly was last year. In 06 we were the better side and managed to prevail in spite of Whelan taking McGarrity out from 'the neck down' and dodging around with blood subs after. I have no faith in the set up tbh.
Joe Mc Quillan gave you 50% more frees then he gave us in the 2013 final and you still couldn't beat us. It's not our fault your management couldn't see we only had 13 players for the last 10 minutes.......
You're either good enough to beat us or you're not. I'll be the first to congratulate you if you do beat us but let's leave the excuses aside.
Mayo have been making excuses for 50 years now.
Sheesh. Don t give me the frees stats! Been there. Joe and his mates know how to get a result.
50% more frees because ye fouled 50% more perhaps?
As well as that most 'good' refs know exactly when and where to give frees ::) a free close to your own goal when you want to counter fast is an advantage to the opposition. A few softies for likes of Bernard or Gooch close to opposition goal is what a 'good ref is talking about. I could write a book about it, and not just talking about CP football. Happens every level and with kids too unfortunately. Very easy to rig a game as Cormac Reilly showed last year in Limerick.
Moy, you are over stepping the mark there. Dublin beat us fair and square in 2013. Referee had little or nothing to do with it. I left that game disappointed but in no way bitter. I was more angry at COC kicking a point at the end. One more play or not, goal should have been the only option and i felt he was trying to pass the book to McQ. To compare that game to the Cormac Reilly farce last year is stretching the paranoia a bit too far. Reilly did us on everything from us getting third man tackled, to not sending off players, to giving soft frees and penalties, to make us use a Blood sub as a sub, to player getting dragged and pulled with no free. It was the greatest free for all Kerry ever had in their Inter-county history. Of course Kerry were looked upon as cute hoars. But feck me it was easy to look cute when you main allay is the man supposed to be controlling the match.
Can someone please explain why Dublin's 'home advantage' is such a massive factor and how it is actually going to affect the final score? Where else are they supposed to hold it like? All Ireland Semi Finals are meant for Croker, no matter whos playing (especially when it will most likely sell out)
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I have no argument with Dublin playing their games in Croker for the league. My only problem is them getting earlier round games in the Leinster Championship. I have no problem with Leinster final, Quarter final, semi final and final being in Croker. That's where they should be played. I know Dublin have no say in this and in fairness they are not going to protest against such an advantage. Look it is an advantage. A small one against a team with a bit more Croke park experience like Mayo, but still an advantage. So please don't say it's not a home game. Because it is, and that's just the way things are set up! It's not a dig at Dublin, just stating the obvious.
Joe Mc Quillan gave you 50% more frees then he gave us in the 2013 final and you still couldn't beat us. Statistics as always cut through the bullshit. It's not our fault your management couldn't see we only had 13 players for the last 10 minutes.......
Why don't you suck it up and stop making excuses for yourself. You're either good enough to beat us or you're not. I'll be the first to congratulate you if you do beat us but let's leave the excuses aside.
Don't let's raise that old chestnut again. Dublin have been winning All Irelands for well over a century and I would guess that most of their games over that period were played outside Dublin. For instance Dublin were Leinster champions between 1974 and 1979 and most of their games were played outside Dublin so there is absolutely no evidence to suggest Dublin's opponents would be any more successful if they played the Dubs out of Croker.
It seems to me that raising the argument that Dublin have some sort of unfair advantage playing in Croker is simply making excuses in advance for what might happen in the game. It's not a great frame of mind to have going into a game with the Mighty Dubs.
Nonsense of the highest order. There is a difference between reasons and excuses as I ve pointed out before.
In spite of the bravado that some other Mayo posters might present the 'home' advantage for the Dubs is massive. You only have to look at other comparable sports to see the advantage. In European rugby Munster and Leinster would be looking for a home game for the knockout stages. Did either win the thing by going away for quarters and semis? It's a huge advantage and a bridge too far because we are not that much better than Dublin to make that up.
The other thing is the shafting we usually get at this stage. I dunno who the ref will be but I suspect he ll be a homer as bad as Cormac Reilly was last year. In 06 we were the better side and managed to prevail in spite of Whelan taking McGarrity out from 'the neck down' and dodging around with blood subs after. I have no faith in the set up tbh.
Joe Mc Quillan gave you 50% more frees then he gave us in the 2013 final and you still couldn't beat us. It's not our fault your management couldn't see we only had 13 players for the last 10 minutes.......
You're either good enough to beat us or you're not. I'll be the first to congratulate you if you do beat us but let's leave the excuses aside.
Mayo have been making excuses for 50 years now.
Sheesh. Don t give me the frees stats! Been there. Joe and his mates know how to get a result.
50% more frees because ye fouled 50% more perhaps?
As well as that most 'good' refs know exactly when and where to give frees ::) a free close to your own goal when you want to counter fast is an advantage to the opposition. A few softies for likes of Bernard or Gooch close to opposition goal is what a 'good ref is talking about. I could write a book about it, and not just talking about CP football. Happens every level and with kids too unfortunately. Very easy to rig a game as Cormac Reilly showed last year in Limerick.
Moy, you are over stepping the mark there. Dublin beat us fair and square in 2013. Referee had little or nothing to do with it. I left that game disappointed but in no way bitter. I was more angry at COC kicking a point at the end. One more play or not, goal should have been the only option and i felt he was trying to pass the book to McQ. To compare that game to the Cormac Reilly farce last year is stretching the paranoia a bit too far. Reilly did us on everything from us getting third man tackled, to not sending off players, to giving soft frees and penalties, to make us use a Blood sub as a sub, to player getting dragged and pulled with no free. It was the greatest free for all Kerry ever had in their Inter-county history. Of course Kerry were looked upon as cute hoars. But feck me it was easy to look cute when you main allay is the man supposed to be controlling the match.
So, you re agreeing with me fundamentally really.
Didn t mean to compare McQuillan with Reilly as such. Just saying free count does not always show what was going on. 50% more frees should indicate that one team committed 50% more frees. It would be interesting to see where those frees were awarded and who benefited from those frees being awarded. It's not rocket science for any coach to get players to foul!
Like if I was preparing a team to play Mayo I would expect them to 'stop' likes of Higgins, Boyle, Keegan's runs as early as possible where a free cant hurt and the defence can reorganise in the delay. Fellas can do that without fear of a card for a couple of offences and when they do take a card somebody else can do the same.
It's the soft inside stuff that likes of Kerry get on the other hand that annoys. The 'penalty' that O Donoghue was awarded in first Munster final not only had a bearing on Cork's year, management etc, It changed the whole complection of the championship.
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on August 17, 2015, 01:11:43 AM
Can someone please explain why Dublin's 'home advantage' is such a massive factor and how it is actually going to affect the final score? Where else are they supposed to hold it like? All Ireland Semi Finals are meant for Croker, no matter whos playing (especially when it will most likely sell out)
Is Thomond Park not an advantage for Muster against top teams?
Is the Aviva more likely to get a Leinster win v likes of Clermont than playing in France.
Look at any premiership team's points at home in a season in comparison to away points?
Where are the All Blacks more likely to beat SA (when they are on a par) Christchurch or Jo'burg?
Ffs if Manchester United could only play every European game in Old Trafford they would have won a bit more too.
It's a no-brainer.
The sickening thing is that we were sent to Limerick for a non-Dublin game. Limerick was a home game de facto for Kerry with a rig referee to boot.
Quote from: moysider on August 17, 2015, 01:46:04 AM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on August 17, 2015, 01:11:43 AM
Can someone please explain why Dublin's 'home advantage' is such a massive factor and how it is actually going to affect the final score? Where else are they supposed to hold it like? All Ireland Semi Finals are meant for Croker, no matter whos playing (especially when it will most likely sell out)
Is Thomond Park not an advantage for Muster against top teams?
Is the Aviva more likely to get a Leinster win v likes of Clermont than playing in France.
Look at any premiership team's points at home in a season in comparison to away points?
Where are the All Blacks more likely to beat SA (when they are on a par) Christchurch or Jo'burg?
Ffs if Manchester United could only play every European game in Old Trafford they would have won a bit more too.
It's a no-brainer.
The sickening thing is that we were sent to Limerick for a non-Dublin game. Limerick was a home game de facto for Kerry with a rig referee to boot.
Because they are actually home games, this is technically a neutral venue and there's big distances between most of them places this is also a one off game
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on August 17, 2015, 02:04:22 AM
Quote from: moysider on August 17, 2015, 01:46:04 AM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on August 17, 2015, 01:11:43 AM
Can someone please explain why Dublin's 'home advantage' is such a massive factor and how it is actually going to affect the final score? Where else are they supposed to hold it like? All Ireland Semi Finals are meant for Croker, no matter whos playing (especially when it will most likely sell out)
Is Thomond Park not an advantage for Muster against top teams?
Is the Aviva more likely to get a Leinster win v likes of Clermont than playing in France.
Look at any premiership team's points at home in a season in comparison to away points?
Where are the All Blacks more likely to beat SA (when they are on a par) Christchurch or Jo'burg?
Ffs if Manchester United could only play every European game in Old Trafford they would have won a bit more too.
It's a no-brainer.
The sickening thing is that we were sent to Limerick for a non-Dublin game. Limerick was a home game de facto for Kerry with a rig referee to boot.
Because they are actually home games, this is technically a neutral venue and there's big distances between most of them places this is also a one off game
Technically?
It's a home game for the Dublin lads. They sleep at home, eat what they want, and no slobbering with travel and hotel rooms. You never sleep well in hotels - especially if you have to perform the next day. It's a one off game but stacked against travelling team.
Quote from: moysider on August 17, 2015, 02:18:17 AM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on August 17, 2015, 02:04:22 AM
Quote from: moysider on August 17, 2015, 01:46:04 AM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on August 17, 2015, 01:11:43 AM
Can someone please explain why Dublin's 'home advantage' is such a massive factor and how it is actually going to affect the final score? Where else are they supposed to hold it like? All Ireland Semi Finals are meant for Croker, no matter whos playing (especially when it will most likely sell out)
Is Thomond Park not an advantage for Muster against top teams?
Is the Aviva more likely to get a Leinster win v likes of Clermont than playing in France.
Look at any premiership team's points at home in a season in comparison to away points?
Where are the All Blacks more likely to beat SA (when they are on a par) Christchurch or Jo'burg?
Ffs if Manchester United could only play every European game in Old Trafford they would have won a bit more too.
It's a no-brainer.
The sickening thing is that we were sent to Limerick for a non-Dublin game. Limerick was a home game de facto for Kerry with a rig referee to boot.
Because they are actually home games, this is technically a neutral venue and there's big distances between most of them places this is also a one off game
Technically?
It's a home game for the Dublin lads. They sleep at home, eat what they want, and no slobbering with travel and hotel rooms. You never sleep well in hotels - especially if you have to perform the next day. It's a one off game but stacked against travelling team.
As in its officially a neutral venue therefore equal ticket allocation etc
They're done it plenty Times before
Quote from: moysider on August 17, 2015, 01:46:04 AM
Is Thomond Park not an advantage for Muster against top teams?
Is the Aviva more likely to get a Leinster win v likes of Clermont than playing in France.
Look at any premiership team's points at home in a season in comparison to away points?
Where are the All Blacks more likely to beat SA (when they are on a par) Christchurch or Jo'burg?
Ffs if Manchester United could only play every European game in Old Trafford they would have won a bit more too.
It's a no-brainer.
The sickening thing is that we were sent to Limerick for a non-Dublin game. Limerick was a home game de facto for Kerry with a rig referee to boot.
Comparing the world of the GAA with international Rugby or Premiership soccer is spurious. Every GAA player worth his salt wants to be in Croke Park and none of them would regard Croke Park as Dublin's "home ground". For instance, in the early '90s teams from Ulster came to Croker and beat the Dubs on the big day year after year, as have Kerry, Meath and others over the years.
When teams did get hung up about Croker being an advantage to Dublin it often resulted in a sad ending for them. The best example of this phenomenon was the 1983 All Ireland Semi Final when Barney Rock pick-pocketed a draw against Cork. The reply was set for Cork and Cork supporters (and probably the Cork team) felt that the replay would be just a formality. Of course as we know Cork were whipped in the replay.
As recently as the 2015 League we can see where expectations were raised when Dublin had to play away, and home supporters anticipated a home win. It didn't always work out that way as we saw in Castlebar and Clones.
Quote from: moysider on August 17, 2015, 01:46:04 AM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on August 17, 2015, 01:11:43 AM
Can someone please explain why Dublin's 'home advantage' is such a massive factor and how it is actually going to affect the final score? Where else are they supposed to hold it like? All Ireland Semi Finals are meant for Croker, no matter whos playing (especially when it will most likely sell out)
Is Thomond Park not an advantage for Muster against top teams?
Is the Aviva more likely to get a Leinster win v likes of Clermont than playing in France.
Look at any premiership team's points at home in a season in comparison to away points?
Where are the All Blacks more likely to beat SA (when they are on a par) Christchurch or Jo'burg?
Ffs if Manchester United could only play every European game in Old Trafford they would have won a bit more too.
It's a no-brainer.
The sickening thing is that we were sent to Limerick for a non-Dublin game. Limerick was a home game de facto for Kerry with a rig referee to boot.
That's nonsense in fairness. I hope some Mayo fans are just doing a bit of friendly ribbing and don't actually believe any of that. Mayo have one of country's best teams and should embrace the fact you'll be involved in probably the best sporting occasion in Ireland this year. The result will simply come down to who performs on the day.
I see the Dublin Defending-the-Indefensible Force is out again. Trying to convince supporters of a county of their sins or inherent advantages here is like shouting at a brick wall sometimes.
Croke Park is a big advantage to Dublin, particularly in the AI series where crowds swell. There is no more that needs to be said on that one.
Lads would ye rather stay at home all the time or like to get on the open road for a holiday ?
Quote from: Syferus on August 17, 2015, 10:59:58 AM
I see the Dublin Defending-the-Indefensible Force is out again. Trying to convince supporters of a county of their sins or inherent advantages here is like shouting at a brick wall sometimes.
Croke Park is a big advantage to Dublin, particularly in the AI series where crowds swell. There is no more that needs to be said on that one.
It's interesting though that this argument always seems to come from counties whose teams underachieve. You don't ever hear it from the likes of Kerry or Meath or Tyrone or Armagh.
It didn't do Roscommon's cause much good to have Dublin out of Croke Park for the 2014 U21 Final.
Quote from: Zulu on August 17, 2015, 10:47:50 AM
Quote from: moysider on August 17, 2015, 01:46:04 AM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on August 17, 2015, 01:11:43 AM
Can someone please explain why Dublin's 'home advantage' is such a massive factor and how it is actually going to affect the final score? Where else are they supposed to hold it like? All Ireland Semi Finals are meant for Croker, no matter whos playing (especially when it will most likely sell out)
Is Thomond Park not an advantage for Muster against top teams?
Is the Aviva more likely to get a Leinster win v likes of Clermont than playing in France.
Look at any premiership team's points at home in a season in comparison to away points?
Where are the All Blacks more likely to beat SA (when they are on a par) Christchurch or Jo'burg?
Ffs if Manchester United could only play every European game in Old Trafford they would have won a bit more too.
It's a no-brainer.
The sickening thing is that we were sent to Limerick for a non-Dublin game. Limerick was a home game de facto for Kerry with a rig referee to boot.
That's nonsense in fairness. I hope some Mayo fans are just doing a bit of friendly ribbing and don't actually believe any of that. Mayo have one of country's best teams and should embrace the fact you'll be involved in probably the best sporting occasion in Ireland this year. The result will simply come down to who performs on the day.
Aghh!! Zulu great poster but cliche 101, up there with the hungriest team team etc.. What if both teams perform?
CP is Dublin's home ground, it is an advantage, a small margin but small margins add up. Physically it's an advantage to sleep in your own bed. Mentally routine is everything, familiarity eases stress, from your own bed, to your own dressing room, your routine at home never changes. Even tactically, whether it's something as simple as playing into the hill, familiarity with how the wind or rain affects play in CP, even kicking the ball out and judging the width against the perception that the stands make the pitch look wider. It a game that could be tight it's the small margins that make the difference.
Statistically I would love to see Dublin's win/loss record in CP since they moved there full-time 4/5 years ago compared to the previous 5 years. 2 AI and 3 NFL titles won indicate they don't lose many....
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on August 17, 2015, 11:27:27 AM
Quote from: Syferus on August 17, 2015, 10:59:58 AM
I see the Dublin Defending-the-Indefensible Force is out again. Trying to convince supporters of a county of their sins or inherent advantages here is like shouting at a brick wall sometimes.
Croke Park is a big advantage to Dublin, particularly in the AI series where crowds swell. There is no more that needs to be said on that one.
It's interesting though that this argument always seems to come from counties whose teams underachieve. You don't ever hear it from the likes of Kerry or Meath or Tyrone or Armagh.
It didn't do Roscommon's cause much good to have Dublin out of Croke Park for the 2014 U21 Final.
Meath and Armagh aren't under-achievers?
Quote from: Syferus on August 17, 2015, 10:59:58 AM
I see the Dublin Defending-the-Indefensible Force is out again. Trying to convince supporters of a county of their sins or inherent advantages here is like shouting at a brick wall sometimes.
Croke Park is a big advantage to Dublin, particularly in the AI series where crowds swell. There is no more that needs to be said on that one.
Again, nonsense. The crowd at the Dublin Mayo game will be close enough to 50/50, certainly nothing like the 90/10 that you would get at A Man U game or home international rugby game.
All the players, management and fans want this game to be in CP. Mayo's routine for a big game in CP is down to a tee so they will be as comfortable on the day as the Dub players.
There's never a game where absolutely everything is 50/50 for both sides so to complain about minor differences in things is a nonsense.
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on August 17, 2015, 11:27:27 AM
Quote from: Syferus on August 17, 2015, 10:59:58 AM
I see the Dublin Defending-the-Indefensible Force is out again. Trying to convince supporters of a county of their sins or inherent advantages here is like shouting at a brick wall sometimes.
Croke Park is a big advantage to Dublin, particularly in the AI series where crowds swell. There is no more that needs to be said on that one.
It's interesting though that this argument always seems to come from counties whose teams underachieve. You don't ever hear it from the likes of Kerry or Meath or Tyrone or Armagh.
It didn't do Roscommon's cause much good to have Dublin out of Croke Park for the 2014 U21 Final.
Roscommon if anything far overachieves for a county with 64k so I don't know what your play-the-man comment is about there.
In fairness on most things here Dublin posters have perspective and are decent sorts but Croke Park is like this big black spot in your vision. It is what it is - Dublin's actual home ground, de facto or otherwise. It is a very significant advantage whatever way you look at it.
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on August 17, 2015, 11:27:27 AM
Quote from: Syferus on August 17, 2015, 10:59:58 AM
I see the Dublin Defending-the-Indefensible Force is out again. Trying to convince supporters of a county of their sins or inherent advantages here is like shouting at a brick wall sometimes.
Croke Park is a big advantage to Dublin, particularly in the AI series where crowds swell. There is no more that needs to be said on that one.
It's interesting though that this argument always seems to come from counties whose teams underachieve. You don't ever hear it from the likes of Kerry or Meath or Tyrone or Armagh.
It didn't do Roscommon's cause much good to have Dublin out of Croke Park for the 2014 U21 Final.
Christ this is getting farcical. Is Croke Park technically a home game for Dublin, of course it is. Should it affect any of the top teams (of which Mayo are obviously one) and stop them from winning? No.
If you asked any of the Mayo players where they would want this game played, they would to a man say Croke Park. It's where they play their best football and any of the lads I know love playing the dubs in a full CP.
I know some posters are making reasonable points about it being a home game for the dubs and all that but it's the way it has always been and what other way would you have it anyway? Back to feckin Limerick? These boys long for playing in CP and now some lads are suggesting playing it somewhere else. FFS, there's a game to be won. Can we move on from this this cribbing about a venue the lads love playing in and get back to winding each other up about football matters at least!
Quote from: Dinny Breen on August 17, 2015, 11:35:00 AM
Quote from: Zulu on August 17, 2015, 10:47:50 AM
Quote from: moysider on August 17, 2015, 01:46:04 AM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on August 17, 2015, 01:11:43 AM
Can someone please explain why Dublin's 'home advantage' is such a massive factor and how it is actually going to affect the final score? Where else are they supposed to hold it like? All Ireland Semi Finals are meant for Croker, no matter whos playing (especially when it will most likely sell out)
Is Thomond Park not an advantage for Muster against top teams?
Is the Aviva more likely to get a Leinster win v likes of Clermont than playing in France.
Look at any premiership team's points at home in a season in comparison to away points?
Where are the All Blacks more likely to beat SA (when they are on a par) Christchurch or Jo'burg?
Ffs if Manchester United could only play every European game in Old Trafford they would have won a bit more too.
It's a no-brainer.
The sickening thing is that we were sent to Limerick for a non-Dublin game. Limerick was a home game de facto for Kerry with a rig referee to boot.
That's nonsense in fairness. I hope some Mayo fans are just doing a bit of friendly ribbing and don't actually believe any of that. Mayo have one of country's best teams and should embrace the fact you'll be involved in probably the best sporting occasion in Ireland this year. The result will simply come down to who performs on the day.
Aghh!! Zulu great poster but cliche 101, up there with the hungriest team team etc.. What if both teams perform?
CP is Dublin's home ground, it is an advantage, a small margin but small margins add up. Physically it's an advantage to sleep in your own bed. Mentally routine is everything, familiarity eases stress, from your own bed, to your own dressing room, your routine at home never changes. Even tactically, whether it's something as simple as playing into the hill, familiarity with how the wind or rain affects play in CP, even kicking the ball out and judging the width against the perception that the stands make the pitch look wider. It a game that could be tight it's the small margins that make the difference.
Statistically I would love to see Dublin's win/loss record in CP since they moved there full-time 4/5 years ago compared to the previous 5 years. 2 AI and 3 NFL titles won indicate they don't lose many....
Apologies for the cliche Dinny :D.
However, CP is not like Old Trafford is for Man U and Mayo would be a team nearly as familiar with CP on big days as it is for Dublin. It probably is a minor positive for Dublin but as I said in a previous post there is no game where everything is the same for both teams.
I don't disagree that sleeping in your own bed (and the like) can be an advantage but not necessarily so for all players. Some no doubt like to get away from home and get within the group dynamic in a hotel. I wonder will Mayo meet up with Dublin based players on the morning of the game or will they make them leave their own homes and join the team in a hotel?
Quote from: Syferus on August 17, 2015, 11:39:43 AM
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on August 17, 2015, 11:27:27 AM
Quote from: Syferus on August 17, 2015, 10:59:58 AM
I see the Dublin Defending-the-Indefensible Force is out again. Trying to convince supporters of a county of their sins or inherent advantages here is like shouting at a brick wall sometimes.
Croke Park is a big advantage to Dublin, particularly in the AI series where crowds swell. There is no more that needs to be said on that one.
It's interesting though that this argument always seems to come from counties whose teams underachieve. You don't ever hear it from the likes of Kerry or Meath or Tyrone or Armagh.
It didn't do Roscommon's cause much good to have Dublin out of Croke Park for the 2014 U21 Final.
Roscommon if anything far overachieves for a county with 64k so I don't know what your play-the-man comment is about there.
In fairness on most things here Dublin posters have perspective and are decent sorts but Croke Park is like this big black spot in your vision. It is what it is - Dublin's actual home ground, de facto or otherwise. It is a very significant advantage whatever way you look at it.
In that under 21 final where the mighty Rossies got their asses handed to them after about 15 minutes was clearly down to the playere having the wrong studs in. I believe that is the official line for all loses suffered, that and injuries to their galacticos picked up in training that is at a different level to any match because of the talent involved.
Anyway, it seems Mickey Conroy injured his shoulder playing for Davitt's over the weekend - rumours vary from dislocation to minor injury.
Quote from: Tubberman on August 17, 2015, 11:48:36 AM
Anyway, it seems Mickey Conroy injured his shoulder playing for Davitt's over the weekend - rumours vary from dislocation to minor injury.
What was he playing a club game for, was it own of the 'starred' games Tubberman?
Quote from: Dinny Breen on August 17, 2015, 11:35:00 AM
Statistically I would love to see Dublin's win/loss record in CP since they moved there full-time 4/5 years ago compared to the previous 5 years. 2 AI and 3 NFL titles won indicate they don't lose many....
Would you lads not have the generosity to concede that Dublin's recent success is due simply to the fact that they've had a great team.
You lads are going to have to make up your minds - is this Dublin team successful because of the "millions being poured in by the GAA" or because "they play at home". Can you not just accept that the answer lies in the fact that for the past few years Dublin have had an exceptional team.
I'm not sure who came up with the line that down to a man the mayo team would choose to have this game in Croke park, without doubt if Mayo had a choice it would be in McHale Park, they don't.
The advantage of sleeping in ur own bed with your own routine can't be overstated. Just because mayo are used to it at this stage doesn't mean it's te same as playing at home.
Just because Dublin lose there doesn't invalid the argument, it just means these teams overcame the extra disadvantage. Likewise Dublin haven't been successful solely because they play at home but it helps! And it's not a toss up between cash and home advantage it can be both!
As for CP not being Dublins home ground, similar to Tyrone not being a cynical team in terms of furthest from the truth
Quote from: Ballaghman on August 17, 2015, 11:53:58 AM
Quote from: Tubberman on August 17, 2015, 11:48:36 AM
Anyway, it seems Mickey Conroy injured his shoulder playing for Davitt's over the weekend - rumours vary from dislocation to minor injury.
What was he playing a club game for, was it own of the 'starred' games Tubberman?
Senior League 1A against Ballintubber. I presume H&C let him play to give him game time (are they allowed choose which players can play club?), Ballintubber were without county players
Quote from: Syferus on August 17, 2015, 11:39:43 AM
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on August 17, 2015, 11:27:27 AM
Quote from: Syferus on August 17, 2015, 10:59:58 AM
I see the Dublin Defending-the-Indefensible Force is out again. Trying to convince supporters of a county of their sins or inherent advantages here is like shouting at a brick wall sometimes.
Croke Park is a big advantage to Dublin, particularly in the AI series where crowds swell. There is no more that needs to be said on that one.
It's interesting though that this argument always seems to come from counties whose teams underachieve. You don't ever hear it from the likes of Kerry or Meath or Tyrone or Armagh.
It didn't do Roscommon's cause much good to have Dublin out of Croke Park for the 2014 U21 Final.
Roscommon if anything far overachieves for a county with 64k so I don't know what your play-the-man comment is about there.
In fairness on most things here Dublin posters have perspective and are decent sorts but Croke Park is like this big black spot in your vision. It is what it is - Dublin's actual home ground, de facto or otherwise. It is a very significant advantage whatever way you look at it.
I accept - it was a cheap shot. :-[
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on August 17, 2015, 12:03:25 PM
I'm not sure who came up with the line that down to a man the mayo team would choose to have this game in Croke park, without doubt if Mayo had a choice it would be in McHale Park, they don't.
The advantage of sleeping in ur own bed with your own routine can't be overstated. Just because mayo are used to it at this stage doesn't mean it's te same as playing at home.
Just because Dublin lose there doesn't invalid the argument, it just means these teams overcame the extra disadvantage. Likewise Dublin haven't been successful solely because they play at home but it helps! And it's not a toss up between cash and home advantage it can be both!
As for CP not being Dublins home ground, similar to Tyrone not being a cynical team in terms of furthest from the truth
I think it's me your quoting and I would disagree with you, Mayo lads prefer playing in Croke park at this time of year. Anyway, control the controllables lads, this is all pointless nonsense.
Quote from: Tubberman on August 17, 2015, 12:14:39 PM
Quote from: Ballaghman on August 17, 2015, 11:53:58 AM
Quote from: Tubberman on August 17, 2015, 11:48:36 AM
Anyway, it seems Mickey Conroy injured his shoulder playing for Davitt's over the weekend - rumours vary from dislocation to minor injury.
What was he playing a club game for, was it own of the 'starred' games Tubberman?
Senior League 1A against Ballintubber. I presume H&C let him play to give him game time (are they allowed choose which players can play club?), Ballintubber were without county players
I don't know if they can pick and choose, wouldn't seem fair if they can. Makes sense that he was encouraged to play though, he needed the game time as you say. Unfortunate for the poor fella if it's a bad injury, he's not having much luck on the injury front lately
Quote from: Zulu on August 17, 2015, 10:47:50 AM
Quote from: moysider on August 17, 2015, 01:46:04 AM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on August 17, 2015, 01:11:43 AM
Can someone please explain why Dublin's 'home advantage' is such a massive factor and how it is actually going to affect the final score? Where else are they supposed to hold it like? All Ireland Semi Finals are meant for Croker, no matter whos playing (especially when it will most likely sell out)
Is Thomond Park not an advantage for Muster against top teams?
Is the Aviva more likely to get a Leinster win v likes of Clermont than playing in France.
Look at any premiership team's points at home in a season in comparison to away points?
Where are the All Blacks more likely to beat SA (when they are on a par) Christchurch or Jo'burg?
Ffs if Manchester United could only play every European game in Old Trafford they would have won a bit more too.
It's a no-brainer.
The sickening thing is that we were sent to Limerick for a non-Dublin game. Limerick was a home game de facto for Kerry with a rig referee to boot.
That's nonsense in fairness. I hope some Mayo fans are just doing a bit of friendly ribbing and don't actually believe any of that. Mayo have one of country's best teams and should embrace the fact you'll be involved in probably the best sporting occasion in Ireland this year. The result will simply come down to who performs on the day.
Exactly
Hi! I've just popped in to speak some sense, like I always do.
To say a team that plays at home in every game has an advantage is a FACT!
To say a team that has it's underage structures paid for and it's senior team backed by millions has an advantage is a FACT!
To say a team that plays at home in every game doesn't have an advantage is a LIE!
To say a team that has it's underage structures paid for and it's senior team backed by millions doesn't have an advantage is a LIE!
Happy to sort all this out for you. I'm sure everyone will agree with my synopsis above and will deal with the FACTS in a reasonable and respectable nature. Slán.
Forgot to add that Joe McQuillan has been assisting Dublin for over a decade now, how he's still let ref their matches I don't know. He even helps them out in training on occasions.
Conroy is out for the rest of the year - big blow for him personally, and a blow to the Mayo squad as it limits our options if things aren't going well.
https://twitter.com/ConroyMickey/status/633261067892846592 (https://twitter.com/ConroyMickey/status/633261067892846592)
QuoteDisappointing weekend. Another injury that ends 2015 for me. Will be supporting from the stands. #suchislife
Quote from: Teo Lurley on August 17, 2015, 02:56:54 PM
Forgot to add that Joe McQuillan has been assisting Dublin for over a decade now, how he's still let ref their matches I don't know. He even helps them out in training on occasions.
I thought he was very fair in 2013
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on August 17, 2015, 03:37:46 PM
Quote from: Teo Lurley on August 17, 2015, 02:56:54 PM
Forgot to add that Joe McQuillan has been assisting Dublin for over a decade now, how he's still let ref their matches I don't know. He even helps them out in training on occasions.
I thought he was very fair in 2013
;D :-X see the free count and watch it back.
Quote from: The Aristocrat on August 17, 2015, 03:57:25 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on August 17, 2015, 03:37:46 PM
Quote from: Teo Lurley on August 17, 2015, 02:56:54 PM
Forgot to add that Joe McQuillan has been assisting Dublin for over a decade now, how he's still let ref their matches I don't know. He even helps them out in training on occasions.
I thought he was very fair in 2013
;D :-X see the free count and watch it back.
Do you not remember the Dublin players fouling repeatedly in the last 15 mins to close out the game? Every few metres gained, Mayo players were hauled down. That accounts for a lot of the frees rather than referee bias!
Quote from: Tubberman on August 17, 2015, 04:24:08 PM
Quote from: The Aristocrat on August 17, 2015, 03:57:25 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on August 17, 2015, 03:37:46 PM
Quote from: Teo Lurley on August 17, 2015, 02:56:54 PM
Forgot to add that Joe McQuillan has been assisting Dublin for over a decade now, how he's still let ref their matches I don't know. He even helps them out in training on occasions.
I thought he was very fair in 2013
;D :-X see the free count and watch it back.
Do you not remember the Dublin players fouling repeatedly in the last 15 mins to close out the game? Every few metres gained, Mayo players were hauled down. That accounts for a lot of the frees rather than referee bias!
Just returning the favour at the 2012 semi when Mayo spent the last 15 mins on the ground etc.
Quote from: The Aristocrat on August 17, 2015, 04:34:55 PM
Quote from: Tubberman on August 17, 2015, 04:24:08 PM
Quote from: The Aristocrat on August 17, 2015, 03:57:25 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on August 17, 2015, 03:37:46 PM
Quote from: Teo Lurley on August 17, 2015, 02:56:54 PM
Forgot to add that Joe McQuillan has been assisting Dublin for over a decade now, how he's still let ref their matches I don't know. He even helps them out in training on occasions.
I thought he was very fair in 2013
;D :-X see the free count and watch it back.
Do you not remember the Dublin players fouling repeatedly in the last 15 mins to close out the game? Every few metres gained, Mayo players were hauled down. That accounts for a lot of the frees rather than referee bias!
Just returning the favour at the 2012 semi when Mayo spent the last 15 mins on the ground etc.
Not suggesting otherwise, just pointing out the reason for the free count was down to Dublin's fouling, not Joe McQuillan as you suggested.
Mayo as usual getting their excuses in early.
Quote from: giveballaghback on August 17, 2015, 11:11:16 PM
Mayo as usual getting their excuses in early.
We may as well. I just think Dublin will win because their forwards are way better than any forwards Mayo's defence have faced all year.
Quote from: Farrandeelin on August 17, 2015, 11:26:07 PM
Quote from: giveballaghback on August 17, 2015, 11:11:16 PM
Mayo as usual getting their excuses in early.
We may as well. I just think Dublin will win because their forwards are way better than any forwards Mayo's defence have faced all year.
Yeah but the Reek was cancelled. The planets are aligning for Mayo.
It's written in the stars
Quote from: Farrandeelin on August 17, 2015, 11:26:07 PM
Quote from: giveballaghback on August 17, 2015, 11:11:16 PM
Mayo as usual getting their excuses in early.
We may as well. I just think Dublin will win because their forwards are way better than any forwards Mayo's defence have faced all year.
Hardly worth going up so. ;)
Game is officially a sell out.
Quote from: INDIANA on August 17, 2015, 11:30:41 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on August 17, 2015, 11:26:07 PM
Quote from: giveballaghback on August 17, 2015, 11:11:16 PM
Mayo as usual getting their excuses in early.
We may as well. I just think Dublin will win because their forwards are way better than any forwards Mayo's defence have faced all year.
Yeah but the Reek was cancelled. The planets are aligning for Mayo.
It's written in the stars
So you're telling us Dublin have astrologists on the staff as well now...feck sake.
Quote from: ballinaman on August 17, 2015, 11:37:07 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on August 17, 2015, 11:30:41 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on August 17, 2015, 11:26:07 PM
Quote from: giveballaghback on August 17, 2015, 11:11:16 PM
Mayo as usual getting their excuses in early.
We may as well. I just think Dublin will win because their forwards are way better than any forwards Mayo's defence have faced all year.
Yeah but the Reek was cancelled. The planets are aligning for Mayo.
It's written in the stars
So you're telling us Dublin have astrologists on the staff as well now...feck sake.
Indiana and the other Dubs on here can afford to be flippant.
Stuff is spinned but they expect to win and they know that they have a considerable advantage in CP. There is a sense of ownership about the place from the Dubs going back to heffos time the 70s. Pillar's teams' march to the hill was a deliberate statement of ownership of the pitch. The only statement comparable to that, that is still indulged, is the NZ haka.
Most of the Dub posters here know their football but a lot of their garden supporters are condescending and dismissive of everybody else bar maybe Kerry. These tend to be less than knowledgeable about their own team never mind the culchie hoardes. When they lose though its quickly dismissed and they return to their first and true love for next 9 months (Man U).
I'm complaining about the disadvantage we face before the event. Pointing it out like. To highlight the advantage after I would be accused of whinging.
The notion that CP is some kind of Mecca or Taj Mahal is way off the mark also. It's already a crumbling pigeon sanctuary, that was never completed and is poorly serviced by public transport. In a part of a city very difficult to reach.
Before my fellow countymen get caught up again in the romanticism about the place. The game is about players and great teams - not the field. The great teams/ players/ games would just have been as good anywhere else.
Wow. Whingefest meets Cringefest
Quote from: moysider on August 18, 2015, 12:28:09 AM
The notion that CP is some kind of Mecca or Taj Mahal is way off the mark also. It's already a crumbling pigeon sanctuary, that was never completed and is poorly serviced by public transport. In a part of a city very difficult to reach.
Yeah, a place within a short walk of Connolly Station and Bus Aras is very difficult to reach!
But at least it puts the rest of your posts in context
You do know that trains from Mayo enter at Heuston... And there aren't buses every few minutes from towns. Perhaps he's just pointing that bit of info out gor ye.
Quote from: Farrandeelin on August 18, 2015, 08:05:20 AM
You do know that trains from Mayo enter at Heuston... And there aren't buses every few minutes from towns. Perhaps he's just pointing that bit of info out gor ye.
We should play it in Limerick
Keane's appeal being heard tomorrow night apparently, it was a harsh enough red considering the contact but a strike nonetheless so it's hard to see him getting off
Quote from: moysider on August 18, 2015, 12:28:09 AM
Quote from: ballinaman on August 17, 2015, 11:37:07 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on August 17, 2015, 11:30:41 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on August 17, 2015, 11:26:07 PM
Quote from: giveballaghback on August 17, 2015, 11:11:16 PM
Mayo as usual getting their excuses in early.
We may as well. I just think Dublin will win because their forwards are way better than any forwards Mayo's defence have faced all year.
Yeah but the Reek was cancelled. The planets are aligning for Mayo.
It's written in the stars
So you're telling us Dublin have astrologists on the staff as well now...feck sake.
Indiana and the other Dubs on here can afford to be flippant.
Stuff is spinned but they expect to win and they know that they have a considerable advantage in CP. There is a sense of ownership about the place from the Dubs going back to heffos time the 70s. Pillar's teams' march to the hill was a deliberate statement of ownership of the pitch. The only statement comparable to that, that is still indulged, is the NZ haka.
Most of the Dub posters here know their football but a lot of their garden supporters are condescending and dismissive of everybody else bar maybe Kerry. These tend to be less than knowledgeable about their own team never mind the culchie hoardes. When they lose though its quickly dismissed and they return to their first and true love for next 9 months (Man U).
I'm complaining about the disadvantage we face before the event. Pointing it out like. To highlight the advantage after I would be accused of whinging.
The notion that CP is some kind of Mecca or Taj Mahal is way off the mark also. It's already a crumbling pigeon sanctuary, that was never completed and is poorly serviced by public transport. In a part of a city very difficult to reach
.
Before my fellow countymen get caught up again in the romanticism about the place. The game is about players and great teams - not the field. The great teams/ players/ games would just have been as good anywhere else.
Ah come on now. That's just being plain silly saying that it is "very difficult to reach".
Quote from: heffo on August 18, 2015, 08:46:59 AM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on August 18, 2015, 08:05:20 AM
You do know that trains from Mayo enter at Heuston... And there aren't buses every few minutes from towns. Perhaps he's just pointing that bit of info out gor ye.
We should play it in Limerick
That didn't work out either . Let's play it in Mayo like the league game last spring
Wait can't do that either. Let's just forfeit instead that might keep them happy
Quote from: Hound on August 18, 2015, 07:17:17 AM
Wow. Whingefest meets Cringefest
Quote from: moysider on August 18, 2015, 12:28:09 AM
The notion that CP is some kind of Mecca or Taj Mahal is way off the mark also. It's already a crumbling pigeon sanctuary, that was never completed and is poorly serviced by public transport. In a part of a city very difficult to reach.
Yeah, a place within a short walk of Connolly Station and Bus Aras is very difficult to reach!
But at least it puts the rest of your posts in context
We wouldn't feel safe walking through all the kn**ker's and junkies around there
Jesus lads, it's Croke Park, not Hyde Park. It's a fantastic stadium and it's straightforward to get to.
Quote from: Farrandeelin on August 18, 2015, 08:05:20 AM
You do know that trains from Mayo enter at Heuston... And there aren't buses every few minutes from towns. Perhaps he's just pointing that bit of info out gor ye.
When you get to Heuston, just ask for Jerry Lee.
He'll zip you up to Connolly in no time for a couple of euro.
The poll on top of this thread seems to reflect the general view that Mayo will win - they probably will ;)
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on August 18, 2015, 11:34:27 AM
The poll on top of this thread seems to reflect the general view that Mayo will win - they probably will ;)
I see the Dubs are going to play mind games? 😂
Quote from: macdanger2 on August 18, 2015, 09:09:12 AM
Keane's appeal being heard tomorrow night apparently, it was a harsh enough red considering the contact but a strike nonetheless so it's hard to see him getting off
but it made murphy cry and and go tittle tattle to the umpire
I suppose we should be glad he didnt do a tyrone swan dive.
what ever about his football ability you can forget about him as a Maaan
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on August 18, 2015, 10:18:51 AM
Quote from: Hound on August 18, 2015, 07:17:17 AM
Wow. Whingefest meets Cringefest
Quote from: moysider on August 18, 2015, 12:28:09 AM
The notion that CP is some kind of Mecca or Taj Mahal is way off the mark also. It's already a crumbling pigeon sanctuary, that was never completed and is poorly serviced by public transport. In a part of a city very difficult to reach.
Yeah, a place within a short walk of Connolly Station and Bus Aras is very difficult to reach!
But at least it puts the rest of your posts in context
We wouldn't feel safe walking through all the kn**ker's and junkies around there
Classy.
Quote from: Tubberman on August 18, 2015, 11:13:52 AM
Jesus lads, it's Croke Park, not Hyde Park. It's a fantastic stadium and it's straightforward to get to.
Leave the home of Connacht football out of it.
Quote from: moysider on August 18, 2015, 12:28:09 AM
Stuff is spinned but they expect to win and they know that they have a considerable advantage in CP.......
I'm complaining about the disadvantage we face before the event. Pointing it out like. To highlight the advantage after I would be accused of whinging......
The game is about players and great teams - not the field. The great teams/ players/ games would just have been as good anywhere else.
Then, how exactly do we have an advantage?????
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on August 18, 2015, 10:18:51 AM
Quote from: Hound on August 18, 2015, 07:17:17 AM
Wow. Whingefest meets Cringefest
Quote from: moysider on August 18, 2015, 12:28:09 AM
The notion that CP is some kind of Mecca or Taj Mahal is way off the mark also. It's already a crumbling pigeon sanctuary, that was never completed and is poorly serviced by public transport. In a part of a city very difficult to reach.
Yeah, a place within a short walk of Connolly Station and Bus Aras is very difficult to reach!
But at least it puts the rest of your posts in context
We wouldn't feel safe walking through all the kn**ker's and junkies around there
Funny felt the same last time I walked around Ballina with all the itinerants. You should feel right at home then so
Thought you'd be a harder man than that Indy. 8)
Ya Indy...you'd get the heart kicked of ya easily round here hai...
Yer man Bono was sent packing the nancy boy ;D
http://www.u2theearlydayz.com/10051980-town-hall-ballina.html
Quote from: INDIANA on August 18, 2015, 05:55:21 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on August 18, 2015, 10:18:51 AM
Quote from: Hound on August 18, 2015, 07:17:17 AM
Wow. Whingefest meets Cringefest
Quote from: moysider on August 18, 2015, 12:28:09 AM
The notion that CP is some kind of Mecca or Taj Mahal is way off the mark also. It's already a crumbling pigeon sanctuary, that was never completed and is poorly serviced by public transport. In a part of a city very difficult to reach.
Yeah, a place within a short walk of Connolly Station and Bus Aras is very difficult to reach!
But at least it puts the rest of your posts in context
We wouldn't feel safe walking through all the kn**ker's and junkies around there
Funny felt the same last time I walked around Ballina with all the itinerants. You should feel right at home then so
What was a fine Dub like you doing wandering around the land of the Culchies, outside the protection of the Pale and all
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on August 18, 2015, 06:30:38 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on August 18, 2015, 05:55:21 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on August 18, 2015, 10:18:51 AM
Quote from: Hound on August 18, 2015, 07:17:17 AM
Wow. Whingefest meets Cringefest
Quote from: moysider on August 18, 2015, 12:28:09 AM
The notion that CP is some kind of Mecca or Taj Mahal is way off the mark also. It's already a crumbling pigeon sanctuary, that was never completed and is poorly serviced by public transport. In a part of a city very difficult to reach.
Yeah, a place within a short walk of Connolly Station and Bus Aras is very difficult to reach!
But at least it puts the rest of your posts in context
We wouldn't feel safe walking through all the kn**ker's and junkies around there
Funny felt the same last time I walked around Ballina with all the itinerants. You should feel right at home then so
What was a fine Dub like you doing wandering around the land of the Culchies, outside the protection of the Pale and all
My mother told me to experience a wide circle of life. You haven't lived unless you've been to a nightclub in Ballina. I'm telling you'd love some of the pubs on the way up from Heuston.
LOL-Indiana. I saw a fella in a nightclub in Castlebar, wearing steel toe capped boots (just in case aggro broke out)
This game could be played on the Strawberry Beds that sweep down to the Liffey, reffed by Mrs Brown and have Brush Shields sing a few songs at half-time and Mayo would still wipe the floor with Dublin.
One of the Dubs remarked earlier (and I'm sorry I can't namecheck you, but I haven't the time to go looking back) that it was unfair to attribute Dublin's recent success to the millions spent and the home advantage thing and all the rest. He's correct. Dublin have always had home advantage, have always had more, ahem, resources than other counties and all the rest. But it's only now that they've started to really dominate the landscape.
There are two reasons for this. The first is the failure of any other Leinster team to mount even a token resistance. But the second is that the current Dublin team are blessed with players of not alone outstanding talent, but talent that's ideally suited to the modern game. Stephen Cluxton and Michael Dara MacAuley are the players who are supremely adapted to the modern game, while Connolly would be a great on any team in any era. A child could see that.
However. If I were Jim Gavin I'm not sure I'd be one bit happy about this game. I'd be wondering just which side the hill some of my key older players are. I'd be wondering what exactly is in the belly of some of my other players. Dublin haven't played a team as physically conditioned as Mayo all summer. You can theorise about it all you like, but the theory of being hit by Colm Boyle and the actuality of that explosive and crippling impact are two different things. How quickly will it take Dublin to adjust to that?
The other thing that isn't making news but maybe ought to is the absence of Eoghan O'Gara. O'Gara is a little like MacAuley - he's not a footballer from central casting, but he does a very specific job for Dublin, and nobody else does it quite as well. I could never quite figure out the fuss over him until I saw him live in 2013. I got it then.
But O'Gara's on the DL now. Before his traumatic trip outside the M50, over which the nation naturally weeps, Indiana made a valuable point here about what Dublin would lose in putting Connolly inside in terms of another target for Cluxton. You may also have read Jim McGuinness's thoughts in today's Irish Times about how Cluxton can get a little jittery if the kickouts aren't quite going his way. Dublin need Connolly out the field but if he's out the field, who'll be the O'Gara-esque bull in the china shop on the edge of the square?
This has been an excellent Dublin generation, without question their best since the 70s. Which generation was better is a harder question, for another thread. But I'm afraid, my metropolitan friends, that the End is Near. It's coming from the West on swift wings, and desolation comes with it. Best to brace yourselves now, while you still have time. If you're heading west again between now and then Indiana, give Ballina a skip and head for Knock. Catch a few novenas. Stock up on the rosary beads, just in case.
Up Mayo.
Quote from: IolarCoisCuain on August 18, 2015, 09:26:01 PM
This game could be played on the Strawberry Beds that sweep down to the Liffey, reffed by Mrs Brown and have Brush Shields sing a few songs at half-time and Mayo would still wipe the floor with Dublin.
One of the Dubs remarked earlier (and I'm sorry I can't namecheck you, but I haven't the time to go looking back) that it was unfair to attribute Dublin's recent success to the millions spent and the home advantage thing and all the rest. He's correct. Dublin have always had home advantage, have always had more, ahem, resources than other counties and all the rest. But it's only now that they've started to really dominate the landscape.
There are two reasons for this. The first is the failure of any other Leinster team to mount even a token resistance. But the second is that the current Dublin team are blessed with players of not alone outstanding talent, but talent that's ideally suited to the modern game. Stephen Cluxton and Michael Dara MacAuley are the players who are supremely adapted to the modern game, while Connolly would be a great on any team in any era. A child could see that.
However. If I were Jim Gavin I'm not sure I'd be one bit happy about this game. I'd be wondering just which side the hill some of my key older players are. I'd be wondering what exactly is in the belly of some of my other players. Dublin haven't played a team as physically conditioned as Mayo all summer. You can theorise about it all you like, but the theory of being hit by Colm Boyle and the actuality of that explosive and crippling impact are two different things. How quickly will it take Dublin to adjust to that?
The other thing that isn't making news but maybe ought to is the absence of Eoghan O'Gara. O'Gara is a little like MacAuley - he's not a footballer from central casting, but he does a very specific job for Dublin, and nobody else does it quite as well. I could never quite figure out the fuss over him until I saw him live in 2013. I got it then.
But O'Gara's on the DL now. Before his traumatic trip outside the M50, over which the nation naturally weeps, Indiana made a valuable point here about what Dublin would lose in putting Connolly inside in terms of another target for Cluxton. You may also have read Jim McGuinness's thoughts in today's Irish Times about how Cluxton can get a little jittery if the kickouts aren't quite going his way. Dublin need Connolly out the field but if he's out the field, who'll be the O'Gara-esque bull in the china shop on the edge of the square?
Bernard Brogan?
This has been an excellent Dublin generation, without question their best since the 70s. Which generation was better is a harder question, for another thread. But I'm afraid, my metropolitan friends, that the End is Near. It's coming from the West on swift wings, and desolation comes with it. Best to brace yourselves now, while you still have time. If you're heading west again between now and then Indiana, give Ballina a skip and head for Knock. Catch a few novenas. Stock up on the rosary beads, just in case.
Up Mayo.
More mind games I'm guessing? Dublin are clear favorites
Quote from: whitey on August 18, 2015, 07:22:23 PM
LOL-Indiana. I saw a fella in a nightclub in Castlebar, wearing steel toe capped boots (just in case aggro broke out)
Maybe he had ingrown toenails? Remember having that problem. Nightclubs were a real killer. It's hard to believe the amount of people that stand on your feet (toes). Disaster for playing football.
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 18, 2015, 09:41:28 PM
Quote from: whitey on August 18, 2015, 07:22:23 PM
LOL-Indiana. I saw a fella in a nightclub in Castlebar, wearing steel toe capped boots (just in case aggro broke out)
Maybe he had ingrown toenails? Remember having that problem. Nightclubs were a real killer. It's hard to believe the amount of people that stand on your feet (toes). Disaster for playing football.
Funny there was one bird in that nightclub in Ballina that was wearing fish nets but you'd have needed a fishing trawler to find them. Remember it distinctly - it was such an ungainly sight.
It was an eclectic mix . The Dublin scrotes mixed in with the Ballina itinerants and a few poor hen partys who I felt sorry for.
I mean who in the name of God would pick down-town Ballina for a stag or a hen (shakes head). May as well do a pub crawl in Ballybough
Quote from: INDIANA on August 18, 2015, 05:55:21 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on August 18, 2015, 10:18:51 AM
Quote from: Hound on August 18, 2015, 07:17:17 AM
Wow. Whingefest meets Cringefest
Quote from: moysider on August 18, 2015, 12:28:09 AM
The notion that CP is some kind of Mecca or Taj Mahal is way off the mark also. It's already a crumbling pigeon sanctuary, that was never completed and is poorly serviced by public transport. In a part of a city very difficult to reach.
Yeah, a place within a short walk of Connolly Station and Bus Aras is very difficult to reach!
But at least it puts the rest of your posts in context
We wouldn't feel safe walking through all the kn**ker's and junkies around there
Funny felt the same last time I walked around Ballina with all the itinerants. You should feel right at home then so
I'm sure you mean the travelling community? Yeah loads of them there.
But they are mostly well behaved and well fed. Can t compare them to the emaciated wrecks of junkies that roar at each other as they freeload from one luas stop to the other. God love them. And I mean that sincerely.
Quote from: moysider on August 18, 2015, 11:15:54 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on August 18, 2015, 05:55:21 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on August 18, 2015, 10:18:51 AM
Quote from: Hound on August 18, 2015, 07:17:17 AM
Wow. Whingefest meets Cringefest
Quote from: moysider on August 18, 2015, 12:28:09 AM
The notion that CP is some kind of Mecca or Taj Mahal is way off the mark also. It's already a crumbling pigeon sanctuary, that was never completed and is poorly serviced by public transport. In a part of a city very difficult to reach.
Yeah, a place within a short walk of Connolly Station and Bus Aras is very difficult to reach!
But at least it puts the rest of your posts in context
We wouldn't feel safe walking through all the kn**ker's and junkies around there
Funny felt the same last time I walked around Ballina with all the itinerants. You should feel right at home then so
I'm sure you mean the travelling community? Yeah loads of them there.
But they are mostly well behaved and well fed. Can t compare them to the emaciated wrecks of junkies that roar at each other as they freeload from one luas stop to the other. God love them. And I mean that sincerely.
Plenty of junkies in Ballina these days in fairness. Ballina has had a heroin problem since 2007. It's as big a shithole as many of the drug den kips in Dublin
Quote from: INDIANA on August 18, 2015, 11:19:33 PM
Quote from: moysider on August 18, 2015, 11:15:54 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on August 18, 2015, 05:55:21 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on August 18, 2015, 10:18:51 AM
Quote from: Hound on August 18, 2015, 07:17:17 AM
Wow. Whingefest meets Cringefest
Quote from: moysider on August 18, 2015, 12:28:09 AM
The notion that CP is some kind of Mecca or Taj Mahal is way off the mark also. It's already a crumbling pigeon sanctuary, that was never completed and is poorly serviced by public transport. In a part of a city very difficult to reach.
Yeah, a place within a short walk of Connolly Station and Bus Aras is very difficult to reach!
But at least it puts the rest of your posts in context
We wouldn't feel safe walking through all the kn**ker's and junkies around there
Funny felt the same last time I walked around Ballina with all the itinerants. You should feel right at home then so
I'm sure you mean the travelling community? Yeah loads of them there.
But they are mostly well behaved and well fed. Can t compare them to the emaciated wrecks of junkies that roar at each other as they freeload from one luas stop to the other. God love them. And I mean that sincerely.
Plenty of junkies in Ballina these days in fairness. Ballina has had a heroin problem since 2007. It's as big a shithole as many of the drug den kips in Dublin
Back to the football discussion anyone?
Quote from: IolarCoisCuain on August 18, 2015, 09:26:01 PM
This game could be played on the Strawberry Beds that sweep down to the Liffey, reffed by Mrs Brown and have Brush Shields sing a few songs at half-time and Mayo would still wipe the floor with Dublin.
One of the Dubs remarked earlier (and I'm sorry I can't namecheck you, but I haven't the time to go looking back) that it was unfair to attribute Dublin's recent success to the millions spent and the home advantage thing and all the rest. He's correct. Dublin have always had home advantage, have always had more, ahem, resources than other counties and all the rest. But it's only now that they've started to really dominate the landscape.
There are two reasons for this. The first is the failure of any other Leinster team to mount even a token resistance. But the second is that the current Dublin team are blessed with players of not alone outstanding talent, but talent that's ideally suited to the modern game. Stephen Cluxton and Michael Dara MacAuley are the players who are supremely adapted to the modern game, while Connolly would be a great on any team in any era. A child could see that.
However. If I were Jim Gavin I'm not sure I'd be one bit happy about this game. I'd be wondering just which side the hill some of my key older players are. I'd be wondering what exactly is in the belly of some of my other players. Dublin haven't played a team as physically conditioned as Mayo all summer. You can theorise about it all you like, but the theory of being hit by Colm Boyle and the actuality of that explosive and crippling impact are two different things. How quickly will it take Dublin to adjust to that?
The other thing that isn't making news but maybe ought to is the absence of Eoghan O'Gara. O'Gara is a little like MacAuley - he's not a footballer from central casting, but he does a very specific job for Dublin, and nobody else does it quite as well. I could never quite figure out the fuss over him until I saw him live in 2013. I got it then.
But O'Gara's on the DL now. Before his traumatic trip outside the M50, over which the nation naturally weeps, Indiana made a valuable point here about what Dublin would lose in putting Connolly inside in terms of another target for Cluxton. You may also have read Jim McGuinness's thoughts in today's Irish Times about how Cluxton can get a little jittery if the kickouts aren't quite going his way. Dublin need Connolly out the field but if he's out the field, who'll be the O'Gara-esque bull in the china shop on the edge of the square?
This has been an excellent Dublin generation, without question their best since the 70s. Which generation was better is a harder question, for another thread. But I'm afraid, my metropolitan friends, that the End is Near. It's coming from the West on swift wings, and desolation comes with it. Best to brace yourselves now, while you still have time. If you're heading west again between now and then Indiana, give Ballina a skip and head for Knock. Catch a few novenas. Stock up on the rosary beads, just in case.
Up Mayo.
I stopped at Colm Boyle, another in the guise of Aidan OMahony with the Garda hardman act
You will be quoting Donal Vaughan next ::)
Quote from: IolarCoisCuain on August 18, 2015, 09:26:01 PM
This game could be played on the Strawberry Beds that sweep down to the Liffey, reffed by Mrs Brown and have Brush Shields sing a few songs at half-time and Mayo would still wipe the floor with Dublin.
One of the Dubs remarked earlier (and I'm sorry I can't namecheck you, but I haven't the time to go looking back) that it was unfair to attribute Dublin's recent success to the millions spent and the home advantage thing and all the rest. He's correct. Dublin have always had home advantage, have always had more, ahem, resources than other counties and all the rest. But it's only now that they've started to really dominate the landscape.
There are two reasons for this. The first is the failure of any other Leinster team to mount even a token resistance. But the second is that the current Dublin team are blessed with players of not alone outstanding talent, but talent that's ideally suited to the modern game. Stephen Cluxton and Michael Dara MacAuley are the players who are supremely adapted to the modern game, while Connolly would be a great on any team in any era. A child could see that.
However. If I were Jim Gavin I'm not sure I'd be one bit happy about this game. I'd be wondering just which side the hill some of my key older players are. I'd be wondering what exactly is in the belly of some of my other players. Dublin haven't played a team as physically conditioned as Mayo all summer. You can theorise about it all you like, but the theory of being hit by Colm Boyle and the actuality of that explosive and crippling impact are two different things. How quickly will it take Dublin to adjust to that?
The other thing that isn't making news but maybe ought to is the absence of Eoghan O'Gara. O'Gara is a little like MacAuley - he's not a footballer from central casting, but he does a very specific job for Dublin, and nobody else does it quite as well. I could never quite figure out the fuss over him until I saw him live in 2013. I got it then.
But O'Gara's on the DL now. Before his traumatic trip outside the M50, over which the nation naturally weeps, Indiana made a valuable point here about what Dublin would lose in putting Connolly inside in terms of another target for Cluxton. You may also have read Jim McGuinness's thoughts in today's Irish Times about how Cluxton can get a little jittery if the kickouts aren't quite going his way. Dublin need Connolly out the field but if he's out the field, who'll be the O'Gara-esque bull in the china shop on the edge of the square?
This has been an excellent Dublin generation, without question their best since the 70s. Which generation was better is a harder question, for another thread. But I'm afraid, my metropolitan friends, that the End is Near. It's coming from the West on swift wings, and desolation comes with it. Best to brace yourselves now, while you still have time. If you're heading west again between now and then Indiana, give Ballina a skip and head for Knock. Catch a few novenas. Stock up on the rosary beads, just in case.
Up Mayo.
100 percent agreed. Exceptional post
Quote from: INDIANA on August 18, 2015, 11:08:54 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 18, 2015, 09:41:28 PM
Quote from: whitey on August 18, 2015, 07:22:23 PM
LOL-Indiana. I saw a fella in a nightclub in Castlebar, wearing steel toe capped boots (just in case aggro broke out)
Maybe he had ingrown toenails? Remember having that problem. Nightclubs were a real killer. It's hard to believe the amount of people that stand on your feet (toes). Disaster for playing football.
Funny there was one bird in that nightclub in Ballina that was wearing fish nets but you'd have needed a fishing trawler to find them. Remember it distinctly - it was such an ungainly sight.
It was an eclectic mix . The Dublin scrotes mixed in with the Ballina itinerants and a few poor hen partys who I felt sorry for.
I mean who in the name of God would pick down-town Ballina for a stag or a hen (shakes head). May as well do a pub crawl in Ballybough
Wha? a few (3) hen parties in the one place in a spot in Ballina. Jaysus, which recession was that again they were reduced so low? 70s early 80s, 80s, early 90s or after the bail-out?
I'm listening to a Ballina fella complaining about the expense of 3 stags in Vegas in 18 months. Maybe they leave their bords slum it at home with visiting Dubs and local housing estate wimmin?
Hmmm sounds to me like ye city lads were trying a bit of mudsharking with the local ghetto girls ;)
Quote from: INDIANA on August 18, 2015, 11:31:39 PM
Quote from: IolarCoisCuain on August 18, 2015, 09:26:01 PM
This game could be played on the Strawberry Beds that sweep down to the Liffey, reffed by Mrs Brown and have Brush Shields sing a few songs at half-time and Mayo would still wipe the floor with Dublin.
One of the Dubs remarked earlier (and I'm sorry I can't namecheck you, but I haven't the time to go looking back) that it was unfair to attribute Dublin's recent success to the millions spent and the home advantage thing and all the rest. He's correct. Dublin have always had home advantage, have always had more, ahem, resources than other counties and all the rest. But it's only now that they've started to really dominate the landscape.
There are two reasons for this. The first is the failure of any other Leinster team to mount even a token resistance. But the second is that the current Dublin team are blessed with players of not alone outstanding talent, but talent that's ideally suited to the modern game. Stephen Cluxton and Michael Dara MacAuley are the players who are supremely adapted to the modern game, while Connolly would be a great on any team in any era. A child could see that.
However. If I were Jim Gavin I'm not sure I'd be one bit happy about this game. I'd be wondering just which side the hill some of my key older players are. I'd be wondering what exactly is in the belly of some of my other players. Dublin haven't played a team as physically conditioned as Mayo all summer. You can theorise about it all you like, but the theory of being hit by Colm Boyle and the actuality of that explosive and crippling impact are two different things. How quickly will it take Dublin to adjust to that?
The other thing that isn't making news but maybe ought to is the absence of Eoghan O'Gara. O'Gara is a little like MacAuley - he's not a footballer from central casting, but he does a very specific job for Dublin, and nobody else does it quite as well. I could never quite figure out the fuss over him until I saw him live in 2013. I got it then.
But O'Gara's on the DL now. Before his traumatic trip outside the M50, over which the nation naturally weeps, Indiana made a valuable point here about what Dublin would lose in putting Connolly inside in terms of another target for Cluxton. You may also have read Jim McGuinness's thoughts in today's Irish Times about how Cluxton can get a little jittery if the kickouts aren't quite going his way. Dublin need Connolly out the field but if he's out the field, who'll be the O'Gara-esque bull in the china shop on the edge of the square?
This has been an excellent Dublin generation, without question their best since the 70s. Which generation was better is a harder question, for another thread. But I'm afraid, my metropolitan friends, that the End is Near. It's coming from the West on swift wings, and desolation comes with it. Best to brace yourselves now, while you still have time. If you're heading west again between now and then Indiana, give Ballina a skip and head for Knock. Catch a few novenas. Stock up on the rosary beads, just in case.
Up Mayo.
100 percent agreed. Exceptional post
Agree. Reassuring to see a perspective that is not suspicious and fatalistic as mine is. Hope you've nailed it Iolar. You,re judgement is usually sound.
Quote from: squire_in_navy_slacks on August 18, 2015, 11:30:31 PM
Quote from: IolarCoisCuain on August 18, 2015, 09:26:01 PM
This game could be played on the Strawberry Beds that sweep down to the Liffey, reffed by Mrs Brown and have Brush Shields sing a few songs at half-time and Mayo would still wipe the floor with Dublin.
One of the Dubs remarked earlier (and I'm sorry I can't namecheck you, but I haven't the time to go looking back) that it was unfair to attribute Dublin's recent success to the millions spent and the home advantage thing and all the rest. He's correct. Dublin have always had home advantage, have always had more, ahem, resources than other counties and all the rest. But it's only now that they've started to really dominate the landscape.
There are two reasons for this. The first is the failure of any other Leinster team to mount even a token resistance. But the second is that the current Dublin team are blessed with players of not alone outstanding talent, but talent that's ideally suited to the modern game. Stephen Cluxton and Michael Dara MacAuley are the players who are supremely adapted to the modern game, while Connolly would be a great on any team in any era. A child could see that.
However. If I were Jim Gavin I'm not sure I'd be one bit happy about this game. I'd be wondering just which side the hill some of my key older players are. I'd be wondering what exactly is in the belly of some of my other players. Dublin haven't played a team as physically conditioned as Mayo all summer. You can theorise about it all you like, but the theory of being hit by Colm Boyle and the actuality of that explosive and crippling impact are two different things. How quickly will it take Dublin to adjust to that?
The other thing that isn't making news but maybe ought to is the absence of Eoghan O'Gara. O'Gara is a little like MacAuley - he's not a footballer from central casting, but he does a very specific job for Dublin, and nobody else does it quite as well. I could never quite figure out the fuss over him until I saw him live in 2013. I got it then.
But O'Gara's on the DL now. Before his traumatic trip outside the M50, over which the nation naturally weeps, Indiana made a valuable point here about what Dublin would lose in putting Connolly inside in terms of another target for Cluxton. You may also have read Jim McGuinness's thoughts in today's Irish Times about how Cluxton can get a little jittery if the kickouts aren't quite going his way. Dublin need Connolly out the field but if he's out the field, who'll be the O'Gara-esque bull in the china shop on the edge of the square?
This has been an excellent Dublin generation, without question their best since the 70s. Which generation was better is a harder question, for another thread. But I'm afraid, my metropolitan friends, that the End is Near. It's coming from the West on swift wings, and desolation comes with it. Best to brace yourselves now, while you still have time. If you're heading west again between now and then Indiana, give Ballina a skip and head for Knock. Catch a few novenas. Stock up on the rosary beads, just in case.
Up Mayo.
I stopped at Colm Boyle, another in the guise of Aidan OMahony with the Garda hardman act
You will be quoting Donal Vaughan next ::)
Ah now! If you feel that way about Boyle then there is no way I could have a conversation with you about football at all.
Boyle is a footballer first and if his development had gone another way he could have done it at the other end of the pitch as well. In fact I ve seen him destroy teams as a forward as a young fella. Johnno could have destroyed him but he came back. Any team would have him.
Quote from: INDIANA on August 18, 2015, 05:55:21 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on August 18, 2015, 10:18:51 AM
Quote from: Hound on August 18, 2015, 07:17:17 AM
Wow. Whingefest meets Cringefest
Quote from: moysider on August 18, 2015, 12:28:09 AM
The notion that CP is some kind of Mecca or Taj Mahal is way off the mark also. It's already a crumbling pigeon sanctuary, that was never completed and is poorly serviced by public transport. In a part of a city very difficult to reach.
Yeah, a place within a short walk of Connolly Station and Bus Aras is very difficult to reach!
But at least it puts the rest of your posts in context
We wouldn't feel safe walking through all the kn**ker's and junkies around there
Funny felt the same last time I walked around Ballina with all the itinerants. You should feel right at home then so
Nail on the head there, Ballina is full of itinerants and Dublin full of junkies and knackers, most of them posting here!!
I'm glad I only have to pass through either occasionally!
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on August 19, 2015, 12:17:44 AM
Quote from: INDIANA on August 18, 2015, 05:55:21 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on August 18, 2015, 10:18:51 AM
Quote from: Hound on August 18, 2015, 07:17:17 AM
Wow. Whingefest meets Cringefest
Quote from: moysider on August 18, 2015, 12:28:09 AM
The notion that CP is some kind of Mecca or Taj Mahal is way off the mark also. It's already a crumbling pigeon sanctuary, that was never completed and is poorly serviced by public transport. In a part of a city very difficult to reach.
Yeah, a place within a short walk of Connolly Station and Bus Aras is very difficult to reach!
But at least it puts the rest of your posts in context
We wouldn't feel safe walking through all the kn**ker's and junkies around there
Funny felt the same last time I walked around Ballina with all the itinerants. You should feel right at home then so
Nail on the head there, Ballina is full of itinerants and Dublin full of junkies and knackers, most of them posting here!!
I'm glad I only have to pass through either occasionally!
Goes without saying you do come across as living in the closet alright.
You remind me of one of these young Gards that come to work in Dublin from the arsehole of nowhere. They'd get stage fright unless they'd a bit of livestock to talk to
Well I am a farmer, it's a way of life outside of Dublin, ask Farr and Moy there
Its difficult to see us winning this one, unfortunately
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on August 19, 2015, 12:35:50 AM
Its difficult to see us winning this one, unfortunately
The stars have aligned. Have faith.
Quote from: INDIANA on August 19, 2015, 12:40:33 AM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on August 19, 2015, 12:35:50 AM
Its difficult to see us winning this one, unfortunately
The stars have aligned. Have faith.
The Dubs are just a better team than us IMO especially in the forwards
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on August 19, 2015, 12:42:40 AM
Quote from: INDIANA on August 19, 2015, 12:40:33 AM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on August 19, 2015, 12:35:50 AM
Its difficult to see us winning this one, unfortunately
The stars have aligned. Have faith.
The Dubs are just a better team than us IMO especially in the forwards
Those forwards have never been up Croagh Patrick before . The reeks was cancelled. The Gods have spoken . It's the year of Mayo.
Must book my ticket for the 20th to the after party . Might go back to that nightclub in Ballina
Iolar is correct.
The Dubs are really feeling the pressure.
Why did Jim Gavin feel the need for all those media interviews yesterday?
Are the Dublin P.R staff on the rampage and trying to counter the Jim McGuinness article? If that's the case the vibe from the Dublin camp is not good at all.
Quote from: highorlow on August 19, 2015, 09:54:03 AM
Iolar is correct.
The Dubs are really feeling the pressure.
Why did Jim Gavin feel the need for all those media interviews yesterday?
Are the Dublin P.R staff on the rampage and trying to counter the Jim McGuinness article? If that's the case the vibe from the Dublin camp is not good at all.
I'd imagine the Gavin interviews are from the press evening for the semi-final. Mayo had theirs the other evening as well. It seems the media are more interested in this game than the Kerry v Tyrone one this weekend, and of course Dublin always gets a huge media coverage on any utterance (e.g. MDMA a couple of weeks ago).
Quote from: IolarCoisCuain on August 18, 2015, 09:26:01 PM
This game could be played on the Strawberry Beds that sweep down to the Liffey, reffed by Mrs Brown and have Brush Shields sing a few songs at half-time and Mayo would still wipe the floor with Dublin.
One of the Dubs remarked earlier (and I'm sorry I can't namecheck you, but I haven't the time to go looking back) that it was unfair to attribute Dublin's recent success to the millions spent and the home advantage thing and all the rest. He's correct. Dublin have always had home advantage, have always had more, ahem, resources than other counties and all the rest. But it's only now that they've started to really dominate the landscape.
There are two reasons for this. The first is the failure of any other Leinsteur team to mount even a token resistance. But the second is that the current Dublin team are blessed with players of not alone outstanding talent, but talent that's ideally suited to the modern game. Stephen Cluxton and Michael Dara MacAuley are the players who are supremely adapted to the modern game, while Connolly would be a great on any team in any era. A child could see that.
However. If I were Jim Gavin I'm not sure I'd be one bit happy about this game. I'd be wondering just which side the hill some of my key older players are. I'd be wondering what exactly is in the belly of some of my other players. Dublin haven't played a team as physically conditioned as Mayo all summer. You can theorise about it all you like, but the theory of being hit by Colm Boyle and the actuality of that explosive and crippling impact are two different things. How quickly will it take Dublin to adjust to that?
The other thing that isn't making news but maybe ought to is the absence of Eoghan O'Gara. O'Gara is a little like MacAuley - he's not a footballer from central casting, but he does a very specific job for Dublin, and nobody else does it quite as well. I could never quite figure out the fuss over him until I saw him live in 2013. I got it then.
But O'Gara's on the DL now. Before his traumatic trip outside the M50, over which the nation naturally weeps, Indiana made a valuable point here about what Dublin would lose in putting Connolly inside in terms of another target for Cluxton. You may also have read Jim McGuinness's thoughts in today's Irish Times about how Cluxton can get a little jittery if the kickouts aren't quite going his way. Dublin need Connolly out the field but if he's out the field, who'll be the O'Gara-esque bull in the china shop on the edge of the square?
This has been an excellent Dublin generation, without question their best since the 70s. Which generation was better is a harder question, for another thread. But I'm afraid, my metropolitan friends, that the End is Near. It's coming from the West on swift wings, and desolation comes with it. Best to brace yourselves now, while you still have time. If you're heading west again between now and then Indiana, give Ballina a skip and head for Knock. Catch a few novenas. Stock up on the rosary beads, just in case.
Up Mayo.
A very well written piece but full of conjecture.
There are so many ways that this game can pan out. What if the Dubs come out like tigers and if Mayo realise early in the game that the the expectations of their fans are just too high? What if it becomes clear that the result against Donegal was an aberration and that Mayo's true capabilities are closer to their league performance against the Dubs rather than anything they produced in the championship?
What if every training ground strategm crumbles before Mayo's eyes? Will the ghosts of 2013 join forces with the Dubs on the field and crush Mayo's resolve?
More conjecture I know, but as likely as any other. ;)
COYBIB
Perhaps Iolar is correct, but Mayo haven't met a team with the capacity to break at speed as fast as Dublin. Another worry is that Dublin may be feelung pressure, but they most likely will manage to deal with it. Mayo, hopefully will have another trick up their sleeve, but Barry Moran may be the only one. If that's the case, I'd imagine Dublin to have their homework done on how to countwr it.
I see Cunniffe and Clarke are both likely to be fit for the SF which is good news.
What's the story with Regan, is he back training yet or what??
Dublin's All Ireland to lose
Quote from: macdanger2 on August 19, 2015, 11:46:41 AM
I see Cunniffe and Clarke are both likely to be fit for the SF which is good news.
What's the story with Regan, is he back training yet or what??
Scored 0-8 for the Stephenites at the weekend. Bench last day too.
Quote from: Farrandeelin on August 19, 2015, 01:30:44 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on August 19, 2015, 11:46:41 AM
I see Cunniffe and Clarke are both likely to be fit for the SF which is good news.
What's the story with Regan, is he back training yet or what??
Scored 0-8 for the Stephenites at the weekend. Bench last day too.
Up the pecking order now that Conroy is gone.
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on August 19, 2015, 12:22:01 AM
Well I am a farmer, it's a way of life outside of Dublin, ask Farr and Moy there
Allow me despite your I.Q of a fencepost status;living in a closet counting the same pair of goat over and over again to make sure their all still there for eternity does not `dear Hayseed`make one a man of animal or any other type of husbandry.Ask Farr and Moy there what?do they hold your handies or something,/head up to the side of the road Knockmore closet no.1 and clean out and change up your hay for ya.The fact that Ballina and Dublin accept a large proportion from miles around of junkies,tinkers,candlestick makers mad Dubs on the tear,hen parties gone wild only bares witness to the fine libertarian values of both great cities 8) and even to a tolerance of dimwit closeted people like you!"Its safe" ya know.
Quote from: Farrandeelin on August 19, 2015, 01:30:44 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on August 19, 2015, 11:46:41 AM
I see Cunniffe and Clarke are both likely to be fit for the SF which is good news.
What's the story with Regan, is he back training yet or what??
Scored 0-8 for the Stephenites at the weekend. Bench last day too.
7 of them from frees I believe. Let's not bestow greatness yet on a lad that has played around 5 mins senior inter-county football.
Was at the match, Evan looked dangerous in the first half when Ballina had the pull in the Middle of the Field. He missed four frees and kicked one good point from play. He kicked some very good frees from the wrong side for him. He seems to have bulked up. When Garry took over the Midfield he looked very ordinary when 50/50 ball went in. He could be an option off the bench alright.
Quote from: REDCOL on August 19, 2015, 02:32:09 PM
Was at the match, Evan looked dangerous in the first half when Ballina had the pull in the Middle of the Field. He missed four frees and kicked one good point from play. He kicked some very good frees from the wrong side for him. He seems to have bulked up. When Garry took over the Midfield he looked very ordinary when 50/50 ball went in. He could be an option off the bench alright.
Ya, could be a wild card off the bench. Natural left footed free taker is always a bonus when you'd have Cillian off his right.
Quote from: cuconnacht on August 19, 2015, 02:03:51 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on August 19, 2015, 12:22:01 AM
Well I am a farmer, it's a way of life outside of Dublin, ask Farr and Moy there
Allow me despite your I.Q of a fencepost status;living in a closet counting the same pair of goat over and over again to make sure their all still there for eternity does not `dear Hayseed`make one a man of animal or any other type of husbandry.Ask Farr and Moy there what?do they hold your handies or something,/head up to the side of the road Knockmore closet no.1 and clean out and change up your hay for ya.The fact that Ballina and Dublin accept a large proportion from miles around of junkies,tinkers,candlestick makers mad Dubs on the tear,hen parties gone wild only bares witness to the fine libertarian values of both great cities 8) and even to a tolerance of dimwit closeted people like you!"Its safe" ya know.
Jaysus, are you always this tetchy??
Quote from: INDIANA on August 19, 2015, 12:20:13 AM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on August 19, 2015, 12:17:44 AM
Quote from: INDIANA on August 18, 2015, 05:55:21 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on August 18, 2015, 10:18:51 AM
Quote from: Hound on August 18, 2015, 07:17:17 AM
Wow. Whingefest meets Cringefest
Quote from: moysider on August 18, 2015, 12:28:09 AM
The notion that CP is some kind of Mecca or Taj Mahal is way off the mark also. It's already a crumbling pigeon sanctuary, that was never completed and is poorly serviced by public transport. In a part of a city very difficult to reach.
Yeah, a place within a short walk of Connolly Station and Bus Aras is very difficult to reach!
But at least it puts the rest of your posts in context
We wouldn't feel safe walking through all the kn**ker's and junkies around there
Funny felt the same last time I walked around Ballina with all the itinerants. You should feel right at home then so
Nail on the head there, Ballina is full of itinerants and Dublin full of junkies and knackers, most of them posting here!!
I'm glad I only have to pass through either occasionally!
Goes without saying you do come across as living in the closet alright.
You remind me of one of these young Gards that come to work in Dublin from the arsehole of nowhere. They'd get stage fright unless they'd a bit of livestock to talk to
Seriously lads? Is this what ye are at now? Cop on the whole lot of ye.
Jesus, sounds like Ziggy is well p*ssed ;D
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on August 19, 2015, 02:44:48 PM
Quote from: cuconnacht on August 19, 2015, 02:03:51 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on August 19, 2015, 12:22:01 AM
Well I am a farmer, it's a way of life outside of Dublin, ask Farr and Moy there
Allow me despite your I.Q of a fencepost status;living in a closet counting the same pair of goat over and over again to make sure their all still there for eternity does not `dear Hayseed`make one a man of animal or any other type of husbandry.Ask Farr and Moy there what?do they hold your handies or something,/head up to the side of the road Knockmore closet no.1 and clean out and change up your hay for ya.The fact that Ballina and Dublin accept a large proportion from miles around of junkies,tinkers,candlestick makers mad Dubs on the tear,hen parties gone wild only bares witness to the fine libertarian values of both great cities 8) and even to a tolerance of dimwit closeted people like you!"Its safe" ya know.
Jaysus, are you always this tetchy??
No,not always,but as the clock ticks down to T.O, I get a tad nervous,as the name suggests I want unity of county at least and conspiring with the opposition in denigrating any part of the Green above the Red is tantamount to treason and has to called out.Added to the big game pressure,my dear wife of many moons (especially over the last cupla years)is a wait for it...a Dubbbbb!God help us.And don't tell me `endeavour to percevere`,done`that, don't work.In the words of the great Cicero "Dublin must be Destroyed"
or im done for! ;D
Quote from: macdanger2 on August 19, 2015, 03:07:06 PM
Jesus, sounds like Ziggy is well p*ssed ;D
Course he is,still stuck atop of the Reek in his customized John Browne,told him it was a bad idea!
Quote from: Gaaboardmod3 on August 19, 2015, 02:46:40 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on August 19, 2015, 12:20:13 AM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on August 19, 2015, 12:17:44 AM
Quote from: INDIANA on August 18, 2015, 05:55:21 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on August 18, 2015, 10:18:51 AM
Quote from: Hound on August 18, 2015, 07:17:17 AM
Wow. Whingefest meets Cringefest
Quote from: moysider on August 18, 2015, 12:28:09 AM
The notion that CP is some kind of Mecca or Taj Mahal is way off the mark also. It's already a crumbling pigeon sanctuary, that was never completed and is poorly serviced by public transport. In a part of a city very difficult to reach.
Yeah, a place within a short walk of Connolly Station and Bus Aras is very difficult to reach!
But at least it puts the rest of your posts in context
We wouldn't feel safe walking through all the kn**ker's and junkies around there
Funny felt the same last time I walked around Ballina with all the itinerants. You should feel right at home then so
Nail on the head there, Ballina is full of itinerants and Dublin full of junkies and knackers, most of them posting here!!
I'm glad I only have to pass through either occasionally!
Goes without saying you do come across as living in the closet alright.
You remind me of one of these young Gards that come to work in Dublin from the arsehole of nowhere. They'd get stage fright unless they'd a bit of livestock to talk to
Seriously lads? Is this what ye are at now? Cop on the whole lot of ye.
Are you for real? You've ignored all the shi*e for the last year from the Laois trolls and you react to this post??
Quote from: heffo on August 19, 2015, 06:50:47 PM
Quote from: Gaaboardmod3 on August 19, 2015, 02:46:40 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on August 19, 2015, 12:20:13 AM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on August 19, 2015, 12:17:44 AM
Quote from: INDIANA on August 18, 2015, 05:55:21 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on August 18, 2015, 10:18:51 AM
Quote from: Hound on August 18, 2015, 07:17:17 AM
Wow. Whingefest meets Cringefest
Quote from: moysider on August 18, 2015, 12:28:09 AM
The notion that CP is some kind of Mecca or Taj Mahal is way off the mark also. It's already a crumbling pigeon sanctuary, that was never completed and is poorly serviced by public transport. In a part of a city very difficult to reach.
Yeah, a place within a short walk of Connolly Station and Bus Aras is very difficult to reach!
But at least it puts the rest of your posts in context
We wouldn't feel safe walking through all the kn**ker's and junkies around there
Funny felt the same last time I walked around Ballina with all the itinerants. You should feel right at home then so
Nail on the head there, Ballina is full of itinerants and Dublin full of junkies and knackers, most of them posting here!!
I'm glad I only have to pass through either occasionally!
Goes without saying you do come across as living in the closet alright.
You remind me of one of these young Gards that come to work in Dublin from the arsehole of nowhere. They'd get stage fright unless they'd a bit of livestock to talk to
Seriously lads? Is this what ye are at now? Cop on the whole lot of ye.
Are you for real? You've ignored all the shi*e for the last year from the Laois trolls and you react to this post??
Don't forget the poison hatred that "don't matter Leo Turley" spewed across every bloody topic too.
Would be nice to get to talk about the football for a change without the joe .ie poetry aswell, I was there in 1967 and all that shite ::) ::)
Quote from: squire_in_navy_slacks on August 19, 2015, 06:58:02 PM
Quote from: heffo on August 19, 2015, 06:50:47 PM
Quote from: Gaaboardmod3 on August 19, 2015, 02:46:40 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on August 19, 2015, 12:20:13 AM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on August 19, 2015, 12:17:44 AM
Quote from: INDIANA on August 18, 2015, 05:55:21 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on August 18, 2015, 10:18:51 AM
Quote from: Hound on August 18, 2015, 07:17:17 AM
Wow. Whingefest meets Cringefest
Quote from: moysider on August 18, 2015, 12:28:09 AM
The notion that CP is some kind of Mecca or Taj Mahal is way off the mark also. It's already a crumbling pigeon sanctuary, that was never completed and is poorly serviced by public transport. In a part of a city very difficult to reach.
Yeah, a place within a short walk of Connolly Station and Bus Aras is very difficult to reach!
But at least it puts the rest of your posts in context
We wouldn't feel safe walking through all the kn**ker's and junkies around there
Funny felt the same last time I walked around Ballina with all the itinerants. You should feel right at home then so
Nail on the head there, Ballina is full of itinerants and Dublin full of junkies and knackers, most of them posting here!!
I'm glad I only have to pass through either occasionally!
Goes without saying you do come across as living in the closet alright.
You remind me of one of these young Gards that come to work in Dublin from the arsehole of nowhere. They'd get stage fright unless they'd a bit of livestock to talk to
Seriously lads? Is this what ye are at now? Cop on the whole lot of ye.
Are you for real? You've ignored all the shi*e for the last year from the Laois trolls and you react to this post??
Don't forget the poison hatred that "don't matter Leo Turley" spewed across every bloody topic too.
Would be nice to get to talk about the football for a change without the joe .ie poetry aswell, I was there in 1967 and all that shite ::) ::)
Who won?
I thought I heard someone call my name.
I don't know why the Dubs must abuse me so much, I never post anything bad about them, only facts about their huge advantages they have. Them being all the monies and the games at home and all that. I've also mentioned all the monies other counties have, like Mayo and Kerry. They don't seem to hold any grudges against me for it. Also I've said many times now that I don't know who don't matter is. Why are the Dubs so touchy about all the money they get from all of us and others? Maybe they realise that they're competing unfairly but instead of admitting it they strike out in anger.
Anyway, back to the topic at hand. That being 2 of the most highly financed teams ever to grace a GAA pitch facing eachother in an All Ireland semi final. Who'll win? Probably the home team.
Quote from: Gaaboardmod3 on August 19, 2015, 02:46:40 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on August 19, 2015, 12:20:13 AM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on August 19, 2015, 12:17:44 AM
Quote from: INDIANA on August 18, 2015, 05:55:21 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on August 18, 2015, 10:18:51 AM
Quote from: Hound on August 18, 2015, 07:17:17 AM
Wow. Whingefest meets Cringefest
Quote from: moysider on August 18, 2015, 12:28:09 AM
The notion that CP is some kind of Mecca or Taj Mahal is way off the mark also. It's already a crumbling pigeon sanctuary, that was never completed and is poorly serviced by public transport. In a part of a city very difficult to reach.
Yeah, a place within a short walk of Connolly Station and Bus Aras is very difficult to reach!
But at least it puts the rest of your posts in context
We wouldn't feel safe walking through all the kn**ker's and junkies around there
Funny felt the same last time I walked around Ballina with all the itinerants. You should feel right at home then so
Nail on the head there, Ballina is full of itinerants and Dublin full of junkies and knackers, most of them posting here!!
I'm glad I only have to pass through either occasionally!
Goes without saying you do come across as living in the closet alright.
You remind me of one of these young Gards that come to work in Dublin from the arsehole of nowhere. They'd get stage fright unless they'd a bit of livestock to talk to
Seriously lads? Is this what ye are at now? Cop on the whole lot of ye.
I blame the Tyrone posters.
Kevin Keane's red card downgraded to yellow by the CHC this evening, he's now available for selection for the semi.
Quote from: bucko on August 19, 2015, 10:34:21 PM
Kevin Keane's red card downgraded to yellow by the CHC this evening, he's now available for selection for the semi.
Excellent news-right decision
Quote from: bucko on August 19, 2015, 10:34:21 PM
Kevin Keane's red card downgraded to yellow by the CHC this evening, he's now available for selection for the semi.
Good news.
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Quote from: bucko on August 19, 2015, 10:34:21 PM
Kevin Keane's red card downgraded to yellow by the CHC this evening, he's now available for selection for the semi.
Good news.
Its getting to be like a Take That song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KII1ruAfvsg
Quote from: bucko on August 19, 2015, 10:34:21 PM
Kevin Keane's red card downgraded to yellow by the CHC this evening, he's now available for selection for the semi.
I hear Greece has appealed the size of their National Debt to the CHC tonight!
My money is that it will definitely be down-graded.
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Quote from: moysider on August 19, 2015, 10:41:47 PM
Quote from: bucko on August 19, 2015, 10:34:21 PM
Kevin Keane's red card downgraded to yellow by the CHC this evening, he's now available for selection for the semi.
Good news.
Its getting to be like a Take That song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KII1ruAfvsg
What is?
Quote from: whitey on August 19, 2015, 10:38:36 PM
Quote from: bucko on August 19, 2015, 10:34:21 PM
Kevin Keane's red card downgraded to yellow by the CHC this evening, he's now available for selection for the semi.
Excellent news-right decision
Thats a joke. So a yellow card now for punching someone in the face.
Downgraded? Since when do cards get 'downgraded' obvious red card, clear as day light IMO bullish*t decision
Quote from: Rodman on August 19, 2015, 11:46:58 PM
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Quote from: bucko on August 19, 2015, 10:34:21 PM
Kevin Keane's red card downgraded to yellow by the CHC this evening, he's now available for selection for the semi.
Excellent news-right decision
Thats a joke. So a yellow card now for punching someone in the face.
The joke was that there was a card of any description. Silly stuff but a Ref looking to be fussy and put us in our place like we ve got used to referees doing down the years.
No more than the Keegan card last year in a crucial game (and a call that decided that semi ultimately) where we got another red card because of Donacha Walsh's well rehearsed dancing hissy fit to make a mountain out of a molehill. The same player (Walsh) is still getting away with cheap borderline shite himself. Murphy ( a top player imo) played on the edge all year and got a ridiculous yellow v a dramatic reaction from Sice. But he was ott at end of Mayo game. Keane was right to get him out of his face and used minimum contact in the circumstances. If there was a card going there Murphy should have got it. Keane or Mayo in general were not looking for hassle at that stage. Yet another ref. ( very good rep. it has to be said) that I would not trust referring an important game of ours.
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Quote from: bucko on August 19, 2015, 10:34:21 PM
Kevin Keane's red card downgraded to yellow by the CHC this evening, he's now available for selection for the semi.
Excellent news-right decision
Thats a joke. So a yellow card now for punching someone in the face.
The joke was that there was a card of any description. Silly stuff but a Ref looking to be fussy and put us in our place like we ve got used to referees doing down the years.
No more than the Keegan card last year in a crucial game (and a call that decided that semi ultimately) where we got another red card because of Donacha Walsh's well rehearsed dancing hissy fit to make a mountain out of a molehill. The same player (Walsh) is still getting away with cheap borderline shite himself. Murphy ( a top player imo) played on the edge all year and got a ridiculous yellow v a dramatic reaction from Sice. But he was ott at end of Mayo game. Keane was right to get him out of his face and used minimum contact in the circumstances. If there was a card going there Murphy should have got it. Keane or Mayo in general were not looking for hassle at that stage. Yet another ref. ( very good rep. it has to be said) that I would not trust referring an important game of ours.
Regardless, he still punched murphy in the face. Thats a red card , i really can't see how that was downgraded or why it was even appealed against. So the GAA are sending out a message that punching in the face is a yellow card - must try it out the next game i play. Ridiculous decision. The GAA are loosing the plot.
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Quote from: bucko on August 19, 2015, 10:34:21 PM
Kevin Keane's red card downgraded to yellow by the CHC this evening, he's now available for selection for the semi.
I hear Greece has appealed the size of their National Debt to the CHC tonight!
My money is that it will definitely be down-graded.
CHC up there with Moody's and Standards and Poors now.....
Crap decision. It was a punch to the face, deserved a red card. Just because Murphy didn't hit the deck doesn't mean it was a lesser offense. These sort of decisions only encourage diving. I hope it backfires like it did last year when Keegan had a stinker in the replay and Mayo lost. Mayo doing this is as bad as McCann's diving.
Very good news that Keane's red card was downgraded. GAA justice served, the provocation was red card stuff, the reaction by Keane was yellow card.
Quote from: blanketattack on August 20, 2015, 12:27:00 AM
Crap decision. It was a punch to the face, deserved a red card. Just because Murphy didn't hit the deck doesn't mean it was a lesser offense. These sort of decisions only encourage diving. I hope it backfires like it did last year when Keegan had a stinker in the replay and Mayo lost. Mayo doing this is as bad as McCann's diving.
I don t remember Keane diving at all when Murphy had a go at him.
Quote from: blanketattack on August 20, 2015, 12:27:00 AM
Crap decision. It was a punch to the face, deserved a red card. Just because Murphy didn't hit the deck doesn't mean it was a lesser offense. These sort of decisions only encourage diving. I hope it backfires like it did last year when Keegan had a stinker in the replay and Mayo lost. Mayo doing this is as bad as McCann's diving.
;D ;D ;D
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Greatest skill in football
Being able to give your man a belt without being spotted by the umpires, linesmen or ref..
Any word on why the red card was rescinded?
Quote from: Jell 0 Biafra on August 20, 2015, 12:58:30 AM
Any word on why the red card was rescinded?
Because the hurling committee were on tonight.
Quote from: Jell 0 Biafra on August 20, 2015, 12:58:30 AM
Any word on why the red card was rescinded?
The ref wrote "OK" in his report in the section marked "For official use only, do not write below this line."
Quote from: blanketattack on August 20, 2015, 01:07:30 AM
Quote from: Jell 0 Biafra on August 20, 2015, 12:58:30 AM
Any word on why the red card was rescinded?
The ref wrote "OK" in his report in the section marked "For official use only, do not write below this line."
;D
Quote from: moysider on August 20, 2015, 12:10:04 AM
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Quote from: bucko on August 19, 2015, 10:34:21 PM
Kevin Keane's red card downgraded to yellow by the CHC this evening, he's now available for selection for the semi.
Excellent news-right decision
Thats a joke. So a yellow card now for punching someone in the face.
The joke was that there was a card of any description. Silly stuff but a Ref looking to be fussy and put us in our place like we ve got used to referees doing down the years.
No more than the Keegan card last year in a crucial game (and a call that decided that semi ultimately) where we got another red card because of Donacha Walsh's well rehearsed dancing hissy fit to make a mountain out of a molehill. The same player (Walsh) is still getting away with cheap borderline shite himself. Murphy ( a top player imo) played on the edge all year and got a ridiculous yellow v a dramatic reaction from Sice. But he was ott at end of Mayo game. Keane was right to get him out of his face and used minimum contact in the circumstances. If there was a card going there Murphy should have got it. Keane or Mayo in general were not looking for hassle at that stage. Yet another ref. ( very good rep. it has to be said) that I would not trust referring an important game of ours.
Keegans red was the correct decision too, outrageous that either were overruled - striking or attempting to strike your opponent is a red card as far as I'm aware
Quote from: Jell 0 Biafra on August 20, 2015, 12:58:30 AM
Any word on why the red card was rescinded?
Like it shouldn't have been given in the first place ::) Obviously!
Straight away it was going to be turned over.
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Quote from: bucko on August 19, 2015, 10:34:21 PM
Kevin Keane's red card downgraded to yellow by the CHC this evening, he's now available for selection for the semi.
Excellent news-right decision
Thats a joke. So a yellow card now for punching someone in the face.
The joke was that there was a card of any description. Silly stuff but a Ref looking to be fussy and put us in our place like we ve got used to referees doing down the years.
No more than the Keegan card last year in a crucial game (and a call that decided that semi ultimately) where we got another red card because of Donacha Walsh's well rehearsed dancing hissy fit to make a mountain out of a molehill. The same player (Walsh) is still getting away with cheap borderline shite himself. Murphy ( a top player imo) played on the edge all year and got a ridiculous yellow v a dramatic reaction from Sice. But he was ott at end of Mayo game. Keane was right to get him out of his face and used minimum contact in the circumstances. If there was a card going there Murphy should have got it. Keane or Mayo in general were not looking for hassle at that stage. Yet another ref. ( very good rep. it has to be said) that I would not trust referring an important game of ours.
Keegans red was the correct decision too, outrageous that either were overruled - striking or attempting to strike your opponent is a red card as far as I'm aware
Hmmmm. I m disagreeing with you more and more it seems.
Yeah, Mayo have to stop reacting to shite and keep their discipline and Keegan and Keane and the rest will have to avoid this. To be a proper cynical player you do what a choir boy like Donnacha Walsh does. Wishy washy stuff but constant fouling but stays under the radar of the ref. (a brilliant skill set in itself). Then add a Richie McCaw ability to influence the ref to give decisions against the opposition and you have a very important player. Head down when you are being cynical. In the face of he ref when you want the opposition done. Not rocket science. Helps if you can dance a jig in annoyance to convince a ref.
Quote from: moysider on August 20, 2015, 01:37:27 AM
Quote from: Jell 0 Biafra on August 20, 2015, 12:58:30 AM
Any word on why the red card was rescinded?
Like it shouldn't have been given in the first place ::) Obviously!
Straight away it was going to be turned over.
You do know striking an opponent is a red card offence, right?
Quote from: Jell 0 Biafra on August 20, 2015, 02:07:10 AM
Quote from: moysider on August 20, 2015, 01:37:27 AM
Quote from: Jell 0 Biafra on August 20, 2015, 12:58:30 AM
Any word on why the red card was rescinded?
Like it shouldn't have been given in the first place ::) Obviously!
Straight away it was going to be turned over.
You do know striking an opponent is a red card offence, right?
Ahra sure it was only a little slapeen. Wouldn't even call it a dig.
Very lucky to get off, it was a slap to the face and there's no allowances made for provocation or the force of the strike and so by the letter of the law is a red card:
"Striking or attempting to strike with arm, elbow, hand, knee or head"
However, seeing as we're talking about the letter of the law, any strike (not only to the face / head) is a red card so a lot of the punches to the chest that you generally see in schmozzles are technically red card offences
QuoteVery lucky to get off, it was a slap to the face and there's no allowances made for provocation or the force of the strike and so by the letter of the law is a red card:
It is and he got a red card.
Don't no anything about the banning system / rules though. I'd imagine the committee are allowed to use common sense though.
In saying that if a red card = automatic suspension, then the referee's are getting undermined by these decisions.
Has anyone a link to the suspension rules in operation?
Regardless of whether the decision on keane last not was correct or incorrect (I think it was incorrect to rescind it), there are way too many decisions being overturned by committee. It completely undermines the referees. It just heaps more pressure on referees knowing that some virtually anonymous committee members can at the stroke of a pen completely undermine any decisions made on the field of play by the ref.
I have no problem at all with clear and obvious errors being appealed and cards being rescinded but the association should be supporting referees in the close calls insofar as possible.
The type of clear/obvious error I'm talking about are cases of mistaken identity or an obvious case of where the offence was not committed, e.g. sent off for strike but no strike took place (e.g. hughes Vs tyrone).
The closer calls e.g. Keane, & tyrone's meyler, the referee's call should be backed.
The way things are going, games will be decided in the committee rooms in the future rather than on the field of play.
And just to be clear, I'm not saying that the standard of referreeing shouldn't be improved, but we have to back referee's in the tough/close calls. IMO this will lead to more/better people taking up refereeing!
QuoteThese sort of decisions only encourage diving. I hope it backfires like it did last year when Keegan had a stinker in the replay and Mayo lost. Mayo doing this is as bad as McCann's diving.
Ah come off it. We are just using the same system that is in place for every other team.
Quote from: westbound on August 20, 2015, 09:09:31 AM
The closer calls e.g. Keane, & tyrone's meyler, the referee's call should be backed.
The way things are going, games will be decided in the committee rooms in the future rather than on the field of play.
I'd agree with that, unless the ref has made an clear error, his decision should remain intact
That said, delighted that Keane is available to play, not sure he's really suitable for any of the Dublin forwards but handy to have him available all the same.
As an aside, why did it take a week and a half to have these hearings? It's probably ok from a Mayo point of view but hardly ideal for Tyrone to be waiting on McCann's appeal until a few days before the match
What a joke. A nod and a wink gets a clear strike downgraded. It's the GAA authorities which are bringing the association into disrepute. The committees involved need to publish their reasons otherwise the current stench of corruption which lingers over this won't clear.
Have to agree with some posters. Red card all day no matter the circumstances. These committees need a shake up. I imagine a vote is taken around the table and the majority decision is taken. That's rather stupid in the face of very clear video evidence.
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Quote from: bucko on August 19, 2015, 10:34:21 PM
Kevin Keane's red card downgraded to yellow by the CHC this evening, he's now available for selection for the semi.
Excellent news-right decision
Thats a joke. So a yellow card now for punching someone in the face.
The joke was that there was a card of any description. Silly stuff but a Ref looking to be fussy and put us in our place like we ve got used to referees doing down the years.
No more than the Keegan card last year in a crucial game (and a call that decided that semi ultimately) where we got another red card because of Donacha Walsh's well rehearsed dancing hissy fit to make a mountain out of a molehill. The same player (Walsh) is still getting away with cheap borderline shite himself. Murphy ( a top player imo) played on the edge all year and got a ridiculous yellow v a dramatic reaction from Sice. But he was ott at end of Mayo game. Keane was right to get him out of his face and used minimum contact in the circumstances. If there was a card going there Murphy should have got it. Keane or Mayo in general were not looking for hassle at that stage. Yet another ref. ( very good rep. it has to be said) that I would not trust referring an important game of ours.
Keegans red was the correct decision too, outrageous that either were overruled - striking or attempting to strike your opponent is a red card as far as I'm aware
Okay, going by the rule book. Keegan earned a red card. I think it was an extremely harsh decision but rules are rules and all that.....
However, if he had turned round and given his tormentor a running kick up the arse, it would be treated in exactly the same way. There was no premeditation involved, it was the action of as petulant schoolboy more than anything else. The ref decided, when he had time to think it over, that a straight red card was an unduly harsh decision and mucked his report up. I'm being serious here, how else could an experienced ref at this level, make a c**k up of his match report?
Pathetic decision from the GAA. He punched him in the face & it's a red card offence all day long
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on August 20, 2015, 10:37:35 AM
Pathetic decision from the GAA. He punched him in the face & it's a red card offence all day long
Punch is defined as a strike with a fist....a fist is defined as fingers closed into the palm.
So he didn't punch him... ::) ;)
Quote from: ballinaman on August 20, 2015, 10:42:38 AM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on August 20, 2015, 10:37:35 AM
Pathetic decision from the GAA. He punched him in the face & it's a red card offence all day long
Punch is defined as a strike with a fist....a fist is defined as fingers closed into the palm.
So he didn't punch him... ::) ;)
It's still a ridiculous decision. Embarrassing that Mayo appealed it. I still hope they beat the Dubs though
How on earth was the Keane punch overturned when you look at some of the bans upheld this year? McCloskey for Fermanagh and McGovern are two that come to mind. Also Penrose's red two years ago was even more mild than Keane's and still got upheld.
Farcical stuff.
Keane was sent off for a strike.
Murphy Struck him twice before kevin retalialiated.
the only difference being Keane caressed the big babys face and murphy gave a couple of digs into the chest . I dont think the rules differenciate
so if you want to be a pedant Murphy should have gone as well,
Black and white does not work when it comes to refereeing
Well put rosnarun.
Quote from: rosnarun on August 20, 2015, 11:45:05 AM
Keane was sent off for a strike.
Murphy Struck him twice before kevin retalialiated.
the only difference being Keane caressed the big babys face and murphy gave a couple of digs into the chest . I dont think the rules differenciate
so if you want to be a pedant Murphy should have gone as well,
Black and white does not work when it comes to refereeing
Murphy did not strike Keane, he pushed him in the chest and grabbed his jersey.
Keane struck Murphy right on the button of the chin with a closed fist, it's a text book red card.
Quote from: ballinaman on August 20, 2015, 10:42:38 AM
Quote from: Two Hands FFS on August 20, 2015, 10:37:35 AM
Pathetic decision from the GAA. He punched him in the face & it's a red card offence all day long
Punch is defined as a strike with a fist....a fist is defined as fingers closed into the palm.
So he didn't punch him... ::) ;)
That is incorrect. In the rule book it is striking with the hand. It doesn't mention open or closed hand. There is
no rule for striking with the fist.
Quote from: rosnarun on August 20, 2015, 11:45:05 AM
Keane was sent off for a strike.
Murphy Struck him twice before kevin retalialiated.
the only difference being Keane caressed the big babys face and murphy gave a couple of digs into the chest . I dont think the rules differenciate
so if you want to be a pedant Murphy should have gone as well,
Black and white does not work when it comes to refereeing
Regardless of what went on before, if Keane struck or attempted to strike (he did strike!) it is a sending off offence.
If you think Murphy should also get a suspension that it a different matter (I don't think he should!)
One of the problems with GAA discipline at this time of year is the disproportionate effect of bans.
For example, a team on their way out of the championship can begin to lose their composure, as Monaghan did and maybe surprisingly, Michael Murphy did. But the rules are different for the team playing them. A card for Murphy or Monaghan at that stage is irrelevant. But a card for their opponents could be crucial.
And to show I am trying not to be biased, Cillian got a red at the end of the replay last year in Limerick. It made no difference to us then, but if we had been winning it would have meant he missed the final. I seriously doubt he would have risked a red card if we were winning.
We tend to have sympathy for the team about to lose, even if they go overboard. But is this fair to their opponents who must desperately try not to respond?
Quote from: muppet on August 20, 2015, 01:15:27 PM
One of the problems with GAA discipline at this time of year is the disproportionate effect of bans.
For example, a team on their way out of the championship can begin to lose their composure, as Monaghan did and maybe surprisingly, Michael Murphy did. But the rules are different for the team playing them. A card for Murphy or Monaghan at that stage is irrelevant. But a card for their opponents could be crucial.
And to show I am trying not to be biased, Cillian got a red at the end of the replay last year in Limerick. It made no difference to us then, but if we had been winning it would have meant he missed the final. I seriously doubt he would have risked a red card if we were winning.
We tend to have sympathy for the team about to lose, even if they go overboard. But is this fair to their opponents who must desperately try not to respond?
The biggest problem is the lack of consistency. If a Dublin footballer did that and got off there would be a thread a mile long with half the Mayo posters here petitioning Enda Kenny to intervene.
You get consistency by having clearly defined rules - a strike is a strike. Both should have been sent off for straight reds end of story.
Diarmuid Connolly got sent off for something very similar in the 2011 semi against Donegal and that card was overturned before the final.
Quote from: Oyam on August 20, 2015, 02:39:40 PM
Diarmuid Connolly got sent off for something very similar in the 2011 semi against Donegal and that card was overturned before the final.
Correct. The referee had apparently failed to follow the correct protocol in the sending off. So Connolly got off on a technicality, not on the idea that "sure he only gave him a bit of a tap."
That was why I was asking if anyone knew what the basis was for rescinding Keane's red card.
from the Rule book
not sure why people are referring to the Fact it Was a fist in the Rules only hand is mentioned and no mention is made with it is to the body or Face,
Technicaly Both should have gone but in the real world neither should have been sent off
from the rule book
Immediate Ordering Off Infractions (Red Cards)
1. Striking or attempting to strike with arm, elbow, hand, knee or head.
2. Kicking or attempting to kick with minimal force or with force or causing injury.
3. Behaving in any way which is dangerous to an opponent.
4. Spitting at an opponent.
5. Contributing to a melee.
6. Stamping.
7. Inflicting injury recklessly.
8. Abusive language towards a Referee, Umpire, Linesman or Sideline Official.
Quote from: Oyam on August 20, 2015, 02:39:40 PM
Diarmuid Connolly got sent off for something very similar in the 2011 semi against Donegal and that card was overturned before the final.
Go to 9:57 on this link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtnJPTENOKk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtnJPTENOKk)
Kevin Keane did much the same with an open hand. Technically is it a red. That red and reversal of the free could have cost Dublin the All-Ireland in 2011. I suspect Donaghy's 'simulation' might have persuaded the ref to ignore it.
My point is not to highlight Brennan's or Donaghy's rule breaking, but to show that our games can come down to very tight calls that the refs really have very little chance to get right.
If the incident above was reffed by 10 different refs you might have had any of the following scenarios:
* yellow card to Brennan - free to Kerry
* yellow to Donaghy for simulation, red to Brennan - free to Kerry
* yellow to Donaghy for simulation, red to Brennan - throw ball
* red to Brennan - free to Kerry
* yellow to Donaghy - free to Dublin
And possibly more.
To be fair to the ref I think he did well and throwing the ball up was correct, but I think he could have been showing cards. If there was a replay those cards could have been crucial.
With video evidence and a TMO it might have been a lot easier, but of course it would disrupt the flow of the game. And given the way some counties play, we would spend most of the day waiting for the TMO.
Maybe we could do it like the Tennis. Maybe each team gets a maximum number (say 3) of TMO reviews per half for defined categories of incident?
Quote from: rosnarun on August 20, 2015, 03:24:38 PM
from the Rule book
not sure why people are referring to the Fact it Was a fist in the Rules only hand is mentioned and no mention is made with it is to the body or Face,
Technicaly Both should have gone but in the real world neither should have been sent off
from the rule book
Immediate Ordering Off Infractions (Red Cards)
1. Striking or attempting to strike with arm, elbow, hand, knee or head.
2. Kicking or attempting to kick with minimal force or with force or causing injury.
3. Behaving in any way which is dangerous to an opponent.
4. Spitting at an opponent.
5. Contributing to a melee.
6. Stamping.
7. Inflicting injury recklessly.
8. Abusive language towards a Referee, Umpire, Linesman or Sideline Official.
Keegan was sent off last year for 2 above under the attempting to kick rule.
Donnacha Walsh should have gone for the worst fake tantrum to get a man sent off ever seen rule.
Quote from: Oyam on August 20, 2015, 02:39:40 PM
Diarmuid Connolly got sent off for something very similar in the 2011 semi against Donegal and that card was overturned before the final.
Diarmuid got off because deegan never noted it in his notebook. So unfortunately fellas the last 5/6 posts on this are absolutely redundant. He didn't get it overturned for the strike- he got it overturned on a technicality otherwise he hadn't a leg to stand on and would have missed the AI Final
Quote from: rosnarun on August 20, 2015, 03:24:38 PM
from the Rule book
not sure why people are referring to the Fact it Was a fist in the Rules only hand is mentioned and no mention is made with it is to the body or Face,
Technicaly Both should have gone but in the real world neither should have been sent off
from the rule book
Immediate Ordering Off Infractions (Red Cards)
1. Striking or attempting to strike with arm, elbow, hand, knee or head.
2. Kicking or attempting to kick with minimal force or with force or causing injury.
3. Behaving in any way which is dangerous to an opponent.
4. Spitting at an opponent.
5. Contributing to a melee.
6. Stamping.
7. Inflicting injury recklessly.
8. Abusive language towards a Referee, Umpire, Linesman or Sideline Official.
You do realise there's a difference between a strike, a grab and a push.
Murphy PUSHES Keane in the chest and then GRABS a hold of his jersey. Keane punches Murphy on the butt of his chin.
You know those doors with no handles and the small metal push sign? Do you strike them open?
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on August 20, 2015, 04:07:44 PM
Quote from: rosnarun on August 20, 2015, 03:24:38 PM
from the Rule book
not sure why people are referring to the Fact it Was a fist in the Rules only hand is mentioned and no mention is made with it is to the body or Face,
Technicaly Both should have gone but in the real world neither should have been sent off
from the rule book
Immediate Ordering Off Infractions (Red Cards)
1. Striking or attempting to strike with arm, elbow, hand, knee or head.
2. Kicking or attempting to kick with minimal force or with force or causing injury.
3. Behaving in any way which is dangerous to an opponent.
4. Spitting at an opponent.
5. Contributing to a melee.
6. Stamping.
7. Inflicting injury recklessly.
8. Abusive language towards a Referee, Umpire, Linesman or Sideline Official.
You do realise there's a difference between a strike, a grab and a push.
Murphy PUSHES Keane in the chest and then GRABS a hold of his jersey. Keane punches Murphy on the butt of his chin.
You know those doors with no handles and the small metal push sign? Do you strike them open?
Is that not the right way?
Posters will sit and analyse his strike all day, but the ruling is made and he is proven innocent (in the eyes of the GAA and that's all that counts!). That's the way.
Keanes strike was/is a Red Card offence. No doubt! Mayo as is their right contested the decision and the verdict swung our way. And do we care what anyone thinks?
No! but this comes with a caveat.
Personally I'd rather the Red stayed. Referees don't like to be undermined and they are a closely net bunch. Better to take you medicine and move on, especially with a squad player. An over turned decision can lead to the refereeing farce we had in Limerick last year. They are human after all and a team that questions their judgement has to get into their head.
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 20, 2015, 04:28:11 PM
Posters will sit and analyse his strike all day, but the ruling is made and he is proven innocent (in the eyes of the GAA and that's all that counts!). That's the way.
Keanes strike was/is a Red Card offence. No doubt! Mayo as is their right contested the decision and the verdict swung our way. And do we care what anyone thinks?
No! but this comes with a caveat.
Personally I'd rather the Red stayed. Referees don't like to be undermined and they are a closely net bunch. Better to take you medicine and move on, especially with a squad player. An over turned decision can lead to the refereeing farce we had in Limerick last year. They are human after all and a team that questions their judgement has to get into their head.
Cormac Reilly gave the red card to Leeroy, and he was the ref that put on a 'performance' in Limerick, any link between the two events?
Quote from: muppet on August 20, 2015, 03:27:23 PM
Quote from: Oyam on August 20, 2015, 02:39:40 PM
Diarmuid Connolly got sent off for something very similar in the 2011 semi against Donegal and that card was overturned before the final.
Go to 9:57 on this link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtnJPTENOKk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtnJPTENOKk)
Kevin Keane did much the same with an open hand. Technically is it a red. That red and reversal of the free could have cost Dublin the All-Ireland in 2011. I suspect Donaghy's 'simulation' might have persuaded the ref to ignore it.
My point is not to highlight Brennan's or Donaghy's rule breaking, but to show that our games can come down to very tight calls that the refs really have very little chance to get right.
If the incident above was reffed by 10 different refs you might have had any of the following scenarios:
* yellow card to Brennan - free to Kerry
* yellow to Donaghy for simulation, red to Brennan - free to Kerry
* yellow to Donaghy for simulation, red to Brennan - throw ball
* red to Brennan - free to Kerry
* yellow to Donaghy - free to Dublin
And possibly more.
To be fair to the ref I think he did well and throwing the ball up was correct, but I think he could have been showing cards. If there was a replay those cards could have been crucial.
With video evidence and a TMO it might have been a lot easier, but of course it would disrupt the flow of the game. And given the way some counties play, we would spend most of the day waiting for the TMO.
Maybe we could do it like the Tennis. Maybe each team gets a maximum number (say 3) of TMO reviews per half for defined categories of incident?
As said previously Deegan didn't note Dermot in his book. Hence he never sent the player off. Hence it was over-turned.
They aren't the same. The GAA needs to decide what constitutes a strike and what doesn't.
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on August 20, 2015, 04:40:54 PM
Cormac Reilly gave the red card to Leeroy, and he was the ref that put on a 'performance' in Limerick, any link between the two events?
It was David Coldrick who red carded Keegan.
Quote from: INDIANA on August 20, 2015, 04:52:16 PM
Quote from: muppet on August 20, 2015, 03:27:23 PM
Quote from: Oyam on August 20, 2015, 02:39:40 PM
Diarmuid Connolly got sent off for something very similar in the 2011 semi against Donegal and that card was overturned before the final.
Go to 9:57 on this link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtnJPTENOKk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtnJPTENOKk)
Kevin Keane did much the same with an open hand. Technically is it a red. That red and reversal of the free could have cost Dublin the All-Ireland in 2011. I suspect Donaghy's 'simulation' might have persuaded the ref to ignore it.
My point is not to highlight Brennan's or Donaghy's rule breaking, but to show that our games can come down to very tight calls that the refs really have very little chance to get right.
If the incident above was reffed by 10 different refs you might have had any of the following scenarios:
* yellow card to Brennan - free to Kerry
* yellow to Donaghy for simulation, red to Brennan - free to Kerry
* yellow to Donaghy for simulation, red to Brennan - throw ball
* red to Brennan - free to Kerry
* yellow to Donaghy - free to Dublin
And possibly more.
To be fair to the ref I think he did well and throwing the ball up was correct, but I think he could have been showing cards. If there was a replay those cards could have been crucial.
With video evidence and a TMO it might have been a lot easier, but of course it would disrupt the flow of the game. And given the way some counties play, we would spend most of the day waiting for the TMO.
Maybe we could do it like the Tennis. Maybe each team gets a maximum number (say 3) of TMO reviews per half for defined categories of incident?
As said previously Deegan didn't note Dermot in his book. Hence he never sent the player off. Hence it was over-turned.
They aren't the same. The GAA needs to decide what constitutes a strike and what doesn't.
I wasn't connecting the above with Connolly. Merely that small differences in tight calls can have a major bearing on things.
Quote from: five points on August 20, 2015, 05:06:46 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on August 20, 2015, 04:40:54 PM
Cormac Reilly gave the red card to Leeroy, and he was the ref that put on a 'performance' in Limerick, any link between the two events?
It was David Coldrick who red carded Keegan.
It wasn't, Cormac Reilly, linesman for that game, made the decision
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on August 20, 2015, 04:07:44 PM
Quote from: rosnarun on August 20, 2015, 03:24:38 PM
from the Rule book
not sure why people are referring to the Fact it Was a fist in the Rules only hand is mentioned and no mention is made with it is to the body or Face,
Technicaly Both should have gone but in the real world neither should have been sent off
from the rule book
Immediate Ordering Off Infractions (Red Cards)
1. Striking or attempting to strike with arm, elbow, hand, knee or head.
2. Kicking or attempting to kick with minimal force or with force or causing injury.
3. Behaving in any way which is dangerous to an opponent.
4. Spitting at an opponent.
5. Contributing to a melee.
6. Stamping.
7. Inflicting injury recklessly.
8. Abusive language towards a Referee, Umpire, Linesman or Sideline Official.
You do realise there's a difference between a strike, a grab and a push.
Murphy PUSHES Keane in the chest and then GRABS a hold of his jersey. Keane punches Murphy on the butt of his chin.
You know those doors with no handles and the small metal push sign? Do you strike them open?
Actually, there isn't a difference between a strike and a push for our purposes.
In the dictionary the only difference between a strike and a push, is that the latter causes the object to move.
But a push fulfils the definition of a strike. Both require force and both require contact. Force + contact = a strike.
Quote from: muppet on August 20, 2015, 05:13:25 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on August 20, 2015, 04:07:44 PM
Quote from: rosnarun on August 20, 2015, 03:24:38 PM
from the Rule book
not sure why people are referring to the Fact it Was a fist in the Rules only hand is mentioned and no mention is made with it is to the body or Face,
Technicaly Both should have gone but in the real world neither should have been sent off
from the rule book
Immediate Ordering Off Infractions (Red Cards)
1. Striking or attempting to strike with arm, elbow, hand, knee or head.
2. Kicking or attempting to kick with minimal force or with force or causing injury.
3. Behaving in any way which is dangerous to an opponent.
4. Spitting at an opponent.
5. Contributing to a melee.
6. Stamping.
7. Inflicting injury recklessly.
8. Abusive language towards a Referee, Umpire, Linesman or Sideline Official.
You do realise there's a difference between a strike, a grab and a push.
Murphy PUSHES Keane in the chest and then GRABS a hold of his jersey. Keane punches Murphy on the butt of his chin.
You know those doors with no handles and the small metal push sign? Do you strike them open?
Actually, there isn't a difference between a strike and a push for our purposes.
In the dictionary the only difference between a strike and a push, is that the latter causes the object to move.
But a push fulfils the definition of a strike. Both require force and both require contact. Force + contact = a strike.
It does make a difference in the GAA rule book, not sure what you meant by "our purposes". Pushing is one type of foul, resulting in a free kick. Striking is a different foul resulting in a red card.
Quote from: Stall the Bailer on August 20, 2015, 06:08:20 PM
Quote from: muppet on August 20, 2015, 05:13:25 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on August 20, 2015, 04:07:44 PM
Quote from: rosnarun on August 20, 2015, 03:24:38 PM
from the Rule book
not sure why people are referring to the Fact it Was a fist in the Rules only hand is mentioned and no mention is made with it is to the body or Face,
Technicaly Both should have gone but in the real world neither should have been sent off
from the rule book
Immediate Ordering Off Infractions (Red Cards)
1. Striking or attempting to strike with arm, elbow, hand, knee or head.
2. Kicking or attempting to kick with minimal force or with force or causing injury.
3. Behaving in any way which is dangerous to an opponent.
4. Spitting at an opponent.
5. Contributing to a melee.
6. Stamping.
7. Inflicting injury recklessly.
8. Abusive language towards a Referee, Umpire, Linesman or Sideline Official.
You do realise there's a difference between a strike, a grab and a push.
Murphy PUSHES Keane in the chest and then GRABS a hold of his jersey. Keane punches Murphy on the butt of his chin.
You know those doors with no handles and the small metal push sign? Do you strike them open?
Actually, there isn't a difference between a strike and a push for our purposes.
In the dictionary the only difference between a strike and a push, is that the latter causes the object to move.
But a push fulfils the definition of a strike. Both require force and both require contact. Force + contact = a strike.
It does make a difference in the GAA rule book, not sure what you meant by "our purposes". Pushing is one type of foul, resulting in a free kick. Striking is a different foul resulting in a red card.
Not if there is a break in play it's not. Then it is violent conduct and a card may be shown.
Quote from: Stall the Bailer on August 20, 2015, 06:08:20 PM
Quote from: muppet on August 20, 2015, 05:13:25 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on August 20, 2015, 04:07:44 PM
Quote from: rosnarun on August 20, 2015, 03:24:38 PM
from the Rule book
not sure why people are referring to the Fact it Was a fist in the Rules only hand is mentioned and no mention is made with it is to the body or Face,
Technicaly Both should have gone but in the real world neither should have been sent off
from the rule book
Immediate Ordering Off Infractions (Red Cards)
1. Striking or attempting to strike with arm, elbow, hand, knee or head.
2. Kicking or attempting to kick with minimal force or with force or causing injury.
3. Behaving in any way which is dangerous to an opponent.
4. Spitting at an opponent.
5. Contributing to a melee.
6. Stamping.
7. Inflicting injury recklessly.
8. Abusive language towards a Referee, Umpire, Linesman or Sideline Official.
You do realise there's a difference between a strike, a grab and a push.
Murphy PUSHES Keane in the chest and then GRABS a hold of his jersey. Keane punches Murphy on the butt of his chin.
You know those doors with no handles and the small metal push sign? Do you strike them open?
Actually, there isn't a difference between a strike and a push for our purposes.
In the dictionary the only difference between a strike and a push, is that the latter causes the object to move.
But a push fulfils the definition of a strike. Both require force and both require contact. Force + contact = a strike.
It does make a difference in the GAA rule book, not sure what you meant by "our purposes". Pushing is one type of foul, resulting in a free kick. Striking is a different foul resulting in a red card.
The weakness here is in the rule book, and in particular with language, so I am not having a go at you.
But by definition you cannot push someone without striking them. Equally you can't slap or punch someone without striking them either.
(http://www.sandovalkarate.net/wp-content/uploads/sandoval-freestyle-three-main-punches-strike-area-on-fist-267x300.jpg)
(http://pre15.deviantart.net/0d93/th/pre/i/2013/203/1/4/push_sign_by_tellan07-d6eoxa5.png)
strike
strʌɪk/Submit
verb
1.
hit forcibly and deliberately with one's hand or a weapon or other implement.
"he raised his hand, as if to strike me"
synonyms: bang, beat, hit, pound; More
push
pʊʃ/Submit
verb
1.
exert force on (someone or something) in order to move them away from oneself.
I think you'll note there are big differences between them.
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on August 20, 2015, 06:55:36 PM
strike
strʌɪk/Submit
verb
1.
hit forcibly and deliberately with one's hand or a weapon or other implement.
"he raised his hand, as if to strike me"
synonyms: bang, beat, hit, pound; More
push
pʊʃ/Submit
verb
1.
exert force on (someone or something) in order to move them away from oneself.
I think you'll note there are big differences between them.
Wow, you found dictionaries that gave only one, single, all-encompassing, not to say convenient to your point, definitions of the words. ;D
You cannot push without making forceable contact. Making forceable contact is also a strike. If the GAA rule book defines these itself then that would be fine. But AFAIK it doesn't.
"The Aidan OShea push or stiff arm"................. Discuss !!!!!!!!
Quote from: squire_in_navy_slacks on August 20, 2015, 07:29:46 PM
"The Aidan OShea push or stiff arm"................. Discuss !!!!!!!!
You should be more worried about the Quigley push. :D
Anyway -
The Gaa Rule Book (http://www.gaa.ie/about-the-gaa/rules-and-regulations/) discuss.
Quote from: muppet on August 20, 2015, 07:06:55 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on August 20, 2015, 06:55:36 PM
strike
strʌɪk/Submit
verb
1.
hit forcibly and deliberately with one's hand or a weapon or other implement.
"he raised his hand, as if to strike me"
synonyms: bang, beat, hit, pound; More
push
pʊʃ/Submit
verb
1.
exert force on (someone or something) in order to move them away from oneself.
I think you'll note there are big differences between them.
Wow, you found dictionaries that gave only one, single, all-encompassing, not to say convenient to your point, definitions of the words. ;D
You cannot push without making forceable contact. Making forceable contact is also a strike. If the GAA rule book defines these itself then that would be fine. But AFAIK it doesn't.
Drown yourself in your own ignorance if you want but I've never seen a player get a straight red card for pushing someone in the chest in an intercounty game. I presume you'll be screaming for every push in the chest a Mayo man gives on Sunday week to be met with a red card.
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on August 20, 2015, 07:48:08 PM
Drown yourself in your own ignorance if you want but I've never seen a player get a straight red card for pushing someone in the chest in an intercounty game. I presume you'll be screaming for every push in the chest a Mayo man gives on Sunday week to be met with a red card.
You are arguing with your own imagination at this stage and don't seem to have a clue what point I am making.
I will say again that the problem IS THE GAA RULEBOOK. I will say it again the the problem IS WITH LANGUAGE.
I say will again that to push someone you must, by definition, strike them, unless you incredibly slowly and gently place your hands on them and manage to move them without striking, or hitting, them in anyway. But if you walk up to someone and unexpectedly and suddenly push them, you are guilty of striking them under the rules assuming normal english language definitions apply.
I will say again that if the GAA Rulebook defined a strike and a push differently this would probably be ok. I will say again that AFAIK the rulebook doesn't define either of these so we must assume normal english definitions apply.
And I never said that I saw anyone get a red card for pushing someone. Again you are making up an argument and then trying to defeat it.
Can't see anything but a Dublin win I'm afraid, Dublins Forwards are too good, Mayos defence isn't good enough. Anybody care to try and convince me that Mayo even have a chance?
Quote from: squire_in_navy_slacks on August 20, 2015, 07:29:46 PM
"The Aidan OShea push or stiff arm"................. Discuss !!!!!!!!
Either is better than his elbow.
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on August 20, 2015, 09:48:46 PM
Can't see anything but a Dublin win I'm afraid, Dublins Forwards are too good, Mayos defence isn't good enough. Anybody care to try and convince me that Mayo even have a chance?
No.
Can I have your tickets?
BTW this was the Dubs forwards in 2012:
P Flynn, MD Macauley, B Cullen,
C Kilkenny, D Connolly, B Brogan.
Alan Brogan, Eoghan O'Gara and Kevin McMenamin came on during the game.
I reckon our backs are much the same albeit with a slightly better system but in slightly worse form, our midfield is around the same and our forward have improved, although if we match the 0-19 form that day I would probably take it.
Quote from: moysider on August 20, 2015, 06:14:23 PM
Quote from: Stall the Bailer on August 20, 2015, 06:08:20 PM
Quote from: muppet on August 20, 2015, 05:13:25 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on August 20, 2015, 04:07:44 PM
Quote from: rosnarun on August 20, 2015, 03:24:38 PM
from the Rule book
not sure why people are referring to the Fact it Was a fist in the Rules only hand is mentioned and no mention is made with it is to the body or Face,
Technicaly Both should have gone but in the real world neither should have been sent off
from the rule book
Immediate Ordering Off Infractions (Red Cards)
1. Striking or attempting to strike with arm, elbow, hand, knee or head.
2. Kicking or attempting to kick with minimal force or with force or causing injury.
3. Behaving in any way which is dangerous to an opponent.
4. Spitting at an opponent.
5. Contributing to a melee.
6. Stamping.
7. Inflicting injury recklessly.
8. Abusive language towards a Referee, Umpire, Linesman or Sideline Official.
You do realise there's a difference between a strike, a grab and a push.
Murphy PUSHES Keane in the chest and then GRABS a hold of his jersey. Keane punches Murphy on the butt of his chin.
You know those doors with no handles and the small metal push sign? Do you strike them open?
Actually, there isn't a difference between a strike and a push for our purposes.
In the dictionary the only difference between a strike and a push, is that the latter causes the object to move.
But a push fulfils the definition of a strike. Both require force and both require contact. Force + contact = a strike.
It does make a difference in the GAA rule book, not sure what you meant by "our purposes". Pushing is one type of foul, resulting in a free kick. Striking is a different foul resulting in a red card.
Not if there is a break in play it's not. Then it is violent conduct and a card may be shown.
There is nothing in the rule mentioning about a break in play. A foul can be aggressive (includes cynical), dissent or technical. There is also no violent conduct rule. You must be working of a different rule book.
If the push is dangerous then it could come under rule 5.17 "To behave in any way which is dangerous to an opponent." Another more serious one is if he causes injury.
You will only get a straight red card for a push if it falls under these rules. An example would be deliberately pushing a player into the fence with aim of hurting him.
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on August 20, 2015, 09:48:46 PM
Can't see anything but a Dublin win I'm afraid, Dublins Forwards are too good, Mayos defence isn't good enough. Anybody care to try and convince me that Mayo even have a chance?
Firstly stop reading
The Herald!
Secondly, who are the last two teams to beat Dublin in Championship football and at what stage did they beat them?
Thirdly, relax, enjoy the lead up to the game. Worrying won't make any difference on the result!
Quote from: muppet on August 20, 2015, 06:18:29 PM
Quote from: Stall the Bailer on August 20, 2015, 06:08:20 PM
Quote from: muppet on August 20, 2015, 05:13:25 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on August 20, 2015, 04:07:44 PM
Quote from: rosnarun on August 20, 2015, 03:24:38 PM
from the Rule book
not sure why people are referring to the Fact it Was a fist in the Rules only hand is mentioned and no mention is made with it is to the body or Face,
Technicaly Both should have gone but in the real world neither should have been sent off
from the rule book
Immediate Ordering Off Infractions (Red Cards)
1. Striking or attempting to strike with arm, elbow, hand, knee or head.
2. Kicking or attempting to kick with minimal force or with force or causing injury.
3. Behaving in any way which is dangerous to an opponent.
4. Spitting at an opponent.
5. Contributing to a melee.
6. Stamping.
7. Inflicting injury recklessly.
8. Abusive language towards a Referee, Umpire, Linesman or Sideline Official.
You do realise there's a difference between a strike, a grab and a push.
Murphy PUSHES Keane in the chest and then GRABS a hold of his jersey. Keane punches Murphy on the butt of his chin.
You know those doors with no handles and the small metal push sign? Do you strike them open?
Actually, there isn't a difference between a strike and a push for our purposes.
In the dictionary the only difference between a strike and a push, is that the latter causes the object to move.
But a push fulfils the definition of a strike. Both require force and both require contact. Force + contact = a strike.
It does make a difference in the GAA rule book, not sure what you meant by "our purposes". Pushing is one type of foul, resulting in a free kick. Striking is a different foul resulting in a red card.
The weakness here is in the rule book, and in particular with language, so I am not having a go at you.
But by definition you cannot push someone without striking them. Equally you can't slap or punch someone without striking them either.
We could break down every word for its exact meaning. How would you state it in the rule book for both fouls?
For example you can't use punch as there many different ways of striking with the hand.
I guess it is getting balance between legal talk and what your average GAA person will understand.
I think every GAA person knows the difference between and push and a strike. Not sure why you have raised it.
Quote from: Stall the Bailer on August 20, 2015, 10:12:02 PM
Quote from: muppet on August 20, 2015, 06:18:29 PM
Quote from: Stall the Bailer on August 20, 2015, 06:08:20 PM
Quote from: muppet on August 20, 2015, 05:13:25 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on August 20, 2015, 04:07:44 PM
Quote from: rosnarun on August 20, 2015, 03:24:38 PM
from the Rule book
not sure why people are referring to the Fact it Was a fist in the Rules only hand is mentioned and no mention is made with it is to the body or Face,
Technicaly Both should have gone but in the real world neither should have been sent off
from the rule book
Immediate Ordering Off Infractions (Red Cards)
1. Striking or attempting to strike with arm, elbow, hand, knee or head.
2. Kicking or attempting to kick with minimal force or with force or causing injury.
3. Behaving in any way which is dangerous to an opponent.
4. Spitting at an opponent.
5. Contributing to a melee.
6. Stamping.
7. Inflicting injury recklessly.
8. Abusive language towards a Referee, Umpire, Linesman or Sideline Official.
You do realise there's a difference between a strike, a grab and a push.
Murphy PUSHES Keane in the chest and then GRABS a hold of his jersey. Keane punches Murphy on the butt of his chin.
You know those doors with no handles and the small metal push sign? Do you strike them open?
Actually, there isn't a difference between a strike and a push for our purposes.
In the dictionary the only difference between a strike and a push, is that the latter causes the object to move.
But a push fulfils the definition of a strike. Both require force and both require contact. Force + contact = a strike.
It does make a difference in the GAA rule book, not sure what you meant by "our purposes". Pushing is one type of foul, resulting in a free kick. Striking is a different foul resulting in a red card.
The weakness here is in the rule book, and in particular with language, so I am not having a go at you.
But by definition you cannot push someone without striking them. Equally you can't slap or punch someone without striking them either.
We could break down every word for its exact meaning. How would you state it in the rule book for both fouls?
For example you can't use punch as there many different ways of striking with the hand.
I guess it is getting balance between legal talk and what your average GAA person will understand.
I think every GAA person knows the difference between and push and a strike. Not sure why you have raised it.
I raised it to point out the difficulties there can be for refs.
Most pushes are strikes as well and should be sendings off. But it never happens as somehow a push is completely acceptable. Even after the whistle is gone.
For example I will say this against my own county man:
(https://i.imgflip.com/pssjw.gif)
There was outrage over this 'push'.
We can all see it was a push. But it is also a strike on the other player by both hands. Beyond that, it looks terrible, is always likely to start a row and should have no place in the game. But it is almost never punished.
One exception was Ger Brennan in the clip I posted from the end 2011 Final had a free changed to a throw ball. The ref actually took action, unusually, but it was a 'strike' to the face. As I said, there wasn't much power and if Donaghy hadn't have gone down like he was punched the ref might have done more.
If players got carded for a push that involves an aggressive strike, they might think about piling in after a contentious free.
True but if you're talking about what a GAA person would think is a striking offence (or indeed a sending off offence), would Keane's slap be worthy of a red card? For me it's not since there was no real malice in it but by the letter of the law it is a red.
It seems like the letter of the law (in certain instances at least) is applied a lot more in football than in hurling where intent seems to be considered
Quote from: macdanger2 on August 20, 2015, 10:27:17 PM
True but if you're talking about what a GAA person would think is a striking offence (or indeed a sending off offence), would Keane's slap be worthy of a red card? For me it's not since there was no real malice in it but by the letter of the law it is a red.
It seems like the letter of the law (in certain instances at least) is applied a lot more in football than in hurling where intent seems to be considered
I agree about Keane, there was no malice, but it was a red card. The letter of the law has to be the best interpretation, otherwise we end up with chaos. If the letter of the law is the problem, and I accept that it may be, then re-write it.
For me using today's rules I would say that is a yellow card for rough play in that clip.
Quote from: Stall the Bailer on August 20, 2015, 10:36:12 PM
For me using today's rules I would say that is a yellow card for rough play in that clip.
I would be happy to see a yellow card given every time. But it is very rare you see a ref do it. There should also have been a yellow for Dolan's dive. Look as his legs as he is being hit.
Quote from: Stall the Bailer on August 20, 2015, 10:05:22 PM
Quote from: moysider on August 20, 2015, 06:14:23 PM
Quote from: Stall the Bailer on August 20, 2015, 06:08:20 PM
Quote from: muppet on August 20, 2015, 05:13:25 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on August 20, 2015, 04:07:44 PM
Quote from: rosnarun on August 20, 2015, 03:24:38 PM
from the Rule book
not sure why people are referring to the Fact it Was a fist in the Rules only hand is mentioned and no mention is made with it is to the body or Face,
Technicaly Both should have gone but in the real world neither should have been sent off
from the rule book
Immediate Ordering Off Infractions (Red Cards)
1. Striking or attempting to strike with arm, elbow, hand, knee or head.
2. Kicking or attempting to kick with minimal force or with force or causing injury.
3. Behaving in any way which is dangerous to an opponent.
4. Spitting at an opponent.
5. Contributing to a melee.
6. Stamping.
7. Inflicting injury recklessly.
8. Abusive language towards a Referee, Umpire, Linesman or Sideline Official.
You do realise there's a difference between a strike, a grab and a push.
Murphy PUSHES Keane in the chest and then GRABS a hold of his jersey. Keane punches Murphy on the butt of his chin.
You know those doors with no handles and the small metal push sign? Do you strike them open?
Actually, there isn't a difference between a strike and a push for our purposes.
In the dictionary the only difference between a strike and a push, is that the latter causes the object to move.
But a push fulfils the definition of a strike. Both require force and both require contact. Force + contact = a strike.
It does make a difference in the GAA rule book, not sure what you meant by "our purposes". Pushing is one type of foul, resulting in a free kick. Striking is a different foul resulting in a red card.
Not if there is a break in play it's not. Then it is violent conduct and a card may be shown.
There is nothing in the rule mentioning about a break in play. A foul can be aggressive (includes cynical), dissent or technical. There is also no violent conduct rule. You must be working of a different rule book.
If the push is dangerous then it could come under rule 5.17 "To behave in any way which is dangerous to an opponent." Another more serious one is if he causes injury.
You will only get a straight red card for a push if it falls under these rules. An example would be deliberately pushing a player into the fence with aim of hurting him.
Sheesh! No need to be a smart ass about it.
Murphy grabs an opponents jersey and pushes him aggressively during a break in play and that's ok!
How about
contributing to a melee so? Or are you going to argue that trying to start a melee doesn t count and isn t exactly 'contributing'.
QuoteWe could break down every word for its exact meaning. How would you state it in the rule book for both fouls?
For example you can't use punch as there many different ways of striking with the hand.
I guess it is getting balance between legal talk and what your average GAA person will understand.
I think every GAA person knows the difference between and push and a strike. Not sure why you have raised it.
that is exactly what happens in an appeal . Teams look for every loophole possible. I think the reason Keane got off was the referees report did not agree with the action ,
maybe the ref said he struck with a closed fist I stead of an open hand,
they would show he never saw the incident and was not in a position to make a judgment ,
Was it anthony lynch who got off on the basis that he missed his attempt to strike , a sending off offence, but the ref reported a an actual strike,
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Quote from: rosnarun on August 20, 2015, 03:24:38 PM
from the Rule book
not sure why people are referring to the Fact it Was a fist in the Rules only hand is mentioned and no mention is made with it is to the body or Face,
Technicaly Both should have gone but in the real world neither should have been sent off
from the rule book
Immediate Ordering Off Infractions (Red Cards)
1. Striking or attempting to strike with arm, elbow, hand, knee or head.
2. Kicking or attempting to kick with minimal force or with force or causing injury.
3. Behaving in any way which is dangerous to an opponent.
4. Spitting at an opponent.
5. Contributing to a melee.
6. Stamping.
7. Inflicting injury recklessly.
8. Abusive language towards a Referee, Umpire, Linesman or Sideline Official.
You do realise there's a difference between a strike, a grab and a push.
Murphy PUSHES Keane in the chest and then GRABS a hold of his jersey. Keane punches Murphy on the butt of his chin.
You know those doors with no handles and the small metal push sign? Do you strike them open?
Actually, there isn't a difference between a strike and a push for our purposes.
In the dictionary the only difference between a strike and a push, is that the latter causes the object to move.
But a push fulfils the definition of a strike. Both require force and both require contact. Force + contact = a strike.
It does make a difference in the GAA rule book, not sure what you meant by "our purposes". Pushing is one type of foul, resulting in a free kick. Striking is a different foul resulting in a red card.
Not if there is a break in play it's not. Then it is violent conduct and a card may be shown.
There is nothing in the rule mentioning about a break in play. A foul can be aggressive (includes cynical), dissent or technical. There is also no violent conduct rule. You must be working of a different rule book.
If the push is dangerous then it could come under rule 5.17 "To behave in any way which is dangerous to an opponent." Another more serious one is if he causes injury.
You will only get a straight red card for a push if it falls under these rules. An example would be deliberately pushing a player into the fence with aim of hurting him.
Sheesh! No need to be a smart ass about it.
Murphy grabs an opponents jersey and pushes him aggressively during a break in play and that's ok!
How about contributing to a melee so? Or are you going to argue that trying to start a melee doesn t count and isn t exactly 'contributing'.
I wasn't trying to be smart ass about it at all, just stating what the rules were and pointing out there were no rules to cover what you were suggesting.
I believe a big problem in our games is referees not implementing the rules fully as they currently are.
The rule book should not be used as ad hoc guideline where we pick and choose parts of it and try to shoehorn incidents into rules they are not meant for. The rules need to have as little grey areas as possible.
This poor implementation of rules by referees leads to an inconsistency of how our games are played. You can see players get frustrated when something could be a foul one game and not the next. This then results in dissent from the players and those on side lines or those spectating shouting roaring like lunatics, saying it was/wasn't a foul and losing control of themselves. It also discourages players from committing certain fouls as they know they will probably get away with it.
A few examples of referees not implementing the rules correctly would be,
Diving – how often have you seen a referee award a yellow card for diving, I can't think of any examples at inter-county level.
Black fouls pre-introduction of the black cards – the black card fouls were all yellow card offences before the black card was introduced. The refs rarely awarded yellow cards for these fouls any was why you had a lot of body checking etc.
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Quote from: rosnarun on August 20, 2015, 03:24:38 PM
from the Rule book
not sure why people are referring to the Fact it Was a fist in the Rules only hand is mentioned and no mention is made with it is to the body or Face,
Technicaly Both should have gone but in the real world neither should have been sent off
from the rule book
Immediate Ordering Off Infractions (Red Cards)
1. Striking or attempting to strike with arm, elbow, hand, knee or head.
2. Kicking or attempting to kick with minimal force or with force or causing injury.
3. Behaving in any way which is dangerous to an opponent.
4. Spitting at an opponent.
5. Contributing to a melee.
6. Stamping.
7. Inflicting injury recklessly.
8. Abusive language towards a Referee, Umpire, Linesman or Sideline Official.
You do realise there's a difference between a strike, a grab and a push.
Murphy PUSHES Keane in the chest and then GRABS a hold of his jersey. Keane punches Murphy on the butt of his chin.
You know those doors with no handles and the small metal push sign? Do you strike them open?
Actually, there isn't a difference between a strike and a push for our purposes.
In the dictionary the only difference between a strike and a push, is that the latter causes the object to move.
But a push fulfils the definition of a strike. Both require force and both require contact. Force + contact = a strike.
It does make a difference in the GAA rule book, not sure what you meant by "our purposes". Pushing is one type of foul, resulting in a free kick. Striking is a different foul resulting in a red card.
Not if there is a break in play it's not. Then it is violent conduct and a card may be shown.
There is nothing in the rule mentioning about a break in play. A foul can be aggressive (includes cynical), dissent or technical. There is also no violent conduct rule. You must be working of a different rule book.
If the push is dangerous then it could come under rule 5.17 "To behave in any way which is dangerous to an opponent." Another more serious one is if he causes injury.
You will only get a straight red card for a push if it falls under these rules. An example would be deliberately pushing a player into the fence with aim of hurting him.
Sheesh! No need to be a smart ass about it.
Murphy grabs an opponents jersey and pushes him aggressively during a break in play and that's ok!
How about contributing to a melee so? Or are you going to argue that trying to start a melee doesn t count and isn t exactly 'contributing'.
From the rules the referee could gave a free against Murphy for a push. If he thought it was rough play then it would be a yellow as well. If he thought it was dangerous to Keane then he could have gave him a red.
My understanding of melee is more than two players. When the third players comes in they are the ones contributing to a melee. Two players in a confrontation will usually be easily dealt with and it will break up quick enough. This all changes when the third player enters.
I'm curious how you got your viewpoint on these. Is it your interpretation of reading the rule book, or do think the current rules should be altered to what you have said?
Quote from: rosnarun on August 21, 2015, 10:05:31 AM
QuoteWe could break down every word for its exact meaning. How would you state it in the rule book for both fouls?
For example you can't use punch as there many different ways of striking with the hand.
I guess it is getting balance between legal talk and what your average GAA person will understand.
I think every GAA person knows the difference between and push and a strike. Not sure why you have raised it.
that is exactly what happens in an appeal . Teams look for every loophole possible. I think the reason Keane got off was the referees report did not agree with the action ,
maybe the ref said he struck with a closed fist I stead of an open hand,
they would show he never saw the incident and was not in a position to make a judgment ,
Was it anthony lynch who got off on the basis that he missed his attempt to strike , a sending off offence, but the ref reported a an actual strike,
I hope it was a technicality as it appeared a straight red offence. You wouldn't want to see all strikes now being yellow cards.
Putting striking with fist in the report would get you off as there no mention of fist in the rules. It would need to be striking with the hand.
If I remember correctly, it was the umpire who seen it, probably something lost in communication here that resulted in a mistake in the report.
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Quote from: rosnarun on August 21, 2015, 10:05:31 AM
QuoteWe could break down every word for its exact meaning. How would you state it in the rule book for both fouls?
For example you can't use punch as there many different ways of striking with the hand.
I guess it is getting balance between legal talk and what your average GAA person will understand.
I think every GAA person knows the difference between and push and a strike. Not sure why you have raised it.
that is exactly what happens in an appeal . Teams look for every loophole possible. I think the reason Keane got off was the referees report did not agree with the action ,
maybe the ref said he struck with a closed fist I stead of an open hand,
they would show he never saw the incident and was not in a position to make a judgment ,
Was it anthony lynch who got off on the basis that he missed his attempt to strike , a sending off offence, but the ref reported a an actual strike,
I hope it was a technicality as it appeared a straight red offence. You would want to see all strikes now being yellow cards.
Putting striking with fist in the report would get you off as there no mention of fist in the rules. It would need to be striking with the hand.
If I remember correctly, it was the umpire who seen it, probably something lost in communication here that resulted in a mistake in the report.
If keane got off on a technicality, a rule needs to be brought in whereby the CCCC (or what ever is the relevant committee) is permitted to change the charge as appropriate.
What I mean by that (I haven't worded it very well) is that where it is clear that a sending off offence was committed the player involved should be suspended accordingly regardless of what technicality wasn't fulfilled.
E.g. if the referee's report said 'strike with the fist' and the actual offence was 'strike with the hand' then in my opinion no player should get off just because the ref used the wrong word in his report.
It's time to stop letting players get off on technicalities!
I know it's being going on for years but what's the point in having a rule book if it's not going to be implemented.
It appears at the rule book is more a 'guideline' than a 'rule' book!
We had a similar, and just as boring, discussion on the hurling side of the house about Joe Canning's 'strike' and whether it was a red given the way the rule book is worded.
As with a lot of the rules, it's the ambiguous wording, or the fact that it has to be interpreted, which causes the problems.
AS we've said probably for the past 8-10 years, a full, legally reviewed, rewrite of the rules is what is needed.
Left to your own devices ye always manage to turn the conversation to Roscommon somehow.
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Left to your own devices ye always manage to turn the conversation to Roscommon somehow.
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Left to your own devices ye always manage to turn the conversation to Roscommon somehow.
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Scroll up on the page. Look for primrose. You're welcome.
What's the demand like for tickets Mayo bucks .? I'd imagine the hill will be similar to the 2013 game with a nice mix. Acquired decent seats in the lower cusack 306. Finally the season ticket seems to be delivering half decent tickets previous years left me in 406 under the ceiling, miserable stuff
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Quote from: Syferus on August 21, 2015, 12:00:08 PM
Left to your own devices ye always manage to turn the conversation to Roscommon somehow.
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Scroll up on the page. Look for primrose. You're welcome.
TBF Syferus Muppet was just using the GIF as an example for his point
If u hadnt started throwing stones you wouldnt have broken any windows.
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Quote from: Syferus on August 21, 2015, 12:00:08 PM
Left to your own devices ye always manage to turn the conversation to Roscommon somehow.
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Scroll up on the page. Look for primrose. You're welcome.
TBF Syferus Muppet was just using the GIF as an example for his point
If u hadnt started throwing stones you wouldnt have broken any windows.
If Tiernan McCann had actually been pushed like Frankie was he'd have probably got one of the IRA's non-existent firearms and shot himself in the leg.
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Left to your own devices ye always manage to turn the conversation to Roscommon Tyrone somehow.
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Scroll up on the page. Look for primrose. You're welcome.
TBF Syferus Muppet was just using the GIF as an example for his point
If u hadnt started throwing stones you wouldnt have broken any windows.
If Tiernan McCann had actually been pushed like Frankie was he'd have probably got one of the IRA's non-existent firearms and shot himself in the leg.
;)
Quote from: squire_in_navy_slacks on August 21, 2015, 04:11:55 PM
What's the demand like for tickets Mayo bucks .? I'd imagine the hill will be similar to the 2013 game with a nice mix. Acquired decent seats in the lower cusack 306. Finally the season ticket seems to be delivering half decent tickets previous years left me in 406 under the ceiling, miserable stuff
http://www.mayonews.ie/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=22557:unprecedented-demand-for-semi-final-tickets-in-mayo&catid=23:news&Itemid=46
Quote from: Syferus on August 21, 2015, 12:00:08 PM
Left to your own devices ye always manage to turn the conversation to Roscommon somehow.
Bejaysus, me bucko, you're punching above your weight. I can't really disagree with you as I haven't the foggiest notion of who you are referring to but maybe it's the compassionate Mayo folk on here who give ye wise counsel and direction in trying to sort out your effin' internal affairs.
That's gratitude for ya! ;D ;D
PS You lost your amateur status as a Traveller long ago the way you pitch your tent in every Mayo thread there was, there is and (probably) there will be,
in omnia secula seculorum as they used to say in Nathy's long ago.
Just over a week to go! ;D ;D
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Quote from: Syferus on August 21, 2015, 12:00:08 PM
Left to your own devices ye always manage to turn the conversation to Roscommon somehow.
Bejaysus, me bucko, you're punching above your weight. I can't really disagree with you as I haven't the foggiest notion of who you are referring to but maybe it's the compassionate Mayo folk on here who give ye wise counsel and direction in trying to sort out your effin' internal affairs.
That's gratitude for ya! ;D ;D
PS You lost your amateur status as a Traveller long ago the way you pitch your tent in every Mayo thread there was, there is and (probably) there will be, in omnia secula seculorum as they used to say in Nathy's long ago.
They had binned that Latin stuff long before I rolled up at the old army barracks. Well I think you could still take it if you were mad in the head.
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Quote from: Lar Naparka on August 21, 2015, 09:18:30 PM
Quote from: Syferus on August 21, 2015, 12:00:08 PM
Left to your own devices ye always manage to turn the conversation to Roscommon somehow.
Bejaysus, me bucko, you're punching above your weight. I can't really disagree with you as I haven't the foggiest notion of who you are referring to but maybe it's the compassionate Mayo folk on here who give ye wise counsel and direction in trying to sort out your effin' internal affairs.
That's gratitude for ya! ;D ;D
PS You lost your amateur status as a Traveller long ago the way you pitch your tent in every Mayo thread there was, there is and (probably) there will be, in omnia secula seculorum as they used to say in Nathy's long ago.
They had binned that Latin stuff long before I rolled up at the old army barracks. Well I think you could still take it if you were mad in the head.
Ad insaniam convertunt!
Fr.Towey used to describe you as pro avibus or so I heard.
The better half and I are in Dublin next weekend - what's the odds of picking up two tickets up round croker on Sunday - or is it a total sell out?
Quote from: Hurler on the Bitch on August 24, 2015, 09:55:57 AM
The better half and I are in Dublin next weekend - what's the odds of picking up two tickets up round croker on Sunday - or is it a total sell out?
It'll be close to a sell-out but I'd be surprised if there aren't a few tickets online on Friday / Saturday and a few more available around the ground on Sunday morning from supporters
Yeah - I have been at all-Irelands and fans are selling spares at face value round drumcondra .. I'll chance my arm..
Quote from: squire_in_navy_slacks on August 21, 2015, 04:11:55 PM
What's the demand like for tickets Mayo bucks .? I'd imagine the hill will be similar to the 2013 game with a nice mix. Acquired decent seats in the lower cusack 306. Finally the season ticket seems to be delivering half decent tickets previous years left me in 406 under the ceiling, miserable stuff
More Dublin bias, we're in 304
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Quote from: squire_in_navy_slacks on August 21, 2015, 04:11:55 PM
What's the demand like for tickets Mayo bucks .? I'd imagine the hill will be similar to the 2013 game with a nice mix. Acquired decent seats in the lower cusack 306. Finally the season ticket seems to be delivering half decent tickets previous years left me in 406 under the ceiling, miserable stuff
More Dublin bias, we're in 304
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Quote from: mayo.mick on August 24, 2015, 11:44:54 AM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on August 24, 2015, 11:42:02 AM
Quote from: squire_in_navy_slacks on August 21, 2015, 04:11:55 PM
What's the demand like for tickets Mayo bucks .? I'd imagine the hill will be similar to the 2013 game with a nice mix. Acquired decent seats in the lower cusack 306. Finally the season ticket seems to be delivering half decent tickets previous years left me in 406 under the ceiling, miserable stuff
More Dublin bias, we're in 304
???
At least you're not in the Mackey Stand. If ye beat Dublin, that's where the All Ireland Final will be :)
Well, both teams know who's waiting in the final for them now – the old reliables who did just enough to win yesterday and will be happy that the main talking point for them in the run up to the final will be the massive "hole" in their backline which will no doubt be non-existent when Dublin / Mayo go looking for it the next day!!
Mayo will probably line out largely the same as the last day with the main decision likely to be whether Barry Moran starts or not. Alternative options are playing Barrett as a sweeper instead or playing orthodox with Andy / Dillon in the FF line. Barrett to start would be my guess – as a relatively attacking sweeper.
The main downside to playing a sweeper is that it robs us of the chance to really push up on their kickouts. The FF line will try to split their men but with the accuracy of Cluxton, it's unlikely to be enough to get much joy. This in turn lessens the effectiveness of our perceived advantage at MF. However, if we can make sure that they only get short kickouts close to their own goal (rather than having free men out around MF for Cluxton to hit) then our forwards will fancy their chances of robbing one or two balls in the tackle and hopefully making it count. The flipside of playing a sweeper obviously is that it provides protection for the FB line and if we can keep a clean sheet, we have a decent chance of winning.
The other question if we play a sweeper is what Dublin do with their spare man – it would seem logical to have him sit in front of AOS and follow AOS out the field when that happens leaving ROC minding the house instead of going out where he's likely to be ineffective. If he's not used in front of AOS, then I'd fancy our chances of getting a goal or two. I'd like to see COC and the runners from the HF line playing off him a lot more also, he was isolated most of the time against Donegal with no other forward within 15 yards of hime when the ball was played in.
Dublin need a big game from some of their underperforming key players – Flynn and MDMA (if he starts) in particular. Flynn is a class player and I hope next Sunday isn't the day he kickstarts his season. Equally for Mayo, we need a big game from COC and maybe one of our half forwards to have a Johnny Buckley / Paul Geaney type of day.
Quote from: macdanger2 on August 24, 2015, 12:02:37 PM
Well, both teams know who's waiting in the final for them now – the old reliables who did just enough to win yesterday and will be happy that the main talking point for them in the run up to the final will be the massive "hole" in their backline which will no doubt be non-existent when Dublin / Mayo go looking for it the next day!!
Mayo will probably line out largely the same as the last day with the main decision likely to be whether Barry Moran starts or not. Alternative options are playing Barrett as a sweeper instead or playing orthodox with Andy / Dillon in the FF line. Barrett to start would be my guess – as a relatively attacking sweeper.
The main downside to playing a sweeper is that it robs us of the chance to really push up on their kickouts. The FF line will try to split their men but with the accuracy of Cluxton, it's unlikely to be enough to get much joy. This in turn lessens the effectiveness of our perceived advantage at MF. However, if we can make sure that they only get short kickouts close to their own goal (rather than having free men out around MF for Cluxton to hit) then our forwards will fancy their chances of robbing one or two balls in the tackle and hopefully making it count. The flipside of playing a sweeper obviously is that it provides protection for the FB line and if we can keep a clean sheet, we have a decent chance of winning.
The other question if we play a sweeper is what Dublin do with their spare man – it would seem logical to have him sit in front of AOS and follow AOS out the field when that happens leaving ROC minding the house instead of going out where he's likely to be ineffective. If he's not used in front of AOS, then I'd fancy our chances of getting a goal or two. I'd like to see COC and the runners from the HF line playing off him a lot more also, he was isolated most of the time against Donegal with no other forward within 15 yards of hime when the ball was played in.
Dublin need a big game from some of their underperforming key players – Flynn and MDMA (if he starts) in particular. Flynn is a class player and I hope next Sunday isn't the day he kickstarts his season. Equally for Mayo, we need a big game from COC and maybe one of our half forwards to have a Johnny Buckley / Paul Geaney type of day.
Barry went to midfield for Donegal's kickouts, and then dropped back immediately after the contest for the ball. I thought this worked very well, but if Barrett starts I can't see us doing that.
The question is whether Barry Moran will have be quick enough to play that role against a Dublin side that's far pacier than Donegal were. We need a sweeper for sure, Brogan has run riot that last few times we've met.
Quote from: Mac2 on August 24, 2015, 12:36:23 PM
The question is whether Barry Moran will have be quick enough to play that role against a Dublin side that's far pacier than Donegal were. We need a sweeper for sure, Brogan has run riot that last few times we've met.
Yes, the Ulster teams carry the ball forward which is quite slow. Kerry and Dublin kickpass it forward quite a bit and we have been doing that this year, especially when O'Sé is inside.
But if we want to pressurise the Cluxton kickout, the way we did Donegal, our sweeper may need to push up to halfway on their kick.
This will be some battle.. Yes - it threatens to be an all out shoot out, but I suspect that Mayos new management will have more plans than that. With Dublin you know what you are going to get, but can any team score more than them in an end to end battle, so I feel the onus is on Mayo to defend responsibly.
Quote from: macdanger2 on August 24, 2015, 12:02:37 PM
Well, both teams know who's waiting in the final for them now – the old reliables who did just enough to win yesterday and will be happy that the main talking point for them in the run up to the final will be the massive "hole" in their backline which will no doubt be non-existent when Dublin / Mayo go looking for it the next day!!
Mayo will probably line out largely the same as the last day with the main decision likely to be whether Barry Moran starts or not. Alternative options are playing Barrett as a sweeper instead or playing orthodox with Andy / Dillon in the FF line. Barrett to start would be my guess – as a relatively attacking sweeper.
The main downside to playing a sweeper is that it robs us of the chance to really push up on their kickouts. The FF line will try to split their men but with the accuracy of Cluxton, it's unlikely to be enough to get much joy. This in turn lessens the effectiveness of our perceived advantage at MF. However, if we can make sure that they only get short kickouts close to their own goal (rather than having free men out around MF for Cluxton to hit) then our forwards will fancy their chances of robbing one or two balls in the tackle and hopefully making it count. The flipside of playing a sweeper obviously is that it provides protection for the FB line and if we can keep a clean sheet, we have a decent chance of winning.
The other question if we play a sweeper is what Dublin do with their spare man – it would seem logical to have him sit in front of AOS and follow AOS out the field when that happens leaving ROC minding the house instead of going out where he's likely to be ineffective. If he's not used in front of AOS, then I'd fancy our chances of getting a goal or two. I'd like to see COC and the runners from the HF line playing off him a lot more also, he was isolated most of the time against Donegal with no other forward within 15 yards of hime when the ball was played in.
Dublin need a big game from some of their underperforming key players – Flynn and MDMA (if he starts) in particular. Flynn is a class player and I hope next Sunday isn't the day he kickstarts his season. Equally for Mayo, we need a big game from COC and maybe one of our half forwards to have a Johnny Buckley / Paul Geaney type of day.
That's what I'm thinking too.
Any tickets going for this one lads? I'm in desperate need of two if anyone has access please send me a pm.
Quote from: Mac2 on August 24, 2015, 12:36:23 PM
The question is whether Barry Moran will have be quick enough to play that role against a Dublin side that's far pacier than Donegal were. We need a sweeper for sure, Brogan has run riot that last few times we've met.
The point about the kick outs is that if we only have five forwards Cluxton won't kick to midfield, he's accurate enough to pick out the spare man
Quote from: screenexile on August 24, 2015, 01:59:35 PM
Any tickets going for this one lads? I'm in desperate need of two if anyone has access please send me a pm.
You re joking right? Why would you want to go to this?
Now that my main interest in the championship is over, I'm really looking forward to this one. I've never really been convinced by Mayo over the past few years but after seeing them in the flesh v Donegal I must say I was very impressed. They have real pace and power throughout the team and with O'Se and O'Connor, they now have a cutting edge up front that would cause any team trouble. I must say also that I really like Lee Keegan as a footballer. His performance v Donegal was superb and really attacked MacNealis who would have regarded as a stronger element of Donegals line up. You also have to admire Mayo's relentless drive to keep coming back year after year.
Dublin, through no fault of their own never get tested until this stage of the championship so in my view it's difficult to tell where they are at but I'd imagine they will not be as unprepared as they were this time last year v Donegal.
I can't see how this will be anything other than a great game of football for the neutral and I genuinely would love to see Mayo pull it off and finally end their Kerry hoodoo in the final.
Quote from: rrhf on August 24, 2015, 01:51:43 PM
This will be some battle.. Yes - it threatens to be an all out shoot out, but I suspect that Mayos new management will have more plans than that. With Dublin you know what you are going to get, but can any team score more than them in an end to end battle, so I feel the onus is on Mayo to defend responsibly.
If that happens Dublin will blow Mayo out of the water!
When can we expect the Mayo team to be released? Tgheyll hardly release it as early as last time?
I am really looking forward to seeing ROC running around after AOXI.
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Quote from: Mayo4Sam on August 24, 2015, 02:08:03 PM
Quote from: Mac2 on August 24, 2015, 12:36:23 PM
The question is whether Barry Moran will have be quick enough to play that role against a Dublin side that's far pacier than Donegal were. We need a sweeper for sure, Brogan has run riot that last few times we've met.
The point about the kick outs is that if we only have five forwards Cluxton won't kick to midfield, he's accurate enough to pick out the spare man
That's the dilemma that faces Mayo management - usless they figure a way to press Cluxton's kick-outs and shore up the backs at the same time?
Disgusting listening to Mortimer and Spillane on RTE. You would swear that Mayo and Kerry were the only counties that play "beautiful" football.
Who will get a semi lurcher at 3:24 when parade commences on sunday
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Quote from: Mayo4Sam on August 24, 2015, 02:08:03 PM
Quote from: Mac2 on August 24, 2015, 12:36:23 PM
The question is whether Barry Moran will have be quick enough to play that role against a Dublin side that's far pacier than Donegal were. We need a sweeper for sure, Brogan has run riot that last few times we've met.
The point about the kick outs is that if we only have five forwards Cluxton won't kick to midfield, he's accurate enough to pick out the spare man
That's the dilemma that faces Mayo management - usless they figure a way to press Cluxton's kick-outs and shore up the backs at the same time?
Perhaps Seamie could act as extra forward and have Barry Moran doing what he did the last day - coming to midfield? I can see the same tactics used against Donegal used for this game.
Really looking forward to this one, and hoping that Mayo can finally lay that '51 bogey to rest (no disrespect to the Dubs).
Speaking to a few of the Kingdom lads after the game yesterday and they were unanimous and in no doubt about who they'd prefer in the final: Dublin!
Maigh Eo Abú! :)
Quote from: SouthDublinBro on August 24, 2015, 07:29:26 PM
Disgusting listening to Mortimer and Spillane on RTE. You would swear that Mayo and Kerry were the only counties that play "beautiful" football.
its written in the stars. I hear Michael kinane is on the bench for Mayo on Sunday
Quote from: INDIANA on August 24, 2015, 09:38:36 PM
Quote from: SouthDublinBro on August 24, 2015, 07:29:26 PM
Disgusting listening to Mortimer and Spillane on RTE. You would swear that Mayo and Kerry were the only counties that play "beautiful" football.
its written in the stars. I hear Michael kinane is on the bench for Mayo on Sunday
Galileo has been added to the backroom team and the match has been moved to a neutral venue - the Rock of Gibralter.
Quote from: moysider on August 24, 2015, 10:55:16 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on August 24, 2015, 09:38:36 PM
Quote from: SouthDublinBro on August 24, 2015, 07:29:26 PM
Disgusting listening to Mortimer and Spillane on RTE. You would swear that Mayo and Kerry were the only counties that play "beautiful" football.
its written in the stars. I hear Michael kinane is on the bench for Mayo on Sunday
Galileo has been added to the backroom team and the match has been moved to a neutral venue - the Rock of Gibralter.
If Mayo can become the King Of Kings with this Vintage Crop, I Imagine they will hear the cheer in Johannesburg.
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Quote from: moysider on August 24, 2015, 10:55:16 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on August 24, 2015, 09:38:36 PM
Quote from: SouthDublinBro on August 24, 2015, 07:29:26 PM
Disgusting listening to Mortimer and Spillane on RTE. You would swear that Mayo and Kerry were the only counties that play "beautiful" football.
its written in the stars. I hear Michael kinane is on the bench for Mayo on Sunday
Galileo has been added to the backroom team and the match has been moved to a neutral venue - the Rock of Gibralter.
If Mayo can become the King Of Kings with this Vintage Crop, I Imagine they will hear the cheer in Johannesburg.
If that happens, it will be heard at the Black Hole in the Centre of the Milky Way. In fact the sound wave will blow Roscommon into the nearest black hole, Tuam.
If it did happen it would be an anti climax , if it had of happened 15/20 years ago ,yes the party would of been mental .
Not today though , society has changed in rural Ireland ,no soul and too many tinkers from other parts of Ireland runnin amok.
Quote from: SouthDublinBro on August 24, 2015, 07:29:26 PM
Disgusting listening to Mortimer and Spillane on RTE. You would swear that Mayo and Kerry were the only counties that play "beautiful" football.
Do you have a link for this?
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on August 24, 2015, 11:30:09 PM
Quote from: SouthDublinBro on August 24, 2015, 07:29:26 PM
Disgusting listening to Mortimer and Spillane on RTE. You would swear that Mayo and Kerry were the only counties that play "beautiful" football.
Do you have a link for this?
Mortimer has a dire attitude considering him plying his trade in Dublin, bloody bore you to death with his monotone voice similar too dessie farrell
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Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on August 24, 2015, 11:30:09 PM
Quote from: SouthDublinBro on August 24, 2015, 07:29:26 PM
Disgusting listening to Mortimer and Spillane on RTE. You would swear that Mayo and Kerry were the only counties that play "beautiful" football.
Do you have a link for this?
Mortimer has a dire attitude considering him plying his trade in Dublin, bloody bore you to death with his monotone voice similar too dessie farrell
Where did you hear it, do you have a link?
http://www.skysports.com/gaa/gaelic-football/news/30553/9964576/dublin-v-mayo-sky-sports-panels-all-ireland-semi-final-preview
I agree with Jim on this one
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Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on August 24, 2015, 11:30:09 PM
Quote from: SouthDublinBro on August 24, 2015, 07:29:26 PM
Disgusting listening to Mortimer and Spillane on RTE. You would swear that Mayo and Kerry were the only counties that play "beautiful" football.
Do you have a link for this?
Mortimer has a dire attitude considering him plying his trade in Dublin, bloody bore you to death with his monotone voice similar too dessie farrell
What
trade is he plying? Is he a plastered/ chippie?
You d want to make up your mind as well about Dublin. Seems like ye present CP as fine and dandy for a team to play Dublin. But get upset at anybody that doesn t genuflect. But hey. don t worry, as long as the ref. genuflects, ye ll be laughing.
Just post a link anyway!
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Quote from: squire_in_navy_slacks on August 24, 2015, 11:33:40 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on August 24, 2015, 11:30:09 PM
Quote from: SouthDublinBro on August 24, 2015, 07:29:26 PM
Disgusting listening to Mortimer and Spillane on RTE. You would swear that Mayo and Kerry were the only counties that play "beautiful" football.
Do you have a link for this?
Mortimer has a dire attitude considering him plying his trade in Dublin, bloody bore you to death with his monotone voice similar too dessie farrell
What trade is he plying? Is he a plastered/ chippie?
You d want to make up your mind as well about Dublin. Seems like ye present CP as fine and dandy for a team to play Dublin. But get upset at anybody that doesn t genuflect. But hey. don t worry, as long as the ref. genuflects, ye ll be laughing.
Just post a link anyway!
I believe he is a fitness coach or something like that with a soccer club in Dublin, might be Bohemians, was involved in some gym not sure if he still is. Might be wrong but I think that's it, and of course, he's got a growing amount of media commitments
He was gym manager in parnells. Think they've squandered all their cash now though so not sure if he's still there
Quote from: Tubberman on August 25, 2015, 07:00:43 AM
He was gym manager in parnells. Think they've squandered all their cash now though so not sure if he's still there
He's still there
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Quote from: squire_in_navy_slacks on August 24, 2015, 11:33:40 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on August 24, 2015, 11:30:09 PM
Quote from: SouthDublinBro on August 24, 2015, 07:29:26 PM
Disgusting listening to Mortimer and Spillane on RTE. You would swear that Mayo and Kerry were the only counties that play "beautiful" football.
Do you have a link for this?
Mortimer has a dire attitude considering him plying his trade in Dublin, bloody bore you to death with his monotone voice similar too dessie farrell
What trade is he plying? Is he a plastered/ chippie?
You d want to make up your mind as well about Dublin. Seems like ye present CP as fine and dandy for a team to play Dublin. But get upset at anybody that doesn t genuflect. But hey. don t worry, as long as the ref. genuflects, ye ll be laughing.
Just post a link anyway!
Getting the excuses in early I see................ Just don't make this semi, your final, if ye win go on and win it all
My point regarding Mortimer is he's a bitter soul and forgets what's side his protein bread is buttered on, sure big James H would back me up on that one
From the Mayo News:
QuoteUnprecedented demand for semi-final tickets in Mayo
Anton McNulty
IT looks like many Mayo GAA football fans who had planned to go to the All-Ireland semi-final between Mayo and Dublin on August 30 will face an anxious wait due to what the Mayo County Board has described as 'unprecedented demand' for tickets to Croke Park.
The allocation for online tickets and those sold through SuperValu and Centra supermarkets for the semi-final sold out within 48 hours last week, and it now appears the demand for All-Ireland semi-final tickets through clubs in Mayo is much higher than ever before.
A statement from the County Board released to clubs late last night said that club orders will only be "fulfilled at 80 percent of what was submitted, meaning that 20 percent will have to be reduced from each club order."
The statement also said that one-third of tickets distributed to clubs over the weekend will include an allocation for the terraced areas of Croke Park, meaning clubs will roughly receive about half of the stand tickets allocation that they requested.
The County Board offered some hope to those likely to be in limbo: "It is hoped that there may be a second allocation next week, but at this stage it is too early to say what may be available."
Expect much talk about the availability of tickets for the big game right through the weekend here in Mayo.
Fairly poor form to sell tickets online and leave clubs without their full allocation - I presume Dublin clubs are in a similar situation.
Why would there be a second allocation of tickets later in the week? I thought that X amount went to the clubs and the remainder online. The Dubs are hardly sending any of their allocation back
I'd imagine this game won't sell out, possibly a thousand or two off the mark, it's the usual event junkies and Facebook brats, sure you couldn't give a ticket away for recent games
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Quote from: moysider on August 25, 2015, 12:26:32 AM
Quote from: squire_in_navy_slacks on August 24, 2015, 11:33:40 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on August 24, 2015, 11:30:09 PM
Quote from: SouthDublinBro on August 24, 2015, 07:29:26 PM
Disgusting listening to Mortimer and Spillane on RTE. You would swear that Mayo and Kerry were the only counties that play "beautiful" football.
Do you have a link for this?
Mortimer has a dire attitude considering him plying his trade in Dublin, bloody bore you to death with his monotone voice similar too dessie farrell
What trade is he plying? Is he a plastered/ chippie?
You d want to make up your mind as well about Dublin. Seems like ye present CP as fine and dandy for a team to play Dublin. But get upset at anybody that doesn t genuflect. But hey. don t worry, as long as the ref. genuflects, ye ll be laughing.
Just post a link anyway!
Getting the excuses in early I see................ Just don't make this semi, your final, if ye win go on and win it all
My point regarding Mortimer is he's a bitter soul and forgets what's side his protein bread is buttered on, sure big James H would back me up on that one
In fairness, Big James H didn't seem to fond of the Shrule men
Quote from: squire_in_navy_slacks on August 25, 2015, 11:33:47 AM
I'd imagine this game won't sell out, possibly a thousand or two off the mark, it's the usual event junkies and Facebook brats, sure you couldn't give a ticket away for recent games
It sold out a while ago
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on August 25, 2015, 11:35:37 AM
Quote from: squire_in_navy_slacks on August 25, 2015, 11:33:47 AM
I'd imagine this game won't sell out, possibly a thousand or two off the mark, it's the usual event junkies and Facebook brats, sure you couldn't give a ticket away for recent games
It sold out a while ago
Hysteria, I haven't seen the sold out signs yet
I think the online ticket allocation was sold-out but that doesn't mean the whole thing is a sell-out yet
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Said with a straight face ;)
http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/jim-gavin-aidan-o-shea-effect-won-t-dilute-philosophy-1.2327266
The poll at the top of the page is beginning to look like a Donegal referendum result in favour of NO.
Mayo (63.4%) Dublin (36.6%)
It seems that there's a clear majority out there who expect a Mayo win. Is that the result of unbiased analysis or, as Alan Greenspan might have said, is it a case of "Irrational Exuberance".
Quote from: squire_in_navy_slacks on August 25, 2015, 11:44:55 AM
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Said with a straight face ;)
http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/jim-gavin-aidan-o-shea-effect-won-t-dilute-philosophy-1.2327266
Someone should put a montage together of all the interviews of smiley Jim talking up opposition before games for the laugh.....
What does Yerra sound like in a Dublin accent?
Dublin to win by at least 5 points I'm gl sorry :-[ to say.
Quote from: Rossfan on August 25, 2015, 03:33:40 PM
Dublin to win by at least 5 points I'm gl sorry :-[ to say.
Doubt it. The 06, 12 and 13 matches were all tight affairs, decided by a point or two. Can't see that changing. Two very evenly matched teams.
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Quote from: squire_in_navy_slacks on August 25, 2015, 11:44:55 AM
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Said with a straight face ;)
http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/jim-gavin-aidan-o-shea-effect-won-t-dilute-philosophy-1.2327266
Someone should put a montage together of all the interviews of smiley Jim talking up opposition before games for the laugh.....
What does Yerra sound like in a Dublin accent?
He must have the smarmiest head in Ireland. Only Michael Lowry comes close
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Quote from: Jinxy on August 25, 2015, 03:53:06 PM
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Touché
Predictions? Mine is Dublin by at least 3
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Quote from: Jinxy on August 25, 2015, 03:53:06 PM
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Touché
Two Sé:
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Toupee
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Confirmed a sell out.............
Mayo GAA @MayoGAA 18m18 minutes ago
Going to be some atmosphere on Sunday. @officialgaa announce that the game is now Officially "Sold Out" #mayogaa #gaa
http://www.hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=243175
Mortimer sound bytes all week I'd imagine
Quote from: squire_in_navy_slacks on August 25, 2015, 04:46:02 PM
http://www.hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=243175
Mortimer sound bytes all week I'd imagine
It's going to be a really long week so!!!!
Seems a few Mayo people will be on Hill 16 for the game.
Quote from: Farrandeelin on August 25, 2015, 05:37:46 PM
Seems a few Mayo people will be on Hill 16 for the game.
Similar to 2013 I'd imagine, good to see, I'd love to see David Brady up there ;)
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on August 25, 2015, 01:53:18 AM
Quote from: moysider on August 25, 2015, 12:26:32 AM
Quote from: squire_in_navy_slacks on August 24, 2015, 11:33:40 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on August 24, 2015, 11:30:09 PM
Quote from: SouthDublinBro on August 24, 2015, 07:29:26 PM
Disgusting listening to Mortimer and Spillane on RTE. You would swear that Mayo and Kerry were the only counties that play "beautiful" football.
Do you have a link for this?
He involved with Shelbourne as strength and conditioning coach
Mortimer has a dire attitude considering him plying his trade in Dublin, bloody bore you to death with his monotone voice similar too dessie farrell
What trade is he plying? Is he a plastered/ chippie?
You d want to make up your mind as well about Dublin. Seems like ye present CP as fine and dandy for a team to play Dublin. But get upset at anybody that doesn t genuflect. But hey. don t worry, as long as the ref. genuflects, ye ll be laughing.
Just post a link anyway!
I believe he is a fitness coach or something like that with a soccer club in Dublin, might be Bohemians, was involved in some gym not sure if he still is. Might be wrong but I think that's it, and of course, he's got a growing amount of media commitments
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on August 25, 2015, 12:14:21 AM
http://www.skysports.com/gaa/gaelic-football/news/30553/9964576/dublin-v-mayo-sky-sports-panels-all-ireland-semi-final-preview
I agree with Jim on this one
I see the Brian Carney TWICE said the throw in is 300 pm.... :o
Quote from: oneoftheseyears on August 25, 2015, 06:44:31 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on August 25, 2015, 12:14:21 AM
http://www.skysports.com/gaa/gaelic-football/news/30553/9964576/dublin-v-mayo-sky-sports-panels-all-ireland-semi-final-preview
I agree with Jim on this one
I see the Brian Carney TWICE said the throw in is 300 pm.... :o
No he said throw in 3.30 coverage starting at 3.00
Right Mayo lads, everyone get studying:
http://gaelicstats.com/blog/ (http://gaelicstats.com/blog/)
Quote from: Farrandeelin on August 25, 2015, 05:37:46 PM
Seems a few Mayo people will be on Hill 16 for the game.
Daft carry on and spoils the atmosphere , little pockets of Mayo fans on the hill and absolutely deafened by the noise level the dubs make , looks pathetic and makes for a bad atmosphere . One whole stand should be Mayo and then you have a good atmosphere .
Unfortunately most Mayo fans are deluded about the noise level we create , I think we are shite and 13 final v dubs was embarrassing. Too many gobshites " will ya shut iup and sit down , I didn't pay to be listening to Mayo Mayo Mayo , I came to watch the game in peace" absolutely nuts they drive me , boggers.
The Dubs did a great tribute to the two Dubs fans who died in Portmarnock earlier this year: http://www.herald.ie/news/dubs-to-hold-a-minutes-applause-for-harris-brothers-31304579.html (http://www.herald.ie/news/dubs-to-hold-a-minutes-applause-for-harris-brothers-31304579.html)
Should we do the same for Darragh Doherty?
David Brady @D9BMayo 3h3 hours ago
@MayoClub51 @MayoGAABlog @MayoGAA @Elverys.Lets Honour Darragh Doherty as supporters&Mayo people 13thminute Sun 13 sec applause #13ForNo13
Quote from: larryin89 on August 25, 2015, 08:56:23 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on August 25, 2015, 05:37:46 PM
Seems a few Mayo people will be on Hill 16 for the game.
Daft carry on and spoils the atmosphere , little pockets of Mayo fans on the hill and absolutely deafened by the noise level the dubs make , looks pathetic and makes for a bad atmosphere . One whole stand should be Mayo and then you have a good atmosphere .
Unfortunately most Mayo fans are deluded about the noise level we create , I think we are shite and 13 final v dubs was embarrassing. Too many gobshites " will ya shut iup and sit down , I didn't pay to be listening to Mayo Mayo Mayo , I came to watch the game in peace" absolutely nuts they drive me , boggers.
I haven't been sitting near any of those fans (thankfully for their point of view). I sometimes feel bad for the people around me for shouting too loud, but I can't go to a match of any description without shouting. And I love the Mayo, Mayo, Mayo chant, it mightn't be much of a chant, but it gets me riled up anyway. I hope it spreads to the players on Sunday too! ;D
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Quote from: Farrandeelin on August 25, 2015, 05:37:46 PM
Seems a few Mayo people will be on Hill 16 for the game.
Daft carry on and spoils the atmosphere , little pockets of Mayo fans on the hill and absolutely deafened by the noise level the dubs make , looks pathetic and makes for a bad atmosphere . One whole stand should be Mayo and then you have a good atmosphere .
Unfortunately most Mayo fans are deluded about the noise level we create , I think we are shite and 13 final v dubs was embarrassing. Too many gobshites " will ya shut iup and sit down , I didn't pay to be listening to Mayo Mayo Mayo , I came to watch the game in peace" absolutely nuts they drive me , boggers.
Larry's Lament
Quote from: muppet on August 25, 2015, 09:02:23 PM
The Dubs did a great tribute to the two Dubs fans who died in Portmarnock earlier this year: http://www.herald.ie/news/dubs-to-hold-a-minutes-applause-for-harris-brothers-31304579.html (http://www.herald.ie/news/dubs-to-hold-a-minutes-applause-for-harris-brothers-31304579.html)
Should we do the same for Darragh Doherty?
David Brady @D9BMayo 3h3 hours ago
@MayoClub51 @MayoGAABlog @MayoGAA @Elverys.Lets Honour Darragh Doherty as supporters&Mayo people 13thminute Sun 13 sec applause #13ForNo13
Yes!
Any Club 51 people on board to organise/start this on the day. Is DB calling for 13 sec applause? Seems a short length of time as the momentum of the gesture may be lost.
It's a lovely idea but something like that only works in games that are boring or - and I know it's one and the same, really - soccer. Who knows what heroics we'll be seeing when the clock ticks around to 13? Who'll remember to suddenly switch off and remember the dead? God love that poor lad and his family, but Sunday in Croker won't be the time or the place.
Quote from: IolarCoisCuain on August 25, 2015, 09:43:27 PM
It's a lovely idea but something like that only works in games that are boring or - and I know it's one and the same, really - soccer. Who knows what heroics we'll be seeing when the clock ticks around to 13? Who'll remember to suddenly switch off and remember the dead? God love that poor lad and his family, but Sunday in Croker won't be the time or the place.
I agree.
13 sec. applause after the minute silence perhaps?
Quote from: muppet on August 25, 2015, 09:02:23 PM
The Dubs did a great tribute to the two Dubs fans who died in Portmarnock earlier this year: http://www.herald.ie/news/dubs-to-hold-a-minutes-applause-for-harris-brothers-31304579.html (http://www.herald.ie/news/dubs-to-hold-a-minutes-applause-for-harris-brothers-31304579.html)
Should we do the same for Darragh Doherty?
David Brady @D9BMayo 3h3 hours ago
@MayoClub51 @MayoGAABlog @MayoGAA @Elverys.Lets Honour Darragh Doherty as supporters&Mayo people 13thminute Sun 13 sec applause #13ForNo13
The tribute to the two Dublin lads was very moving. It started on the Hill and spread around the ground. But it was very well organised and orchestrated in the ground and unless that can be assured next Sunday it just might not be as effective as everyone would hope. Anyway here's hoping that an appropriate tribute can be arranged and I'm sure it will be supported by everyone there.
Quote from: IolarCoisCuain on August 25, 2015, 09:43:27 PM
It's a lovely idea but something like that only works in games that are boring or - and I know it's one and the same, really - soccer. Who knows what heroics we'll be seeing when the clock ticks around to 13? Who'll remember to suddenly switch off and remember the dead? God love that poor lad and his family, but Sunday in Croker won't be the time or the place.
It will.
Quote from: muppet on August 25, 2015, 11:01:44 PM
Quote from: IolarCoisCuain on August 25, 2015, 09:43:27 PM
It's a lovely idea but something like that only works in games that are boring or - and I know it's one and the same, really - soccer. Who knows what heroics we'll be seeing when the clock ticks around to 13? Who'll remember to suddenly switch off and remember the dead? God love that poor lad and his family, but Sunday in Croker won't be the time or the place.
I will.
I'd love to see a tribute (would love to see this anyway) more along the lines of every single Mayo person in the ground roars out the chorus of "Green and Red of Mayo" immediately after the National Anthem finishes.... twice ... and no holding the "forever moooorrrreeee" after the 1st time, i.e. straight into it the second time.
The time gap between when the National Anthem finishes and game starts would typically just about allow for the chorus to be sung 2 times.
And so there are no excuses, here are the words:
Oh the Green and Red of Mayo
I can see it still
It's soft and craggy bogland
It's tall majestic hills
Where the ocean kisses Ireland
And the waves carress it's shore
Oh the feeling it came over me
To stay forever more
Forever more
Quote from: blast05 on August 26, 2015, 12:11:59 AM
I'd love to see a tribute (would love to see this anyway) more along the lines of every single Mayo person in the ground roars out the chorus of "Green and Red of Mayo" immediately after the National Anthem finishes.... twice ... and no holding the "forever moooorrrreeee" after the 1st time, i.e. straight into it the second time.
The time gap between when the National Anthem finishes and game starts would typically just about allow for the chorus to be sung 2 times.
And so there are no excuses, here are the words:
Oh the Green and Red of Mayo
I can see it still
It's soft and craggy bogland
It's tall majestic hills
Where the ocean kisses Ireland
And the waves carress it's shore
Oh the feeling it came over me
To stay forever more
Forever more
Good idea
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Is it just me or has Darragh gone a bit lazy in his articles lately?
We won't make the same mistakes with Cluxton's kickout's as we did in '13 and for the long ones we have more pace in the middle with Tom Parsons.
It wouldn't surprise me if we don't bother pushing up on the kickouts on Sunday and let the Dubs start their attacks from their own 21. By pushing up in the '13 final and leaving Cluxton to send his lasers to the wings / middle we didn't have enough lads back to create turnovers. That's what we are good at, turnovers and counter attacks through the middle.
We have the added dimension of AOS up front. We are now a better team than the last 3 years and if we get the tactics right on Sunday [i have full faith in the management that we will] and things finally go our way we should win this game by 4 or 5.
I would say that it didn't pay off for Tyrone on Sunday (allowing Kerry win the short kick outs) and in hindsight they will regret not pressing the Kerry kickouts, it's something that should be done if it's a wet ball [Kerry copped this in the 2nd half themselves and forced Morgan to go long]. I think our tackling and added pace around the middle on a dry day should allow for letting the Dubs win short kick outs.
Quote from: highorlow on August 26, 2015, 12:20:09 PM
Quotehttp://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/darragh-%C3%B3-s%C3%A9-cluxton-can-ensure-dublin-end-mayo-s-hopes-1.2328490
Is it just me or has Darragh gone a bit lazy in his articles lately?
We won't make the same mistakes with Cluxton's kickout's as we did in '13 and for the long ones we have more pace in the middle with Tom Parsons.
It wouldn't surprise me if we don't bother pushing up on the kickouts on Sunday and let the Dubs start their attacks from their own 21. By pushing up in the '13 final and leaving Cluxton to send his lasers to the wings / middle we didn't have enough lads back to create turnovers. That's what we are good at, turnovers and counter attacks through the middle.
We have the added dimension of AOS up front. We are now a better team than the last 3 years and if we get the tactics right on Sunday [i have full faith in the management that we will] and things finally go our way we should win this game by 4 or 5.
I would say that it didn't pay off for Tyrone on Sunday (allowing Kerry win the short kick outs) and in hindsight they will regret not pressing the Kerry kickouts, it's something that should be done if it's a wet ball [Kerry copped this in the 2nd half themselves and forced Morgan to go long]. I think our tackling and added pace around the middle on a dry day should allow for letting the Dubs win short kick outs.
If we let him take them short we lose any advantage we may have in midfield but we need a sweeper leaving them with a spare man so Cluxton will be able to pick out that spare man all day long even if we do push up
There is more to Dublin than just Cluxtons kick outs and stopping this is not assured of victory.
I would be more worried about if the Dublin forwards click, and attacks by wing backs McCaffrey and McCarthy, how to limit Connolly, match Flynn's drive, keep Brogans score down etc.
What happens if O Shea is swallow up every time he as the ball, do you think O Connor will step up being marked by Cooper. Not so sure.
Darragh like all his fellow Kerry pundits dance merrily away from the main reason Mayo lost to Kerry last year.
''If it's Mayo, then Kerry didn't get the credit they deserved for beating them last year because everyone said Mayo threw it away.''
And yes he has got lazy!
Quote from: The Aristocrat on August 26, 2015, 01:12:16 PM
There is more to Dublin than just Cluxtons kick outs and stopping this is not assured of victory.
I would be more worried about if the Dublin forwards click, and attacks by wing backs McCaffrey and McCarthy, how to limit Connolly, match Flynn's drive, keep Brogans score down etc.
What happens if O Shea is swallow up every time he as the ball, do you think O Connor will step up being marked by Cooper. Not so sure.
I know and that's why Dublin
will win
Cillian has been terrible all year
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on August 26, 2015, 01:41:45 PM
Cillian has been terrible all year
One bad game doesn't mean 'terrible all year'. For the record, I'm with Aristocrat. I have an awful feeling in my gut that the Dublin forwards will indeed click and give our backs a torrid time. Will the team be announced tonight?
QuoteI have an awful feeling in my gut that the Dublin forwards will indeed click and give our backs a torrid time.
I had the same feeling going into the Donegal game and look what we did to Murphy, McBrearty, MacNiallais, McHugh and McFadden.
Quote from: Farrandeelin on August 26, 2015, 02:07:17 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on August 26, 2015, 01:41:45 PM
Cillian has been terrible all year
One bad game doesn't mean 'terrible all year'. For the record, I'm with Aristocrat. I have an awful feeling in my gut that the Dublin forwards will indeed click and give our backs a torrid time. Will the team be announced tonight?
He played terrible against Galway Sligo and Donegal
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on August 26, 2015, 02:27:20 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on August 26, 2015, 02:07:17 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on August 26, 2015, 01:41:45 PM
Cillian has been terrible all year
One bad game doesn't mean 'terrible all year'. For the record, I'm with Aristocrat. I have an awful feeling in my gut that the Dublin forwards will indeed click and give our backs a torrid time. Will the team be announced tonight?
He played terrible against Galway Sligo and Donegal
He hasn't been of the same standard as the last couple of years so far, but has been far from terrible.
Quote from: highorlow on August 26, 2015, 02:11:15 PM
QuoteI have an awful feeling in my gut that the Dublin forwards will indeed click and give our backs a torrid time.
I had the same feeling going into the Donegal game and look what we did to Murphy, McBrearty, MacNiallais, McHugh and McFadden.
Donegals forwards are far from the standard as Dublins tho and Dublins forwards will win this one
QuoteDonegals forwards are far from the standard as Dublins tho and Dublins forwards will win this one
I don't buy that at all. If O'Gara were available I would be more worried.
Quote from: highorlow on August 26, 2015, 02:50:33 PM
QuoteDonegals forwards are far from the standard as Dublins tho and Dublins forwards will win this one
I don't buy that at all. If O'Gara were available I would be more worried.
I sense that 2013 feeling coming on ;)
Quote from: highorlow on August 26, 2015, 02:50:33 PM
I don't buy that at all. If O'Gara were available I would be more worried.
O'Gara is a big loss to Dublin alright, gives them a great option at FF
Predictions anyone?
Quote from: muppet on August 25, 2015, 08:05:34 PM
Right Mayo lads, everyone get studying:
http://gaelicstats.com/blog/ (http://gaelicstats.com/blog/)
Interesting stats.
I think that the last bit is the most interesting. It talks about teams within the same Division and how they perform home and away. Home teams win over 80% of the time.
QuotePredictions anyone?
We will do it by 4.
Quote from: macdanger2 on August 26, 2015, 03:36:37 PM
Quote from: highorlow on August 26, 2015, 02:50:33 PM
I don't buy that at all. If O'Gara were available I would be more worried.
O'Gara is a big loss to Dublin alright, gives them a great option at FF
I'm personally delighted that O'Gara's not starting, although disappointed that he's injured and not available for use as a sub.
Bernard is more than capable of winning high ball and Paddy Andrews uses the ball far better.
Worried about our wing backs. McCaffrey's never played well against a Mayo/Donegal/Kerry in championship and McCarthy's been below par this year. McCaffrey has been in great form this year and you'd expect McCarthy to up it this week, but they'll both need to be on their games defensively.
Dean Rock is another worry. Can he compete for 50/50 balls? Will his freetaking hold up under the pressure of an AI semi-final? He's been absolutely great so far, but he's never had to worry about missing.
I really hope Macauley starts. I'd probably go with Fenton alongside him and leave Bastick for later.
I need a big Mayo flag and other Mayo regalia such as headbands and small flags etc. Is there anywhere close to Belfast I could get these.
Quote from: ONeill on August 26, 2015, 04:45:34 PM
I need a big Mayo flag and other Mayo regalia such as headbands and small flags etc. Is there anywhere close to Belfast I could get these.
Outside Croker 😹
Quote from: ONeill on August 26, 2015, 04:45:34 PM
I need a big Mayo flag and other Mayo regalia such as headbands and small flags etc. Is there anywhere close to Belfast I could get these.
No, all sold out. Red and green sheep is all that's left
Unfortunately most Mayo fans are deluded about the noise level we create , I think we are shite and 13 final v dubs was embarrassing. Too many gobshites " will ya shut iup and sit down , I didn't pay to be listening to Mayo Mayo Mayo , I came to watch the game in peace" absolutely nuts they drive me , boggers.
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Yes but that was the final.All counties have a large group of fans that jump on the bandwagon if things are going well in late summer.Personally i know about 8 people that went to that game as Mayo fans who had no interest in Mayo football.It was the only game of the year they went to because they had connections and got tickets handy.Dont judge the Mayo support by their standards.I would have given my left ball to get a ticket for that game but couldnt
Dubs to beat the spread.
Mayo have been found wanting every time they came up against a top team that wasn't hungover from the previous All Ireland over the last five years. That record is set to continue.
Quote from: Keane on August 26, 2015, 05:01:59 PM
Dubs to beat the spread.
Mayo have been found wanting every time they came up against a top team that wasn't hungover from the previous All Ireland over the last five years. That record is set to continue.
We'll be around muin na muice if we manage to make the final so ;D
Does anyone else find 'unnatural' hype about this game? Or am I imagining it?
Quote from: macdanger2 on August 26, 2015, 05:06:47 PM
Quote from: Keane on August 26, 2015, 05:01:59 PM
Dubs to beat the spread.
Mayo have been found wanting every time they came up against a top team that wasn't hungover from the previous All Ireland over the last five years. That record is set to continue.
We'll be around muin na muice if we manage to make the final so ;D
If ye get over Dublin the point is probably moot anyway
Brilliant article here!!
"View from the hill"
http://mayoclub51.com/view-from-the-hill/
Since the era of team managers began has a Senior All Ireland title ever been won by a team with joint managers?
Quote from: Farrandeelin on August 26, 2015, 06:52:41 PM
Does anyone else find 'unnatural' hype about this game? Or am I imagining it?
Ya, too much people thinking/expecting a Mayo win, can't see it happening
Good article there mick
For me a huge factor is the form of Cillian O'Connor - the fact that he was so below par against Donegal is a massive issue.
I just can't see Mayo beating Dublin if he doesn't have a big game.
Quote from: Farrandeelin on August 26, 2015, 06:52:41 PM
Does anyone else find 'unnatural' hype about this game? Or am I imagining it?
You can't beat the Zodiac Chart on this one.
Chris B in for turbo is the only change.
Quote from: ballinaman on August 26, 2015, 09:13:40 PM
Chris B in for turbo is the only change.
Chris playing sweeper?
Quote from: ballinaman on August 26, 2015, 09:13:40 PM
Chris B in for turbo is the only change.
Hmmm, same tactics again I would assume. Hopefully they work, but Mayo probably will need a plan B.
Tbf can't wait for this
I love croke buzzing
From WJ's blog
David Clarke (Ballina Stephenites); Ger Cafferkey (Ballina Stephenites), Donal Vaughan (Ballinrobe), Keith Higgins (Ballyhaunis); Lee Keegan (Westport), Chris Barrett (Belmullet), Colm Boyle (Davitts); Seamus O'Shea (Breaffy), Tom Parsons (Charlestown Sarsfields); Diarmuid O'Connor (Ballintubber), Aidan O'Shea (Breaffy), Kevin McLoughlin (Knockmore); Barry Moran (Castlebar Mitchels), Cillian O'Connor (Ballintubber), Jason Doherty (Burrishoole)
Quote from: macdanger2 on August 26, 2015, 09:55:50 PM
From WJ's blog
David Clarke (Ballina Stephenites); Ger Cafferkey (Ballina Stephenites), Donal Vaughan (Ballinrobe), Keith Higgins (Ballyhaunis); Lee Keegan (Westport), Chris Barrett (Belmullet), Colm Boyle (Davitts); Seamus O'Shea (Breaffy), Tom Parsons (Charlestown Sarsfields); Diarmuid O'Connor (Ballintubber), Aidan O'Shea (Breaffy), Kevin McLoughlin (Knockmore); Barry Moran (Castlebar Mitchels), Cillian O'Connor (Ballintubber), Jason Doherty (Burrishoole)
How do u reckon it'll line out?
The poll at the top of the page would suggest that Mayo should be strong favourites (Mayo 64.4% Dublin 35.6%).
However, those favouring a Mayo win mustn't be going to Paddy Power (Dublin 4/7 Mayo 15/8)
Quote from: Farrandeelin on August 26, 2015, 06:52:41 PM
Does anyone else find 'unnatural' hype about this game? Or am I imagining it?
I dunno. Haven't come across much excitement about. Usual annoyance about tickets but that's it.
Am really looking forward to a game for the first time all year, think it's going to be very tight with a single score in it either way.
Haven't read too much of the thread but much hangs on MDMA & Flynn's form (the latter needs a long break from football due to his groin problems).
I'd imagine Connolly will go in FF
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on August 26, 2015, 10:01:56 PM
The poll at the top of the page would suggest that Mayo should be strong favourites (Mayo 64.4% Dublin 35.6%).
However, those favouring a Mayo win mustn't be going to Paddy Power (Dublin 4/7 Mayo 15/8)
Dublin definitely still clear favorites
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on August 26, 2015, 10:00:33 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on August 26, 2015, 09:55:50 PM
From WJ's blog
David Clarke (Ballina Stephenites); Ger Cafferkey (Ballina Stephenites), Donal Vaughan (Ballinrobe), Keith Higgins (Ballyhaunis); Lee Keegan (Westport), Chris Barrett (Belmullet), Colm Boyle (Davitts); Seamus O'Shea (Breaffy), Tom Parsons (Charlestown Sarsfields); Diarmuid O'Connor (Ballintubber), Aidan O'Shea (Breaffy), Kevin McLoughlin (Knockmore); Barry Moran (Castlebar Mitchels), Cillian O'Connor (Ballintubber), Jason Doherty (Burrishoole)
How do u reckon it'll line out?
Likely to be the same as the last day unless they go for something completely left field to start with like Barry and AOS up front, COC at 11 and McLoughlin playing sweeper. I doubt it though
Barry's lack of pace could be problematic although I'd imagine he'll stay close to the square when we don't have the ball. Not conceding a goal is obviously high on the agenda.
Friend with two hill looking for swap , long shot I know but I said I'd post it up on forum for him.
Quote from: larryin89 on August 26, 2015, 10:21:55 PM
Friend with two hill looking for swap , long shot I know but I said I'd post it up on forum for him.
Stick it up on Res Dubs. There's always people on there looking for Hill tickets.
Quote from: larryin89 on August 26, 2015, 10:21:55 PM
Friend with two hill looking for swap , long shot I know but I said I'd post it up on forum for him.
I'm not willing to swap but he might want to add a little bit of €€ because of price difference
If that 15 starts I'd sooner see Barry about the middle and Seamie playing the defensive role.
Barry was a good fit for Murphy and would be my shout if we were playing Kerry and Donaghy but Dublin are a different animal altogether.
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on August 26, 2015, 10:27:31 PM
Quote from: larryin89 on August 26, 2015, 10:21:55 PM
Friend with two hill looking for swap , long shot I know but I said I'd post it up on forum for him.
I'm not willing to swap but he might want to add a little bit of €€ because of price difference
Money difference of course will be given .
Quote from: larryin89 on August 26, 2015, 10:39:06 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on August 26, 2015, 10:27:31 PM
Quote from: larryin89 on August 26, 2015, 10:21:55 PM
Friend with two hill looking for swap , long shot I know but I said I'd post it up on forum for him.
I'm not willing to swap but he might want to add a little bit of €€ because of price difference
Money difference of course will be given .
I'd say he should be able find someone so
Quote from: larryin89 on August 26, 2015, 10:39:06 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on August 26, 2015, 10:27:31 PM
Quote from: larryin89 on August 26, 2015, 10:21:55 PM
Friend with two hill looking for swap , long shot I know but I said I'd post it up on forum for him.
I'm not willing to swap but he might want to add a little bit of €€ because of price difference
Money difference of course will be given .
Hi Larry - I have a Hogan lower tier and will swap for a Hill. Only the one I'm afraid.
Again, is it all hype re: the sell out? - what's the chances of touching for two tickets up around the ground on Sunday..?
Larry, drop me a PM, I've two lower Davin, 320 that I'd swap
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on August 26, 2015, 11:13:51 PM
Quote from: larryin89 on August 26, 2015, 10:39:06 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on August 26, 2015, 10:27:31 PM
Quote from: larryin89 on August 26, 2015, 10:21:55 PM
Friend with two hill looking for swap , long shot I know but I said I'd post it up on forum for him.
I'm not willing to swap but he might want to add a little bit of €€ because of price difference
Money difference of course will be given .
I'd say he should be able find someone so
Yup Larryin89,the wife mentioned to me that she`d a preference for experiencing the hill atmosphere yesterday but I thought no more on it(no
way am goin near the mad blueman group o nuts)I was listenin but I wasn't hearing,she said shes meetin her mate for the game or after?All ou
r(rest of us Mayo) tickets are for The Hogan,so theres a chance
a getting rid of her helpin herself and me and all of Mayo but I wont know till after lunch pending dual lies,non truths,negotiations and the ceasefire holdin ;D
Post on reservoir dubs or dubs supporters page on fb regarding tickets and u will shift them no problem
Injury concerns over a major dublin player doing the rounds hopefully its just internet natter
Quote from: Hurler on the Bitch on August 27, 2015, 08:13:16 AM
Again, is it all hype re: the sell out? - what's the chances of touching for two tickets up around the ground on Sunday..?
Plenty of people here in Dublin scratching their heads about this. At astro last night no one had tickets so far (all admitting to being casual about getting one). Very unusual for a semi final tbh.
Quote from: squire_in_navy_slacks on August 27, 2015, 09:10:46 AM
Injury concerns over a major dublin player doing the rounds hopefully its just internet natter
2 big injury concerns to two major players. Not sure Dublin will get over Mayo on Sunday, they have the best player in the country and all the momentum.
Quote from: squire_in_navy_slacks on August 27, 2015, 09:10:46 AM
Injury concerns over a major dublin player doing the rounds hopefully its just internet natter
Kerry normally keep this for the day before or day of the match - see rumours about David Moran & JOD early last Sunday
Quote from: macdanger2 on August 27, 2015, 09:23:42 AM
Quote from: squire_in_navy_slacks on August 27, 2015, 09:10:46 AM
Injury concerns over a major dublin player doing the rounds hopefully its just internet natter
Kerry normally keep this for the day before or day of the match - see rumours about David Moran & JOD early last Sunday
Very true. But we dont operate like them kerry bucks. Fingers crossed and for the spectical of the game its just bull
Quote from: The Aristocrat on August 27, 2015, 09:22:47 AM
Quote from: squire_in_navy_slacks on August 27, 2015, 09:10:46 AM
Injury concerns over a major dublin player doing the rounds hopefully its just internet natter
2 big injury concerns to two major players. Not sure Dublin will get over Mayo on Sunday, they have the best player in the country and all the momentum.
who's doubtful?
I've a sneaky feeling Dublin will do it.
Very unlikely that Mayo team will start. The Barry Moran tactic worked well the last day but its unlikely to be repeated. If it is Dublin will be prepared and will have planned for it. Against Dublin you need mobile and athletic players in the middle third and Barry Moran has many attributes but mobility isn't one of them. Plus there won't be as many contestable kick-outs with Dublin going short and Mayo doing likewise if Dublin play a sweeper in front on O'Shea. I expect to see another defender come in for Moran before throw in.
Quote from: Mano on August 27, 2015, 11:03:26 AM
Very unlikely that Mayo team will start. The Barry Moran tactic worked well the last day but its unlikely to be repeated. If it is Dublin will be prepared and will have planned for it. Against Dublin you need mobile and athletic players in the middle third and Barry Moran has many attributes but mobility isn't one of them. Plus there won't be as many contestable kick-outs with Dublin going short and Mayo doing likewise if Dublin play a sweeper in front on O'Shea. I expect to see another defender come in for Moran before throw in.
Agreed
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on August 27, 2015, 12:00:15 PM
Quote from: Mano on August 27, 2015, 11:03:26 AM
Very unlikely that Mayo team will start. The Barry Moran tactic worked well the last day but its unlikely to be repeated. If it is Dublin will be prepared and will have planned for it. Against Dublin you need mobile and athletic players in the middle third and Barry Moran has many attributes but mobility isn't one of them. Plus there won't be as many contestable kick-outs with Dublin going short and Mayo doing likewise if Dublin play a sweeper in front on O'Shea. I expect to see another defender come in for Moran before throw in.
Agreed
Keane maybe? I m hearing Cunniffe s not going to b fit>
Here lads, which one of ye is mayo4sam2015 on resdubs? There's shite talking, and there's him.
Syferus.
Connolly to play at 14?
Quote from: Denn Forever on August 27, 2015, 10:23:46 AM
I've a sneaky feeling Dublin will do it.
The Stars have aligned for Mayo in 2015 . Believe .
Quote from: INDIANA on August 27, 2015, 01:36:34 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on August 27, 2015, 10:23:46 AM
I've a sneaky feeling Dublin will do it.
The Stars have aligned for Mayo in 2015 . Believe .
Dublin are by far the better team though
Quote from: Farrandeelin on August 27, 2015, 12:42:18 PM
Here lads, which one of ye is mayo4sam2015 on resdubs? There's shite talking, and there's him.
Leo turley or don't matter................ outside chance its david brady though ;)
Quote from: INDIANA on August 27, 2015, 01:36:34 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on August 27, 2015, 10:23:46 AM
I've a sneaky feeling Dublin will do it.
The Stars have aligned for Mayo in 2015 . Believe .
Feck it Indy, I wish I could. Every time I think about Sunday, I see Dublin winning by more. I think Dublin are a totally different level to anyone Mayo have faced this year. Mayo need to have all the luck in the world to win. That's why I think Dublin will do the job on Sunday.
Quote from: Farrandeelin on August 27, 2015, 02:39:16 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on August 27, 2015, 01:36:34 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on August 27, 2015, 10:23:46 AM
I've a sneaky feeling Dublin will do it.
The Stars have aligned for Mayo in 2015 . Believe .
Feck it Indy, I wish I could. Every time I think about Sunday, I see Dublin winning by more. I think Dublin are a totally different level to anyone Mayo have faced this year. Mayo need to have all the luck in the world to win. That's why I think Dublin will do the job on Sunday.
Let's face it lads, none of us has a clue as to how this one will go. It it possible to make a compelling case for either team, but at the end of the day it's all about gut feeling. And my own gut feeling is that Dublin will have learned enough from last year's ambush by Donegal to get them over the line - but it's only gut feeling.
Quote from: Farrandeelin on August 27, 2015, 02:39:16 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on August 27, 2015, 01:36:34 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on August 27, 2015, 10:23:46 AM
I've a sneaky feeling Dublin will do it.
The Stars have aligned for Mayo in 2015 . Believe .
Feck it Indy, I wish I could. Every time I think about Sunday, I see Dublin winning by more. I think Dublin are a totally different level to anyone Mayo have faced this year. Mayo need to have all the luck in the world to win. That's why I think Dublin will do the job on Sunday.
I agree
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on August 27, 2015, 03:01:49 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on August 27, 2015, 02:39:16 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on August 27, 2015, 01:36:34 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on August 27, 2015, 10:23:46 AM
I've a sneaky feeling Dublin will do it.
The Stars have aligned for Mayo in 2015 . Believe .
Feck it Indy, I wish I could. Every time I think about Sunday, I see Dublin winning by more. I think Dublin are a totally different level to anyone Mayo have faced this year. Mayo need to have all the luck in the world to win. That's why I think Dublin will do the job on Sunday.
Let's face it lads, none of us has a clue as to how this one will go. It it possible to make a compelling case for either team, but at the end of the day it's all about gut feeling. And my own gut feeling is that Dublin will have learned enough from last year's ambush by Donegal to get them over the line - but it's only gut feeling.
A compelling case can definitely be made for Dublin and I think yell win, but you say a compelling case can be made for both sides - go ahead, make a compelling case for Mayo
Its a very difficult game to predict, 2 brilliant teams but neither team has been tested so plenty of unanswered questions about both teams and management. The Mayo management who were slated earlier on in the year are now lauded by a few for their decision to employ Barry Moran as a sweeper against Donegal although they've nearly had 12 months to think about that it. Based on what we've seen I think its very difficult to make a compelling case for either team winning.
I'm really looking forward to the game but hope Mayo win as it will mean a trip over for the final and even pints with larryin89
Quote from: Maroon Manc on August 27, 2015, 03:40:01 PM
Its a very difficult game to predict, 2 brilliant teams but neither team has been tested so plenty of unanswered questions about both teams and management. The Mayo management who were slated earlier on in the year are now lauded by a few for their decision to employ Barry Moran as a sweeper against Donegal although they've nearly had 12 months to think about that it. Based on what we've seen I think its very difficult to make a compelling case for either team winning.
I'm really looking forward to the game but hope Mayo win as it will mean a trip over for the final and even pints with larryin89
Dublins ForwArds and Kickouts, compelling enough?
Quote from: Farrandeelin on August 27, 2015, 02:39:16 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on August 27, 2015, 01:36:34 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on August 27, 2015, 10:23:46 AM
I've a sneaky feeling Dublin will do it.
The Stars have aligned for Mayo in 2015 . Believe .
Feck it Indy, I wish I could. Every time I think about Sunday, I see Dublin winning by more. I think Dublin are a totally different level to anyone Mayo have faced this year. Mayo need to have all the luck in the world to win. That's why I think Dublin will do the job on Sunday.
Nobody knows . We have no idea where we are . We have players out of form and others carrying injuries . It has to happen some year for Mayo . That Kerry team in the final is nowhere near unbeatable
This is the best balanced Mayo team. You had more flair players in the past but I always felt likes of Mortimer and Dillon were unrealiable against a top team
Quote from: INDIANA on August 27, 2015, 03:56:36 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on August 27, 2015, 02:39:16 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on August 27, 2015, 01:36:34 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on August 27, 2015, 10:23:46 AM
I've a sneaky feeling Dublin will do it.
The Stars have aligned for Mayo in 2015 . Believe .
Feck it Indy, I wish I could. Every time I think about Sunday, I see Dublin winning by more. I think Dublin are a totally different level to anyone Mayo have faced this year. Mayo need to have all the luck in the world to win. That's why I think Dublin will do the job on Sunday.
Nobody knows . We have no idea where we are . We have players out of form and others carrying injuries . It has to happen some year for Mayo . That Kerry team in the final is nowhere near unbeatable
Probably near enough though - that's all they need!
I've kept my powder dry because I'm really nervous about Sunday - started off the week completely down on Dublin, basically as i felt our midfield just wouldn't be able to compete. Getting a little more optimistic now, but we will need complete performances from Flynn and MDM - also who marks Connolly will be vital - if it is Keegan, then I think they'll cancel each other out, which will probably favour Dublin as we have more options up front (I think!). Would like to see Paddy Andrews start, think he is a really unsung hero, mobile, strong, able to kick a score. In the absence of O'Gara, I think we need him and I don't think McManamon has every really worked out for 70 mins in championship, though he is deadly to bring in with 25 to go.
Have to work on Sunday, but I will be able to watch it - have to go with my heart, though I think this is a Mayo team as close to an All Ireland as they have ever been - Dublin by 3, Brogan will get a goal, and at least one of the teams will end with 14 men, either through a red card or an injury.
Up the Dubs!
Quote from: easytiger95 on August 27, 2015, 08:48:34 PM
I've kept my powder dry because I'm really nervous about Sunday - started off the week completely down on Dublin, basically as i felt our midfield just wouldn't be able to compete. Getting a little more optimistic now, but we will need complete performances from Flynn and MDM - also who marks Connolly will be vital - if it is Keegan, then I think they'll cancel each other out, which will probably favour Dublin as we have more options up front (I think!). Would like to see Paddy Andrews start, think he is a really unsung hero, mobile, strong, able to kick a score. In the absence of O'Gara, I think we need him and I don't think McManamon has every really worked out for 70 mins in championship, though he is deadly to bring in with 25 to go.
Have to work on Sunday, but I will be able to watch it - have to go with my heart, though I think this is a Mayo team as close to an All Ireland as they have ever been - Dublin by 3, Brogan will get a goal, and at least one of the teams will end with 14 men, either through a red card or an injury.
Up the Dubs!
I agree
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G your Mayo lads look to pull in that Man Utd far east support!!!
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keep the Dubs Happy!!
Quote from: Maroon Manc on August 27, 2015, 01:06:12 PM
Connolly to play at 14?
Connolly actually started full forward against Fermanagh.
But within a minute he'd wandered out the field!
Quote from: Hound on August 28, 2015, 08:57:34 AM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on August 27, 2015, 01:06:12 PM
Connolly to play at 14?
Connolly actually started full forward against Fermanagh.
But within a minute he'd wandered out the field!
When will the Dublin team be named?
Quote from: Farrandeelin on August 28, 2015, 09:03:46 AM
Quote from: Hound on August 28, 2015, 08:57:34 AM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on August 27, 2015, 01:06:12 PM
Connolly to play at 14?
Connolly actually started full forward against Fermanagh.
But within a minute he'd wandered out the field!
When will the Dublin team be named?
Same as Mayo team.
3.29pm on Sunday.
Mayo will win
Quote from: ballinaman on August 28, 2015, 09:14:18 AM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on August 28, 2015, 09:03:46 AM
Quote from: Hound on August 28, 2015, 08:57:34 AM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on August 27, 2015, 01:06:12 PM
Connolly to play at 14?
Connolly actually started full forward against Fermanagh.
But within a minute he'd wandered out the field!
When will the Dublin team be named?
Same as Mayo team.
3.29pm on Sunday.
Barring injuries, there's only two positions up for debate, and regardless of what team is named today, we won't know for sure until 3.29pm Sunday
Midfield - 2 from Macauley, Bastick, Fenton
Corner forward - Probably Andrews, possibly McManamon, outside chance for Alan Brogan, maybe even Cormac Costello, remote chance of putting a more defensive player in there instead to act as additional sweeper in front of O'Shea.
The 6 backs and other 5 forwards are set in stone (barring injuries!)
I don't mean to interrupt but has anyone mentioned the financial doping that both these teams partake in? It should be one of the main areas of discussion surely? No? Silence on the issue as usual? No surprise.
Teo, would you ever go away. You're like a bad drum. Yes, Dublin get a lot of money from the GAA. Mayo and Dublin (and Kerry and others) get a lot of money from other sources too. Yes it's unfair and something that needs to be looked at.
But will you stop turning every thread into an excuse to have a go? Some of us just want to talk about the football. The time and place for arguing about money is at congress.
No one ever speaks about it. The appropriate time is when the teams that have the highest level of finance behind them are the only 3 teams remaining in the championship. The silence on the issue is a disgrace.
Loads of people are speaking about it!! Even the GAA are talking about looking at the money being invested in Dublin, and the amount of money being spent preparing county senior teams is also being discussed. It's on the agenda, so lets give it a rest here. It doesn't need to be in every single topic.
From what I've heard there will be limits to the numbers of backroom staff that a county will have in the future.
Barely anyone is talking about it, when the GAA even mentioned the issue the Dubs were up in arms and it was quickly shut up about. Mayo and Dublin fans are going into this game without a thought on the unfair advantages they have on most other counties. It's a major issue and a major reason why these 3 counties are the only teams left in the championship but it's being treated as a minor, insignificant add on. The media wont speak of it, the counties involved wont speak of it and worse, the rest of the counties wont speak of it. That's why nothings been done to remedy the situation and nothing will be done.
Fair enough. Just keep it to a single thread so, and make sure you include all counties, not just the Dubs and Mayo.
Quote from: Teo Lurley on August 28, 2015, 12:20:59 PM
Barely anyone is talking about it, when the GAA even mentioned the issue the Dubs were up in arms and it was quickly shut up about. Mayo and Dublin fans are going into this game without a thought on the unfair advantages they have on most other counties. It's a major issue and a major reason why these 3 counties are the only teams left in the championship but it's being treated as a minor, insignificant add on. The media wont speak of it, the counties involved wont speak of it and worse, the rest of the counties wont speak of it. That's why nothings been done to remedy the situation and nothing will be done.
create a new topic.
The last 3 teams in the championship includes Kerry. This thread is about Mayo v Dublin, this is why I'm mentioning them more. Let's hope not everyone wants the issue silenced. A mention on The Sunday Game for once would be welcome.
Quote from: Maroon Manc on August 28, 2015, 12:32:09 PM
Quote from: Teo Lurley on August 28, 2015, 12:20:59 PM
Barely anyone is talking about it, when the GAA even mentioned the issue the Dubs were up in arms and it was quickly shut up about. Mayo and Dublin fans are going into this game without a thought on the unfair advantages they have on most other counties. It's a major issue and a major reason why these 3 counties are the only teams left in the championship but it's being treated as a minor, insignificant add on. The media wont speak of it, the counties involved wont speak of it and worse, the rest of the counties wont speak of it. That's why nothings been done to remedy the situation and nothing will be done.
create a new topic.
I might just do that, I'm sure it will not be full of people trying to silence, deflect or give me any abuse. :D
You're right Teo, it does need to be looked at - Mayo and Dublin and other teams are spending far too much on preparing senior intercounty teams. The amount of money being spent is scandalous. What specifically do you think should be done??
Looking at the individual match-ups (while acknowledging they may not actually line up like this and there will likely be a sweeper for both teams):
Clarke vs. Cluxton - Dublin
Higgins/Caff vs. Bernard - Dublin (if we can turn this into a draw, I think we're halfway there)
Caff/Higgins vs. Andrews - Mayo
Barrett vs. Rock - Mayo
Keegan vs. Connolly - Draw
Boyle vs. KK - Draw
Vaughan vs. Flynn - Dublin
SOS vs. MDMA/Bastic - draw
Parsons vs. Fenton - Mayo
McLoughlin vs. McCaffrey - draw
Doc vs. COS - Dublin
DOC vs. McCarthy - Dublin
COC vs. Cooper - Mayo
AOS vs. ROC - Mayo
Barry vs. McMahon - Draw (hard to call how the free man will play for both sides)
Dublin - 5
Mayo - 5
Draw - 5
Quote from: Teo Lurley on August 28, 2015, 12:37:45 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on August 28, 2015, 12:32:09 PM
Quote from: Teo Lurley on August 28, 2015, 12:20:59 PM
Barely anyone is talking about it, when the GAA even mentioned the issue the Dubs were up in arms and it was quickly shut up about. Mayo and Dublin fans are going into this game without a thought on the unfair advantages they have on most other counties. It's a major issue and a major reason why these 3 counties are the only teams left in the championship but it's being treated as a minor, insignificant add on. The media wont speak of it, the counties involved wont speak of it and worse, the rest of the counties wont speak of it. That's why nothings been done to remedy the situation and nothing will be done.
create a new topic.
I might just do that, I'm sure it will not be full of people trying to silence, deflect or give me any abuse. :D
In fairness the Dubs get plenty of stick about their budget but what Kerry & Mayo appear to spend goes unnoticed.
To be honest the money spent on senior inter county teams is crazy, and it does need to be regulated. But it's the money spent on coaching and looking after young squads that worries me more.
Quote from: Maroon Manc on August 28, 2015, 12:51:30 PM
Quote from: Teo Lurley on August 28, 2015, 12:37:45 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on August 28, 2015, 12:32:09 PM
Quote from: Teo Lurley on August 28, 2015, 12:20:59 PM
Barely anyone is talking about it, when the GAA even mentioned the issue the Dubs were up in arms and it was quickly shut up about. Mayo and Dublin fans are going into this game without a thought on the unfair advantages they have on most other counties. It's a major issue and a major reason why these 3 counties are the only teams left in the championship but it's being treated as a minor, insignificant add on. The media wont speak of it, the counties involved wont speak of it and worse, the rest of the counties wont speak of it. That's why nothings been done to remedy the situation and nothing will be done.
create a new topic.
I might just do that, I'm sure it will not be full of people trying to silence, deflect or give me any abuse. :D
In fairness the Dubs get plenty of stick about their budget but what Kerry & Mayo appear to spend goes unnoticed.
I honestly couldn't give a f**k about who's spending what, can we just discuss the football go complain about the economics somewhere else
Quote from: Maroon Manc on August 28, 2015, 12:19:23 PM
From what I've heard there will be limits to the numbers of backroom staff that a county will have in the future.
Donegal with their record breaking backroom of twenty will be the first under the cosh so.
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 28, 2015, 12:57:40 PM
it's the money spent on coaching and looking after young squads that worries me more.
Worries you in a good or bad way?
Surely there is far more bang for your buck investing in youth participation than having to bail out the Anglo-esque counties like Mayo & Kildare?
Quote from: heffo on August 28, 2015, 01:04:58 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 28, 2015, 12:57:40 PM
it's the money spent on coaching and looking after young squads that worries me more.
Worries you in a good or bad way?
Surely there is far more bang for your buck investing in youth participation than having to bail out the Anglo-esque counties like Mayo & Kildare?
Can we get back to football please? And if you're going to start throwing accusations around, get your facts straight.
Mayo GAA were not bailed out, the GAA took over the loans from the bank, and Mayo will be repaying to the GAA (in full, albeit at a lower interest rate) rather than the bank.
Really looking forward to this game. I thought last Sunday's match was excellent, and if decent weather prevails this game should surpass that.
I've had a sneaky feeling for Mayo all year, and I think they will edge a close game on Sunday by 2 or 3 pts. There is not a lot to choose between both teams, for me Mayo's strength in midfield and their huge workrate all over the field just doing enough to counter Dublin's threat inside. Mayo look a much more relaxed team this year under the new management, and remind me a bit of Armagh in 2002 - where the fresh impetus from a new management team could be what gets them over the line. A few tweaks here and there and not much else needed - I think Horan had a fondness for getting involved in a bit of tit-for-tat in the media, which added an extra layer of pressure onto the players.
I will not judge Dublin on their q/f win over us, as the game was over as a contest inside 20minutes. However unless Jim Gavin has a defensive masterplan to unveil on Sunday that we haven't seen yet they will concede a big score. They defended in a very high line, and still left huge gaps down either side which Fermanagh where able to throw a pass into space for a runner. Problem for us was that we didnt have a Keegan, Vaughan, Boyle or Doherty on the end of it - and kicked 10wides in the first half, at least 7or8 of which were scorable.
Connolly, Kilkenny & Brogan are in fastastic form - and I'd like to see Higgins shadow Connolly, what a battle that would be. So many great individual tussles in this game, but I think the collective effort from Mayo should get them over the line.
Quote from: macdanger2 on August 28, 2015, 12:48:46 PM
You're right Teo, it does need to be looked at - Mayo and Dublin and other teams are spending far too much on preparing senior intercounty teams. The amount of money being spent is scandalous. What specifically do you think should be done??
I might start a thread on it later but obviously there has to be a cap.
Quote from: Maroon Manc on August 28, 2015, 12:51:30 PM
In fairness the Dubs get plenty of stick about their budget but what Kerry & Mayo appear to spend goes unnoticed.
Kerry and Mayo don't have all their underage structures paid for by all of us. It's one thing spending loads on senior team preparation but having your players created for you by millions of euro is another thing all together.
Quote from: Teo Lurley on August 28, 2015, 01:31:38 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on August 28, 2015, 12:48:46 PM
You're right Teo, it does need to be looked at - Mayo and Dublin and other teams are spending far too much on preparing senior intercounty teams. The amount of money being spent is scandalous. What specifically do you think should be done??
I might start a thread on it later but obviously there has to be a cap.
Please do start one so you can talk to yourself on it and stop polluting other threads with mud information , innuendo and bullshit
Then we have the Dubs coming in with their usual deflecting and giving abuse. They do this because they feel guilty, they wont admit it but they know the score. Their success is fake, they go to matches cheering on victories but in the back of their heads they know it's because of the financial doping. That's why they strike out when anyone mentions the money. The truth of their success hurts them.
Quote from: Teo Lurley on August 28, 2015, 01:31:38 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on August 28, 2015, 12:48:46 PM
You're right Teo, it does need to be looked at - Mayo and Dublin and other teams are spending far too much on preparing senior intercounty teams. The amount of money being spent is scandalous. What specifically do you think should be done??
I might start a thread on it later but obviously there has to be a cap.
While a cap might be a start, it won't solve the problem - all of a sudden, teams will get sponsored this and sponsored that so it'll be off the books but still benefitting the bigger teams
Quote from: macdanger2 on August 28, 2015, 01:42:44 PM
Quote from: Teo Lurley on August 28, 2015, 01:31:38 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on August 28, 2015, 12:48:46 PM
You're right Teo, it does need to be looked at - Mayo and Dublin and other teams are spending far too much on preparing senior intercounty teams. The amount of money being spent is scandalous. What specifically do you think should be done??
I might start a thread on it later but obviously there has to be a cap.
While a cap might be a start, it won't solve the problem - all of a sudden, teams will get sponsored this and sponsored that so it'll be off the books but still benefitting the bigger teams
Plus it won't resolve all the off the books spending by counties with 'Supporters clubs' and the Sinn Fein-esque foreign fundraising - unless we turn the bag men upside down at Dublin & Shannon airports and shake them.
Quote from: heffo on August 28, 2015, 01:04:58 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 28, 2015, 12:57:40 PM
it's the money spent on coaching and looking after young squads that worries me more.
Worries you in a good or bad way?
Surely there is far more bang for your buck investing in youth participation than having to bail out the Anglo-esque counties like Mayo & Kildare?
I should say the disparity in the levels of funding available for coaching and looking after.........
But let's not fall into the trap. Back to the game!
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on August 28, 2015, 12:57:58 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on August 28, 2015, 12:51:30 PM
Quote from: Teo Lurley on August 28, 2015, 12:37:45 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on August 28, 2015, 12:32:09 PM
Quote from: Teo Lurley on August 28, 2015, 12:20:59 PM
Barely anyone is talking about it, when the GAA even mentioned the issue the Dubs were up in arms and it was quickly shut up about. Mayo and Dublin fans are going into this game without a thought on the unfair advantages they have on most other counties. It's a major issue and a major reason why these 3 counties are the only teams left in the championship but it's being treated as a minor, insignificant add on. The media wont speak of it, the counties involved wont speak of it and worse, the rest of the counties wont speak of it. That's why nothings been done to remedy the situation and nothing will be done.
create a new topic.
I might just do that, I'm sure it will not be full of people trying to silence, deflect or give me any abuse. :D
In fairness the Dubs get plenty of stick about their budget but what Kerry & Mayo appear to spend goes unnoticed.
I honestly couldn't give a f**k about who's spending what, can we just discuss the football go complain about the economics somewhere else
You're hardly the one to discuss anything, most of your posts barely pass beyond one sentence.
f**k.... Sunday can't come soon enough, excitement building!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D
Quote from: macdanger2 on August 28, 2015, 01:42:44 PM
Quote from: Teo Lurley on August 28, 2015, 01:31:38 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on August 28, 2015, 12:48:46 PM
You're right Teo, it does need to be looked at - Mayo and Dublin and other teams are spending far too much on preparing senior intercounty teams. The amount of money being spent is scandalous. What specifically do you think should be done??
I might start a thread on it later but obviously there has to be a cap.
While a cap might be a start, it won't solve the problem - all of a sudden, teams will get sponsored this and sponsored that so it'll be off the books but still benefitting the bigger teams
Well the problem wont be solved because the business men in HQ have no interest in solving it. They don't mind funding Dublin or seeing sponsors add on extra millions, they make money off the back of it. They don't care that it's ruining football in other counties, those other counties don't make them money.
The real danger is that HQ will be happy to see a split and a super league formed, only the teams with money would be welcome. The financially doped counties will have no problem with that either. You can see the steps been taken to reach that stage already happening. What's the point in whipping the minnows? Just get rid of them into a losers competition.
https://youtu.be/uD_HQKMU5XY (https://youtu.be/uD_HQKMU5XY)
versus
https://video-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hvideo-xlp1/v/t42.1790-2/11958803_978181738892119_233205632_n.mp4?efg=eyJybHIiOjM2OSwicmxhIjo1ODd9&rl=369&vabr=205&oh=9990138d9df85211e9ae151f91c18106&oe=55E07419 (https://video-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hvideo-xlp1/v/t42.1790-2/11958803_978181738892119_233205632_n.mp4?efg=eyJybHIiOjM2OSwicmxhIjo1ODd9&rl=369&vabr=205&oh=9990138d9df85211e9ae151f91c18106&oe=55E07419)
Only one winner for me. Up Mayo!
Quote from: Tubberman on August 28, 2015, 01:13:01 PM
Quote from: heffo on August 28, 2015, 01:04:58 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 28, 2015, 12:57:40 PM
it's the money spent on coaching and looking after young squads that worries me more.
Worries you in a good or bad way?
Surely there is far more bang for your buck investing in youth participation than having to bail out the Anglo-esque counties like Mayo & Kildare?
Can we get back to football please? And if you're going to start throwing accusations around, get your facts straight.
Mayo GAA were not bailed out, the GAA took over the loans from the bank, and Mayo will be repaying to the GAA (in full, albeit at a lower interest rate) rather than the bank.
Yeah right. The money was just resting in Mayo's account!
Quote from: heffo on August 28, 2015, 01:49:21 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on August 28, 2015, 01:42:44 PM
Quote from: Teo Lurley on August 28, 2015, 01:31:38 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on August 28, 2015, 12:48:46 PM
You're right Teo, it does need to be looked at - Mayo and Dublin and other teams are spending far too much on preparing senior intercounty teams. The amount of money being spent is scandalous. What specifically do you think should be done??
I might start a thread on it later but obviously there has to be a cap.
While a cap might be a start, it won't solve the problem - all of a sudden, teams will get sponsored this and sponsored that so it'll be off the books but still benefitting the bigger teams
Plus it won't resolve all the off the books spending by counties with 'Supporters clubs' and the Sinn Fein-esque foreign fundraising - unless we turn the bag men upside down at Dublin & Shannon airports and shake them.
Whatever you do, don't mention the Dubs and their millions. Mention any other county possible but not Dublin.
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 28, 2015, 02:00:16 PM
https://youtu.be/uD_HQKMU5XY (https://youtu.be/uD_HQKMU5XY)
versus
https://video-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hvideo-xlp1/v/t42.1790-2/11958803_978181738892119_233205632_n.mp4?efg=eyJybHIiOjM2OSwicmxhIjo1ODd9&rl=369&vabr=205&oh=9990138d9df85211e9ae151f91c18106&oe=55E07419 (https://video-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hvideo-xlp1/v/t42.1790-2/11958803_978181738892119_233205632_n.mp4?efg=eyJybHIiOjM2OSwicmxhIjo1ODd9&rl=369&vabr=205&oh=9990138d9df85211e9ae151f91c18106&oe=55E07419)
Only one winner for me. Up Mayo!
Definitely only one winner there
Quote from: Teo Lurley on August 28, 2015, 02:05:08 PM
Quote from: heffo on August 28, 2015, 01:49:21 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on August 28, 2015, 01:42:44 PM
Quote from: Teo Lurley on August 28, 2015, 01:31:38 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on August 28, 2015, 12:48:46 PM
You're right Teo, it does need to be looked at - Mayo and Dublin and other teams are spending far too much on preparing senior intercounty teams. The amount of money being spent is scandalous. What specifically do you think should be done??
I might start a thread on it later but obviously there has to be a cap.
While a cap might be a start, it won't solve the problem - all of a sudden, teams will get sponsored this and sponsored that so it'll be off the books but still benefitting the bigger teams
Plus it won't resolve all the off the books spending by counties with 'Supporters clubs' and the Sinn Fein-esque foreign fundraising - unless we turn the bag men upside down at Dublin & Shannon airports and shake them.
Whatever you do, don't mention the Dubs and their millions. Mention any other county possible but not Dublin.
Piss off and start your thread - this thread is about a football match.
Quote from: Tubberman on August 28, 2015, 02:10:02 PM
Quote from: Teo Lurley on August 28, 2015, 02:05:08 PM
Quote from: heffo on August 28, 2015, 01:49:21 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on August 28, 2015, 01:42:44 PM
Quote from: Teo Lurley on August 28, 2015, 01:31:38 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on August 28, 2015, 12:48:46 PM
You're right Teo, it does need to be looked at - Mayo and Dublin and other teams are spending far too much on preparing senior intercounty teams. The amount of money being spent is scandalous. What specifically do you think should be done??
I might start a thread on it later but obviously there has to be a cap.
While a cap might be a start, it won't solve the problem - all of a sudden, teams will get sponsored this and sponsored that so it'll be off the books but still benefitting the bigger teams
Plus it won't resolve all the off the books spending by counties with 'Supporters clubs' and the Sinn Fein-esque foreign fundraising - unless we turn the bag men upside down at Dublin & Shannon airports and shake them.
Whatever you do, don't mention the Dubs and their millions. Mention any other county possible but not Dublin.
Piss off and start your thread - this thread is about a football match.
Shush everyone, let us enjoy our financially doped success and leave us alone.
Teo, you're perfectly entitled to your opinion, and to start/continue the thread related to what you perceive as financial disparities between counties. Lads can engage with you on that thread if it floats their boats. However you have to stop coming on every thread involving Dublin and raising the same stuff over and over. It prevents everyone having an enjoyable debate/discussion about the games, and that's the whole reason we're all here in the first place.
So, in simple terms, keep this to one thread about Finances in the GAA, and let the other threads concentrate on the games or whatever.
If you continue to annoy people by posting the same stuff in multiple threads, derailing discussions, then we'll have to hand out a ban, and I really don't want to do it because you're well entitled to argue your points, and you are not insulting or abusive. So please, keep it in one thread, and let other posters engage with you there if they feel like it.
Thanks
My head says Dublin will win but my heart is saying f**k off, Mayo For Sam! And with the match approaching I know which I'm siding with! #MaighEoAbú
Quote from: Gaaboardmod3 on August 28, 2015, 02:17:29 PM
Teo, you're perfectly entitled to your opinion, and to start/continue the thread related to what you perceive as financial disparities between counties. Lads can engage with you on that thread if it floats their boats. However you have to stop coming on every thread involving Dublin and raising the same stuff over and over. It prevents everyone having an enjoyable debate/discussion about the games, and that's the whole reason we're all here in the first place.
So, in simple terms, keep this to one thread about Finances in the GAA, and let the other threads concentrate on the games or whatever.
If you continue to annoy people by posting the same stuff in multiple threads, derailing discussions, then we'll have to hand out a ban, and I really don't want to do it because you're well entitled to argue your points, and you are not insulting or abusive. So please, keep it in one thread, and let other posters engage with you there if they feel like it.
Thanks
No, thank you
"To never have considered losing as if winning was by your choosing"
As the big day gets closer I'd like to say to all those Mayo fans who will be on the Hill that you are testement to one of the great features of Gaelic games - that supporters from both teams can mix freely without fear of intimidation. The Dubs supporters can be a noisy lot but our bark is worse than our bite. And if the result goes your way on Sunday I'll shake the hands of any Mayo supporters who may be near me on the Hill. Good luck.
COYBIB
Getting giddy now.
The craic after 2006 & 2012 was up there as the best I've ever had after a match. 2013 took a while to get out of the system, but a few hours later, two of us in Mayo colours were having the craic in Drumcondra surrounded by thousands of very happy Dubs. In terms of supporters mingling, this fixture is about the best there, speaking as a Mayoman. Honourable mention to Galway in Salthill which is usually good craic too.
I am hoping the game doesn't live up to expectation though and the Dubs suffer some inexplicable one-day malaise and we walk it. Here's hoping! I could do without the emotional rollercoaster involved in a 'classic' game.
Quote from: muppet on August 28, 2015, 03:40:03 PM
Getting giddy now.
The craic after 2006 & 2012 was up there as the best I've ever had after a match. 2013 took a while to get out of the system, but a few hours later, two of us in Mayo colours were having the craic in Drumcondra surrounded by thousands of very happy Dubs. In terms of supporters mingling, this fixture is about the best there, speaking as a Mayoman. Honourable mention to Galway in Salthill which is usually good craic too.
I am hoping the game doesn't live up to expectation though and the Dubs suffer some inexplicable one-day malaise and we walk it. Here's hoping! I could do without the emotional rollercoaster involved in a 'classic' game.
Same here
really hope Mayo do the biz but one thing I will say is that no matter what the score Dub fans are gracious in victory or defeat
have been on the hill in days gone by against them
never a bother
banter yes but no intimidation or bother
and lets face it we all will be watching on sunday no matter where we are.
heres hoping for a Ciaran mc donaldesque score to settle it.
If we can get at Cluxton's kickouts I think we can get on top in midfield. Also I don't think we can allow them to score more than one goal as they will get about 14 or 15 points. Achieve these two things and I think we scrape by with a point or two to spare. Two very big if's though and we will need the perfect performance for 1 to 20 to win.My big fear is outside of Andy our subs especially the forward subs will need to contribute handsomely to see us through which was a big failing in 2013.
Always enjoy the pints after with the Dubs , win lose or draw so. They are great football men and women in fairness to them. I do miss the pints in Parnell Park on a dark Feb/Mar evening before and after a league game though :'(!!
Quote from: Crete Boom on August 28, 2015, 04:40:16 PM
If we can get at Cluxton's kickouts I think we can get on top in midfield. Also I don't think we can allow them to score more than one goal as they will get about 14 or 15 points. Achieve these two things and I think we scrape by with a point or two to spare. Two very big if's though and we will need the perfect performance for 1 to 20 to win.My big fear is outside of Andy our subs especially the forward subs will need to contribute handsomely to see us through which was a big failing in 2013.
Always enjoy the pints after with the Dubs , win lose or draw so. They are great football men and women in fairness to them. I do miss the pints in Parnell Park on a dark Feb/Mar evening before and after a league game though :'(!!
Alan Dillon, Alan Freeman, Mark Ronaldson, Andy Moran
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on August 28, 2015, 03:42:24 PM
Quote from: muppet on August 28, 2015, 03:40:03 PM
Getting giddy now.
The craic after 2006 & 2012 was up there as the best I've ever had after a match. 2013 took a while to get out of the system, but a few hours later, two of us in Mayo colours were having the craic in Drumcondra surrounded by thousands of very happy Dubs. In terms of supporters mingling, this fixture is about the best there, speaking as a Mayoman. Honourable mention to Galway in Salthill which is usually good craic too.
I am hoping the game doesn't live up to expectation though and the Dubs suffer some inexplicable one-day malaise and we walk it. Here's hoping! I could do without the emotional rollercoaster involved in a 'classic' game.
Same here
This usually ends well.
Quote from: Jinxy on August 28, 2015, 04:46:54 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on August 28, 2015, 03:42:24 PM
Quote from: muppet on August 28, 2015, 03:40:03 PM
Getting giddy now.
The craic after 2006 & 2012 was up there as the best I've ever had after a match. 2013 took a while to get out of the system, but a few hours later, two of us in Mayo colours were having the craic in Drumcondra surrounded by thousands of very happy Dubs. In terms of supporters mingling, this fixture is about the best there, speaking as a Mayoman. Honourable mention to Galway in Salthill which is usually good craic too.
I am hoping the game doesn't live up to expectation though and the Dubs suffer some inexplicable one-day malaise and we walk it. Here's hoping! I could do without the emotional rollercoaster involved in a 'classic' game.
Same here
This usually ends well.
He who laughs last took longest to get the joke.
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on August 28, 2015, 04:45:04 PM
Quote from: Crete Boom on August 28, 2015, 04:40:16 PM
If we can get at Cluxton's kickouts I think we can get on top in midfield. Also I don't think we can allow them to score more than one goal as they will get about 14 or 15 points. Achieve these two things and I think we scrape by with a point or two to spare. Two very big if's though and we will need the perfect performance for 1 to 20 to win.My big fear is outside of Andy our subs especially the forward subs will need to contribute handsomely to see us through which was a big failing in 2013.
Always enjoy the pints after with the Dubs , win lose or draw so. They are great football men and women in fairness to them. I do miss the pints in Parnell Park on a dark Feb/Mar evening before and after a league game though :'(!!
Alan Dillon, Alan Freeman, Mark Ronaldson, Andy Moran
For me Andy as of yet is the only nailed on impact sub we have. Freeman is a streaky player so when he is hot like the semi in 2013 he is unmarkable but when he is not he contributes very little. Dillion has not shown any real form this year in the championship and looked very laboured when he came on in the Connacht final. For me Ronaldson is untested at this level and hasn't yat shown that he can change a game of this pressure in our favour when it is down to the wire off the bench.
Now that's just my opinion and I truely hope Mark , Alan and Freezer throw these thoughts right back in my face by burying the Dubs challenge off the bench on Sunday but outside of Andy we just haven't see that so far!!
Quote from: Crete Boom on August 28, 2015, 05:04:15 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on August 28, 2015, 04:45:04 PM
Quote from: Crete Boom on August 28, 2015, 04:40:16 PM
If we can get at Cluxton's kickouts I think we can get on top in midfield. Also I don't think we can allow them to score more than one goal as they will get about 14 or 15 points. Achieve these two things and I think we scrape by with a point or two to spare. Two very big if's though and we will need the perfect performance for 1 to 20 to win.My big fear is outside of Andy our subs especially the forward subs will need to contribute handsomely to see us through which was a big failing in 2013.
Always enjoy the pints after with the Dubs , win lose or draw so. They are great football men and women in fairness to them. I do miss the pints in Parnell Park on a dark Feb/Mar evening before and after a league game though :'(!!
Alan Dillon, Alan Freeman, Mark Ronaldson, Andy Moran
For me Andy as of yet is the only nailed on impact sub we have. Freeman is a streaky player so when he is hot like the semi in 2013 he is unmarkable but when he is not he contributes very little. Dillion has not shown any real form this year in the championship and looked very laboured when he came on in the Connacht final. For me Ronaldson is untested at this level and hasn't yat shown that he can change a game of this pressure in our favour when it is down to the wire off the bench.
Now that's just my opinion and I truely hope Mark , Alan and Freezer throw these thoughts right back in my face by burying the Dubs challenge off the bench on Sunday but outside of Andy we just haven't see that so far!!
Where has he been? I mind about 5-6 years ago in the league, he came up to Omagh and kinda destroyed us on his own.
Its only this year (maybe last? as well?) that i have seen him again.
Was he out? injured or what?
Quote from: omaghjoe on August 28, 2015, 05:47:34 PM
Quote from: Crete Boom on August 28, 2015, 05:04:15 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on August 28, 2015, 04:45:04 PM
Quote from: Crete Boom on August 28, 2015, 04:40:16 PM
If we can get at Cluxton's kickouts I think we can get on top in midfield. Also I don't think we can allow them to score more than one goal as they will get about 14 or 15 points. Achieve these two things and I think we scrape by with a point or two to spare. Two very big if's though and we will need the perfect performance for 1 to 20 to win.My big fear is outside of Andy our subs especially the forward subs will need to contribute handsomely to see us through which was a big failing in 2013.
Always enjoy the pints after with the Dubs , win lose or draw so. They are great football men and women in fairness to them. I do miss the pints in Parnell Park on a dark Feb/Mar evening before and after a league game though :'(!!
Alan Dillon, Alan Freeman, Mark Ronaldson, Andy Moran
For me Andy as of yet is the only nailed on impact sub we have. Freeman is a streaky player so when he is hot like the semi in 2013 he is unmarkable but when he is not he contributes very little. Dillion has not shown any real form this year in the championship and looked very laboured when he came on in the Connacht final. For me Ronaldson is untested at this level and hasn't yat shown that he can change a game of this pressure in our favour when it is down to the wire off the bench.
Now that's just my opinion and I truely hope Mark , Alan and Freezer throw these thoughts right back in my face by burying the Dubs challenge off the bench on Sunday but outside of Andy we just haven't see that so far!!
Where has he been? I mind about 5-6 years ago in the league, he came up to Omagh and kinda destroyed us on his own.
Its only this year (maybe last? as well?) that i have seen him again.
Was he out? injured or what?
He kinda got messed around position wise during the Jonno era ( they played him as a sweeper in 2010) , then he was on the squad in 2011 before leaving just before the championship. Whether he was dropped , left or was injured I don't know to be honest?
He is a super skillful footballer who knows where the posts are but struggles with his size at intercounty level especially winning his own ball but I would like to see him get a shot playing off O'Shea but it is too late to be experimenting for this year!!
Quote from: omaghjoe on August 28, 2015, 05:47:34 PM
Quote from: Crete Boom on August 28, 2015, 05:04:15 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on August 28, 2015, 04:45:04 PM
Quote from: Crete Boom on August 28, 2015, 04:40:16 PM
If we can get at Cluxton's kickouts I think we can get on top in midfield. Also I don't think we can allow them to score more than one goal as they will get about 14 or 15 points. Achieve these two things and I think we scrape by with a point or two to spare. Two very big if's though and we will need the perfect performance for 1 to 20 to win.My big fear is outside of Andy our subs especially the forward subs will need to contribute handsomely to see us through which was a big failing in 2013.
Always enjoy the pints after with the Dubs , win lose or draw so. They are great football men and women in fairness to them. I do miss the pints in Parnell Park on a dark Feb/Mar evening before and after a league game though :'(!!
Alan Dillon, Alan Freeman, Mark Ronaldson, Andy Moran
For me Andy as of yet is the only nailed on impact sub we have. Freeman is a streaky player so when he is hot like the semi in 2013 he is unmarkable but when he is not he contributes very little. Dillion has not shown any real form this year in the championship and looked very laboured when he came on in the Connacht final. For me Ronaldson is untested at this level and hasn't yat shown that he can change a game of this pressure in our favour when it is down to the wire off the bench.
Now that's just my opinion and I truely hope Mark , Alan and Freezer throw these thoughts right back in my face by burying the Dubs challenge off the bench on Sunday but outside of Andy we just haven't see that so far!!
Where has he been? I mind about 5-6 years ago in the league, he came up to Omagh and kinda destroyed us on his own.
Its only this year (maybe last? as well?) that i have seen him again.
Was he out? injured or what?
James Horan happened
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on August 28, 2015, 06:24:40 PM
Quote from: omaghjoe on August 28, 2015, 05:47:34 PM
Quote from: Crete Boom on August 28, 2015, 05:04:15 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on August 28, 2015, 04:45:04 PM
Quote from: Crete Boom on August 28, 2015, 04:40:16 PM
If we can get at Cluxton's kickouts I think we can get on top in midfield. Also I don't think we can allow them to score more than one goal as they will get about 14 or 15 points. Achieve these two things and I think we scrape by with a point or two to spare. Two very big if's though and we will need the perfect performance for 1 to 20 to win.My big fear is outside of Andy our subs especially the forward subs will need to contribute handsomely to see us through which was a big failing in 2013.
Always enjoy the pints after with the Dubs , win lose or draw so. They are great football men and women in fairness to them. I do miss the pints in Parnell Park on a dark Feb/Mar evening before and after a league game though :'(!!
Alan Dillon, Alan Freeman, Mark Ronaldson, Andy Moran
For me Andy as of yet is the only nailed on impact sub we have. Freeman is a streaky player so when he is hot like the semi in 2013 he is unmarkable but when he is not he contributes very little. Dillion has not shown any real form this year in the championship and looked very laboured when he came on in the Connacht final. For me Ronaldson is untested at this level and hasn't yat shown that he can change a game of this pressure in our favour when it is down to the wire off the bench.
Now that's just my opinion and I truely hope Mark , Alan and Freezer throw these thoughts right back in my face by burying the Dubs challenge off the bench on Sunday but outside of Andy we just haven't see that so far!!
Where has he been? I mind about 5-6 years ago in the league, he came up to Omagh and kinda destroyed us on his own.
Its only this year (maybe last? as well?) that i have seen him again.
Was he out? injured or what?
James Horan happened
That's the way. Some managers just don't fancy some players. Sometimes they don't fit a system. Sometimes they don't fit the philosophy of the manager. Sometimes there are just not needed. It can be a tough gig.
Subs bench named yet ? Will regan make the cut ?
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 28, 2015, 07:11:52 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on August 28, 2015, 06:24:40 PM
Quote from: omaghjoe on August 28, 2015, 05:47:34 PM
Quote from: Crete Boom on August 28, 2015, 05:04:15 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on August 28, 2015, 04:45:04 PM
Quote from: Crete Boom on August 28, 2015, 04:40:16 PM
If we can get at Cluxton's kickouts I think we can get on top in midfield. Also I don't think we can allow them to score more than one goal as they will get about 14 or 15 points. Achieve these two things and I think we scrape by with a point or two to spare. Two very big if's though and we will need the perfect performance for 1 to 20 to win.My big fear is outside of Andy our subs especially the forward subs will need to contribute handsomely to see us through which was a big failing in 2013.
Always enjoy the pints after with the Dubs , win lose or draw so. They are great football men and women in fairness to them. I do miss the pints in Parnell Park on a dark Feb/Mar evening before and after a league game though :'(!!
Alan Dillon, Alan Freeman, Mark Ronaldson, Andy Moran
For me Andy as of yet is the only nailed on impact sub we have. Freeman is a streaky player so when he is hot like the semi in 2013 he is unmarkable but when he is not he contributes very little. Dillion has not shown any real form this year in the championship and looked very laboured when he came on in the Connacht final. For me Ronaldson is untested at this level and hasn't yat shown that he can change a game of this pressure in our favour when it is down to the wire off the bench.
Now that's just my opinion and I truely hope Mark , Alan and Freezer throw these thoughts right back in my face by burying the Dubs challenge off the bench on Sunday but outside of Andy we just haven't see that so far!!
Where has he been? I mind about 5-6 years ago in the league, he came up to Omagh and kinda destroyed us on his own.
Its only this year (maybe last? as well?) that i have seen him again.
Was he out? injured or what?
James Horan happened
That's the way. Some managers just don't fancy some players. Sometimes they don't fit a system. Sometimes they don't fit the philosophy of the manager. Sometimes there are just not needed. It can be a tough gig.
Not making any accusations but James Horan came there was 3/4 Shrule boys there within a year there was none, I heard there was something for him when he became manager and he was going speaking in Shrule and there wasn't a big deal apparently afterwards he wasn't happy, coincidencental but still
Quote from: larryin89 on August 28, 2015, 08:11:43 PM
Subs bench named yet ? Will regan make the cut ?
No and No. Sweeney is in instead of Regan.Also Stephen Coen has been drafted in
Quote from: mayoman dan on August 28, 2015, 08:23:07 PM
Quote from: larryin89 on August 28, 2015, 08:11:43 PM
Subs bench named yet ? Will regan make the cut ?
No and No. Sweeney is in instead of Regan.Also Stephen Coen has been drafted in
How do you know if it's not been named? If true fuckin stupid , what in the name of Christ is the reason for the reluctance to name regan ? Conroy out regan in surely in any language.
Quote from: larryin89 on August 28, 2015, 08:31:43 PM
Quote from: mayoman dan on August 28, 2015, 08:23:07 PM
Quote from: larryin89 on August 28, 2015, 08:11:43 PM
Subs bench named yet ? Will regan make the cut ?
No and No. Sweeney is in instead of Regan.Also Stephen Coen has been drafted in
How do you know if it's not been named? If true fuckin stupid , what in the name of Christ is the reason for the reluctance to name regan ? Conroy out regan in surely in any language.
He was on the bench the last day wasn't he?
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on August 28, 2015, 08:19:23 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 28, 2015, 07:11:52 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on August 28, 2015, 06:24:40 PM
Quote from: omaghjoe on August 28, 2015, 05:47:34 PM
Quote from: Crete Boom on August 28, 2015, 05:04:15 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on August 28, 2015, 04:45:04 PM
Quote from: Crete Boom on August 28, 2015, 04:40:16 PM
If we can get at Cluxton's kickouts I think we can get on top in midfield. Also I don't think we can allow them to score more than one goal as they will get about 14 or 15 points. Achieve these two things and I think we scrape by with a point or two to spare. Two very big if's though and we will need the perfect performance for 1 to 20 to win.My big fear is outside of Andy our subs especially the forward subs will need to contribute handsomely to see us through which was a big failing in 2013.
Always enjoy the pints after with the Dubs , win lose or draw so. They are great football men and women in fairness to them. I do miss the pints in Parnell Park on a dark Feb/Mar evening before and after a league game though :'(!!
Alan Dillon, Alan Freeman, Mark Ronaldson, Andy Moran
For me Andy as of yet is the only nailed on impact sub we have. Freeman is a streaky player so when he is hot like the semi in 2013 he is unmarkable but when he is not he contributes very little. Dillion has not shown any real form this year in the championship and looked very laboured when he came on in the Connacht final. For me Ronaldson is untested at this level and hasn't yat shown that he can change a game of this pressure in our favour when it is down to the wire off the bench.
Now that's just my opinion and I truely hope Mark , Alan and Freezer throw these thoughts right back in my face by burying the Dubs challenge off the bench on Sunday but outside of Andy we just haven't see that so far!!
Where has he been? I mind about 5-6 years ago in the league, he came up to Omagh and kinda destroyed us on his own.
Its only this year (maybe last? as well?) that i have seen him again.
Was he out? injured or what?
James Horan happened
That's the way. Some managers just don't fancy some players. Sometimes they don't fit a system. Sometimes they don't fit the philosophy of the manager. Sometimes there are just not needed. It can be a tough gig.
Not making any accusations but James Horan came there was 3/4 Shrule boys there within a year there was none, I heard there was something for him when he became manager and he was going speaking in Shrule and there wasn't a big deal apparently afterwards he wasn't happy, coincidencental but still
Ah its true his disappearance would coincide his regin alright
Seem nuts tho cos from what I seen of him that day in Omagh. He was hitting them over from crazy places.
I found this report from one of your fellow supporters.
http://mayogaablog.com/?p=4495#comments
Entertaining, I remember the schmoozel at the end to, sounds like yis were messing around, getting men sent off and being cynical to see out the game! ;)
Bit of that on Sunday if yis are up would do the trick nicely.
Quote from: omaghjoe on August 28, 2015, 08:42:46 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on August 28, 2015, 08:19:23 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 28, 2015, 07:11:52 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on August 28, 2015, 06:24:40 PM
Quote from: omaghjoe on August 28, 2015, 05:47:34 PM
Quote from: Crete Boom on August 28, 2015, 05:04:15 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on August 28, 2015, 04:45:04 PM
Quote from: Crete Boom on August 28, 2015, 04:40:16 PM
If we can get at Cluxton's kickouts I think we can get on top in midfield. Also I don't think we can allow them to score more than one goal as they will get about 14 or 15 points. Achieve these two things and I think we scrape by with a point or two to spare. Two very big if's though and we will need the perfect performance for 1 to 20 to win.My big fear is outside of Andy our subs especially the forward subs will need to contribute handsomely to see us through which was a big failing in 2013.
Always enjoy the pints after with the Dubs , win lose or draw so. They are great football men and women in fairness to them. I do miss the pints in Parnell Park on a dark Feb/Mar evening before and after a league game though :'(!!
Alan Dillon, Alan Freeman, Mark Ronaldson, Andy Moran
For me Andy as of yet is the only nailed on impact sub we have. Freeman is a streaky player so when he is hot like the semi in 2013 he is unmarkable but when he is not he contributes very little. Dillion has not shown any real form this year in the championship and looked very laboured when he came on in the Connacht final. For me Ronaldson is untested at this level and hasn't yat shown that he can change a game of this pressure in our favour when it is down to the wire off the bench.
Now that's just my opinion and I truely hope Mark , Alan and Freezer throw these thoughts right back in my face by burying the Dubs challenge off the bench on Sunday but outside of Andy we just haven't see that so far!!
Where has he been? I mind about 5-6 years ago in the league, he came up to Omagh and kinda destroyed us on his own.
Its only this year (maybe last? as well?) that i have seen him again.
Was he out? injured or what?
James Horan happened
That's the way. Some managers just don't fancy some players. Sometimes they don't fit a system. Sometimes they don't fit the philosophy of the manager. Sometimes there are just not needed. It can be a tough gig.
Not making any accusations but James Horan came there was 3/4 Shrule boys there within a year there was none, I heard there was something for him when he became manager and he was going speaking in Shrule and there wasn't a big deal apparently afterwards he wasn't happy, coincidencental but still
Ah its true his disappearance would coincide his regin alright
Seem nuts tho cos from what I seen of him that day in Omagh. He was hitting them over from crazy places.
I found this report from one of your fellow supporters.
http://mayogaablog.com/?p=4495#comments
Entertaining, I remember the schmoozel at the end to, sounds like yis were messing around, getting men sent off and being cynical to see out the game! ;)
Bit of that on Sunday if yis are up would do the trick nicely.
Horan had a habit as well of just freezing players out until they finally leave ala Conor Mortimer and Richie Feeney
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on August 28, 2015, 08:41:25 PM
Quote from: larryin89 on August 28, 2015, 08:31:43 PM
Quote from: mayoman dan on August 28, 2015, 08:23:07 PM
Quote from: larryin89 on August 28, 2015, 08:11:43 PM
Subs bench named yet ? Will regan make the cut ?
No and No. Sweeney is in instead of Regan.Also Stephen Coen has been drafted in
How do you know if it's not been named? If true fuckin stupid , what in the name of Christ is the reason for the reluctance to name regan ? Conroy out regan in surely in any language.
He was on the bench the last day wasn't he?
Yes he was but poster above has indicated he isn't for Sunday . Tracksuit off the last day too midway through second half , then Holmes told him to come back and sit down . AvB game before Connacht final , Mike Connelly/Connolly quoted as saying " regan showed very well in the game" I just don't get why he's not given a shot .Sligo game not on the bench , Donegal game nearly put on . I'm a bit confused about it all , was actually dreaming he was been kept for this one as surprise package ,dubs wouldn't have a clue who he is .
Quote from: larryin89 on August 28, 2015, 08:31:43 PM
Quote from: mayoman dan on August 28, 2015, 08:23:07 PM
Quote from: larryin89 on August 28, 2015, 08:11:43 PM
Subs bench named yet ? Will regan make the cut ?
No and No. Sweeney is in instead of Regan.Also Stephen Coen has been drafted in
How do you know if it's not been named? If true fuckin stupid , what in the name of Christ is the reason for the reluctance to name regan ? Conroy out regan in surely in any language.
It hasnt officially been named.For what its worth i agree with you Regan should be there.IMO hes better than Ronaldson and Sweeney
Have Dublin named the team yet?
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on August 28, 2015, 09:30:51 PM
Have Dublin named the team yet?
Yes ,Same as last time out.
Dubs Team for Sunday
Cluxton
Cooper
O'Carroll
McMahon
McCarthy
O'Sullivan
McCaffrey
Fenton
Bastic
Flynn
Kilkenny
Connolly
Rock
Andrews
B Brogan
Can't see MDMA not starting. Silly games from Mr. Smiley.
Quote from: omaghjoe on August 28, 2015, 08:42:46 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on August 28, 2015, 08:19:23 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 28, 2015, 07:11:52 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on August 28, 2015, 06:24:40 PM
Quote from: omaghjoe on August 28, 2015, 05:47:34 PM
Quote from: Crete Boom on August 28, 2015, 05:04:15 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on August 28, 2015, 04:45:04 PM
Quote from: Crete Boom on August 28, 2015, 04:40:16 PM
If we can get at Cluxton's kickouts I think we can get on top in midfield. Also I don't think we can allow them to score more than one goal as they will get about 14 or 15 points. Achieve these two things and I think we scrape by with a point or two to spare. Two very big if's though and we will need the perfect performance for 1 to 20 to win.My big fear is outside of Andy our subs especially the forward subs will need to contribute handsomely to see us through which was a big failing in 2013.
Always enjoy the pints after with the Dubs , win lose or draw so. They are great football men and women in fairness to them. I do miss the pints in Parnell Park on a dark Feb/Mar evening before and after a league game though :'(!!
Alan Dillon, Alan Freeman, Mark Ronaldson, Andy Moran
For me Andy as of yet is the only nailed on impact sub we have. Freeman is a streaky player so when he is hot like the semi in 2013 he is unmarkable but when he is not he contributes very little. Dillion has not shown any real form this year in the championship and looked very laboured when he came on in the Connacht final. For me Ronaldson is untested at this level and hasn't yat shown that he can change a game of this pressure in our favour when it is down to the wire off the bench.
Now that's just my opinion and I truely hope Mark , Alan and Freezer throw these thoughts right back in my face by burying the Dubs challenge off the bench on Sunday but outside of Andy we just haven't see that so far!!
Where has he been? I mind about 5-6 years ago in the league, he came up to Omagh and kinda destroyed us on his own.
Its only this year (maybe last? as well?) that i have seen him again.
Was he out? injured or what?
James Horan happened
That's the way. Some managers just don't fancy some players. Sometimes they don't fit a system. Sometimes they don't fit the philosophy of the manager. Sometimes there are just not needed. It can be a tough gig.
Not making any accusations but James Horan came there was 3/4 Shrule boys there within a year there was none, I heard there was something for him when he became manager and he was going speaking in Shrule and there wasn't a big deal apparently afterwards he wasn't happy, coincidencental but still
Ah its true his disappearance would coincide his regin alright
Seem nuts tho cos from what I seen of him that day in Omagh. He was hitting them over from crazy places.
I found this report from one of your fellow supporters.
http://mayogaablog.com/?p=4495#comments
Entertaining, I remember the schmoozel at the end to, sounds like yis were messing around, getting men sent off and being cynical to see out the game! ;)
Bit of that on Sunday if yis are up would do the trick nicely.
Ronaldson was prominent in Horan's first FBD and played league as well but disappeared after getting cleaned by Marc O Sé in the league in Castlebar in Horan's first spring. tbh I wouldn t blame Horan because he was looking for players that could hold their own with the top players in top teams. Ronaldson would murder an ordinary player. Probably struggles a bit against top players when intensity is high because of his size. His radar doesn't make up for lack of pace at top level.
Quote from: larryin89 on August 28, 2015, 08:48:01 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on August 28, 2015, 08:41:25 PM
Quote from: larryin89 on August 28, 2015, 08:31:43 PM
Quote from: mayoman dan on August 28, 2015, 08:23:07 PM
Quote from: larryin89 on August 28, 2015, 08:11:43 PM
Subs bench named yet ? Will regan make the cut ?
No and No. Sweeney is in instead of Regan.Also Stephen Coen has been drafted in
How do you know if it's not been named? If true fuckin stupid , what in the name of Christ is the reason for the reluctance to name regan ? Conroy out regan in surely in any language.
He was on the bench the last day wasn't he?
Yes he was but poster above has indicated he isn't for Sunday . Tracksuit off the last day too midway through second half , then Holmes told him to come back and sit down . AvB game before Connacht final , Mike Connelly/Connolly quoted as saying " regan showed very well in the game" I just don't get why he's not given a shot .Sligo game not on the bench , Donegal game nearly put on . I'm a bit confused about it all , was actually dreaming he was been kept for this one as surprise package ,dubs wouldn't have a clue who he is .
Regan is coming back from a serious double blow of a tricky injury. Management have to be convinced with whoever they go with at this stage. Regan could be a gamble. It could be a masterstroke or backfire if he is not up to speed.
All I can say is when he was flying Horan didn t like the cut of him and there were few people wondering what was going on. I don t think his absence is an issue now.
The song Superheroes by the script reminds me of AOS
I suppose alot of players are playing for places on the Dublin team, i think there strongest team would have O`Gara (out) McCauley, Costello, Fitzsimmons on, Where did Kevin Nolan ever go to?
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I suppose alot of players are playing for places on the Dublin team, i think there strongest team would have O`Gara (out) McCauley, Costello, Fitzsimmons on, Where did Kevin Nolan ever go to?
K Nolan has bad diabetes. ...... .... mdma is out of form, id imagine he will get a run on the day though
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on August 28, 2015, 11:24:14 PM
I suppose alot of players are playing for places on the Dublin team, i think there strongest team would have O`Gara (out) McCauley, Costello, Fitzsimmons on, Where did Kevin Nolan ever go to?
Kevin has diabetes and just can't train at this level anymore.
Desperate shame for a brilliant player
yes he was very good, i think he was playing against Derry in the league in Celtic park last year 2014. Mannion be a lost not coming of the bench too, suprising for a large number of clubs that Dublin do not seem to have more big midfielders available to them. Ross McConnell seemed to have disappeared too
If we're relying on Evan Regan to solve our woes, then we are not in good shape at all. For all the talk on here about him, most justified, introducing him against Dublin, having played a few minutes of competitive inter-county level this year wouldn't make much sense.
Quote from: Farrandeelin on August 29, 2015, 09:35:19 AM
If we're relying on Evan Regan to solve our woes, then we are not in good shape at all. For all the talk on here about him, most justified, introducing him against Dublin, having played a few minutes of competitive inter-county level this year wouldn't make much sense.
Fair enough Farr and I know your sentiment is rational and right in most Mayo supporters view but I'm sticking to my guns as I have for the last 3/4 years now , he has the ability to be a top player for Mayo and should be given a chance . He offers something different to our forward line , both ronaldson and mickey Sweeney are two of a kind , harsh as it may sound to me it's jus nonsensical to have two of them on the bench if regan is fit to go.
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If we're relying on Evan Regan to solve our woes, then we are not in good shape at all. For all the talk on here about him, most justified, introducing him against Dublin, having played a few minutes of competitive inter-county level this year wouldn't make much sense.
Fair enough Farr and I know your sentiment is rational and right in most Mayo supporters view but I'm sticking to my guns as I have for the last 3/4 years now , he has the ability to be a top player for Mayo and should be given a chance . He offers something different to our forward line , both ronaldson and mickey Sweeney are two of a kind , harsh as it may sound to me it's jus nonsensical to have two of them on the bench if regan is fit to go.
Would agree with Larry.
IF Regan is fit and going well I'd have him on the bench. He's a citeóg too which is another reason to give him the nod.
Can't wait for this game now, the nerves will be shot tomorrow but they usually are anyway so no change there. Not expecting a cracker, think it could be dour enough, at least I hope so as that would increase our chances of winning. If we continue to improve defensively and come anyway close to disrupting Cluxton we'll win and by a few IMO. That second one is a massive if though, the result rests on it.
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Can't see MDMA not starting. Silly games from Mr. Smiley.
Also think Alan Brogan may start.
Caff usually marks Brogan but I wonder would it be better this time going with Keith on BB? Caff could pick up Dean Rock or whoever might appear at FF, with Chris Barrett going to war on Andrews. Keegan will most likely follow Connelly as usual, while I think Vaughan will pick up Flynn (probably the two fittest men in GAA!). That leaves Boyler on Kilkenny plus whatever sweeper arrangement we come up with this time. Of course there might be a surprise or two before the throw in.
For all of the understandable talk about the Dublin forwards, if Higgins and Keegan play well picking up, say, BB and Connelly, it isn't too big an ask to hope for the other backs to win at least 2 of the other battles. Of course the Dubs will be optimistic with these match ups as well.
We simply have to win midfield though and that means either pressing Cluxton's outs, or turning over ball from their runners, or both! The rare times any team manages this Dublin can look vulnerable. Fail in these areas and Dublin can run up a big score quickly.
Up front we haven't fallen into the trap of simply lamping hopeful ball on top of AOXI and letting him do everything. Tomorrow would be a bad day to start that. Doherty, Parsons and Cillian can all take points from distance and I would love to see a few early examples of this to force Dublin to defend more space. The high ball to Aidan should be the old Armagh-style diagonal ball or very quick delivery from turnovers etc.
I am usually optimistic and this weekend is no different. C'mon Mayo!
Should be a great final tomorrow
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Should be a great final tomorrow
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Trying to chill out and just enjoy the occasion and the game. Not going well so far. There's the slight hint of butterflies already. It's amazing how caught up in watching lads kicking (and even more so punching) a bag of wind we can get. But sure that's what makes the bad days bad and the really good days great.
Somewhere to go in Dublin on Saturday night.
http://www.dublingaa.ie/news/legends-to-tog-out-for-beann-eadair-pitch-opening
Too close to call (thankfully!) but I think Mayo now have a forward line that can win an All Ireland. Parsons is the game changing addition this year as it's allowed them push O'Shea up to full forward without weakening their midfield. Dublin still have the better forwards but Mayo the better backs, though neither by a significant margin. Mayo have the better midfield pairing but that is not the advantage it used to be. I've seen a few people mention Rock as a quality player but he wouldn't make either panel, let alone team, if he couldn't kick a free IMO. This could be a major advantage for Mayo as I don't think Mayo need a sweeper against the Dublin full forward line so they should be able to push up on Dublin's kickouts. Really looking forward to this and I expect the game of the year to unfold.
The Dubs:Story of a Season on rte 2 now.
Quote from: Zulu on August 29, 2015, 08:12:26 PM
Too close to call (thankfully!) but I think Mayo now have a forward line that can win an All Ireland. Parsons is the game changing addition this year as it's allowed them push O'Shea up to full forward without weakening their midfield. Dublin still have the better forwards but Mayo the better backs, though neither by a significant margin. Mayo have the better midfield pairing but that is not the advantage it used to be. I've seen a few people mention Rock as a quality player but he wouldn't make either panel, let alone team, if he couldn't kick a free IMO. This could be a major advantage for Mayo as I don't think Mayo need a sweeper against the Dublin full forward line so they should be able to push up on Dublin's kickouts. Really looking forward to this and I expect the game of the year to unfold.
Wouldn't call AOS a forward line;
Dublin have significantly better forwards, I wouldn't even say mayo have better defenders;
I'm glad you're not the manager;
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I've a sneaky feeling Dublin will do it.
The Stars have aligned for Mayo in 2015 . Believe .
Feck it Indy, I wish I could. Every time I think about Sunday, I see Dublin winning by more. I think Dublin are a totally different level to anyone Mayo have faced this year. Mayo need to have all the luck in the world to win. That's why I think Dublin will do the job on Sunday.
Do I not recall you saying that Dublin can be beaten Far???
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Too close to call (thankfully!) but I think Mayo now have a forward line that can win an All Ireland. Parsons is the game changing addition this year as it's allowed them push O'Shea up to full forward without weakening their midfield. Dublin still have the better forwards but Mayo the better backs, though neither by a significant margin. Mayo have the better midfield pairing but that is not the advantage it used to be. I've seen a few people mention Rock as a quality player but he wouldn't make either panel, let alone team, if he couldn't kick a free IMO. This could be a major advantage for Mayo as I don't think Mayo need a sweeper against the Dublin full forward line so they should be able to push up on Dublin's kickouts. Really looking forward to this and I expect the game of the year to unfold.
Wouldn't call AOS a forward line;
Dublin have significantly better forwards, I wouldn't even say mayo have better defenders;
I'm glad you're not the manager;
Sure what's the point getting outa bed in the morning? Why do we bother fielding teams for competitions? We may as well lie down and die.
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Too close to call (thankfully!) but I think Mayo now have a forward line that can win an All Ireland. Parsons is the game changing addition this year as it's allowed them push O'Shea up to full forward without weakening their midfield. Dublin still have the better forwards but Mayo the better backs, though neither by a significant margin. Mayo have the better midfield pairing but that is not the advantage it used to be. I've seen a few people mention Rock as a quality player but he wouldn't make either panel, let alone team, if he couldn't kick a free IMO. This could be a major advantage for Mayo as I don't think Mayo need a sweeper against the Dublin full forward line so they should be able to push up on Dublin's kickouts. Really looking forward to this and I expect the game of the year to unfold.
Wouldn't call AOS a forward line;
Dublin have significantly better forwards, I wouldn't even say mayo have better defenders;
I'm glad you're not the manager;
Sure what's the point getting outa bed in the morning? Why do we bother fielding teams for competitions? We may as well lie down and die.
Just pointing it out
I have that tool on ignore moy.
I probably did islamae, but me being me brings pessimism to the board.
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I have that tool on ignore moy.
I probably did islamae, but me being me brings pessimism to the board.
Me?
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Too close to call (thankfully!) but I think Mayo now have a forward line that can win an All Ireland. Parsons is the game changing addition this year as it's allowed them push O'Shea up to full forward without weakening their midfield. Dublin still have the better forwards but Mayo the better backs, though neither by a significant margin. Mayo have the better midfield pairing but that is not the advantage it used to be. I've seen a few people mention Rock as a quality player but he wouldn't make either panel, let alone team, if he couldn't kick a free IMO. This could be a major advantage for Mayo as I don't think Mayo need a sweeper against the Dublin full forward line so they should be able to push up on Dublin's kickouts. Really looking forward to this and I expect the game of the year to unfold.
Wouldn't call AOS a forward line;
Dublin have significantly better forwards, I wouldn't even say mayo have better defenders;
I'm glad you're not the manager;
Sure what's the point getting outa bed in the morning? Why do we bother fielding teams for competitions? We may as well lie down and die.
Just pointing it out
Selling out more like.
Ok, as long as you re staying away and not using up a ticket. I know people who love this team and have been to all the games but can t get tickets.
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Too close to call (thankfully!) but I think Mayo now have a forward line that can win an All Ireland. Parsons is the game changing addition this year as it's allowed them push O'Shea up to full forward without weakening their midfield. Dublin still have the better forwards but Mayo the better backs, though neither by a significant margin. Mayo have the better midfield pairing but that is not the advantage it used to be. I've seen a few people mention Rock as a quality player but he wouldn't make either panel, let alone team, if he couldn't kick a free IMO. This could be a major advantage for Mayo as I don't think Mayo need a sweeper against the Dublin full forward line so they should be able to push up on Dublin's kickouts. Really looking forward to this and I expect the game of the year to unfold.
Wouldn't call AOS a forward line;
Dublin have significantly better forwards, I wouldn't even say mayo have better defenders;
I'm glad you're not the manager;
Sure what's the point getting outa bed in the morning? Why do we bother fielding teams for competitions? We may as well lie down and die.
Just pointing it out
Selling out more like.
Ok, as long as you re staying away and not using up a ticket. I know people who love this team and have been to all the games but can t get tickets.
I do love this team, I have a season ticket and have been at every game, I'm was just giving an honest opinion that I think Dublin have better forwards
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Too close to call (thankfully!) but I think Mayo now have a forward line that can win an All Ireland. Parsons is the game changing addition this year as it's allowed them push O'Shea up to full forward without weakening their midfield. Dublin still have the better forwards but Mayo the better backs, though neither by a significant margin. Mayo have the better midfield pairing but that is not the advantage it used to be. I've seen a few people mention Rock as a quality player but he wouldn't make either panel, let alone team, if he couldn't kick a free IMO. This could be a major advantage for Mayo as I don't think Mayo need a sweeper against the Dublin full forward line so they should be able to push up on Dublin's kickouts. Really looking forward to this and I expect the game of the year to unfold.
Wouldn't call AOS a forward line;
Dublin have significantly better forwards, I wouldn't even say mayo have better defenders;
I'm glad you're not the manager;
Sure what's the point getting outa bed in the morning? Why do we bother fielding teams for competitions? We may as well lie down and die.
Just pointing it out
Selling out more like.
Ok, as long as you re staying away and not using up a ticket. I know people who love this team and have been to all the games but can t get tickets.
I do love this team, I have a season ticket and have been at every game, I'm was just giving an honest opinion that I think Dublin have better forwards
We heard you first time! You don t have to repeat it ad nauseam.
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Too close to call (thankfully!) but I think Mayo now have a forward line that can win an All Ireland. Parsons is the game changing addition this year as it's allowed them push O'Shea up to full forward without weakening their midfield. Dublin still have the better forwards but Mayo the better backs, though neither by a significant margin. Mayo have the better midfield pairing but that is not the advantage it used to be. I've seen a few people mention Rock as a quality player but he wouldn't make either panel, let alone team, if he couldn't kick a free IMO. This could be a major advantage for Mayo as I don't think Mayo need a sweeper against the Dublin full forward line so they should be able to push up on Dublin's kickouts. Really looking forward to this and I expect the game of the year to unfold.
Wouldn't call AOS a forward line;
Dublin have significantly better forwards, I wouldn't even say mayo have better defenders;
I'm glad you're not the manager;
Sure what's the point getting outa bed in the morning? Why do we bother fielding teams for competitions? We may as well lie down and die.
Just pointing it out
Selling out more like.
Ok, as long as you re staying away and not using up a ticket. I know people who love this team and have been to all the games but can t get tickets.
I do love this team, I have a season ticket and have been at every game, I'm was just giving an honest opinion that I think Dublin have better forwards
We heard you first time! You don t have to repeat it ad nauseam.
Sorry
Dublin don't have a significantly better forward line. Andrews isn't any better than a lot of the Mayo forwards and Rock is not an IC forward (though he is an exceptional free-taker). Flynn seems to be hampered by injury and if he maintains the form of recent games then he isn't a major improvement on Mayo's forwards either. Doc has improved immeasurably from the man he was and is a significant improvement for Mayo so to say Mayo haven't a forward-line to match Dublin in 2015 is nonsense.
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Quote from: Zulu on August 29, 2015, 08:12:26 PM
Too close to call (thankfully!) but I think Mayo now have a forward line that can win an All Ireland. Parsons is the game changing addition this year as it's allowed them push O'Shea up to full forward without weakening their midfield. Dublin still have the better forwards but Mayo the better backs, though neither by a significant margin. Mayo have the better midfield pairing but that is not the advantage it used to be. I've seen a few people mention Rock as a quality player but he wouldn't make either panel, let alone team, if he couldn't kick a free IMO. This could be a major advantage for Mayo as I don't think Mayo need a sweeper against the Dublin full forward line so they should be able to push up on Dublin's kickouts. Really looking forward to this and I expect the game of the year to unfold.
Wouldn't call AOS a forward line;
Dublin have significantly better forwards, I wouldn't even say mayo have better defenders;
I'm glad you're not the manager;
Sure what's the point getting outa bed in the morning? Why do we bother fielding teams for competitions? We may as well lie down and die.
Just pointing it out
Selling out more like.
Ok, as long as you re staying away and not using up a ticket. I know people who love this team and have been to all the games but can t get tickets.
I do love this team, I have a season ticket and have been at every game, I'm was just giving an honest opinion that I think Dublin have better forwards
We heard you first time! You don t have to repeat it ad nauseam.
Sorry
Pressure starting to show lads? :D
Quote from: Zulu on August 29, 2015, 11:11:59 PM
Dublin don't have a significantly better forward line. Andrews isn't any better than a lot of the Mayo forwards and Rock is not an IC forward (though he is an exceptional free-taker). Flynn seems to be hampered by injury and if he maintains the form of recent games then he isn't a major improvement on Mayo's forwards either. Doc has improved immeasurably from the man he was and is a significant improvement for Mayo so to say Mayo haven't a forward-line to match Dublin in 2015 is nonsense.
Dean Rock not an IC forward? He has scored 2-19 in four championship games and 2-6 of those scores were from play. No a bad return for someone who is "not an IC forward".
Quote from: Zulu on August 29, 2015, 11:11:59 PM
Dublin don't have a significantly better forward line. Andrews isn't any better than a lot of the Mayo forwards and Rock is not an IC forward (though he is an exceptional free-taker). Flynn seems to be hampered by injury and if he maintains the form of recent games then he isn't a major improvement on Mayo's forwards either. Doc has improved immeasurably from the man he was and is a significant improvement for Mayo so to say Mayo haven't a forward-line to match Dublin in 2015 is nonsense.
Rock has scored 2-19 in 4 championship games (and 1-52 in 9 league games) in 2015. Yes, much of that was from frees, but if that return doesn't count as an IC forward, I don't know what does.
Will this surpass the Kerry/ Tyrone thread for the number of pages?
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Too close to call (thankfully!) but I think Mayo now have a forward line that can win an All Ireland. Parsons is the game changing addition this year as it's allowed them push O'Shea up to full forward without weakening their midfield. Dublin still have the better forwards but Mayo the better backs, though neither by a significant margin. Mayo have the better midfield pairing but that is not the advantage it used to be. I've seen a few people mention Rock as a quality player but he wouldn't make either panel, let alone team, if he couldn't kick a free IMO. This could be a major advantage for Mayo as I don't think Mayo need a sweeper against the Dublin full forward line so they should be able to push up on Dublin's kickouts. Really looking forward to this and I expect the game of the year to unfold.
Wouldn't call AOS a forward line;
Dublin have significantly better forwards, I wouldn't even say mayo have better defenders;
I'm glad you're not the manager;
Sure what's the point getting outa bed in the morning? Why do we bother fielding teams for competitions? We may as well lie down and die.
Just pointing it out
Selling out more like.
Ok, as long as you re staying away and not using up a ticket. I know people who love this team and have been to all the games but can t get tickets.
I do love this team, I have a season ticket and have been at every game, I'm was just giving an honest opinion that I think Dublin have better forwards
We heard you first time! You don t have to repeat it ad nauseam.
Sorry
Pressure starting to show lads? :D
No. I m happy enough with our lot. Can t imagine how we could be much better. But I m not confident we ll be that much better to offset the home advantage. Teams like Dublin, Kerry, Mayo, Donegal and Tyrone don t get beaten at home too often in championship. Not an excuse, it's just life. An extravagant advantage to the Dubs but that's the way it is. And please don t come back with a counter argument because there is none.
The bit of a shafting Tyrone got last week and the tanking we got last year from referee has me wary as well. Oliver Stone would be the man to make a film about gaelic football.
I wonder is there another hack out there preparing a Kerry/Dublin rivalry book a la Tom Humphries in 06.
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Too close to call (thankfully!) but I think Mayo now have a forward line that can win an All Ireland. Parsons is the game changing addition this year as it's allowed them push O'Shea up to full forward without weakening their midfield. Dublin still have the better forwards but Mayo the better backs, though neither by a significant margin. Mayo have the better midfield pairing but that is not the advantage it used to be. I've seen a few people mention Rock as a quality player but he wouldn't make either panel, let alone team, if he couldn't kick a free IMO. This could be a major advantage for Mayo as I don't think Mayo need a sweeper against the Dublin full forward line so they should be able to push up on Dublin's kickouts. Really looking forward to this and I expect the game of the year to unfold.
Wouldn't call AOS a forward line;
Dublin have significantly better forwards, I wouldn't even say mayo have better defenders;
I'm glad you're not the manager;
Sure what's the point getting outa bed in the morning? Why do we bother fielding teams for competitions? We may as well lie down and die.
Just pointing it out
Selling out more like.
Ok, as long as you re staying away and not using up a ticket. I know people who love this team and have been to all the games but can t get tickets.
I do love this team, I have a season ticket and have been at every game, I'm was just giving an honest opinion that I think Dublin have better forwards
We heard you first time! You don t have to repeat it ad nauseam.
Sorry
Pressure starting to show lads? :D
No. I m happy enough with our lot. Can t imagine how we could be much better. But I m not confident we ll be that much better to offset the home advantage. Teams like Dublin, Kerry, Mayo, Donegal and Tyrone don t get beaten at home too often in championship. Not an excuse, it's just life. An extravagant advantage to the Dubs but that's the way it is. And please don t come back with a counter argument because there is none.
The bit of a shafting Tyrone got last week and the tanking we got last year from referee has me wary as well. Oliver Stone would be the man to make a film about gaelic football.
I wonder is there another hack out there preparing a Kerry/Dublin rivalry book a la Tom Humphries in 06.
Good luck tomorrow.
Stay safe ;)
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Too close to call (thankfully!) but I think Mayo now have a forward line that can win an All Ireland. Parsons is the game changing addition this year as it's allowed them push O'Shea up to full forward without weakening their midfield. Dublin still have the better forwards but Mayo the better backs, though neither by a significant margin. Mayo have the better midfield pairing but that is not the advantage it used to be. I've seen a few people mention Rock as a quality player but he wouldn't make either panel, let alone team, if he couldn't kick a free IMO. This could be a major advantage for Mayo as I don't think Mayo need a sweeper against the Dublin full forward line so they should be able to push up on Dublin's kickouts. Really looking forward to this and I expect the game of the year to unfold.
Wouldn't call AOS a forward line;
Dublin have significantly better forwards, I wouldn't even say mayo have better defenders;
I'm glad you're not the manager;
Sure what's the point getting outa bed in the morning? Why do we bother fielding teams for competitions? We may as well lie down and die.
Just pointing it out
Selling out more like.
Ok, as long as you re staying away and not using up a ticket. I know people who love this team and have been to all the games but can t get tickets.
I do love this team, I have a season ticket and have been at every game, I'm was just giving an honest opinion that I think Dublin have better forwards
We heard you first time! You don t have to repeat it ad nauseam.
Sorry
Pressure starting to show lads? :D
No. I m happy enough with our lot. Can t imagine how we could be much better. But I m not confident we ll be that much better to offset the home advantage. Teams like Dublin, Kerry, Mayo, Donegal and Tyrone don t get beaten at home too often in championship. Not an excuse, it's just life. An extravagant advantage to the Dubs but that's the way it is. And please don t come back with a counter argument because there is none.
The bit of a shafting Tyrone got last week and the tanking we got last year from referee has me wary as well. Oliver Stone would be the man to make a film about gaelic football.
I wonder is there another hack out there preparing a Kerry/Dublin rivalry book a la Tom Humphries in 06.
Good luck tomorrow.
Stay safe ;)
Likewise. Ah yeah. Days like this are special for some of us. We won t have days like this when we're pushing up daisies.
Game day lads.
A few final thoughts with a few clichès thrown in:
- Fitness will be key and both benches will be emptied. Some players will be doing almost 15kms for 70 mins. Most of that will be sprinting.
- Make no mistake, the pressure will be on Dublin after last years defeat to Donegal. Expect some early nerves from both teams though.
- Goals win games. The first Mayo ball should be let in on top of AOS. Test them early.
- Mcloughlin needs to step up and take the frees from the left. That one in the first half that Cillian missed was the one that upset his confidence.
- McAuley will start in place of Bastick.
Safe traveling to all attending. We're not turning up to make up the numbers. The crowd really need to be vocal.
May(o) the best team win :)
Come on Mayo!!!!
Indeed moy, well said. The best Mayo team in my dwys of following them. I'm sure my post re Evan Regan yesterdsy was seen for what it is, that I would just be worried about throwing him in the 'lions den' v Dublin.
Feeling uneasily calm. I know that, win, lose, or draw the team will do their best. That's all I can ask for.
Maigh Eo abú.
Today's the day, can't wait!
Good luck to Mayo.
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on August 29, 2015, 11:22:01 PM
Quote from: Zulu on August 29, 2015, 11:11:59 PM
Dublin don't have a significantly better forward line. Andrews isn't any better than a lot of the Mayo forwards and Rock is not an IC forward (though he is an exceptional free-taker). Flynn seems to be hampered by injury and if he maintains the form of recent games then he isn't a major improvement on Mayo's forwards either. Doc has improved immeasurably from the man he was and is a significant improvement for Mayo so to say Mayo haven't a forward-line to match Dublin in 2015 is nonsense.
Dean Rock not an IC forward? He has scored 2-19 in four championship games and 2-6 of those scores were from play. No a bad return for someone who is "not an IC forward".
It's far too harsh to say he's not an IC forward, as given a bit of space there's not many in the country more reliable at taking a score. But he's not going to win a 50/50 against a strong IC defender and he wouldnt be starting if he wasn't our freetaker. But also he's untested in starting a match at this level, so we'll only really know how good he can be or how weak he might be by 5pm this evening
Would it be correct to say if you're not from Dublin or possibly Galway you'll be supporting mayo today?
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on August 30, 2015, 07:16:06 AM
Today's the day, can't wait!
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Good luck mayo but for goodness sake only win please if ye are committed to turning up in 3 weeks time.
Last time I was this hungover it was 2006.....it's written in the stars.
This will all end in :'( :'( :'(
Safe journey to anyone travelling. Mayo by 2 :)
Oh, and I hear there's ructions in the Mayo camp, AOS and Higgins dropped
Quote from: macdanger2 on August 30, 2015, 10:18:08 AM
Oh, and I hear there's ructions in the Mayo camp, AOS and Higgins dropped
Fergal Kelly starting at midfield .
Anyone got spare tickets.
A Dublin friend of mine needs two or three preferably for the Hill as he wants to take his sons.
Quote from: Jell 0 Biafra on August 29, 2015, 11:23:41 PM
Quote from: Zulu on August 29, 2015, 11:11:59 PM
Dublin don't have a significantly better forward line. Andrews isn't any better than a lot of the Mayo forwards and Rock is not an IC forward (though he is an exceptional free-taker). Flynn seems to be hampered by injury and if he maintains the form of recent games then he isn't a major improvement on Mayo's forwards either. Doc has improved immeasurably from the man he was and is a significant improvement for Mayo so to say Mayo haven't a forward-line to match Dublin in 2015 is nonsense.
Rock has scored 2-19 in 4 championship games (and 1-52 in 9 league games) in 2015. Yes, much of that was from frees, but if that return doesn't count as an IC forward, I don't know what does.
He is not even close to being an IC forward lads. The 2-6 he got from play was while playing in one of the best teams in Ireland against largely division 3 standard teams, if your corner forward wasn't getting at least that you'd be wondering if he played the game at all. He wins little or no 50/50 ball and isn't a player who will worry opposition managers.
Quote from: Hound on August 30, 2015, 07:52:24 AM
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on August 29, 2015, 11:22:01 PM
Quote from: Zulu on August 29, 2015, 11:11:59 PM
Dublin don't have a significantly better forward line. Andrews isn't any better than a lot of the Mayo forwards and Rock is not an IC forward (though he is an exceptional free-taker). Flynn seems to be hampered by injury and if he maintains the form of recent games then he isn't a major improvement on Mayo's forwards either. Doc has improved immeasurably from the man he was and is a significant improvement for Mayo so to say Mayo haven't a forward-line to match Dublin in 2015 is nonsense.
Dean Rock not an IC forward? He has scored 2-19 in four championship games and 2-6 of those scores were from play. No a bad return for someone who is "not an IC forward".
It's far too harsh to say he's not an IC forward, as given a bit of space there's not many in the country more reliable at taking a score. But he's not going to win a 50/50 against a strong IC defender and he wouldnt be starting if he wasn't our freetaker. But also he's untested in starting a match at this level, so we'll only really know how good he can be or how weak he might be by 5pm this evening
Sorry, just saw your post Hound and you articulate what I'm trying to say though I would stand over my view that he isn't IC because there are a good few players who can kick a score given time but 'IC standard' players can do it when they aren't given time. More importantly, they can win ball and as you say Rock doesn't win 50/50 ball and he can't shake off defenders like the top players can. In saying that he'll probably kick 3-10 from play today and I'll spend my Sunday night trying to defend my earlier posts :)
All week I'd been thinking Mayo will take them. Wobbling now. Mayo have a lot of fires to fight before they can think about imposing their game. Their middle 8 will have their hands full.
Draw. Or Dublin by 1,3 or 5. Or Mayo by 2,4 or 6.
Dublin have far more invested in this and after last year they have to win this All Ireland. Dublin by 6.
It feels like ages since the Dubs played doesn't it.
I've watched them a lot the last few years and they remind me of a water dam.
They build up a certain pressure and then once they get their inevitable first goal then BAM its the dam burssts and they blow teams away. A bit like Tyrone last week if Mayo can not allow them to get off to a good Start and especially not concede goals then they will have a chance.
Last year Dublin were kicking amazing points from 40 yards and all angles in the first half but then they lost that confidence and scores they usually could take with ease then seemed impossible.
This is where this game will be won and lost I reckon.
If Mayo play it as open as the Donegal game they will lose.
I think the Dubs will have learned a lot from last year's defeat but as usual will suffer from playing poor teams thus far. They didn't even get a tough quarterfinal game.
So... a winner?
Nope. A DRAW
Anyone selling any tickets? PM me
Looking forward to this one. Mayo by 2
Apparently the word inside the Dublin camp is that Diarmuid Connolly will go in full forward
Dubs by about 5,no doubt in my mind here. I'd be shocked to see Mayo win.
Hopefully this game lives up to its high expectations of a classic.
Quote from: Captain Obvious on August 30, 2015, 02:27:25 PM
Hopefully this game lives up to its high expectations of a classic.
The kiss of death from the Cap'n.
I've heard Cillian O'Connor is out with a knee injury
Dublin by 10
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on August 30, 2015, 01:45:26 PM
Apparently the word inside the Dublin camp is that Diarmuid Connolly will go in full forward
He killed Tyrone from in there a few years ago.
David Drake in to make his championship debut for Mayo. Big call
David f**king Drake?
Nice as is it to see a Rossie starting that is so far left-field I cannot understand the thinking. Was so far down the pecking order that I wasn't even sure he was still on the panel. First ever championship start.
Any streams for this game?
Quote from: Syferus on August 30, 2015, 03:20:49 PM
David f**king Drake?
Nice as is it to see a Rossie starting that is so far left-field I cannot understand the thinking. Was so far down the pecking order that I wasn't even sure he was still on the panel. First ever championship start.
Biggest day for Roscommonfootball in 35 years perhaps.
Quote from: wildrover on August 30, 2015, 03:21:18 PM
Any streams for this game?
http://www.time4tv.com/2011/09/sky-sports-3.php
Quote from: Hardy on August 30, 2015, 03:25:51 PM
Quote from: wildrover on August 30, 2015, 03:21:18 PM
Any streams for this game?
http://www.time4tv.com/2011/09/sky-sports-3.php
Also http://cricfree.tv/sky-sports-3-live-stream-3
Fingers and toes crossed for mayo. Good luck
Black card foul ignored
Dublin Joe living up to his name >:(
Definitely a foul but it was outside the box, should have been a 14 yard free.
Dolan is brutal in co commentary role so far.
Joe McQuillan is going for his 3rd AI medal since 2011. Quite a record.
Mayo need to calm down and compose themselves.
The thirteenth minute applause. Excellent.
The Dubs are bringing some intensity to this. Mayo struggling to cope at the minute.
2black card offences by Dublin let go so far >:(
MD took some amount of steps there in the lead up to Brogans point.
Very poor quality game so far.
Should have been a straight red there.
Jesus, that was a dirty action.
Cooper very lucky to get away with that.
Never a foul on Keegan there.
Philly McMahon telling AOS he was hard done by cos the dubs don't do sledging!
The long ball in not working for Mayo
Mayo if anything are overdoing the route one high ball into AOS. Might pay off for them yet though.
The Dubs are letting Mayo back into this match with all this fouling.
Same Mayo story. Don't have the forwards.
McQuillan is very quick to blow up for too many steps for Mayo but not quite as quick when Dublin do it.
Are any Mayo forwards going to get up and support Aiden O'Se?
Edit: Dublin are easily the most cynical team in the country!
McQuillan riding Mayo. Clear cut penalty there. Two players BOTH fouling O shea. Mayo getting called for over carrying.
Bad tempered niggly poor quality match. If this was 2 Ulster teams there would be an outcry.
Clear Cut Yellow card ignored
Unbelievable to watch Mayo forwards carrying the ball into possession against Dublin. Have they watched no football in five years?
Quite literally don't have the forwards! where is the support for O Shea? No point in Cillian O Connor jogging from one free to the next! Needs to stand up in the big games.
McQuillan is killing Mayo here. O'Shea is a beast surely he'll get a goal at some stage. Looks like Mayo just don't have the class in the inside forward line to win this.
Disgusting by Dublin, in particular Cooper and McMahon.
Mcquillan must have money on the dubs the way he's treating mayo at present.
Dubs are masters at fouling to interrupt momentum and know exactly what to do to avoid a black card. Mayo shooting is brutal.....again!
Truly awful spectacle this.
Quote from: yellowcard on August 30, 2015, 04:10:21 PM
Truly awful spectacle this.
Brutal stuff indeed. I wonder is the cricket on...
Not the classic as build so far. Mayo not playing well only one point from play however only three points behind.
It's just something Vaughan would do, go in wild and do his own shoulder in a shoulder tackle. Bad luck for the lad and for Mayo.
Mayo living on Dublin's fouling. Very little structure to Mayo's attack while Dublin look clinical at the other end.
Quote from: Hardy on August 30, 2015, 04:12:57 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on August 30, 2015, 04:10:21 PM
Truly awful spectacle this.
So "awful" I can't take my eyes off it. You are watching a different game to me
Absorbing contest.
Quote from: haze on August 30, 2015, 04:14:58 PM
Quote from: Hardy on August 30, 2015, 04:12:57 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on August 30, 2015, 04:10:21 PM
Truly awful spectacle this.
So "awful" I can't take my eyes off it. You are watching a different game to me
That's only because it's relatively close and an AI semi final. Poor quality, I think Keegan got Mayos only point from play
Quote from: BennyCake on August 30, 2015, 04:06:52 PM
Quote from: brianboru00 on August 30, 2015, 04:05:51 PM
Clear Cut Yellow card ignored
McQuillan hasn't a clue.
I'm going to withdraw that remark as that pull of the jersey is not a black or yellow card offence according to the official rules of the game. . It's actually just a "noting" infraction.
The Dublin tackling is shocking. Zero discipline.
Good job for Mayo Aiden OShea has a calm head on him. A different kind of a player would have lashed out at this stage
Dean Rock is anonymous.
O Shea has the beating of McMahon.
That's a mismatch all day long.
Dublin fouling keeping Mayo in it.
One point from play.none from a forward.
All Dublins points from play.
Was never a pen. Outside the box
Joe McQuillan has been poor. A penalty that wasn't. And free out that should have been a penalty. Some soft frees. Dublin's 3pt advantage doesn't do justice to how better drilled they are. Lol at JB did he just say shite?
Do you think this will take the heat off the 'Northern Teams' and this myth that we're the only teams who play like this?
Terrible game but absorbing contest. Mayo all the possession but not converting whereas Dublin making the most of their chances.
Dublins tactical/cynical fouling is a sight to behold!!
Mayo's lack of forwards really the issue!
Quote from: haze on August 30, 2015, 04:14:58 PM
Quote from: Hardy on August 30, 2015, 04:12:57 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on August 30, 2015, 04:10:21 PM
Truly awful spectacle this.
So "awful" I can't take my eyes off it. You are watching a different game to me
What's going on here? That's not my quote! (Hardy here)
Desperate stuff with Dublin's level of cynicism beyond anything I have ever seen.
Quote from: BluestackBoy on August 30, 2015, 04:19:26 PM
Desperate stuff with Dublin's level of cynicism beyond anything I have ever seen.
Would you stop!
Cynical, nasty game. Joe McQuillan, Dublins personal ref is helping them out as usual. Absolutely scandalous.
Quote from: Hardy on August 30, 2015, 04:19:17 PM
Quote from: haze on August 30, 2015, 04:14:58 PM
Quote from: Hardy on August 30, 2015, 04:12:57 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on August 30, 2015, 04:10:21 PM
Truly awful spectacle this.
So "awful" I can't take my eyes off it. You are watching a different game to me
What's going on here? That's not my quote! (Hardy here)
Was trying to agree with you!! Didnt know how to fix
Anyway sunday game says its a terrible terrible game. Must be true so
I can't really be that surprised that the Ulster lads are trying to make a match between Mayo and Dublin about them.
But still, cop on. Leave the chip on the shoulder stuff for later.
Quote from: BluestackBoy on August 30, 2015, 04:19:26 PM
Desperate stuff with Dublin's level of cynicism beyond anything I have ever seen.
Looks like the 2 most cynical teams in the country are going to be in the final this year. Some of the fouls Dublin are getting away with, feel sorry for Aos.
Quote from: Hardy on August 30, 2015, 04:21:12 PM
Quote from: BluestackBoy on August 30, 2015, 04:19:26 PM
Desperate stuff with Dublin's level of cynicism beyond anything I have ever seen.
Would you stop!
This is pure shite with Mayo scoring 0-6 from frees for Christ's sake!!!.
All we'll be listening to for the coming week is how the ref was biased against Dublin because of the free count wheras the truth is they are fouling everywhere.
Quote from: Syferus on August 30, 2015, 04:23:35 PM
I can't really be that surprised that the Ulster lads are trying to make a match between Mayo and Sublin about them.
But still, cop on.
Its a bit like the way you make everything about Roscommon
Quote from: laoislad on August 30, 2015, 04:24:44 PM
Quote from: Syferus on August 30, 2015, 04:23:35 PM
I can't really be that surprised that the Ulster lads are trying to make a match between Mayo and Sublin about them.
But still, cop on.
Its a bit like the way you make everything about Roscommon
Hardly.
And to think some people say Football is fine as it is!!!
Quote from: Syferus on August 30, 2015, 04:23:35 PM
I can't really be that surprised that the Ulster lads are trying to make a match between Mayo and Sublin about them.
But still, cop on.
Do you think there's any less cynicism going on there than you'd see in an average Ulster game?
This is an absorbing match but is riddled with dirty digs, hauling down and late hits. Most of it coming from Dublin to be fair. Intriguing second half in store, hopefully Mayo can get the first few scores of the half and put Dublin under some pressure.
Quote from: BennyHarp on August 30, 2015, 04:26:34 PM
Quote from: Syferus on August 30, 2015, 04:23:35 PM
I can't really be that surprised that the Ulster lads are trying to make a match between Mayo and Sublin about them.
But still, cop on.
Do you think there's any less cynicism going on there than you'd see in an average Ulster game?
This is an absorbing match but is riddled with dirty digs, hauling down and late hits. Most of it coming from Dublin to be fair. Intriguing second half in store, hopefully Mayo can get the first few scores of the half and put Dublin under some pressure.
Plenty of cynicism in this match, never denied that. Just not the time or place for Ulster supporters to grind axes against perceived wrongs.
Brutal stuff Dubs are lucky to still have 15 men on the pitch and Mayo look clueless. Kerry will eat the pick of them. Football season this year has been extremely poor.
Quote from: BluestackBoy on August 30, 2015, 04:24:17 PM
Quote from: Hardy on August 30, 2015, 04:21:12 PM
Quote from: BluestackBoy on August 30, 2015, 04:19:26 PM
Desperate stuff with Dublin's level of cynicism beyond anything I have ever seen.
Would you stop!
This is pure shite with Mayo scoring 0-6 from frees for Christ's sake!!!.
All we'll be listening to for the coming week is how the ref was biased against Dublin because of the free count wheras the truth is they are fouling everywhere.
The most cynical you ever saw?
Apart from anything else, the "cynicism" wouldn't seem to be working. As you say - 0-6 from frees.
For everyone in Rte, most of Twitter and half the lads in here:
IF YOU GET DRAGGED TO THE GROUND EVERY f**king TIME YOU CROSS HALFWAY THEN 0-1 FROM PLAY IS ACTUALLY AN ACHIEVEMENT.
Quote from: Syferus on August 30, 2015, 04:27:41 PM
Quote from: BennyHarp on August 30, 2015, 04:26:34 PM
Quote from: Syferus on August 30, 2015, 04:23:35 PM
I can't really be that surprised that the Ulster lads are trying to make a match between Mayo and Sublin about them.
But still, cop on.
Do you think there's any less cynicism going on there than you'd see in an average Ulster game?
This is an absorbing match but is riddled with dirty digs, hauling down and late hits. Most of it coming from Dublin to be fair. Intriguing second half in store, hopefully Mayo can get the first few scores of the half and put Dublin under some pressure.
Plenty of cynicism in this match, never denied that. Just not the time or place for Ulster supporters to grind axes against perceived wrongs.
Syerfus, it's hardly surprising that we are venting a bit considering the finger wagging we have had to put up with.
Rory O'Carroll out for the game.
Certainly the game isn't matching my expectations but it isn't as bad as some are making out. Wouldn't agree Dublin are overly cynical or that the ref is riding them and there's no way Mayo should have had a penalty though neither should Dublin.
All of Mayo's forward line bar O'Shea have been curtailed with COC being particularly disappointing. Still there for Mayo if they can up its but but you just can't see their forwards kicking the scores they'll need at this juncture. They won't win it without a goal anyway.
Quote from: Syferus on August 30, 2015, 04:27:41 PM
Quote from: BennyHarp on August 30, 2015, 04:26:34 PM
Quote from: Syferus on August 30, 2015, 04:23:35 PM
I can't really be that surprised that the Ulster lads are trying to make a match between Mayo and Sublin about them.
But still, cop on.
Do you think there's any less cynicism going on there than you'd see in an average Ulster game?
This is an absorbing match but is riddled with dirty digs, hauling down and late hits. Most of it coming from Dublin to be fair. Intriguing second half in store, hopefully Mayo can get the first few scores of the half and put Dublin under some pressure.
Plenty of cynicism in this match, never denied that. Just not the time or place for Ulster supporters to grind axes against perceived wrongs.
If I could be bothered I'd go back and see your comments from during Tyrone games. I'm sure you were grinding plenty of axes then.
Dublin have coughed up 3 frees in the first 2 minutes of the second half.
Enough said.
Good start to the second half, fair play to Mayo for battling to stay in this.
McQuillan letting KMcM take too many steps AND 2 bounces there. But sure.......
Jeez some rotten stuff from Diarmuid Connolly!
Connolly is a lucky man today...
Connolly and McMahon at it too.....but sure.....no bias
O'Sullivan should have had his 2nd yellow there.
Same as last week. Ref at it. 2 bounces for mc menamen point. Missed headbutt. Dodd peno
Do the Dubs actually practise tackling?
Quote from: tyroneboi on August 30, 2015, 04:38:52 PM
O'Sullivan should have had his 2nd yellow there.
See above,the pull of the jersey was a noting offence only. That one there should have been a black card offence as he prevented him from joining the attack.
Dublin's indiscipline in the tackle could end up costing them this match.
Big O'Se went down white easily in the first half.
I've seen yellows given for that kind of thing.
(Once, ever)
Why oh why are Mayo allowing Dublin win every kickout
Quote from: brianboru00 on August 30, 2015, 04:40:21 PM
Quote from: tyroneboi on August 30, 2015, 04:38:52 PM
O'Sullivan should have had his 2nd yellow there.
See above,the pull of the jersey was a noting offence only. That one there should have been a black card offence as he prevented him from joining the attack.
Apologies thought it was a yellow card offence! Learn
Something new every day . . .
That's a pretty harsh black card.
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on August 30, 2015, 04:45:55 PM
That's a pretty harsh black card.
Agreed. It really needs to be re thought out the black card thing
There was worse than that one. But Dublin had a black coming.
I'd say there's hundreds of cats being kicked around Mayo as we speak.
Mayo will rue these chances, should be ahead.
Saved Gavin making the decision. McAuley was awful today.
Quote from: tyssam5 on August 30, 2015, 04:43:49 PM
Big O'Se went down white easily in the first half.
I've seen yellows given for that kind of thing.
(Once, ever)
Lads give it a f**king rest. You don't have to turn everything into a Tyrone whinge.
Quote from: tyssam5 on August 30, 2015, 04:46:44 PM
There was worse than that one. But Dublin had a black coming.
connolly should have a red
Quote from: tyroneboi on August 30, 2015, 04:44:55 PM
Quote from: brianboru00 on August 30, 2015, 04:40:21 PM
Quote from: tyroneboi on August 30, 2015, 04:38:52 PM
O'Sullivan should have had his 2nd yellow there.
See above,the pull of the jersey was a noting offence only. That one there should have been a black card offence as he prevented him from joining the attack.
Apologies thought it was a yellow card offence! Learn
Something new every day . . .
Only did myself while checking it there- an absolute farce that it itsn't AT LEAST a black
Mayo in danger of kicking it away
Jesus Andy Moran is useless!!
Mayo kicking it away. Their shooting against Donegal was not a one-off.
The free just given was for exactly the same type of tackling AoS was on the recieving end of all first half and getting nothing for....
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on August 30, 2015, 04:45:55 PM
That's a pretty harsh black card.
No harsher than Marc O Ses last week - correct decision
Game has got worse in this second half.
Dubs diving now!!!
can't be any decision here- black for the dublin lad versus yellow for O Se if anything but its actuallyu an innocuosu enough
Dublin are dreadful to watch
McMahon a tr**p!!!!!
Dive there!
Scrappy goal that sums up a scrappy game.
Dub hair ruffling incident. Diving
That's really poor from Philly McMahon, he hasn't even got a knock on the head at all. At least McCann's head was touched!! ;)
Mayo just seem to stand back when O'Se gets the ball and do everything himself. How many times has he been bottled up today without any support.
Game over now!!
Mayo had their chances & didn't take them.
They can have no complaints if they lose.
Mcmahon with total simulation there
Quote from: BluestackBoy on August 30, 2015, 04:54:26 PM
Mayo had their chances & didn't take them.
They can have no complaints if they lose.
Dublin should be commended for practicing not staying on their feet.
Mayo can have plenty complaints. Dublin should be down to 14 , if not 13
Game over! Vintage Mayo they only have themselves to blame how many chances do they think they can miss and still win. Along with that their old Achilles heel of poor defending has cone back to bite them.
I really want them to win one and people say they deserve one but in this game you earn all you get and they just aren't able to!
Do Horan & Connelly go to a corporate box during the game?
They're woefully inefficient at making changes
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Quote from: tyroneman on August 30, 2015, 04:55:09 PM
Quote from: BluestackBoy on August 30, 2015, 04:54:26 PM
Mayo had their chances & didn't take them.
They can have no complaints if they lose.
Dublin should be commended for practicing not staying on their feet.
Mayo can have plenty complaints. Dublin should be down to 14 , if not 13
Nonsense, Mayo had chances & wasted them.
Flynn very poor again today.
5 more points in 5 minutes.
Quote from: BluestackBoy on August 30, 2015, 04:58:05 PM
Quote from: tyroneman on August 30, 2015, 04:55:09 PM
Quote from: BluestackBoy on August 30, 2015, 04:54:26 PM
Mayo had their chances & didn't take them.
They can have no complaints if they lose.
Dublin should be commended for practicing not staying on their feet.
Mayo can have plenty complaints. Dublin should be down to 14 , if not 13
Nonsense, Mayo had chances & wasted them.
Would have had plenty more chances with McMahon gone and less scored the other end with Connolly gone.
Another awful performance from McQuillan.
Hold on.....sure Tyrone are the only cynical team playing football.....
Interesting.
Never a penalty
Quote from: J70 on August 30, 2015, 05:05:15 PM
Never a penalty
Yeah think he was on his way down after he spun round.
Yes!!!!! Come on Mayo.
Quote from: J70 on August 30, 2015, 05:05:15 PM
Never a penalty
It was a penalty certainly as definite as the Dublin oner
Im presuming that McQuillan won;t play the extra 1 minute for this delay
McQuillan has had an interesting afternoon.
Jesus who'd be a referee!
Dublin will be screwed if this goes to replay between injuries and suspensions.
Phew. That was exhausting.
Not one for McQuillan's scrapbook.
Dubs threw it away.
Fair play to mayo
Kerry will be delighted.
Meh. At least we have the hurling next week to look foward too.
Replay in Limerick I presume.
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on August 30, 2015, 05:11:20 PM
Dublin will be screwed if this goes to replay between injuries and suspensions.
And the media witch hunt that will undoubtedly follow their ridiculous display of cynicism won't help them either! ;)
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 30, 2015, 05:11:41 PM
Phew. That was exhausting.
+1.
Jasis but it was some last 10 mins.
Dublin really stopped playing after going 7 up. Must have thought they had enough of a lead to sit on.
Embarassing for Mayo that their top forward can't score from play.
Quote from: tyroneman on August 30, 2015, 05:02:35 PM
Hold on.....sure Tyrone are the only cynical team playing football.....
Would you ever f**k away off with your constant bleating shite.
Just because other teams are cynical doesn't make your cynicism any less disgraceful.
Denis Bastick coming in changed the game.
Denis Bastick going off changing it back again.
Dublin's scoring potential is extraordinary. But they truly are a horrible team in all other aspects of the game. I'm a fan of tactical football but systematic fouling isn't tactics, it's abhorrent. Meant i was cheering Mayo on like a Down team at the end.
I did pick a draw ;) Poor game exciting finish I think the replay will be better if McQuillan doesn't ref it.
Great contest well done to both teams and sets of fans how are the nerves
Most of the 5mins of injury time was spent dealing with other injuries, cards and free kicks, yet McQuillan only added on less than 1min.
I hope McQuillan doesn't get the replay. He isn't authoritive enough for inter county refereeing. He can't handle players or a game.
Great character from Mayo, Andy Moran is a warrior.
Quote from: Estimator on August 30, 2015, 05:15:40 PM
Most of the 5mins of injury time was spent dealing with other injuries, cards and free kicks, yet McQuillan only added on less than 1min.
I would think this one of the rare occasions when both teams wanted him to blow up as quick as possible.
Quote from: SouthDublinBro on August 30, 2015, 05:14:01 PM
Embarassing for Mayo that their top forward can't score from play.
Embarrassing for Dublin that they are so dirty that the opposition get so many frees. But some people have no shame.
I called it but didn't go to the bookies.
Great comeback
Ref a lot of big calls wrong again
Quote from: screenexile on August 30, 2015, 04:55:38 PM
Game over! Vintage Mayo they only have themselves to blame how many chances do they think they can miss and still win. Along with that their old Achilles heel of poor defending has cone back to bite them.
I really want them to win one and people say they deserve one but in this game you earn all you get and they just aren't able to!
I take it back! Fair play to Mayo who were far from their best but just brute honesty, hard work and belief got them back in it! I hope they don't the next day but they cant afford to be so wasteful again!
Who's Dublins sub referee? Some amount of diving, fouling, off the ball fighting, mouthing into players faces etc from the Dubs. Dirtiest, most cynical team in Ireland!
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Quote from: Estimator on August 30, 2015, 05:15:40 PM
Most of the 5mins of injury time was spent dealing with other injuries, cards and free kicks, yet McQuillan only added on less than 1min.
I would think this one of the rare occasions when both teams wanted him to blow up as quick as possible.
Yes. Every player would be terrified of making a mistake.
Be some amount of Galway and Mayo people up in Dublin next Saturday night.
Got to be said that was a very poor game. Well done to Mayo should have beaten them. Dubs put on the most cynical display i have ever seen and thats coming from a Tyrone man. Had any other ref had this game other that McQuillan they could have 3-4 additional black cards as well as another couple of reds. We await the Media lead witch hunt for the boys in blue.
Quote from: SkillfulBill on August 30, 2015, 05:20:41 PM
Got to be said that was a very poor game. Well done to Mayo should have beaten them. Dubs put on the most cynical display i have ever seen and thats coming from a Tyrone man. Had any other ref had this game other that McQuillan they could have 3-4 additional black cards as well as another couple of reds. We await the Media lead witch hunt for the boys in blue.
Where exactly is Tyrone's embarrassment threshold?
Dubs a disgrace to the GAA. McQuillan had a nightmare
Connolly better not get off this time, you can't go around punching lads while they're on the ground. I thought he was told that in court.
Absolutely amazing second half.
Dubs were scared out of their shite there. Clueless.
Quote from: Syferus on August 30, 2015, 05:24:26 PM
Absolutely amazing second half.
Last 10 mins yes. Don't think what came before it was all that hectic.
Quote from: Syferus on August 30, 2015, 05:24:26 PM
Absolutely amazing second half.
Last 10 mins was good the rest was shite
Quote from: Teo Lurley on August 30, 2015, 05:23:41 PM
Connolly better not get off this time, you can't go around punching lads while they're on the ground. I thought he was told that in court.
McGowans will be a dangerous place to be tonight!
Dublin very cynical - Cian O'Connor lucky not to see red as yellow card offence ignored early on - think commentator referred to it. Also Mayo score 1.08 from placed balls (frees) - would point to poor defence of Dublin. Don't blame the Mayo forwards - blame the Dublin defence.
Joe McQ poor - 4 ppl tackle - player over carries, 2 ppl tackle - player wins free as double tackled. Happens all the time and hard to know which way a free is going to go.
Enjoyable last fifteen but poor enough up to then
Great contest. No credit being given to Mayo in this forum. Whingers and seekers of the negative out in force as usual. I wonder why they watch sport.
Surely Dublin's intestinal fortitude/mental frailties have to be called into question after Donegal last year and today. How they lost that is crazy... And believe me they lost it!!
Quote from: SouthDublinBro on August 30, 2015, 05:14:01 PM
Embarassing for Mayo that their top forward can't score from play.
Yeah, they won't show their faces outside the door for a month !
Replay confirmed for next Sat 3.30pm
McHale park
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Absolutely amazing second half.
Last 10 mins yes. Don't think what came before it was all that hectic.
Even before that it was way more open than the first half, Mayo kicked away points before that final ten whereas they seemed to have no structure going forward in the first half. The final ten was set up by Dublin getting into that lead in the first place. Way better than the first half that seemed like it was played at half-speed.
Dublin playing for the draw at the very end showed how much they were rattled. I think Mayo can improve on their performance more than Dublin can so we could be in for the classic we were promised next weekend.
Meant i was cheering Mayo on like a Down team at the end.
+1
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Quote from: SkillfulBill on August 30, 2015, 05:20:41 PM
Got to be said that was a very poor game. Well done to Mayo should have beaten them. Dubs put on the most cynical display i have ever seen and thats coming from a Tyrone man. Had any other ref had this game other that McQuillan they could have 3-4 additional black cards as well as another couple of reds. We await the Media lead witch hunt for the boys in blue.
Where exactly is Tyrone's embarrassment threshold?
Still awaiting to see the media explosion over the next week and questions how refs might be influenced by what was on show today. Dublin went beyond anything i have ever seen from a Tyrone side or any other for that matter.
Quote from: Teo Lurley on August 30, 2015, 05:23:41 PM
Connolly better not get off this time, you can't go around punching lads while they're on the ground. I thought he was told that in court.
If it was a punch why would he get off. Never showed the replay on the Sunday Game and I didn't see the incident live so can't comment. What exactly happened??
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Quote from: SkillfulBill on August 30, 2015, 05:20:41 PM
Got to be said that was a very poor game. Well done to Mayo should have beaten them. Dubs put on the most cynical display i have ever seen and thats coming from a Tyrone man. Had any other ref had this game other that McQuillan they could have 3-4 additional black cards as well as another couple of reds. We await the Media lead witch hunt for the boys in blue.
Where exactly is Tyrone's embarrassment threshold?
Still awaiting to see the media explosion over the next week and questions how refs might be influenced by what was on show today. Dublin went beyond anything i have ever seen from a Tyrone side or any other for that matter.
You must be drunk.
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Quote from: Teo Lurley on August 30, 2015, 05:23:41 PM
Connolly better not get off this time, you can't go around punching lads while they're on the ground. I thought he was told that in court.
If it was a punch why would he get off. Never showed the replay on the Sunday Game and I didn't see the incident live so can't comment. What exactly happened??
He attacked Keegan on the ground. He got off before on a technicality.
Will Connolly get off on the Kevin Keane defence?
Thought Dublin were the better team for most of it but they may never talk about "core principles" again. Headbutt, punch, feigning injury and above all systemic fouling... it just didn't end. About time we started calling all this what it is: cheating.
Hats off to mayo. Sheer honest endeavour and never give up attitude got them back in it. Smug Jim didn't look too smug after that game.
joe mc quillan must be applauded how he dealt with the dublin cynical play imo
Quote from: Hardy on August 30, 2015, 05:27:43 PM
Great contest. No credit being given to Mayo in this forum. Whingers and seekers of the negative out in force as usual. I wonder why they watch sport.
It was gripping and exciting in the end but it was a mostly poor niggly game. Stating that doesn't make you a whinger.
Quote from: screenexile on August 30, 2015, 05:27:50 PM
Surely Dublin's intestinal fortitude/mental frailties have to be called into question after Donegal last year and today. How they lost that is crazy... And believe me they lost it!!
Mayo were creating the chances though and just didn't have the belief. They finally started to believe in themselves.
Cillian o'connor , while not in the same league as cooper, is a real leader. Andy moran too. Doesn't necessarily have the legs but will take responsibility and stand up and be counted. These are the kind of guys you need.
Would love to see mayo win this. Won't be as clear cut as people think. Shows you though - you rattle cluxton you rattle dublin.
Not only do Dublin cheat off the field (millions of euro etc), they cheat on it aswell and I don't only mean by having their own personal ref.
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Quote from: Teo Lurley on August 30, 2015, 05:23:41 PM
Connolly better not get off this time, you can't go around punching lads while they're on the ground. I thought he was told that in court.
If it was a punch why would he get off. Never showed the replay on the Sunday Game and I didn't see the incident live so can't comment. What exactly happened??
He attacked Keegan on the ground. He got off before on a technicality.
Seen them rolling on the ground but I missed the punch but if you seen him punching Keegan I find it difficult to see how he can get off.
How come Connolly gets red & Keegan doesn't?
Maybe there was an extra punch while in the ground maybe - must watch Sunday Game tonight to confirm
Of the two teams you would have to say mayo have most room for improvement next week.
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Quote from: Teo Lurley on August 30, 2015, 05:23:41 PM
Connolly better not get off this time, you can't go around punching lads while they're on the ground. I thought he was told that in court.
If it was a punch why would he get off. Never showed the replay on the Sunday Game and I didn't see the incident live so can't comment. What exactly happened??
He attacked Keegan on the ground. He got off before on a technicality.
Seen them rolling on the ground but I missed the punch but if you seen him punching Keegan I find it difficult to see how he can get off.
More than 1 punch I believe. He got off before, I said I hope he doesn't get off again.
Quote from: skeog on August 30, 2015, 05:35:37 PM
joe mc quillan must be applauded how he dealt with the dublin cynical play imo
Agreed, it was as close to an impossible game to referee as you will find but, the Cooper decision apart, I think he did a fine job.
Well, well, can't wait to hear holier than thou, we play the game in the "right way" jim Gavin after that. 1 red, 2 blacks, numerous yellows & McMahon diving down holding his face when not even touched. Would you say the Dubs were a tad cynical?
Mayo, god help us.
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joe mc quillan must be applauded how he dealt with the dublin cynical play imo
Agreed, it was as close to an impossible game to referee as you will find but, the Cooper decision apart, I think he did a fine job.
Referreeing a game like would be extremely tough. McQullian did ok. It's the inconsistencies that grate players and supporters though especially in the tackle.
Is the time keeping ever gonna be taken away from the refs? Far to much time wasted with no football being played
That's probably the most cynical display of football (Dublin) that I've seen in a long time. Dragging, dirty hits, sledging, goading, feigning injury etc..., especially the nasty wee extra hit, slap, knee when a player was on the ground after the tackle.
An incredible last 10 mins. Really looking forward to the replay. Mayo by 5
I'll keep it concise:
- Very exciting game but quality wasn't great
- Dublin's cynicism was off the charts
- Dublin threw it away from a winning position
- Mayo kicked it away from a chances perspective
- Mayo showed great character to grind the draw out
- Dublin simply collapsed in the last 10 minutes
- Both management teams were unimpressive
- Cluxton had a Niall Morgan style second half collapse
- Paul Flynn is an egomaniac who has started to believe his own hype
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- Paul Flynn is an egomaniac who has started to believe his own hype
Thought he tried way too many Hollywood balls today.
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- Paul Flynn is an egomaniac who has started to believe his own hype
Thought he tried way too many Hollywood balls today.
Tried an outside of the foot shot in the second half from a good distance out when he had loads of time and space to drive into and a clear point or more was on, Dublin were cruising at this stage. Obviously he's been a very good player in the past four years but I feel that some of the stuff said about him has been pure hyperbole.
Was Paddy Andrews carrying a knock going into the game? Surprised he was taken off,looked dangerous everytime he got the ball. Just a case of him being the least experienced player ::)?
Quote from: laoislad on August 30, 2015, 05:12:57 PM
Meh. At least we have the hurling next week to look foward too.
Zzzzzzzzzzz. Stick to the soccer.
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Quote from: laoislad on August 30, 2015, 05:12:57 PM
Meh. At least we have the hurling next week to look foward too.
Zzzzzzzzzzz. Stick to the soccer.
Aren't you the fella who said Kildare fans should have been happy with their 27 point defeat to Kerry? :D I don't think you're in any position to talk.
Quote from: Hardy on August 30, 2015, 05:27:43 PM
Great contest. No credit being given to Mayo in this forum. Whingers and seekers of the negative out in force as usual. I wonder why they watch sport.
Hardy in Wonderland
Keegan started the handling, he wrestled Connolly to the ground. He should have been the one sent off
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Meh. At least we have the hurling next week to look foward too.
Zzzzzzzzzzz. Stick to the soccer.
Aren't you the fella who said Kildare fans should have been happy with their 27 point defeat to Kerry? :D I don't think you're in any position to talk.
No surprise you don't understand the point I was making. You haven't made a single logically post yet - Dublin's millions blah blah blah, repeat on all posts regardless of discussion.
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Quote from: laoislad on August 30, 2015, 05:12:57 PM
Meh. At least we have the hurling next week to look foward too.
Zzzzzzzzzzz. Stick to the soccer.
Aren't you the fella who said Kildare fans should have been happy with their 27 point defeat to Kerry? :D I don't think you're in any position to talk.
No surprise you don't understand the point I was making. You haven't made a single logically post yet - Dublin's millions blah blah blah, repeat on all posts regardless of discussion.
I don't think anyone understands how you think Kildare fans should be happy with a 27 point defeat. :D
The millions Dublin gets is the central issue in the GAA! It's leading to other teams being forced to spend millions to try to match them and it's leaving other counties miles behind.
It's not something that you'd appreciate though, maybe you should go watch some soccer. :D
Ill be in no hurry to watch the replay. Brutal stuff from both teams, both guilty of diving, sledging and systematic fouling. Kerry will beat the winners of this with some ease
Quote from: Carmen Stateside on August 30, 2015, 06:36:34 PM
Kerry will beat the winners of this with some ease
I can't fathom statements like this at all. Did you actually watch last week's game or are you just using a stupid quote generator?
Kerry only just about saw off the weakest of the quarter finalists, and as usual they had to call on an unhealthy dose of cynicism to get there too.
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Quote from: Carmen Stateside on August 30, 2015, 06:36:34 PM
Kerry will beat the winners of this with some ease
I can't fathom statements like this at all. Did you actually watch last week's game or are you just using a stupid quote generator?
Kerry only just about saw off the weakest of the quarter finalists, and as usual they had to call on an unhealthy dose of cynicism to get there too.
They won that game by 27 points!
What happened to O'Carroll anyway? Off after 3 minutes pumping blood and never reappeared. RTE never seemed to show a replay of what caused it. Unless I missed it.
weakest of the semi finalists.
(Now please don't try to tell me otherwise)
There is a lot of "i never saw it but o connor punched him" on twitter.
At a guess he means semi finalists...
Why is this turning into something about tyrone?
Great last ten. Now all to play for. To win at this level requires a degree of cynicism and they all have it. Some need it less than others - dublin have one of the best sets of forwards to ever play the game and need it less than others however clearly see the need to do what everyone else does. Doesn't make them worse just on a par. Kerry also are very cynical.
The ref couldn't do right today. Thought he did ok. As i say all teams have a degree of cynicism about them. When two meet nigh on impossible to ref.
Didn't see the keegan connolly thing. Keegan seems to have his number though think he knows how to wind him up rightly.
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on August 30, 2015, 06:53:00 PM
What happened to O'Carroll anyway? Off after 3 minutes pumping blood and never reappeared. RTE never seemed to show a replay of what caused it. Unless I missed it.
Probably a wayward headbutt attempt by Philly McMahon.
Quote from: bridgegael on August 30, 2015, 06:56:17 PM
There is a lot of "i never saw it but o connor punched him" on twitter.
Would these be the same geniuses who booed O'Shea because McMahon tried to headbutt him and bravely fell down holding his face?
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There is a lot of "i never saw it but o connor punched him" on twitter.
Would these be the same geniuses who booed O'Shea because McMahon tried to headbutt him and bravely fell down holding his face?
Or when Lee Keegan got Connolly sent off? Or when Aidan O Shea gave ROC 11 stitches.
Great comeback by Mayo when all seemed lost however when they watch that game back they will know their wastefulness from play is why they didn't win that game today. Andy Moran off the bench on 45mins played nearly scored as much from play as the rest of the Mayo team combined.
O Connor unlikely to score 1-9 from placed balls in the replay so to win the next day Mayo will need Doherty, D O'Connor, K McLoughlin, A O'Shea to step up and get the scores.
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Meh. At least we have the hurling next week to look foward too.
Zzzzzzzzzzz. Stick to the soccer.
Aren't you the fella who said Kildare fans should have been happy with their 27 point defeat to Kerry? :D I don't think you're in any position to talk.
No surprise you don't understand the point I was making. You haven't made a single logically post yet - Dublin's millions blah blah blah, repeat on all posts regardless of discussion.
I don't think anyone understands how you think Kildare fans should be happy with a 27 point defeat. :D
The millions Dublin gets is the central issue in the GAA! It's leading to other teams being forced to spend millions to try to match them and it's leaving other counties miles behind.
It's not something that you'd appreciate though, maybe you should go watch some soccer. :D
It's only the central point in your mind. Oh and misquoting me doesn't help your cause.
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Quote from: Carmen Stateside on August 30, 2015, 06:36:34 PM
Kerry will beat the winners of this with some ease
I can't fathom statements like this at all. Did you actually watch last week's game or are you just using a stupid quote generator?
Kerry only just about saw off the weakest of the quarter finalists, and as usual they had to call on an unhealthy dose of cynicism to get there too.
Tyrone were the weakest of the quarter finalists? And you are getting high and mighty about stupid quotes??
Tyrone were the weakest by some distance, I didn't think that was up for debate.
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There is a lot of "i never saw it but o connor punched him" on twitter.
Would these be the same geniuses who booed O'Shea because McMahon tried to headbutt him and bravely fell down holding his face?
Or when Lee Keegan got Connolly sent off? Or when Aidan O Shea gave ROC 11 stitches.
Connelly was completely possessed today. He was scrapping everyone and anyone including one smash on his own player. If I was Gavin I would have had him off at halftime. How he lasted as long as he did is a testament to the GAA's inability to referee their games.
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There is a lot of "i never saw it but o connor punched him" on twitter.
Would these be the same geniuses who booed O'Shea because McMahon tried to headbutt him and bravely fell down holding his face?
Or when Lee Keegan got Connolly sent off? Or when Aidan O Shea gave ROC 11 stitches.
Connelly was completely possessed today. He was scrapping everyone and anyone including one smash on his own player. If I was Gavin I would have had him off at halftime. How he lasted as long as he did is a testament to the GAA's inability to referee their games.
Lets hope Aidan O Se didn't try to gouge ROC. Because that's the rumour.
Only a pup does something like that.
That's what I'd call a manly game, worthy of being the final and hard to credit that whoever gets through still have to play Kerry to win Sam. Dublin just about kept their finger in the dyke when faced with the Mayo juggernaut charge in the last few minutes.
i thought McQuillan put in an excellent effort to reff that game.
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Quote from: Carmen Stateside on August 30, 2015, 06:36:34 PM
Kerry will beat the winners of this with some ease
I can't fathom statements like this at all. Did you actually watch last week's game or are you just using a stupid quote generator?
Kerry only just about saw off the weakest of the quarter finalists, and as usual they had to call on an unhealthy dose of cynicism to get there too.
Tyrone were the weakest of the quarter finalists? And you are getting high and mighty about stupid quotes??
Tyrone were the weakest by some distance, I didn't think that was up for debate.
Are you mad?
Sorry just noticed the typo, definitely the weakest semi final team
Standard of football very poor compared to last week game. I was hoping Mayo would win but how can any team expect to win an all-Ireland if they have scored 1 pt from play in 60mins. Mayo have not solved the problem of the past 5 years and find 2 scoring inside forwards which they so badly need to complete a fairly good team. i cannot see them beat Kerry if they overcome Dublin, they simply haven't the scoring power and seemed a one trick pony today with high aimless balls into the full forward line.
To the game, Don't think the Aidan O`Shea incident was a penalty, the Paul Flynn one was. Ciaran kilkenny was very good for Dublin and did not get involved in any of the carry on the rest of the dubs were at, The Dub`s scored alot of points from play, O`Connor for Mayo scored mostly frees. McCauley simply not fit and i would took him off after 20mins P Flynn very poor today.
Dublin done enough to win then folded when Mayo pushed up on the Keeper which they should done from day 1, Dublin lack options in midfield. Dublin cant seem to tackle, who coached their defending?
Penalty was touch and go abit like Tyrone first one last week, though McMahon knee brought Boyle to ground on contact. A Moran made a mess of the goal chance through greed then messed up a easy point when 5 down from a free.
P McMahon - G, mouthing, off the ball pulling, lying down trying to get a man sent off (which i thought should been a black card as he cut of O`Shea going for the ball) you sure you no relations in Tyrone? hell forgot about the attempted headbutt on O`se only he was to small, wonder while this be revisited?
Connolly - Oh Boy, class footballer, very poor temper, attempted follow through hit to a Mayo man on the ground prior to McMahon attempted wrestling move (headbutt) The incident with keegan was hard to make out, Keegan deliberately checked his run, then Connolly grabbed him and wrestled him to the ground, He got a straight red so i can only presume he hit Keegan or attempted to.
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There is a lot of "i never saw it but o connor punched him" on twitter.
Would these be the same geniuses who booed O'Shea because McMahon tried to headbutt him and bravely fell down holding his face?
Or when Lee Keegan got Connolly sent off? Or when Aidan O Shea gave ROC 11 stitches.
Connelly was completely possessed today. He was scrapping everyone and anyone including one smash on his own player. If I was Gavin I would have had him off at halftime. How he lasted as long as he did is a testament to the GAA's inability to referee their games.
Lets hope Aidan O Se didn't try to gouge ROC. Because that's the rumour.
Only a pup does something like that.
Cop yourself on. The is no way O'Sé gouged anyone.
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Quote from: bridgegael on August 30, 2015, 06:56:17 PM
There is a lot of "i never saw it but o connor punched him" on twitter.
Would these be the same geniuses who booed O'Shea because McMahon tried to headbutt him and bravely fell down holding his face?
Or when Lee Keegan got Connolly sent off? Or when Aidan O Shea gave ROC 11 stitches.
Can I take it there will be no more sanctimonious lectures from Dubs about cynical Ulster teams or no more wittering about "how the game should be played"
No more, ever again.
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Meh. At least we have the hurling next week to look foward too.
Zzzzzzzzzzz. Stick to the soccer.
Aren't you the fella who said Kildare fans should have been happy with their 27 point defeat to Kerry? :D I don't think you're in any position to talk.
No surprise you don't understand the point I was making. You haven't made a single logically post yet - Dublin's millions blah blah blah, repeat on all posts regardless of discussion.
I don't think anyone understands how you think Kildare fans should be happy with a 27 point defeat. :D
The millions Dublin gets is the central issue in the GAA! It's leading to other teams being forced to spend millions to try to match them and it's leaving other counties miles behind.
It's not something that you'd appreciate though, maybe you should go watch some soccer. :D
It's only the central point in your mind. Oh and misquoting me doesn't help your cause.
You don't have a clue. Another one of yours was to give huge funding like Dublin get to Meath and Kildare!!!!! :D You're a joke.
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There is a lot of "i never saw it but o connor punched him" on twitter.
Would these be the same geniuses who booed O'Shea because McMahon tried to headbutt him and bravely fell down holding his face?
Or when Lee Keegan got Connolly sent off? Or when Aidan O Shea gave ROC 11 stitches.
Lol.
Not beyond the realms of possibility re Keegan and Connolly. I remember seeing a soccer clip were a player grabbed the others guys arm and punched himself with it.. Worked as well
Not a notion what happened with OCarroll, it wasn't shown again. Nasty cut by the looks of it.
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There is a lot of "i never saw it but o connor punched him" on twitter.
Would these be the same geniuses who booed O'Shea because McMahon tried to headbutt him and bravely fell down holding his face?
Or when Lee Keegan got Connolly sent off? Or when Aidan O Shea gave ROC 11 stitches.
Connelly was completely possessed today. He was scrapping everyone and anyone including one smash on his own player. If I was Gavin I would have had him off at halftime. How he lasted as long as he did is a testament to the GAA's inability to referee their games.
Lets hope Aidan O Se didn't try to gouge ROC. Because that's the rumour.
Only a pup does something like that.
Cop yourself on. The is no way O'Sé gouged anyone.
Let's hope not because Rory didn't give himself 11 stitches.
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Quote from: bridgegael on August 30, 2015, 06:56:17 PM
There is a lot of "i never saw it but o connor punched him" on twitter.
Would these be the same geniuses who booed O'Shea because McMahon tried to headbutt him and bravely fell down holding his face?
Or when Lee Keegan got Connolly sent off? Or when Aidan O Shea gave ROC 11 stitches.
Connelly was completely possessed today. He was scrapping everyone and anyone including one smash on his own player. If I was Gavin I would have had him off at halftime. How he lasted as long as he did is a testament to the GAA's inability to referee their games.
Lets hope Aidan O Se didn't try to gouge ROC. Because that's the rumour.
Only a pup does something like that.
Dublin have all the advantages they could ask for to win an All Ireland but they still have to stoop so low to try to win. The filthiest team in Ireland by a long way.
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Quote from: bridgegael on August 30, 2015, 06:56:17 PM
There is a lot of "i never saw it but o connor punched him" on twitter.
Would these be the same geniuses who booed O'Shea because McMahon tried to headbutt him and bravely fell down holding his face?
Or when Lee Keegan got Connolly sent off? Or when Aidan O Shea gave ROC 11 stitches.
Connelly was completely possessed today. He was scrapping everyone and anyone including one smash on his own player. If I was Gavin I would have had him off at halftime. How he lasted as long as he did is a testament to the GAA's inability to referee their games.
Lets hope Aidan O Se didn't try to gouge ROC. Because that's the rumour.
Only a pup does something like that.
Cop yourself on. The is no way O'Sé gouged anyone.
Let's hope not because Rory didn't give himself 11 stitches.
So because a man gets a cut, it must have been gouging by the one player you would love to see ruled out of the replay?
Because of a 'rumour'?
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Quote from: bridgegael on August 30, 2015, 06:56:17 PM
There is a lot of "i never saw it but o connor punched him" on twitter.
Would these be the same geniuses who booed O'Shea because McMahon tried to headbutt him and bravely fell down holding his face?
Or when Lee Keegan got Connolly sent off? Or when Aidan O Shea gave ROC 11 stitches.
Connelly was completely possessed today. He was scrapping everyone and anyone including one smash on his own player. If I was Gavin I would have had him off at halftime. How he lasted as long as he did is a testament to the GAA's inability to referee their games.
Lets hope Aidan O Se didn't try to gouge ROC. Because that's the rumour.
Only a pup does something like that.
LOL That'd be the rumour you just started no doubt.
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on August 30, 2015, 07:07:00 PM
Standard of football very poor compared to last week game. I was hoping Mayo would win but how can any team expect to win an all-Ireland if they have scored 1 pt from play in 60mins. Mayo have not solved the problem of the past 5 years and find 2 scoring inside forwards which they so badly need to complete a fairly good team. i cannot see them beat Kerry if they overcome Dublin, they simply haven't the scoring power and seemed a one trick pony today with high aimless balls into the full forward line.
To the game, Don't think the Aidan O`Shea incident was a penalty, the Paul Flynn one was. Ciaran kilkenny was very good for Dublin and did not get involved in any of the carry on the rest of the dubs were at, The Dub`s scored alot of points from play, O`Connor for Mayo scored mostly frees. McCauley simply not fit and i would took him off after 20mins P Flynn very poor today.
Dublin done enough to win then folded when Mayo pushed up on the Keeper which they should done from day 1, Dublin lack options in midfield. Dublin cant seem to tackle, who coached their defending?
Penalty was touch and go abit like Tyrone first one last week, though McMahon knee brought Boyle to ground on contact. A Moran made a mess of the goal chance through greed then messed up a easy point when 5 down from a free.
P McMahon - G, mouthing, off the ball pulling, lying down trying to get a man sent off (which i thought should been a black card as he cut of O`Shea going for the ball) you sure you no relations in Tyrone? hell forgot about the attempted headbutt on O`se only he was to small, wonder while this be revisited?
Connolly - Oh Boy, class footballer, very poor temper, attempted follow through hit to a Mayo man on the ground prior to McMahon attempted wrestling move (headbutt) The incident with keegan was hard to make out, Keegan deliberately checked his run, then Connolly grabbed him and wrestled him to the ground, He got a straight red so i can only presume he hit Keegan or attempted to.
It was outside the box... Never a penalty
Indiana you are not speaking too much about the behaviour of your own players. The carry on from McMahon was a disgrace and i hope his attempted headbutt is revisited and O`Shea didn't go down as you have said. Connolly i think would be seeing suspension anyway with him coming down with a fist on prone mayo player earlier. keegan checked his run, a black card offence, If Connolly didn't grab Keegan and wrestle him to the ground like a clown it could been the Mayo man been put off. And just like Donegal and Tyrone earlier in the year, you got plenty of players doing plenty of mouthing particular to O`Shea
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Kerry will beat the winners of this with some ease
I can't fathom statements like this at all. Did you actually watch last week's game or are you just using a stupid quote generator?
Kerry only just about saw off the weakest of the quarter finalists, and as usual they had to call on an unhealthy dose of cynicism to get there too.
Tyrone were the weakest of the quarter finalists? And you are getting high and mighty about stupid quotes??
Tyrone were the weakest by some distance, I didn't think that was up for debate.
Are you mad?
Sorry just noticed the typo, definitely the weakest semi final team
You probably are a bit mad and a bit blind.
Just to get this clear, you're saying Tyrone are better tha Dublin, Kerry and Mayo or just some of them? If not all then which ones? I presume not Kerry as they beat them last week and I presume not Dublin as they've won national leagues and All Ireland's in the past 3 years so it must be Mayo, right? But that'd be the Mayo who comprehensively beat the Donegal team that beat Tyrone, drew with Kerry and Dublin in the last two all Ireland semi finals and have reached two all Ireland's in the past few years. Please explain how I'm mad?
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There is a lot of "i never saw it but o connor punched him" on twitter.
Would these be the same geniuses who booed O'Shea because McMahon tried to headbutt him and bravely fell down holding his face?
Or when Lee Keegan got Connolly sent off? Or when Aidan O Shea gave ROC 11 stitches.
Connelly was completely possessed today. He was scrapping everyone and anyone including one smash on his own player. If I was Gavin I would have had him off at halftime. How he lasted as long as he did is a testament to the GAA's inability to referee their games.
Lets hope Aidan O Se didn't try to gouge ROC. Because that's the rumour.
Only a pup does something like that.
What would a man gouge to leave a man needing 10 stitches?
Truly awful finish by us . Deserved to lose and ultimately lucky not to do so.
Season over for us bar the shouting................ holed below the waterline.
Mayo are a powerful outfit, powerful outfit. Momentum with them.
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Meh. At least we have the hurling next week to look foward too.
Zzzzzzzzzzz. Stick to the soccer.
Aren't you the fella who said Kildare fans should have been happy with their 27 point defeat to Kerry? :D I don't think you're in any position to talk.
No surprise you don't understand the point I was making. You haven't made a single logically post yet - Dublin's millions blah blah blah, repeat on all posts regardless of discussion.
I don't think anyone understands how you think Kildare fans should be happy with a 27 point defeat. :D
The millions Dublin gets is the central issue in the GAA! It's leading to other teams being forced to spend millions to try to match them and it's leaving other counties miles behind.
It's not something that you'd appreciate though, maybe you should go watch some soccer. :D
It's only the central point in your mind. Oh and misquoting me doesn't help your cause.
You don't have a clue. Another one of yours was to give huge funding like Dublin get to Meath and Kildare!!!!! :D You're a joke.
Daft post alert, daft post alert. Hard to discuss things with a child-like mind. Run along now as nobody takes you seriously around here.
Commentary said immediately after the incident it "was as a result of a getting to know you tussle with Cillian o Connor".
In Indianas swift attempt to deflect he's got the wrong man.
Hypocritical considering the amount of lectures on how football should be played.
Connolly was agitating for a scrap all day long.
Dublins true colours return today.
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on August 30, 2015, 07:17:25 PM
Indiana you are not speaking too much about the behaviour of your own players. The carry on from McMahon was a disgrace and i hope his attempted headbutt is revisited and O`Shea didn't go down as you have said. Connolly i think would be seeing suspension anyway with him coming down with a fist on prone mayo player earlier. keegan checked his run, a black card offence, If Connolly didn't grab Keegan and wrestle him to the ground like a clown it could been the Mayo man been put off. And just like Donegal and Tyrone earlier in the year, you got plenty of players doing plenty of mouthing particular to O`Shea
I've spoken at length about Mc Mahon so don't start trying to deflect the argument. I wouldn't have him anywhere near the Dublin setup. It will strengthen our team if he gets banned. So please, please highlight the incident as much as possible. Mayo fans seem to think we'll miss him! We won't. Why Gavin has Mc Mahon on the team is something only Jim knows.
Keegan had no interest in playing football today. He spent his entire time trying to get Connolly sent off. And he suceeded. Went way down in my estimation as a player today.
ROC got 11 stitches- he didn't do it himself - let's hope it was accidental. But it's not what i'm hearing.
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Kerry will beat the winners of this with some ease
I can't fathom statements like this at all. Did you actually watch last week's game or are you just using a stupid quote generator?
Kerry only just about saw off the weakest of the quarter finalists, and as usual they had to call on an unhealthy dose of cynicism to get there too.
Tyrone were the weakest of the quarter finalists? And you are getting high and mighty about stupid quotes??
Tyrone were the weakest by some distance, I didn't think that was up for debate.
Are you mad?
Sorry just noticed the typo, definitely the weakest semi final team
You probably are a bit mad and a bit blind.
Just to get this clear, you're saying Tyrone are better tha Dublin, Kerry and Mayo or just some of them? If not all then which ones? I presume not Kerry as they beat them last week and I presume not Dublin as they've won national leagues and All Ireland's in the past 3 years so it must be Mayo, right? But that'd be the Mayo who comprehensively beat the Donegal team that beat Tyrone, drew with Kerry and Dublin in the last two all Ireland semi finals and have reached two all Ireland's in the past few years. Please explain how I'm mad?
Inability to follow a passage of conversation without making a dick of yourself, perhaps?
He's right and it's you that's making the dick of yourself HS.
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Quote from: Carmen Stateside on August 30, 2015, 06:36:34 PM
Kerry will beat the winners of this with some ease
I can't fathom statements like this at all. Did you actually watch last week's game or are you just using a stupid quote generator?
Kerry only just about saw off the weakest of the quarter finalists, and as usual they had to call on an unhealthy dose of cynicism to get there too.
Tyrone were the weakest of the quarter finalists? And you are getting high and mighty about stupid quotes??
Tyrone were the weakest by some distance, I didn't think that was up for debate.
Are you mad?
Sorry just noticed the typo, definitely the weakest semi final team
You probably are a bit mad and a bit blind.
Just to get this clear, you're saying Tyrone are better tha Dublin, Kerry and Mayo or just some of them? If not all then which ones? I presume not Kerry as they beat them last week and I presume not Dublin as they've won national leagues and All Ireland's in the past 3 years so it must be Mayo, right? But that'd be the Mayo who comprehensively beat the Donegal team that beat Tyrone, drew with Kerry and Dublin in the last two all Ireland semi finals and have reached two all Ireland's in the past few years. Please explain how I'm mad?
Inability to follow a passage of conversation without making a dick of yourself, perhaps?
By all means help me out. I said Tyrone were the weakest of the semi finalists and you said I'm blind and mad. Is there something I'm missing from our complex discussion?
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Quote from: Wildweasel74 on August 30, 2015, 07:17:25 PM
Indiana you are not speaking too much about the behaviour of your own players. The carry on from McMahon was a disgrace and i hope his attempted headbutt is revisited and O`Shea didn't go down as you have said. Connolly i think would be seeing suspension anyway with him coming down with a fist on prone mayo player earlier. keegan checked his run, a black card offence, If Connolly didn't grab Keegan and wrestle him to the ground like a clown it could been the Mayo man been put off. And just like Donegal and Tyrone earlier in the year, you got plenty of players doing plenty of mouthing particular to O`Shea
I've spoken at length about Mc Mahon so don't start trying to deflect the argument. I wouldn't have him anywhere near the Dublin setup. It will strengthen our team if he gets banned. So please, please highlight the incident as much as possible. Mayo fans seem to think we'll miss him! We won't. Why Gavin has Mc Mahon on the team is something only Jim knows.
Keegan had no interest in playing football today. He spent his entire time trying to get Connolly sent off. And he suceeded. Went way down in my estimation as a player today.
ROC got 11 stitches- he didn't do it himself - let's hope it was accidental. But it's not what i'm hearing.
there was a horrendous tackle from Johnny Cooper in the first half where he followed through with the boot on someones leg. should have been a straight red.
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Meh. At least we have the hurling next week to look foward too.
Zzzzzzzzzzz. Stick to the soccer.
Aren't you the fella who said Kildare fans should have been happy with their 27 point defeat to Kerry? :D I don't think you're in any position to talk.
No surprise you don't understand the point I was making. You haven't made a single logically post yet - Dublin's millions blah blah blah, repeat on all posts regardless of discussion.
I don't think anyone understands how you think Kildare fans should be happy with a 27 point defeat. :D
The millions Dublin gets is the central issue in the GAA! It's leading to other teams being forced to spend millions to try to match them and it's leaving other counties miles behind.
It's not something that you'd appreciate though, maybe you should go watch some soccer. :D
It's only the central point in your mind. Oh and misquoting me doesn't help your cause.
You don't have a clue. Another one of yours was to give huge funding like Dublin get to Meath and Kildare!!!!! :D You're a joke.
Daft post alert, daft post alert. Hard to discuss things with a child-like mind. Run along now as nobody takes you seriously around here.
:D I'm just re-posting what you've posted. You're a laughing stock.
How about the point that looked wide in the replay? From Brogan IIRC.
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Quote from: Carmen Stateside on August 30, 2015, 06:36:34 PM
Kerry will beat the winners of this with some ease
I can't fathom statements like this at all. Did you actually watch last week's game or are you just using a stupid quote generator?
Kerry only just about saw off the weakest of the quarter finalists, and as usual they had to call on an unhealthy dose of cynicism to get there too.
Tyrone were the weakest of the quarter finalists? And you are getting high and mighty about stupid quotes??
Tyrone were the weakest by some distance, I didn't think that was up for debate.
Are you mad?
Sorry just noticed the typo, definitely the weakest semi final team
You probably are a bit mad and a bit blind.
Just to get this clear, you're saying Tyrone are better tha Dublin, Kerry and Mayo or just some of them? If not all then which ones? I presume not Kerry as they beat them last week and I presume not Dublin as they've won national leagues and All Ireland's in the past 3 years so it must be Mayo, right? But that'd be the Mayo who comprehensively beat the Donegal team that beat Tyrone, drew with Kerry and Dublin in the last two all Ireland semi finals and have reached two all Ireland's in the past few years. Please explain how I'm mad?
Inability to follow a passage of conversation without making a dick of yourself, perhaps?
By all means help me out. I said Tyrone were the weakest of the semi finalists and you said I'm blind and mad. Is there something I'm missing from our complex discussion?
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Corkman disses Kerry's accomplishment is simple enough.
Looked dubious from the replay , but no reaction from.any mayo player would suggest it was a point
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Looked dubious from the replay , but no reaction from.any mayo player would suggest it was a point
Yip. Must have just sneaked in. Just surprised that there's been no mention of it,given that every other thing is up for debate ;D ;D
If Tierney McCann got 8 week's for diving I can't wait to see what they give Cillian O'Connor for his elbow to Rory O'Carroll's head. Sickening to see. Dubs left that behind them & fancy Mayo for the replay. Kerry big winners today. Lee Keegan is a class footballer but today all he did was pull,drag and wind up Connolly until he snapped and got sent off. Depressing to watch a class footballer act like a complete w**ker
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Meh. At least we have the hurling next week to look foward too.
Zzzzzzzzzzz. Stick to the soccer.
Aren't you the fella who said Kildare fans should have been happy with their 27 point defeat to Kerry? :D I don't think you're in any position to talk.
No surprise you don't understand the point I was making. You haven't made a single logically post yet - Dublin's millions blah blah blah, repeat on all posts regardless of discussion.
I don't think anyone understands how you think Kildare fans should be happy with a 27 point defeat. :D
The millions Dublin gets is the central issue in the GAA! It's leading to other teams being forced to spend millions to try to match them and it's leaving other counties miles behind.
It's not something that you'd appreciate though, maybe you should go watch some soccer. :D
It's only the central point in your mind. Oh and misquoting me doesn't help your cause.
You don't have a clue. Another one of yours was to give huge funding like Dublin get to Meath and Kildare!!!!! :D You're a joke.
Daft post alert, daft post alert. Hard to discuss things with a child-like mind. Run along now as nobody takes you seriously around here.
:D I'm just re-posting what you've posted. You're a laughing stock.
No you're not. Actually Re-post it and we'll see what I said. I won't go over it again as it's clearly logic wasted on your tiny mind. However, carry on posting nonsense as you're doing no harm to anyone
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Quote from: Carmen Stateside on August 30, 2015, 06:36:34 PM
Kerry will beat the winners of this with some ease
I can't fathom statements like this at all. Did you actually watch last week's game or are you just using a stupid quote generator?
Kerry only just about saw off the weakest of the quarter finalists, and as usual they had to call on an unhealthy dose of cynicism to get there too.
Tyrone were the weakest of the quarter finalists? And you are getting high and mighty about stupid quotes??
Tyrone were the weakest by some distance, I didn't think that was up for debate.
Are you mad?
Sorry just noticed the typo, definitely the weakest semi final team
You probably are a bit mad and a bit blind.
Just to get this clear, you're saying Tyrone are better tha Dublin, Kerry and Mayo or just some of them? If not all then which ones? I presume not Kerry as they beat them last week and I presume not Dublin as they've won national leagues and All Ireland's in the past 3 years so it must be Mayo, right? But that'd be the Mayo who comprehensively beat the Donegal team that beat Tyrone, drew with Kerry and Dublin in the last two all Ireland semi finals and have reached two all Ireland's in the past few years. Please explain how I'm mad?
Inability to follow a passage of conversation without making a dick of yourself, perhaps?
By all means help me out. I said Tyrone were the weakest of the semi finalists and you said I'm blind and mad. Is there something I'm missing from our complex discussion?
Oh, they were the worst of the semi finalists but being unable to realise such a mistake after two people highlighted it makes me wonder how stupid you are.
Posingt from my phone means I missed that but thanks for the insults, you drinking heavily today or are you normally an asshole?
Quote from: dublin7 on August 30, 2015, 07:38:28 PM
If Tierney McCann got 8 week's for diving I can't wait to see what they give Cillian O'Connor for his elbow to Rory O'Carroll's head. Sickening to see. Dubs left that behind them & fancy Mayo for the replay. Kerry big winners today. Lee Keegan is a class footballer but today all he did was pull,drag and wind up Connolly until he snapped and got sent off. Depressing to watch a class footballer act like a complete w**ker
https://vine.co/v/eIgqgvBOHWZ
Have a look at that.
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Quote from: bridgegael on August 30, 2015, 07:35:14 PM
Looked dubious from the replay , but no reaction from.any mayo player would suggest it was a point
Yip. Must have just sneaked in. Just surprised that there's been no mention of it,given that every other thing is up for debate ;D ;D
I was surprised Hawkeye wasn't used in that incident.
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Meh. At least we have the hurling next week to look foward too.
Zzzzzzzzzzz. Stick to the soccer.
Aren't you the fella who said Kildare fans should have been happy with their 27 point defeat to Kerry? :D I don't think you're in any position to talk.
No surprise you don't understand the point I was making. You haven't made a single logically post yet - Dublin's millions blah blah blah, repeat on all posts regardless of discussion.
I don't think anyone understands how you think Kildare fans should be happy with a 27 point defeat. :D
The millions Dublin gets is the central issue in the GAA! It's leading to other teams being forced to spend millions to try to match them and it's leaving other counties miles behind.
It's not something that you'd appreciate though, maybe you should go watch some soccer. :D
It's only the central point in your mind. Oh and misquoting me doesn't help your cause.
You don't have a clue. Another one of yours was to give huge funding like Dublin get to Meath and Kildare!!!!! :D You're a joke.
Daft post alert, daft post alert. Hard to discuss things with a child-like mind. Run along now as nobody takes you seriously around here.
:D I'm just re-posting what you've posted. You're a laughing stock.
No you're not. Actually Re-post it and we'll see what I said. I won't go over it again as it's clearly logic wasted on your tiny mind. However, carry on posting nonsense as you're doing no harm to anyone
:D You did say those things. Maybe you realise how stupid they are now but you made them.
Quote from: Zulu on August 30, 2015, 07:41:44 PM
Posingt from my phone means I missed that but thanks for the insults, you drinking heavily today or are you normally an asshole?
You love making a show of yourself don't ya? :D
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Looked dubious from the replay , but no reaction from.any mayo player would suggest it was a point
Yip. Must have just sneaked in. Just surprised that there's been no mention of it,given that every other thing is up for debate ;D ;D
I was surprised Hawkeye wasn't used in that incident.
Repost them so.
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Kerry will beat the winners of this with some ease
I can't fathom statements like this at all. Did you actually watch last week's game or are you just using a stupid quote generator?
Kerry only just about saw off the weakest of the quarter finalists, and as usual they had to call on an unhealthy dose of cynicism to get there too.
Tyrone were the weakest of the quarter finalists? And you are getting high and mighty about stupid quotes??
Tyrone were the weakest by some distance, I didn't think that was up for debate.
Are you mad?
Sorry just noticed the typo, definitely the weakest semi final team
You probably are a bit mad and a bit blind.
Just to get this clear, you're saying Tyrone are better tha Dublin, Kerry and Mayo or just some of them? If not all then which ones? I presume not Kerry as they beat them last week and I presume not Dublin as they've won national leagues and All Ireland's in the past 3 years so it must be Mayo, right? But that'd be the Mayo who comprehensively beat the Donegal team that beat Tyrone, drew with Kerry and Dublin in the last two all Ireland semi finals and have reached two all Ireland's in the past few years. Please explain how I'm mad?
Inability to follow a passage of conversation without making a dick of yourself, perhaps?
By all means help me out. I said Tyrone were the weakest of the semi finalists and you said I'm blind and mad. Is there something I'm missing from our complex discussion?
Oh, they were the worst of the semi finalists but being unable to realise such a mistake after two people highlighted it makes me wonder how stupid you are.
Posingt from my phone means I missed that but thanks for the insults, you drinking heavily today or are you normally an asshole?
Funny, I thought you were full.
Because I didn't see a Typo and then acknowledged when I noticed? Asshole it is so.
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Looked dubious from the replay , but no reaction from.any mayo player would suggest it was a point
Yip. Must have just sneaked in. Just surprised that there's been no mention of it,given that every other thing is up for debate ;D ;D
I was surprised Hawkeye wasn't used in that incident.
Repost them so.
Repost what? The shot from Brogan? Did someone post it in the first place?
:D Red face for Zulu!!!!!
Quote from: dublin7 on August 30, 2015, 07:38:28 PM
If Tierney McCann got 8 week's for diving I can't wait to see what they give Cillian O'Connor for his elbow to Rory O'Carroll's head. Sickening to see. Dubs left that behind them & fancy Mayo for the replay. Kerry big winners today. Lee Keegan is a class footballer but today all he did was pull,drag and wind up Connolly until he snapped and got sent off. Depressing to watch a class footballer act like a complete w**ker
You must have seen the incident involving OCarroll as it wasn't shown on tv .. A fair gash by the looks of it. Maybe it will be shown on TSG tonight.
Re Keegan, if you're gonna be fair with the name calling, you'd pick a half a dozen Dublin players too who acted the maggots all game. I said to my da 10 mins in that Dublin were too tightly wound up. The tackling wasn't anywhere near fair but hard and within the rules., it was reckless and prob cost them the game
The Anger Management course that Connolly had to attend obviously didn't do him much good. His tail was pulled today and he turned around and snapped as expected. He was lucky to still be on the field at that stage. Has absolutely everything required to be one of the greats but lacks the mental fortitude.
Dara O'Se said there was a bit of a scamp in him... Well he got 3 letters of the word correct anyway.
Cooper's stamp was one of the most thuggish acts I've seen on a football pitch in years, was it even mentioned in the coverage?
Quote from: dublin7 on August 30, 2015, 07:38:28 PM
If Tierney McCann got 8 week's for diving I can't wait to see what they give Cillian O'Connor for his elbow to Rory O'Carroll's head. Sickening to see. Dubs left that behind them & fancy Mayo for the replay. Kerry big winners today. Lee Keegan is a class footballer but today all he did was pull,drag and wind up Connolly until he snapped and got sent off. Depressing to watch a class footballer act like a complete w**ker
Connolly started at FF on Cafferkey doing exactly what you claim Keegan was doing to Connolly. Presumably that was all fine? Cafferkey never reacts, much to his credit. Connolly then ran 30 yards to hit Boyle after Flynn had beaten him to a ball. Connolly then went out the field only to meet someone willing to return the sh*ite with interest. Keegan can be got at no doubt and it is a weakness is his game, but Connolly in that mood is a massive liability to any team.
As for the O'Carroll cut. It is miraculous that his head is still on considering it was both gouging by O'Shea and an elbow from O'Connor. Amazing what people 'see' at games.
As an aside it was amazing the way the whole crowd clapped in the 13th minute. Terrific idea and a fitting tribute.
Sorry Benny, bloody phone!!
Why wasn't Cian O'Sullivan black carded in first half for a blatant jersey pull on a Mayo man in first half? McQuilan was hard on O,Shea first half, he did him for over-carrying once because I think he missed the big man bounce the ball before he got away and put the ball over the bar.
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on August 30, 2015, 07:51:05 PM
Cooper's stamp was one of the most thuggish acts I've seen on a football pitch in years, was it even mentioned in the coverage?
The RTE commentators referred to hit as a 'heavy knock' which showed Cooper was up for the game. This is the reason these kind of acts will continue to flourish.
Stop Teo, quickly posting from a phone and making a mistake is nothing to be embarrassed about. Posting nothing but nonsense is but you seem quite comfortable with that so more power to you.
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Quote from: dublin7 on August 30, 2015, 07:38:28 PM
If Tierney McCann got 8 week's for diving I can't wait to see what they give Cillian O'Connor for his elbow to Rory O'Carroll's head. Sickening to see. Dubs left that behind them & fancy Mayo for the replay. Kerry big winners today. Lee Keegan is a class footballer but today all he did was pull,drag and wind up Connolly until he snapped and got sent off. Depressing to watch a class footballer act like a complete w**ker
Connolly started at FF on Cafferkey doing exactly what you claim Keegan was doing to Connolly. Presumably that was all fine? Cafferkey never reacts, much to his credit. Connolly then ran 30 yards to hit Boyle after Flynn had beaten him to a ball. Connolly then went out the field only to meet someone willing to return the sh*ite with interest. Keegan can be got at no doubt and it is a weakness is his game, but Connolly in that mood is a massive liability to any team.
As for the O'Carroll cut. It is miraculous that his head is still on considering it was both gouging by O'Shea and an elbow from O'Connor. Amazing what people 'see' at games.
As an aside it was amazing the way the whole crowd clapped in the 13th minute. Terrific idea and a fitting tribute.
Had to get 10 stitches and be helped off the pitch. If you think that's funny then frankly I don't know what you're problem is
Zulu having a bit of a mare tonight ;D
Quote from: ApresMatch on August 30, 2015, 07:54:58 PM
Why wasn't Cian O'Sullivan black carded in first half for a blatant jersey pull on a Mayo man in first half? McQuilan was hard on O,Shea first half, he did him for over-carrying once because I think he missed the big man bounce the ball before he got away and put the ball over the bar.
A jersey pull ain't a black card!
Quote from: Westside on August 30, 2015, 07:50:42 PM
The Anger Management course that Connolly had to attend obviously didn't do him much good. His tail was pulled today and he turned around and snapped as expected. He was lucky to still be on the field at that stage. Has absolutely everything required to be one of the greats but lacks the mental fortitude.
Dara O'Se said there was a bit of a scamp in him... Well he got 3 letters of the word correct anyway.
His place in the pantheon of the greats is assured. He'd be happy to help out and teach you some skills of the game if you like.
Unfortunately Gaelic Football has been reduced to allowing lesser talents like Lee Keegan to wind him up to the extent that he gets sent off.let's face it Keegan has been at this carry on all season- as we saw against Galway.
You needn't worry Keegan will get his comeuppance too. From my experience what goes around also comes around
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Quote from: Westside on August 30, 2015, 07:50:42 PM
The Anger Management course that Connolly had to attend obviously didn't do him much good. His tail was pulled today and he turned around and snapped as expected. He was lucky to still be on the field at that stage. Has absolutely everything required to be one of the greats but lacks the mental fortitude.
Dara O'Se said there was a bit of a scamp in him... Well he got 3 letters of the word correct anyway.
His place in the pantheon of the greats is assured. He'd be happy to help out and teach you some skills of the game if you like.
Unfortunately Gaelic Football has been reduced to allowing lesser talents like Lee Keegan to wind him up to the extent that he gets sent off.let's face it Keegan has been at this carry on all season- as we saw against Galway.
You needn't worry Keegan will get his comeuppance too. From my experience what goes around also comes around
As it stands, history tells us that Keegan (from a much less successful team AI wise) has 2 all stars to Connollys 1.
Now both are absolutely brilliant footballers so lay off with muddying the waters with half truths and rumours and take your oil!
The single most trampish incident in that match was Cooper planting his studs into a Mayoman in the first half. Unfortunately he got a yellow card for it otherwise I'd be fairly certain he would be receiving a long ban.
Indiana lee keegan is a fantastic player. Maybe he was at stuff but not many angels out there.
The Jersey pull is not a black card offence, though had the Mayo player fell to the ground ala Tryone i think he got a black card, either way he should got a card of some type, zero attempt to play the ball
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Quote from: Westside on August 30, 2015, 07:50:42 PM
The Anger Management course that Connolly had to attend obviously didn't do him much good. His tail was pulled today and he turned around and snapped as expected. He was lucky to still be on the field at that stage. Has absolutely everything required to be one of the greats but lacks the mental fortitude.
Dara O'Se said there was a bit of a scamp in him... Well he got 3 letters of the word correct anyway.
His place in the pantheon of the greats is assured. He'd be happy to help out and teach you some skills of the game if you like.
Unfortunately Gaelic Football has been reduced to allowing lesser talents like Lee Keegan to wind him up to the extent that he gets sent off.let's face it Keegan has been at this carry on all season- as we saw against Galway.
You needn't worry Keegan will get his comeuppance too. From my experience what goes around also comes around
Lee Keegan a lesser talent?? I thought your complete ignorance only extended to Tyrone.
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If Tierney McCann got 8 week's for diving I can't wait to see what they give Cillian O'Connor for his elbow to Rory O'Carroll's head. Sickening to see. Dubs left that behind them & fancy Mayo for the replay. Kerry big winners today. Lee Keegan is a class footballer but today all he did was pull,drag and wind up Connolly until he snapped and got sent off. Depressing to watch a class footballer act like a complete w**ker
Connolly started at FF on Cafferkey doing exactly what you claim Keegan was doing to Connolly. Presumably that was all fine? Cafferkey never reacts, much to his credit. Connolly then ran 30 yards to hit Boyle after Flynn had beaten him to a ball. Connolly then went out the field only to meet someone willing to return the sh*ite with interest. Keegan can be got at no doubt and it is a weakness is his game, but Connolly in that mood is a massive liability to any team.
As for the O'Carroll cut. It is miraculous that his head is still on considering it was both gouging by O'Shea and an elbow from O'Connor. Amazing what people 'see' at games.
As an aside it was amazing the way the whole crowd clapped in the 13th minute. Terrific idea and a fitting tribute.
Had to get 10 stitches and be helped off the pitch. If you think that's funny then frankly I don't know what you're problem is
I think you have had a bang on the head yourself. Has it occurred to you that players get cuts all the time and it doesn't have to be caused deliberately by an opponent. You seem to think that the cut is proof of something, but none of you have a clue what. So you blame it on an O'Connor elbow, Indiana blames it on an O'Shea gouge. At least one of you is talking out of your arse. I suspect both of you are.
Looks like Keegan took Daragh O Ses advice when he said earlier in the year. "There is something to be said for pulling his (Connollys) tail to see if he will hiss back at you." He is far too easy to wind up.
How about the Dublin fans booing the Mayo lad getting interviewed at the end. Strange behaviour.
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Zulu having a bit of a mare tonight ;D
Not just tonight, he's a joke all the time! :D
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How about the Dublin fans booing the Mayo lad getting interviewed at the end. Strange behaviour.
When they saw him they thought he was taking a free.
Just in case people missed it:
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What about McQuillan missing McMenamin double bounce for his second half point.
Also I'm fairly sure Dublin had a point given that was blatantly wide. Add the missed Cooper red, the 2 incorrect penalty decisions and how anyone can say that McQuillan had a good game is beyond me. Yes it was a difficult game to referee but his performance was inconsistent and riddled with mistakes.
All this booing crap is in poor taste. last week then the day, thought i was listening to Liverpool supporters booing thier team lol
When you see how close McQuillan was to Cooper's assault it is even more baffling as to how it was only a yellow.
The O'Carroll incident no one has seemed to have seen but the only thing that can be said is that COC is noted to be a dirty player in general.
For the Keegan and Connolly incident both should have been off but Keegan's face was fairly marked up after it so the red was definitely justified.
Philly McMahon will have to get a ban, that is as clear as day.
Meanwhile Kerry are sitting back laughing watching Dublin and Mayo beat each other up with injuries and suspensions imminent.
I am wondering will we go 15 v 15 the next day and attack Cluxton's kick-outs? Forcing him to pass to Cooper was a strange tactic and one that didn't seem to achieve much.
I thought Drake did well and was unlucky to be subbed while Durkan was terrific. So much for our weak bench.
I though the ref was afraid to blow for anything that might upset The Hill in the first half but then, as is the way in Gaa, tried to balance that in the second half, particularly with the penalty.
As an aside, a lot of Mayo fans near me were very hard on Hennelly. Personally I thought he was the better keeper there today. He made a good block on Fenton and but for a lucky break there wouldn't have been a 2nd Dublin goal. He hit one or two loose kicks but Cluxton hit more than that.
As for BB's point that twitter is claiming was wide, I had an excellent view of it and thought it was over.
The Mayo penalty was clearly the correct decision as Philly McMahon was all over Boyle's back. The Dublin penalty was outside the box but in fairness to McQuillan that was hard to see in real time.
Quote from: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on August 30, 2015, 08:38:48 PM
The Mayo penalty was clearly the correct decision as Philly McMahon was all over Boyle's back. The Dublin penalty was outside the box but in fairness to McQuillan that was hard to see in real time.
Agreed. I thought at first it was a definite penalty but while it was a definite foul it was outside the box
Quote from: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on August 30, 2015, 08:38:48 PM
The Mayo penalty was clearly the correct decision as Philly McMahon was all over Boyle's back. The Dublin penalty was outside the box but in fairness to McQuillan that was hard to see in real time.
I was amazed he didn't see Cluxton's kick out that didn't make the 13 metre line. It was way short of the line.
4.29 For another player on the team taking the kick-out after a wide to play the ball before it has travelled 13m.
PENALTY FOR THE ABOVE FOULS -
(i) Cancel kick-out.
(ii) Throw in the ball on defenders' 20m line in front of scoring space.
The rule says 'travelled 13m', it doesn't say anything about the 13m line.
Quote from: Jinxy on August 30, 2015, 08:44:24 PM
The rule says 'travelled 13m', it doesn't say anything about the 13m line.
Good point!
Cillian O Connor will be hit by a retrospective ban for the ROC incident. It's on camera by all accounts.
My apologies to Aidan O Se
What accounts?
Quote from: INDIANA on August 30, 2015, 08:45:48 PM
Cillian O Connor will be hit by a retrospective ban for the ROC incident. It's on camera by all accounts.
My apologies to Aidan O Se
If it was we will see it in TSG tonight I would assume
Quote from: INDIANA on August 30, 2015, 08:45:48 PM
Cillian O Connor will be hit by a retrospective ban for the ROC incident. It's on camera by all accounts.
My apologies to Aidan O Se
So you have seen this video, judged it was definitely intentional, found him guilty and sentenced him?
Ball can travel 13 mtrs in any direction, does not have to go outside the 13mtr line so ref was right, worst semi-final since tyrone-kerry 2003, hopefully both teams will make up for it next saturday.
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Quote from: Jinxy on August 30, 2015, 08:44:24 PM
The rule says 'travelled 13m', it doesn't say anything about the 13m line.
Good point!
Ball must travel 13m and the players must be outside the 13m line when the ball is kicked.
If they start the process of retrospectively banning today's players based on video evidence, then there's going to be a lot of changes in store for the replay. Cooper and McMahon in particular must be hoping they don't open that door.
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Quote from: INDIANA on August 30, 2015, 08:45:48 PM
Cillian O Connor will be hit by a retrospective ban for the ROC incident. It's on camera by all accounts.
My apologies to Aidan O Se
So you have seen this video, judged it was definitely intentional, found him guilty and sentenced him?
Its a clear cut elbow to the head off the ball. He's damned by his own actions I'm afraid. Typically I've found when you go about your business trying to get players sent off it usually comes back to bite you in the ass.
PS - please highlight the Philly Mc Mahon incident as much as possible.
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The Anger Management course that Connolly had to attend obviously didn't do him much good. His tail was pulled today and he turned around and snapped as expected. He was lucky to still be on the field at that stage. Has absolutely everything required to be one of the greats but lacks the mental fortitude.
Dara O'Se said there was a bit of a scamp in him... Well he got 3 letters of the word correct anyway.
His place in the pantheon of the greats is assured. He'd be happy to help out and teach you some skills of the game if you like.
Unfortunately Gaelic Football has been reduced to allowing lesser talents like Lee Keegan to wind him up to the extent that he gets sent off.let's face it Keegan has been at this carry on all season- as we saw against Galway.
You needn't worry Keegan will get his comeuppance too. From my experience what goes around also comes around
I'm afraid Connolly will be second tier. A man with all the attributes physically and all the skill but not enough upstairs to be a true great.
Let's not pretend that getting wound up is a new phenomenon.. Take a look at how McManus handled it earlier in the year. A true class act.
What goes around comes around.. I guess Connolly is due to take an unprovoked box in the face when he's out for a pint at anytime now.
Quote from: thewobbler on August 30, 2015, 08:50:31 PM
If they start the process of retrospectively banning today's players based on video evidence, then there's going to be a lot of changes in store for the replay. Cooper and McMahon in particular must be hoping they don't open that door.
Can you please highlight the Mc Mahon incident as much as possible and Cooper too. Their replacements are much better so you will help strengthen the team.
Thanks- it's much appreciated lads
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Quote from: INDIANA on August 30, 2015, 08:45:48 PM
Cillian O Connor will be hit by a retrospective ban for the ROC incident. It's on camera by all accounts.
My apologies to Aidan O Se
So you have seen this video, judged it was definitely intentional, found him guilty and sentenced him?
Its a clear cut elbow to the head off the ball. He's damned by his own actions I'm afraid. Typically I've found when you go about your business trying to get players sent off it usually comes back to bite you in the ass.
PS - please highlight the Philly Mc Mahon incident as much as possible.
Have you seen it or not? Or is it your friend that thought it was an O'Shea gouge that told you?
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Quote from: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on August 30, 2015, 08:38:48 PM
The Mayo penalty was clearly the correct decision as Philly McMahon was all over Boyle's back. The Dublin penalty was outside the box but in fairness to McQuillan that was hard to see in real time.
I was amazed he didn't see Cluxton's kick out that didn't make the 13 metre line. It was way short of the line.
4.29 For another player on the team taking the kick-out after a wide to play the ball before it has travelled 13m.
PENALTY FOR THE ABOVE FOULS -
(i) Cancel kick-out.
(ii) Throw in the ball on defenders' 20m line in front of scoring space.
You're wrong there muppet. We actually discussed this a while ago here. The ball just has to travel 13m in any direction, not necessarily outside the 21. The players have you be outside it, when the ball is kicked, but can run in and collect it.
A poor game up until the last 8 minutes, the O'Connors saved Mayos bacon, Cillian with his place kicking and Diarmuid just never stopped working all day, he has become a tremendous player. Kilkenny had a great game for Dublin. Refereeing was inconsistent, the players on both sides hadn't a clue what to expect. With 10 minutes to go I would have taken the draw gladly, having said that we could have sneaked a win.
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Quote from: Kuwabatake Sanjuro on August 30, 2015, 08:38:48 PM
The Mayo penalty was clearly the correct decision as Philly McMahon was all over Boyle's back. The Dublin penalty was outside the box but in fairness to McQuillan that was hard to see in real time.
I was amazed he didn't see Cluxton's kick out that didn't make the 13 metre line. It was way short of the line.
4.29 For another player on the team taking the kick-out after a wide to play the ball before it has travelled 13m.
PENALTY FOR THE ABOVE FOULS -
(i) Cancel kick-out.
(ii) Throw in the ball on defenders' 20m line in front of scoring space.
You're wrong there muppet. We actually discussed this a while ago here. The ball just has to travel 13m in any direction, not necessarily outside the 21. The players have you be outside it, when the ball is kicked, but can run in and collect it.
Yip. I accepted that earlier.
Great draw for mayo and they got away with it today. The mayo penalty was an awful decision but it balanced out some awful decisions against mayo . I am convinced that mayo will win replay and I just love the fact that the replay will now lessen the attention on the hurling final. Please god mayo will win and then go on to beat Kerry .
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The Anger Management course that Connolly had to attend obviously didn't do him much good. His tail was pulled today and he turned around and snapped as expected. He was lucky to still be on the field at that stage. Has absolutely everything required to be one of the greats but lacks the mental fortitude.
Dara O'Se said there was a bit of a scamp in him... Well he got 3 letters of the word correct anyway.
His place in the pantheon of the greats is assured. He'd be happy to help out and teach you some skills of the game if you like.
Unfortunately Gaelic Football has been reduced to allowing lesser talents like Lee Keegan to wind him up to the extent that he gets sent off.let's face it Keegan has been at this carry on all season- as we saw against Galway.
You needn't worry Keegan will get his comeuppance too. From my experience what goes around also comes around
I'm afraid Connolly will be second tier. A man with all the attributes physically and all the skill but not enough upstairs to be a true great.
Let's not pretend that getting wound up is a new phenomenon.. Take a look at how McManus handled it earlier in the year. A true class act.
What goes around comes around.. I guess Connolly is due to take an unprovoked box in the face when he's out for a pint at anytime now.
Just have to disagree. Mc Manus isn't as good a player as Dermot in my view. Mc Manus is a big fish in a small pond in Monaghan. He's never had to deal with the pressures and expectations of playing with the Man Utd of Gaelic Football.
In my view his left foot his lot weaker then Dermot's and he's heavily reliant on his right foot. That's not the qualities of great players. So you're entitled to your delcusions
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The Anger Management course that Connolly had to attend obviously didn't do him much good. His tail was pulled today and he turned around and snapped as expected. He was lucky to still be on the field at that stage. Has absolutely everything required to be one of the greats but lacks the mental fortitude.
Dara O'Se said there was a bit of a scamp in him... Well he got 3 letters of the word correct anyway.
His place in the pantheon of the greats is assured. He'd be happy to help out and teach you some skills of the game if you like.
Unfortunately Gaelic Football has been reduced to allowing lesser talents like Lee Keegan to wind him up to the extent that he gets sent off.let's face it Keegan has been at this carry on all season- as we saw against Galway.
You needn't worry Keegan will get his comeuppance too. From my experience what goes around also comes around
I'm afraid Connolly will be second tier. A man with all the attributes physically and all the skill but not enough upstairs to be a true great.
Let's not pretend that getting wound up is a new phenomenon.. Take a look at how McManus handled it earlier in the year. A true class act.
What goes around comes around.. I guess Connolly is due to take an unprovoked box in the face when he's out for a pint at anytime now.
Just have to disagree. Mc Manus isn't as good a player as Dermot in my view. Mc Manus is a big fish in a small pond in Monaghan. He's never had to deal with the pressures and expectations of playing with the Man Utd of Gaelic Football.
In my view his left foot his lot weaker then Dermot's and he's heavily reliant on his right foot. That's not the qualities of great players. So you're entitled to your delcusions
For the 3rd time, have you seen this video?
Quote from: muppet on August 30, 2015, 09:17:19 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on August 30, 2015, 09:15:32 PM
Quote from: Westside on August 30, 2015, 08:51:30 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on August 30, 2015, 08:01:03 PM
Quote from: Westside on August 30, 2015, 07:50:42 PM
The Anger Management course that Connolly had to attend obviously didn't do him much good. His tail was pulled today and he turned around and snapped as expected. He was lucky to still be on the field at that stage. Has absolutely everything required to be one of the greats but lacks the mental fortitude.
Dara O'Se said there was a bit of a scamp in him... Well he got 3 letters of the word correct anyway.
His place in the pantheon of the greats is assured. He'd be happy to help out and teach you some skills of the game if you like.
Unfortunately Gaelic Football has been reduced to allowing lesser talents like Lee Keegan to wind him up to the extent that he gets sent off.let's face it Keegan has been at this carry on all season- as we saw against Galway.
You needn't worry Keegan will get his comeuppance too. From my experience what goes around also comes around
I'm afraid Connolly will be second tier. A man with all the attributes physically and all the skill but not enough upstairs to be a true great.
Let's not pretend that getting wound up is a new phenomenon.. Take a look at how McManus handled it earlier in the year. A true class act.
What goes around comes around.. I guess Connolly is due to take an unprovoked box in the face when he's out for a pint at anytime now.
Just have to disagree. Mc Manus isn't as good a player as Dermot in my view. Mc Manus is a big fish in a small pond in Monaghan. He's never had to deal with the pressures and expectations of playing with the Man Utd of Gaelic Football.
In my view his left foot his lot weaker then Dermot's and he's heavily reliant on his right foot. That's not the qualities of great players. So you're entitled to your delcusions
For the 3rd time, have you seen this video?
Tune into the Sunday Game ;)
McManus is just a poor man's Michael Murphy.
Quote from: INDIANA on August 30, 2015, 09:15:32 PM
Quote from: Westside on August 30, 2015, 08:51:30 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on August 30, 2015, 08:01:03 PM
Quote from: Westside on August 30, 2015, 07:50:42 PM
The Anger Management course that Connolly had to attend obviously didn't do him much good. His tail was pulled today and he turned around and snapped as expected. He was lucky to still be on the field at that stage. Has absolutely everything required to be one of the greats but lacks the mental fortitude.
Dara O'Se said there was a bit of a scamp in him... Well he got 3 letters of the word correct anyway.
His place in the pantheon of the greats is assured. He'd be happy to help out and teach you some skills of the game if you like.
Unfortunately Gaelic Football has been reduced to allowing lesser talents like Lee Keegan to wind him up to the extent that he gets sent off.let's face it Keegan has been at this carry on all season- as we saw against Galway.
You needn't worry Keegan will get his comeuppance too. From my experience what goes around also comes around
I'm afraid Connolly will be second tier. A man with all the attributes physically and all the skill but not enough upstairs to be a true great.
Let's not pretend that getting wound up is a new phenomenon.. Take a look at how McManus handled it earlier in the year. A true class act.
What goes around comes around.. I guess Connolly is due to take an unprovoked box in the face when he's out for a pint at anytime now.
Just have to disagree. Mc Manus isn't as good a player as Dermot in my view. Mc Manus is a big fish in a small pond in Monaghan. He's never had to deal with the pressures and expectations of playing with the Man Utd of Gaelic Football.
In my view his left foot his lot weaker then Dermot's and he's heavily reliant on his right foot. That's not the qualities of great players. So you're entitled to your delcusions
That would be a no then.
Quote from: StephenC on August 30, 2015, 08:25:43 PM
How about the Dublin fans booing the Mayo lad getting interviewed at the end. Strange behaviour.
Because he got Connolly sent off, the lad is a good footballer but never stops talking to the ref and lines men at every hands turn, he's an oul wan
Quote from: StephenC on August 30, 2015, 08:25:43 PM
How about the Dublin fans booing the Mayo lad getting interviewed at the end. Strange behaviour.
Nothing strange about it. They're scumbags.
So mayos home leg on Saturday, Ya?
Quote from: INDIANA on August 30, 2015, 08:52:08 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on August 30, 2015, 08:50:31 PM
If they start the process of retrospectively banning today's players based on video evidence, then there's going to be a lot of changes in store for the replay. Cooper and McMahon in particular must be hoping they don't open that door.
Can you please highlight the Mc Mahon incident as much as possible and Cooper too. Their replacements are much better so you will help strengthen the team.
Thanks- it's much appreciated lads
The Sunday game will highlight it, if you can wait that till then.
Quote from: BennyCake on August 30, 2015, 09:24:35 PM
Quote from: StephenC on August 30, 2015, 08:25:43 PM
How about the Dublin fans booing the Mayo lad getting interviewed at the end. Strange behaviour.
Nothing strange about it. They're scumbags.
It might amaze you to know that all fans in CP boo the freetaker now. Dublin got very few kickable frees today and were booed by Mayo fans when being kicked.
Same last week in the Tyrone / Kerry game.
I actually think it adds to the theatre of the games tbh.
Quote from: Canalman on August 30, 2015, 09:30:41 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on August 30, 2015, 09:24:35 PM
Quote from: StephenC on August 30, 2015, 08:25:43 PM
How about the Dublin fans booing the Mayo lad getting interviewed at the end. Strange behaviour.
Nothing strange about it. They're scumbags.
It might amaze you to know that all fans in CP boo the freetaker now. Dublin got very few kickable frees today and were booed by Mayo fans when being kicked.
Same last week in the Tyrone / Kerry game.
I actually think it adds to the theatre of the games tbh.
I thought it was just cos Cluxton
I can see this being the year that Mayo put all that 1951 curse nonsense to bed.
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Quote from: StephenC on August 30, 2015, 08:25:43 PM
How about the Dublin fans booing the Mayo lad getting interviewed at the end. Strange behaviour.
Because he got Connolly sent off, the lad is a good footballer but never stops talking to the ref and lines men at every hands turn, he's an oul wan
Connolly or Keegan? Connolly was talking to McQuillan for most incidents during the game.
Quote from: BennyCake on August 30, 2015, 09:24:35 PM
Quote from: StephenC on August 30, 2015, 08:25:43 PM
How about the Dublin fans booing the Mayo lad getting interviewed at the end. Strange behaviour.
Nothing strange about it. They're scumbags.
All coming out now isn't it ?
Quote from: Canalman on August 30, 2015, 09:30:41 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on August 30, 2015, 09:24:35 PM
Quote from: StephenC on August 30, 2015, 08:25:43 PM
How about the Dublin fans booing the Mayo lad getting interviewed at the end. Strange behaviour.
Nothing strange about it. They're scumbags.
It might amaze you to know that all fans in CP boo the freetaker now. Dublin got very few kickable frees today and were booed by Mayo fans when being kicked.
Same last week in the Tyrone / Kerry game.
I actually think it adds to the theatre of the games tbh.
I was disappointed to hear Mayo fans booing free takers in the 2nd half.
Quote from: Canalman on August 30, 2015, 09:30:41 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on August 30, 2015, 09:24:35 PM
Quote from: StephenC on August 30, 2015, 08:25:43 PM
How about the Dublin fans booing the Mayo lad getting interviewed at the end. Strange behaviour.
Nothing strange about it. They're scumbags.
It might amaze you to know that all fans in CP boo the freetaker now. Dublin got very few kickable frees today and were booed by Mayo fans when being kicked.
Same last week in the Tyrone / Kerry game.
I actually think it adds to the theatre of the games tbh.
Free kicks wasn't the issue here. While booing does exist, Dublin are by far the worst. And it's not just free kicks, as witnessed earlier.
Booing adds to the games? What a ridiculous comment to make.
Quote from: squire_in_navy_slacks on August 30, 2015, 09:33:23 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on August 30, 2015, 09:24:35 PM
Quote from: StephenC on August 30, 2015, 08:25:43 PM
How about the Dublin fans booing the Mayo lad getting interviewed at the end. Strange behaviour.
Nothing strange about it. They're scumbags.
All coming out now isn't it ?
Nope. I've always maintained it.
Quote from: yellowcard on August 30, 2015, 08:34:31 PM
Meanwhile Kerry are sitting back laughing watching Dublin and Mayo beat each other up with injuries and suspensions imminent.
One of the great gaa'isms!
Quote from: BennyCake on August 30, 2015, 09:35:18 PM
Quote from: Canalman on August 30, 2015, 09:30:41 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on August 30, 2015, 09:24:35 PM
Quote from: StephenC on August 30, 2015, 08:25:43 PM
How about the Dublin fans booing the Mayo lad getting interviewed at the end. Strange behaviour.
Nothing strange about it. They're scumbags.
It might amaze you to know that all fans in CP boo the freetaker now. Dublin got very few kickable frees today and were booed by Mayo fans when being kicked.
Same last week in the Tyrone / Kerry game.
I actually think it adds to the theatre of the games tbh.
Free kicks wasn't the issue here. While booing does exist, Dublin are by far the worst. And it's not just free kicks, as witnessed earlier.
Booing adds to the games? What a ridiculous comment to make.
I said it adds to the theatre of the game.
Quote from: BennyCake on August 30, 2015, 09:37:32 PM
Quote from: squire_in_navy_slacks on August 30, 2015, 09:33:23 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on August 30, 2015, 09:24:35 PM
Quote from: StephenC on August 30, 2015, 08:25:43 PM
How about the Dublin fans booing the Mayo lad getting interviewed at the end. Strange behaviour.
Nothing strange about it. They're scumbags.
All coming out now isn't it ?
Nope. I've always maintained it.
All Dublin fans ? Every single one
That should've been red for Cooper. McQuillan hasn't the balls to dish out reds though.
Quote from: BennyCake on August 30, 2015, 09:35:18 PM
Quote from: Canalman on August 30, 2015, 09:30:41 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on August 30, 2015, 09:24:35 PM
Quote from: StephenC on August 30, 2015, 08:25:43 PM
How about the Dublin fans booing the Mayo lad getting interviewed at the end. Strange behaviour.
Nothing strange about it. They're scumbags.
It might amaze you to know that all fans in CP boo the freetaker now. Dublin got very few kickable frees today and were booed by Mayo fans when being kicked.
Same last week in the Tyrone / Kerry game.
I actually think it adds to the theatre of the games tbh.
Free kicks wasn't the issue here. While booing does exist, Dublin are by far the worst. And it's not just free kicks, as witnessed earlier.
Booing adds to the games? What a ridiculous comment to make.
You know what adds to games, ending players careers and walking from your country, your avatar suits your ilk, an egomaniac
If the CCCC get active, there will be a lot of personnel changes for the next day. It will be all swept under the carpet I think.
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Quote from: squire_in_navy_slacks on August 30, 2015, 09:33:23 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on August 30, 2015, 09:24:35 PM
Quote from: StephenC on August 30, 2015, 08:25:43 PM
How about the Dublin fans booing the Mayo lad getting interviewed at the end. Strange behaviour.
Nothing strange about it. They're scumbags.
All coming out now isn't it ?
Nope. I've always maintained it.
All Dublin fans ? Every single one
The gypos on the hill.
Quote from: squire_in_navy_slacks on August 30, 2015, 09:41:39 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on August 30, 2015, 09:35:18 PM
Quote from: Canalman on August 30, 2015, 09:30:41 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on August 30, 2015, 09:24:35 PM
Quote from: StephenC on August 30, 2015, 08:25:43 PM
How about the Dublin fans booing the Mayo lad getting interviewed at the end. Strange behaviour.
Nothing strange about it. They're scumbags.
It might amaze you to know that all fans in CP boo the freetaker now. Dublin got very few kickable frees today and were booed by Mayo fans when being kicked.
Same last week in the Tyrone / Kerry game.
I actually think it adds to the theatre of the games tbh.
Free kicks wasn't the issue here. While booing does exist, Dublin are by far the worst. And it's not just free kicks, as witnessed earlier.
Booing adds to the games? What a ridiculous comment to make.
You know what adds to games, ending players careers and walking from your country, your avatar suits your ilk, an egomaniac
Attacking my avatar. I'm so hurt!
MDMA was very unlucky with that back card. Sometimes a foul is just a foul.
Mayo haven't the forwards to win an all-Ireland, the dubs haven't the midfield for it and Kerry haven't the backs for it so if i had a team with the Kerry midfield, Dub forwards and Mayo Defence i wouldn't be stopped lol. Forwards win all-irelands though and Mayo seem to be short in this department
Small picked the ball clean off he ground in small square after he saved the ball on the line. Should have been penalty to Mayo.
Cafferty probably overcarried in run up to Dublins 2nd goal.
As usual, the final didn't live up to its billing. Let's hope the replay will be better and Mayo win their first All-Ireland in 64 years next Saturday
Poor showing by both teams today. Terrible tackling, many wides, unsurpassed cynicism by the Dubs but by God Mayo showed some heart. Who would be a football Goalie at the minute? Cluxton replicated Morgan's horror show from last week especially when Mayo copped on to the short kickout and moved O'Shea out the field. Think O'Shea is over-rated but jaysus he takes some abuse in a game and has learnt to keep his head. Some block by Dublin defender near the end to save the game. Tyrone and Kerry look to be above these teams due to their disciplined tackling and speed of counter attack. Cillian O'Connor the best player in the country.
Quote from: bcarrier on August 30, 2015, 09:56:13 PM
Small picked the ball clean off he ground in small square after he saved the ball on the line. Should have been penalty to Mayo.
Cafferty probably overcarried in run up to Dublins 2nd goal.
Except he didn't. just watched it and the ball was bouncing and he got his toe under it - great save.
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Quote from: bcarrier on August 30, 2015, 09:56:13 PM
Small picked the ball clean off he ground in small square after he saved the ball on the line. Should have been penalty to Mayo.
Cafferty probably overcarried in run up to Dublins 2nd goal.
Except he didn't. just watched it and the ball was bouncing and he got his toe under it - great save.
watch it again then.
Quote from: BennyCake on August 30, 2015, 09:40:20 PM
That should've been red for Cooper. McQuillan hasn't the balls to dish out reds though.
He gave connolly one when keegan looked the agressor !
Teams only should play it short if its very mcuh on otherwise if you got a good midfield tank it out to them, funny when Mayo did go long the Dublin got the 2 or 3 balls in the middle of the field
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Quote from: bcarrier on August 30, 2015, 09:56:13 PM
Small picked the ball clean off he ground in small square after he saved the ball on the line. Should have been penalty to Mayo.
Cafferty probably overcarried in run up to Dublins 2nd goal.
Except he didn't. just watched it and the ball was bouncing and he got his toe under it - great save.
watch it again then.
The 3 amigos in the studio don't seem to think so either !
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Quote from: straightred on August 30, 2015, 09:58:53 PM
Quote from: bcarrier on August 30, 2015, 09:56:13 PM
Small picked the ball clean off he ground in small square after he saved the ball on the line. Should have been penalty to Mayo.
Cafferty probably overcarried in run up to Dublins 2nd goal.
Except he didn't. just watched it and the ball was bouncing and he got his toe under it - great save.
watch it again then.
The 3 amigos in the studio don't seem to think so either !
That's because it wasnt
Quote from: straightred on August 30, 2015, 10:05:46 PM
Quote from: bcarrier on August 30, 2015, 10:00:10 PM
Quote from: straightred on August 30, 2015, 09:58:53 PM
Quote from: bcarrier on August 30, 2015, 09:56:13 PM
Small picked the ball clean off he ground in small square after he saved the ball on the line. Should have been penalty to Mayo.
Cafferty probably overcarried in run up to Dublins 2nd goal.
Except he didn't. just watched it and the ball was bouncing and he got his toe under it - great save.
watch it again then.
The 3 amigos in the studio don't seem to think so either !
i didnt spot it until replay but he got way with it.
Quote from: bcarrier on August 30, 2015, 10:08:38 PM
Quote from: straightred on August 30, 2015, 10:05:46 PM
Quote from: bcarrier on August 30, 2015, 10:00:10 PM
Quote from: straightred on August 30, 2015, 09:58:53 PM
Quote from: bcarrier on August 30, 2015, 09:56:13 PM
Small picked the ball clean off he ground in small square after he saved the ball on the line. Should have been penalty to Mayo.
Cafferty probably overcarried in run up to Dublins 2nd goal.
Except he didn't. just watched it and the ball was bouncing and he got his toe under it - great save.
watch it again then.
The 3 amigos in the studio don't seem to think so either !
i didnt spot it until replay but he got way with it.
specsavers in the morning methinks
COC won't sleep well tonight
for all the shouting about the O`Connor incident, nothing in it at all, not even a yellow
Quote from: INDIANA on August 30, 2015, 10:15:58 PM
COC won't sleep well tonight
Why?
Is there another video?
Quote from: INDIANA on August 30, 2015, 10:15:58 PM
COC won't sleep well tonight
Have they shown it?? Can't get fecking RTE where I'm at!!
Sublime performances by two team who really know how to play football the right way the way it should be played - Hard but fair, played in a manly way with no quarter given. A real roller coaster of a game, full of skill, passion and all that is good about the game. We were truly honoured today to see such a feast😃
He won't be done for that.
Running forward, interfered with from behind by ROC, reacts without looking behind him.
Much as you would like it COC will be playin
Can someone who actually knows what happened to Rory O'Carroll say what happened? Or does anyone know?
Biased of course, but have to say Diarmuid harshly treated there from what I saw.
Philly Mc in a bit of doodoo. COC possibly also.
Quote from: Bensars on August 30, 2015, 10:18:53 PM
He won't be done for that.
Running forward, interfered with from behind by ROC, reacts without looking behind him.
Much as you would like it COC will be playin
Oh they will because we'll make damn sure of it. Do you honestly think with Connolly out we're going to allow them away with that.
They will obligated to investigate an incident whereby a player received 11 stitches to the face for a blatant elbow.
Keegan interfered with Connolly- didn't stop Dublin getting a red
Clear headbut on AOS tho
Quote from: Bensars on August 30, 2015, 10:18:53 PM
He won't be done for that.
Running forward, interfered with from behind by ROC, reacts without looking behind him.
Much as you would like it COC will be playin
I would agree.
F*ck all in it. But it is hard to see where the cut came from. It wasn't an elbow. It was further down the arm but O'Connor wasn't even looking. I thought he was trying to knock away the arm that was pulling his jersey, but must have caught him higher.
Quote from: Canalman on August 30, 2015, 10:19:30 PM
Biased of course, but have to say Diarmuid harshly treated there from what I saw.
Philly Mc in a bit of doodoo. COC possibly also.
If Connolly threw a dig, o Connor did too on the follow up on top of Connolly
What do you mean by that Indy? 'We'll make sure of it'. Do the Dubs have more power than anyone else or something?
Surprised they didn't highlight McMahon's attack on Boyle after he went to ground for the penalty.
The shine is starting to come off smirking Jim.
Connolly will get off, never a sending off. COC no case to answer either. Cooper's was the dirtiest stroke of the day.
Quote from: Estimator on August 30, 2015, 10:22:02 PM
Surprised they didn't highlight McMahon's attack on Boyle after he went to ground for the penalty.
Can you do it please? He's no loss.
It was on TV there O`Carrol had his arms round O`Connor waist and as O`Connor swung round to get loose he accidentally clipped the dub fullback with the back of his open hand as be swung round, Not even a free to be honest fore by black,yellow or red.
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on August 30, 2015, 10:24:19 PM
It was on TV there O`Carrol had his arms round O`Connor waist and as O`Connor swung round to get loose he accidentally clipped the dub fullback with the back of his open hand as be swung round, Not even a free to be honest fore by black,yellow or red.
11 stitches and it's not a free ;D
Quote from: INDIANA on August 30, 2015, 10:22:48 PM
Quote from: Estimator on August 30, 2015, 10:22:02 PM
Surprised they didn't highlight McMahon's attack on Boyle after he went to ground for the penalty.
Can you do it please? He's no loss.
It beggars belief what must go through his head at times.
I'll just keep quiet and hopefully he'll be playing again next week.
Restarted the poll
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 30, 2015, 10:21:54 PM
What do you mean by that Indy? 'We'll make sure of it'. Do the Dubs have more power than anyone else or something?
If you were to take indiana seriously then he would sound like he would have about the same amount of power as barack obama...
Its not a free, your credibility long gone on here now, coming out with statements he was took out with an elbow then getting shown up by the real highlights on TV lol
Quote from: INDIANA on August 30, 2015, 10:25:12 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on August 30, 2015, 10:24:19 PM
It was on TV there O`Carrol had his arms round O`Connor waist and as O`Connor swung round to get loose he accidentally clipped the dub fullback with the back of his open hand as be swung round, Not even a free to be honest fore by black,yellow or red.
11 stitches and it's not a free ;D
Should have been a free for Mayo
If ROC had some manners he wouldn't have got it.
Hope Mayo give yous more of it, Dublin can't cope when it's put up to them
On a positive, there was no biting today which is an improvement!
http://www.balls.ie/gaa/rory-ocarroll/306891?utm_campaign=twitter&utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitter
Dublin were involved in more incidents today than Tyrone, public enemy no.1, were involved in all the past 10 years - constant sledging, karate kick tackles, clothes line tackles, foot trips, diving, feigning injury, headbutts, closed fist punches, off the ball nonsense. I'm sure they will get vilified in the coming days the same way Tyrone were. Time will tell.
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Quote from: Wildweasel74 on August 30, 2015, 10:24:19 PM
It was on TV there O`Carrol had his arms round O`Connor waist and as O`Connor swung round to get loose he accidentally clipped the dub fullback with the back of his open hand as be swung round, Not even a free to be honest fore by black,yellow or red.
11 stitches and it's not a free ;D
in a ideal world there'd be no suspensions an we'd see full teams but i wouldn't be surprised to see mcmahon and coc suspended as neither were dealt with on the pitch
Should have been a free for Mayo
If ROC had some manners he wouldn't have got it.
Hope Mayo give yous more of it, Dublin can't cope when it's put up to yous
On a positive, there was no biting today which is an improvement!
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on August 30, 2015, 10:27:00 PM
Its not a free, your credibility long gone on here now, coming out with statements he was took out with an elbow then getting shown up by the real highlights on TV lol
But it was a gouge was it not? And if it wasn't that it was an elbow! Aidan O'Shea did it didn't he? Oh no there was a change of mind it was O'Connor! But apparently because there was stitches there has to be an investigation its in the rules!
Quote from: INDIANA on August 30, 2015, 10:20:28 PM
Keegan interfered with Connolly
Bloody hell, this game really had it all ;D ;D ;D ;D
Cluxton kicked out a O'Shea (who could have got a black for the tackle) & Cooper kicked out at o'Connor
Connelly clearer strikes/punches Keegan also pushes a mayo players head into the ground in the second half at one stage and involved in alot of incidents (not all his own making) O'Shea as a contrast should how to respond to teams trying to rise you and just got on with it
McMahon headbutts/attempts headbutt
O'Sullivan also strikes O'connor in the head, Bastick trips Moran. MDMA black was harsh but he did take his two feet of the ground in the tackle
Nothing on the ROC/ COC incident, COC it looked like was trying to get a linemans/ref/umpires attention to pulling and in my view accidentally hit ROC
Fair play to the Sunday Game panel, especially Ciaran Whelan, who pulled no punches, made no excuses & called it straight.
A disgrace of a game.
Quote from: Bensars on August 30, 2015, 10:28:49 PM
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Quote from: Wildweasel74 on August 30, 2015, 10:24:19 PM
It was on TV there O`Carrol had his arms round O`Connor waist and as O`Connor swung round to get loose he accidentally clipped the dub fullback with the back of his open hand as be swung round, Not even a free to be honest fore by black,yellow or red.
11 stitches and it's not a free ;D
Should have been a free for Mayo
If ROC had some manners he wouldn't have got it.
Hope Mayo give yous more of it, Dublin can't cope when it's put up to them
On a positive, there was no biting today which is an improvement!
Don't worry about it Bensars. We're happy to send you pictures of All Ireland Medals because it's the closest you'll get to seeing one ;D
I think I'll clean mine in the morning- might take a while. ;)
Must be a bit flaky if thon flailing arm split him open.
Quote from: Rodman on August 30, 2015, 10:30:35 PM
Dublin were involved in more incidents today than Tyrone, public enemy no.1, were involved in all the past 10 years - constant sledging, karate kick tackles, clothes line tackles, foot trips, diving, feigning injury, headbutts, closed fist punches, off the ball nonsense. I'm sure they will get vilified in the coming days the same way Tyrone were. Time will tell.
We nearly went a whole page without Tyrone being mentioned.
Fair play to you for righting that wrong...
Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on August 30, 2015, 10:33:33 PM
Cluxton kicked out a O'Shea (who could have got a black for the tackle) & Cooper kicked out at o'Connor
Connelly clearer strikes/punches Keegan also pushes a mayo players head into the ground in the second half at one stage and involved in alot of incidents (not all his own making) O'Shea as a contrast should how to respond to teams trying to rise you and just got on with it
McMahon headbutts/attempts headbutt
O'Sullivan also strikes O'connor in the head, Bastick trips Moran. MDMA black was harsh but he did take his two feet of the ground in the tackle
Nothing on the ROC/ COC incident, COC it looked like was trying to get a linemans/ref/umpires attention to pulling and in my view accidentally hit ROC
Naw - not having that. There was malice in it (as the stictches prove). He had a right good swing and hit him plum
As a neutral I think O'Connor should be done for that. He struck and caused serious injury je definitely has a case to answer!!
Along with McMahon and Cooper who should both be banned for their respective transgressions.
As mentioned on the other thread Connolly is a fantastic footballer but as long as he engages in that nonsense it will stop him being one of the greats.
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Nothing horrendous about that. Disappointing actually, given the suspense beforehand.
11/12 stitches should we go with 1 game ban per stitch??
While we are at it, since intent has nothing to do with it how long should the Dublin lad get for the injury to Vaughan?
How long before Diarmuid Connolly seriously injures someone? A man who will hold someone down on the ground and drive a punch into their face is dangerous regardless if it's on the field. He's pleaded guilty to breaking a man's cheekbone on a night out, unprovoked.
Cooper got a yellow for his crude tackle/jump so that's incident dealt with, i dont think they can come back to it and upgrade the card or can they, as they can downgrade cards given so surely the same works vice verse?
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Nothing horrendous about that. Disappointing actually, given the suspense beforehand.
He was clearly waving at the umpires and caught him accidentally.
Tyrone Monaghan last ten minutes like Strictly Come Dancing compared to this game. Kerry Mayo Final with Kerry advancing with the best firepower in the country.
Quote from: screenexile on August 30, 2015, 10:39:02 PM
As a neutral I think O'Connor should be done for that. He struck and caused serious injury je definitely has a case to answer!!
Along with McMahon and Cooper who should both be banned for their respective transgressions.
As mentioned on the other thread Connolly is a fantastic footballer but as long as he engages in that nonsense it will stop him being one of the greats.
He cannot be aware of where O Carrolls head is as he's trying to break free from the tackle. That can't be a deliberate strike with any intent.
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on August 30, 2015, 10:43:14 PM
Cooper got a yellow for his crude tackle/jump so that's incident dealt with, i dont think they can come back to it and upgrade the card or can they, as they can downgrade cards given so surely the same works vice verse?
Once a referee has dealt with the incident I think that's it!
Lad's I'm no great Dubs supporter but O'Connor definitely has a case to answer in my opinion. As a great man once said "ye strak ye go" and O'Connor clearly struck out at O'Carroll!!!
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Nothing horrendous about that. Disappointing actually, given the suspense beforehand.
He was clearly waving at the umpires and caught him accidentally.
I don't think that's correct but I agree that it was accidental
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Nothing horrendous about that. Disappointing actually, given the suspense beforehand.
He was clearly waving at the umpires and caught him accidentally.
Obvioously he was trying to get the umpires attention before he intentionally hit him in the face.
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Nothing horrendous about that. Disappointing actually, given the suspense beforehand.
He was clearly waving at the umpires and caught him accidentally.
His arm flapping was almost camp, I reckon it wouldn't have left a scratch on a lot of other players. Seemingly the criteria for retrospective punishment seems to be the number of stitches it required after.
Quote from: screenexile on August 30, 2015, 10:48:10 PM
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Cooper got a yellow for his crude tackle/jump so that's incident dealt with, i dont think they can come back to it and upgrade the card or can they, as they can downgrade cards given so surely the same works vice verse?
Once a referee has dealt with the incident I think that's it!
Lad's I'm no great Dubs supporter but O'Connor definitely has a case to answer in my opinion. As a great man once said "ye strak ye go" and O'Connor clearly struck out at O'Carroll!!!
How many times does a lad get an inadvertent bang on the head when being tackled and it's not judged as a deliberate strike.
I dont think theres anything in that other than trying to break free or highlight he is being held by flailing around. Hit him with the elbow but it wasnt an elbow drawn back like you typically see when a lad is trying to do damage.
Quote from: Chimley on August 30, 2015, 10:46:17 PM
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As a neutral I think O'Connor should be done for that. He struck and caused serious injury je definitely has a case to answer!!
Along with McMahon and Cooper who should both be banned for their respective transgressions.
As mentioned on the other thread Connolly is a fantastic footballer but as long as he engages in that nonsense it will stop him being one of the greats.
He cannot be aware of where O Carrolls head is as he's trying to break free from the tackle. That can't be a deliberate strike with any intent.
11 stitches? Do you know how much force is required for someone to get 11 stitches?
He hasn't a leg to stand on and I can guarantee you it's going to be pursued.
I've no issue with Mc Mahon getting a ban. Cooper as well no excuse was an awful tackle.
If Diarmuid gets banned - fair enough I still mantain Keegan did nothing except try to get him sent off but Diarmuid raised his fists.
However I want fair play and O Connor's inter county season should be finished tonight.
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Nothing horrendous about that. Disappointing actually, given the suspense beforehand.
He was clearly waving at the umpires and caught him accidentally.
I don't think that's correct but I agree that it was accidental
Actually having watched it a few more times I reckon he may well have a case to answer
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Nothing horrendous about that. Disappointing actually, given the suspense beforehand.
He was clearly waving at the umpires and caught him accidentally.
Definitely wasn't accidental as you can see him change his body movement to swing his left arm. The Dublin player was hanging off him, fouling him, and he swung back in frustration. Looked a forceful blow, super dangerous to the head but still unlikely to get done for that.
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Nothing horrendous about that. Disappointing actually, given the suspense beforehand.
He was clearly waving at the umpires and caught him accidentally.
Its pretty clear it was accidental.
I think youre a mile off base here. It may be pursued but i will be shocked if coc is banned.
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As a neutral I think O'Connor should be done for that. He struck and caused serious injury je definitely has a case to answer!!
Along with McMahon and Cooper who should both be banned for their respective transgressions.
As mentioned on the other thread Connolly is a fantastic footballer but as long as he engages in that nonsense it will stop him being one of the greats.
He cannot be aware of where O Carrolls head is as he's trying to break free from the tackle. That can't be a deliberate strike with any intent.
11 stitches? Do you know how much force is required for someone to get 11 stitches?
He hasn't a leg to stand on and I can guarantee you it's going to be pursued.
I've no issue with Mc Mahon getting a ban. Cooper as well no excuse was an awful tackle.
If Diarmuid gets banned - fair enough I still mantain Keegan did nothing except try to get him sent off but Diarmuid raised his fists.
However I want fair play and O Connor's inter county season should be finished tonight.
Fair play.. i'm not sure you understand the term.
O Connor incident is definitely not a red card offence. It's unfortunate for O'Carroll that he suffered a nasty cut and missed most of the match but that shouldn't deter from the fact that O' Connor was simply trying to shake him off after being pulled and mauled.
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As a neutral I think O'Connor should be done for that. He struck and caused serious injury je definitely has a case to answer!!
Along with McMahon and Cooper who should both be banned for their respective transgressions.
As mentioned on the other thread Connolly is a fantastic footballer but as long as he engages in that nonsense it will stop him being one of the greats.
He cannot be aware of where O Carrolls head is as he's trying to break free from the tackle. That can't be a deliberate strike with any intent.
11 stitches? Do you know how much force is required for someone to get 11 stitches?
He hasn't a leg to stand on and I can guarantee you it's going to be pursued.
I've no issue with Mc Mahon getting a ban. Cooper as well no excuse was an awful tackle.
If Diarmuid gets banned - fair enough I still mantain Keegan did nothing except try to get him sent off but Diarmuid raised his fists.
However I want fair play and O Connor's inter county season should be finished tonight.
O Carrolls skin must be made of papyrus or some other delicate material-how in gods name would be need 11 stitches after that "hit"
No chance will o Connor be done for that.
It would make life a lot easier for Dublin, granted.
Not a hope. A player trying to escape being held by a defender at least 50 yds from the play.No direct movement of player towards ROC
No chance. He'll be playing.
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 30, 2015, 10:55:29 PM
I think youre a mile off base here. It may be pursued but i will be shocked if coc is banned.
Prepare to be shocked. Because if they pursue Mc Mahon based on video evidence. COC goose is cooked.
That's what i'm hearing and in fairness I'm the one who said the Sunday Game would show the COC incident.
You never know Diarmuid may get off and then COC will get away with it ;)
You'd be amazed how these things can all work out.
Quote from: yellowcard on August 30, 2015, 10:56:26 PM
O Connor incident is definitely not a red card offence. It's unfortunate for O'Carroll that he suffered a nasty cut and missed most of the match but that shouldn't deter from the fact that O' Connor was simply trying to shake him off after being pulled and mauled.
You can't throw a fist back at that height and not expect to do damage!! He has to be in trouble for that!!
Quote from: Bensars on August 30, 2015, 10:58:25 PM
No chance will o Connor be done for that.
It would make life a lot easier for Dublin, granted.
Not a hope. A player trying to escape being held by a defender at least 50 yds from the play.No direct movement of player towards ROC
No chance. He'll be playing.
Better off not getting involved when you've no idea what's going on behind the scenes.
But intelligence was never your strong point.
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Nothing horrendous about that. Disappointing actually, given the suspense beforehand.
He was clearly waving at the umpires and caught him accidentally.
Its pretty clear it was accidental.
11 stitches! 11 stitches ffs!
O'Connor was raising his hands and roaring at the umpires to watch what was happening. He'd hardly risk an intentional elbow while doing that. Connolly held someone down on the ground and punched them intentionally in the face. The two incidents are worlds apart. O'Connor would be hard done by to miss the replay and final over that.
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Quote from: AZOffaly on August 30, 2015, 10:55:29 PM
I think youre a mile off base here. It may be pursued but i will be shocked if coc is banned.
Prepare to be shocked. Because if they pursue Mc Mahon based on video evidence. COC goose is cooked.
That's what i'm hearing and in fairness I'm the one who said the Sunday Game would show the COC incident.
You never know Diarmuid may get off and then COC will get away with it ;)
You'd be amazed how these things can all work out.
Would it be more difficult to get a player off a ban than get one banned whose incident wasn't dealt with during the game??
Quote from: screenexile on August 30, 2015, 10:58:44 PM
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O Connor incident is definitely not a red card offence. It's unfortunate for O'Carroll that he suffered a nasty cut and missed most of the match but that shouldn't deter from the fact that O' Connor was simply trying to shake him off after being pulled and mauled.
You can't throw a fist back at that height and not expect to do damage!! He has to be in trouble for that!!
Even if it was a fist (I'd say more of a flailing hand) I doubt if O Connor intended to hurt his opponent but he simply intended to break free from being illegally held off the ball. Never in a million years is that a red card offence. Your allowing the 11 stitches to cloud your judgement here.
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Quote from: AZOffaly on August 30, 2015, 10:55:29 PM
I think youre a mile off base here. It may be pursued but i will be shocked if coc is banned.
Prepare to be shocked. Because if they pursue Mc Mahon based on video evidence. COC goose is cooked.
That's what i'm hearing and in fairness I'm the one who said the Sunday Game would show the COC incident.
You never know Diarmuid may get off and then COC will get away with it ;)
You'd be amazed how these things can all work out.
Would it be more difficult to get a player off a ban than get one banned whose incident wasn't dealt with during the game??
The Kevin Keane incident has the potential to change the face of all striking incidents coming before the Hearings Committee.
It was a remarkably dumb case to over-turn
Quote from: Westside on August 30, 2015, 11:00:18 PM
O'Connor was raising his hands and roaring at the umpires to watch what was happening. He'd hardly risk an intentional elbow while doing that. Connolly held someone down on the ground and punched them intentionally in the face. The two incidents are worlds apart. O'Connor would be hard done by to miss the replay and final over that.
Yeah but, Indiana is going to use all his power to get him banned...
Quote from: INDIANA on August 30, 2015, 10:59:27 PM
Quote from: Bensars on August 30, 2015, 10:58:25 PM
No chance will o Connor be done for that.
It would make life a lot easier for Dublin, granted.
Not a hope. A player trying to escape being held by a defender at least 50 yds from the play.No direct movement of player towards ROC
No chance. He'll be playing.
Better off not getting involved when you've no idea what's going on behind the scenes.
But intelligence was never your strong point.
Lol.... Like your statement on the gouging by AOS.
Thought you dubs were man of tougher stuff, i remember C McBride and Brian Dooher playing on after getting bad cuts back in the 90`s maybe they were abit stearner stuff back then lol
Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on August 30, 2015, 10:42:30 PM
11/12 stitches should we go with 1 game ban per stitch??
While we are at it, since intent has nothing to do with it how long should the Dublin lad get for the injury to Vaughan?
You fool, hard man Vaughan made the shoulder tackle and came off the worse of it
Cooper planting his studs into an opponents leg was the nastiest incident of the entire match. If anyone deserves a retrospective ban then it's him.
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Quote from: AZOffaly on August 30, 2015, 10:55:29 PM
I think youre a mile off base here. It may be pursued but i will be shocked if coc is banned.
Prepare to be shocked. Because if they pursue Mc Mahon based on video evidence. COC goose is cooked.
That's what i'm hearing and in fairness I'm the one who said the Sunday Game would show the COC incident.
You never know Diarmuid may get off and then COC will get away with it ;)
You'd be amazed how these things can all work out.
Would it be more difficult to get a player off a ban than get one banned whose incident wasn't dealt with during the game??
Much more difficult. Cooper is off the hook. McMahon and COC will both be (deservedly) banned IMO. The angelic defence of COC is bemusing. Clear intent IMO.
Quote from: Westside on August 30, 2015, 11:00:18 PM
O'Connor was raising his hands and roaring at the umpires to watch what was happening. He'd hardly risk an intentional elbow while doing that. Connolly held someone down on the ground and punched them intentionally in the face. The two incidents are worlds apart. O'Connor would be hard done by to miss the replay and final over that.
OConnor struck Connolly on the ground too, footage proves this
Quote from: yellowcard on August 30, 2015, 11:03:41 PM
Cooper planting his studs into an opponents leg was the nastiest incident of the entire match. If anyone deserves a retrospective ban then it's him.
Totally agree.
Quote from: yellowcard on August 30, 2015, 11:03:41 PM
Cooper planting his studs into an opponents leg was the nastiest incident of the entire match. If anyone deserves a retrospective ban then it's him.
Suits me. Strengthens the team. Can you contact the Hearings Committee?
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Quote from: AZOffaly on August 30, 2015, 10:55:29 PM
I think youre a mile off base here. It may be pursued but i will be shocked if coc is banned.
Prepare to be shocked. Because if they pursue Mc Mahon based on video evidence. COC goose is cooked.
That's what i'm hearing and in fairness I'm the one who said the Sunday Game would show the COC incident.
You never know Diarmuid may get off and then COC will get away with it ;)
You'd be amazed how these things can all work out.
Would it be more difficult to get a player off a ban than get one banned whose incident wasn't dealt with during the game??
Much more difficult. Cooper is off the hook. McMahon and COC will both be (deservedly) banned IMO. The angelic defence of COC is bemusing. Clear intent IMO.
Let's see how far all this can go. I'll start. Cluxton clearly kicked out at AOS too. Clearly a red card offence and should be dealt with accordingly. Season over for Clucko I'm afraid.
I must watch this game on Tuesday night when they show it on Canadian TV.
Sounds like its not one for the faint hearted.
Nothing will happen about the O'Connor incident.
Looked accidental to me.
I'd believe the number of stitches needed to close it though.
It looked like a boxers cut where the skin split against the top of the socket.
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Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on August 30, 2015, 10:42:30 PM
11/12 stitches should we go with 1 game ban per stitch??
While we are at it, since intent has nothing to do with it how long should the Dublin lad get for the injury to Vaughan?
You fool, hard man Vaughan made the shoulder tackle and came off the worse of it
Or hard man ROC was pulling and dragging out of COC and came off the worse of it.
so people want COC suspended, the dublin player who injured Vaughan should also be suspended using the logic that the level of the injury should determine the punishment!!!
dunno how we survived that after Mayo getting level, with us out on our feet. The game will bring us on and while Connolly will be a huge loss, Mayo will only beat us if we play shite again, given their lack of firepower up front.
Can the real Paul Flynn please stand up. His workrate this year is about 50% of previous years. Quality is still there when he gets involved.
Need to get more ball into Bernard. No Mayo defender can cope with him, but that's not worth an iota if there's no good ball going in.
Should be a humdinger next Saturday. The winner will be better placed to beat Kerry than if they had won today.
I think the Dubs are going to slip a bit of their AIG money into the CCCC's pocket!
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on August 30, 2015, 11:08:06 PM
I must watch this game on Tuesday night when they show it on Canadian TV.
Sounds like its not one for the faint hearted.
Save yourself some time and just watch the last 10minutes.
The rest of it was shite.
Quote from: screenexile on August 09, 2015, 01:19:17 AM
This and the AIF will be the 2 best games of the year (do we count Wmeath Meath?)
Really looking forward to it.
I didn't see it but heard Kildare Laois was a cracking game. Leinster might not be so bad after all.
Berno doesn't get the credit he deserves in my opinion.
Is seriously efficient in terms of using possession and must have the highest conversion ratio from play in the country.
Can win it high or low and lethal off both feet.
Plays the game the right way too.
Quote from: laoislad on August 30, 2015, 11:12:19 PM
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on August 30, 2015, 11:08:06 PM
I must watch this game on Tuesday night when they show it on Canadian TV.
Sounds like its not one for the faint hearted.
Save yourself some time and just watch the last 10minutes.
The rest of it was shite.
Nah nah, let him watch all of it ;D
It's very clear that O'Connor didn't clench his fist and send an anchored elbow towards O'Carroll's head, but slapped back, catching him accidentally with his forearm. Freak injury. Very clear who Dubs see as the danger man for next week.
Do we ever talk about the actual football on here anymore?
Has anyone mentioned the amount of stitches he received yet?
Quote from: Donnellys Hollow on August 30, 2015, 11:15:41 PM
Do we ever talk about the actual football on here anymore?
In fairness, there was very little on display today.
Anyway we can get both teams banned?
football? sorry ddint seen the minors today, probably the only football played all day!
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Quote from: AZOffaly on August 30, 2015, 10:55:29 PM
I think youre a mile off base here. It may be pursued but i will be shocked if coc is banned.
Prepare to be shocked. Because if they pursue Mc Mahon based on video evidence. COC goose is cooked.
That's what i'm hearing and in fairness I'm the one who said the Sunday Game would show the COC incident.
You never know Diarmuid may get off and then COC will get away with it ;)
You'd be amazed how these things can all work out.
Would it be more difficult to get a player off a ban than get one banned whose incident wasn't dealt with during the game??
The Kevin Keane incident has the potential to change the face of all striking incidents coming before the Hearings Committee.
It was a remarkably dumb case to over-turn
Depends how he got off. Probably was a technicality which wouldn't happen again hopefully.
Quote from: Westside on August 30, 2015, 10:42:49 PM
How long before Diarmuid Connolly seriously injures someone? A man who will hold someone down on the ground and drive a punch into their face is dangerous regardless if it's on the field. He's pleaded guilty to breaking a man's cheekbone on a night out, unprovoked.
Does breaking a lad's eye socket or cheekbone count?? I can't remember which it was.
Quote from: screenexile on August 30, 2015, 10:48:10 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on August 30, 2015, 10:43:14 PM
Cooper got a yellow for his crude tackle/jump so that's incident dealt with, i dont think they can come back to it and upgrade the card or can they, as they can downgrade cards given so surely the same works vice verse?
Once a referee has dealt with the incident I think that's it!
Lad's I'm no great Dubs supporter but O'Connor definitely has a case to answer in my opinion. As a great man once said "ye strak ye go" and O'Connor clearly struck out at O'Carroll!!!
Would you quote Eamon Coleman properly? He didn't say above!!
Quote from: Estimator on August 30, 2015, 11:17:13 PM
Has anyone mentioned the amount of stitches he received yet?
...had it been ten stitches it would've been accidental. But eleven......eleven, FFS!
I heard O'Carroll got gouged so badly that they had to stitch his whole head back on.
By the way guys, Kevin Mc double hopped the ball for his point. Amazed no one has picked up on it.
Quote from: Canalman on August 30, 2015, 11:28:04 PM
By the way guys, Kevin Mc double hopped the ball for his point. Amazed no one has picked up on it.
Ref's arm was raised playing an advantage so it should have been a 14yd free which i doubt would have been missed
Quote from: straightred on August 30, 2015, 11:30:31 PM
Quote from: Canalman on August 30, 2015, 11:28:04 PM
By the way guys, Kevin Mc double hopped the ball for his point. Amazed no one has picked up on it.
Ref's arm was raised playing an advantage so it should have been a 14yd free which i doubt would have been missed
Fair enough SR,
Hard stuff today in Croke Park. There was according to the Sunday game lads a serious lot of negatives, off the ball stuff, pulling and dragging, diving etc but according to Whelo it was at the same time "brilliant".
Dublin and Mayo 2 very tough outfits. Jim Gavin comes across very well on TV.
Don't know how Dublin lost. They'll win the replay even without Connolly IMO.
Quote from: Welly Man on August 30, 2015, 11:34:49 PM
Brogan hit a kick in first half which looked yards wide. Thought that was why hawkeye was introduced. Awful game. Last ten was great stuff tho. The dubs seem to feel fairly aggrieved. I suppose i would too if someone unexpectantly started applyin the same rules as everyone else when id gotten away with it for years....
I was on the cusask so couldn't see properly. It dropped over the bar and the goalie didn't object but a load of mayo people around me were getting thick about it (but they had the same bad view that I had)
Quote from: Canalman on August 30, 2015, 11:32:44 PM
Quote from: straightred on August 30, 2015, 11:30:31 PM
Quote from: Canalman on August 30, 2015, 11:28:04 PM
By the way guys, Kevin Mc double hopped the ball for his point. Amazed no one has picked up on it.
Ref's arm was raised playing an advantage so it should have been a 14yd free which i doubt would have been missed
Fair enough SR,
I'm not suggesting the ref knew BTW :) He gets off on a technicality
Quote from: Canalman on August 30, 2015, 11:28:04 PM
By the way guys, Kevin Mc double hopped the ball for his point. Amazed no one has picked up on it.
Good man-was actually doubting myself for that one.
Am not sure they win the replay or not, Mayo were very poor today and cant be as poor the next day, Dublin played good in spells. mayo will force the kickouts earlier the next day forcing a midifled battle which they be expected to win but lack of forwards will cost them, if not sat, then against Kerry
Thats 2 Gareth brooks concerts paid for. Mayo were poor but how good can they be. Dublin gave the most cynical dirty performance you could possibly see, they operated in the true Dublin tradition of dirty footballers. Nastiest defenders in the game - might give them an edge against Kerry forwards if they get to the final.
If officials / rule book dont see the cooper tackle as as a straight red, then our game has no rules.
The diving incidents were hard to watch. Cooper, Connolly ran about like loose cannons.
One of the poorest games in the championship for football but with a super last 10.
Dubs cant tackle. Mayo had a terrible game plan.
Quote from: rrhf on August 30, 2015, 11:44:10 PM
Thats 2 Gareth brooks concerts paid for. Mayo were poor but how good can they be. Dublin gave the most cynical dirty performance you could possibly seeaside from a Tyrone match, they operated in the true Dublin tradition of dirty footballers. Nastiest defenders in the game - might give them an edge against Kerry forwards if they get to the final.
If officials / rule book dont see the cooper tackle as as a straight red, then our game has no rules.
The diving incidents were hard to watch. Cooper, Connolly ran about like loose cannons.
One of the poorest games in the championship for football but with a super last 10.
Dubs cant tackle. Mayo had a terrible game plan.
Fixed that for ye chap!!
I m not sure what we were trying to do tactically. Not being too critical of H&C or Drake but not sure what exactly he was supposed to be doing. We conceded Dublin's kick-outs, but still left our markers isolated. Dublin had extra defender deep. We didn t have even a good scrambled defence. The result was Dublin got space and possession from diagonal ball in first half and handy scores from play. We had to rely on slow build up and hard won frees.
Maybe we should have just pushed up from the start?
Thought we were unusually sloppy too at times and poor decisions were made.
We defo have more room for improvement than Dub. They pretty much played/were allowed play most of this game on their merits and we played like we thought they were better than they turned out.
Dublin - despite a lack of real competition so far - hit the ground running with more intensity than we did from the start and got early breaks at both ends early.
I would be one of those hard on Hennelly. With an xtra man and a free kick out to go for the winner he kick out a crazy longish one over to Hogan Stand side. Somebody managed to rescue it but was isolated and got turned over and could have got us beaten. A bit of composure there and run the ball from back to front and who knows?
Clarke has been back training for a week and may be ready for replay.
Mayo might have a couple of changes. Certainly need more pace around Aidan. Far too isolated at times.
Connolly deserved the red. He struck, red, Keegan acted the wag, didn't strike, yellow. Imo Connolly's one of the best in the modern era but psychologically he invests too much energy in getting involved in incidents that are buck all to do with him. A very tightly wound player.
Regarding, COC. An unfortunate hit on O Carroll, but never a red imo. Nobody wants to see any player going off with their head bust and unable to rejoin the battle. OConnor isn't a rolls royce player in open play, but he's arguably Mayo's most important player and that speaks volumes for the contribution he makes game in game out.
Quote from: Welly Man on August 30, 2015, 11:34:49 PM
Brogan hit a kick in first half which looked yards wide. Thought that was why hawkeye was introduced. Awful game. Last ten was great stuff tho. The dubs seem to feel fairly aggrieved. I suppose i would too if someone unexpectantly started applyin the same rules as everyone else when id gotten away with it for years....
The last ten were ok If it had have been like that the whole way through Mayo would have won by about 20 points. Dublin were totally lost at that stage and in the last possession decided they were happy with a draw and made no effort to attack.
Mayo's Aidan O'Shea has confirmed that he was headbutted during Sunday's All-Ireland semi-final draw with Dublin - after television cameras caught the off-the-ball incident between himself and Philly McMahon.
Could be trouble ahead. Mc Mahon is a serious player. The tussle between him and O'Shea was some battle after O'Carroll had to go off early.
Quote from: Canalman on August 30, 2015, 11:28:04 PM
By the way guys, Kevin Mc double hopped the ball for his point. Amazed no one has picked up on it.
He did the same to win the famous Cluxton free in 2011 final but who's counting.
Quote from: JoG2 on August 31, 2015, 12:03:25 AM
Connolly deserved the red. He struck, red, Keegan acted the wag, didn't strike, yellow. Imo Connolly's one of the best in the modern era but psychologically he invests too much energy in getting involved in incidents that are buck all to do with him. A very tightly wound player.
Regarding, COC. An unfortunate hit on O Carroll, but never a red imo. Nobody wants to see any player going off with their head bust and unable to rejoin the battle. OConnor isn't a rolls royce player in open play, but he's arguably Mayo's most important player and that speaks volumes for the contribution he makes game in game out.
So Connolly is a proven axe murderer but COC is an innocent victim of circumstance. Serious blinkers around here tonight
Garlic football is fucked
Quote from: vallankumous on August 31, 2015, 12:08:06 AM
Quote from: Canalman on August 30, 2015, 11:28:04 PM
By the way guys, Kevin Mc double hopped the ball for his point. Amazed no one has picked up on it.
He did the same to win the famous Cluxton free in 2011 final but who's counting.
It was free in with advantage to Dublin (refs arm in the air). Should have pulled it back i think for free but either way its a point. RTE player - sunday game highlights - 14:25
Tickets for the replay are up on tickets.ie now - https://secure.tickets.ie/Listing/EventInformation/25676/gaa-all-ireland-football-championship-semi-final-replay-dublin-v-mayo-croke-park-05-September-2015
Quote from: JoG2 on August 31, 2015, 12:03:25 AM
Connolly deserved the red. He struck, red, Keegan acted the wag, didn't strike, yellow. Imo Connolly's one of the best in the modern era but psychologically he invests too much energy in getting involved in incidents that are buck all to do with him. A very tightly wound player.
Regarding, COC. An unfortunate hit on O Carroll, but never a red imo. Nobody wants to see any player going off with their head bust and unable to rejoin the battle. OConnor isn't a rolls royce player in open play, but he's arguably Mayo's most important player and that speaks volumes for the contribution he makes game in game out.
An unfortunate hit that resulted in 10 stitches for Rory. Would love to smack you on on a Saturday night out. Sure he only had to get 10 stitches after I hit him, these things happen.
Quote from: straightred on August 31, 2015, 12:27:10 AM
It was free in with advantage to Dublin (refs arm in the air). Should have pulled it back i think for free but either way its a point. RTE player - sunday game highlights - 14:25
Yeah I seen that explained earlier.
I wouldn't be too concerned about technical foul missed by a ref anyway.
Quote from: Hardy on August 30, 2015, 04:47:18 PM
Quote from: tyssam5 on August 30, 2015, 04:43:49 PM
Big O'Se went down white easily in the first half.
I've seen yellows given for that kind of thing.
(Once, ever)
Lads give it a f**king rest. You don't have to turn everything into a Tyrone whinge.
Wanting consistency in the rules is not whinging Hardy - wake up
Rules made up to apply to only some teams hurts the game.
Quote from: INDIANA on August 30, 2015, 08:45:48 PM
Cillian O Connor will be hit by a retrospective ban for the ROC incident. It's on camera by all accounts.
My apologies to Aidan O Se
Classic shite talk and BS apology.
Some amount of shite talked here tho hardly surprising, but even with that said its worth trailing through the lot of it for some hilarious comments. Indiana's bloopers are becoming compulsory reading at this point.
;D ;D ;D
Lots of nasty stuff today. As you would expect, given 2012/3, these teams really don't like each other. No doubt Cooper should have gone for his stamp in the first half, and how CoC stayed on the pitch is a bit of a mystery, elbow to RoC (really can't believe lads on here are saying it wasn't deliberate). Likewise nailed on black card for deliberate pull-down of Connolly at the end. No argument for Connolly's red, or for MDMA's black, but thought Bastic was very hard done by for his black--really can't see how there was intent there.
As far as the match goes it was a stinker but the last 10mins were great. The most well worn cliche about Mayo and their forwards losing them matches was almost proven yet again. Its strange as they seem to have some great forwards other times of the year. I mentioned previously about the quality of Mark Ronaldson but there seems to be a whole raft of reasons not to put him on.
Mayo's scoring from play is an issue but then it leads on nicely to the next problem... Dublin's defending, how could it have been so bad? Where these guys overated to begin with or where they just to keyed up? For their two corner backs at least the latter is true, they should have both got the line as they had zero intention of playing any football. It was kind of C Hughes and Paul Finlay in the q.final all over again.
The refereeing was poor again, thought both penalties were questionable, Dublin's maybe not inside and Mayo's maybe was not a foul. M D McAuley and O'Sullivan's black cards were the wrong way around, few handy frees esp for Mayo, but then Dublins tackling had been so terrible u nearly couldn't blame him there.
Havent seen a clear shot of the Connolly Keegan incident yet but if he laid a punch in he had to go. Its just a pity that he has that streak in him because he is a class footballer, his point in the first half was outstanding. Didnt notice the McMahon headbutt at the time but looks bad too, should have walked, will likely get a retrospective ban. Coopers tackle very bad, shoulda walked. COC's swinging arm was just that, an accidental collision, it was hard luck on ROC as these things happen sometimes if you caught a certain way, the skin can just split.
Despite all of that I didn't think Dublin were all that dirty, the 2 CBs were in the wrong frame of mind for the match which was disappointing and Connolly had a rush of blood to the head but apart from that the most disappointing thing that for me was where they actually appeared to be playing for the draw at the end.
Ah come on, OJ, we were a man down and lost our two most experienced midfielders to black cards. Happy to have a draw at the end there, though should have had it wrapped up long before.
It'd be interesting to know whether:
- Dublin had an active policy of preventing goals at all costs, hence the large number of fouls inside their half, or
- Dublin's defenders actually have no concept of how to tackle legally, but we've never really known this before as they're nearly always 20 points up in Leinster, and missing a tackle doesn't matter.
Either way, the Dub forwards must rattle up cricket scores during in-house games.
Disappointing game . Thought both teams went out no to lose the game rather than to try and win it. Both can say they could have/should have won it. Ref had a bad day at the office not helped by the antics of players on both sides. Mayo 5 points from play a damning indictment of their forwards. Serious lack of discipline from Dublin in getting the ball moved forward from frees but they still look much more capable of scoring than Mayo. Hard to know whether that game will bring Dublin on or not but my feeling watching it in there was we've gone backwards since last year - hope I'm wrong. Also I know he's been the best goalkeeper we've seen but I have a genuine fear that Cluxton may be near the end - not just based on his performance today but I think he's made more than a few uncharacteristic mistakes all summer. On a positive note Fenton looks like the real deal and McCaffrey and Kilkenny showed signs that they'll push on and Bernard is unmarkable given the right ball.
I'd be inclined to agree wobbler, probably a bit of both. Dublins tackling was atrocious yesterday, worse than the Fermanagh match.
Vaughan will be a loss and we missed him yesterday. Grear man to transition the ball in attack, we had no presence in the half forward line in the first half.
O'Sullivan kicking their free backwards in injury time said a lot about Dublins psyche at the time.
McMahon, wow. What a lovely man.
Surely they can upgrade Cooper's yellow to a red? I recall them doing similar to Ricey for his knees down on John McEntee in 2005, Cooper's act yesterday was disgraceful and should be a 3 or 4 match ban.
Yeah but then there was a lawyer involved and he got off did he not?
Can we not nail a few boys with discrediting the association?
A good hard battle there yesterday and a lot of stuff went on, these things happen, like they did last year between Mayo and Kerry and Tyrone and Monaghan, its knock out champo win at all costs.
Ref was out of his depth and made some poor calls for both sides.
Disappointed with Mayo crying to the media afterwards, they are no angels themselves but they have the backing of the whole country and media, and this is not being blinkered, look at all the headlines and articles in the papers today and tell me different.
Cillian o Connor should be banned for 1 year, serious injury, brutal attack. Lee Keegan should have got a straight red also. Cooper should have been shown red right in front of the ref, Philly Mc kept o Shea scoreless, that is what he was there to do and did it.
Anybody any footage of the Connolly incident? From what I saw at the time there is no way Keegan should have stayed on the pitch as he was the one who wrestled Connolly to the ground.
From seeing the COC incident, it is fairly clear that there is no case to be answered. He was trying to break free from a cheat. Nothing sickens me as much as the acceptance that we seem to have for jersey pulling and holding in our games. As previously mentioned, he was shouting and jestering towards the umpires, of course he is not going to intentionally leave a man needing 11 stitches while doing so. Some people cut easier than others, surprising the extent of the gash considering it looked like he was hit with a straight arm. O'Connor was trying to shake him off but cannot know where his face is in that incident.
Cluxton kicked out too, should be hit with a ban as it was a red card offence.
Was thinking at the time that McMahon headbutted or tried to headbutt AOS, the only thing that convinced me otherwise was the honest reaction of AOS who didn't make a meal out of it.
Yesterday again shows how flawed the rule book is when half of us don't understand where players can be for kick-outs etc. Does the rule book actually 'mean' to enforce a kick-out by the 13m line? Or is this another balls of a rule where the ambiguity allows us to interpret it in that it can simply travel 13m any direction?
As well as that, how pathetic is it that we have a system that when someone commits a violent act and due to a referee's ineptitude or simply not seeing it 100% only gets a yellow and cannot be retrospectively punished no matter how damning the video evidence is. Surely in Coopers case, yellow card or not he should face the punishment he deserves. This should be the same for all players who act the thug.
Ahra would ya gway and shite aristocrat. 1 year ban me hole.
As Indy has been saying. It's written in the stars, Mayo won't play as badly for 60 minutes again 8)
If seven people cannot control a game and accurately identify, report and decide on incidents...e.g. Penalty claims, violent conduct, black cards...then it's time to employ the Television Match Official.
Quote from: ballinaman on August 31, 2015, 09:14:21 AM
Ahra would ya gway and shite aristocrat. 1 year ban me hole.
As Indy has been saying. It's written in the stars, Mayo won't play as badly for 60 minutes again 8)
;) caused serious injury, could have been concussed with his history, put him out of the game and possibly next week.
I agree with you though, Mayo will win the replay with the whole country, the media, the GAA and the match officials all backing them. Dubs blew it and wont win the next day, too many players out of form and the best player in the country missing.
Clearly Cillian had money on Dublin and wanted to get sent off to aid Dublins cause..... how else can you explain his efforts to gain the umpires attention just before hitting O'Carroll with his forearm ?
Leinster is no prep. For dubs thats very clear ...couldnt cope under the pressure yesterday.....its strange hoe pundits didnt highlight the violence in the afternoon programme ....saving it for highlights package...hypocrisy written all over that....
One of the clearest cases of forearm gouging I've seen in a long time.
I would also like to say thanks for everyone on this forum for supporting and cheering on the Dubs yesterday, we appreciate your support and unbiased analysis.
Oh Mayo. Just when you think they can't get their fans hopes any higher only to chuck them out of the plane without a parachute . . . they are leaving the stratosphere for this one. Five point lead against Kerry going into injury time?
http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/football/john-bannon-worrying-week-ahead-for-philly-mcmahon-351110.html
That was impossible to referee.
Tomas not a fan of McQuillan going by his comments on last night's programme.
On the Cillian O'connor incident
I have no idea if he let back his arm/elbow deliberately or not.
However, I can guarantee you two things
1) If a defender had his two arms wrapped around my waist I'd let back my arm to free myself too
2) If a defender had his two arms wrapped around my waist it's fairly easy for me to know where his head is going to be! (unless he is some kind of contortionist!)
Quote from: westbound on August 31, 2015, 10:20:13 AM
On the Cillian O'connor incident
I have no idea if he let back his arm/elbow deliberately or not.
However, I can guarantee you two things
1) If a defender had his two arms wrapped around my waist I'd let back my arm to free myself too
2) If a defender had his two arms wrapped around my waist it's fairly easy for me to know where his head is going to be! (unless he is some kind of contortionist!)
Exactly it was deliberate, a one match ban will suffice.
Quote from: nrico2006 on August 31, 2015, 09:12:31 AM
Anybody any footage of the Connolly incident? From what I saw at the time there is no way Keegan should have stayed on the pitch as he was the one who wrestled Connolly to the ground.
From seeing the COC incident, it is fairly clear that there is no case to be answered. He was trying to break free from a cheat. Nothing sickens me as much as the acceptance that we seem to have for jersey pulling and holding in our games. As previously mentioned, he was shouting and jestering towards the umpires, of course he is not going to intentionally leave a man needing 11 stitches while doing so. Some people cut easier than others, surprising the extent of the gash considering it looked like he was hit with a straight arm. O'Connor was trying to shake him off but cannot know where his face is in that incident.
Cluxton kicked out too, should be hit with a ban as it was a red card offence.
Was thinking at the time that McMahon headbutted or tried to headbutt AOS, the only thing that convinced me otherwise was the honest reaction of AOS who didn't make a meal out of it.
Yesterday again shows how flawed the rule book is when half of us don't understand where players can be for kick-outs etc. Does the rule book actually 'mean' to enforce a kick-out by the 13m line? Or is this another balls of a rule where the ambiguity allows us to interpret it in that it can simply travel 13m any direction?
As well as that, how pathetic is it that we have a system that when someone commits a violent act and due to a referee's ineptitude or simply not seeing it 100% only gets a yellow and cannot be retrospectively punished no matter how damning the video evidence is. Surely in Coopers case, yellow card or not he should face the punishment he deserves. This should be the same for all players who act the thug.
You failed to mention that cluxtons kick came from what should have been a black card for ose. When you look at the blacks that were given it just shows that the ref was afraid to put the star man off.
I do think coc has a case to answer and if anything is done to anyone then his name will be in the mix. He retaliated and stuck out. Probably him, and mcmahon to get bans but i expect it will be both or neither.
Cooper should have walked but I think the rules will protect him. Keegan the same.
There'll be plenty of late night meetings this week
Quote from: straightred on August 31, 2015, 10:41:57 AM
Quote from: nrico2006 on August 31, 2015, 09:12:31 AM
Anybody any footage of the Connolly incident? From what I saw at the time there is no way Keegan should have stayed on the pitch as he was the one who wrestled Connolly to the ground.
From seeing the COC incident, it is fairly clear that there is no case to be answered. He was trying to break free from a cheat. Nothing sickens me as much as the acceptance that we seem to have for jersey pulling and holding in our games. As previously mentioned, he was shouting and jestering towards the umpires, of course he is not going to intentionally leave a man needing 11 stitches while doing so. Some people cut easier than others, surprising the extent of the gash considering it looked like he was hit with a straight arm. O'Connor was trying to shake him off but cannot know where his face is in that incident.
Cluxton kicked out too, should be hit with a ban as it was a red card offence.
Was thinking at the time that McMahon headbutted or tried to headbutt AOS, the only thing that convinced me otherwise was the honest reaction of AOS who didn't make a meal out of it.
Yesterday again shows how flawed the rule book is when half of us don't understand where players can be for kick-outs etc. Does the rule book actually 'mean' to enforce a kick-out by the 13m line? Or is this another balls of a rule where the ambiguity allows us to interpret it in that it can simply travel 13m any direction?
As well as that, how pathetic is it that we have a system that when someone commits a violent act and due to a referee's ineptitude or simply not seeing it 100% only gets a yellow and cannot be retrospectively punished no matter how damning the video evidence is. Surely in Coopers case, yellow card or not he should face the punishment he deserves. This should be the same for all players who act the thug.
You failed to mention that cluxtons kick came from what should have been a black card for ose. When you look at the blacks that were given it just shows that the ref was afraid to put the star man off.
I do think coc has a case to answer and if anything is done to anyone then his name will be in the mix. He retaliated and stuck out. Probably him, and mcmahon to get bans but i expect it will be both or neither.
Cooper should have walked but I think the rules will protect him. Keegan the same.
There'll be plenty of late night meetings this week
You are right about O'Shea, but again that is a result of the failings we have with officials. They don't like making big calls on big players most of the time, they don't like awarding penalties and if they give one you will be lucky to get another and they also don't like dishing out red cards etc early on. Referees should be impartial and not have their decisions influenced by where an offence happens (i.e. to get a penalty it seems that the foul threshold is higher than the free threshold out the pitch, when it shouldn't), who is involved, when it happens or by how many other big calls have already been made. I can't see this being changed anytime soon. Are umpires still just 'friends of the ref'? If so, this really needs to be stopped as it just seems so unprofessional. It beggers belief some of the calls that are/are not made by umpires on a game by game basis. It just seems like most of them are some oul boys who were dragged from the bar.
Re Cooper. Past experience has shown that if the media make enough fuss about an incident a ban could be applied, even if a yellow card was given at the time.
According to the RTE commentators it was only a knock, and its unlikely that the Dublin media will start the bandwagon a la McCann.
Umpires cannot make 'calls', other than wides, 45s or scores. An Umpire can't give a penalty.
Quote from: The Aristocrat on August 31, 2015, 10:22:18 AM
Quote from: westbound on August 31, 2015, 10:20:13 AM
On the Cillian O'connor incident
I have no idea if he let back his arm/elbow deliberately or not.
However, I can guarantee you two things
1) If a defender had his two arms wrapped around my waist I'd let back my arm to free myself too
2) If a defender had his two arms wrapped around my waist it's fairly easy for me to know where his head is going to be! (unless he is some kind of contortionist!)
Exactly it was deliberate, a one match ban will suffice.
Please explain why he would hit someone in the face (with his forearm) having waved his arms to get the umpires attention a half a second beforehand ....was he trying to get their attention so they could see him 'hitting' O'Carroll ?
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on August 30, 2015, 10:43:14 PM
Cooper got a yellow for his crude tackle/jump so that's incident dealt with, i dont think they can come back to it and upgrade the card or can they, as they can downgrade cards given so surely the same works vice verse?
It's not soccer lads, none of that shite
GAA, they do what they want!
When do the cccc meet buckos surely not Thursday ?
Quote from: squire_in_navy_slacks on August 31, 2015, 11:10:36 AM
When do the cccc meet buckos surely not Thursday ?
Ara whenever they get around to it, sure what's the rush. Unless the Sunday Game tell them they have to jump to it of course.
Quote from: StephenC on August 31, 2015, 09:46:06 AM
One of the clearest cases of forearm gouging I've seen in a long time.
I laughed.
No mention of the mayo penalty, which was soft until you see McMahon throwing two digs into Boyler while he's on the ground.
The good thing about all this is that Tyrone now look like a group of choirboys.
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on August 31, 2015, 11:17:42 AM
Quote from: StephenC on August 31, 2015, 09:46:06 AM
One of the clearest cases of forearm gouging I've seen in a long time.
I laughed.
No mention of the mayo penalty, which was soft until you see McMahon throwing two digs into Boyler while he's on the ground.
Connolly is going to get off because of the Kevin Keane incident so O Connor will probably get away with it
Gaa were really silly to rescind Keanes red because they've opened the floodgates now
Quote from: INDIANA on August 31, 2015, 11:49:51 AM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on August 31, 2015, 11:17:42 AM
Quote from: StephenC on August 31, 2015, 09:46:06 AM
One of the clearest cases of forearm gouging I've seen in a long time.
I laughed.
No mention of the mayo penalty, which was soft until you see McMahon throwing two digs into Boyler while he's on the ground.
Connolly is going to get off because of the Kevin Keane incident so O Connor will probably get away with it
Gaa were really silly to rescind Keanes red because they've opened the floodgates now
The GAA disciplinary process is a mess. Tiernan McCann was the nadir, but as you say the Keane incident may have bigger repercussions. Whatever happened to just taking your suspension? If Connolly gets off, it's another mess, but I wouldn't be surprised.
As I said, I'll be shocked if COC is banned.
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 31, 2015, 11:51:35 AM
Quote from: INDIANA on August 31, 2015, 11:49:51 AM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on August 31, 2015, 11:17:42 AM
Quote from: StephenC on August 31, 2015, 09:46:06 AM
One of the clearest cases of forearm gouging I've seen in a long time.
I laughed.
No mention of the mayo penalty, which was soft until you see McMahon throwing two digs into Boyler while he's on the ground.
Connolly is going to get off because of the Kevin Keane incident so O Connor will probably get away with it
Gaa were really silly to rescind Keanes red because they've opened the floodgates now
The GAA disciplinary process is a mess. Tiernan McCann was the nadir, but as you say the Keane incident may have bigger repercussions. Whatever happened to just taking your suspension? If Connolly gets off, it's another mess, but I wouldn't be surprised.
As I said, I'll be shocked if COC is banned.
Connolly not being available tips it in mayos favour. As said previously Mayo decided to play the roulette table in getting Keane off who doesn't even start for them . And it's going to bite them in the ass now
Look having reviewed the game Az . Kerry are the real winners. Neither side will beat Kerry
I don't think you can say that to be honest. Each game has a life of its own, and while I would worry about either full back line against Kerry, I think the power in the attack will have Kerry in bother when they go straight at them.
I'm still saying the winner of this beats Kerry, but yeah, I have to say I was less sure while watching it yesterday.
Not sure how the Keane and Connolly incidents are related?
Keane got off so everyone does?
On the O'Connor incident it's worth noting the Conor McGovern incident from the Derry v Down game earlier in the year. . . it was almost identical only it was seen by umpires who advised the referee he struck and got a red card.
McGovern did not get his red card overturned!!
Quote from: screenexile on August 31, 2015, 12:05:19 PM
On the O'Connor incident it's worth noting the Conor McGovern incident from the Derry v Down game earlier in the year. . . it was almost identical only it was seen by umpires who advised the referee he struck and got a red card.
McGovern did not get his red card overturned!!
I don't remember that one. The one thing that's standing out to me regarding whether he deserved a red card/suspension is that it wasn't really a thrown elbow. He flailed around, and he may well (did) know the defender was there, but he couldn't have known he was going to hit him with his elbow. He never looked back, and didn't bend his arm or 'throw' the elbow. It looked to me like he wanted the ref/umpire to see he was being held and was throwing his arms around to draw attention to it.
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on August 31, 2015, 12:04:34 PM
Not sure how the Keane and Connolly incidents are related?
Keane got off so everyone does?
He got off because it was claimed he slapped rather then struck . I'm reliably informed the GAA have opened a minefield on this inadvertently and Dublin expect him to be cleared. Their is no distinction in the rule book for that and how the GAA overturned Keanes red on that basis has the legal profession laughing at them
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 31, 2015, 12:01:45 PM
I don't think you can say that to be honest. Each game has a life of its own, and while I would worry about either full back line against Kerry, I think the power in the attack will have Kerry in bother when they go straight at them.
I'm still saying the winner of this beats Kerry, but yeah, I have to say I was less sure while watching it yesterday.
The winners of the replay should be in a strong position. I think it'll stand to them in the final.
Will Mayo draw on last years replay loss? It would be a very hard way to lose again.
Does anyone know why Keane got off? Did they miss spell his name or something similar in the match report?
Another full house or clever marketing by Gaa ticket office ?
No attendance given yesterday ?. Bumper weekend for gaa.
Quote from: Stall the Bailer on August 31, 2015, 12:20:44 PM
Does anyone know why Keane got off? Did they miss spell his name or something similar in the match report?
As above. Mayo claimed he hit Murphy a "slap" instead which isn't a "strike".
If Tyrone had played like Dublin yesterday there would have been a massive media backlash in the South focusing on their cynical play. I look forward to listening to off the ball to see if Parkinson is as outraged by the Dubs.
Quote from: Mario on August 31, 2015, 12:24:54 PM
If Tyrone had played like Dublin yesterday there would have been a massive media backlash in the South focusing on their cynical play. I look forward to listening to off the ball to see if Parkinson is as outraged by the Dubs.
Dubs and Mayo you mean.
Anyway, lets hope justice is done and O Connor misses the replay.
I hope there's no backlash. Two wrongs and all that. THe attacks on Tyrone should not set the bar for sport journalism.
Quote from: The Aristocrat on August 31, 2015, 12:29:35 PM
Quote from: Mario on August 31, 2015, 12:24:54 PM
If Tyrone had played like Dublin yesterday there would have been a massive media backlash in the South focusing on their cynical play. I look forward to listening to off the ball to see if Parkinson is as outraged by the Dubs.
Dubs and Mayo you mean.
Anyway, lets hope justice is done and O Connor misses the replay.
So on your rationale out for Mayo go O'Connor
And out for Dublin so should go Cluxton, McMahon, Cooper, O'Sullivan, Connolly,
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Quote from: Stall the Bailer on August 31, 2015, 12:20:44 PM
Does anyone know why Keane got off? Did they miss spell his name or something similar in the match report?
As above. Mayo claimed he hit Murphy a "slap" instead which isn't a "strike".
Is slapping still not striking with the hand? Hard to believe this was the reason he got off.
Quote from: Nihilist on August 31, 2015, 12:35:30 PM
Quote from: The Aristocrat on August 31, 2015, 12:29:35 PM
Quote from: Mario on August 31, 2015, 12:24:54 PM
If Tyrone had played like Dublin yesterday there would have been a massive media backlash in the South focusing on their cynical play. I look forward to listening to off the ball to see if Parkinson is as outraged by the Dubs.
Dubs and Mayo you mean.
Anyway, lets hope justice is done and O Connor misses the replay.
So on your rationale out for Mayo go O'Connor
And out for Dublin so should go Cluxton, McMahon, Cooper, O'Sullivan, Connolly,
The only serious and dangerous injury was O Connor on O' Carroll, the others were dangerous but no one got seriously injured, O Connor put O Carroll in hospital with 10 stiches and could have ended his season if he doesn't play next week and Dubs lose, a dangerous and wild strike back, one match ban.
Cooper very lucky not be shown red as was Lee Keegan and maybe a couple of others but O Connors was wild.
Quote from: Nihilist on August 31, 2015, 12:35:30 PM
Quote from: The Aristocrat on August 31, 2015, 12:29:35 PM
Quote from: Mario on August 31, 2015, 12:24:54 PM
If Tyrone had played like Dublin yesterday there would have been a massive media backlash in the South focusing on their cynical play. I look forward to listening to off the ball to see if Parkinson is as outraged by the Dubs.
Dubs and Mayo you mean.
Anyway, lets hope justice is done and O Connor misses the replay.
So on your rationale out for Mayo go O'Connor
And out for Dublin so should go Cluxton, McMahon, Cooper, O'Sullivan, Connolly,
Yep, the notion that Dublin "go after" Cillian O'Connor is flimsy given that they'd have much more to lose if a full scale fingering pointing and suspension fest broke out.
Dublin will probably confine it to trying to get Connolly off the hook and leave it at that. Though a couple of Dublin guys in work had a good view of it and reckoned Connolly buried Keegan good and proper with a punch and will do well to beat the charge.
Quote from: Bord na Mona man on August 31, 2015, 12:47:09 PM
Quote from: Nihilist on August 31, 2015, 12:35:30 PM
Quote from: The Aristocrat on August 31, 2015, 12:29:35 PM
Quote from: Mario on August 31, 2015, 12:24:54 PM
If Tyrone had played like Dublin yesterday there would have been a massive media backlash in the South focusing on their cynical play. I look forward to listening to off the ball to see if Parkinson is as outraged by the Dubs.
Dubs and Mayo you mean.
Anyway, lets hope justice is done and O Connor misses the replay.
So on your rationale out for Mayo go O'Connor
And out for Dublin so should go Cluxton, McMahon, Cooper, O'Sullivan, Connolly,
Yep, the notion that Dublin "go after" Cillian O'Connor is flimsy given that they'd have much more to lose if a full scale fingering pointing and suspension fest broke out.
Dublin will probably confine it to trying to get Connolly off the hook and leave it at that. Though a couple of Dublin guys in work had a good view of it and reckoned Connolly buried Keegan good and proper with a punch and will do well to beat the charge.
Connolly was attacked while trying to play the game, dragged to the ground, he then got the better of Keegan, both finally got up and unluckily the linesman see a strike action by Connolly but Keegan was also hitting out, seen it clearly, doesn't come across on the T.V. Two yellows would have sufficed or a red to both, not yellow and red, a terrible error and bias decision from the officials. Connolly got no protection all game, was targeted.
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Not sure how the Keane and Connolly incidents are related?
Keane got off so everyone does?
You either enforce the rule properly or not at all. Unfair and illegal to suspend one player and not the other for purported "striking". Keane incident set a precedent which imo means DC will get off.
Oh and if Mayo are aggrieved, then I am sure the mention of Lee Keegan and last years semi finals will appease them. :)
Expect a whole heap of work done on the disciplinary side in the GAA over the winter to clear the mess up.
I suspect both Connolly and O'Connor will be free to play next Saturday, and in many respects it will be natural justice for both. Neither party was the initial aggressor in the incidents in question, and suffered as a result of poor officiating from linesmen and umpires who should be drawing the referees attention to what goes on prior to these cases.
If the lightbulb comes on in HQ about dealing with the type of the off-the-ball stuff yesterday it might be a rule change at congress on how umpires are selected, and the powers that they have and other officials have - including the fourth official who seems to be nothing more than a match day civil servant.
I wouldn't condone throwing a punch like Connolly did yesterday, but given McQuillan consulted with his linesman who must clearly have seen the punch, it beggars belief how Keegan escaped without a black card for his part in it.
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Quote from: Bord na Mona man on August 31, 2015, 12:47:09 PM
Quote from: Nihilist on August 31, 2015, 12:35:30 PM
Quote from: The Aristocrat on August 31, 2015, 12:29:35 PM
Quote from: Mario on August 31, 2015, 12:24:54 PM
If Tyrone had played like Dublin yesterday there would have been a massive media backlash in the South focusing on their cynical play. I look forward to listening to off the ball to see if Parkinson is as outraged by the Dubs.
Dubs and Mayo you mean.
Anyway, lets hope justice is done and O Connor misses the replay.
So on your rationale out for Mayo go O'Connor
And out for Dublin so should go Cluxton, McMahon, Cooper, O'Sullivan, Connolly,
Yep, the notion that Dublin "go after" Cillian O'Connor is flimsy given that they'd have much more to lose if a full scale fingering pointing and suspension fest broke out.
Dublin will probably confine it to trying to get Connolly off the hook and leave it at that. Though a couple of Dublin guys in work had a good view of it and reckoned Connolly buried Keegan good and proper with a punch and will do well to beat the charge.
Connolly was attacked while trying to play the game, dragged to the ground, he then got the better of Keegan, both finally got up and unluckily the linesman see a strike action by Connolly but Keegan was also hitting out, seen it clearly, doesn't come across on the T.V. Two yellows would have sufficed or a red to both, not yellow and red, a terrible error and bias decision from the officials. Connolly got no protection all game, was targeted.
Exactly my view on the Connolly incident too.
As i say previously the O`Connor incident wasn't even a free, Connolly suspension will stand, Coopers has already been dealt with with a yellow. If McMahon gets off after all his carry on the GAA a mess. Its a pitch your manger didn't want to chase up the broken jaw incident in the Armagh game saying your so concerned with a man getting 10stitches in a accidental collision/
Quote from: The Aristocrat on August 31, 2015, 12:46:33 PM
The only serious and dangerous injury was O Connor on O' Carroll, the others were dangerous but no one got seriously injured, O Connor put O Carroll in hospital with 10 stiches and could have ended his season if he doesn't play next week and Dubs lose, a dangerous and wild strike back, one match ban.
That isn't how it works and nor should it be. I could spit a mouthful of green phlegm in someone's face and there would be zero injury, that should hardly put me on easy street when justice is being dispensed. Acts should be also judged by their intent rather than simply by their outcome.
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on August 31, 2015, 01:05:36 PM
As i say previously the O`Connor incident wasn't even a free, Connolly suspension will stand, Coopers has already been dealt with with a yellow. If McMahon gets off after all his carry on the GAA a mess. Its a pitch your manger didn't want to chase up the broken jaw incident in the Armagh game saying your so concerned with a man getting 10stitches in a accidental collision/
Meh, wild strike back. Exactly, Dublin don't cry to the media like the Mayo players and management. Very disappointed in Mayo for doing this. Poor Aiden, that Philly fella is awfully rough isn't he. You ok Aiden, head butt was it, yeah it was there ye know, there wasn't even contact Aidan.
In my opinion O Connors act was wild and dangerous.
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The only serious and dangerous injury was O Connor on O' Carroll, the others were dangerous but no one got seriously injured, O Connor put O Carroll in hospital with 10 stiches and could have ended his season if he doesn't play next week and Dubs lose, a dangerous and wild strike back, one match ban.
Cooper very lucky not be shown red as was Lee Keegan and maybe a couple of others but O Connors was wild.
So McMahons headbutt wasn't serious or dangerous?
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The only serious and dangerous injury was O Connor on O' Carroll, the others were dangerous but no one got seriously injured, O Connor put O Carroll in hospital with 10 stiches and could have ended his season if he doesn't play next week and Dubs lose, a dangerous and wild strike back, one match ban.
Cooper very lucky not be shown red as was Lee Keegan and maybe a couple of others but O Connors was wild.
So McMahons headbutt wasn't serious or dangerous?
Let ye have sense and not be heedin his bullshit ;D
Don't see much of an outcry in the Irish Times or Examiner today asking managers for apologies or players heads on plates like they did for Tyrone's young McCann. No demands either for players to be suspended. Whatever happened to bringing the game into disrepute? Ah I must have been dreaming over the last few weeks - Double standards or what👍
I do not see how the extent of an injury can determine if a ban should be received or not. I do not think O'Connor should get suspended - just as i think the Derry player should not have been sent off against Down. It may not be PC but in many respects if a player is acting the prat - like ROC or Keegan - i can understand why his opponent may react. If ROC and Keegan had have played within the rules themselves they would not have got caught - although it is 50:50 if O'Connor meant it or not.
For me the two incidents that deserve greater ridicule are the Cooper and McMahon incidents.
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on August 31, 2015, 01:05:36 PM
As i say previously the O`Connor incident wasn't even a free, Connolly suspension will stand, Coopers has already been dealt with with a yellow. If McMahon gets off after all his carry on the GAA a mess. Its a pitch your manger didn't want to chase up the broken jaw incident in the Armagh game saying your so concerned with a man getting 10stitches in a accidental collision/
Connolly will get off.
Quote from: Nihilist on August 31, 2015, 01:14:17 PM
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The only serious and dangerous injury was O Connor on O' Carroll, the others were dangerous but no one got seriously injured, O Connor put O Carroll in hospital with 10 stiches and could have ended his season if he doesn't play next week and Dubs lose, a dangerous and wild strike back, one match ban.
Cooper very lucky not be shown red as was Lee Keegan and maybe a couple of others but O Connors was wild.
So McMahons headbutt wasn't serious or dangerous?
Didn't see it! I was too busy watching Lee Keegan sledging Connolly all game, but heard there was no real contact. Philly did a great job man marking the best player in the country they call superman out of the game, a job well done.
I understand lads your hate for Dublin, I do, but come off it.
You will have your Mayo win next week with the GAA, the media, the officials and all 31 other counties cheering them on and influencing the game.
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The only serious and dangerous injury was O Connor on O' Carroll, the others were dangerous but no one got seriously injured, O Connor put O Carroll in hospital with 10 stiches and could have ended his season if he doesn't play next week and Dubs lose, a dangerous and wild strike back, one match ban.
Cooper very lucky not be shown red as was Lee Keegan and maybe a couple of others but O Connors was wild.
So McMahons headbutt wasn't serious or dangerous?
Didn't see it! I was too busy watching Lee Keegan sledging Connolly all game, but heard there was no real contact. Philly did a great job man marking the best player in the country they call superman out of the game, a job well done.
I understand lads your hate for Dublin, I do, but come off it.
You will have your Mayo win next week with the GAA, the media, the officials and all 31 other counties cheering them on and influencing the game.
You are getting paranoid if you think everyone hates Dublin. Tyrone on the other hand.... ;)
Quote from: The Aristocrat on August 31, 2015, 12:46:33 PM
Quote from: Nihilist on August 31, 2015, 12:35:30 PM
Quote from: The Aristocrat on August 31, 2015, 12:29:35 PM
Quote from: Mario on August 31, 2015, 12:24:54 PM
If Tyrone had played like Dublin yesterday there would have been a massive media backlash in the South focusing on their cynical play. I look forward to listening to off the ball to see if Parkinson is as outraged by the Dubs.
Dubs and Mayo you mean.
Anyway, lets hope justice is done and O Connor misses the replay.
So on your rationale out for Mayo go O'Connor
And out for Dublin so should go Cluxton, McMahon, Cooper, O'Sullivan, Connolly,
The only serious and dangerous injury was O Connor on O' Carroll, the others were dangerous but no one got seriously injured, O Connor put O Carroll in hospital with 10 stiches and could have ended his season if he doesn't play next week and Dubs lose, a dangerous and wild strike back, one match ban.
Cooper very lucky not be shown red as was Lee Keegan and maybe a couple of others but O Connors was wild.
Based on the serious injury rule all Dubs will be banned from the Hill next Saturday. Lot of Mayo supporters claiming to have contracted Hep C yesterday.
I'm not sure if anyone has mentioned it. If you do a search on facebook for "Aodán Ó Lorcáin" you'll see the first video on his wall is one of Connolly and Keegan. I don't have a direct url for it as I'm looking at it on a phone.
It looks like Connolly initiates contact first before Keegan turns to confront him and they end up wrestling to the ground. Connolly eventually throws a clear punch and this will be what nails him.
I can't see how the Killian Keane defence will get him off.
Anywhere I can see the match again? Missed it due to club game yesterday and missed The Sunday Game last night too. Thanks.
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Quote from: The Aristocrat on August 31, 2015, 12:46:33 PM
Quote from: Nihilist on August 31, 2015, 12:35:30 PM
Quote from: The Aristocrat on August 31, 2015, 12:29:35 PM
Quote from: Mario on August 31, 2015, 12:24:54 PM
If Tyrone had played like Dublin yesterday there would have been a massive media backlash in the South focusing on their cynical play. I look forward to listening to off the ball to see if Parkinson is as outraged by the Dubs.
Dubs and Mayo you mean.
Anyway, lets hope justice is done and O Connor misses the replay.
So on your rationale out for Mayo go O'Connor
And out for Dublin so should go Cluxton, McMahon, Cooper, O'Sullivan, Connolly,
The only serious and dangerous injury was O Connor on O' Carroll, the others were dangerous but no one got seriously injured, O Connor put O Carroll in hospital with 10 stiches and could have ended his season if he doesn't play next week and Dubs lose, a dangerous and wild strike back, one match ban.
Cooper very lucky not be shown red as was Lee Keegan and maybe a couple of others but O Connors was wild.
Based on the serious injury rule all Dubs will be banned from the Hill next Saturday. Lot of Mayo supporters claiming to have contracted Hep C yesterday.
I'm surprised considering how many itinerants live in Mayo Mike
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The only serious and dangerous injury was O Connor on O' Carroll, the others were dangerous but no one got seriously injured, O Connor put O Carroll in hospital with 10 stiches and could have ended his season if he doesn't play next week and Dubs lose, a dangerous and wild strike back, one match ban.
Cooper very lucky not be shown red as was Lee Keegan and maybe a couple of others but O Connors was wild.
So McMahons headbutt wasn't serious or dangerous?
Didn't see it! I was too busy watching Lee Keegan sledging Connolly all game, but heard there was no real contact. Philly did a great job man marking the best player in the country they call superman out of the game, a job well done.
I understand lads your hate for Dublin, I do, but come off it.
You will have your Mayo win next week with the GAA, the media, the officials and all 31 other counties cheering them on and influencing the game.
You didn't see it. Its in the nationals and online.
anyway here you go. What's your feedback?
http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/football/watch-aidan-oshea-claims-he-was-headbutted-351123.html
Also, whats your thoughts on the McMahon dive to get O'Shea sent off ? I can get that on video for you as well if you want.
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The only serious and dangerous injury was O Connor on O' Carroll, the others were dangerous but no one got seriously injured, O Connor put O Carroll in hospital with 10 stiches and could have ended his season if he doesn't play next week and Dubs lose, a dangerous and wild strike back, one match ban.
Cooper very lucky not be shown red as was Lee Keegan and maybe a couple of others but O Connors was wild.
So McMahons headbutt wasn't serious or dangerous?
Didn't see it! I was too busy watching Lee Keegan sledging Connolly all game, but heard there was no real contact. Philly did a great job man marking the best player in the country they call superman out of the game, a job well done.
I understand lads your hate for Dublin, I do, but come off it.
You will have your Mayo win next week with the GAA, the media, the officials and all 31 other counties cheering them on and influencing the game.
You didn't see it. Its in the nationals and online.
anyway here you go. What's your feedback?
http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/football/watch-aidan-oshea-claims-he-was-headbutted-351123.html
Also, whats your thoughts on the McMahon dive to get O'Shea sent off ? I can get that on video for you as well if you want.
If mc Mahon is banned so will O Connor.
You'd want to start listening to me lads . If video evidence is used against Dublin it will be responded to.
You sound like Al Qaeda :)
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The only serious and dangerous injury was O Connor on O' Carroll, the others were dangerous but no one got seriously injured, O Connor put O Carroll in hospital with 10 stiches and could have ended his season if he doesn't play next week and Dubs lose, a dangerous and wild strike back, one match ban.
Cooper very lucky not be shown red as was Lee Keegan and maybe a couple of others but O Connors was wild.
So McMahons headbutt wasn't serious or dangerous?
Didn't see it! I was too busy watching Lee Keegan sledging Connolly all game, but heard there was no real contact. Philly did a great job man marking the best player in the country they call superman out of the game, a job well done.
I understand lads your hate for Dublin, I do, but come off it.
You will have your Mayo win next week with the GAA, the media, the officials and all 31 other counties cheering them on and influencing the game.
You didn't see it. Its in the nationals and online.
anyway here you go. What's your feedback?
http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/football/watch-aidan-oshea-claims-he-was-headbutted-351123.html
Also, whats your thoughts on the McMahon dive to get O'Shea sent off ? I can get that on video for you as well if you want.
Wasn't a dive. O'Shea caught him.
How many stitches was it again?
Indiana and The Aristocrat giving great entertainment today - gas men or completely deluded, funny either way.
Serious question Indiana and not having having a go just interested how come you appear to have it on great authority about Dublin pursuing the O'Connor thing? Genuine question.
Jesus lads, if someone is holding you or trying to manhandle you then you are allowed to try and break free, and to do that usually involves trying to fling your arms back to get out. For anybody here to say COC should be banned shows simply that they are either seriously biased or completely flipping dumb. O'Carrol's skin must be made of wax, he makes John Duddy's skin look durable.
Quote from: laoislad on August 31, 2015, 01:57:15 PM
How many stitches was it again?
It's down to 10 now.
One of them was only a cross stitch, so the Dubious Stitch Committee downgraded it.
Dublin are expected to appeal this though.
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Quote from: laoislad on August 31, 2015, 01:57:15 PM
How many stitches was it again?
It's down to 10 now.
One of them was only a cross stitch, so the Dubious Stitch Committee downgraded it.
Dublin are expected to appeal this though.
Sure a real man would have just played on...
(http://www.gaa.ie/content/images/news/kilkenny/WalshTommy_Stitches.jpg)
A staple gun. Hardy fecker.
O'Connor seemed wired to the moon yesterday. Every time there was a free against a Dublin player he seemed to be straight over red faced, roaring at the ref or the linesmen appealing for cards to be dished out. Just thought it was out of character as he's usually fairly mild mannered during most games.
Suture thread running at an all time low in Dublin today.
Dublin fans have to be scratching their heads at the fouling. Very unlike their team who excel at putting pressure on up high and creating turn-overs.
For all the talk of Mayo's need to push up on Cluxton's kick-outs, they showed us a new way yesterday; conceding so many short and then working like demons to create turnovers. Maybe McStay was right last night that it was an approach that conserved energy.
Though Keith Higgins really stepped up when Mayo needed him. Drove forward and took a leaders point.
Hennelly did all right. Theirs not much between him and Clarke but I'd leave him there for next weekend.
Bernard Brogan is (quietly) having a brilliant season. His point where he did the little cross-over dribble was sublime. After a relatively quiet year last year, it's great to see him back at his best.
Aidan O'Se is so dominant under the high ball. If Mayo work on nothing else this week, they have to improve the quality of the balls going into him. The big ballooning kicks play straight into the defenses hands.
For all the moaning and pearl-clutching that's going on, it's important to acknowledge that we'll all be glued to the TV next Saturday.
Best of luck to both teams in the replay.
Quote from: StephenC on August 31, 2015, 02:16:50 PM
Suture thread running at an all time low in Dublin today.
Dublin fans have to be scratching their heads at the fouling. Very unlike their team who excel at putting pressure on up high and creating turn-overs.
For all the talk of Mayo's need to push up on Cluxton's kick-outs, they showed us a new way yesterday; conceding so many short and then working like demons to create turnovers. Maybe McStay was right last night that it was an approach that conserved energy.
Though Keith Higgins really stepped up when Mayo needed him. Drove forward and took a leaders point.
Hennelly did all right. Theirs not much between him and Clarke but I'd leave him there for next weekend.
Bernard Brogan is (quietly) having a brilliant season. His point where he did the little cross-over dribble was sublime. After a relatively quiet year last year, it's great to see him back at his best.
Aidan O'Se is so dominant under the high ball. If Mayo work on nothing else this week, they have to improve the quality of the balls going into him. The big ballooning kicks play straight into the defenses hands.
For all the moaning and pearl-clutching that's going on, it's important to acknowledge that we'll all be glued to the TV next Saturday.
Best of luck to both teams in the replay.
And get someone close to him... It's criminal to pump it in, have him win it, and have no once coming off his shoulder. That's just too heavy a load for one man. Andy Moran, when he came on, did a lot of bad things, but he would get close to O'Shea and have a bit of a poachers instinct.
Even though it wasn't a great game the appetite amongst the fans for the replay hasn't been diminished. Public allocation sold out
QuoteThe GAA can confirm that there will be no more public sales of tickets for Saturday's GAA Football All-Ireland Senior Championship Semi-Final replay between Dublin and Mayo with the remaining tickets available through the competing counties.
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Suture thread running at an all time low in Dublin today.
Dublin fans have to be scratching their heads at the fouling. Very unlike their team who excel at putting pressure on up high and creating turn-overs.
For all the talk of Mayo's need to push up on Cluxton's kick-outs, they showed us a new way yesterday; conceding so many short and then working like demons to create turnovers. Maybe McStay was right last night that it was an approach that conserved energy.
Though Keith Higgins really stepped up when Mayo needed him. Drove forward and took a leaders point.
Hennelly did all right. Theirs not much between him and Clarke but I'd leave him there for next weekend.
Bernard Brogan is (quietly) having a brilliant season. His point where he did the little cross-over dribble was sublime. After a relatively quiet year last year, it's great to see him back at his best.
Aidan O'Se is so dominant under the high ball. If Mayo work on nothing else this week, they have to improve the quality of the balls going into him. The big ballooning kicks play straight into the defenses hands.
For all the moaning and pearl-clutching that's going on, it's important to acknowledge that we'll all be glued to the TV next Saturday.
Best of luck to both teams in the replay.
And get someone close to him... It's criminal to pump it in, have him win it, and have no once coming off his shoulder. That's just too heavy a load for one man. Andy Moran, when he came on, did a lot of bad things, but he would get close to O'Shea and have a bit of a poachers instinct.
True. Was as if they were all sitting back waiting for him to do it on his own. But it must have been the plan as there appeared to be no adjustment to the forward position from the sideline.
Moran is a smart lad. I was very impressed by his interviews after the game (on radio). He game honest answers and is obviously a thoughtful man. Refreshing.
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on August 31, 2015, 02:13:43 PM
O'Connor seemed wired to the moon yesterday. Every time there was a free against a Dublin player he seemed to be straight over red faced, roaring at the ref or the linesmen appealing for cards to be dished out. Just thought it was out of character as he's usually fairly mild mannered during most games.
Constantly at it. Threw a dig into connolly too on the ground and chief architect in getting him sent off.
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Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on August 31, 2015, 02:13:43 PM
O'Connor seemed wired to the moon yesterday. Every time there was a free against a Dublin player he seemed to be straight over red faced, roaring at the ref or the linesmen appealing for cards to be dished out. Just thought it was out of character as he's usually fairly mild mannered during most games.
Constantly at it. Threw a dig into connolly too on the ground and chief architect in getting him sent off.
He did not throw a dig, he separated Connolly and Keegan, because Connolly was trying to beat the shoite into him, Anger management obviously not workin
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Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on August 31, 2015, 02:13:43 PM
O'Connor seemed wired to the moon yesterday. Every time there was a free against a Dublin player he seemed to be straight over red faced, roaring at the ref or the linesmen appealing for cards to be dished out. Just thought it was out of character as he's usually fairly mild mannered during most games.
Constantly at it. Threw a dig into connolly too on the ground and chief architect in getting him sent off.
He did not throw a dig, he separated Connolly and Keegan, because Connolly was trying to beat the shoite into him, Anger management obviously not workin
He threw a dig. Watch the video
I watched the video. He did not throw a dig.
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O'Connor seemed wired to the moon yesterday. Every time there was a free against a Dublin player he seemed to be straight over red faced, roaring at the ref or the linesmen appealing for cards to be dished out. Just thought it was out of character as he's usually fairly mild mannered during most games.
Constantly at it. Threw a dig into connolly too on the ground and chief architect in getting him sent off.
He did not throw a dig, he separated Connolly and Keegan, because Connolly was trying to beat the shoite into him, Anger management obviously not workin
He threw a dig. Watch the video
I did
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 31, 2015, 02:34:13 PM
I watched the video. He did not throw a dig.
I did too, and I agree with you
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O'Connor seemed wired to the moon yesterday. Every time there was a free against a Dublin player he seemed to be straight over red faced, roaring at the ref or the linesmen appealing for cards to be dished out. Just thought it was out of character as he's usually fairly mild mannered during most games.
Constantly at it. Threw a dig into connolly too on the ground and chief architect in getting him sent off.
He did not throw a dig, he separated Connolly and Keegan, because Connolly was trying to beat the shoite into him, Anger management obviously not workin
He threw a dig. Watch the video
How many stitches did it cause?
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The only serious and dangerous injury was O Connor on O' Carroll, the others were dangerous but no one got seriously injured, O Connor put O Carroll in hospital with 10 stiches and could have ended his season if he doesn't play next week and Dubs lose, a dangerous and wild strike back, one match ban.
Cooper very lucky not be shown red as was Lee Keegan and maybe a couple of others but O Connors was wild.
So McMahons headbutt wasn't serious or dangerous?
Didn't see it! I was too busy watching Lee Keegan sledging Connolly all game, but heard there was no real contact. Philly did a great job man marking the best player in the country they call superman out of the game, a job well done.
I understand lads your hate for Dublin, I do, but come off it.
You will have your Mayo win next week with the GAA, the media, the officials and all 31 other counties cheering them on and influencing the game.
You didn't see it. Its in the nationals and online.
anyway here you go. What's your feedback?
http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/football/watch-aidan-oshea-claims-he-was-headbutted-351123.html
Also, whats your thoughts on the McMahon dive to get O'Shea sent off ? I can get that on video for you as well if you want.
Wasn't a dive. O'Shea caught him.
I'll have whatever Jell O Biofra's having! Are you alright in the head ? Watch the replay very carefully, maybe rewind it a few times in slow-mo, and come back here and tell me it wasn't a feigned injury/dive? If there was "contact" it definitely wasn't to McMahon's face or head. The manner in which he lay down after time-wasting was ridiculous, right in front of McQuillan as well, not that he would have saw it even if he was caught slap bang in the middle of it.
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The only serious and dangerous injury was O Connor on O' Carroll, the others were dangerous but no one got seriously injured, O Connor put O Carroll in hospital with 10 stiches and could have ended his season if he doesn't play next week and Dubs lose, a dangerous and wild strike back, one match ban.
Cooper very lucky not be shown red as was Lee Keegan and maybe a couple of others but O Connors was wild.
So McMahons headbutt wasn't serious or dangerous?
Didn't see it! I was too busy watching Lee Keegan sledging Connolly all game, but heard there was no real contact. Philly did a great job man marking the best player in the country they call superman out of the game, a job well done.
I understand lads your hate for Dublin, I do, but come off it.
You will have your Mayo win next week with the GAA, the media, the officials and all 31 other counties cheering them on and influencing the game.
You didn't see it. Its in the nationals and online.
anyway here you go. What's your feedback?
http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/football/watch-aidan-oshea-claims-he-was-headbutted-351123.html
Also, whats your thoughts on the McMahon dive to get O'Shea sent off ? I can get that on video for you as well if you want.
Wasn't a dive. O'Shea caught him.
I'll have whatever Jell O Biofra's having! Are you alright in the head ? Watch the replay very carefully, maybe rewind it a few times in slow-mo, and come back here and tell me it wasn't a feigned injury/dive? If there was "contact" it definitely wasn't to McMahon's face or head. The manner in which he lay down after time-wasting was ridiculous, right in front of McQuillan as well, not that he would have saw it even if he was caught slap bang in the middle of it.
I've watched the gifs several times over. It wasn't a dive.
Is this the incident where McMahon deliberately takes O'Shea out, so he can't make the tackle on the Dub with the ball? He never got a bang on the head there at all.
Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on August 31, 2015, 02:13:43 PM
O'Connor seemed wired to the moon yesterday. Every time there was a free against a Dublin player he seemed to be straight over red faced, roaring at the ref or the linesmen appealing for cards to be dished out. Just thought it was out of character as he's usually fairly mild mannered during most games.
The more you look at that COC incident you'd have to wonder about the impartiality of done umpires. Looks worse every time I look at it
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 31, 2015, 02:40:09 PM
Is this the incident where McMahon deliberately takes O'Shea out, so he can't make the tackle on the Dub with the ball? He never got a bang on the head there at all.
No stitches then?
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The only serious and dangerous injury was O Connor on O' Carroll, the others were dangerous but no one got seriously injured, O Connor put O Carroll in hospital with 10 stiches and could have ended his season if he doesn't play next week and Dubs lose, a dangerous and wild strike back, one match ban.
Cooper very lucky not be shown red as was Lee Keegan and maybe a couple of others but O Connors was wild.
So McMahons headbutt wasn't serious or dangerous?
Didn't see it! I was too busy watching Lee Keegan sledging Connolly all game, but heard there was no real contact. Philly did a great job man marking the best player in the country they we call superman out of the game, a job well done.
I understand lads your hate for Dublin, I do, but come off it.
You will have your Mayo win next week with the GAA, the media, the officials and all 31 other counties cheering them on and influencing the game.
Fixed that!
Connolly was just punching Keegans hand to try and get him to let go so he could continue to make that run he was making in the first place until he was dragged down. O Connor then tried to get players sent off like a Chelsea soccer player then all the media and Mayo players and management in the media today vilifying Dublin.
As Henry Sheflin,( now we would hardly argue with him) said O Shea and Connolly got no protection yesterday, Keegan was trying his best to rouse Connolly all game, just like Philly was to O Shea, O Shea was highlighted more.
And you wonder why Mayo haven't won an All Ireland in 60 years, perhaps more interested in talking to the media.
Quote from: The Aristocrat on August 31, 2015, 02:44:05 PM
Connolly was just punching Keegans hand to try and get him to let go so he could continue to make that run he was making in the first place until he was dragged down. O Connor then tried to get players sent off like a Chelsea soccer player then all the media and Mayo players and management in the media today vilifying Dublin.
As Henry Sheflin,( now we would hardly argue with him) said O Shea and Connolly got no protection yesterday, Keegan was trying his best to rouse Connolly all game, just like Philly was to O Shea, O Shea was highlighted more.
And you wonder why Mayo haven't won an All Ireland in 60 years, perhaps more interested in talking to the media.
I do agree that Keegan seems to have pulled Connolly down there.
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Quote from: GalwayBayBoy on August 31, 2015, 02:13:43 PM
O'Connor seemed wired to the moon yesterday. Every time there was a free against a Dublin player he seemed to be straight over red faced, roaring at the ref or the linesmen appealing for cards to be dished out. Just thought it was out of character as he's usually fairly mild mannered during most games.
The more you look at that COC incident you'd have to wonder about the impartiality of done umpires. Looks worse every time I look at it
Stop looking at it so.....
Has anyone mentioned Tyrone lately?
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If Tyrone had played like Dublin yesterday there would have been a massive media backlash in the South focusing on their cynical play. I look forward to listening to off the ball to see if Parkinson is as outraged by the Dubs.
Dubs and Mayo you mean.
Anyway, lets hope justice is done and O Connor misses the replay.
So on your rationale out for Mayo go O'Connor
And out for Dublin so should go Cluxton, McMahon, Cooper, O'Sullivan, Connolly,
The only serious and dangerous injury was O Connor on O' Carroll, the others were dangerous but no one got seriously injured, O Connor put O Carroll in hospital with 10 stiches and could have ended his season if he doesn't play next week and Dubs lose, a dangerous and wild strike back, one match ban.
Cooper very lucky not be shown red as was Lee Keegan and maybe a couple of others but O Connors was wild.
Based on the serious injury rule all Dubs will be banned from the Hill next Saturday. Lot of Mayo supporters claiming to have contracted Hep C yesterday.
Good one Mike, very intelligent, surprised the Mods allowed this one or else it could be a free for all.
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If Tyrone had played like Dublin yesterday there would have been a massive media backlash in the South focusing on their cynical play. I look forward to listening to off the ball to see if Parkinson is as outraged by the Dubs.
Dubs and Mayo you mean.
Anyway, lets hope justice is done and O Connor misses the replay.
So on your rationale out for Mayo go O'Connor
And out for Dublin so should go Cluxton, McMahon, Cooper, O'Sullivan, Connolly,
The only serious and dangerous injury was O Connor on O' Carroll, the others were dangerous but no one got seriously injured, O Connor put O Carroll in hospital with 10 stiches and could have ended his season if he doesn't play next week and Dubs lose, a dangerous and wild strike back, one match ban.
Cooper very lucky not be shown red as was Lee Keegan and maybe a couple of others but O Connors was wild.
Based on the serious injury rule all Dubs will be banned from the Hill next Saturday. Lot of Mayo supporters claiming to have contracted Hep C yesterday.
Good one Mike, very intelligent, surprised the Mods allowed this one or else it could be a free for all.
The way the mods work on this website they are happy enough for Dubs to be called junkies but not for Ballina people to be called itinerants
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 31, 2015, 02:40:09 PM
Is this the incident where McMahon deliberately takes O'Shea out, so he can't make the tackle on the Dub with the ball? He never got a bang on the head there at all.
That's the one all right. Soccer players in Premiership should be watching to get pointers. Lot of "soccer" fans at the game yesterday as well with all the Oleing. Very un-classy and never was a part of the GAA game. Shows what very arrogant fans they are.
For that alone I hope they get bet.
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Quote from: AZOffaly on August 31, 2015, 02:40:09 PM
Is this the incident where McMahon deliberately takes O'Shea out, so he can't make the tackle on the Dub with the ball? He never got a bang on the head there at all.
That's the one all right. Soccer players in Premiership should be watching to get pointers. Lot of "soccer" fans at the game yesterday as well with all the Oleing. Very un-classy and never was a part of the GAA game. Shows what very arrogant fans they are.
For that alone I hope they get bet.
In fairness, I think the oléing was responding to the Mayo fans jeering the Dubs playing keep ball as the Mayo defence was in place. I don't think it was Meath 2001 all over again or anything like that.
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The only serious and dangerous injury was O Connor on O' Carroll, the others were dangerous but no one got seriously injured, O Connor put O Carroll in hospital with 10 stiches and could have ended his season if he doesn't play next week and Dubs lose, a dangerous and wild strike back, one match ban.
Cooper very lucky not be shown red as was Lee Keegan and maybe a couple of others but O Connors was wild.
So McMahons headbutt wasn't serious or dangerous?
Didn't see it! I was too busy watching Lee Keegan sledging Connolly all game, but heard there was no real contact. Philly did a great job man marking the best player in the country they call superman out of the game, a job well done.
I understand lads your hate for Dublin, I do, but come off it.
You will have your Mayo win next week with the GAA, the media, the officials and all 31 other counties cheering them on and influencing the game.
You didn't see it. Its in the nationals and online.
anyway here you go. What's your feedback?
http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/football/watch-aidan-oshea-claims-he-was-headbutted-351123.html
Also, whats your thoughts on the McMahon dive to get O'Shea sent off ? I can get that on video for you as well if you want.
Wasn't a dive. O'Shea caught him.
I'll have whatever Jell O Biofra's having! Are you alright in the head ? Watch the replay very carefully, maybe rewind it a few times in slow-mo, and come back here and tell me it wasn't a feigned injury/dive? If there was "contact" it definitely wasn't to McMahon's face or head. The manner in which he lay down after time-wasting was ridiculous, right in front of McQuillan as well, not that he would have saw it even if he was caught slap bang in the middle of it.
I've watched the gifs several times over. It wasn't a dive.
Your some craic. Get them glasses off ye! He took O'Shea out of play, and once he knew he'd done this in front of the ref he took the most graceful fall clutching his head. And stayed on the ground holding his head. Yet O'Shea got up and went on about his business, what was it then??
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Quote from: The Aristocrat on August 31, 2015, 02:44:05 PM
Connolly was just punching Keegans hand to try and get him to let go so he could continue to make that run he was making in the first place until he was dragged down. O Connor then tried to get players sent off like a Chelsea soccer player then all the media and Mayo players and management in the media today vilifying Dublin.
As Henry Sheflin,( now we would hardly argue with him) said O Shea and Connolly got no protection yesterday, Keegan was trying his best to rouse Connolly all game, just like Philly was to O Shea, O Shea was highlighted more.
And you wonder why Mayo haven't won an All Ireland in 60 years, perhaps more interested in talking to the media.
Considering at leat 3 Dubs should have seen red at that point of the game, would you blame him for asking the red/linesman to do their fvckin jobs
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 31, 2015, 02:51:25 PM
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Quote from: AZOffaly on August 31, 2015, 02:40:09 PM
Is this the incident where McMahon deliberately takes O'Shea out, so he can't make the tackle on the Dub with the ball? He never got a bang on the head there at all.
That's the one all right. Soccer players in Premiership should be watching to get pointers. Lot of "soccer" fans at the game yesterday as well with all the Oleing. Very un-classy and never was a part of the GAA game. Shows what very arrogant fans they are.
For that alone I hope they get bet.
In fairness, I think the oléing was responding to the Mayo fans jeering the Dubs playing keep ball as the Mayo defence was in place. I don't think it was Meath 2001 all over again or anything like that.
Nope - that doesn't justify it. You can't make a case there to have it brought into the game. As to the jeering - well most of that has come from Dub supporters over every free that ever had to be taken into the hill in the past 20 years. As a result it's now more or less accepted in the game.
But there is no place for the Oleing at all in my opinion whatever. When Meath did it to Kerry in 2001 it was disgusting but luckily Meath got their comeuppance against Galway in the final.
Dublin fans resurrected it yesterday again though. It was more sickening to hear it again cos I though it was history.
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Quote from: Mario on August 31, 2015, 12:24:54 PM
If Tyrone had played like Dublin yesterday there would have been a massive media backlash in the South focusing on their cynical play. I look forward to listening to off the ball to see if Parkinson is as outraged by the Dubs.
Dubs and Mayo you mean.
Anyway, lets hope justice is done and O Connor misses the replay.
So on your rationale out for Mayo go O'Connor
And out for Dublin so should go Cluxton, McMahon, Cooper, O'Sullivan, Connolly,
The only serious and dangerous injury was O Connor on O' Carroll, the others were dangerous but no one got seriously injured, O Connor put O Carroll in hospital with 10 stiches and could have ended his season if he doesn't play next week and Dubs lose, a dangerous and wild strike back, one match ban.
Cooper very lucky not be shown red as was Lee Keegan and maybe a couple of others but O Connors was wild.
Based on the serious injury rule all Dubs will be banned from the Hill next Saturday. Lot of Mayo supporters claiming to have contracted Hep C yesterday.
Good one Mike, very intelligent, surprised the Mods allowed this one or else it could be a free for all.
The way the mods work on this website they are happy enough for Dubs to be called junkies but not for Ballina people to be called itinerants
With your levels of paranoia you have to be on drugs. If not, you should be.
I think you might be over reacting there. The Oléing used to be a taunt to the losing team that you can't get the ball back. That's what Meath were at in 2001. That's not what the Dubs were at yesterday.
The dubs were getting cheered for playing 'keep ball' while Donegal got boo'd for it in the Quarter Final.
http://www.balls.ie/gaa/diarmuid-connollys-red-card/306887
Connolly throws a dig yes. OConnor throws one on 46 secs also
http://www.the42.ie/dublin-mayo-tickets-replay-2302162-Aug2015/
Looking like another sell out?
Quote from: vallankumous on August 31, 2015, 03:05:59 PM
The dubs were getting cheered for playing 'keep ball' while Donegal got boo'd for it in the Quarter Final.
Ah but the Dubs did it in a manly way and in a way that all great footballing teams do!
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 31, 2015, 03:05:25 PM
I think you might be over reacting there. The Oléing used to be a taunt to the losing team that you can't get the ball back. That's what Meath were at in 2001. That's not what the Dubs were at yesterday.
And I think you are trying to make a strong case to bring it into the game. Lots of stronger teams will play keep ball especially against blanket defenses. Should all fans then taunt the opposition for trying to stick to a gameplan?
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Quote from: Wildweasel74 on August 31, 2015, 01:05:36 PM
As i say previously the O`Connor incident wasn't even a free, Connolly suspension will stand, Coopers has already been dealt with with a yellow. If McMahon gets off after all his carry on the GAA a mess. Its a pitch your manger didn't want to chase up the broken jaw incident in the Armagh game saying your so concerned with a man getting 10stitches in a accidental collision/
Connolly will get off.
How will he get off?
Quote from: Nihilist on August 31, 2015, 03:10:51 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 31, 2015, 03:05:25 PM
I think you might be over reacting there. The Oléing used to be a taunt to the losing team that you can't get the ball back. That's what Meath were at in 2001. That's not what the Dubs were at yesterday.
And I think you are trying to make a strong case to bring it into the game. Lots of stronger teams will play keep ball especially against blanket defenses. Should all fans then taunt the opposition for trying to stick to a gameplan?
Not at all. I'm just saying it wasn't the same thing at all. You seem determined to imply the Dubs were being unsporting there. They weren't.
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As i say previously the O`Connor incident wasn't even a free, Connolly suspension will stand, Coopers has already been dealt with with a yellow. If McMahon gets off after all his carry on the GAA a mess. Its a pitch your manger didn't want to chase up the broken jaw incident in the Armagh game saying your so concerned with a man getting 10stitches in a accidental collision/
Connolly will get off.
How will he get off?
Because the GAA is a joke
Any word on the referee for the replay?
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http://www.balls.ie/gaa/diarmuid-connollys-red-card/306887
Connolly throws a dig yes. OConnor throws one on 46 secs also
Nah, that wasn't a dig. He was trying to shove Connolly off Keegan. Keegan started all that by the way, he dragged Connolly down.
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on August 31, 2015, 03:19:18 PM
Any word on the referee for the replay?
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http://www.balls.ie/gaa/diarmuid-connollys-red-card/306887
Connolly throws a dig yes. OConnor throws one on 46 secs also
Nah, that wasn't a dig. He was trying to shove Connolly off Keegan. Keegan started all that by the way, he dragged Connolly down.
He threw in a dig dude, call it as it is, at least we hold our hands up regarding Cooper and Connolly
That wasn't a dig. He was getting Connolly off him. Why would he throw a punch when he's simultaneously roaring at the linesman to look at him?
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Quote from: Wildweasel74 on August 31, 2015, 01:05:36 PM
As i say previously the O`Connor incident wasn't even a free, Connolly suspension will stand, Coopers has already been dealt with with a yellow. If McMahon gets off after all his carry on the GAA a mess. Its a pitch your manger didn't want to chase up the broken jaw incident in the Armagh game saying your so concerned with a man getting 10stitches in a accidental collision/
Connolly will get off.
How will he get off?
Because the GAA is a joke
The video evidence is there for all to see.
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 31, 2015, 03:17:26 PM
Not at all. I'm just saying it wasn't the same thing at all. You seem determined to imply the Dubs were being unsporting there. They weren't.
Calling it anything else give everyone a licence to use it.
They started Oleing at a GAA match.
Its unsporting and nothing less.
It is a pity Connolly regressed so much yesterday, outside of that incident you could see something happening a mile away. Either Mayo go under his skin badly or the occasion got to him somehow. Looked way too hyped up.
People are going to talking Connolly the Hothead rather than Connolly the Best Footballer now.
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 31, 2015, 03:25:31 PM
That wasn't a dig. He was getting Connolly off him. Why would he throw a punch when he's simultaneously roaring at the linesman to look at him?
Threw it in before his whinging
Fair enough. We'll have to disagree on that one.
Quote from: JoG2 on August 31, 2015, 03:12:05 PM
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Quote from: Wildweasel74 on August 31, 2015, 01:05:36 PM
As i say previously the O`Connor incident wasn't even a free, Connolly suspension will stand, Coopers has already been dealt with with a yellow. If McMahon gets off after all his carry on the GAA a mess. Its a pitch your manger didn't want to chase up the broken jaw incident in the Armagh game saying your so concerned with a man getting 10stitches in a accidental collision/
Connolly will get off.
How will he get off?
In fairness Keane got off and he clearly struck his opponent in the head. Once you let him off, etc, etc.
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Quote from: Wildweasel74 on August 31, 2015, 01:05:36 PM
As i say previously the O`Connor incident wasn't even a free, Connolly suspension will stand, Coopers has already been dealt with with a yellow. If McMahon gets off after all his carry on the GAA a mess. Its a pitch your manger didn't want to chase up the broken jaw incident in the Armagh game saying your so concerned with a man getting 10stitches in a accidental collision/
Connolly will get off.
How will he get off?
In fairness Keane got off and he clearly struck his opponent in the head. Once you let him off, etc, etc.
I'm not so sure, no better county to make an example off, Cooper and Connolly maybe gone but oconnor has a case to answer too.............. Say what you want about McMahon but he simulated a head movement, oshea would make a top flag man in the airport such is his constant up in arms gestures at his mistreatment and sense of injustice
Kerry must be breaking their holes laughing
Eddie Kinsella has got the gig as referee, that's Dublin gone now, will get nothing now, especially with all the media bias towards Dublin. Mayo by 6.
Sure maybe McQuillan 'forgot' to write Connolly's name in the book. That worked before and would be a handy way out.
Quote from: Nihilist on August 31, 2015, 03:26:10 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 31, 2015, 03:17:26 PM
Not at all. I'm just saying it wasn't the same thing at all. You seem determined to imply the Dubs were being unsporting there. They weren't.
Calling it anything else give everyone a licence to use it.
They started Oleing at a GAA match.
Its unsporting and nothing less.
Oh shut up would you ffs.
Every year we have this shite comparing football to soccer.
I don't like the Dubs but oleing at a game isn't unsporting and it does add to the atmosphere.
Why do we always have to hear about how you'd only see that in a soccer game(diving,cheating,trying to get an opponent booked) when it's just as rampant in gaelic football.
This notion that the Gaa and Gaelic football in particular is above all that is ridiculous.
Proof that Philly Mc did not headbutt O Shea, only leaned his head towards him, no contact made, slow it down if you like:
https://twitter.com/DubMatchTracker?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor
A nothing incident. Non Dubs media and Mayo players and management milking it. Apparently the Mayo management were also trying to influence the ref at half time regarding O Shea, influencing officials, what next.
Lads, ye are gone mental.
Quote from: The Aristocrat on August 31, 2015, 03:53:08 PM
Proof that Philly Mc did not headbutt O Shea, only leaned his head towards him, no contact made, slow it down if you like:
https://twitter.com/DubMatchTracker?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor
Brilliant footage, Philly did an excellent job all day on OShea, what a snakes manoeuvre by OShea
Quote from: The Aristocrat on August 31, 2015, 03:48:18 PM
Eddie Kinsella has got the gig as referee, that's Dublin gone now, will get nothing now, especially with all the media bias towards Dublin. Mayo by 6.
AIG money might have something to say about that.
Quote from: The Aristocrat on August 31, 2015, 03:53:08 PM
Proof that Philly Mc did not headbutt O Shea, only leaned his head towards him, no contact made, slow it down if you like:
https://twitter.com/DubMatchTracker?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor
A nothing incident. Non Dubs media and Mayo players and management milking it. Apparently the Mayo management were also trying to influence the ref at half time regarding O Shea, influencing officials, what next.
LOL...I think you could say thats clear proof that he DID headbut him
Quote from: squire_in_navy_slacks on August 31, 2015, 03:55:57 PM
Quote from: The Aristocrat on August 31, 2015, 03:53:08 PM
Proof that Philly Mc did not headbutt O Shea, only leaned his head towards him, no contact made, slow it down if you like:
https://twitter.com/DubMatchTracker?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor
There doesn't have to be contact for it to be a red card though
Quote from: mikehunt on August 31, 2015, 03:57:10 PM
Quote from: The Aristocrat on August 31, 2015, 03:48:18 PM
Eddie Kinsella has got the gig as referee, that's Dublin gone now, will get nothing now, especially with all the media bias towards Dublin. Mayo by 6.
Where'd you hear?
Some craic the post match "analysis" these days.
If the TMO needs as long to sort out all these incidents during a game we may bring our sleeping bags to games. I'd heard people say, "sure we'll go to Dublin for the game and make a weekend of it" but literally they will have to make a weekend of it now.
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on August 31, 2015, 03:58:17 PM
Quote from: squire_in_navy_slacks on August 31, 2015, 03:55:57 PM
Quote from: The Aristocrat on August 31, 2015, 03:53:08 PM
Proof that Philly Mc did not headbutt O Shea, only leaned his head towards him, no contact made, slow it down if you like:
https://twitter.com/DubMatchTracker?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor
There doesn't have to be contact for it to be a red card though
So it was the Mayo sniper on the grassy hill that clipped OCarrolls head too ::) ::)
Double standards are relentless here.............. Scumbags to hep c victims to coke heads gushed on this site regarding Dublin fans, I recall Johnny Cooper being stabbed recently by a lad from a particular part of the country
Quote from: laoislad on August 31, 2015, 03:50:41 PM
Quote from: Nihilist on August 31, 2015, 03:26:10 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 31, 2015, 03:17:26 PM
Not at all. I'm just saying it wasn't the same thing at all. You seem determined to imply the Dubs were being unsporting there. They weren't.
Calling it anything else give everyone a licence to use it.
They started Oleing at a GAA match.
Its unsporting and nothing less.
Oh shut up would you ffs.
Every year we have this shite comparing football to soccer.
I don't like the Dubs but oleing at a game isn't unsporting and it does add to the atmosphere.
Why do we always have to hear about how you'd only see that in a soccer game(diving,cheating,trying to get an opponent booked) when it's just as rampant in gaelic football.
This notion that the Gaa and Gaelic football in particular is above all that is ridiculous.
If you want GAA to turn more into soccer then this is another thing to allow to be brought in. Taunt the other supporters. H'mm so whats after that and Where does it end? More diving, feigning injury, more sledging. What's next - Coin throwing? If the GAA supporters allow it to continue I suppose it will eventually end with segregation of the supporters.
If that's what you want - fine. But it's not the way I want the organisation to be.
Quote from: squire_in_navy_slacks on August 31, 2015, 03:55:57 PM
Quote from: The Aristocrat on August 31, 2015, 03:53:08 PM
Proof that Philly Mc did not headbutt O Shea, only leaned his head towards him, no contact made, slow it down if you like:
https://twitter.com/DubMatchTracker?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor
Brilliant footage, Philly did an excellent job all day on OShea, what a snakes manoeuvre by OShea
As was mentioned during the game, it was a mismatch. It was like poodle marking a grizzly bear
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Quote from: JoG2 on August 31, 2015, 04:05:37 PM
Quote from: squire_in_navy_slacks on August 31, 2015, 03:55:57 PM
Quote from: The Aristocrat on August 31, 2015, 03:53:08 PM
Proof that Philly Mc did not headbutt O Shea, only leaned his head towards him, no contact made, slow it down if you like:
https://twitter.com/DubMatchTracker?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor
Brilliant footage, Philly did an excellent job all day on OShea, what a snakes manoeuvre by OShea
As was mentioned during the game, it was a mismatch. It was like poodle marking a grizzly bear
Then why was the 'grizzly bear' held scoreless?
Quote from: mikehunt on August 31, 2015, 03:57:10 PM
Quote from: The Aristocrat on August 31, 2015, 03:48:18 PM
Eddie Kinsella has got the gig as referee, that's Dublin gone now, will get nothing now, especially with all the media bias towards Dublin. Mayo by 6.
AIG money might have something to say about that.
Or the Kerry Group money being one of the biggest companies in the world, don't start this nonsense again, use the other threads.
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 31, 2015, 03:55:46 PM
Lads, ye are gone mental.
This happened to you lads a long time ago, im just stating facts. There is a clear anti Dubs agenda on this site and in the media. It needed balance.
Quote from: whitey on August 31, 2015, 03:57:52 PM
Quote from: The Aristocrat on August 31, 2015, 03:53:08 PM
Proof that Philly Mc did not headbutt O Shea, only leaned his head towards him, no contact made, slow it down if you like:
https://twitter.com/DubMatchTracker?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor
A nothing incident. Non Dubs media and Mayo players and management milking it. Apparently the Mayo management were also trying to influence the ref at half time regarding O Shea, influencing officials, what next.
LOL...I think you could say thats clear proof that he DID headbut him
Where? his head fell into him slightly, clearly not a head butt and Philly will line out again the next day and mark him out of the game again, Phillys best performace for keeping a man they call superman to no scores, excellent defensive play.
I would blame the Mayo management for O Shea's poor performance for not moving him out to midfield away from Philly, Philly could have followed him but doubt it.
Quote in the times regarding the Mayo management trying to influence the referee and officials at half time.
Quote from: The Aristocrat on August 31, 2015, 04:08:55 PM
Quote from: mikehunt on August 31, 2015, 03:57:10 PM
Quote from: The Aristocrat on August 31, 2015, 03:48:18 PM
Eddie Kinsella has got the gig as referee, that's Dublin gone now, will get nothing now, especially with all the media bias towards Dublin. Mayo by 6.
AIG money might have something to say about that.
Or the Kerry Group money being one of the biggest companies in the world, don't start this nonsense again, use the other threads.
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 31, 2015, 03:55:46 PM
Lads, ye are gone mental.
This happened to you lads a long time ago, im just stating facts. There is a clear anti Dubs agenda on this site and in the media. It needed balance.
Quote from: whitey on August 31, 2015, 03:57:52 PM
Quote from: The Aristocrat on August 31, 2015, 03:53:08 PM
Proof that Philly Mc did not headbutt O Shea, only leaned his head towards him, no contact made, slow it down if you like:
https://twitter.com/DubMatchTracker?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor
A nothing incident. Non Dubs media and Mayo players and management milking it. Apparently the Mayo management were also trying to influence the ref at half time regarding O Shea, influencing officials, what next.
LOL...I think you could say thats clear proof that he DID headbut him
Where? his head fell into him slightly, clearly not a head butt and Philly will line out again the next day and mark him out of the game again, Phillys best performace for keeping a man they call superman to no scores, excellent defensive play.
I would blame the Mayo management for O Shea's poor performance for not moving him out to midfield away from Philly, Philly could have followed him but doubt it.
Quote in the times regarding the Mayo management trying to influence the referee and officials at half time.
I have no anti Dublin agenda. That's ridiculous. You're letting a few lads comments about money cloud your judgment.
Quote from: The Aristocrat on August 31, 2015, 03:53:08 PM
Proof that Philly Mc did not headbutt O Shea, only leaned his head towards him, no contact made, slow it down if you like:
https://twitter.com/DubMatchTracker?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor
A nothing incident. Non Dubs media and Mayo players and management milking it. Apparently the Mayo management were also trying to influence the ref at half time regarding O Shea, influencing officials, what next.
Yes, I don't think it was a headbutt. O'Shea pulled him in.
Quote from: Nihilist on August 31, 2015, 04:02:48 PM
Quote from: laoislad on August 31, 2015, 03:50:41 PM
Quote from: Nihilist on August 31, 2015, 03:26:10 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 31, 2015, 03:17:26 PM
Not at all. I'm just saying it wasn't the same thing at all. You seem determined to imply the Dubs were being unsporting there. They weren't.
Calling it anything else give everyone a licence to use it.
They started Oleing at a GAA match.
Its unsporting and nothing less.
Oh shut up would you ffs.
Every year we have this shite comparing football to soccer.
I don't like the Dubs but oleing at a game isn't unsporting and it does add to the atmosphere.
Why do we always have to hear about how you'd only see that in a soccer game(diving,cheating,trying to get an opponent booked) when it's just as rampant in gaelic football.
This notion that the Gaa and Gaelic football in particular is above all that is ridiculous.
If you want GAA to turn more into soccer then this is another thing to allow to be brought in. Taunt the other supporters. H'mm so whats after that and Where does it end? More diving, feigning injury, more sledging. What's next - Coin throwing? If the GAA supporters allow it to continue I suppose it will eventually end with segregation of the supporters.
If that's what you want - fine. But it's not the way I want the organisation to be.
It already has those things in abundance ffs.
As I said this notion that the Gaa and gaelic football is the last great bastion of fairness is nonsense.
Coin throwing? Hill 16 Dublin fans threw full bottles of water at the Laois minors a few years ago as they were celebrating a Leinster Title,apparently they weren't allowed to celebrate in front of the Hill ::)
You may like one sport over the other which is fair enough, but don't be so insecure about gaelic football that you have to compare it to soccer at every opportunity.
Quote from: vallankumous on August 31, 2015, 04:12:49 PM
Yes, I don't think it was a headbutt. O'Shea pulled him in.
Ya looked at it in slowmo. O'Shea pulled him in. And then Philly went in with the head for the nose.
Only good thing to come out of yesterday is that Mayo are still in the champuonship.
Quote from: Nihilist on August 31, 2015, 04:15:43 PM
Ya looked at it in slowmo. O'Shea pulled him in. And then Philly went in with the head for the nose.
I don't think so. If he wanted to headbutt him he would have and we know for sure. You know when someone is headbutted on the nose.
Quote from: Mayo4Sam14 on August 31, 2015, 04:07:46 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on August 31, 2015, 04:05:37 PM
Quote from: squire_in_navy_slacks on August 31, 2015, 03:55:57 PM
Quote from: The Aristocrat on August 31, 2015, 03:53:08 PM
Proof that Philly Mc did not headbutt O Shea, only leaned his head towards him, no contact made, slow it down if you like:
https://twitter.com/DubMatchTracker?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor
Brilliant footage, Philly did an excellent job all day on OShea, what a snakes manoeuvre by OShea
As was mentioned during the game, it was a mismatch. It was like poodle marking a grizzly bear
Then why was the 'grizzly bear' held scoreless?
I shouldn't have to spell it out Mr negative surely? You'd know enough to answer that yourself
Quote from: squire_in_navy_slacks on August 31, 2015, 03:55:57 PM
Quote from: The Aristocrat on August 31, 2015, 03:53:08 PM
Proof that Philly Mc did not headbutt O Shea, only leaned his head towards him, no contact made, slow it down if you like:
https://twitter.com/DubMatchTracker?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor
Brilliant footage, Philly did an excellent job all day on OShea, what a snakes manoeuvre by OShea
McMahon was acting the maggot yesterday. Fouling all day and never had a proper grasp on AOS even with two men backing him up at all times.
He held his face as if AOS had raked him across the eyes when they collided accidentally in the second half even though the replay showed AOS never touched McMahon's face with his hand. The ref had to get the linesman in before he knew there was nothing in it.
Quote from: Farrandeelin on August 31, 2015, 04:22:34 PM
Only good thing to come out of yesterday is that Mayo are still in the champuonship.
That and Cillian has got his free taking boots back on!
Quote from: The Aristocrat on August 31, 2015, 04:08:55 PM
This happened to you lads a long time ago, im just stating facts. There is a clear anti Dubs agenda on this site and in the media. It needed balance.
You have nearly a quarter of the country's population. You have received massive investment at all level's at the expense of other counties. You get big companies to sponsor you. You get to play all games at home, with one stand give to the home supporters all the time. You have all this and yet only win 3 All-Irelands in 30 years. Some people claim victimisation, others would say over-rated.
Tyrone who have a fraction of the population and investment win the same number of All-irelands in 5 years get pilloried on a regular basis (some of it justified). I would consider them to be more worthy victims of the media.
Have u read the Evening Heddled lately?
Quote from: Syferus on August 31, 2015, 04:32:06 PM
Quote from: squire_in_navy_slacks on August 31, 2015, 03:55:57 PM
Quote from: The Aristocrat on August 31, 2015, 03:53:08 PM
Proof that Philly Mc did not headbutt O Shea, only leaned his head towards him, no contact made, slow it down if you like:
https://twitter.com/DubMatchTracker?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor
Brilliant footage, Philly did an excellent job all day on OShea, what a snakes manoeuvre by OShea
McMahon was acting the maggot yesterday. Fouling all day and never had a proper grasp on AOS even with two men backing him up at all times.
He held his face as if AOS had raked him across the eyes when they collided accidentally in the second half even though the replay showed AOS never touched McMahon's face with his hand. The ref had to get the linesman in before he knew there was nothing in it.
Not accurate, how many fouls did McMahon give away, I watched both closely, Philly had him under raps and O Shea who is meant to be the best player in the country didn't get much of a sniff of him. O Shea was acting the maggot in that incident you refer too. A lot of the Mayo team know how to play up to the officials.
O'Shea, who is meant to be the best player in the country - according to JIM GAVIN!
Quote from: mikehunt on August 31, 2015, 04:35:57 PM
Quote from: The Aristocrat on August 31, 2015, 04:08:55 PM
This happened to you lads a long time ago, im just stating facts. There is a clear anti Dubs agenda on this site and in the media. It needed balance.
You have nearly a quarter of the country's population. You have received massive investment at all level's at the expense of other counties. You get big companies to sponsor you. You get to play all games at home, with one stand give to the home supporters all the time. You have all this and yet only win 3 All-Irelands in 30 years. Some people claim victimisation, others would say over-rated.
Tyrone who have a fraction of the population and investment win the same number of All-irelands in 5 years get pilloried on a regular basis (some of it justified). I would consider them to be more worthy victims of the media.
Have u read the Evening Heddled lately?
Don't read the papers, all agenda driven rags. All of them. Its Herald by the way!
I agree with you on Tyrone, I was cheering for them v Kerry, they get a hard time of you guys and media, Kerry and Brolly driven, the rest of you post is rubbish, gain Dublin bias.
Have a look at this - Connolly was the man who started with Keegan.
And O'Connor certainly does not strike Connolly.
https://t.co/IYZoJ7S73b (https://t.co/IYZoJ7S73b)
Quote from: The Aristocrat on August 31, 2015, 04:37:25 PM
Quote from: Syferus on August 31, 2015, 04:32:06 PM
Quote from: squire_in_navy_slacks on August 31, 2015, 03:55:57 PM
Quote from: The Aristocrat on August 31, 2015, 03:53:08 PM
Proof that Philly Mc did not headbutt O Shea, only leaned his head towards him, no contact made, slow it down if you like:
https://twitter.com/DubMatchTracker?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor
Brilliant footage, Philly did an excellent job all day on OShea, what a snakes manoeuvre by OShea
McMahon was acting the maggot yesterday. Fouling all day and never had a proper grasp on AOS even with two men backing him up at all times.
He held his face as if AOS had raked him across the eyes when they collided accidentally in the second half even though the replay showed AOS never touched McMahon's face with his hand. The ref had to get the linesman in before he knew there was nothing in it.
Not accurate, how many fouls did McMahon give away, I watched both closely, Philly had him under raps and O Shea who is meant to be the best player in the country didn't get much of a sniff of him. O Shea was acting the maggot in that incident you refer too. A lot of the Mayo team know how to play up to the officials.
O'Shea was fouled by McMahon numerous times, but he only got 3 scorable frees, and had a penalty claim also after McMahon was all over him. I'd argue that if it weren't for the help of both Cian O'Sullivan and Cluxton McMahon would have been annihilated 1v1, he simply couldn't prevent O'Shea's advances as the ball virtually stuck to him when there was accurate long ball played in to his hands, McMahon had to end up fouling him until help arrived.
Quote from: Tubberman on August 31, 2015, 04:45:31 PM
Have a look at this - Connolly was the man who started with Keegan.
And O'Connor certainly does not strike Connolly.
https://t.co/IYZoJ7S73b (https://t.co/IYZoJ7S73b)
Looks like the ref got it spot on.
Quote from: vallankumous on August 31, 2015, 04:22:44 PM
Quote from: Nihilist on August 31, 2015, 04:15:43 PM
Ya looked at it in slowmo. O'Shea pulled him in. And then Philly went in with the head for the nose.
I don't think so. If he wanted to headbutt him he would have and we know for sure. You know when someone is headbutted on the nose.
So you're calling O'Shea a liar. Frankly after all the videos I have seen on it I'm inclined to believe that O'Shea told the truth when he said he was headbutted. Whether Philly went full blast or not to make sure he broke his nose and made s**t of him is another thing.
Quote from: vallankumous on August 31, 2015, 05:09:56 PM
Quote from: Tubberman on August 31, 2015, 04:45:31 PM
Have a look at this - Connolly was the man who started with Keegan.
And O'Connor certainly does not strike Connolly.
https://t.co/IYZoJ7S73b (https://t.co/IYZoJ7S73b)
Looks like the ref got it spot on.
very hard game to ref. Dubs were very cynical too.
An attempted headbutt is a 2 month suspension i believe. If funny the 2 Dublin men most in trouble were the same pair who had a run in last year in a club game lol
Doesn't look like headbutt from this angle: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uzfm59Xx9Yk
Quote from: Tubberman on August 31, 2015, 04:45:31 PM
Have a look at this - Connolly was the man who started with Keegan.
And O'Connor certainly does not strike Connolly.
https://t.co/IYZoJ7S73b (https://t.co/IYZoJ7S73b)
Yeah looks like Keegan grappled him to the ground, Connolly came out better, o Connor influenced the linesman who influenced the ref. That's just one incident, Keegan at him all game, reminded me of lar Corbett / Tommy Walsh affair.
Keegan gone down in my book after yesterday, thought he was better than that. Players like o Shea, Connolly, Gooch don't get enough protection.
Quote from: The Aristocrat on August 31, 2015, 05:52:25 PM
Quote from: Tubberman on August 31, 2015, 04:45:31 PM
Have a look at this - Connolly was the man who started with Keegan.
And O'Connor certainly does not strike Connolly.
https://t.co/IYZoJ7S73b (https://t.co/IYZoJ7S73b)
Yeah looks like Keegan grappled him to the ground, Connolly came out better, o Connor influenced the linesman who influenced the ref. That's just one incident, Keegan at him all game, reminded me of lar Corbett / Tommy Walsh affair.
Keegan gone down in my book after yesterday, thought he was better than that. Players like o Shea, Connolly, Gooch don't get enough protection.
Right - he "came out better", and even if he did punch him, it was Keegan's fault and also Cillian O'Connor's. I understand.
Quote from: vallankumous on August 31, 2015, 05:09:56 PM
Quote from: Tubberman thlink=topic=26140.msg1508880#msg1508880 date=1441035931
Have a look at this - Connolly was the man who started with Keegan.
And O'Connor certainly does not strike Connolly.
https://t.co/IYZoJ7S73b (https://t.co/IYZoJ7S73b)
Looks like the ref got it spot on.
Trampish act. Lucky it didn't happen in the street or he'd be looking at porridge. Has he any previous for this type of behaviour? Fair play to Keegan fir getting on with it. Honourable unlike that other durty dub McMahon giving it and then feigning it himself. If the GAA let him off it'll prove the pro jackeen agenda within the powers that be.
Is this what our once great game has resorted to? Won't someone think of the kids?
Quote from: mikehunt on August 31, 2015, 05:57:49 PM
Trampish act. Lucky it didn't happen in the street or he'd be looking at porridge. Has he any previous for this type of behaviour? Fair play to Keegan fir getting on with it. Honourable unlike that other durty dub McMahon giving it and then feigning it himself. If the GAA let him off it'll prove the pro jackeen agenda within the powers that be.
Is this what our once great game has resorted to? Won't someone think of the kids?
Seriously? Give the man a break.
Eddie Kinsella in the middle on Sat
Quote from: vallankumous on August 31, 2015, 05:24:42 PM
Quote from: Nihilist on August 31, 2015, 05:18:22 PM
So you're calling O'Shea a liar.
Grow up
What's your problem? You're on here defending Philly McMahon for serious actions he is alleged to have committed. the player he committed it against has publicly come out and pointed the finger.
So essentially you are calling him a liar.
Quote from: mikehunt on August 31, 2015, 05:57:49 PM
Quote from: vallankumous on August 31, 2015, 05:09:56 PM
Quote from: Tubberman thlink=topic=26140.msg1508880#msg1508880 date=1441035931
Have a look at this - Connolly was the man who started with Keegan.
And O'Connor certainly does not strike Connolly.
https://t.co/IYZoJ7S73b (https://t.co/IYZoJ7S73b)
Looks like the ref got it spot on.
Trampish act. Lucky it didn't happen in the street or he'd be looking at porridge. Has he any previous for this type of behaviour? Fair play to Keegan fir getting on with it. Honourable unlike that other durty dub McMahon giving it and then feigning it himself. If the GAA let him off it'll prove the pro jackeen agenda within the powers that be.
Is this what our once great game has resorted to? Won't someone think of the kids?
I agree, trampish act from Keegan, o Shea lieing to the papers too, , influencing the fef and media,GAA need to come down hard on Mayo.
Connolly should be free to play if their is any justice.
Last post on this, Dublin playing clean good football all year, as where Kerry last yeah, then Mayo come along with all their dark art tricks and bring the game into disrepute, common denominator, Mayo.
Play them at their own game or even better than their own game and your the bad guys.
It all started of with o Connor hit on mcmahon and two shoulder barges in the first few minutes, watch it back without the dub hating blinkers on. Mayo were played at their own game.
Quote from: vallankumous on August 31, 2015, 05:59:38 PM
Quote from: mikehunt on August 31, 2015, 05:57:49 PM
Trampish act. Lucky it didn't happen in the street or he'd be looking at porridge. Has he any previous for this type of behaviour? Fair play to Keegan fir getting on with it. Honourable unlike that other durty dub McMahon giving it and then feigning it himself. If the GAA let him off it'll prove the pro jackeen agenda within the powers that be.
Is this what our once great game has resorted to? Won't someone think of the kids?
Seriously? Give the man a break.
Now I'm no legal eagle but punching a man in the head while he's on the ground surely constitutes assault which if it's a first offence may get probation. I may have exaggerated the punishment if this is his first time so apologies for over reacting.
In Gaa land he misses five munutes of play and will be fine and dandy for replay after an appeal. A just punishment indeed.
Or maybe the poor Dubeens don't like when teams don't roll over for them Aristpcrat.
Kerry are quite a cynical team aristocrat. There is no common denominator in the games between the top teams being cynical. They're all at it. Any team with mcmahon on it will hardly be whiter than white either.
There are quite a few anti dubs here who are not from mayo and quite a few dubs getting very wound up by them...
I Understand that gents but just look at the Fermanagh game, not one yellow or black card issued, not sure about previous games but that backs up my point, first 5 mins Mayo throwing their weight around, got it back twice as hard, Dubs bad guys, Mayo angels. I understand we would all love to see Mayo win it but not at the expense of their cynical tactics they use.
New footage of the Connolly incident putting a different light on things. He'll get off i'd say
If retrospective punishments are to be handed out then the first transgression that must be addressed is the most serious assault that occurred in the game: the dangerous assault on Rory O'Carroll.
O'Carroll was the only player who was seriously injured during the game and it was not accidental.
There cannot be any retrospective punishments without this incident being included.
Quote from: The Aristocrat on August 31, 2015, 07:02:22 PM
I Understand that gents but just look at the Fermanagh game, not one yellow or black card issued, not sure about previous games but that backs up my point, first 5 mins Mayo throwing their weight around, got it back twice as hard, Dubs bad guys, Mayo angels. I understand we would all love to see Mayo win it but not at the expense of their cynical tactics they use.
It doesn't back your point up. You didn't need to be cynical in those games. The best teams these days are cynical. That's just the way it is and that includes, when hardy comes to hardy, the dubs.
Quote from: INDIANA on August 31, 2015, 07:09:17 PM
New footage of the Connolly incident putting a different light on things. He'll get off i'd say
Really...it looks worse for him if you ask me. He struck/attempted to strike Keegan at least twice before hey went to ground, and the punch is as clear as day!
Add in the verbal threats to Keegan (captured on camera) after he received red and I'd say his goose is firmly cooked
Quote from: The Aristocrat on August 31, 2015, 07:02:22 PM
I Understand that gents but just look at the Fermanagh game, not one yellow or black card issued, not sure about previous games but that backs up my point, first 5 mins Mayo throwing their weight around, got it back twice as hard, Dubs bad guys, Mayo angels. I understand we would all love to see Mayo win it but not at the expense of their cynical tactics they use.
If ever there was projection at work this is it, even Brolly who had his head up Gavin's hole with his credit to the GAA comments had to admit ye were cynical. Then you talk about media agenda, Brogan got his run the papers earlier in the year about how Dublin never feign injury, never sledge just get on with it, are you seriously trying to posit that Mayo brought the devil out of them with a few shoulders?
I cant believe people are ignoring what O'Connor did in the first few minutes. He knew what he was doing when he swung his elbow, causing O'Carroll to receive ten stitches. He has previous form with his elbows, he split McMahon with his elbow back in 13 final. Dirtiest forward in GAA.
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on August 31, 2015, 07:10:53 PM
If retrospective punishments are to be handed out then the first transgression that must be addressed is the most serious assault that occurred in the game: the dangerous assault on Rory O'Carroll.
O'Carroll was the only player who was seriously injured during the game and it was not accidental.
There cannot be any retrospective punishments without this incident being included.
Donal Vaughan got injured also. Does all players picking up an injury now have to be investigated? if there was no injury would there be an issue?
Quote from: Drummerboy on August 31, 2015, 07:19:11 PM
I cant believe people are ignoring what O'Connor did in the first few minutes. He knew what he was doing when he swung his elbow, causing O'Carroll to receive ten stitches. He has previous form with his elbows, he split McMahon with his elbow back in 13 final. Dirtiest forward in GAA
Do you really want to go back and play that game
Mc Mahon-Headbut on O Se and 2 punches to Boyles face after concession of penalty
Cooper-clearly a red card. One of the most dangerous tackles you'll ever see
Cluxto-Kick on O Se in 1st half
http://www.balls.ie/gaa/interview-pat-mcenaney-disputes-that-philly-mcmahon-head-butted-aidan-oshea/306990
O Shea was lieing to the media, mcstay should resign from the Sunday game.
Quote from: The Aristocrat on August 31, 2015, 07:02:22 PM
I Understand that gents but just look at the Fermanagh game, not one yellow or black card issued, not sure about previous games but that backs up my point, first 5 mins Mayo throwing their weight around, got it back twice as hard, Dubs bad guys, Mayo angels. I understand we would all love to see Mayo win it but not at the expense of their cynical tactics they use.
Mayo didn't throw their weight around. Tom Parsons shouldered Ciaran Kilkenny in the first 5 mins and received a yellow card for it. Resulted in a free which should not have been given never mind the card. Ye seem in Dublin to expect teams to just lie down and die after ye spend 15 minutes toying with them.
Why should Mayo do that? Except of course because maybe ye're playing at home?
Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on August 31, 2015, 07:20:18 PM
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on August 31, 2015, 07:10:53 PM
If retrospective punishments are to be handed out then the first transgression that must be addressed is the most serious assault that occurred in the game: the dangerous assault on Rory O'Carroll.
O'Carroll was the only player who was seriously injured during the game and it was not accidental.
There cannot be any retrospective punishments without this incident being included.
Donal Vaughan got injured also. Does all players picking up an injury now have to be investigated? if there was no injury would there be an issue?
Are you serious? Vaughan injured himself while attempting a reckless tackle. O'Carroll was the victim of a very dirty assault which must be punished.
Quote from: The Aristocrat on August 31, 2015, 05:52:25 PM
Quote from: Tubberman on August 31, 2015, 04:45:31 PM
Have a look at this - Connolly was the man who started with Keegan.
And O'Connor certainly does not strike Connolly.
https://t.co/IYZoJ7S73b (https://t.co/IYZoJ7S73b)
Yeah looks like Keegan grappled him to the ground, Connolly came out better, o Connor influenced the linesman who influenced the ref. That's just one incident, Keegan at him all game, reminded me of lar Corbett / Tommy Walsh affair.
Keegan gone down in my book after yesterday, thought he was better than that. Players like o Shea, Connolly, Gooch don't get enough protection.
You're certainly right about the Gooch not getting enough protection Aristo.
(http://img.thesun.co.uk/aidemitlum/archive/01801/SNE0315A---_1801042a.jpg)
Quote from: IolarCoisCuain on August 31, 2015, 07:34:46 PM
Quote from: The Aristocrat on August 31, 2015, 05:52:25 PM
Quote from: Tubberman on August 31, 2015, 04:45:31 PM
Have a look at this - Connolly was the man who started with Keegan.
And O'Connor certainly does not strike Connolly.
https://t.co/IYZoJ7S73b (https://t.co/IYZoJ7S73b)
Yeah looks like Keegan grappled him to the ground, Connolly came out better, o Connor influenced the linesman who influenced the ref. That's just one incident, Keegan at him all game, reminded me of lar Corbett / Tommy Walsh affair.
Keegan gone down in my book after yesterday, thought he was better than that. Players like o Shea, Connolly, Gooch don't get enough protection.
You're certainly right about the Gooch not getting enough protection Aristo.
(http://img.thesun.co.uk/aidemitlum/archive/01801/SNE0315A---_1801042a.jpg)
Yeah I wasnt lieing, I'm not Aidan O Shea, thanks for backing up my point.
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on August 31, 2015, 07:33:14 PM
Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on August 31, 2015, 07:20:18 PM
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on August 31, 2015, 07:10:53 PM
If retrospective punishments are to be handed out then the first transgression that must be addressed is the most serious assault that occurred in the game: the dangerous assault on Rory O'Carroll.
O'Carroll was the only player who was seriously injured during the game and it was not accidental.
There cannot be any retrospective punishments without this incident being included.
Donal Vaughan got injured also. Does all players picking up an injury now have to be investigated? if there was no injury would there be an issue?
Are you serious? Vaughan injured himself while attempting a reckless tackle. O'Carroll was the victim of a very dirty assault which must be punished.
There's no way it was intentional. It's obvious why you would want a player who scored 1-10 to be suspended, but it won't happen. He was shouting at the umpire to get his attention and while waving his arms caught O'Carroll. Why the hell would he shouting to the umpire to get his attention if he wanted to elbow O'Carroll?
Interesting comments by Pat McEnaney.
http://www.balls.ie/gaa/interview-pat-mcenaney-disputes-that-philly-mcmahon-head-butted-aidan-oshea/306990
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on August 31, 2015, 07:48:28 PM
Interesting comments by Pat McEnaney.
http://www.balls.ie/gaa/interview-pat-mcenaney-disputes-that-philly-mcmahon-head-butted-aidan-oshea/306990
Everyone will be apologising now to philly, starting with the lads on this site then Aiden o Shea will come out to the media tomorrow and apologise if imagine.
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on August 31, 2015, 07:48:28 PM
Interesting comments by Pat McEnaney.
http://www.balls.ie/gaa/interview-pat-mcenaney-disputes-that-philly-mcmahon-head-butted-aidan-oshea/306990
Saying pundits confuse the issue then following it up by making out some refs would have sent Cooper off while he would have issued a yellow because he knows Cooper isn't helpful.
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on August 31, 2015, 07:48:28 PM
Interesting comments by Pat McEnaney.
http://www.balls.ie/gaa/interview-pat-mcenaney-disputes-that-philly-mcmahon-head-butted-aidan-oshea/306990
How he can say the following amazes me, but maybe it shouldn't given it's Pat McEneaney:
QuoteYes, it was borderline. It was a bit rash. Knowing Jonny Cooper, he's not that type of player. I'd say if I was refereeing the game myself, it would be still be just yellow.
It was not "a bit rash". It was dangerous, it was not in any way an attempt to tackle or play the ball - it was malicious.
And it shouldn't matter if he knows Cooper or not - what the hell relevance has that!!
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on August 31, 2015, 07:33:14 PM
Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on August 31, 2015, 07:20:18 PM
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on August 31, 2015, 07:10:53 PM
If retrospective punishments are to be handed out then the first transgression that must be addressed is the most serious assault that occurred in the game: the dangerous assault on Rory O'Carroll.
O'Carroll was the only player who was seriously injured during the game and it was not accidental.
There cannot be any retrospective punishments without this incident being included.
Donal Vaughan got injured also. Does all players picking up an injury now have to be investigated? if there was no injury would there be an issue?
Are you serious? Vaughan injured himself while attempting a reckless tackle. O'Carroll was the victim of a very dirty assault which must be punished.
How many stitches did he get again?
Quote from: Tubberman on August 31, 2015, 07:56:20 PM
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on August 31, 2015, 07:48:28 PM
Interesting comments by Pat McEnaney.
http://www.balls.ie/gaa/interview-pat-mcenaney-disputes-that-philly-mcmahon-head-butted-aidan-oshea/306990
How he can say the following amazes me, but maybe it shouldn't given it's Pat McEneaney:
QuoteYes, it was borderline. It was a bit rash. Knowing Jonny Cooper, he's not that type of player. I'd say if I was refereeing the game myself, it would be still be just yellow.
It was not "a bit rash". It was dangerous, it was not in any way an attempt to tackle or play the ball - it was malicious.
And it shouldn't matter if he knows Cooper or not - what the hell relevance has that!!
Agreed. Would put O' Connor's forearm smash on O' Carroll in exactly the same category.
if the big knobs of the GAA were serious about sorting out discipline they could introduce a video ref the same as rugby, even if its only for games in Croker to start off with. i don't think many would mind getting home a few minutes later if it meant stopping the game, having a video ref looking at a replay, at different angles and acting accordingly.
it could also be used for other decisions that the ref is not sure about. its not f**king rocket science and it needs to happen!
Quote from: The Aristocrat on August 31, 2015, 07:53:46 PM
Quote from: The Hill is Blue hlink=topic=26140.msg1508958#msg1508958 date=1441046908
Interesting comments by Pat McEnaney.
http://www.balls.ie/gaa/interview-pat-mcenaney-disputes-that-philly-mcmahon-head-butted-aidan-oshea/306990
Everyone will be apologising now to philly, starting with the lads on this site then Aiden o Shea will come out to the media tomorrow and apologise if imagine.
That your last word on this?
Quote from: The Aristocrat on August 31, 2015, 07:37:41 PM
Yeah I wasnt lieing, I'm not Aidan O Shea, thanks for backing up my point.
That's 'lying,' not 'lieing.' You're welcome.
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on August 31, 2015, 07:48:28 PM
Interesting comments by Pat McEnaney.
http://www.balls.ie/gaa/interview-pat-mcenaney-disputes-that-philly-mcmahon-head-butted-aidan-oshea/306990
Very interesting perspective. I don't think McMahon deserves a ban as there is no evidence of any contact even if there was a forward head movement. McMahons battle with O' Se was the most intriguing of the match and no quarter was asked or given. McMahon will feel vindicated for his 'in your face' antics as he held O'Se scoreless and limited his effectiveness. I would disagree with McEnaney on Cooper though. He is more or less saying no that he will decide on the card colour based on the player involved as opposed to the offence committed. That is blatantly unfair.
Cooper was responsible for this bit of trampish behaviour only two games ago.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33APZczZA54
23 mins 55 seconds in
Collapses with his knee into Heslin's chest while he is prone on the ground. Just imagine the outrage if Tyrone had a pair of corner backs like Cooper and McMahon playing for them.
It doesn't really matter if he made contact or not.
Striking or attempting to strike with the head is a category 4 offence
Big boost for Mayo ahead of the replay.
http://www.hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=243457
Quote from: Tubberman on August 31, 2015, 07:56:20 PM
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on August 31, 2015, 07:48:28 PM
Interesting comments by Pat McEnaney.
http://www.balls.ie/gaa/interview-pat-mcenaney-disputes-that-philly-mcmahon-head-butted-aidan-oshea/306990
How he can say the following amazes me, but maybe it shouldn't given it's Pat McEneaney:
QuoteYes, it was borderline. It was a bit rash. Knowing Jonny Cooper, he's not that type of player. I'd say if I was refereeing the game myself, it would be still be just yellow.
It was not "a bit rash". It was dangerous, it was not in any way an attempt to tackle or play the ball - it was malicious.
And it shouldn't matter if he knows Cooper or not - what the hell relevance has that!!
This new gay lord slow mo cam stuff makes any challenge look like murder ::)
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on August 31, 2015, 08:14:57 PM
Cooper was responsible for this bit of trampish behaviour only two games ago.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33APZczZA54
23 mins 55 seconds in
Collapses with his knee into Heslin's chest while he is prone on the ground. Just imagine the outrage if Tyrone had a pair of corner backs like Cooper and McMahon playing for them.
I think being assaulted and stabbed by a mayo man has brought out a mean streak in Cooper
Quote from: The Aristocrat on August 31, 2015, 07:53:46 PM
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on August 31, 2015, 07:48:28 PM
Interesting comments by Pat McEnaney.
http://www.balls.ie/gaa/interview-pat-mcenaney-disputes-that-philly-mcmahon-head-butted-aidan-oshea/306990
Everyone will be apologising now to philly, starting with the lads on this site then Aiden o Shea will come out to the media tomorrow and apologise if imagine.
Ok, it must he true then if Pat says so. Case closed. Sure none of us seen the incidents ourselves 100 times. Disappointed in Pat to be honest on his comments on the Cooper incident.
Thats interesting about O'Sullivan's non black card. It wasnt one because he didnt pull him to the ground?
Fair enough its not the referees fault they only implement the rules.
But the rules are wrong if thats the case, whether he pulled him to the ground or yanked him back while not making an attempt to play the ball, the result and intent are the same. Completely illogical differentiating in them this way.
But then the Black Card was passed in a wave of reactionary hysteria so hardly surprising it wasnt thought through.
Quote from: mikehunt on August 31, 2015, 08:04:12 PM
Quote from: The Aristocrat on August 31, 2015, 07:53:46 PM
Quote from: The Hill is Blue hlink=topic=26140.msg1508958#msg1508958 date=1441046908
Interesting comments by Pat McEnaney.
http://www.balls.ie/gaa/interview-pat-mcenaney-disputes-that-philly-mcmahon-head-butted-aidan-oshea/306990
Everyone will be apologising now to philly, starting with the lads on this site then Aiden o Shea will come out to the media tomorrow and apologise if imagine.
That your last word on this?
Nearly, just waiting on o Connors suspension news and might hang around to correct any slanderous and inaccurate posts.
Quote from: IolarCoisCuain on August 31, 2015, 08:05:40 PM
Quote from: The Aristocrat on August 31, 2015, 07:37:41 PM
Yeah I wasnt lieing, I'm not Aidan O Shea, thanks for backing up my point.
That's 'lying,' not 'lieing.' You're welcome.
Thanks for the correction. I was lieing there lying to myself thinking that I must have not have my spelling in order.
Quote from: The Aristocrat on August 31, 2015, 08:44:18 PM
Quote from: mikehunt on August 31, 2015, 08:04:12 PM
Quote from: The Aristocrat on August 31, 2015, 07:53:46 PM
Quote from: The Hill is Blue hlink=topic=26140.msg1508958#msg1508958 date=1441046908
Interesting comments by Pat McEnaney.
http://www.balls.ie/gaa/interview-pat-mcenaney-disputes-that-philly-mcmahon-head-butted-aidan-oshea/306990
Everyone will be apologising now to philly, starting with the lads on this site then Aiden o Shea will come out to the media tomorrow and apologise if imagine.
That your last word on this?
Nearly, just waiting on o Connors suspension news and might hang around to correct any slanderous and inaccurate posts.
Quote from: IolarCoisCuain on August 31, 2015, 08:05:40 PM
Quote from: The Aristocrat on August 31, 2015, 07:37:41 PM
Yeah I wasnt lieing, I'm not Aidan O Shea, thanks for backing up my point.
That's 'lying,' not 'lieing.' You're welcome.
Thanks for the correction. I was lieing there lying to myself thinking that I must have not have my spelling in order.
Once you have sorted your spelling, could you also look up slanderous in the dictionary? Good man.
Quote from: The Aristocrat link=topic=26140.msg150899
Nearly, just waiting on o Connors suspension news and might hang around to correct any slanderous and inaccurate posts.
So nowhere near your last post if you will be correcting inaccurate posts by yourself. Carry on then. You've a lot to catch up on.
CCCC not taking any further action. Connolly only player to be suspended
Quote from: The Aristocrat on August 31, 2015, 04:37:25 PM
Quote from: Syferus on August 31, 2015, 04:32:06 PM
Quote from: squire_in_navy_slacks on August 31, 2015, 03:55:57 PM
Quote from: The Aristocrat on August 31, 2015, 03:53:08 PM
Proof that Philly Mc did not headbutt O Shea, only leaned his head towards him, no contact made, slow it down if you like:
https://twitter.com/DubMatchTracker?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor
Brilliant footage, Philly did an excellent job all day on OShea, what a snakes manoeuvre by OShea
McMahon was acting the maggot yesterday. Fouling all day and never had a proper grasp on AOS even with two men backing him up at all times.
He held his face as if AOS had raked him across the eyes when they collided accidentally in the second half even though the replay showed AOS never touched McMahon's face with his hand. The ref had to get the linesman in before he knew there was nothing in it.
Not accurate, how many fouls did McMahon give away, I watched both closely, Philly had him under raps and O Shea who is meant to be the best player in the country didn't get much of a sniff of him. O Shea was acting the maggot in that incident you refer too. A lot of the Mayo team know how to play up to the officials.
Medic!
Quote from: Tubberman on August 31, 2015, 08:58:23 PM
CCCC not taking any further action. Connolly only player to be suspended
Good sense prevails. They mustn't had Journalists phoning them demanding action this time.
Either that or they did and grew a set of balls in the meantime.
Quote from: Tubberman on August 31, 2015, 08:58:23 PM
CCCC not taking any further action. Connolly only player to be suspended
If correct then why try this a few weeks ago with McCann?
The Cooper incident was terrible and while it has to be accepted that the referee dealt with this at the time, there was no dealing with the head butting incident.
Pat McEnaney should not administer the penalties based on player knowledge - it should be based on the actions in the present!
To feign an injury will result in retrospective investigation / penalty, but to head butt - as long as undetected at the time is fine? Just waiting on the Tyrone contingent to whinge again 😀😀
Quote from: Tubberman on August 31, 2015, 08:58:23 PM
CCCC not taking any further action. Connolly only player to be suspended
Right Indiana time to get on the phone to your contacts in the CCCC . . .
The stars are aligning for Mayo. Disbelief that O Connor has not been suspended. The CCCC can make up for it they will and should let Connolly off on appeal . Review of CCCC for next year, not fulfilling its purpose, o Connor is free to tap 20 yard frees over the bar now that the ref will give him easily the next day.
Quote from: Estimator on August 31, 2015, 08:52:22 PM
Quote from: The Aristocrat on August 31, 2015, 08:44:18 PM
Quote from: mikehunt on August 31, 2015, 08:04:12 PM
Quote from: The Aristocrat on August 31, 2015, 07:53:46 PM
Quote from: The Hill is Blue hlink=topic=26140.msg1508958#msg1508958 date=1441046908
Interesting comments by Pat McEnaney.
http://www.balls.ie/gaa/interview-pat-mcenaney-disputes-that-philly-mcmahon-head-butted-aidan-oshea/306990
Everyone will be apologising now to philly, starting with the lads on this site then Aiden o Shea will come out to the media tomorrow and apologise if imagine.
That your last word on this?
Nearly, just waiting on o Connors suspension news and might hang around to correct any slanderous and inaccurate posts.
Quote from: IolarCoisCuain on August 31, 2015, 08:05:40 PM
Quote from: The Aristocrat on August 31, 2015, 07:37:41 PM
Yeah I wasnt lieing, I'm not Aidan O Shea, thanks for backing up my point.
That's 'lying,' not 'lieing.' You're welcome.
Thanks for the correction. I was lieing there lying to myself thinking that I must have not have my spelling in order.
Once you have sorted your spelling, could you also look up slanderous in the dictionary? Good man.
Leave it out man, its the auto spell on my phone ;)
On what grounds will Connolly contest the red card? Or is it going to be contested?
He can hardly go in to a hearing and say. 'well a bloke got off last week for getting a red and so should I'?
Or can he?
Quote from: The Aristocrat on August 31, 2015, 09:21:37 PM
The stars are aligning for Mayo. Disbelief that O Connor has not been suspended. The CCCC can make up for it they will and should let Connolly off on appeal . Review of CCCC for next year, not fulfilling its purpose, o Connor is free to tap 20 yard frees over the bar now that the ref will give him easily the next day.
Disbelief that based on the video there would be a case to answer - as someone said previously it seemed fairly innocuous and the instigator was ROC.
Are Dublin really that scared of Cillian O'Connor? If they concede the frees then the free taker will prosper - another solution - don't concede the frees - surely that is the way to deal with it?
Quote from: moysider on August 31, 2015, 09:23:48 PM
On what grounds will Connolly contest the red card? Or is it going to be contested?
He can hardly go in to a hearing and say. 'well a bloke got off last week for getting a red and so should I'?
Or can he?
How can the assault on O'Carroll go unpunished?
Or can it?
Quote from: moysider on August 31, 2015, 09:23:48 PM
On what grounds will Connolly contest the red card? Or is it going to be contested?
He can hardly go in to a hearing and say. 'well a bloke got off last week for getting a red and so should I'?
Or can he?
He'll use the same defence, that there wasn't sufficient evidence of a clear strike.
Keane should never have got off, so Dublin will be hoping for a repeat. But there's absolutely no telling what the CCCC will do.
Quote from: Red eye on August 31, 2015, 09:26:15 PM
Quote from: The Aristocrat on August 31, 2015, 09:21:37 PM
The stars are aligning for Mayo. Disbelief that O Connor has not been suspended. The CCCC can make up for it they will and should let Connolly off on appeal . Review of CCCC for next year, not fulfilling its purpose, o Connor is free to tap 20 yard frees over the bar now that the ref will give him easily the next day.
Disbelief that based on the video there would be a case to answer - as someone said previously it seemed fairly innocuous and the instigator was ROC.
Are Dublin really that scared of Cillian O'Connor? If they concede the frees then the free taker will prosper - another solution - don't concede the frees - surely that is the way to deal with it?
Most overated player in the country, with the amount of easy frees Mayo got in front of the post, soft and diving frees, even I would had scored 1 , say 1-06! Afraid no. what he did was dangerous and wild. As I said if they let Connolly off it will even if up and we will have a cracker on Saturday.
O Shea has a lot to answer for too, top bloke and player but caught out now with a little fib to the media, probably told to say it my the Mayo (laughs) co managers. Shouldn't be forgotten next week.
Dubs seem very concerned about getting O'Connor suspended. Common sense has prevailed and I think the Dubs are rattled.
One thing that has not been mentioned is the Dubs fadeout in the last ten minutes, they were out on their feet and the game was not played at a pace that would justify this, the thing is they totally faded out against Fermanagh in the last ten as well and I am fairly sure that there is a fitness question over this Dublin team, Mayos tactics should be go at it at full pace from the off next Saturday, I think the dubs will be found out next Saturday and Mayo will win with a bit to spare.
Quote from: Red eye on August 31, 2015, 09:26:15 PM
Quote from: The Aristocrat on August 31, 2015, 09:21:37 PM
The stars are aligning for Mayo. Disbelief that O Connor has not been suspended. The CCCC can make up for it they will and should let Connolly off on appeal . Review of CCCC for next year, not fulfilling its purpose, o Connor is free to tap 20 yard frees over the bar now that the ref will give him easily the next day.
Disbelief that based on the video there would be a case to answer - as someone said previously it seemed fairly innocuous and the instigator was ROC.
Are Dublin really that scared of Cillian O'Connor? If they concede the frees then the free taker will prosper - another solution - don't concede the frees - surely that is the way to deal with it?
The assault on O'Carroll "seemed innocuous"?? The results certainly weren't "innocuous".
Quote from: giveballaghback on August 31, 2015, 09:33:22 PM
I think the dubs will be found out next Saturday and Mayo will win with a bit to spare.
That's what I like to hear.
Quote from: The Aristocrat on August 31, 2015, 09:32:42 PM
Quote from: Red eye on August 31, 2015, 09:26:15 PM
Quote from: The Aristocrat on August 31, 2015, 09:21:37 PM
The stars are aligning for Mayo. Disbelief that O Connor has not been suspended. The CCCC can make up for it they will and should let Connolly off on appeal . Review of CCCC for next year, not fulfilling its purpose, o Connor is free to tap 20 yard frees over the bar now that the ref will give him easily the next day.
Disbelief that based on the video there would be a case to answer - as someone said previously it seemed fairly innocuous and the instigator was ROC.
Are Dublin really that scared of Cillian O'Connor? If they concede the frees then the free taker will prosper - another solution - don't concede the frees - surely that is the way to deal with it?
Most overated player in the country, with the amount of easy frees Mayo got in front of the post, soft and diving frees, even I would had scored 1 , say 1-06! Afraid no. what he did was dangerous and wild. As I said if they let Connolly off it will even if up and we will have a cracker on Saturday.
O Shea has a lot to answer for too, top bloke and player but caught out now with a little fib to the media, probably told to say it my the Mayo (laughs) co managers. Shouldn't be forgotten next week.
Likewise D Hughes but sure no one has batted an eyelid at it
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Quote from: giveballaghback on August 31, 2015, 09:33:22 PM
I think the dubs will be found out next Saturday and Mayo will win with a bit to spare.
That's what I like to hear.
Why would a Roscommon lads opinion matter to you?
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Quote from: Red eye on August 31, 2015, 09:26:15 PM
Quote from: The Aristocrat on August 31, 2015, 09:21:37 PM
The stars are aligning for Mayo. Disbelief that O Connor has not been suspended. The CCCC can make up for it they will and should let Connolly off on appeal . Review of CCCC for next year, not fulfilling its purpose, o Connor is free to tap 20 yard frees over the bar now that the ref will give him easily the next day.
Disbelief that based on the video there would be a case to answer - as someone said previously it seemed fairly innocuous and the instigator was ROC.
Are Dublin really that scared of Cillian O'Connor? If they concede the frees then the free taker will prosper - another solution - don't concede the frees - surely that is the way to deal with it?
The assault on O'Carroll "seemed innocuous"?? The results certainly weren't "innocuous".
Just remember you're dealing with a lot of rubber heads on this website. You have to factor that in.
The schooling system up North isn't what it was. It was better when the Brits were looking after it.
http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/dublin-set-to-be-without-diarmuid-connolly-for-replay-with-mayo-1.2335417
No other actions to be taken
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Quote from: The Hill is Blue on August 31, 2015, 09:37:03 PM
Quote from: giveballaghback on August 31, 2015, 09:33:22 PM
I think the dubs will be found out next Saturday and Mayo will win with a bit to spare.
That's what I like to hear.
Why would a Roscommon lads opinion matter to you?
We're not .
Roscommon is one of those places you can drive blissfully through and never feel the urge to stop off anywhere.
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on August 31, 2015, 09:33:40 PM
Quote from: Red eye on August 31, 2015, 09:26:15 PM
Quote from: The Aristocrat on August 31, 2015, 09:21:37 PM
The stars are aligning for Mayo. Disbelief that O Connor has not been suspended. The CCCC can make up for it they will and should let Connolly off on appeal . Review of CCCC for next year, not fulfilling its purpose, o Connor is free to tap 20 yard frees over the bar now that the ref will give him easily the next day.
Disbelief that based on the video there would be a case to answer - as someone said previously it seemed fairly innocuous and the instigator was ROC.
Are Dublin really that scared of Cillian O'Connor? If they concede the frees then the free taker will prosper - another solution - don't concede the frees - surely that is the way to deal with it?
The assault on O'Carroll "seemed innocuous"?? The results certainly weren't "innocuous".
The wheels are in motion to get Dermo off. It will be ironic that it will be a Mayo man who clears him!
Quote from: INDIANA on August 31, 2015, 09:42:17 PM
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on August 31, 2015, 09:33:40 PM
Quote from: Red eye on August 31, 2015, 09:26:15 PM
Quote from: The Aristocrat on August 31, 2015, 09:21:37 PM
The stars are aligning for Mayo. Disbelief that O Connor has not been suspended. The CCCC can make up for it they will and should let Connolly off on appeal . Review of CCCC for next year, not fulfilling its purpose, o Connor is free to tap 20 yard frees over the bar now that the ref will give him easily the next day.
Disbelief that based on the video there would be a case to answer - as someone said previously it seemed fairly innocuous and the instigator was ROC.
Are Dublin really that scared of Cillian O'Connor? If they concede the frees then the free taker will prosper - another solution - don't concede the frees - surely that is the way to deal with it?
The assault on O'Carroll "seemed innocuous"?? The results certainly weren't "innocuous".
Just remember you're dealing with a lot of rubber heads on this website. You have to factor that in.
The schooling system up North isn't what it was. It was better when the Brits were looking after it.
Should you not too busy using all that clout you have to get dublin players off and mayo players suspended? ;D
Quote from: INDIANA on August 31, 2015, 07:09:17 PM
New footage of the Connolly incident putting a different light on things. He'll get off i'd say
Yesterday you were c**k sure Connolly would get away with it.
Why should Connolly get off?
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 31, 2015, 09:46:07 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on August 31, 2015, 09:42:17 PM
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on August 31, 2015, 09:33:40 PM
Quote from: Red eye on August 31, 2015, 09:26:15 PM
Quote from: The Aristocrat on August 31, 2015, 09:21:37 PM
The stars are aligning for Mayo. Disbelief that O Connor has not been suspended. The CCCC can make up for it they will and should let Connolly off on appeal . Review of CCCC for next year, not fulfilling its purpose, o Connor is free to tap 20 yard frees over the bar now that the ref will give him easily the next day.
Disbelief that based on the video there would be a case to answer - as someone said previously it seemed fairly innocuous and the instigator was ROC.
Are Dublin really that scared of Cillian O'Connor? If they concede the frees then the free taker will prosper - another solution - don't concede the frees - surely that is the way to deal with it?
The assault on O'Carroll "seemed innocuous"?? The results certainly weren't "innocuous".
Just remember you're dealing with a lot of rubber heads on this website. You have to factor that in.
The schooling system up North isn't what it was. It was better when the Brits were looking after it.
Should you not too busy using all that clout you have to get dublin players off and mayo players suspended? ;D
You don't think getting Dermo off will be a good result?
Mayo didn't pursue Mc Mahon because it would have forced the CCC to revisit COC.
Quote from: Farrandeelin on August 31, 2015, 09:51:36 PM
Why should Connolly get off?
So that he can carry out the threats he made leaving the pitch.
Quote from: Farrandeelin on August 31, 2015, 09:51:36 PM
Why should Connolly get off?
Because Keegan hit him first. Clearly seen on the video.
And you can see hitman COC coming in to hit Dermo when he's on the ground. Brave man is Cillian.
Thing is when you go around acting the hard man it's usually advisable not to be playing the same opposition the following week
Quote from: yellowcard on August 31, 2015, 09:33:04 PM
Dubs seem very concerned about getting O'Connor suspended. Common sense has prevailed and I think the Dubs are rattled.
Without him Mayo might manage eight or nine points and de dubs would be free to gouge their way through the match safe in the knowledge that they were up against a forward line as potent as a eunuch.
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Quote from: Red eye on August 31, 2015, 09:26:15 PM
Quote from: The Aristocrat on August 31, 2015, 09:21:37 PM
The stars are aligning for Mayo. Disbelief that O Connor has not been suspended. The CCCC can make up for it they will and should let Connolly off on appeal . Review of CCCC for next year, not fulfilling its purpose, o Connor is free to tap 20 yard frees over the bar now that the ref will give him easily the next day.
Disbelief that based on the video there would be a case to answer - as someone said previously it seemed fairly innocuous and the instigator was ROC.
Are Dublin really that scared of Cillian O'Connor? If they concede the frees then the free taker will prosper - another solution - don't concede the frees - surely that is the way to deal with it?
The assault on O'Carroll "seemed innocuous"?? The results certainly weren't "innocuous".
Just remember you're dealing with a lot of rubber heads on this website. You have to factor that in.
The schooling system up North isn't what it was. It was better when the Brits were looking after it.
Should you not too busy using all that clout you have to get dublin players off and mayo players suspended? ;D
You don't think getting Dermo off will be a good result?
Mayo didn't pursue Mc Mahon because it would have forced the CCC to revisit COC.
It's not the opposing counties that hand out the suspensions! How would they have persued him!? You guys are deluded
Quote from: INDIANA on August 31, 2015, 09:54:43 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on August 31, 2015, 09:51:36 PM
Why should Connolly get off?
Because Keegan hit him first. Clearly seen on the video.
And you can see hitman COC coming in to hit Dermo when he's on the ground. Brave man is Cillian.
Thing is when you go around acting the hard man it's usually advisable not to be playing the same opposition the following week
I posted a link a couple.of pages back to a video which shows Connolly hit Keegan first, and Cillian did not hit him at any stage. So you can withdraw those statements when you've realised you've been spouting nonsense
Quote from: INDIANA on August 31, 2015, 09:45:04 PM
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on August 31, 2015, 09:33:40 PM
Quote from: Red eye on August 31, 2015, 09:26:15 PM
Quote from: The Aristocrat on August 31, 2015, 09:21:37 PM
The stars are aligning for Mayo. Disbelief that O Connor has not been suspended. The CCCC can make up for it they will and should let Connolly off on appeal . Review of CCCC for next year, not fulfilling its purpose, o Connor is free to tap 20 yard frees over the bar now that the ref will give him easily the next day.
Disbelief that based on the video there would be a case to answer - as someone said previously it seemed fairly innocuous and the instigator was ROC.
Are Dublin really that scared of Cillian O'Connor? If they concede the frees then the free taker will prosper - another solution - don't concede the frees - surely that is the way to deal with it?
The assault on O'Carroll "seemed innocuous"?? The results certainly weren't "innocuous".
The wheels are in motion to get Dermo off. It will be ironic that it will be a Mayo man who clears him!
It won t be ironic at all. I don t think Keane's case ( if that is indeed what you are referring to) will have any bearing on this case.
Every case is judged on its own merits. What will Connolly's defence be?
Keegan got away on a technicality last year. Connolly did before I think. Unless McQuillan messed up his report hard to see how he walks. Mind you it won t bother me if he is cleared to play. Best of luck to him if he beats the rap.
How many stitches did Keegan need after he was "assaulted". According to reports O'Carroll needed ten or eleven stitches.
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on August 31, 2015, 09:58:54 PM
According to reports O'Carroll needed ten or eleven stitches.
BREAKING NEWS! STOP PRESS!
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on August 31, 2015, 09:58:54 PM
How many stitches did Keegan need after he was "assaulted". According to reports O'Carroll needed ten or eleven stitches.
if no stitches would it have been ok?
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on August 31, 2015, 09:58:54 PM
How many stitches did Keegan need after he was "assaulted". According to reports O'Carroll needed ten or eleven stitches.
Twas 13 yesterday
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Quote from: INDIANA on August 31, 2015, 09:45:04 PM
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on August 31, 2015, 09:33:40 PM
Quote from: Red eye on August 31, 2015, 09:26:15 PM
Quote from: The Aristocrat on August 31, 2015, 09:21:37 PM
The stars are aligning for Mayo. Disbelief that O Connor has not been suspended. The CCCC can make up for it they will and should let Connolly off on appeal . Review of CCCC for next year, not fulfilling its purpose, o Connor is free to tap 20 yard frees over the bar now that the ref will give him easily the next day.
Disbelief that based on the video there would be a case to answer - as someone said previously it seemed fairly innocuous and the instigator was ROC.
Are Dublin really that scared of Cillian O'Connor? If they concede the frees then the free taker will prosper - another solution - don't concede the frees - surely that is the way to deal with it?
The assault on O'Carroll "seemed innocuous"?? The results certainly weren't "innocuous".
The wheels are in motion to get Dermo off. It will be ironic that it will be a Mayo man who clears him!
It won t be ironic at all. I don t think Keane's case ( if that is indeed what you are referring to) will have any bearing on this case.
Every case is judged on its own merits. What will Connolly's defence be?
Keegan got away on a technicality last year. Connolly did before I think. Unless McQuillan messed up his report hard to see how he walks. Mind you it won t bother me if he is cleared to play. Best of luck to him if he beats the rap.
Wonder if he will regret the threats he issued when leaving the field. To me if the CCCC take that into account, there's no way they can clear him to play nex week
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on August 31, 2015, 09:58:54 PM
How many stitches did Keegan need after he was "assaulted". According to reports O'Carroll needed ten or eleven stitches.
Did Aidan O'Shea and Cillian O'Connor assault each other in the semi final replay last year? Cillian had to get stitches I think, so he must have been assaulted
Quote from: Tubberman on August 31, 2015, 09:58:00 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on August 31, 2015, 09:54:43 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on August 31, 2015, 09:51:36 PM
Why should Connolly get off?
Because Keegan hit him first. Clearly seen on the video.
And you can see hitman COC coming in to hit Dermo when he's on the ground. Brave man is Cillian.
Thing is when you go around acting the hard man it's usually advisable not to be playing the same opposition the following week
I posted a link a couple.of pages back to a video which shows Connolly hit Keegan first, and Cillian did not hit him at any stage. So you can withdraw those statements when you've realised you've been spouting nonsense
Ah come on Tubberman, surely you have read enough of Indiana's posts by now to realise that facts and real life play a very small part in his ramblings!
Quote from: Tubberman on August 31, 2015, 09:58:00 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on August 31, 2015, 09:54:43 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on August 31, 2015, 09:51:36 PM
Why should Connolly get off?
Because Keegan hit him first. Clearly seen on the video.
And you can see hitman COC coming in to hit Dermo when he's on the ground. Brave man is Cillian.
Thing is when you go around acting the hard man it's usually advisable not to be playing the same opposition the following week
I posted a link a couple.of pages back to a video which shows Connolly hit Keegan first, and Cillian did not hit him at any stage. So you can withdraw those statements when you've realised you've been spouting nonsense
Look at it again, Keegan throws first slap. It's on social media and Joe.ie stating Keegan threw the first slap just after Connolly kicks a pass and is blocked from making a run
It's all coming out now, crying to the media.
Quote from: muppet on August 31, 2015, 09:53:06 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on August 31, 2015, 09:51:36 PM
Why should Connolly get off?
So that he can carry out the threats he made leaving the pitch.
I don't think it was threats it was more "your a dirty rotten weeny oconnor" that's all
Quote from: INDIANA on August 31, 2015, 09:54:43 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on August 31, 2015, 09:51:36 PM
Why should Connolly get off?
Because Keegan hit him first. Clearly seen on the video.
And you can see hitman COC coming in to hit Dermo when he's on the ground. Brave man is Cillian.
Thing is when you go around acting the hard man it's usually advisable not to be playing the same opposition the following week
Is this the same Dermo who pushed the same Cillians head into the ground twice in another passage of play? Brave boy as you'd say
There's a few Dublin posters, with yourself as captain making clowns of yourselves at this stage. It's enjoyable to read right enough
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on August 31, 2015, 09:33:40 PM
Quote from: Red eye on August 31, 2015, 09:26:15 PM
Quote from: The Aristocrat on August 31, 2015, 09:21:37 PM
The stars are aligning for Mayo. Disbelief that O Connor has not been suspended. The CCCC can make up for it they will and should let Connolly off on appeal . Review of CCCC for next year, not fulfilling its purpose, o Connor is free to tap 20 yard frees over the bar now that the ref will give him easily the next day.
Disbelief that based on the video there would be a case to answer - as someone said previously it seemed fairly innocuous and the instigator was ROC.
Are Dublin really that scared of Cillian O'Connor? If they concede the frees then the free taker will prosper - another solution - don't concede the frees - surely that is the way to deal with it?
The assault on O'Carroll "seemed innocuous"?? The results certainly weren't "innocuous".
What were the results?
How is the shoe shine boy getting on .....? Hard man Donal Vaughan ?
Quote from: moysider on August 31, 2015, 09:58:34 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on August 31, 2015, 09:45:04 PM
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Quote from: Red eye on August 31, 2015, 09:26:15 PM
Quote from: The Aristocrat on August 31, 2015, 09:21:37 PM
The stars are aligning for Mayo. Disbelief that O Connor has not been suspended. The CCCC can make up for it they will and should let Connolly off on appeal . Review of CCCC for next year, not fulfilling its purpose, o Connor is free to tap 20 yard frees over the bar now that the ref will give him easily the next day.
Disbelief that based on the video there would be a case to answer - as someone said previously it seemed fairly innocuous and the instigator was ROC.
Are Dublin really that scared of Cillian O'Connor? If they concede the frees then the free taker will prosper - another solution - don't concede the frees - surely that is the way to deal with it?
The assault on O'Carroll "seemed innocuous"?? The results certainly weren't "innocuous".
The wheels are in motion to get Dermo off. It will be ironic that it will be a Mayo man who clears him!
It won t be ironic at all. I don t think Keane's case ( if that is indeed what you are referring to) will have any bearing on this case.
Every case is judged on its own merits. What will Connolly's defence be?
Keegan got away on a technicality last year. Connolly did before I think. Unless McQuillan messed up his report hard to see how he walks. Mind you it won t bother me if he is cleared to play. Best of luck to him if he beats the rap.
Do you really believe this - cause I don't. Because of precedent and in particular because Mayo were involved(Keane) they'll leave no stone unturned to let him off. At this stage the whole discipline side of things is such a farce anyway I'd prefer if both teams were at full strength and let the best team win.
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Quote from: muppet on August 31, 2015, 09:53:06 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on August 31, 2015, 09:51:36 PM
Why should Connolly get off?
So that he can carry out the threats he made leaving the pitch.
I don't think it was threats it was more "your a dirty rotten weeny oconnor" that's all
Quote from: The Aristocrat on August 31, 2015, 10:03:13 PM
Quote from: Tubberman on August 31, 2015, 09:58:00 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on August 31, 2015, 09:54:43 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on August 31, 2015, 09:51:36 PM
Why should Connolly get off?
Because Keegan hit him first. Clearly seen on the video.
And you can see hitman COC coming in to hit Dermo when he's on the ground. Brave man is Cillian.
Thing is when you go around acting the hard man it's usually advisable not to be playing the same opposition the following week
I posted a link a couple.of pages back to a video which shows Connolly hit Keegan first, and Cillian did not hit him at any stage. So you can withdraw those statements when you've realised you've been spouting nonsense
Look at it again, Keegan throws first slap. It's on social media and Joe.ie stating Keegan threw the first slap just after Connolly kicks a pass and is blocked from making a run
It's all coming out now, crying to the media.
Keegan pushes him off as Connolly is running by, he doesn't throw a slap. Where does Cillian hit him?
Cilian hits him a dig in the rib area when he is on the ground, it's there indeed
28 posts from one simpleton on here recycling the same old nonsense.
COC certainly has a dark side to him but like most other neutrals I don't think yesterday's actions warrants a ban.
It's not the first time Keegan has got involved in a wrestling match, he was involved twice in the match against Galway.
As clear as day, can't believe you can't see it, not being smart but maybe you don't want too see it.Connolly will and rightley so get off and then we will have another cracker lads, only right and honourable thing left to do by the CCCC.
Quote from: The Aristocrat on August 31, 2015, 10:12:28 PM
As clear as day, can't believe you can't see it, not being smart but maybe you don't want too see it.Connolly will and rightley so get off and then we will have another cracker lads, only right and honourable thing left to do by the CCCC.
Not so sure dude, hopefully though..................here's to letting Tomas Brady loose if Connolly gets rode by the cccc
Quote from: The Aristocrat on August 31, 2015, 10:03:13 PM
Quote from: Tubberman on August 31, 2015, 09:58:00 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on August 31, 2015, 09:54:43 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on August 31, 2015, 09:51:36 PM
Why should Connolly get off?
Because Keegan hit him first. Clearly seen on the video.
And you can see hitman COC coming in to hit Dermo when he's on the ground. Brave man is Cillian.
Thing is when you go around acting the hard man it's usually advisable not to be playing the same opposition the following week
I posted a link a couple.of pages back to a video which shows Connolly hit Keegan first, and Cillian did not hit him at any stage. So you can withdraw those statements when you've realised you've been spouting nonsense
Look at it again, Keegan throws first slap. It's on social media and Joe.ie stating Keegan threw the first slap just after Connolly kicks a pass and is blocked from making a run
It's all coming out now, crying to the media.
Ye're the ones crying baby ;)
If you think Connolly is going to get off because he ll claim the other guy started it you haven t a clue.
Connolly's assault a lesser version of incident below. Repeatedly hitting an opponent who is in no position to defend himself. Connolly was similarly out of control and if he wasn t stopped could be looking at a long ban indeed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tz428AaGzoA
So Connolly punches twice and he gets off?
Quote from: Farrandeelin on August 31, 2015, 10:17:45 PM
So Connolly punches twice and he gets off?
Who said he's getting off?
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Quote from: The Aristocrat on August 31, 2015, 10:03:13 PM
Quote from: Tubberman on August 31, 2015, 09:58:00 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on August 31, 2015, 09:54:43 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on August 31, 2015, 09:51:36 PM
Why should Connolly get off?
Because Keegan hit him first. Clearly seen on the video.
And you can see hitman COC coming in to hit Dermo when he's on the ground. Brave man is Cillian.
Thing is when you go around acting the hard man it's usually advisable not to be playing the same opposition the following week
I posted a link a couple.of pages back to a video which shows Connolly hit Keegan first, and Cillian did not hit him at any stage. So you can withdraw those statements when you've realised you've been spouting nonsense
Look at it again, Keegan throws first slap. It's on social media and Joe.ie stating Keegan threw the first slap just after Connolly kicks a pass and is blocked from making a run
It's all coming out now, crying to the media.
Ye're the ones crying baby ;)
If you think Connolly is going to get off because he ll claim the other guy started it you haven t a clue.
Connolly's assault a lesser version of incident below. Repeatedly hitting an opponent who is in no position to defend himself. Connolly was similarly out of control and if he wasn t stopped could be looking at a long ban indeed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tz428AaGzoA
Your clutching at straws now posting videos of that Neanderthals sport ................. I'm hearing rumours of a gouge from choir boy keegan
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Quote from: Red eye on August 31, 2015, 09:26:15 PM
Quote from: The Aristocrat on August 31, 2015, 09:21:37 PM
The stars are aligning for Mayo. Disbelief that O Connor has not been suspended. The CCCC can make up for it they will and should let Connolly off on appeal . Review of CCCC for next year, not fulfilling its purpose, o Connor is free to tap 20 yard frees over the bar now that the ref will give him easily the next day.
Disbelief that based on the video there would be a case to answer - as someone said previously it seemed fairly innocuous and the instigator was ROC.
Are Dublin really that scared of Cillian O'Connor? If they concede the frees then the free taker will prosper - another solution - don't concede the frees - surely that is the way to deal with it?
The assault on O'Carroll "seemed innocuous"?? The results certainly weren't "innocuous".
The wheels are in motion to get Dermo off. It will be ironic that it will be a Mayo man who clears him!
It won t be ironic at all. I don t think Keane's case ( if that is indeed what you are referring to) will have any bearing on this case.
Every case is judged on its own merits. What will Connolly's defence be?
Keegan got away on a technicality last year. Connolly did before I think. Unless McQuillan messed up his report hard to see how he walks. Mind you it won t bother me if he is cleared to play. Best of luck to him if he beats the rap.
Do you really believe this - cause I don't. Because of precedent and in particular because Mayo were involved(Keane) they'll leave no stone unturned to let him off. At this stage the whole discipline side of things is such a farce anyway I'd prefer if both teams were at full strength and let the best team win.
Course I believe that.
Quote from: Farrandeelin on August 31, 2015, 10:17:45 PM
So Connolly punches twice and he gets off?
Aidan told independent reporters that Philly tried to give him a reach around too :P :P
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Quote from: The Aristocrat on August 31, 2015, 10:03:13 PM
Quote from: Tubberman on August 31, 2015, 09:58:00 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on August 31, 2015, 09:54:43 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on August 31, 2015, 09:51:36 PM
Why should Connolly get off?
Because Keegan hit him first. Clearly seen on the video.
And you can see hitman COC coming in to hit Dermo when he's on the ground. Brave man is Cillian.
Thing is when you go around acting the hard man it's usually advisable not to be playing the same opposition the following week
I posted a link a couple.of pages back to a video which shows Connolly hit Keegan first, and Cillian did not hit him at any stage. So you can withdraw those statements when you've realised you've been spouting nonsense
Look at it again, Keegan throws first slap. It's on social media and Joe.ie stating Keegan threw the first slap just after Connolly kicks a pass and is blocked from making a run
It's all coming out now, crying to the media.
Ye're the ones crying baby ;)
If you think Connolly is going to get off because he ll claim the other guy started it you haven t a clue.
Connolly's assault a lesser version of incident below. Repeatedly hitting an opponent who is in no position to defend himself. Connolly was similarly out of control and if he wasn t stopped could be looking at a long ban indeed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tz428AaGzoA
I don't recognise that sport but not even in the same radius as Keegan's/Connolly, both got up and made nothing of it until o Connor influenced the linesman. He won't get off because of that alone but video evidence plus the CCCC have no choice ala Keane who struck twice to the face , Connolly/ Keegan's is a much lesser offence, handbags.
100 pager coming up.
And another week at least to go.
Draw after extra time next week will put the pressure on. ;)
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Why should Connolly get off?
Because Keegan hit him first. Clearly seen on the video.
And you can see hitman COC coming in to hit Dermo when he's on the ground. Brave man is Cillian.
Thing is when you go around acting the hard man it's usually advisable not to be playing the same opposition the following week
I posted a link a couple.of pages back to a video which shows Connolly hit Keegan first, and Cillian did not hit him at any stage. So you can withdraw those statements when you've realised you've been spouting nonsense
Look at it again, Keegan throws first slap. It's on social media and Joe.ie stating Keegan threw the first slap just after Connolly kicks a pass and is blocked from making a run
It's all coming out now, crying to the media.
Ye're the ones crying baby ;)
If you think Connolly is going to get off because he ll claim the other guy started it you haven t a clue.
Connolly's assault a lesser version of incident below. Repeatedly hitting an opponent who is in no position to defend himself. Connolly was similarly out of control and if he wasn t stopped could be looking at a long ban indeed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tz428AaGzoA
Your clutching at straws now posting videos of that Neanderthals sport ................. I'm hearing rumours of a gouge from choir boy keegan
Some fella told you that when u were out for a smoke? Well haul Keegan in before the CCCC so, and bring Anto in to give his testimony
Quote from: orangeman on August 31, 2015, 10:22:32 PM
100 pager coming up.
And another week at least to go.
Draw after extra time next week will put the pressure on. ;)
I can foresee a 250 job here
I haven't been reading back but on what grounds could Connolly possibly get off ?
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Quote from: moysider on August 31, 2015, 10:15:25 PM
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Quote from: Tubberman on August 31, 2015, 09:58:00 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on August 31, 2015, 09:54:43 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on August 31, 2015, 09:51:36 PM
Why should Connolly get off?
Because Keegan hit him first. Clearly seen on the video.
And you can see hitman COC coming in to hit Dermo when he's on the ground. Brave man is Cillian.
Thing is when you go around acting the hard man it's usually advisable not to be playing the same opposition the following week
I posted a link a couple.of pages back to a video which shows Connolly hit Keegan first, and Cillian did not hit him at any stage. So you can withdraw those statements when you've realised you've been spouting nonsense
Look at it again, Keegan throws first slap. It's on social media and Joe.ie stating Keegan threw the first slap just after Connolly kicks a pass and is blocked from making a run
It's all coming out now, crying to the media.
Ye're the ones crying baby ;)
If you think Connolly is going to get off because he ll claim the other guy started it you haven t a clue.
Connolly's assault a lesser version of incident below. Repeatedly hitting an opponent who is in no position to defend himself. Connolly was similarly out of control and if he wasn t stopped could be looking at a long ban indeed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tz428AaGzoA
Your clutching at straws now posting videos of that Neanderthals sport ................. I'm hearing rumours of a gouge from choir boy keegan
But sure twas O'Shea who gouged ROC and he then needed 47 stitches! Were you not reading this last night lads?
I don't particularly mind the Dubs but lads you've lost the plot with this one. I'm just glass to see that it doesn't matter what team gets up to aul shite it should be highlighted and Dubs behaviour yesterday was poor.
Along with that there has been very little talk of the total capitulation out there yesterday. . . rather than worrying about video evidence and CCC's maybe try and find a reason why you didn't win that game!!
Money talks and the GAA make most of their money from Dublin matches. Dubs know this and their constant thuggery over the years goes unpunished. Connolly will win his appeal and we will have to listen to two weeks anality about the great dublin kerry battles in the 70's.
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Quote from: Farrandeelin on August 31, 2015, 09:51:36 PM
Why should Connolly get off?
Because Keegan hit him first. Clearly seen on the video.
And you can see hitman COC coming in to hit Dermo when he's on the ground. Brave man is Cillian.
Thing is when you go around acting the hard man it's usually advisable not to be playing the same opposition the following week
I posted a link a couple.of pages back to a video which shows Connolly hit Keegan first, and Cillian did not hit him at any stage. So you can withdraw those statements when you've realised you've been spouting nonsense
Look at it again, Keegan throws first slap. It's on social media and Joe.ie stating Keegan threw the first slap just after Connolly kicks a pass and is blocked from making a run
It's all coming out now, crying to the media.
Ye're the ones crying baby ;)
If you think Connolly is going to get off because he ll claim the other guy started it you haven t a clue.
Connolly's assault a lesser version of incident below. Repeatedly hitting an opponent who is in no position to defend himself. Connolly was similarly out of control and if he wasn t stopped could be looking at a long ban indeed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tz428AaGzoA
Your clutching at straws now posting videos of that Neanderthals sport ................. I'm hearing rumours of a gouge from choir boy keegan
Some fella told you that when u were out for a smoke? Well haul Keegan in before the CCCC so, and bring Anto in to give his testimony
Don't smoke or don't drink, chicken sambo and tea on the day :-*
I think most dubs will hold their hands up and say yes Connolly is gone the next day but yer lot haven't the bollox to admit that Keegan and OConnor had a massive part to play in it ........ They should just hand oconnor a whistle and set of cards for the next day such is his interference with refereeing
Quote from: The Aristocrat on August 31, 2015, 10:21:22 PM
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Quote from: Tubberman on August 31, 2015, 09:58:00 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on August 31, 2015, 09:54:43 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on August 31, 2015, 09:51:36 PM
Why should Connolly get off?
Because Keegan hit him first. Clearly seen on the video.
And you can see hitman COC coming in to hit Dermo when he's on the ground. Brave man is Cillian.
Thing is when you go around acting the hard man it's usually advisable not to be playing the same opposition the following week
I posted a link a couple.of pages back to a video which shows Connolly hit Keegan first, and Cillian did not hit him at any stage. So you can withdraw those statements when you've realised you've been spouting nonsense
Look at it again, Keegan throws first slap. It's on social media and Joe.ie stating Keegan threw the first slap just after Connolly kicks a pass and is blocked from making a run
It's all coming out now, crying to the media.
Ye're the ones crying baby ;)
If you think Connolly is going to get off because he ll claim the other guy started it you haven t a clue.
Connolly's assault a lesser version of incident below. Repeatedly hitting an opponent who is in no position to defend himself. Connolly was similarly out of control and if he wasn t stopped could be looking at a long ban indeed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tz428AaGzoA
I don't recognise that sport but not even in the same radius as Keegan's/Connolly, both got up and made nothing of it until o Connor influenced the linesman. He won't get off because of that alone but video evidence plus the CCCC have no choice ala Keane who struck twice to the face , Connolly/ Keegan's is a much lesser offence, handbags.
More nonsense. Connolly was intent on continuing his assault when O Connor arrived. O Connor behaved with the utmost restraint in the circumstances - especially by calling the linesman attention. If he hadn t Keegan would have been opened and Connolly facing a lengthy ban indeed.
Quote from: Minder on August 31, 2015, 10:26:45 PM
I haven't been reading back but on what grounds could Connolly possibly get off ?
Funny when red cards like these happen you usually hear lads say "he's not that type of player" . . .
Quote from: mikehunt on August 31, 2015, 10:27:12 PM
Money talks and the GAA make most of their money from Dublin matches. Dubs know this and their constant thuggery over the years goes unpunished. Connolly will win his appeal and we will have to listen to two weeks anality about the great dublin kerry battles in the 70's.
Paddy Cullen will surely make it back in time to save Sheehy's free.
Quote from: moysider on August 31, 2015, 10:28:58 PM
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Quote from: Tubberman on August 31, 2015, 09:58:00 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on August 31, 2015, 09:54:43 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on August 31, 2015, 09:51:36 PM
Why should Connolly get off?
Because Keegan hit him first. Clearly seen on the video.
And you can see hitman COC coming in to hit Dermo when he's on the ground. Brave man is Cillian.
Thing is when you go around acting the hard man it's usually advisable not to be playing the same opposition the following week
I posted a link a couple.of pages back to a video which shows Connolly hit Keegan first, and Cillian did not hit him at any stage. So you can withdraw those statements when you've realised you've been spouting nonsense
Look at it again, Keegan throws first slap. It's on social media and Joe.ie stating Keegan threw the first slap just after Connolly kicks a pass and is blocked from making a run
It's all coming out now, crying to the media.
Ye're the ones crying baby ;)
If you think Connolly is going to get off because he ll claim the other guy started it you haven t a clue.
Connolly's assault a lesser version of incident below. Repeatedly hitting an opponent who is in no position to defend himself. Connolly was similarly out of control and if he wasn t stopped could be looking at a long ban indeed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tz428AaGzoA
I don't recognise that sport but not even in the same radius as Keegan's/Connolly, both got up and made nothing of it until o Connor influenced the linesman. He won't get off because of that alone but video evidence plus the CCCC have no choice ala Keane who struck twice to the face , Connolly/ Keegan's is a much lesser offence, handbags.
More nonsense. Connolly was intent on continuing his assault when O Connor arrived. O Connor behaved with the utmost restraint in the circumstances - especially by calling the linesman attention. If he hadn t Keegan would have been opened and Connolly facing a lengthy ban indeed.
You should be writing short stories for the ufc website .......... Utter drivel, What of the upstanding OConnors forearm smash to OCarrolls head ....? Nothing, ah sure he was pulling out of him and deserved it
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Quote from: Tubberman on August 31, 2015, 09:58:00 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on August 31, 2015, 09:54:43 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on August 31, 2015, 09:51:36 PM
Why should Connolly get off?
Because Keegan hit him first. Clearly seen on the video.
And you can see hitman COC coming in to hit Dermo when he's on the ground. Brave man is Cillian.
Thing is when you go around acting the hard man it's usually advisable not to be playing the same opposition the following week
I posted a link a couple.of pages back to a video which shows Connolly hit Keegan first, and Cillian did not hit him at any stage. So you can withdraw those statements when you've realised you've been spouting nonsense
Look at it again, Keegan throws first slap. It's on social media and Joe.ie stating Keegan threw the first slap just after Connolly kicks a pass and is blocked from making a run
It's all coming out now, crying to the media.
Ye're the ones crying baby ;)
If you think Connolly is going to get off because he ll claim the other guy started it you haven t a clue.
Connolly's assault a lesser version of incident below. Repeatedly hitting an opponent who is in no position to defend himself. Connolly was similarly out of control and if he wasn t stopped could be looking at a long ban indeed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tz428AaGzoA
I don't recognise that sport but not even in the same radius as Keegan's/Connolly, both got up and made nothing of it until o Connor influenced the linesman. He won't get off because of that alone but video evidence plus the CCCC have no choice ala Keane who struck twice to the face , Connolly/ Keegan's is a much lesser offence, handbags.
More nonsense. Connolly was intent on continuing his assault when O Connor arrived. O Connor behaved with the utmost restraint in the circumstances - especially by calling the linesman attention. If he hadn t Keegan would have been opened and Connolly facing a lengthy ban indeed.
Inaccurate and blatant bias, nearly as bad as David Brady, must be a Mayo thing. It clearly shows Keegan assaulted Connolly first, then grappled him to the ground, Connolly was protecting himself, then O Connor came in, slapped down on Connolly then cried to the linesman and influenced his decision with the ref.
I can see the reasons now why Mayo haven't won the big one with antics like this. Connolly will get off ala Keane.
Quote from: moysider on August 31, 2015, 10:28:58 PM
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Quote from: moysider on August 31, 2015, 10:15:25 PM
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Quote from: Tubberman on August 31, 2015, 09:58:00 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on August 31, 2015, 09:54:43 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on August 31, 2015, 09:51:36 PM
Why should Connolly get off?
Because Keegan hit him first. Clearly seen on the video.
And you can see hitman COC coming in to hit Dermo when he's on the ground. Brave man is Cillian.
Thing is when you go around acting the hard man it's usually advisable not to be playing the same opposition the following week
I posted a link a couple.of pages back to a video which shows Connolly hit Keegan first, and Cillian did not hit him at any stage. So you can withdraw those statements when you've realised you've been spouting nonsense
Look at it again, Keegan throws first slap. It's on social media and Joe.ie stating Keegan threw the first slap just after Connolly kicks a pass and is blocked from making a run
It's all coming out now, crying to the media.
Ye're the ones crying baby ;)
If you think Connolly is going to get off because he ll claim the other guy started it you haven t a clue.
Connolly's assault a lesser version of incident below. Repeatedly hitting an opponent who is in no position to defend himself. Connolly was similarly out of control and if he wasn t stopped could be looking at a long ban indeed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tz428AaGzoA
I don't recognise that sport but not even in the same radius as Keegan's/Connolly, both got up and made nothing of it until o Connor influenced the linesman. He won't get off because of that alone but video evidence plus the CCCC have no choice ala Keane who struck twice to the face , Connolly/ Keegan's is a much lesser offence, handbags.
More nonsense. Connolly was intent on continuing his assault when O Connor arrived. O Connor behaved with the utmost restraint in the circumstances - especially by calling the linesman attention. If he hadn t Keegan would have been opened and Connolly facing a lengthy ban indeed.
Would have to agree there, if I had been COC and arrived on something like that on my team mates or in the street I wouldntna broke stride and lifted the head of him with my boot!
Would have been thoroughly deserved too. But imagine the outrage then!
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Quote from: Tubberman on August 31, 2015, 09:58:00 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on August 31, 2015, 09:54:43 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on August 31, 2015, 09:51:36 PM
Why should Connolly get off?
Because Keegan hit him first. Clearly seen on the video.
And you can see hitman COC coming in to hit Dermo when he's on the ground. Brave man is Cillian.
Thing is when you go around acting the hard man it's usually advisable not to be playing the same opposition the following week
I posted a link a couple.of pages back to a video which shows Connolly hit Keegan first, and Cillian did not hit him at any stage. So you can withdraw those statements when you've realised you've been spouting nonsense
Look at it again, Keegan throws first slap. It's on social media and Joe.ie stating Keegan threw the first slap just after Connolly kicks a pass and is blocked from making a run
It's all coming out now, crying to the media.
Ye're the ones crying baby ;)
If you think Connolly is going to get off because he ll claim the other guy started it you haven t a clue.
Connolly's assault a lesser version of incident below. Repeatedly hitting an opponent who is in no position to defend himself. Connolly was similarly out of control and if he wasn t stopped could be looking at a long ban indeed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tz428AaGzoA
I don't recognise that sport but not even in the same radius as Keegan's/Connolly, both got up and made nothing of it until o Connor influenced the linesman. He won't get off because of that alone but video evidence plus the CCCC have no choice ala Keane who struck twice to the face , Connolly/ Keegan's is a much lesser offence, handbags.
More nonsense. Connolly was intent on continuing his assault when O Connor arrived. O Connor behaved with the utmost restraint in the circumstances - especially by calling the linesman attention. If he hadn t Keegan would have been opened and Connolly facing a lengthy ban indeed.
Inaccurate and blatant bias, nearly as bad as David Brady, must be a Mayo thing. It clearly shows Keegan assaulted Connolly first, then grappled him to the ground, Connolly was protecting himself, then O Connor came in, slapped down on Connolly then cried to the linesman and influenced his decision with the ref.
I can see the reasons now Mayo haven't win the big one with antics like this. Connolly will get off ala Keane.
Innaccurate and blatant bias, must be a Dublin thing.
Too many posts to go trawl through but have any of the dubs admitted their team been extremely cynical yesterday?
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Quote from: The Aristocrat on August 31, 2015, 10:12:28 PM
As clear as day, can't believe you can't see it, not being smart but maybe you don't want too see it.Connolly will and rightley so get off and then we will have another cracker lads, only right and honourable thing left to do by the CCCC.
Not so sure dude, hopefully though..................here's to letting Tomas Brady loose if Connolly gets rode by the cccc
Maybe your right sack, I think the CCCC review committee is made up of a Kerry man, a Meath man and a couple of other non Dubs, probably dish out 6 months.
Quote from: Maroon Manc on August 31, 2015, 10:41:12 PM
Too many posts to go trawl through but have any of the dubs admitted their team been extremely cynical yesterday?
Sure it's only us Mayo men who are biased, according to Aristocrat.
Quote from: Minder on August 31, 2015, 10:26:45 PM
I haven't been reading back but on what grounds could Connolly possibly get off ?
He done nothing to no-one seems to be gathering consensus.
Quote from: Maroon Manc on August 31, 2015, 10:41:12 PM
Too many posts to go trawl through but have any of the dubs admitted their team been extremely cynical yesterday?
Not yet.
Quote from: Maroon Manc on August 31, 2015, 10:41:12 PM
Too many posts to go trawl through but have any of the dubs admitted their team been extremely cynical yesterday?
Hope... No talk of the collapse either!! I think they're using the patent pending "St. Mickey Siege mentality" in the vein hope it will help them win the next day!
Quote from: Farrandeelin on August 31, 2015, 10:42:39 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on August 31, 2015, 10:41:12 PM
Too many posts to go trawl through but have any of the dubs admitted their team been extremely cynical yesterday?
Sure it's only us Mayo men who are biased, according to Aristocrat.
Bias wrong word, Dub hatred more exact. David Brady prime example, read his piece in the star today, umblinkered and come back to me.
Quote from: The Aristocrat on August 31, 2015, 10:45:16 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on August 31, 2015, 10:42:39 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on August 31, 2015, 10:41:12 PM
Too many posts to go trawl through but have any of the dubs admitted their team been extremely cynical yesterday?
Sure it's only us Mayo men who are biased, according to Aristocrat.
Bias wrong word, Dub hatred more exact. David Brady prime example, read his piece in the star today, umblinkered and come back to me.
No thanks.
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Quote from: Farrandeelin on August 31, 2015, 10:42:39 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on August 31, 2015, 10:41:12 PM
Too many posts to go trawl through but have any of the dubs admitted their team been extremely cynical yesterday?
Sure it's only us Mayo men who are biased, according to Aristocrat.
Bias wrong word, Dub hatred more exact. David Brady prime example, read his piece in the star today, umblinkered and come back to me.
I wouldn't take Brady too serious, his own people don't take too much notice of him.
The Dubs rightly so have attracted plenty of praise for the way they've played the game in recent years and yesterday should be slaughtered for that cynical performace.
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Quote from: Farrandeelin on August 31, 2015, 09:51:36 PM
Why should Connolly get off?
Because Keegan hit him first. Clearly seen on the video.
And you can see hitman COC coming in to hit Dermo when he's on the ground. Brave man is Cillian.
Thing is when you go around acting the hard man it's usually advisable not to be playing the same opposition the following week
I posted a link a couple.of pages back to a video which shows Connolly hit Keegan first, and Cillian did not hit him at any stage. So you can withdraw those statements when you've realised you've been spouting nonsense
Look at it again, Keegan throws first slap. It's on social media and Joe.ie stating Keegan threw the first slap just after Connolly kicks a pass and is blocked from making a run
It's all coming out now, crying to the media.
Ye're the ones crying baby ;)
If you think Connolly is going to get off because he ll claim the other guy started it you haven t a clue.
Connolly's assault a lesser version of incident below. Repeatedly hitting an opponent who is in no position to defend himself. Connolly was similarly out of control and if he wasn t stopped could be looking at a long ban indeed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tz428AaGzoA
I don't recognise that sport but not even in the same radius as Keegan's/Connolly, both got up and made nothing of it until o Connor influenced the linesman. He won't get off because of that alone but video evidence plus the CCCC have no choice ala Keane who struck twice to the face , Connolly/ Keegan's is a much lesser offence, handbags.
More nonsense. Connolly was intent on continuing his assault when O Connor arrived. O Connor behaved with the utmost restraint in the circumstances - especially by calling the linesman attention. If he hadn t Keegan would have been opened and Connolly facing a lengthy ban indeed.
You should be writing short stories for the ufc website .......... Utter drivel, What of the upstanding OConnors forearm smash to OCarrolls head ....? Nothing, ah sure he was pulling out of him and deserved it
Christ ye're like a pinball machine jumping from incident to incident and trying to link them up.
'forearm smash to O Carrolls head' is the ultimate drivel, suggesting intent and wrecking ball force. Cop on and stop muddying the waters. O Carroll got caught with an arm outstretched in a gesture of frustration after being continuously held and checked. The tissue around the eye socket splits easily and its not nice to see anybody having injuries. Surprised he got stitches. Usually cuts like that are glued or stapled these days.
Cooper wrestled McLoughlin to ground in first minuted and didn t get digged like Keegan did.
If my neighbour Ger Cafferkey was acting the pup like O Carroll and Cooper and got cut in a gesture like that from Brogan or whoever I wouldn t be making a show of myself crying and trying to turn the tables and getting a player suspended that went out to play the game, like your friend The Aristocrat is.
Quality stuff from the Dubs here today. Yizzer gas men wha?! ;D
Quote from: Maroon Manc on August 31, 2015, 10:41:12 PM
Too many posts to go trawl through but have any of the dubs admitted their team been extremely cynical yesterday?
Roughly the same number as Mayo posters admitted theirs was.
Quote from: The Aristocrat on August 31, 2015, 10:45:16 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on August 31, 2015, 10:42:39 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on August 31, 2015, 10:41:12 PM
Too many posts to go trawl through but have any of the dubs admitted their team been extremely cynical yesterday?
Sure it's only us Mayo men who are biased, according to Aristocrat.
Bias wrong word, Dub hatred more exact. David Brady prime example, read his piece in the star today, umblinkered and come back to me.
I wouldn't take anything that bafoon Brady is spouting serious, I'll remind him of what side his bread is buttered on when I see him in castleknock gaa, another made out of them same ilk as that scruff Parkinson
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Quote from: Farrandeelin on August 31, 2015, 09:51:36 PM
Why should Connolly get off?
Because Keegan hit him first. Clearly seen on the video.
And you can see hitman COC coming in to hit Dermo when he's on the ground. Brave man is Cillian.
Thing is when you go around acting the hard man it's usually advisable not to be playing the same opposition the following week
I posted a link a couple.of pages back to a video which shows Connolly hit Keegan first, and Cillian did not hit him at any stage. So you can withdraw those statements when you've realised you've been spouting nonsense
Look at it again, Keegan throws first slap. It's on social media and Joe.ie stating Keegan threw the first slap just after Connolly kicks a pass and is blocked from making a run
It's all coming out now, crying to the media.
Ye're the ones crying baby ;)
If you think Connolly is going to get off because he ll claim the other guy started it you haven t a clue.
Connolly's assault a lesser version of incident below. Repeatedly hitting an opponent who is in no position to defend himself. Connolly was similarly out of control and if he wasn t stopped could be looking at a long ban indeed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tz428AaGzoA
I don't recognise that sport but not even in the same radius as Keegan's/Connolly, both got up and made nothing of it until o Connor influenced the linesman. He won't get off because of that alone but video evidence plus the CCCC have no choice ala Keane who struck twice to the face , Connolly/ Keegan's is a much lesser offence, handbags.
More nonsense. Connolly was intent on continuing his assault when O Connor arrived. O Connor behaved with the utmost restraint in the circumstances - especially by calling the linesman attention. If he hadn t Keegan would have been opened and Connolly facing a lengthy ban indeed.
Inaccurate and blatant bias, nearly as bad as David Brady, must be a Mayo thing. It clearly shows Keegan assaulted Connolly first, then grappled him to the ground, Connolly was protecting himself, then O Connor came in, slapped down on Connolly then cried to the linesman and influenced his decision with the ref.
I can see the reasons now why Mayo haven't won the big one with antics like this. Connolly will get off ala Keane.
You lost all credibility a long time ago but this is hilarious. You mates should tell you that you re making a spectacle of yourself. I hope Connolly has wiser counsel than you - somebody with a grasp on reality - to represent him in his appeal. Oh wait....... ;D ;D ;D
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Why should Connolly get off?
Because Keegan hit him first. Clearly seen on the video.
And you can see hitman COC coming in to hit Dermo when he's on the ground. Brave man is Cillian.
Thing is when you go around acting the hard man it's usually advisable not to be playing the same opposition the following week
I posted a link a couple.of pages back to a video which shows Connolly hit Keegan first, and Cillian did not hit him at any stage. So you can withdraw those statements when you've realised you've been spouting nonsense
Look at it again, Keegan throws first slap. It's on social media and Joe.ie stating Keegan threw the first slap just after Connolly kicks a pass and is blocked from making a run
It's all coming out now, crying to the media.
Ye're the ones crying baby ;)
If you think Connolly is going to get off because he ll claim the other guy started it you haven t a clue.
Connolly's assault a lesser version of incident below. Repeatedly hitting an opponent who is in no position to defend himself. Connolly was similarly out of control and if he wasn t stopped could be looking at a long ban indeed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tz428AaGzoA
I don't recognise that sport but not even in the same radius as Keegan's/Connolly, both got up and made nothing of it until o Connor influenced the linesman. He won't get off because of that alone but video evidence plus the CCCC have no choice ala Keane who struck twice to the face , Connolly/ Keegan's is a much lesser offence, handbags.
More nonsense. Connolly was intent on continuing his assault when O Connor arrived. O Connor behaved with the utmost restraint in the circumstances - especially by calling the linesman attention. If he hadn t Keegan would have been opened and Connolly facing a lengthy ban indeed.
You should be writing short stories for the ufc website .......... Utter drivel, What of the upstanding OConnors forearm smash to OCarrolls head ....? Nothing, ah sure he was pulling out of him and deserved it
Christ ye're like a pinball machine jumping from incident to incident and trying to link them up.
'forearm smash to O Carrolls head' is the ultimate drivel, suggesting intent and wrecking ball force. Cop on and stop muddying the waters. O Carroll got caught with an arm outstretched in a gesture of frustration after being continuously held and checked. The tissue around the eye socket splits easily and its not nice to see anybody having injuries. Surprised he got stitches. Usually cuts like that are glued or stapled these days.
Cooper wrestled McLoughlin to ground in first minuted and didn t get digged like Keegan did.
If my neighbour Ger Cafferkey was acting the pup like O Carroll and Cooper and got cut in a gesture like that from Brogan or whoever I wouldn t be making a show of myself crying and trying to turn the tables and getting a player suspended that went out to play the game, like your friend The Aristocrat is.
I wouldn't imagine you would cry wolf, leave that to the super hero Aidan, the man was loafed, assaulted, goaded and had his prostate examined in Croke park yesterday if your to believe him ::)
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Why should Connolly get off?
Because Keegan hit him first. Clearly seen on the video.
And you can see hitman COC coming in to hit Dermo when he's on the ground. Brave man is Cillian.
Thing is when you go around acting the hard man it's usually advisable not to be playing the same opposition the following week
I posted a link a couple.of pages back to a video which shows Connolly hit Keegan first, and Cillian did not hit him at any stage. So you can withdraw those statements when you've realised you've been spouting nonsense
Look at it again, Keegan throws first slap. It's on social media and Joe.ie stating Keegan threw the first slap just after Connolly kicks a pass and is blocked from making a run
It's all coming out now, crying to the media.
Ye're the ones crying baby ;)
If you think Connolly is going to get off because he ll claim the other guy started it you haven t a clue.
Connolly's assault a lesser version of incident below. Repeatedly hitting an opponent who is in no position to defend himself. Connolly was similarly out of control and if he wasn t stopped could be looking at a long ban indeed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tz428AaGzoA
I don't recognise that sport but not even in the same radius as Keegan's/Connolly, both got up and made nothing of it until o Connor influenced the linesman. He won't get off because of that alone but video evidence plus the CCCC have no choice ala Keane who struck twice to the face , Connolly/ Keegan's is a much lesser offence, handbags.
More nonsense. Connolly was intent on continuing his assault when O Connor arrived. O Connor behaved with the utmost restraint in the circumstances - especially by calling the linesman attention. If he hadn t Keegan would have been opened and Connolly facing a lengthy ban indeed.
You should be writing short stories for the ufc website .......... Utter drivel, What of the upstanding OConnors forearm smash to OCarrolls head ....? Nothing, ah sure he was pulling out of him and deserved it
Christ ye're like a pinball machine jumping from incident to incident and trying to link them up.
'forearm smash to O Carrolls head' is the ultimate drivel, suggesting intent and wrecking ball force. Cop on and stop muddying the waters. O Carroll got caught with an arm outstretched in a gesture of frustration after being continuously held and checked. The tissue around the eye socket splits easily and its not nice to see anybody having injuries. Surprised he got stitches. Usually cuts like that are glued or stapled these days.
Cooper wrestled McLoughlin to ground in first minuted and didn t get digged like Keegan did.
If my neighbour Ger Cafferkey was acting the pup like O Carroll and Cooper and got cut in a gesture like that from Brogan or whoever I wouldn t be making a show of myself crying and trying to turn the tables and getting a player suspended that went out to play the game, like your friend The Aristocrat is.
Just to say, the reason O Carroll didn't come back on is his eye closed up and with his history of concussion also v Mayo it was the right call. A wild swing back but look what goes around comes around, maybe not this year but it will.
Secondly, I understand Connolly is not liked to say the least, yeah we know, t**ker, dub sc**bag, etc, but they targeted him and Keegan grappled him to the ground and Connolly tried his utmost to break free from him. O Connor acting like a Chelsea soccer player to the linesman. Poor form, thought better of Mayo, master of the dark arts who need 2 ( laughs) managers to try and get them over the line.
Have a good night all , good discussion.
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Why should Connolly get off?
Because Keegan hit him first. Clearly seen on the video.
And you can see hitman COC coming in to hit Dermo when he's on the ground. Brave man is Cillian.
Thing is when you go around acting the hard man it's usually advisable not to be playing the same opposition the following week
I posted a link a couple.of pages back to a video which shows Connolly hit Keegan first, and Cillian did not hit him at any stage. So you can withdraw those statements when you've realised you've been spouting nonsense
Look at it again, Keegan throws first slap. It's on social media and Joe.ie stating Keegan threw the first slap just after Connolly kicks a pass and is blocked from making a run
It's all coming out now, crying to the media.
Ye're the ones crying baby ;)
If you think Connolly is going to get off because he ll claim the other guy started it you haven t a clue.
Connolly's assault a lesser version of incident below. Repeatedly hitting an opponent who is in no position to defend himself. Connolly was similarly out of control and if he wasn t stopped could be looking at a long ban indeed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tz428AaGzoA
I don't recognise that sport but not even in the same radius as Keegan's/Connolly, both got up and made nothing of it until o Connor influenced the linesman. He won't get off because of that alone but video evidence plus the CCCC have no choice ala Keane who struck twice to the face , Connolly/ Keegan's is a much lesser offence, handbags.
More nonsense. Connolly was intent on continuing his assault when O Connor arrived. O Connor behaved with the utmost restraint in the circumstances - especially by calling the linesman attention. If he hadn t Keegan would have been opened and Connolly facing a lengthy ban indeed.
You should be writing short stories for the ufc website .......... Utter drivel, What of the upstanding OConnors forearm smash to OCarrolls head ....? Nothing, ah sure he was pulling out of him and deserved it
Christ ye're like a pinball machine jumping from incident to incident and trying to link them up.
'forearm smash to O Carrolls head' is the ultimate drivel, suggesting intent and wrecking ball force. Cop on and stop muddying the waters. O Carroll got caught with an arm outstretched in a gesture of frustration after being continuously held and checked. The tissue around the eye socket splits easily and its not nice to see anybody having injuries. Surprised he got stitches. Usually cuts like that are glued or stapled these days.
Cooper wrestled McLoughlin to ground in first minuted and didn t get digged like Keegan did.
If my neighbour Ger Cafferkey was acting the pup like O Carroll and Cooper and got cut in a gesture like that from Brogan or whoever I wouldn t be making a show of myself crying and trying to turn the tables and getting a player suspended that went out to play the game, like your friend The Aristocrat is.
I wouldn't imagine you would cry wolf, leave that to the super hero Aidan, the man was loafed, assaulted, goaded and had his prostate examined in Croke park yesterday if your to believe him ::)
McLoughlin did.
Reports of a video taken from the Cusack side of the pitch. Lip reader analysis in of what Connolly said to Keegan after being sent off.."Yiz going for a pint in McGowans after?"
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Why should Connolly get off?
Because Keegan hit him first. Clearly seen on the video.
And you can see hitman COC coming in to hit Dermo when he's on the ground. Brave man is Cillian.
Thing is when you go around acting the hard man it's usually advisable not to be playing the same opposition the following week
I posted a link a couple.of pages back to a video which shows Connolly hit Keegan first, and Cillian did not hit him at any stage. So you can withdraw those statements when you've realised you've been spouting nonsense
Look at it again, Keegan throws first slap. It's on social media and Joe.ie stating Keegan threw the first slap just after Connolly kicks a pass and is blocked from making a run
It's all coming out now, crying to the media.
Ye're the ones crying baby ;)
If you think Connolly is going to get off because he ll claim the other guy started it you haven t a clue.
Connolly's assault a lesser version of incident below. Repeatedly hitting an opponent who is in no position to defend himself. Connolly was similarly out of control and if he wasn t stopped could be looking at a long ban indeed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tz428AaGzoA
I don't recognise that sport but not even in the same radius as Keegan's/Connolly, both got up and made nothing of it until o Connor influenced the linesman. He won't get off because of that alone but video evidence plus the CCCC have no choice ala Keane who struck twice to the face , Connolly/ Keegan's is a much lesser offence, handbags.
More nonsense. Connolly was intent on continuing his assault when O Connor arrived. O Connor behaved with the utmost restraint in the circumstances - especially by calling the linesman attention. If he hadn t Keegan would have been opened and Connolly facing a lengthy ban indeed.
You should be writing short stories for the ufc website .......... Utter drivel, What of the upstanding OConnors forearm smash to OCarrolls head ....? Nothing, ah sure he was pulling out of him and deserved it
Christ ye're like a pinball machine jumping from incident to incident and trying to link them up.
'forearm smash to O Carrolls head' is the ultimate drivel, suggesting intent and wrecking ball force. Cop on and stop muddying the waters. O Carroll got caught with an arm outstretched in a gesture of frustration after being continuously held and checked. The tissue around the eye socket splits easily and its not nice to see anybody having injuries. Surprised he got stitches. Usually cuts like that are glued or stapled these days.
Cooper wrestled McLoughlin to ground in first minuted and didn t get digged like Keegan did.
If my neighbour Ger Cafferkey was acting the pup like O Carroll and Cooper and got cut in a gesture like that from Brogan or whoever I wouldn t be making a show of myself crying and trying to turn the tables and getting a player suspended that went out to play the game, like your friend The Aristocrat is.
Just to say, the reason O Carroll didn't come back on is his eye closed up and with his history of concussion also v Mayo it was the right call. A wild swing back but look what goes around comes around, maybe not this year but it will.
Secondly, I understand Connolly is not liked to say the least, yeah we know, t**ker, dub sc**bag, etc, but they targeted him and Keegan grappled him to the ground and Connolly tried his utmost to break free from him. O Connor acting like a Chelsea soccer player to the linesman. Poor form, thought better of Mayo, master of the dark arts who need 2 ( laughs) managers to try and get them over the line.
Have a good night all , good discussion.
Why then, would he punch Keegan if he was trying to get away from him?
Quote from: ballinaman on August 31, 2015, 11:03:20 PM
Reports of a video taken from the Cusack side of the pitch. Lip reader analysis in of what Connolly said to Keegan after being sent off.."Yiz going for a pint in McGowans after?"
No I believe it was "it was a mayo coconut who stabbed Cooper"
Yes Im a Rossie moysider and we are arch enemies in Connaught but remember once ye cross the shannon ye are ours, now if ye lose we may slag ye but that is just between us, when ye play in croker ye are playing for Connaught as well as mayo.
I wonder what way the dirt will go this weekend?
Potential bloodbath or all on best behaviour?
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I wonder what way the dirt will go this weekend?
Potential bloodbath or all on best behaviour?
Bloodbath I reckon. Kerry laughing all the way.
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I wonder what way the dirt will go this weekend?
Potential bloodbath or all on best behaviour?
The Dubs will unveil their new sponsor....
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Why should Connolly get off?
Because Keegan hit him first. Clearly seen on the video.
And you can see hitman COC coming in to hit Dermo when he's on the ground. Brave man is Cillian.
Thing is when you go around acting the hard man it's usually advisable not to be playing the same opposition the following week
I posted a link a couple.of pages back to a video which shows Connolly hit Keegan first, and Cillian did not hit him at any stage. So you can withdraw those statements when you've realised you've been spouting nonsense
Look at it again, Keegan throws first slap. It's on social media and Joe.ie stating Keegan threw the first slap just after Connolly kicks a pass and is blocked from making a run
It's all coming out now, crying to the media.
Ye're the ones crying baby ;)
If you think Connolly is going to get off because he ll claim the other guy started it you haven t a clue.
Connolly's assault a lesser version of incident below. Repeatedly hitting an opponent who is in no position to defend himself. Connolly was similarly out of control and if he wasn t stopped could be looking at a long ban indeed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tz428AaGzoA
I don't recognise that sport but not even in the same radius as Keegan's/Connolly, both got up and made nothing of it until o Connor influenced the linesman. He won't get off because of that alone but video evidence plus the CCCC have no choice ala Keane who struck twice to the face , Connolly/ Keegan's is a much lesser offence, handbags.
More nonsense. Connolly was intent on continuing his assault when O Connor arrived. O Connor behaved with the utmost restraint in the circumstances - especially by calling the linesman attention. If he hadn t Keegan would have been opened and Connolly facing a lengthy ban indeed.
You should be writing short stories for the ufc website .......... Utter drivel, What of the upstanding OConnors forearm smash to OCarrolls head ....? Nothing, ah sure he was pulling out of him and deserved it
Christ ye're like a pinball machine jumping from incident to incident and trying to link them up.
'forearm smash to O Carrolls head' is the ultimate drivel, suggesting intent and wrecking ball force. Cop on and stop muddying the waters. O Carroll got caught with an arm outstretched in a gesture of frustration after being continuously held and checked. The tissue around the eye socket splits easily and its not nice to see anybody having injuries. Surprised he got stitches. Usually cuts like that are glued or stapled these days.
Cooper wrestled McLoughlin to ground in first minuted and didn t get digged like Keegan did.
If my neighbour Ger Cafferkey was acting the pup like O Carroll and Cooper and got cut in a gesture like that from Brogan or whoever I wouldn t be making a show of myself crying and trying to turn the tables and getting a player suspended that went out to play the game, like your friend The Aristocrat is.
I wouldn't imagine you would cry wolf, leave that to the super hero Aidan, the man was loafed, assaulted, goaded and had his prostate examined in Croke park yesterday if your to believe him ::)
Right. I missed the prostate bit, thank God :o. But an examination like that can be quick. You d want eyes in the back of your arse when Philly is around ;D ;D ;D
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1 game ban for Connolly
1 game? I thought the suspensions were time based, to include at least 1 game or whatever. 2 weeks plus the next game at this level etc....
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Why should Connolly get off?
Because Keegan hit him first. Clearly seen on the video.
And you can see hitman COC coming in to hit Dermo when he's on the ground. Brave man is Cillian.
Thing is when you go around acting the hard man it's usually advisable not to be playing the same opposition the following week
I posted a link a couple.of pages back to a video which shows Connolly hit Keegan first, and Cillian did not hit him at any stage. So you can withdraw those statements when you've realised you've been spouting nonsense
Look at it again, Keegan throws first slap. It's on social media and Joe.ie stating Keegan threw the first slap just after Connolly kicks a pass and is blocked from making a run
It's all coming out now, crying to the media.
Ye're the ones crying baby ;)
If you think Connolly is going to get off because he ll claim the other guy started it you haven t a clue.
Connolly's assault a lesser version of incident below. Repeatedly hitting an opponent who is in no position to defend himself. Connolly was similarly out of control and if he wasn t stopped could be looking at a long ban indeed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tz428AaGzoA
I don't recognise that sport but not even in the same radius as Keegan's/Connolly, both got up and made nothing of it until o Connor influenced the linesman. He won't get off because of that alone but video evidence plus the CCCC have no choice ala Keane who struck twice to the face , Connolly/ Keegan's is a much lesser offence, handbags.
More nonsense. Connolly was intent on continuing his assault when O Connor arrived. O Connor behaved with the utmost restraint in the circumstances - especially by calling the linesman attention. If he hadn t Keegan would have been opened and Connolly facing a lengthy ban indeed.
You should be writing short stories for the ufc website .......... Utter drivel, What of the upstanding OConnors forearm smash to OCarrolls head ....? Nothing, ah sure he was pulling out of him and deserved it
Christ ye're like a pinball machine jumping from incident to incident and trying to link them up.
'forearm smash to O Carrolls head' is the ultimate drivel, suggesting intent and wrecking ball force. Cop on and stop muddying the waters. O Carroll got caught with an arm outstretched in a gesture of frustration after being continuously held and checked. The tissue around the eye socket splits easily and its not nice to see anybody having injuries. Surprised he got stitches. Usually cuts like that are glued or stapled these days.
Cooper wrestled McLoughlin to ground in first minuted and didn t get digged like Keegan did.
If my neighbour Ger Cafferkey was acting the pup like O Carroll and Cooper and got cut in a gesture like that from Brogan or whoever I wouldn t be making a show of myself crying and trying to turn the tables and getting a player suspended that went out to play the game, like your friend The Aristocrat is.
Just to say, the reason O Carroll didn't come back on is his eye closed up and with his history of concussion also v Mayo it was the right call. A wild swing back but look what goes around comes around, maybe not this year but it will.
Secondly, I understand Connolly is not liked to say the least, yeah we know, t**ker, dub sc**bag, etc, but they targeted him and Keegan grappled him to the ground and Connolly tried his utmost to break free from him. O Connor acting like a Chelsea soccer player to the linesman. Poor form, thought better of Mayo, master of the dark arts who need 2 ( laughs) managers to try and get them over the line.
Have a good night all , good discussion.
More nonsense. I doubt you give us a second thought and I don t mind if you do or don t. Like Kerry ye don t care what ye need to do to win and like Kerry ye have a massive since of entitlement and a huge sense of resentment when ye don t always get ye're way - which ye usually do of course. In effect ye are spoiled and some of ye're players are spoiled as well. Others of course are top lads. Jack McCafferty and the Brogans are classy in every way. I was dismayed by Flynn's dismissive gesture to the tv camera at the end. Thought he was a quality bloke too. What was that about?
Yer ould spin these last couple of day's Aristocrat has done nothing for your credibility.
Quote from: giveballaghback on August 31, 2015, 11:08:04 PM
Yes Im a Rossie moysider and we are arch enemies in Connaught but remember once ye cross the shannon ye are ours, now if ye lose we may slag ye but that is just between us, when ye play in croker ye are playing for Connaught as well as mayo.
May I point out this chap is not speaking for me >:(
Also may I point out it's CONNACHT >:( >:(
Thirdly may I point out they are only playing for Mayo and some of Ballagh.
Sadly of the three teams left an A I win by them would be the least objectionable :'(
So many incidents from the game yesterday and I had some sympathy for Connolly aa Keegan stops his run and drags him down so should have been black I think.
However how can RTE analyse this incident in such detail but not comment on the two punches thrown on the man on the ground.
McMahon was out of control all day and it's amazing he wasn't sent off before this.
https://youtu.be/ASkcjgafJCU (https://youtu.be/ASkcjgafJCU)
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on August 31, 2015, 11:26:33 PM
1 game ban for Connolly
That was automatic. Appeal Thursday night I assume. Aristocrat would want to be better prepared to represent him than he has been on here or the ban will be X2!
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Quote from: giveballaghback on August 31, 2015, 11:08:04 PM
Yes Im a Rossie moysider and we are arch enemies in Connaught but remember once ye cross the shannon ye are ours, now if ye lose we may slag ye but that is just between us, when ye play in croker ye are playing for Connaught as well as mayo.
May I point out this chap is not speaking for me >:(
Also may I point out it's CONNACHT >:( >:(
Thirdly may I point out they are only playing for Mayo and some of Ballagh.
Sadly of the three teams left an A I win by them would be the least objectionable :'(
I knew we could count on your support Rossfan ;D ;D ;D Not much support but it means a lot ;)
Quote from: Fuzzman on August 31, 2015, 11:44:34 PM
So many incidents from the game yesterday and I had some sympathy for Connolly aa Keegan stops his run and drags him down so should have been black I think.
However how can RTE analyse this incident in such detail but not comment on the two punches thrown on the man on the ground.
McMahon was out of control all day and it's amazing he wasn't sent off before this.
https://youtu.be/ASkcjgafJCU (https://youtu.be/ASkcjgafJCU)
A lot happened alright but news to me McMahon was sent off ???
Keep thinking this feckin replay is in Limerick
https://vimeo.com/137853354
Thats a kind of funny video if you look at the 2nd and 3rd incident. Better qualify this by saying I reckon McQuillan is an absolute shite referree!!) and would have been supporting Mayo (spent many a happy summer with the cousins in Kiltimagh!!
Incident 2 just after the foul Cillian O'Connor runs in and pushes Connolly over and Joes answer is to bring the ball forward for Mayo...Incident 3 Connolly does the pushing just after the foul and Joes response........bring the ball forward for Mayo. Connolly should have known his number was up after that!!!!
Its a rather poor video anyway...In the 1st minute alone there are 2 or 3 other incidents of wrongdoing by Mayo players that the 'editor' seems to have missed......
Some amount of absolute shite being spouted by The Aristocrat , Indiana, Squire .
Has the Dublin county board took notes from Putin and set up a troll factory?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-33972122
The most shocking thing about Sunday was Cillian O'Connor getting Man of the Match. He offers no threat from play and spends most of his time getting involved in incidents and trying to influence the officials. In saying that, there is no way he should be suspended as he did nothing wrong but he won't be the deciding factor come the replay.
Looks like the papers today have decided Connolly's faith. CRC /CCCC getting in contact with their non-Dub friends in the media asking them to write articles to help them to carry through Connolly's ban. Example is John Fogerty in the Examiner today, helping his friends out.
I see Aiden O Shea was watching straight out of Compton last night trying to learn how to toughen up and talk back to when he meets the gentleman Philip McMahon again. Aiden has a problem in big games, great against the Sligo's of this world but big games goes missing, in the 2013 All Ireland final they had to send out a search party for him.
A sad day for the CRC and CCCC if Connolly's 1 game ban is not overturned but we all know it wont as its agenda driven and Connolly is a hate figure. Looks like Mayo will have the ref again Saturday who notoriously gives very bad decisions to Dublin. Example league match against Kerry. Bad call to appoint him.
Quote from: nrico2006 on September 01, 2015, 08:44:31 AM
The most shocking thing about Sunday was Cillian O'Connor getting Man of the Match. He offers no threat from play and spends most of his time getting involved in incidents and trying to influence the officials. In saying that, there is no way he should be suspended as he did nothing wrong but he won't be the deciding factor come the replay.
O'Connor's freetaking was immense, although agree not worthy of man of the match, and he did miss his only chance from play towards the end after a quick free was taken.
I thought Higgins was super for Mayo (as usual). If he was the man closest to the Dub in possession you could almost guarantee a turnover, and he used the ball very well too. And the point he got was an inspirational one for the rest of the team at a crucial time, charging down the middle and banging it over.
For Dubs, Jack McCaffrey was best. Caused problems every time he got the ball and made a number of interceptions and turnovers.
Quote from: The Aristocrat on September 01, 2015, 08:55:56 AM
Looks like the papers today have decided Connolly's faith. CRC /CCCC getting in contact with their non-Dub friends in the media asking them to write articles to help them to carry through Connolly's ban. Example is John Fogerty in the Examiner today, helping his friends out.
I see Aiden O Shea was watching straight out of Compton last night trying to learn how to toughen up and talk back to when he meets the gentleman Philip McMahon again. Aiden has a problem in big games, great against the Sligo's of this world but big games goes missing, in the 2013 All Ireland final they had to send out a search party for him.
A sad day for the CRC and CCCC if Connolly's 1 game ban is not overturned but we all know it wont as its agenda driven and Connolly is a hate figure. Looks like Mayo will have the ref again Saturday who notoriously gives very bad decisions to Dublin. Example league match against Kerry. Bad call to appoint him.
Protestant or Catholic or Atheist or what is he?
Quote from: The Aristocrat on September 01, 2015, 08:55:56 AM
Looks like the papers today have decided Connolly's faith. CRC /CCCC getting in contact with their non-Dub friends in the media asking them to write articles to help them to carry through Connolly's ban. Example is John Fogerty in the Examiner today, helping his friends out.
I see Aiden O Shea was watching straight out of Compton last night trying to learn how to toughen up and talk back to when he meets the gentleman Philip McMahon again. Aiden has a problem in big games, great against the Sligo's of this world but big games goes missing, in the 2013 All Ireland final they had to send out a search party for him.
A sad day for the CRC and CCCC if Connolly's 1 game ban is not overturned but we all know it wont as its agenda driven and Connolly is a hate figure. Looks like Mayo will have the ref again Saturday who notoriously gives very bad decisions to Dublin. Example league match against Kerry. Bad call to appoint him.
The poor dubs. Everyone is out to get them.
Time for Tomas Brady to marshall Keegan in connollys absence, absolute man marker job on him, and try not be drawn in by his snakey moves, Small to number six and put CIan at 8 alongside Fenton
Leave Philly on Saint Aidan
Quote from: The Aristocrat on September 01, 2015, 08:55:56 AM
Looks like the papers today have decided Connolly's faith. CRC /CCCC getting in contact with their non-Dub friends in the media asking them to write articles to help them to carry through Connolly's ban. Example is John Fogerty in the Examiner today, helping his friends out.
I see Aiden O Shea was watching straight out of Compton last night trying to learn how to toughen up and talk back to when he meets the gentleman Philip McMahon again. Aiden has a problem in big games, great against the Sligo's of this world but big games goes missing, in the 2013 All Ireland final they had to send out a search party for him.
A sad day for the CRC and CCCC if Connolly's 1 game ban is not overturned but we all know it wont as its agenda driven and Connolly is a hate figure. Looks like Mayo will have the ref again Saturday who notoriously gives very bad decisions to Dublin. Example league match against Kerry. Bad call to appoint him.
Fell sorry for DC as he was provoked but a strike is a strike regardless.
Some amount of whinging from the Dubs on here, hard to credit considering they were the aggressors in most incidents:
- Cooper's kick on O'Connor, red card without a doubt. He was at McLoughlin before the ball was even thrown in.
- O'Carroll pulling out of O'Connor off the ball and getting a clip for his troubles
- McMahon body-checking AOS and then going down like a blouse holding his face. Punched Boyle after the penalty was awarded also
- While the initial video made it look like Keegan started the incident with Connolly, the video on FB that someone posted here shows that it was Connolly who pulled at Keegan first. Not a prayer of him getting off (although you'd have said the same about Keane).
- Fair enough AOS eye gouged someone so we'll take responsibility for that ;D ;D
On the match itself, we were lucky to get out of there with a draw but at the same time we should have won it. Those succession of wides around the 45th minute were desperate and we should have been left to rue them if Dublin had any sort of backbone. Luckily, they don't seem to have. Brogan is pure class, his point in the 2nd half was as good as you'll see anywhere. McCaffrey, Fenton and KK also very good for Dublin. Andrews was excellent as well, can't understand why he was taken off.
For Mayo, you'd have to imagine that we'll push up more on Cluxton from the start the next day, it was only when we did that that we started to get some joy. We need to bring our shooting boots next Saturday too. I thought Durcan was very good, I'd imagine he'll start the next day. Higgins, Drake Parsons were very good. DO'C was brilliant I thought and I would have had him as motm. AOS didn't score but he won three frees and was directly involved in three other points so overall a decent enough performance, I thought he was unlucky with the point where he was pulled for overcarrying. COC needs to play much closer to him the next day but he was deadly from frees and showed some nerve to hit that penalty. Andy was a mixed bag when he came, two bad misses, should have passed to DO'C for a goal chance but then pops up with two great points.
Looking forward to the next day, hopefully it'll be played in better spirits but I doubt it.....
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Quote from: The Aristocrat on September 01, 2015, 08:55:56 AM
Looks like the papers today have decided Connolly's faith. CRC /CCCC getting in contact with their non-Dub friends in the media asking them to write articles to help them to carry through Connolly's ban. Example is John Fogerty in the Examiner today, helping his friends out.
I see Aiden O Shea was watching straight out of Compton last night trying to learn how to toughen up and talk back to when he meets the gentleman Philip McMahon again. Aiden has a problem in big games, great against the Sligo's of this world but big games goes missing, in the 2013 All Ireland final they had to send out a search party for him.
A sad day for the CRC and CCCC if Connolly's 1 game ban is not overturned but we all know it wont as its agenda driven and Connolly is a hate figure. Looks like Mayo will have the ref again Saturday who notoriously gives very bad decisions to Dublin. Example league match against Kerry. Bad call to appoint him.
Fell sorry for DC as he was provoked but a strike is a strike regardless.
As was mayos keanes............. Provocation on both counts, Connolly should be cleared to play
Quote from: The Aristocrat on September 01, 2015, 08:55:56 AM
Looks like the papers today have decided Connolly's faith. CRC /CCCC getting in contact with their non-Dub friends in the media asking them to write articles to help them to carry through Connolly's ban. Example is John Fogerty in the Examiner today, helping his friends out.
I see Aiden O Shea was watching straight out of Compton last night trying to learn how to toughen up and talk back to when he meets the gentleman Philip McMahon again. Aiden has a problem in big games, great against the Sligo's of this world but big games goes missing, in the 2013 All Ireland final they had to send out a search party for him.
A sad day for the CRC and CCCC if Connolly's 1 game ban is not overturned but we all know it wont as its agenda driven and Connolly is a hate figure. Looks like Mayo will have the ref again Saturday who notoriously gives very bad decisions to Dublin. Example league match against Kerry. Bad call to appoint him.
Wasn't he nominated for MOTM?
Free count Sunday 33-12 in favour of Mayo. Says it all. Keegan will be worse, I imagine it will be 45 - 6 the next day.
Looking back on the match O Connor should have reffed the game himself he was involved in his ear that much, Mayo antics leave a lot to be desired and would it be cracked down on the next day but doubtful with the backing of the GAA who really want them to win the big one.
Dublin don't have a chance in the replay now.
Quote from: The Aristocrat on September 01, 2015, 09:31:24 AM
Free count Sunday 33-12 in favour of Mayo. Says it all. Keegan will be worse, I imagine it will be 45 - 6 the next day.
Looking back on the match O Connor should have reffed the game himself he was involved in his ear that much, Mayo antics leave a lot to be desired and would it be cracked down on the next day but doubtful with the backing of the GAA who really want them to win the big one.
Dublin don't have a chance in the replay now.
Did you not have your "last word" on this about 30 pages back?? ;D ;D ;D
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Some of the stuff here is going way overboard! there will be riots next Saturday if this keeps up.
Quote from: blanketattack on September 01, 2015, 09:27:52 AM
Quote from: The Aristocrat on September 01, 2015, 08:55:56 AM
Looks like the papers today have decided Connolly's faith. CRC /CCCC getting in contact with their non-Dub friends in the media asking them to write articles to help them to carry through Connolly's ban. Example is John Fogerty in the Examiner today, helping his friends out.
I see Aiden O Shea was watching straight out of Compton last night trying to learn how to toughen up and talk back to when he meets the gentleman Philip McMahon again. Aiden has a problem in big games, great against the Sligo's of this world but big games goes missing, in the 2013 All Ireland final they had to send out a search party for him.
A sad day for the CRC and CCCC if Connolly's 1 game ban is not overturned but we all know it wont as its agenda driven and Connolly is a hate figure. Looks like Mayo will have the ref again Saturday who notoriously gives very bad decisions to Dublin. Example league match against Kerry. Bad call to appoint him.
Wasn't he nominated for MOTM?
Yeah wrongly so, think they must have felt sorry for him. Don't get me wrong he is a top bloke and good player, im not targeting him, just disappointed he lied to national media, probably instructed to do so my the Mayo co management to try and get a player banned the next day.
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Quote from: The Aristocrat on September 01, 2015, 08:55:56 AM
Looks like the papers today have decided Connolly's faith. CRC /CCCC getting in contact with their non-Dub friends in the media asking them to write articles to help them to carry through Connolly's ban. Example is John Fogerty in the Examiner today, helping his friends out.
I see Aiden O Shea was watching straight out of Compton last night trying to learn how to toughen up and talk back to when he meets the gentleman Philip McMahon again. Aiden has a problem in big games, great against the Sligo's of this world but big games goes missing, in the 2013 All Ireland final they had to send out a search party for him.
A sad day for the CRC and CCCC if Connolly's 1 game ban is not overturned but we all know it wont as its agenda driven and Connolly is a hate figure. Looks like Mayo will have the ref again Saturday who notoriously gives very bad decisions to Dublin. Example league match against Kerry. Bad call to appoint him.
Wasn't he nominated for MOTM?
Yeah wrongly so, think they must have felt sorry for him. Don't get me wrong he is a top bloke and good player, im not targeting him, just disappointed he lied to national media, probably instructed to do so my the Mayo co management to try and get a player banned the next day.
Both AOS and COC were nominated for MOTM. I even laughed at another paper giving Paul Flynn the award.
Not too much mention of Cluxton kicking out.
QuoteFor Mayo, you'd have to imagine that we'll push up more on Cluxton from the start the next day, it was only when we did that that we started to get some joy. We need to bring our shooting boots next Saturday too.
MacD, i'm not sure pushing up early in the game is wise. On Sunday we took a leaf out of Kerry's book, they waited until early in the 2nd half to push up on Tyrone, although they should have done it earlier given the wet ball.
I called / guessed our tactic for the last day, i.e. conceding kick outs to the Dubs. This may not have looked like it worked but without the peno we would have been level at half time. We had Dublin completely taken out of the stride they love to play in.
Squeezing Cluxton early will mean going man to man, this is highly dangerous and will play into the Dubs hands. We need to keep it tight again until half time the next day.
McStay also made a good point that squeezing the kick outs early is an energy sapping tactic. Look what happen in '13 to us.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6QYGy7Xk-w
Ok all of the above is based on a dry ball.
Wet ball, the tactic is the opposite with Andy Moran starting.
QuoteFree count Sunday 33-12 in favour of Mayo. Says it all. Keegan will be worse, I imagine it will be 45 - 6 the next day.
Between the 2 non points the Dubs got, the first one the double hop and the 2nd a free against Cafferkey for nothing I would say things were equal enough.
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Some of the stuff here is going way overboard! there will be riots next Saturday if this keeps up.
Have you seen the racist abuse some of your fans have sent to Connolly on Twitter. It's nothing short of a disgrace .
Some of your fans are an absolute disgrace . You should be ashamed of yourselves . You do know it's only a football match .
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Quote from: The Aristocrat on September 01, 2015, 08:55:56 AM
Looks like the papers today have decided Connolly's faith. CRC /CCCC getting in contact with their non-Dub friends in the media asking them to write articles to help them to carry through Connolly's ban. Example is John Fogerty in the Examiner today, helping his friends out.
I see Aiden O Shea was watching straight out of Compton last night trying to learn how to toughen up and talk back to when he meets the gentleman Philip McMahon again. Aiden has a problem in big games, great against the Sligo's of this world but big games goes missing, in the 2013 All Ireland final they had to send out a search party for him.
A sad day for the CRC and CCCC if Connolly's 1 game ban is not overturned but we all know it wont as its agenda driven and Connolly is a hate figure. Looks like Mayo will have the ref again Saturday who notoriously gives very bad decisions to Dublin. Example league match against Kerry. Bad call to appoint him.
Wasn't he nominated for MOTM?
Yeah wrongly so, think they must have felt sorry for him. Don't get me wrong he is a top bloke and good player, im not targeting him, just disappointed he lied to national media, probably instructed to do so my the Mayo co management to try and get a player banned the next day.
Both AOS and COC were nominated for MOTM. I even laughed at another paper giving Paul Flynn the award.
Not too much mention of Cluxton kicking out.
What county are you from do you mind be asking ? I'm assuming it's one that's pretty shite
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Some of the stuff here is going way overboard! there will be riots next Saturday if this keeps up.
I was in McGraths at about 8pm on Sunday night. Good chats with few older Dublin supporters, sound lads and fair assessments of the game.
Word filtered through that it was kicking off outside...had a gawk out the door expecting to see a mix of colours going at it. Just blue jerseys pucking the heads off each other...had to laugh.
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Some of the stuff here is going way overboard! there will be riots next Saturday if this keeps up.
Have you seen the racist abuse some of your fans have sent to Connolly on Twitter. It's nothing short of a disgrace .
Some of your fans are an absolute disgrace . You should be ashamed of yourselves . You do know it's only a football match .
Oh my, the irony!!!
Quote from: The Aristocrat on September 01, 2015, 09:33:16 AM
Yeah wrongly so, think they must have felt sorry for him. Don't get me wrong he is a top bloke and good player, im not targeting him, just disappointed he lied to national media, probably instructed to do so my the Mayo co management to try and get a player banned the next day.
Mcmahon went with the head and all the videos prove it. Pat Mac saw them and had his own interpretation but no matter how you spin it the threatening intent is there. Bottom line is he didn't lie. He was asked his opinion by the media and he gave it honestly. You're right - he is a top bloke and honest too.
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Some of the stuff here is going way overboard! there will be riots next Saturday if this keeps up.
Have you seen the racist abuse some of your fans have sent to Connolly on Twitter. It's nothing short of a disgrace .
Some of your fans are an absolute disgrace . You should be ashamed of yourselves . You do know it's only a football match .
Yep, Mayo, Kildare and Tipp fans all cheering on Mayo in Croke park. Hilarious and embarrassing. They are a bitter bitter bunch.
Anyway, back to the game itself, anyone want to wager on the free count next Saturday, Mayo 42 - Dublin 5 id imagine.
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Some of the stuff here is going way overboard! there will be riots next Saturday if this keeps up.
Have you seen the racist abuse some of your fans have sent to Connolly on Twitter. It's nothing short of a disgrace .
Some of your fans are an absolute disgrace . You should be ashamed of yourselves . You do know it's only a football match .
Oh my, the irony!!!
The irony of what ? Threatening him with iron bars . stay classy their kid
Quote from: Nihilist on September 01, 2015, 09:50:24 AM
Quote from: The Aristocrat on September 01, 2015, 09:33:16 AM
Yeah wrongly so, think they must have felt sorry for him. Don't get me wrong he is a top bloke and good player, im not targeting him, just disappointed he lied to national media, probably instructed to do so my the Mayo co management to try and get a player banned the next day.
Mcmahon went with the head and all the videos prove it. Pat Mac saw them and had his own interpretation but no matter how you spin it the threatening intent is there. Bottom line is he didn't lie. He was asked his opinion by the media and he gave it honestly. You're right - he is a top bloke and honest too.
Bottom line is he cried to the national media with a bit of a fib to try and get a player who man marked him out of the game suspended for the replay. Its a Mayo thing that they always go to the media, perhaps if they kept the head down a bit more they might actually win a Sam.
Keep it going lads...this is great stuff!
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Some of the stuff here is going way overboard! there will be riots next Saturday if this keeps up.
Have you seen the racist abuse some of your fans have sent to Connolly on Twitter. It's nothing short of a disgrace .
Some of your fans are an absolute disgrace . You should be ashamed of yourselves . You do know it's only a football match .
I havent seen that abuse and i would condemn it but its a bit rich saying its only a game when yourself , Squire and Aristocrat have been in hysterics since the match.
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Some of the stuff here is going way overboard! there will be riots next Saturday if this keeps up.
Have you seen the racist abuse some of your fans have sent to Connolly on Twitter. It's nothing short of a disgrace .
Some of your fans are an absolute disgrace . You should be ashamed of yourselves . You do know it's only a football match .
Oh my, the irony!!!
The irony of what ? Threatening him with iron bars . stay classy their kid
No, I haven't even seen what was said to Connolly on twitter, I don't follow him. If someone threatened him and is giving him personal abuse, that's not on obviously and action can be taken if need be. We all know Diarmuid is well able to handle himself though...
The irony is you of all people coming out with the line "You do know it's only a football match". Your posts, along with squire and The Aristocrat have been nothing short of hysterical.
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Some of the stuff here is going way overboard! there will be riots next Saturday if this keeps up.
Have you seen the racist abuse some of your fans have sent to Connolly on Twitter. It's nothing short of a disgrace .
Some of your fans are an absolute disgrace . You should be ashamed of yourselves . You do know it's only a football match .
Oh my, the irony!!!
The irony of what ? Threatening him with iron bars . stay classy their kid
No, I haven't even seen what was said to Connolly on twitter, I don't follow him. If someone threatened him and is giving him personal abuse, that's not on obviously and action can be taken if need be. We all know Diarmuid is well able to handle himself though...
The irony is you of all people coming out with the line "You do know it's only a football match". Your posts, along with squire and The Aristocrat have been nothing short of hysterical.
Hysterical, take a look at your own county with the blouse Aidan running to the media and every gombeen from here to Dubai with their mayo4sam rubbish, this is set up nicely for us on Saturday
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on September 01, 2015, 09:15:48 AM
Quote from: The Aristocrat on September 01, 2015, 08:55:56 AM
Looks like the papers today have decided Connolly's faith. CRC /CCCC getting in contact with their non-Dub friends in the media asking them to write articles to help them to carry through Connolly's ban. Example is John Fogerty in the Examiner today, helping his friends out.
I see Aiden O Shea was watching straight out of Compton last night trying to learn how to toughen up and talk back to when he meets the gentleman Philip McMahon again. Aiden has a problem in big games, great against the Sligo's of this world but big games goes missing, in the 2013 All Ireland final they had to send out a search party for him.
A sad day for the CRC and CCCC if Connolly's 1 game ban is not overturned but we all know it wont as its agenda driven and Connolly is a hate figure. Looks like Mayo will have the ref again Saturday who notoriously gives very bad decisions to Dublin. Example league match against Kerry. Bad call to appoint him.
Fell sorry for DC as he was provoked but a strike is a strike regardless.
Not a chance. From the word go he was getting involved in incidents that had nothing to do with him. From junior football, right up to senior county, you're gonna get markers in your face, you're gonna get dragged, shouted at, have your run blocked etc etc, but, YOU DO NOT STRIKE ! its the golden rule. If you're gonna feel sorry for anyone, feel sorry for the Dublin fans, they're the ones he let down. The man needs to sort himself out, play the way he can play, which is right up there and not get involved. Take the suspension, learn from it and move on.
The Aristocrat, legendary status is just around the next bend
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Some of the stuff here is going way overboard! there will be riots next Saturday if this keeps up.
Have you seen the racist abuse some of your fans have sent to Connolly on Twitter. It's nothing short of a disgrace .
Some of your fans are an absolute disgrace . You should be ashamed of yourselves . You do know it's only a football match .
I havent seen that abuse and i would condemn it but its a bit rich saying its only a game when yourself , Squire and Aristocrat have been in hysterics since the match.
Hysterics over what ? We're only asking for fair play. Both teams were at it last Sunday . Yet once again we are painted as the bad boys . Some of our players have 11 stitches and a closed eye but I suppose Philly Mc Mahon did that as well ?
I'd have serious concerns about what could happen on and off the pitch the way this is going.
Thank Christ I don't engage in social media . Why any player would go on it is beyond me .
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Some of the stuff here is going way overboard! there will be riots next Saturday if this keeps up.
Have you seen the racist abuse some of your fans have sent to Connolly on Twitter. It's nothing short of a disgrace .
Some of your fans are an absolute disgrace . You should be ashamed of yourselves . You do know it's only a football match .
Oh my, the irony!!!
The irony of what ? Threatening him with iron bars . stay classy their kid
No, I haven't even seen what was said to Connolly on twitter, I don't follow him. If someone threatened him and is giving him personal abuse, that's not on obviously and action can be taken if need be. We all know Diarmuid is well able to handle himself though...
The irony is you of all people coming out with the line "You do know it's only a football match". Your posts, along with squire and The Aristocrat have been nothing short of hysterical.
Hysterical, take a look at your own county with the blouse Aidan running to the media and every gombeen from here to Dubai with their mayo4sam rubbish, this is set up nicely for us on Saturday
FFS Squire can you be a little bit objective. O'Shea was asked a question and he answered. He didnt go running to the media, he gets interviewed after every game. You cant dent that that McMahon stuck the head into him , maybe if O'Shea dived to the ground holding his face he would have got more of a reaction.
Will try and steer this back to the football if that's possible.
If Mayo have a half like that the next day it'll certainly be curtains, Dublin should've been out of sight. H&C were trying to be too clever by half drafting in Drake, it didn't work, we need one of the Morans starting the next day and get more support for O'Shea. Kilkenny and Andrews were lethal and Brogan always looks like he could rattle the net if he gets the right ball. The Dublin forwards are just more accurate and whether we press up or not they'll still get enough ball to do damage. They'll hardly cough up as many frees either so it's obvious we need more from play, forwards need to step up and knock a few over particularly Doherty and McLoughlin.
I'm surprised he didn't hit the deck he's a great man for the arms in the air and going down, sure he didn't have his spokesman cillian the ref beside him at the time, he grabbed McMahon by the scruff and pulled him into him.
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Some of the stuff here is going way overboard! there will be riots next Saturday if this keeps up.
Have you seen the racist abuse some of your fans have sent to Connolly on Twitter. It's nothing short of a disgrace .
Some of your fans are an absolute disgrace . You should be ashamed of yourselves . You do know it's only a football match .
I havent seen that abuse and i would condemn it but its a bit rich saying its only a game when yourself , Squire and Aristocrat have been in hysterics since the match.
Hysterics over what ? We're only asking for fair play. Both teams were at it last Sunday . Yet once again we are painted as the bad boys . Some of our players have 11 stitches and a closed eye but I suppose Philly Mc Mahon did that as well ?
I'd have serious concerns about what could happen on and off the pitch the way this is going.
Thank Christ I don't engage in social media . Why any player would go on it is beyond me .
Do you honestly think O'Connor meant to elbow O'Carroll?
Im not saying the mayo lads are angels and god knows if there is one mayo player you expect to get involved in niggles it is Keegan but the fact is Connelly got caught striking. On another day it could be the other way around.
I think the worst case of foul play was Coopers but that is being glossed over by most of the Dublin fans because it was dealt with by the ref
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Looks like the papers today have decided Connolly's faith. CRC /CCCC getting in contact with their non-Dub friends in the media asking them to write articles to help them to carry through Connolly's ban. Example is John Fogerty in the Examiner today, helping his friends out.
I see Aiden O Shea was watching straight out of Compton last night trying to learn how to toughen up and talk back to when he meets the gentleman Philip McMahon again. Aiden has a problem in big games, great against the Sligo's of this world but big games goes missing, in the 2013 All Ireland final they had to send out a search party for him.
A sad day for the CRC and CCCC if Connolly's 1 game ban is not overturned but we all know it wont as its agenda driven and Connolly is a hate figure. Looks like Mayo will have the ref again Saturday who notoriously gives very bad decisions to Dublin. Example league match against Kerry. Bad call to appoint him.
Wasn't he nominated for MOTM?
You and your facts have no place here. All we want to hear about is the 33-12 free count (it was actually 26-21 but there I go again with the facts), AOS eye gouging, AOS elbowing, COC WWF forearm slam, poor Diarmuid being picked on, Phillys nodding dog impression.
The facts? Shove you facts up your arse!
Coopers leg movement was shocking, I don't know what he was at and should consider himself a lucky man, any challenge slowed to the rate that rte enjoyed doing though looks worse
D OConnor seemed to move quite gingerly all day in fairness, Rory OCarroll not so much.
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Why should Connolly get off?
Because Keegan hit him first. Clearly seen on the video.
And you can see hitman COC coming in to hit Dermo when he's on the ground. Brave man is Cillian.
Thing is when you go around acting the hard man it's usually advisable not to be playing the same opposition the following week
I posted a link a couple.of pages back to a video which shows Connolly hit Keegan first, and Cillian did not hit him at any stage. So you can withdraw those statements when you've realised you've been spouting nonsense
Look at it again, Keegan throws first slap. It's on social media and Joe.ie stating Keegan threw the first slap just after Connolly kicks a pass and is blocked from making a run
It's all coming out now, crying to the media.
Ye're the ones crying baby ;)
If you think Connolly is going to get off because he ll claim the other guy started it you haven t a clue.
Connolly's assault a lesser version of incident below. Repeatedly hitting an opponent who is in no position to defend himself. Connolly was similarly out of control and if he wasn t stopped could be looking at a long ban indeed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tz428AaGzoA
I don't recognise that sport but not even in the same radius as Keegan's/Connolly, both got up and made nothing of it until o Connor influenced the linesman. He won't get off because of that alone but video evidence plus the CCCC have no choice ala Keane who struck twice to the face , Connolly/ Keegan's is a much lesser offence, handbags.
More nonsense. Connolly was intent on continuing his assault when O Connor arrived. O Connor behaved with the utmost restraint in the circumstances - especially by calling the linesman attention. If he hadn t Keegan would have been opened and Connolly facing a lengthy ban indeed.
You should be writing short stories for the ufc website .......... Utter drivel, What of the upstanding OConnors forearm smash to OCarrolls head ....? Nothing, ah sure he was pulling out of him and deserved it
Christ ye're like a pinball machine jumping from incident to incident and trying to link them up.
'forearm smash to O Carrolls head' is the ultimate drivel, suggesting intent and wrecking ball force. Cop on and stop muddying the waters. O Carroll got caught with an arm outstretched in a gesture of frustration after being continuously held and checked. The tissue around the eye socket splits easily and its not nice to see anybody having injuries. Surprised he got stitches. Usually cuts like that are glued or stapled these days.
Cooper wrestled McLoughlin to ground in first minuted and didn t get digged like Keegan did.
If my neighbour Ger Cafferkey was acting the pup like O Carroll and Cooper and got cut in a gesture like that from Brogan or whoever I wouldn t be making a show of myself crying and trying to turn the tables and getting a player suspended that went out to play the game, like your friend The Aristocrat is.
Just to say, the reason O Carroll didn't come back on is his eye closed up and with his history of concussion also v Mayo it was the right call. A wild swing back but look what goes around comes around, maybe not this year but it will.
Secondly, I understand Connolly is not liked to say the least, yeah we know, t**ker, dub sc**bag, etc, but they targeted him and Keegan grappled him to the ground and Connolly tried his utmost to break free from him. O Connor acting like a Chelsea soccer player to the linesman. Poor form, thought better of Mayo, master of the dark arts who need 2 ( laughs) managers to try and get them over the line.
Have a good night all , good discussion.
More nonsense. I doubt you give us a second thought and I don t mind if you do or don t. Like Kerry ye don t care what ye need to do to win and like Kerry ye have a massive since of entitlement and a huge sense of resentment when ye don t always get ye're way - which ye usually do of course. In effect ye are spoiled and some of ye're players are spoiled as well. Others of course are top lads. Jack McCafferty and the Brogans are classy in every way.bloke too. What I was dismayed by Flynn's dismissive gesture to the tv camera at the end. Thought he was a quality was that about? Yer ould spin these last couple of day's Aristocrat has done nothing for your credibility.
Ah come on Moysider, in a thread that has gotten a bit out of hand , that comment about Flynn takes the biscuit.
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Some of the stuff here is going way overboard! there will be riots next Saturday if this keeps up.
Have you seen the racist abuse some of your fans have sent to Connolly on Twitter. It's nothing short of a disgrace .
Some of your fans are an absolute disgrace . You should be ashamed of yourselves . You do know it's only a football match .
Oh my, the irony!!!
The irony of what ? Threatening him with iron bars . stay classy their kid
No, I haven't even seen what was said to Connolly on twitter, I don't follow him. If someone threatened him and is giving him personal abuse, that's not on obviously and action can be taken if need be. We all know Diarmuid is well able to handle himself though...
The irony is you of all people coming out with the line "You do know it's only a football match". Your posts, along with squire and The Aristocrat have been nothing short of hysterical.
Hysterical, take a look at your own county with the blouse Aidan running to the media and every gombeen from here to Dubai with their mayo4sam rubbish, this is set up nicely for us on Saturday
FFS Squire can you be a little bit objective. O'Shea was asked a question and he answered. He didnt go running to the media, he gets interviewed after every game. You cant dent that that McMahon stuck the head into him , maybe if O'Shea dived to the ground holding his face he would have got more of a reaction.
Not accurate as pointed out on previous pages, even Pat McEanany , the head of the referees came out and said he didn't. Blatant attempt to get a player suspended because he couldn't get the better of him.
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Quote from: The Aristocrat on September 01, 2015, 08:55:56 AM
Looks like the papers today have decided Connolly's faith. CRC /CCCC getting in contact with their non-Dub friends in the media asking them to write articles to help them to carry through Connolly's ban. Example is John Fogerty in the Examiner today, helping his friends out.
I see Aiden O Shea was watching straight out of Compton last night trying to learn how to toughen up and talk back to when he meets the gentleman Philip McMahon again. Aiden has a problem in big games, great against the Sligo's of this world but big games goes missing, in the 2013 All Ireland final they had to send out a search party for him.
A sad day for the CRC and CCCC if Connolly's 1 game ban is not overturned but we all know it wont as its agenda driven and Connolly is a hate figure. Looks like Mayo will have the ref again Saturday who notoriously gives very bad decisions to Dublin. Example league match against Kerry. Bad call to appoint him.
Wasn't he nominated for MOTM?
Yeah wrongly so, think they must have felt sorry for him. Don't get me wrong he is a top bloke and good player, im not targeting him, just disappointed he lied to national media, probably instructed to do so my the Mayo co management to try and get a player banned the next day.
Both AOS and COC were nominated for MOTM. I even laughed at another paper giving Paul Flynn the award.
Not too much mention of Cluxton kicking out.
What county are you from do you mind be asking ? I'm assuming it's one that's pretty shite
From what I saw of Dublin on Sunday you would need to get off your high horse if you think that team is anything special.
I was neutral watching the game but to be honest
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Why should Connolly get off?
Because Keegan hit him first. Clearly seen on the video.
And you can see hitman COC coming in to hit Dermo when he's on the ground. Brave man is Cillian.
Thing is when you go around acting the hard man it's usually advisable not to be playing the same opposition the following week
I posted a link a couple.of pages back to a video which shows Connolly hit Keegan first, and Cillian did not hit him at any stage. So you can withdraw those statements when you've realised you've been spouting nonsense
Look at it again, Keegan throws first slap. It's on social media and Joe.ie stating Keegan threw the first slap just after Connolly kicks a pass and is blocked from making a run
It's all coming out now, crying to the media.
Ye're the ones crying baby ;)
If you think Connolly is going to get off because he ll claim the other guy started it you haven t a clue.
Connolly's assault a lesser version of incident below. Repeatedly hitting an opponent who is in no position to defend himself. Connolly was similarly out of control and if he wasn t stopped could be looking at a long ban indeed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tz428AaGzoA
I don't recognise that sport but not even in the same radius as Keegan's/Connolly, both got up and made nothing of it until o Connor influenced the linesman. He won't get off because of that alone but video evidence plus the CCCC have no choice ala Keane who struck twice to the face , Connolly/ Keegan's is a much lesser offence, handbags.
More nonsense. Connolly was intent on continuing his assault when O Connor arrived. O Connor behaved with the utmost restraint in the circumstances - especially by calling the linesman attention. If he hadn t Keegan would have been opened and Connolly facing a lengthy ban indeed.
You should be writing short stories for the ufc website .......... Utter drivel, What of the upstanding OConnors forearm smash to OCarrolls head ....? Nothing, ah sure he was pulling out of him and deserved it
Christ ye're like a pinball machine jumping from incident to incident and trying to link them up.
'forearm smash to O Carrolls head' is the ultimate drivel, suggesting intent and wrecking ball force. Cop on and stop muddying the waters. O Carroll got caught with an arm outstretched in a gesture of frustration after being continuously held and checked. The tissue around the eye socket splits easily and its not nice to see anybody having injuries. Surprised he got stitches. Usually cuts like that are glued or stapled these days.
Cooper wrestled McLoughlin to ground in first minuted and didn t get digged like Keegan did.
If my neighbour Ger Cafferkey was acting the pup like O Carroll and Cooper and got cut in a gesture like that from Brogan or whoever I wouldn t be making a show of myself crying and trying to turn the tables and getting a player suspended that went out to play the game, like your friend The Aristocrat is.
Just to say, the reason O Carroll didn't come back on is his eye closed up and with his history of concussion also v Mayo it was the right call. A wild swing back but look what goes around comes around, maybe not this year but it will.
Secondly, I understand Connolly is not liked to say the least, yeah we know, t**ker, dub sc**bag, etc, but they targeted him and Keegan grappled him to the ground and Connolly tried his utmost to break free from him. O Connor acting like a Chelsea soccer player to the linesman. Poor form, thought better of Mayo, master of the dark arts who need 2 ( laughs) managers to try and get them over the line.
Have a good night all , good discussion.
More nonsense. I doubt you give us a second thought and I don t mind if you do or don t. Like Kerry ye don t care what ye need to do to win and like Kerry ye have a massive since of entitlement and a huge sense of resentment when ye don t always get ye're way - which ye usually do of course. In effect ye are spoiled and some of ye're players are spoiled as well. Others of course are top lads. Jack McCafferty and the Brogans are classy in every way.bloke too. What I was dismayed by Flynn's dismissive gesture to the tv camera at the end. Thought he was a quality was that about? Yer ould spin these last couple of day's Aristocrat has done nothing for your credibility.
Ah come on Moysider, in a thread that has gotten a bit out of hand , that comment about Flynn takes the biscuit.
His comment is pretty innocuous given some of the others. Donal Vaughan 'shoe shine boy' comes to mind.
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Quote from: The Aristocrat on September 01, 2015, 08:55:56 AM
Looks like the papers today have decided Connolly's faith. CRC /CCCC getting in contact with their non-Dub friends in the media asking them to write articles to help them to carry through Connolly's ban. Example is John Fogerty in the Examiner today, helping his friends out.
I see Aiden O Shea was watching straight out of Compton last night trying to learn how to toughen up and talk back to when he meets the gentleman Philip McMahon again. Aiden has a problem in big games, great against the Sligo's of this world but big games goes missing, in the 2013 All Ireland final they had to send out a search party for him.
A sad day for the CRC and CCCC if Connolly's 1 game ban is not overturned but we all know it wont as its agenda driven and Connolly is a hate figure. Looks like Mayo will have the ref again Saturday who notoriously gives very bad decisions to Dublin. Example league match against Kerry. Bad call to appoint him.
Wasn't he nominated for MOTM?
Yeah wrongly so, think they must have felt sorry for him. Don't get me wrong he is a top bloke and good player, im not targeting him, just disappointed he lied to national media, probably instructed to do so my the Mayo co management to try and get a player banned the next day.
Both AOS and COC were nominated for MOTM. I even laughed at another paper giving Paul Flynn the award.
Not too much mention of Cluxton kicking out.
What county are you from do you mind be asking ? I'm assuming it's one that's pretty shite
From what I saw of Dublin on Sunday you would need to get off your high horse if you think that team is anything special.
I was neutral watching the game but some of the behaviour from both sides makes the rest of the teams who were highlighted this summer seem like angels. Very surprised to see Cluxton get away with the kick.
Quote from: squire_in_navy_slacks on September 01, 2015, 10:08:58 AM
I'm surprised he didn't hit the deck he's a great man for the arms in the air and going down, sure he didn't have his spokesman cillian the ref beside him at the time, he grabbed McMahon by the scruff and pulled him into him.
Do you mean like the way Philly hit the deck clutching his face for 2 minutes? That was a Oscar nomination piece of acting allright. Maybe Mayo should take a leaf out of that carry on.
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What county are you from do you mind be asking ? I'm assuming it's one that's pretty shite
have a quarter of the country's population. millions poured in to Dublin GAA, massive sponsorship deals. play all games at home and have a ref who is afraid to give anything against de dubs. relying on culchee gene pool to produce decent footballers. 3 senior all irelands in 30 years and not even close to competing in hurling. many would consider that a sh!te county.
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Quote from: blanketattack on September 01, 2015, 09:27:52 AM
Quote from: The Aristocrat on September 01, 2015, 08:55:56 AM
Looks like the papers today have decided Connolly's faith. CRC /CCCC getting in contact with their non-Dub friends in the media asking them to write articles to help them to carry through Connolly's ban. Example is John Fogerty in the Examiner today, helping his friends out.
I see Aiden O Shea was watching straight out of Compton last night trying to learn how to toughen up and talk back to when he meets the gentleman Philip McMahon again. Aiden has a problem in big games, great against the Sligo's of this world but big games goes missing, in the 2013 All Ireland final they had to send out a search party for him.
A sad day for the CRC and CCCC if Connolly's 1 game ban is not overturned but we all know it wont as its agenda driven and Connolly is a hate figure. Looks like Mayo will have the ref again Saturday who notoriously gives very bad decisions to Dublin. Example league match against Kerry. Bad call to appoint him.
Wasn't he nominated for MOTM?
Yeah wrongly so, think they must have felt sorry for him. Don't get me wrong he is a top bloke and good player, im not targeting him, just disappointed he lied to national media, probably instructed to do so my the Mayo co management to try and get a player banned the next day.
Both AOS and COC were nominated for MOTM. I even laughed at another paper giving Paul Flynn the award.
Not too much mention of Cluxton kicking out.
What county are you from do you mind be asking ? I'm assuming it's one that's pretty shite
From what I saw of Dublin on Sunday you would need to get off your high horse if you think that team is anything special.
I was neutral watching the game but some of the behaviour from both sides makes the rest of the teams who were highlighted this summer seem like angels. Very surprised to see Cluxton get away with the kick.
Very true... except for Tyrone who deserved all they got!
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Some of the stuff here is going way overboard! there will be riots next Saturday if this keeps up.
Have you seen the racist abuse some of your fans have sent to Connolly on Twitter. It's nothing short of a disgrace .
Some of your fans are an absolute disgrace . You should be ashamed of yourselves . You do know it's only a football match .
Oh my, the irony!!!
The irony of what ? Threatening him with iron bars . stay classy their kid
No, I haven't even seen what was said to Connolly on twitter, I don't follow him. If someone threatened him and is giving him personal abuse, that's not on obviously and action can be taken if need be. We all know Diarmuid is well able to handle himself though...
The irony is you of all people coming out with the line "You do know it's only a football match". Your posts, along with squire and The Aristocrat have been nothing short of hysterical.
Hysterical, take a look at your own county with the blouse Aidan running to the media and every gombeen from here to Dubai with their mayo4sam rubbish, this is set up nicely for us on Saturday
FFS Squire can you be a little bit objective. O'Shea was asked a question and he answered. He didnt go running to the media, he gets interviewed after every game. You cant dent that that McMahon stuck the head into him , maybe if O'Shea dived to the ground holding his face he would have got more of a reaction.
Not accurate as pointed out on previous pages, even Pat McEanany , the head of the referees came out and said he didn't. Blatant attempt to get a player suspended because he couldn't get the better of him.
You are sheer comedy gold Aristo - right lets forget the "was it/wasn't it a headbutt".
You state that O'Shea made a blatant attempt to get a player suspended, can you then tell me what Philly McMahon's motive was for taking a dive/feigning a blow to the head?......
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Quote from: INDIANA on September 01, 2015, 09:44:29 AM
What county are you from do you mind be asking ? I'm assuming it's one that's pretty shite
have a quarter of the country's population. millions poured in to Dublin GAA, massive sponsorship deals. play all games at home and have a ref who is afraid to give anything against de dubs. relying on culchee gene pool to produce decent footballers. 3 senior all irelands in 30 years and not even close to competing in hurling. many would consider that a sh!te county.
Only Idiots bring up the population argument, id be embarrassed. Please go back to social media.
Other news: I'm hearing Connolly has a very good chance of getting off now. Hopefully so, a true gael who deserves a chance to play and not be stopped playing by players or CRC.
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Some of the stuff here is going way overboard! there will be riots next Saturday if this keeps up.
Have you seen the racist abuse some of your fans have sent to Connolly on Twitter. It's nothing short of a disgrace .
Some of your fans are an absolute disgrace . You should be ashamed of yourselves . You do know it's only a football match .
Oh my, the irony!!!
The irony of what ? Threatening him with iron bars . stay classy their kid
No, I haven't even seen what was said to Connolly on twitter, I don't follow him. If someone threatened him and is giving him personal abuse, that's not on obviously and action can be taken if need be. We all know Diarmuid is well able to handle himself though...
The irony is you of all people coming out with the line "You do know it's only a football match". Your posts, along with squire and The Aristocrat have been nothing short of hysterical.
Hysterical, take a look at your own county with the blouse Aidan running to the media and every gombeen from here to Dubai with their mayo4sam rubbish, this is set up nicely for us on Saturday
FFS Squire can you be a little bit objective. O'Shea was asked a question and he answered. He didnt go running to the media, he gets interviewed after every game. You cant dent that that McMahon stuck the head into him , maybe if O'Shea dived to the ground holding his face he would have got more of a reaction.
Not accurate as pointed out on previous pages, even Pat McEanany , the head of the referees came out and said he didn't. Blatant attempt to get a player suspended because he couldn't get the better of him.
You are sheer comedy gold Aristo - right lets forget the "was it/wasn't it a headbutt".
You state that O'Shea made a blatant attempt to get a player suspended, can you then tell me what Philly McMahon's motive was for taking a dive/feigning a blow to the head?......
Yeah no problem, he seen O Connor running towards the officials whinging and moaning again to try and influence them like he did when Connolly was assaulted by Keegan and O Connor.
Philly was my man of the match actually, did a hell of a job marking the best player in the country.
Mayos to lose now.
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Quote from: INDIANA on September 01, 2015, 09:44:29 AM
What county are you from do you mind be asking ? I'm assuming it's one that's pretty shite
have a quarter of the country's population. millions poured in to Dublin GAA, massive sponsorship deals. play all games at home and have a ref who is afraid to give anything against de dubs. relying on culchee gene pool to produce decent footballers. 3 senior all irelands in 30 years and not even close to competing in hurling. many would consider that a sh!te county.
Only Idiots bring up the population argument, id be embarrassed. Please go back to social media.
Other news: I'm hearing Connolly has a very good chance of getting off now. Hopefully so, a true gael who deserves a chance to play and not be stopped playing by players or CRC.
Ye're the equivalent of Real Madird and Barcelona in terms of resouces but the equivalent of Accrington Stanley when it comes to trophy haul.
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Yeah no problem, he seen O Connor running towards the officials whinging and moaning again to try and influence them like he did when Connolly was assaulted by Keegan and O Connor.
Philly was my man of the match actually, did a hell of a job marking the best player in the country.
Mayos to lose now.
I thought you didn't see any off the action between Philly and O'Shea ?
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Didn't see it! I was too busy watching Lee Keegan sledging Connolly all game, but heard there was no real contact.
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Quote from: INDIANA on September 01, 2015, 09:44:29 AM
What county are you from do you mind be asking ? I'm assuming it's one that's pretty shite
have a quarter of the country's population. millions poured in to Dublin GAA, massive sponsorship deals. play all games at home and have a ref who is afraid to give anything against de dubs. relying on culchee gene pool to produce decent footballers. 3 senior all irelands in 30 years and not even close to competing in hurling. many would consider that a sh!te county.
Only Idiots bring up the population argument, id be embarrassed. Please go back to social media.
Other news: I'm hearing Connolly has a very good chance of getting off now. Hopefully so, a true gael who deserves a chance to play and not be stopped playing by players or CRC.
What does the term 'true gael' mean exactly?
I don't really want to get into the arguments for and against the incidents already highlighted in what I must say is in a very calm reasoned almost philosphyical manner by both Mayo and Dublin supporters so far and to Indiana for his Trojan work in saving the GAA disciplinary proceedures from knee jerk reactions based on outlandish rumours realised in the aftermath of the match far away from the facts of the actual incidents that happened on the pitch.
However I do have one concern but somebody mentioned many posts back , that the sinned against Diarmuid Connolly should employ the Killian Keane defence when put before the CCCC. Killian Keane was a fine footballing center/outhalf for Garryowen and Munster back in the day but defence was not his forte so I would be very worried if Connolly applied "the Killian Keane Defence"!! I would say maybe if he would be better served by employing the " Philip Danagher defence" or if the CCCC are especially indignant in their approach the "Ger Earls defence" would definitely do the trick!!!
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Quote from: INDIANA on September 01, 2015, 09:44:29 AM
What county are you from do you mind be asking ? I'm assuming it's one that's pretty shite
have a quarter of the country's population. millions poured in to Dublin GAA, massive sponsorship deals. play all games at home and have a ref who is afraid to give anything against de dubs. relying on culchee gene pool to produce decent footballers. 3 senior all irelands in 30 years and not even close to competing in hurling. many would consider that a sh!te county.
Only Idiots bring up the population argument, id be embarrassed. Please go back to social media.
Other news: I'm hearing Connolly has a very good chance of getting off now. Hopefully so, a true gael who deserves a chance to play and not be stopped playing by players or CRC.
you're not wired to feel embarrassment
Quote from: The Aristocrat on September 01, 2015, 11:20:55 AM
Quote from: mikehunt on September 01, 2015, 11:02:04 AM
Quote from: INDIANA on September 01, 2015, 09:44:29 AM
What county are you from do you mind be asking ? I'm assuming it's one that's pretty shite
have a quarter of the country's population. millions poured in to Dublin GAA, massive sponsorship deals. play all games at home and have a ref who is afraid to give anything against de dubs. relying on culchee gene pool to produce decent footballers. 3 senior all irelands in 30 years and not even close to competing in hurling. many would consider that a sh!te county.
Only Idiots bring up the population argument, id be embarrassed. Please go back to social media.
Other news: I'm hearing Connolly has a very good chance of getting off now. Hopefully so, a true gael who deserves a chance to play and not be stopped playing by players or CRC.
Yes hearing the ban will be waived on successful completion of another anger management course!!
Quote from: The Aristocrat on September 01, 2015, 11:20:55 AM
Quote from: mikehunt on September 01, 2015, 11:02:04 AM
Quote from: INDIANA on September 01, 2015, 09:44:29 AM
What county are you from do you mind be asking ? I'm assuming it's one that's pretty shite
have a quarter of the country's population. millions poured in to Dublin GAA, massive sponsorship deals. play all games at home and have a ref who is afraid to give anything against de dubs. relying on culchee gene pool to produce decent footballers. 3 senior all irelands in 30 years and not even close to competing in hurling. many would consider that a sh!te county.
Only Idiots bring up the population argument, id be embarrassed. Please go back to social media.
Other news: I'm hearing Connolly has a very good chance of getting off now. Hopefully so, a true gael who deserves a chance to play and not be stopped playing by players or CRC.
I would also say Connolly will get off.
Based on your posts not much embarasses you so maybe it's a bit rich talking about embarassment.
I didn't know if you posted here you were better than those posting on social media. You learn something new every day.
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Quote from: ludermor on September 01, 2015, 09:32:24 AM
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Some of the stuff here is going way overboard! there will be riots next Saturday if this keeps up.
I was in McGraths at about 8pm on Sunday night. Good chats with few older Dublin supporters, sound lads and fair assessments of the game.
Word filtered through that it was kicking off outside...had a gawk out the door expecting to see a mix of colours going at it. Just blue jerseys pucking the heads off each other...had to laugh.
Probably soccer fans dressed as Dublin Gaa fans..
Quote from: Geoff Tipps on September 01, 2015, 11:51:36 AM
Quote from: The Aristocrat on September 01, 2015, 11:20:55 AM
Quote from: mikehunt on September 01, 2015, 11:02:04 AM
Quote from: INDIANA on September 01, 2015, 09:44:29 AM
What county are you from do you mind be asking ? I'm assuming it's one that's pretty shite
have a quarter of the country's population. millions poured in to Dublin GAA, massive sponsorship deals. play all games at home and have a ref who is afraid to give anything against de dubs. relying on culchee gene pool to produce decent footballers. 3 senior all irelands in 30 years and not even close to competing in hurling. many would consider that a sh!te county.
Only Idiots bring up the population argument, id be embarrassed. Please go back to social media.
Other news: I'm hearing Connolly has a very good chance of getting off now. Hopefully so, a true gael who deserves a chance to play and not be stopped playing by players or CRC.
Yes hearing the ban will be waived on successful completion of another anger management course!!
Would you say that if he was standing in front of you Geoff ? I doubt it. You're a brave man . Coward
Quote from: INDIANA on September 01, 2015, 11:59:57 AM
Quote from: Geoff Tipps on September 01, 2015, 11:51:36 AM
Quote from: The Aristocrat on September 01, 2015, 11:20:55 AM
Quote from: mikehunt on September 01, 2015, 11:02:04 AM
Quote from: INDIANA on September 01, 2015, 09:44:29 AM
What county are you from do you mind be asking ? I'm assuming it's one that's pretty shite
have a quarter of the country's population. millions poured in to Dublin GAA, massive sponsorship deals. play all games at home and have a ref who is afraid to give anything against de dubs. relying on culchee gene pool to produce decent footballers. 3 senior all irelands in 30 years and not even close to competing in hurling. many would consider that a sh!te county.
Only Idiots bring up the population argument, id be embarrassed. Please go back to social media.
Other news: I'm hearing Connolly has a very good chance of getting off now. Hopefully so, a true gael who deserves a chance to play and not be stopped playing by players or CRC.
Yes hearing the ban will be waived on successful completion of another anger management course!!
Would you say that if he was standing in front of you Geoff ? I doubt it. You're a brave man . Coward
Irony
Quote from: ludermor on September 01, 2015, 09:32:24 AM
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Some of the stuff here is going way overboard! there will be riots next Saturday if this keeps up.
Some of what they are posting is hilarious.
One woman wrote 'I wouldn't hear a bad word said against our Dermo'
I bet the poor fella who's jaw he broke in McGowans would say otherwise.
Quote from: INDIANA on September 01, 2015, 09:43:40 AM
Quote from: ludermor on September 01, 2015, 09:32:24 AM
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Some of the stuff here is going way overboard! there will be riots next Saturday if this keeps up.
Have you seen the racist abuse some of your fans have sent to Connolly on Twitter. It's nothing short of a disgrace .
Some of your fans are an absolute disgrace . You should be ashamed of yourselves . You do know it's only a football match .
Racist abuse? what sort of abuse? How do you racially abuse him? Some people are awful gobdaws.
Quote from: INDIANA on September 01, 2015, 11:59:57 AM
Quote from: Geoff Tipps on September 01, 2015, 11:51:36 AM
Yes hearing the ban will be waived on successful completion of another anger management course!!
Would you say that if he was standing in front of you Geoff ? I doubt it. You're a brave man . Coward
Indiana, I'm going to go out on a limb and say that you are not a lawyer.
Quote from: Geoff Tipps on September 01, 2015, 12:00:57 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on September 01, 2015, 11:59:57 AM
Quote from: Geoff Tipps on September 01, 2015, 11:51:36 AM
Quote from: The Aristocrat on September 01, 2015, 11:20:55 AM
Quote from: mikehunt on September 01, 2015, 11:02:04 AM
Quote from: INDIANA on September 01, 2015, 09:44:29 AM
What county are you from do you mind be asking ? I'm assuming it's one that's pretty shite
have a quarter of the country's population. millions poured in to Dublin GAA, massive sponsorship deals. play all games at home and have a ref who is afraid to give anything against de dubs. relying on culchee gene pool to produce decent footballers. 3 senior all irelands in 30 years and not even close to competing in hurling. many would consider that a sh!te county.
Only Idiots bring up the population argument, id be embarrassed. Please go back to social media.
Other news: I'm hearing Connolly has a very good chance of getting off now. Hopefully so, a true gael who deserves a chance to play and not be stopped playing by players or CRC.
Yes hearing the ban will be waived on successful completion of another anger management course!!
Would you say that if he was standing in front of you Geoff ? I doubt it. You're a brave man . Coward
Irony
It's true Geoff you're a coward . If you're personally insult someone put you name to it
I'll say it again you're a yellow bellied coward. I'd say you'd be the first man to hide on a football pitch . I'd say you spent your career doing it
Quote from: INDIANA on September 01, 2015, 11:59:57 AM
Quote from: Geoff Tipps on September 01, 2015, 11:51:36 AM
Quote from: The Aristocrat on September 01, 2015, 11:20:55 AM
Quote from: mikehunt on September 01, 2015, 11:02:04 AM
Quote from: INDIANA on September 01, 2015, 09:44:29 AM
What county are you from do you mind be asking ? I'm assuming it's one that's pretty shite
have a quarter of the country's population. millions poured in to Dublin GAA, massive sponsorship deals. play all games at home and have a ref who is afraid to give anything against de dubs. relying on culchee gene pool to produce decent footballers. 3 senior all irelands in 30 years and not even close to competing in hurling. many would consider that a sh!te county.
Only Idiots bring up the population argument, id be embarrassed. Please go back to social media.
Other news: I'm hearing Connolly has a very good chance of getting off now. Hopefully so, a true gael who deserves a chance to play and not be stopped playing by players or CRC.
Yes hearing the ban will be waived on successful completion of another anger management course!!
Would you say that if he was standing in front of you Geoff ? I doubt it. You're a brave man . Coward
If anyone would, Geoff would
Quote from: INDIANA on September 01, 2015, 12:03:31 PM
Quote from: Geoff Tipps on September 01, 2015, 12:00:57 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on September 01, 2015, 11:59:57 AM
Quote from: Geoff Tipps on September 01, 2015, 11:51:36 AM
Quote from: The Aristocrat on September 01, 2015, 11:20:55 AM
Quote from: mikehunt on September 01, 2015, 11:02:04 AM
Quote from: INDIANA on September 01, 2015, 09:44:29 AM
What county are you from do you mind be asking ? I'm assuming it's one that's pretty shite
have a quarter of the country's population. millions poured in to Dublin GAA, massive sponsorship deals. play all games at home and have a ref who is afraid to give anything against de dubs. relying on culchee gene pool to produce decent footballers. 3 senior all irelands in 30 years and not even close to competing in hurling. many would consider that a sh!te county.
Only Idiots bring up the population argument, id be embarrassed. Please go back to social media.
Other news: I'm hearing Connolly has a very good chance of getting off now. Hopefully so, a true gael who deserves a chance to play and not be stopped playing by players or CRC.
Yes hearing the ban will be waived on successful completion of another anger management course!!
Would you say that if he was standing in front of you Geoff ? I doubt it. You're a brave man . Coward
Irony
It's true Geoff you're a coward . If you're personally insult someone put you name to it
I'll say it again you're a yellow bellied coward. I'd say you'd be the first man to hide on a football pitch . I'd say you spent your career doing it
I bet you wouldn't say that to Geoff's face ;D ;D
All joking and messing aside lads, if someone needs anger management classes its a mental health issue and should not be sneered at or abused by fans or antagonised by players on the pitch.
If anyone spoke to Duirmuid outside of the playing pitch, he's a gent, a true club man and looking back in reeling in the years in 20 years time you would all be going, Jesus, what a player he was for club and county.
AZOffaly, I think what he means by raciest they are abusing comments against the travelling community, even though Connolly is not and I think what he means by cowards is people who personally abuse people behind keyboards.
At the end of the day, its a game, an amateur one at that.
Plenty on this board have completely lost the plot. I had thought it was the place for good, reasonable GAA debate but this thread has descended into a bit of a farce. It'd actually shock you the level of hatred that sometimes comes out in people (although I can only assume this is mostly from the vocal minority).
From a Mayo perspective I think we should go with the same set-up we started with the last day with maybe different personnel. Durcan will obviously start for Vaughan, don't think Drake will start again. They might go with Keane/Coen (or Cunniffe if fit) for Drake. More support to AOS and try and vary the play a bit more. Jack McC and Flynn (1st half) caused us a lot of problems - plans needed for these two, brilliant footballers. Our backs did alright on sun considering the quality of ball dublin were getting in in the first half, pretty much negating the sweeper (although you could argue the sweepers primary role is to cut out goal chances, which would have been achieved to a large extent if boyle had held his ground instead of charging straight into doherty for the dub penalty). We need to put the squeeze on around the middle more if we're not going to engage right up in their 45. So keep it tight again then maybe bring in barry/dillon/freeman/andy for impact.
Was behind the managementt on sunday and was impressed with them the last ten mins. They kept the heads and thought through every sub - plenty of them there to come to a consensus anyway!
Quote from: Chéad rogha on September 01, 2015, 12:12:29 PM
Plenty on this board have completely lost the plot. I had thought it was the place for good, reasonable GAA debate but this thread has descended into a bit of a farce. It'd actually shock you the level of hatred that sometimes comes out in people (although I can only assume this is mostly from the vocal minority).
I'm grateful some of the stuff I said/thought after the 1998 Munster final replay isn't recorded for posterity.
Quote from: macdanger2 on September 01, 2015, 12:10:03 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on September 01, 2015, 12:03:31 PM
Quote from: Geoff Tipps on September 01, 2015, 12:00:57 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on September 01, 2015, 11:59:57 AM
Quote from: Geoff Tipps on September 01, 2015, 11:51:36 AM
Quote from: The Aristocrat on September 01, 2015, 11:20:55 AM
Quote from: mikehunt on September 01, 2015, 11:02:04 AM
Quote from: INDIANA on September 01, 2015, 09:44:29 AM
What county are you from do you mind be asking ? I'm assuming it's one that's pretty shite
have a quarter of the country's population. millions poured in to Dublin GAA, massive sponsorship deals. play all games at home and have a ref who is afraid to give anything against de dubs. relying on culchee gene pool to produce decent footballers. 3 senior all irelands in 30 years and not even close to competing in hurling. many would consider that a sh!te county.
Only Idiots bring up the population argument, id be embarrassed. Please go back to social media.
Other news: I'm hearing Connolly has a very good chance of getting off now. Hopefully so, a true gael who deserves a chance to play and not be stopped playing by players or CRC.
Yes hearing the ban will be waived on successful completion of another anger management course!!
Would you say that if he was standing in front of you Geoff ? I doubt it. You're a brave man . Coward
Irony
It's true Geoff you're a coward . If you're personally insult someone put you name to it
I'll say it again you're a yellow bellied coward. I'd say you'd be the first man to hide on a football pitch . I'd say you spent your career doing it
I bet you wouldn't say that to Geoff's face ;D ;D
When Geoff throws you into a bottomless pit, you hit the bottom
Quote from: The Aristocrat on September 01, 2015, 12:11:38 PM
All joking and messing aside lads, if someone needs anger management classes its a mental health issue and should not be sneered at or abused by fans or antagonised by players on the pitch.
If anyone spoke to Duirmuid outside of the playing pitch, he's a gent, a true club man and looking back in reeling in the years in 20 years time you would all be going, Jesus, what a player he was for club and county.
AZOffaly, I think what he means by raciest they are abusing comments against the travelling community, even though Connolly is not and I think what he means by cowards is people who personally abuse people behind keyboards.
At the end of the day, its a game, an amateur won at that.
The travelling community? Sure INDIANA himself called all Mayo people itinerants yesterday.
Quote from: JoG2 on September 01, 2015, 12:15:55 PM
When Larry Reilly throws you into a bottomless pit, you hit the bottom
Fixed that for you.
Quote from: laoislad on September 01, 2015, 12:16:27 PM
Quote from: The Aristocrat on September 01, 2015, 12:11:38 PM
All joking and messing aside lads, if someone needs anger management classes its a mental health issue and should not be sneered at or abused by fans or antagonised by players on the pitch.
If anyone spoke to Duirmuid outside of the playing pitch, he's a gent, a true club man and looking back in reeling in the years in 20 years time you would all be going, Jesus, what a player he was for club and county.
AZOffaly, I think what he means by raciest they are abusing comments against the travelling community, even though Connolly is not and I think what he means by cowards is people who personally abuse people behind keyboards.
At the end of the day, its a game, an amateur won at that.
The travelling community? Sure INDIANA himself called all Mayo people itinerants yesterday.
Read it in its context and see the post he was replying to. Anyway its not about who or where or why, its wrong, shouldn't be brought into to sport.
When the CRC do the honourable thing of recinding the red card and is allowed to play Saturday then maybe justice will be done but its hard to win when the GAA, media , ref and officials (who have a strong history of giving more to the opposing team that play Dublin) and the viral abuse online by the country folk, it will be hard, Mayo by 6 or 7.
Quote from: The Aristocrat on September 01, 2015, 12:11:38 PM
All joking and messing aside lads, if someone needs anger management classes its a mental health issue and should not be sneered at or abused by fans or antagonised by players on the pitch.
If anyone spoke to Duirmuid outside of the playing pitch, he's a gent, a true club man and looking back in reeling in the years in 20 years time you would all be going, Jesus, what a player he was for club and county.
AZOffaly, I think what he means by raciest they are abusing comments against the travelling community, even though Connolly is not and I think what he means by cowards is people who personally abuse people behind keyboards.
At the end of the day, its a game, an amateur one at that.
So you're ok if you speak to him, but you need to be careful if you're innocently drinking a pint minding your own business as there is a high chance he might just break your eye-socket.
The 'country folk' ;D
Quote from: INDIANA on September 01, 2015, 12:03:31 PM
Quote from: Geoff Tipps on September 01, 2015, 12:00:57 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on September 01, 2015, 11:59:57 AM
Quote from: Geoff Tipps on September 01, 2015, 11:51:36 AM
Quote from: The Aristocrat on September 01, 2015, 11:20:55 AM
Quote from: mikehunt on September 01, 2015, 11:02:04 AM
Quote from: INDIANA on September 01, 2015, 09:44:29 AM
What county are you from do you mind be asking ? I'm assuming it's one that's pretty shite
have a quarter of the country's population. millions poured in to Dublin GAA, massive sponsorship deals. play all games at home and have a ref who is afraid to give anything against de dubs. relying on culchee gene pool to produce decent footballers. 3 senior all irelands in 30 years and not even close to competing in hurling. many would consider that a sh!te county.
Only Idiots bring up the population argument, id be embarrassed. Please go back to social media.
Other news: I'm hearing Connolly has a very good chance of getting off now. Hopefully so, a true gael who deserves a chance to play and not be stopped playing by players or CRC.
Yes hearing the ban will be waived on successful completion of another anger management course!!
Would you say that if he was standing in front of you Geoff ? I doubt it. You're a brave man . Coward
Irony
It's true Geoff you're a coward . If you're personally insult someone put you name to it
I'll say it again you're a yellow bellied coward. I'd say you'd be the first man to hide on a football pitch . I'd say you spent your career doing it
Don't think I've personally insulted him here. Perhaps you can explain yourself??
There's no where to hide on the football pitch. We both know that ;)
I have to say, Aristocrat has raised his game since the draw. He's more comfortable in this role than the Yerra role he tried to play before the game :)
As for abusing Diarmuid Connolly, it's pathetic. He has been very well in control of his temper for a long while now. He'll be disappointed himself that he let himself get too wound up on Sunday, but there's no need for some of the insults flying his direction.
We're awful quick to play the abuse card when it's not one of our own. Sad to see.
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Quote from: The Aristocrat on September 01, 2015, 12:11:38 PM
All joking and messing aside lads, if someone needs anger management classes its a mental health issue and should not be sneered at or abused by fans or antagonised by players on the pitch.
If anyone spoke to Duirmuid outside of the playing pitch, he's a gent, a true club man and looking back in reeling in the years in 20 years time you would all be going, Jesus, what a player he was for club and county.
AZOffaly, I think what he means by raciest they are abusing comments against the travelling community, even though Connolly is not and I think what he means by cowards is people who personally abuse people behind keyboards.
At the end of the day, its a game, an amateur one at that.
So you're ok if you speak to him, but you need to be careful if you're innocently drinking a pint minding your own business as there is a high chance he might just break your eye-socket.
Your going away from the game man, that happened three years ago, people deserve a second chance? I know scruff Parkinson did enjoying a nice gig with Off the Ball now.
Quote from: laoislad on September 01, 2015, 12:24:02 PM
The 'country folk' ;D
Didnt want to use the other word, that alright with you.
The other word? Culchie is okay :)
I have sympathy for Connolly, people know he has a short fuse and the more he lashes out when riled the more people will target him. I think the referees need to give him a bit more protection. The incident itself did not seem to have anything really untoward with it, checking runs like that is commonplace enough.
But again, if the reporting of that match didn't tell you about the clear bias of the reporting that exists depending on the geographical location of team involved then I don't know what will.
Quote from: The Aristocrat on September 01, 2015, 12:11:38 PM
All joking and messing aside lads, if someone needs anger management classes its a mental health issue and should not be sneered at or abused by fans or antagonised by players on the pitch.
If anyone spoke to Duirmuid outside of the playing pitch, he's a gent, a true club man and looking back in reeling in the years in 20 years time you would all be going, Jesus, what a player he was for club and county.
AZOffaly, I think what he means by raciest they are abusing comments against the travelling community, even though Connolly is not and I think what he means by cowards is people who personally abuse people behind keyboards.
At the end of the day, its a game, an amateur one at that.
typical of de dubs over the years to try and bully and intimidate opposition teams and throw their toys out of the pram when it's put up to them. All fine and dandy when they're walloping Longford by 50 points but different kettle of fish when faced with a more skillful, disciplined and physically stronger outfit, then they resort to type and bring the dirt.I had began to soften my stance on them since Gavin took over but he's no different than the likes of Caffrey the honourable gurad who encouraged the bully boy tactics. Remember his cowardly shoulder in to the back of one of the Mayo backroom team. GAA then had the neck to introduce a law that allocated the hill to Dublin when warming up.Typical GAA bias towards the major revenue generators.
Do you think Dublin are getting an easy ride Bomber? I think they are getting quite a bit of flak.
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on September 01, 2015, 12:45:18 PM
The incident itself did not seem to have anything really untoward with it, checking runs like that is commonplace enough.
Have a look at this video clip and you'll see that it was Connolly who started the incident in which he ended up getting the line. I've no doubt he was targeted at various points in the game but this one was of his own making
https://t.co/IYZoJ7S73b
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Some of the stuff here is going way overboard! there will be riots next Saturday if this keeps up.
I was in McGraths at about 8pm on Sunday night. Good chats with few older Dublin supporters, sound lads and fair assessments of the game.
Word filtered through that it was kicking off outside...had a gawk out the door expecting to see a mix of colours going at it. Just blue jerseys pucking the heads off each other...had to laugh.
Probably soccer fans dressed as Dublin Gaa fans..
Biggest soccer analogy I saw was COC's role in DCs red card. Hope he's suitably embarrassed but doubt it. I expect he'll try his best to ref the replay as well
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Looks like the papers today have decided Connolly's faith. CRC /CCCC getting in contact with their non-Dub friends in the media asking them to write articles to help them to carry through Connolly's ban. Example is John Fogerty in the Examiner today, helping his friends out.
I see Aiden O Shea was watching straight out of Compton last night trying to learn how to toughen up and talk back to when he meets the gentleman Philip McMahon again. Aiden has a problem in big games, great against the Sligo's of this world but big games goes missing, in the 2013 All Ireland final they had to send out a search party for him.
A sad day for the CRC and CCCC if Connolly's 1 game ban is not overturned but we all know it wont as its agenda driven and Connolly is a hate figure. Looks like Mayo will have the ref again Saturday who notoriously gives very bad decisions to Dublin. Example league match against Kerry. Bad call to appoint him.
Wasn't he nominated for MOTM?
Yeah wrongly so, think they must have felt sorry for him. Don't get me wrong he is a top bloke and good player, im not targeting him, just disappointed he lied to national media, probably instructed to do so my the Mayo co management to try and get a player banned the next day.
Both AOS and COC were nominated for MOTM. I even laughed at another paper giving Paul Flynn the award.
Not too much mention of Cluxton kicking out.
What county are you from do you mind be asking ? I'm assuming it's one that's pretty shite
From what I saw of Dublin on Sunday you would need to get off your high horse if you think that team is anything special.
I was neutral watching the game but some of the behaviour from both sides makes the rest of the teams who were highlighted this summer seem like angels. Very surprised to see Cluxton get away with the kick.
Any attempt to cite Cluxton would only highlight the fact that the ref hadn't the guts to give OSe a black card for the pull down that led to the kick. They wouldn't want to open that can of worms !
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Quote from: ludermor on September 01, 2015, 09:32:24 AM
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Some of the stuff here is going way overboard! there will be riots next Saturday if this keeps up.
I was in McGraths at about 8pm on Sunday night. Good chats with few older Dublin supporters, sound lads and fair assessments of the game.
Word filtered through that it was kicking off outside...had a gawk out the door expecting to see a mix of colours going at it. Just blue jerseys pucking the heads off each other...had to laugh.
Probably soccer fans dressed as Dublin Gaa fans..
Biggest soccer analogy I saw was COC's role in DCs red card. Hope he's suitably embarrassed but doubt it. I expect he'll try his best to ref the replay as well
Biggest soccer analogy i saw was McMahon diving and feigning injury. Hope hes suitably embarrassed but doubt it
Quote from: macdanger2 on September 01, 2015, 12:48:57 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on September 01, 2015, 12:45:18 PM
The incident itself did not seem to have anything really untoward with it, checking runs like that is commonplace enough.
Have a look at this video clip and you'll see that it was Connolly who started the incident in which he ended up getting the line. I've no doubt he was targeted at various points in the game but this one was of his own making
https://t.co/IYZoJ7S73b
Yeah, I don't think the incident was anything really more than the type of marking job you'd expect on one of the opposition's main players. The yellow to Keegan and red to Connolly was the right call from the referee but I don't think Mayo can have any complaints if he gets his suspension overturned given they successfully appealed a clear as day red card for Keane.
Quote from: mikehunt on September 01, 2015, 12:47:00 PM
Quote from: The Aristocrat on September 01, 2015, 12:11:38 PM
All joking and messing aside lads, if someone needs anger management classes its a mental health issue and should not be sneered at or abused by fans or antagonised by players on the pitch.
If anyone spoke to Duirmuid outside of the playing pitch, he's a gent, a true club man and looking back in reeling in the years in 20 years time you would all be going, Jesus, what a player he was for club and county.
AZOffaly, I think what he means by raciest they are abusing comments against the travelling community, even though Connolly is not and I think what he means by cowards is people who personally abuse people behind keyboards.
At the end of the day, its a game, an amateur one at that.
typical of de dubs over the years to try and bully and intimidate opposition teams and throw their toys out of the pram when it's put up to them. All fine and dandy when they're walloping Longford by 50 points but different kettle of fish when faced with a more skillful, disciplined and physically stronger outfit, then they resort to type and bring the dirt.I had began to soften my stance on them since Gavin took over but he's no different than the likes of Caffrey the honourable gurad who encouraged the bully boy tactics. Remember his cowardly shoulder in to the back of one of the Mayo backroom team. GAA then had the neck to introduce a law that allocated the hill to Dublin when warming up.Typical GAA bias towards the major revenue generators.
Thanks for the reply Mike, stop bringing up the past, its 2015 now man. Totally different. Pillar nice bloke, Guard as well, good club man down Na Fianna, manages numerous teams, top guy.
I understand your hatred for the Dubs, I do man, but I suggest you find a quiet room away from all other people and scream at the top of your voice and let it all out.
It's strange that people from either side can be so blinkered.
Yes Keegan targeted Connolly to try and wind him up. Not because Connolly is a tr**p off the pitch but because he's the best player that Dublin have. Likewise McMahon targeted AOS because he's the best on the mayo team. It's to be expected.
The difference is Connolly eventually took the bait and gave Keegan a dig, AOS kept the head all day
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on September 01, 2015, 01:04:50 PM
It's strange that people from either side can be so blinkered.
Yes Keegan targeted Connolly to try and wind him up. Not because Connolly is a tr**p off the pitch but because he's the best player that Dublin have. Likewise McMahon targeted AOS because he's the best on the mayo team. It's to be expected.
The difference is Connolly eventually took the bait and gave Keegan a dig, AOS kept the head all day
Inaccurate, one mistake in life doesn't make you that, a gentleman, a great club man and a hero.
O Shea just didn't get caught, gave as good as he got and then went to the media to tell them about it.
This thread is great value ;D
As for Diarmuid Connolly he is a bit of an enigma. I love him as a footballer. He's sheer class.
He's also a bit of a thug (in footballing terms before some people shit themselves) and whether you care to admit it or not every good team needs a thug. Some teams go about their thuggish behaviour discretely while others are less conspicuous. Some teams do it collectively others do it individually. Obviously those in the latter categories can become a liability as we have seen with DC's sending off. Sometimes their antics pay off and sometimes they don't. IMO they are a necessary evil. They bring bite to a game. They get the crowd going. Long live thuggish behaviour.
If DC played for your own county you'd absolutely love him.
Quote from: The Aristocrat on September 01, 2015, 01:00:52 PM
Thanks for the reply Mike, stop bringing up the past, its 2015 now man. Totally different. Pillar nice bloke, Guard as well, good club man down Na Fianna, manages numerous teams, top guy.
No wonder Dublin is like Mogadishu if that's the type you have policing your streets.
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on September 01, 2015, 12:45:18 PM
I have sympathy for Connolly, people know he has a short fuse and the more he lashes out when riled the more people will target him. I think the referees need to give him a bit more protection. The incident itself did not seem to have anything really untoward with it, checking runs like that is commonplace enough.
Good point. It is commonplace in all games now. It happened loads of times to Mayo on Sunday as well and happens throughout the entire championship. So why should Connolly get any special treatment as no one else gets it?
Then he lashes out and we're supposed to say "Aww, sure lookit he's got anger management problems".
That's not an excuse. In fact I thought he had dealt with them .
Evidently not.
Quote from: mikehunt on September 01, 2015, 01:10:52 PM
Quote from: The Aristocrat on September 01, 2015, 01:00:52 PM
Thanks for the reply Mike, stop bringing up the past, its 2015 now man. Totally different. Pillar nice bloke, Guard as well, good club man down Na Fianna, manages numerous teams, top guy.
No wonder Dublin is like Mogadishu if that's the type you have policing your streets.
;D
I've been to Mogadishu, nice spot, nice locals, good food, a place there called Jimmy's Tavern, if your over in Somalia, that's the place to be, they don't call it the white pearl of the Indian ocean for nothing. Dublin is like the blue pearl, greatest city in the world, most friendliest city too.
Quote from: general_lee on September 01, 2015, 01:09:08 PM
This thread is great value ;D
As for Diarmuid Connolly he is a bit of an enigma. I love him as a footballer. He's sheer class.
He's also a bit of a thug (in footballing terms before some people shit themselves) and whether you care to admit it or not every good team needs a thug. Some teams go about their thuggish behaviour discretely while others are less conspicuous. Some teams do it collectively others do it individually. Obviously those in the latter categories can become a liability as we have seen with DC's sending off. Sometimes their antics pay off and sometimes they don't. IMO they are a necessary evil. They bring bite to a game. They get the crowd going. Long live thuggish behaviour.
If DC played for your own county you'd absolutely love him.
Not too sure, sent off twice, once due to a Donegal player diving and this year due a wrong ref decision. Gets assaulted and abused every game by players and fans.
Philly Mc never sent off in champo.
Both gents, great club men, do a lot for their club and train kids etc, no media etc. Its great, both well liked and good role models.
Quote from: Nihilist on September 01, 2015, 01:14:06 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on September 01, 2015, 12:45:18 PM
I have sympathy for Connolly, people know he has a short fuse and the more he lashes out when riled the more people will target him. I think the referees need to give him a bit more protection. The incident itself did not seem to have anything really untoward with it, checking runs like that is commonplace enough.
Good point. It is commonplace in all games now. It happened loads of times to Mayo on Sunday as well and happens throughout the entire championship. So why should Connolly get any special treatment as no one else gets it?
Then he lashes out and we're supposed to say "Aww, sure lookit he's got anger management problems".
That's not an excuse. In fact I thought he had dealt with them .
Evidently not.
I don't believe he should get special treatment for checking runs but I do believe teams go out and target him and rile him up. Most teams target the best opposition players in this regard, Sean Cavanagh has been on the receiving end of it for years but Cavanagh has a great temperament and has been able to use this to his advantage a lot of the time. I wasn't at the game so I'd probably missed a lot of the off the ball stuff you would absorb at the match, I'm sure O'Shea was targetted by McMahon but O'Shea has a good temperament and wasn't falling for it. Connolly is a hot head and although he has done well controlling it in the past, history dictates that if you wind him up, he'll snap and it works, therefore the incentive is there for teams to engage in this with Connolly. I think he needs a bit more vigilance from referees in this regard.
Quote from: macdanger2 on September 01, 2015, 12:48:57 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on September 01, 2015, 12:45:18 PM
The incident itself did not seem to have anything really untoward with it, checking runs like that is commonplace enough.
Have a look at this video clip and you'll see that it was Connolly who started the incident in which he ended up getting the line. I've no doubt he was targeted at various points in the game but this one was of his own making
https://t.co/IYZoJ7S73b
Thanks for that. First time I've seen it.
Not sure how you can say Connolly started it. Keegan put his right arm out to block his run. Connolly pushed his right arm out to push Keegan away. Keegan grabbed him to stop his run, Connolly grab him back and both went to ground. A lot of handbags on the ground, then there's one strike by Connolly, but the angle doesn't show whether there was any connection. Nothing at all from Keegan's reaction would indicate he was struck. Then they both get up and run off side-by-side as if nothing happened! It was only Cillian crying to the linesman that resulted in the red card.
The linesman didn't see whether there was an actual strike or not. He had a similar view to the camera. So he could only have acknowledged an "attempt to strike". So if the ref's report says strike rather than attempted strike , perhaps there's a chance he'll get off.
Overall it was a nothing incident and would be very harsh to miss an All Ireland semi final over
I would have been more confident of a successful appeal if the Keane one hadn't happened. The criticism the CCCC got over that might make them unlikely to over-turn a decision this time.
Attempting to strike is still a red card so I don't see why he would get off? Regardless of what the ref says In his report it's still a red card offence
What a load of shite!!
Michael Murphy is subjected to plenty of shite and you don't see him trying to take the heads off boys or crying to the newspapers (a lá Cavanagh). Likewise AOS gets plenty of abuse on the field but doesn't raise his fists so you lads whinging about Connolly getting unfairly treated need to realise that he's not getting it worse than other top players and that unless he gets his temper in check this will keep happening.
Murphy in his younger days had a discipline problem but got it sorted out fairly sharpish. Connolly is 28 now and in fairness to him he's not complaining about it in the papers and didn't make a big deal about it on Sunday. The fact you lads are making excuses for him and saying that he's the only one who suffers from this type of thing is making it worse, you would want to sit back and look at things in the cold light of day.
Your incessant ramblings and conspiracy theorys are actually giving Connolly a bad name and blowing this thing completely out of proportion when really all he did was react badly to a bit of niggly stuff which he should know better than to do! He should take his ban and move on!
Quote from: The Aristocrat on September 01, 2015, 01:24:31 PM
Quote from: mikehunt on September 01, 2015, 01:10:52 PM
Quote from: The Aristocrat on September 01, 2015, 01:00:52 PM
Thanks for the reply Mike, stop bringing up the past, its 2015 now man. Totally different. Pillar nice bloke, Guard as well, good club man down Na Fianna, manages numerous teams, top guy.
No wonder Dublin is like Mogadishu if that's the type you have policing your streets.
;D
I've been to Mogadishu, nice spot, nice locals, good food, a place there called Jimmy's Tavern, if your over in Somalia, that's the place to be, they don't call it the white pearl of the Indian ocean for nothing. Dublin is like the blue pearl, greatest city in the world, most friendliest city too.
Quote from: general_lee on September 01, 2015, 01:09:08 PM
This thread is great value ;D
As for Diarmuid Connolly he is a bit of an enigma. I love him as a footballer. He's sheer class.
He's also a bit of a thug (in footballing terms before some people shit themselves) and whether you care to admit it or not every good team needs a thug. Some teams go about their thuggish behaviour discretely while others are less conspicuous. Some teams do it collectively others do it individually. Obviously those in the latter categories can become a liability as we have seen with DC's sending off. Sometimes their antics pay off and sometimes they don't. IMO they are a necessary evil. They bring bite to a game. They get the crowd going. Long live thuggish behaviour.
If DC played for your own county you'd absolutely love him.
Not too sure, sent off twice, once due to a Donegal player diving and this year due a wrong ref decision. Gets assaulted and abused every game by players and fans.
Philly Mc never sent off in champo.
Both gents, great club men, do a lot for their club and train kids etc, no media etc. Its great, both well liked and good role models.
ach would you devalve ffs. Nobody is questioning whether these men are the next mother Theresa or not. If you act the tube on the football pitch, expect consequences. And grow a set of balls and call these incidents for what they are.
McMahon: Category III Infractions
5.8 To strike or to attempt to strike an opponent
with the head.
Connolly: Category II Infractions
5.1 To strike or to attempt to strike an opponent
with arm, elbow, hand or knee
Read the above, take note. Close down the computer, switch off the 3G / wi-fi on the phone. Go out for a walk
Quote from: general_lee on September 01, 2015, 01:37:51 PM
Attempting to strike is still a red card so I don't see why he would get off? Regardless of what the ref says In his report it's still a red card offence
Agreed. Except if seems if you are a Mayo footballer.
This is why I think DC will play next Saturday and GAA will have to put up hands and acknowledge that the whole disciplinary proceduresis a mess , be torn up and rewritten over the winter.
Just a thought regarding Alan Brogan.
Clear concussion at the end when Paul Flynn went through him by accident. Didn't know where he was.
Return to play protocols are clear for this, no return to play within 7 days. Can't see the medical team being pushed on this, too much is known of the dangers now. 2nd impact syndrome is fatal.
He'll be a big loss, would have been likely to take some part next Saturday. Class player.
Quote from: JoG2 on September 01, 2015, 01:52:12 PM
Quote from: The Aristocrat on September 01, 2015, 01:24:31 PM
Quote from: mikehunt on September 01, 2015, 01:10:52 PM
Quote from: The Aristocrat on September 01, 2015, 01:00:52 PM
Thanks for the reply Mike, stop bringing up the past, its 2015 now man. Totally different. Pillar nice bloke, Guard as well, good club man down Na Fianna, manages numerous teams, top guy.
No wonder Dublin is like Mogadishu if that's the type you have policing your streets.
;D
I've been to Mogadishu, nice spot, nice locals, good food, a place there called Jimmy's Tavern, if your over in Somalia, that's the place to be, they don't call it the white pearl of the Indian ocean for nothing. Dublin is like the blue pearl, greatest city in the world, most friendliest city too.
Quote from: general_lee on September 01, 2015, 01:09:08 PM
This thread is great value ;D
As for Diarmuid Connolly he is a bit of an enigma. I love him as a footballer. He's sheer class.
He's also a bit of a thug (in footballing terms before some people shit themselves) and whether you care to admit it or not every good team needs a thug. Some teams go about their thuggish behaviour discretely while others are less conspicuous. Some teams do it collectively others do it individually. Obviously those in the latter categories can become a liability as we have seen with DC's sending off. Sometimes their antics pay off and sometimes they don't. IMO they are a necessary evil. They bring bite to a game. They get the crowd going. Long live thuggish behaviour.
If DC played for your own county you'd absolutely love him.
Not too sure, sent off twice, once due to a Donegal player diving and this year due a wrong ref decision. Gets assaulted and abused every game by players and fans.
Philly Mc never sent off in champo.
Both gents, great club men, do a lot for their club and train kids etc, no media etc. Its great, both well liked and good role models.
ach would you devalve ffs. Nobody is questioning whether these men are the next mother Theresa or not. If you act the tube on the football pitch, expect consequences. And grow a set of balls and call these incidents for what they are.
McMahon: Category III Infractions
5.8 To strike or to attempt to strike an opponent
with the head.
Connolly: Category II Infractions
5.1 To strike or to attempt to strike an opponent
with arm, elbow, hand or knee
Read the above, take note. Close down the computer, switch off the 3G / wi-fi on the phone. Go out for a walk
Fair enough................ but please explain then why those offences did not result in suspensions for 2 Mayo footballers in the last 12 months or so.
If they both had served suspensions then I don't think any Dublin poster here would be denying that a suspension should kick in for DC , but probably whinging about the facts of what happened.
They deserved the suspensions too. No one is debating that but two wrongs don't make a right.
Whatever about the McMahon "headbutt" the punches on Boyle post him winning the penalty weren't great either.
Quote from: ballinaman on September 01, 2015, 02:08:39 PM
Just a thought regarding Alan Brogan.
Clear concussion at the end when Paul Flynn went through him by accident. Didn't know where he was.
Return to play protocols are clear for this, no return to play within 7 days. Can't see the medical team being pushed on this, too much is known of the dangers now. 2nd impact syndrome is fatal.
He'll be a big loss, would have been likely to take some part next Saturday. Class player.
I'd imagine he wasn't diagnosed (is that the right adjective) on Saturday and will be free to play. You'd hope nothing happens to him the next day, he's a class act, his point, Bernard's last point, Connollys first point (I think) and Diarmuid O'Cs points were all top class. Bernard's in particular, absolutely outstanding
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on September 01, 2015, 02:15:56 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on September 01, 2015, 02:08:39 PM
Just a thought regarding Alan Brogan.
Clear concussion at the end when Paul Flynn went through him by accident. Didn't know where he was.
Return to play protocols are clear for this, no return to play within 7 days. Can't see the medical team being pushed on this, too much is known of the dangers now. 2nd impact syndrome is fatal.
He'll be a big loss, would have been likely to take some part next Saturday. Class player.
I'd imagine he wasn't diagnosed (is that the right adjective) on Saturday and will be free to play. You'd hope nothing happens to him the next day, he's a class act, his point, Bernard's last point, Connollys first point (I think) and Diarmuid O'Cs points were all top class. Bernard's in particular, absolutely outstanding
No definitive diagnostic test for concussion currently but you take into account the mechanism of injury and symptoms. Well I'd imagine the Dublin medical team are excellent and player welfare trumps everything else. Clear case of concussion as you'd see if you watch the tape.
Have great time for him as a player and seems like a good fella, very unlucky.
Class act as a footballer - was looking forward to seeing him get a start on the half foward line in Connolly's absence - if there's one man who knows how to get the ball into Berno it is Alan. Was he concussed? Haven't watched the game back, but I thought at the time he was heavily winded, not concussed.
Paul Flynn I hear is now up at the CRC/CCCC on Thursday for his tackle on Alan Brogan. 2 month ban proposed.
Also thanks for the private messages guys, appreciate them, nice, friendly and pleasant.
Quote from: easytiger95 on September 01, 2015, 02:30:11 PM
Class act as a footballer - was looking forward to seeing him get a start on the half foward line in Connolly's absence - if there's one man who knows how to get the ball into Berno it is Alan. Was he concussed? Haven't watched the game back, but I thought at the time he was heavily winded, not concussed.
He did look completely out of it - took a fair old belt.
Quote from: easytiger95 on September 01, 2015, 02:30:11 PM
Class act as a footballer - was looking forward to seeing him get a start on the half foward line in Connolly's absence - if there's one man who knows how to get the ball into Berno it is Alan. Was he concussed? Haven't watched the game back, but I thought at the time he was heavily winded, not concussed.
Flynn went to punch the ball and punched Brogan in the side of the head. Brogan went down and didn't move for a few seconds. Potential loss of consciousness for a few seconds there.
Medical staff on quickly.
When camera comes back..medics helping him up and he staggers and needs help to stand.
Vacant look in eyes then and takes a few seconds and deep breaths and jogs off without help of medics.
Ref blows up match then.
Direct impact to head, potential loss of consciousness, unsteady on feet and vacant stare. Good few things there that would suggest concussion.
Quote from: ballinaman
.... went down and didn't move for a few seconds. ..medics helping him up and he staggers and needs help to stand.
Vacant look in eyes then and takes a few seconds and deep breaths and jogs off without help of medics.
Direct impact to head, potential loss of consciousness, unsteady on feet and vacant stare.
An apt description of your average A+E patient in James'
Quote from: The Aristocrat on September 01, 2015, 02:33:55 PM
Paul Flynn I hear is now up at the CRC/CCCC on Thursday for his tackle on Alan Brogan. 2 month ban proposed.
Also thanks for the private messages guys, appreciate them, nice, friendly and pleasant.
Any time Aristo, any time.
Quote from: Farrandeelin on September 01, 2015, 04:57:36 PM
Quote from: The Aristocrat on September 01, 2015, 02:33:55 PM
Paul Flynn I hear is now up at the CRC/CCCC on Thursday for his tackle on Alan Brogan. 2 month ban proposed.
Also thanks for the private messages guys, appreciate them, nice, friendly and pleasant.
Any time Aristo, any time.
Sure the 'country folk' are nice like that begorrah begorrah.
Quote from: Farrandeelin on September 01, 2015, 04:57:36 PM
Quote from: The Aristocrat on September 01, 2015, 02:33:55 PM
Paul Flynn I hear is now up at the CRC/CCCC on Thursday for his tackle on Alan Brogan. 2 month ban proposed.
Also thanks for the private messages guys, appreciate them, nice, friendly and pleasant.
Any time Aristo, any time.
I didn't get any p.ms :-* the oul twitching prostate and all
Quote from: The Aristocrat on September 01, 2015, 01:24:31 PM
Philly Mc never sent off in champo.
Both gents, great club men, do a lot for their club and train kids etc, no media etc. Its great, both well liked and good role models.
Aye he's a true gent all right. not like he has any previous.
Oh wait forgot about this one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rh6YQBgD-0A&feature=youtu.be
Quote from: Nihilist on September 01, 2015, 05:33:19 PM
Quote from: The Aristocrat on September 01, 2015, 01:24:31 PM
Philly Mc never sent off in champo.
Both gents, great club men, do a lot for their club and train kids etc, no media etc. Its great, both well liked and good role models.
Aye he's a true gent all right. not like he has any previous.
Oh wait forgot about this one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rh6YQBgD-0A&feature=youtu.be
That's how he says hello, Hello Paul. Kerrigan then said hello back with a punch that didn't connect. They like each other.
True gent. You don't know him or have ever met him, that's a football pitch, it doesn't dictate what type of person you are. I could find dozens of clips online too in all sports showing all sorts.
Hearing that O Connor incident may be reviewed again due to its severity, O Connor and Keegan have previous on the field of play, amazed how they get away with it. Their some lads for getting away with nasty stuff.
Here's me every time The Aristocrat posts
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Quote from: The Aristocrat on September 01, 2015, 05:52:19 PM
Quote from: Nihilist on September 01, 2015, 05:33:19 PM
Quote from: The Aristocrat on September 01, 2015, 01:24:31 PM
Philly Mc never sent off in champo.
Both gents, great club men, do a lot for their club and train kids etc, no media etc. Its great, both well liked and good role models.
Aye he's a true gent all right. not like he has any previous.
Oh wait forgot about this one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rh6YQBgD-0A&feature=youtu.be
That's how he says hello, Hello Paul. Kerrigan then said hello back with a punch that didn't connect. They like each other.
True gent. You don't know him or have ever met him, that's a football pitch, it doesn't dictate what type of person you are. I could find dozens of clips online too in all sports showing all sorts.
Hearing that O Connor incident may be reviewed again due to its severity, O Connor and Keegan have previous on the field of play, amazed how they get away with it. Their some lads for getting away with nasty stuff.
It's what he does on the pitch that reflects on him.
Biting, Diving, Headbutting. If that's the model you want your kids to aspire to well frankly you shouldn't be let near kids.
Quote from: The Aristocrat on September 01, 2015, 05:52:19 PM
Quote from: Nihilist on September 01, 2015, 05:33:19 PM
Quote from: The Aristocrat on September 01, 2015, 01:24:31 PM
Philly Mc never sent off in champo.
Both gents, great club men, do a lot for their club and train kids etc, no media etc. Its great, both well liked and good role models.
Aye he's a true gent all right. not like he has any previous.
Oh wait forgot about this one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rh6YQBgD-0A&feature=youtu.be
That's how he says hello, Hello Paul. Kerrigan then said hello back with a punch that didn't connect. They like each other.
True gent. You don't know him or have ever met him, that's a football pitch, it doesn't dictate what type of person you are. I could find dozens of clips online too in all sports showing all sorts.
Hearing that O Connor incident may be reviewed again due to its severity, O Connor and Keegan have previous on the field of play, amazed how they get away with it. Their some lads for getting away with nasty stuff.
Everyone gets away with their previous unless they play for a Northern side.
Who believe it, these Dublin men have bigger blinkers on that the wronged Tyrone men. How supporters continually defend they own players when they do wrong, i cant understand.
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on September 01, 2015, 06:19:09 PM
Who believe it, these Dublin men have bigger blinkers on that the wronged Tyrone men. How supporters continually defend they own players when they do wrong, i cant understand.
Sure we've plenty of your material to work off when it comes to defending our own . What surprises me is why then nordies are so concerned . Your season ended last week.
I've always maintained the worst hatred of Dublin exists in Tyrone and Monaghan. Maybe it's due to the China crisis depressing oil prices
Quote from: Nihilist on September 01, 2015, 06:07:29 PM
Quote from: The Aristocrat on September 01, 2015, 05:52:19 PM
Quote from: Nihilist on September 01, 2015, 05:33:19 PM
Quote from: The Aristocrat on September 01, 2015, 01:24:31 PM
Philly Mc never sent off in champo.
Both gents, great club men, do a lot for their club and train kids etc, no media etc. Its great, both well liked and good role models.
Aye he's a true gent all right. not like he has any previous.
Oh wait forgot about this one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rh6YQBgD-0A&feature=youtu.be
That's how he says hello, Hello Paul. Kerrigan then said hello back with a punch that didn't connect. They like each other.
True gent. You don't know him or have ever met him, that's a football pitch, it doesn't dictate what type of person you are. I could find dozens of clips online too in all sports showing all sorts.
Hearing that O Connor incident may be reviewed again due to its severity, O Connor and Keegan have previous on the field of play, amazed how they get away with it. Their some lads for getting away with nasty stuff.
It's what he does on the pitch that reflects on him.
Biting, Diving, Headbutting. If that's the model you want your kids to aspire to well frankly you shouldn't be let near kids.
Lest us not forget tj hooker Boyles swan lake dive to get the penalty ::)
good job am either then
Looking forward to the match! I have stopped looking in on this thread! Has been as bitter as the game on Sunday. Too many people looking for to people to blame for their own teams inadequacies.
Anyway back to looking at the game.
I wonder will Drake start again?
Durcan for injured Vaughan looks nailed?
Freeman/Andy to start?
Any word on Cunniffe?
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on September 01, 2015, 06:47:15 PM
good job am either then
It's not the point, most Dublin fans hold their hands regarding some of their players antics, it's the media campaign and majority of mayos bucks tone on the OCarroll incident that grinds my gears....... "Ah sure he was pulling out of him and it was ok to lash out"
Quote from: squire_in_navy_slacks on September 01, 2015, 06:51:44 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on September 01, 2015, 06:47:15 PM
good job am either then
It's not the point, most Dublin fans hold their hands regarding some of their players antics, it's the media campaign and majority of mayos bucks tone on the OCarroll incident that grinds my gears....... "Ah sure he was pulling out of him and it was ok to lash out"
I assume you don't count yourself, aristoprat or the indian in that bracket.
Quote from: From the Bunker on September 01, 2015, 06:49:36 PM
Looking forward to the match! I have stopped looking in on this thread! Has been as bitter as the game on Sunday. Too many people looking for to people to blame for their own teams inadequacies.
Anyway back to looking at the game.
I wonder will Drake start again?
Durcan for injured Vaughan looks nailed?
Freeman/Andy to start?
Any word on Cunniffe?
I think Durcan deserves a start after the last day and maybe Cunniffe will come in instead of Drake?
I questioned Freeman's impact off the bench before the last day but that's two games in a row he has come on and clipped a point with his first shot so I would like to keep him and Andy as impact sub's as we will probably need them again along with big Barry.
I wonder will Clarkie start if the is fit? I think we will setup much like last Sunday to start with but I hope we transition to attack better to support Aidan and push up on Cluxtons kickouts a little more to keep the Dubs guessing like we did in the second half. I don't think we could do it for a whole 60 or 70 mins though as it would take too much energy out of the team!!! We won't survive another missfire from our forwards like we had in the third quarter the last day though!!!
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Quote from: squire_in_navy_slacks on September 01, 2015, 06:51:44 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on September 01, 2015, 06:47:15 PM
good job am either then
It's not the point, most Dublin fans hold their hands regarding some of their players antics, it's the media campaign and majority of mayos bucks tone on the OCarroll incident that grinds my gears....... "Ah sure he was pulling out of him and it was ok to lash out"
I assume you don't count yourself, aristoprat or the indian in that bracket.
Attack the post, not the poster, no need for name calling. I am yes defending my own but someone has to or it would be a free for all in no Dublin posters post.
Il stop posting on this thread now and would like to wish the best of luck to the 16 men of Mayo who will start on Saturday.
Mayo by 9 points and will win the free count 27 to 6.
If Connolly had one what COC had done it would have got more attention but I like all other neutrals doesn't think it would warrants a ban as in the context of what was happening to him it looks like he was trying to get free of his marker albeit been slightly reckless at the same time. COC is lucky he's not perceived as a dirty player even though he saw red in last years replay and was lucky not to be sent off in the final in 2012.
As far as I can see what COC did was an isolated incident as opposed to the several incidents of dirty and cynical play from the Dubs.
Quote from: The Aristocrat on September 01, 2015, 07:49:39 PM
Quote from: Nihilist on September 01, 2015, 07:02:41 PM
Quote from: squire_in_navy_slacks on September 01, 2015, 06:51:44 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on September 01, 2015, 06:47:15 PM
good job am either then
It's not the point, most Dublin fans hold their hands regarding some of their players antics, it's the media campaign and majority of mayos bucks tone on the OCarroll incident that grinds my gears....... "Ah sure he was pulling out of him and it was ok to lash out"
I assume you don't count yourself, aristoprat or the indian in that bracket.
Attack the post, not the poster, no need for name calling. I am yes defending my own but someone has to or it would be a free for all in no Dublin posters post.
Il stop posting on this thread now and would like to wish the best of luck to the 16 men of Mayo who will start on Saturday.
Mayo by 9 points and will win the free count 27 to 6.
Is this definitely your last post so aristo?? ;D ;D
For feck sake all the tickets for replay gone, bought up by boxing, wrestling, and ufc fans.
Quote from: Maroon Manc on September 01, 2015, 08:04:36 PM
If Connolly had one what COC had done it would have got more attention but I like all other neutrals doesn't think it would warrants a ban as in the context of what was happening to him it looks like he was trying to get free of his marker albeit been slightly reckless at the same time. COC is lucky he's not perceived as a dirty player even though he saw red in last years replay and was lucky not to be sent off in the final in 2012.
As far as I can see what COC did was an isolated incident as opposed to the several incidents of dirty and cynical play from the Dubs.
You missed the bit where he hit Connolly on the ground during the Keegan incident. Don't why he doesn't just try and ref the game as he never stops at the referee.
Quote from: INDIANA on September 01, 2015, 08:51:04 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on September 01, 2015, 08:04:36 PM
If Connolly had one what COC had done it would have got more attention but I like all other neutrals doesn't think it would warrants a ban as in the context of what was happening to him it looks like he was trying to get free of his marker albeit been slightly reckless at the same time. COC is lucky he's not perceived as a dirty player even though he saw red in last years replay and was lucky not to be sent off in the final in 2012.
As far as I can see what COC did was an isolated incident as opposed to the several incidents of dirty and cynical play from the Dubs.
You missed the bit where he hit Connolly on the ground during the Keegan incident. Don't why he doesn't just try and ref the game as he never stops at the referee.
I've watched it several times and it doesn't look like COC hit Connolly.
Quote from: Maroon Manc on September 01, 2015, 08:57:33 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on September 01, 2015, 08:51:04 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on September 01, 2015, 08:04:36 PM
If Connolly had one what COC had done it would have got more attention but I like all other neutrals doesn't think it would warrants a ban as in the context of what was happening to him it looks like he was trying to get free of his marker albeit been slightly reckless at the same time. COC is lucky he's not perceived as a dirty player even though he saw red in last years replay and was lucky not to be sent off in the final in 2012.
As far as I can see what COC did was an isolated incident as opposed to the several incidents of dirty and cynical play from the Dubs.
You missed the bit where he hit Connolly on the ground during the Keegan incident. Don't why he doesn't just try and ref the game as he never stops at the referee.
I've watched it several times and it doesn't look like COC hit Connolly.
Coc digged Connolly in the ribs, get yourself to spec savers lad
A picture paints a thousand words.
http://www.irishtimes.com/polopoly_fs/1.2335425.1441050267!/image/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/box_620_330/image.jpg (http://www.irishtimes.com/polopoly_fs/1.2335425.1441050267!/image/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/box_620_330/image.jpg)
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on September 01, 2015, 09:07:41 PM
A picture paints a thousand words.
http://www.irishtimes.com/polopoly_fs/1.2335425.1441050267!/image/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/box_620_330/image.jpg (http://www.irishtimes.com/polopoly_fs/1.2335425.1441050267!/image/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/box_620_330/image.jpg)
(https://media4.giphy.com/media/dM5h1F0R9rocw/200.gif)
Thought dublin looked very flat the last day. MDMA looks to have lost that kick of pace.
Paul Flynn and Connolly look tired . The next day may tell if this was a one off or something more permanent.
Them lads have an awful lot of work done since 2010.
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on September 01, 2015, 09:07:41 PM
A picture paints a thousand words.
http://www.irishtimes.com/polopoly_fs/1.2335425.1441050267!/image/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/box_620_330/image.jpg (http://www.irishtimes.com/polopoly_fs/1.2335425.1441050267!/image/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/box_620_330/image.jpg)
Two players tugging each others jerseys.
Quote from: Farrandeelin on September 01, 2015, 09:37:11 PM
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on September 01, 2015, 09:07:41 PM
A picture paints a thousand words.
http://www.irishtimes.com/polopoly_fs/1.2335425.1441050267!/image/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/box_620_330/image.jpg (http://www.irishtimes.com/polopoly_fs/1.2335425.1441050267!/image/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/box_620_330/image.jpg)
Two players tugging each others jerseys.
Nail on the head -
Two players tugging each others jerseys.
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on September 01, 2015, 09:41:52 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on September 01, 2015, 09:37:11 PM
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on September 01, 2015, 09:07:41 PM
A picture paints a thousand words.
http://www.irishtimes.com/polopoly_fs/1.2335425.1441050267!/image/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/box_620_330/image.jpg (http://www.irishtimes.com/polopoly_fs/1.2335425.1441050267!/image/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/box_620_330/image.jpg)
Two players tugging each others jerseys.
Nail on the head - Two players tugging each others jerseys.
Yes, O'Shea is grabbing his jersey and vice versa.
Nobody from Mayo is suggesting our players don't foul or are free from sin. But you lads are so blinkered it's beyond belief.
QuoteYou missed the bit where he hit Connolly on the ground during the Keegan incident. Don't why he doesn't just try and ref the game as he never stops at the referee.
I only saw one very quick clip of the COC incident afterwards so would need to see it again to judge properly on that one. He obviously caught him as O Carroll got a bad gash as a result but whether he was trying to just free himself & accidentally caught him or not I'd reserve judgement on.
I agree with you though - I have noticed with O Connor over the last few seasons that he is constantly on to the referee trying to get opponents carded. It doesn't reflect well on him & it looks very bad.
An example was the constant roaring of "he has to go, he has to go" on Sunday when his brother had his jersey pulled by Cian O Sullivan (cynical yes - but not a black card offence).
He's obviously a fine footballer but I'd like to see less of that craic from him.
Quote from: squire_in_navy_slacks on September 01, 2015, 06:51:44 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on September 01, 2015, 06:47:15 PM
good job am either then
It's not the point, most Tyrone Dublin fans hold their hands regarding some of their players antics, it's the media campaign and majority of Derry / Armagh / WUM's mayos bucks tone on the Cabvanagh / McCann / etc OCarroll incident that grinds my gears....... "Ah sure he was pulling out of him and it was ok to lash out"
Ignore the WUM's and look to the positives from the game
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Quote from: The Aristocrat on September 01, 2015, 07:49:39 PM
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Quote from: squire_in_navy_slacks on September 01, 2015, 06:51:44 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on September 01, 2015, 06:47:15 PM
good job am either then
It's not the point, most Dublin fans hold their hands regarding some of their players antics, it's the media campaign and majority of mayos bucks tone on the OCarroll incident that grinds my gears....... "Ah sure he was pulling out of him and it was ok to lash out"
I assume you don't count yourself, aristoprat or the indian in that bracket.
Attack the post, not the poster, no need for name calling. I am yes defending my own but someone has to or it would be a free for all in no Dublin posters post.
Il stop posting on this thread now and would like to wish the best of luck to the 16 men of Mayo who will start on Saturday.
Mayo by 9 points and will win the free count 27 to 6.
Is this definitely your last post so aristo?? ;D ;D
Know what?
I think this buck is a wum; he's really Tony Fearon. ;D
How many times has the bould Tony said he wasn't going to post any more on just about every thread he mucks up, only to forget his good intentions and starts spouting crap again?
Another thing, there's a load of seriously blinkered Dubbies on this thread. You'd think , if you paid attention to any of them, that Joe Mac was wearing a Mayo jersey when he was dishing out frees. The reason we're told is that Joe was totally clueless and not that the Dublin player practicing the dark arts they're so well used to.
But that doesn't explain why many of them started to remonstrate with Joe when he blew them up (yet again)
How many times did the ref move the ball forward for dissent, making COC's task of scoring so much easier.
They were plainly rattled from the off and no amount of waffle will disguise the fact they resorted to fouling out of pure panic.
Dammit, Mayo aren't exactly a choir of schoolboys but they didn't give away soft frees within scoring distance.
It looks like Connolly finished off what Keegan started.
http://cdn2.independent.ie/incoming/article31495966.ece/601be/ALTERNATES/h342/60%20death%20of%20respect%201048004.jpg
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on September 02, 2015, 11:49:20 AM
It looks like Connolly finished off what Keegan started.
http://cdn2.independent.ie/incoming/article31495966.ece/601be/ALTERNATES/h342/60%20death%20of%20respect%201048004.jpg
Headlock clearly seen, cutting off the air supply, sure if u can lash out like OConnor did on OCarroll for hands around the waist, you can lash out for a choke hold
(http://cdn2.independent.ie/incoming/article31495966.ece/601be/ALTERNATES/h342/60%20death%20of%20respect%201048004.jpg)
Is that like one of them Magic Eye images?
Quote from: squire_in_navy_slacks on September 02, 2015, 12:15:04 PM
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on September 02, 2015, 11:49:20 AM
It looks like Connolly finished off what Keegan started.
http://cdn2.independent.ie/incoming/article31495966.ece/601be/ALTERNATES/h342/60%20death%20of%20respect%201048004.jpg
Headlock clearly seen, cutting off the air supply, sure if u can lash out like OConnor did on OCarroll for hands around the waist, you can lash out for a choke hold
(http://cdn2.independent.ie/incoming/article31495966.ece/601be/ALTERNATES/h342/60%20death%20of%20respect%201048004.jpg)
Connolly pulling Keegan down on top of him is equally "clearly seen" by that single frame image!
Jesus, the thuggery from Keegan, a violent grapple and sly dig thrown in. Should be sited with O Connor. Clear as day. The must let Connolly off. The only honourable thing to do now by the CRC, CHC, CCCC, CCCCC.
Quote from: The Aristocrat on September 02, 2015, 12:32:50 PM
Jesus, the thuggery from Keegan, a violent grapple and sly dig thrown in. Should be sited with O Connor. Clear as day. The must let Connolly off. The only honourable thing to do now by the CRC, CHC, CCCC, CCCCC.
Obviously still not your last post so.
Jees will ya get over it. It's beyond pathetic at this stage.
Quote from: Nihilist on September 02, 2015, 12:46:52 PM
Quote from: The Aristocrat on September 02, 2015, 12:32:50 PM
Jesus, the thuggery from Keegan, a violent grapple and sly dig thrown in. Should be sited with O Connor. Clear as day. The must let Connolly off. The only honourable thing to do now by the CRC, CHC, CCCC, CCCCC.
Obviously still not your last post so.
I now agree with Old School, thanks for you contributions to the site and enjoy the holidays and match, up the Dubs.
Thanks, I will now, see what happens at the CHC tomorrow.
Quote from: The Hill is Blue on September 02, 2015, 11:49:20 AM
It looks like Connolly finished off what Keegan started.
http://cdn2.independent.ie/incoming/article31495966.ece/601be/ALTERNATES/h342/60%20death%20of%20respect%201048004.jpg
I will preface my comments with the point that all the Dublin supporters I met after the games on Sunday like the majority on this website are sound guys.
I have a major issue with Coopers boot tackle on DOC which was no way accidental and could easily have broken his leg/tore his ACL. In addition, how can anybody defend McMahon for boxing Boyle twice after the penalty. Wtf, The umpires were a full 8 yards from it. Mayo no saints, but after watching the game again last night, those two incidents stood out.
At this point I wish the replay was tonight, so all this nonsense is over.
So I'm reading after all the stories to the contrary - Rory O'Carroll didn't get any stitches on Sunday at all
(http://i.imgur.com/jIrv8Up.png)
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on September 02, 2015, 01:47:46 PM
So I'm reading after all the stories to the contrary - Rory O'Carroll didn't get any stitches on Sunday at all
(http://i.imgur.com/jIrv8Up.png)
I heard that as well, but Indiana, Squire and Aristocrat are so adamant and are obviously so close to the inner workings of the CCCC/CHC etc that I couldn't doubt them.
(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y115/Kowulz/Can-Of-Worms.jpg)
(http://dailycaller.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/man-in-shock-e1354084621134.jpg)
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on September 02, 2015, 01:47:46 PM
So I'm reading after all the stories to the contrary - Rory O'Carroll didn't get any stitches on Sunday at all
(http://i.imgur.com/jIrv8Up.png)
Indeed, he got the same amount of stitches as headbutts received by AOS. :D
What in god's name are we all going to do when the championship is over .
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Quote from: Canalman on September 02, 2015, 04:14:50 PM
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on September 02, 2015, 01:47:46 PM
So I'm reading after all the stories to the contrary - Rory O'Carroll didn't get any stitches on Sunday at all
(http://i.imgur.com/jIrv8Up.png)
Indeed, he got the same amount of stitches as headbutts received by AOS. :D
What in god's name are we all going to do when the championship is over .
You could practice smiling like Indiana and Aristocrat:
(https://images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia.giphy.com%2Fmedia%2F7RZUr7OSOAhTG%2Fgiphy.gif&f=1)
It was 10 squeezes off clue instead of stitches, just some confusion.
It turns out Superman didn't need counselling Monday morning too.
Quote from: The Aristocrat on September 02, 2015, 05:00:17 PM
It was 10 squeezes off clue instead of stitches, just some confusion.
It turns out Superman didn't need counselling Monday morning too.
I am fairly sure you don't have even one squeeze of a clue. :D
interesting pic buckos
https://mobile.twitter.com/TheParishDave/status/639102949776564225
It wasn't 10 stitches alright, it was 10 sutures.
Quote from: Tubberman on September 02, 2015, 02:02:40 PM
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on September 02, 2015, 01:47:46 PM
So I'm reading after all the stories to the contrary - Rory O'Carroll didn't get any stitches on Sunday at all
I heard that as well, but Indiana, Squire and Aristocrat are so adamant and are obviously so close to the inner workings of the CCCC/CHC etc that I couldn't doubt them.
Sure don't yis know he was gouged and it was O'Shea who did it, because, because, because someone said he did!
Quote from: squire_in_navy_slacks on September 02, 2015, 05:04:30 PM
interesting pic buckos
https://mobile.twitter.com/TheParishDave/status/639102949776564225
You lads have me in stitches! ;D
Quote from: muppet on September 02, 2015, 05:09:08 PM
Quote from: squire_in_navy_slacks on September 02, 2015, 05:04:30 PM
interesting pic buckos
https://mobile.twitter.com/TheParishDave/status/639102949776564225
You lads have me in stitches! ;D
10 stitches?
Quote from: squire_in_navy_slacks on September 02, 2015, 05:04:30 PM
interesting pic buckos
https://mobile.twitter.com/TheParishDave/status/639102949776564225
(https://media1.giphy.com/media/p7ImI9DxQEsPm/200.gif)
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Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on September 02, 2015, 05:40:41 PM
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;D ;D ;D
Hopefully your 6 year old is crying again on Saturday "muppet"
aren't you delightful
Lads what is the rule if the defender jumps off the ground when facing a freetaker?
Quote from: AZOffaly on September 02, 2015, 06:44:37 PM
Lads what is the rule if the defender jumps off the ground when facing a freetaker?
Cluxton's free?
I thought it was a bit stupid of our guy alright.
Yeah exactly. Just watched it back there on sky highlights. I didnt notice that on the day.
Free moved up by 13m - all the way up to the 13m line if required.
You can hold your hands up - but not move
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on September 02, 2015, 06:57:46 PM
Free moved up by 13m - all the way up to the 13m line if required.
You can hold your hands up - but not move
When did that rule come in? After 2011?
(http://mayogaablog.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/Cluxton-2011.jpg)
it's been like that for a good while - and definitely before 2011.
If Cluxton had missed that - by all rights it could have been retaken and moved forward.
edit: here's the rule book from 2003 and it's in there then - Rule 4.19 Page 62
http://www.dohenygaa.com/downloads/rules.pdf
Take a look at Cluxtons last free. Id say 2 or 3 Mayo lads leapt up in the air.
I believe the rule is that you can't jump before the ball is kicked to distract the kicker but you can jump once the ball has been kicked in an attempt to block the ball. Open to correction on that though
Quote from: squire_in_navy_slacks on September 02, 2015, 05:04:30 PM
interesting pic buckos
https://mobile.twitter.com/TheParishDave/status/639102949776564225
I beg to differ
Quote from: The Aristocrat on September 02, 2015, 05:00:17 PM
It was 10 squeezes off clue instead of stitches, just some confusion.
It turns out Superman didn't need counselling Monday morning too.
Thought I told you that already.....
Quote from: squire_in_navy_slacks on September 02, 2015, 05:04:30 PM
interesting pic buckos
https://mobile.twitter.com/TheParishDave/status/639102949776564225
Yeah, Connolly has Keegan on the ground and O'Connor's pulling him off.
Quote from: Farrandeelin on September 02, 2015, 10:33:14 PM
Quote from: squire_in_navy_slacks on September 02, 2015, 05:04:30 PM
interesting pic buckos
https://mobile.twitter.com/TheParishDave/status/639102949776564225
Yeah, Connolly has Keegan on the ground and O'Connor's pulling him off.
I heard Cillian been appointed the referee on Saturday evening. He did such a good job last weekend refereeing he's been moved up the ranks with haste.
Quote from: INDIANA on September 02, 2015, 10:36:03 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on September 02, 2015, 10:33:14 PM
Quote from: squire_in_navy_slacks on September 02, 2015, 05:04:30 PM
interesting pic buckos
https://mobile.twitter.com/TheParishDave/status/639102949776564225
Yeah, Connolly has Keegan on the ground and O'Connor's pulling him off.
I heard Cillian been appointed the referee on Saturday evening. He did such a good job last weekend refereeing he's been moved up the ranks with haste.
What's that to do with the pic?
Ban upheld. Connolly will not play Saturday.
Quote from: INDIANA on September 02, 2015, 10:36:03 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on September 02, 2015, 10:33:14 PM
Quote from: squire_in_navy_slacks on September 02, 2015, 05:04:30 PM
interesting pic buckos
https://mobile.twitter.com/TheParishDave/status/639102949776564225
Yeah, Connolly has Keegan on the ground and O'Connor's pulling him off.
I heard Cillian been appointed the referee on Saturday evening. He did such a good job last weekend refereeing he's been moved up the ranks with haste.
Far more instances of Connolly in the refs face after he made a decision than COC last Sunday.
Quote from: ballinaman on September 02, 2015, 10:38:28 PM
Ban upheld. Connolly will not play Saturday.
Did you use your Deloran and skip forward 24 hours?
Quote from: Bensars on September 02, 2015, 10:41:16 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on September 02, 2015, 10:38:28 PM
Ban upheld. Connolly will not play Saturday.
Did you use your Deloran and skip forward 24 hours?
CHC obviously did.
Quote from: Maroon Manc on September 02, 2015, 10:38:33 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on September 02, 2015, 10:36:03 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on September 02, 2015, 10:33:14 PM
Quote from: squire_in_navy_slacks on September 02, 2015, 05:04:30 PM
interesting pic buckos
https://mobile.twitter.com/TheParishDave/status/639102949776564225
Yeah, Connolly has Keegan on the ground and O'Connor's pulling him off.
I heard Cillian been appointed the referee on Saturday evening. He did such a good job last weekend refereeing he's been moved up the ranks with haste.
Far more instances of Connolly in the refs face after he made a decision than COC last Sunday.
Since I've watched it 3 times I'd imagine I;d have a better idea then yourself. Just a hunch mind you.
He has some career ahead Cillian when he packs it in.
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on September 02, 2015, 07:07:30 PM
it's been like that for a good while - and definitely before 2011.
If Cluxton had missed that - by all rights it could have been retaken and moved forward.
edit: here's the rule book from 2003 and it's in there then - Rule 4.19 Page 62
http://www.dohenygaa.com/downloads/rules.pdf
Cluxton could have retaken that free all day long & he wouldn't have nailed it.
Wasn't his day & his head was gone.
Quote from: INDIANA on September 02, 2015, 10:43:13 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on September 02, 2015, 10:38:33 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on September 02, 2015, 10:36:03 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on September 02, 2015, 10:33:14 PM
Quote from: squire_in_navy_slacks on September 02, 2015, 05:04:30 PM
interesting pic buckos
https://mobile.twitter.com/TheParishDave/status/639102949776564225
Yeah, Connolly has Keegan on the ground and O'Connor's pulling him off.
I heard Cillian been appointed the referee on Saturday evening. He did such a good job last weekend refereeing he's been moved up the ranks with haste.
Far more instances of Connolly in the refs face after he made a decision than COC last Sunday.
Since I've watched it 3 times I'd imagine I;d have a better idea then yourself. Just a hunch mind you.
He has some career ahead Cillian when he packs it in.
How many times did either player approach the ref after he blew for a decision since you've watched it 3 times?
Quote from: Maroon Manc on September 02, 2015, 10:45:50 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on September 02, 2015, 10:43:13 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on September 02, 2015, 10:38:33 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on September 02, 2015, 10:36:03 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on September 02, 2015, 10:33:14 PM
Quote from: squire_in_navy_slacks on September 02, 2015, 05:04:30 PM
interesting pic buckos
https://mobile.twitter.com/TheParishDave/status/639102949776564225
Yeah, Connolly has Keegan on the ground and O'Connor's pulling him off.
I heard Cillian been appointed the referee on Saturday evening. He did such a good job last weekend refereeing he's been moved up the ranks with haste.
Far more instances of Connolly in the refs face after he made a decision than COC last Sunday.
Since I've watched it 3 times I'd imagine I;d have a better idea then yourself. Just a hunch mind you.
He has some career ahead Cillian when he packs it in.
How many times did either player approach the ref after he blew for a decision since you've watched it 3 times?
7-3 in Cillian's favour
Heffo, Canalman, Hound..
What you think of Tomas Brady? He caused Mayo massive problems in Castlebar. Would he be your pick to replace Connolly?
Quote from: ballinaman on September 02, 2015, 10:48:28 PM
Heffo, Canalman, Hound..
What you think of Tomas Brady? He caused Mayo massive problems in Castlebar. Would he be your pick to replace Connolly?
I stood on the Hill with him once. My claim to fame with Dublin football.
He's very good all right, could do damage if starting OR brought on. I reckon the Dublin hurlers missed him, but that's neither here nor there at this stage.
Quote from: Farrandeelin on September 02, 2015, 10:51:52 PM
Quote from: ballinaman on September 02, 2015, 10:48:28 PM
Heffo, Canalman, Hound..
What you think of Tomas Brady? He caused Mayo massive problems in Castlebar. Would he be your pick to replace Connolly?
I stood on the Hill with him once. My claim to fame with Dublin football.
He's very good all right, could do damage if starting OR brought on. I reckon the Dublin hurlers missed him, but that's neither here nor there at this stage.
It's like replacing Picasso with Roddy Collins
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https://mobile.twitter.com/TheParishDave/status/639102949776564225
Yeah, Connolly has Keegan on the ground and O'Connor's pulling him off.
I heard Cillian been appointed the referee on Saturday evening. He did such a good job last weekend refereeing he's been moved up the ranks with haste.
Far more instances of Connolly in the refs face after he made a decision than COC last Sunday.
Since I've watched it 3 times I'd imagine I;d have a better idea then yourself. Just a hunch mind you.
He has some career ahead Cillian when he packs it in.
How many times did either player approach the ref after he blew for a decision since you've watched it 3 times?
7-3 in Cillian's favour
It was 5-5
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interesting pic buckos
https://mobile.twitter.com/TheParishDave/status/639102949776564225
Yeah, Connolly has Keegan on the ground and O'Connor's pulling him off.
I heard Cillian been appointed the referee on Saturday evening. He did such a good job last weekend refereeing he's been moved up the ranks with haste.
Far more instances of Connolly in the refs face after he made a decision than COC last Sunday.
Since I've watched it 3 times I'd imagine I;d have a better idea then yourself. Just a hunch mind you.
He has some career ahead Cillian when he packs it in.
How many times did either player approach the ref after he blew for a decision since you've watched it 3 times?
7-3 in Cillian's favour
A pinch of salt from here on big fella
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interesting pic buckos
https://mobile.twitter.com/TheParishDave/status/639102949776564225
Yeah, Connolly has Keegan on the ground and O'Connor's pulling him off.
I heard Cillian been appointed the referee on Saturday evening. He did such a good job last weekend refereeing he's been moved up the ranks with haste.
Far more instances of Connolly in the refs face after he made a decision than COC last Sunday.
Since I've watched it 3 times I'd imagine I;d have a better idea then yourself. Just a hunch mind you.
He has some career ahead Cillian when he packs it in.
How many times did either player approach the ref after he blew for a decision since you've watched it 3 times?
7-3 in Cillian's favour
A pinch of salt from here on big fella
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQhWXh5-EZw
would have been a disgrace (as it was for Keane) if Connolly got off
Delighted he's gone, who'll keegan target mark now?
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would have been a disgrace (as it was for Keane) if Connolly got off
Delighted he's gone, who'll keegan target mark now?
Kilkenny or Flynn? Dermo has avenues of appeal left yet, so don't rule him out yet!
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would have been a disgrace (as it was for Keane) if Connolly got off
Delighted he's gone, who'll keegan target mark now?
Kilkenny or Flynn? Dermo has avenues of appeal left yet, so don't rule him out yet!
Appealed and gone, Brady in to Marshall Keegan, follow him into the showers if needs be :-*
With Connolly gone i put Costello into the fullforward line
Fair / thought question ? Would you say Keegan is lying in bed now laughing with a twitcher or does he feel slightly bad
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With Connolly gone i put Costello into the fullforward line
wont be on the bench
Wheres he at, Paul Mannion taking a year out is a miss too, good scoring power among the 2 of them
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Wheres he at, Paul Mannion taking a year out is a miss too, good scoring power among the 2 of them
face don't fit. Mannion in USA but back now
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Fair / thought question ? Would you say Keegan is lying in bed now laughing with a twitcher or does he feel slightly bad
Neither I would suspect.
Would Johnny Cooper feel bad or laugh if Kevin McLoughlin snapped and got sent off. He possibly had more reason to.
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interesting pic buckos
https://mobile.twitter.com/TheParishDave/status/639102949776564225
Jaysus. 50 Shades of Red.
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Heffo, Canalman, Hound..
What you think of Tomas Brady? He caused Mayo massive problems in Castlebar. Would he be your pick to replace Connolly?
Not a massive fan to be honest. A workhorse more than a footballer. Didn't have a good cameo on Sunday, but Gavin likes him and would seem to be in pole position
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would have been a disgrace (as it was for Keane) if Connolly got off
Delighted he's gone, who'll keegan target mark now?
I would turn the tables and put Tomas Brady on Keegan and man mark him .... save Dublin a lot of bother !!!
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would have been a disgrace (as it was for Keane) if Connolly got off
Delighted he's gone, who'll keegan target mark now?
I would turn the tables and put Tomas Brady on Keegan and man mark him .... save Dublin a lot of bother !!!
Turn the table would you. Dublin have been terrified of Keegan in the last 2 meetings hence the reason they sacrificed their best player to man mark him. Despite this Keegan has still outscored Connolly from play over the two games.
All this bullshit about poor auld Connolly getting targeted and Keegan blaguarding him. It's total bullshit and a lack of respect to the best half back in the country. Connolly is used to waltzing around Croke Park in the Leinster championship but when its put up to him and somebody actually marks him he just cant hack it. Lee Keegan did not lay a dirty blow all day last Sunday,and doesn't get involved in sledging. Connolly on the other hand went around like a complete thug getting involved in numerous incidents as well as been the cause of 2 Mayo frees been moved forward. But the apologists for Connolly are trying to dirty the name of one of the finest footballers in the country to try and justify the actions of a thug
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would have been a disgrace (as it was for Keane) if Connolly got off
Delighted he's gone, who'll keegan target mark now?
I would turn the tables and put Tomas Brady on Keegan and man mark him .... save Dublin a lot of bother !!!
The amount of times you hear this chat amazes me - The defender chooses who he marks, not the other way around!!!
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would have been a disgrace (as it was for Keane) if Connolly got off
Delighted he's gone, who'll keegan target mark now?
I would turn the tables and put Tomas Brady on Keegan and man mark him .... save Dublin a lot of bother !!!
Turn the table would you. Dublin have been terrified of Keegan in the last 2 meetings hence the reason they sacrificed their best player to man mark him. Despite this Keegan has still outscored Connolly from play over the two games.
All this bullshit about poor auld Connolly getting targeted and Keegan blaguarding him. It's total bullshit and a lack of respect to the best half back in the country. Connolly is used to waltzing around Croke Park in the Leinster championship but when its put up to him and somebody actually marks him he just cant hack it. Lee Keegan did not lay a dirty blow all day last Sunday,and doesn't get involved in sledging. Connolly on the other hand went around like a complete thug getting involved in numerous incidents as well as been the cause of 2 Mayo frees been moved forward. But the apologists for Connolly are trying to dirty the name of one of the finest footballers in the country to try and justify the actions of a thug
Keegan is the best wing back in Ireland in his own head. I'd prefer in no particular order
Peter Harte
Colm Boyle
James Mc Carthy
Keegan is great going forward but he's actually a very poor defender hence why he has to wrestle players to the ground against Galway and Dublin this year. Boyle is a much better defender. Keegan is more of a show pony. He has better hair then Boyle though
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would have been a disgrace (as it was for Keane) if Connolly got off
Delighted he's gone, who'll keegan target mark now?
I would turn the tables and put Tomas Brady on Keegan and man mark him .... save Dublin a lot of bother !!!
Turn the table would you. Dublin have been terrified of Keegan in the last 2 meetings hence the reason they sacrificed their best player to man mark him. Despite this Keegan has still outscored Connolly from play over the two games.
All this bullshit about poor auld Connolly getting targeted and Keegan blaguarding him. It's total bullshit and a lack of respect to the best half back in the country. Connolly is used to waltzing around Croke Park in the Leinster championship but when its put up to him and somebody actually marks him he just cant hack it. Lee Keegan did not lay a dirty blow all day last Sunday,and doesn't get involved in sledging. Connolly on the other hand went around like a complete thug getting involved in numerous incidents as well as been the cause of 2 Mayo frees been moved forward. But the apologists for Connolly are trying to dirty the name of one of the finest footballers in the country to try and justify the actions of a thug
Keegan is the best wing back in Ireland in his own head. I'd prefer in no particular order
Peter Harte
Colm Boyle
James Mc Carthy
Keegan is great going forward but he's actually a very poor defender hence why he has to wrestle players to the ground against Galway and Dublin this year. Boyle is a much better defender. Keegan is more of a show pony. He has better hair then Boyle though
Ok Indiana I have to say this. You are f**king mental
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would have been a disgrace (as it was for Keane) if Connolly got off
Delighted he's gone, who'll keegan target mark now?
I would turn the tables and put Tomas Brady on Keegan and man mark him .... save Dublin a lot of bother !!!
Turn the table would you. Dublin have been terrified of Keegan in the last 2 meetings hence the reason they sacrificed their best player to man mark him. Despite this Keegan has still outscored Connolly from play over the two games.
All this bullshit about poor auld Connolly getting targeted and Keegan blaguarding him. It's total bullshit and a lack of respect to the best half back in the country. Connolly is used to waltzing around Croke Park in the Leinster championship but when its put up to him and somebody actually marks him he just cant hack it. Lee Keegan did not lay a dirty blow all day last Sunday,and doesn't get involved in sledging. Connolly on the other hand went around like a complete thug getting involved in numerous incidents as well as been the cause of 2 Mayo frees been moved forward. But the apologists for Connolly are trying to dirty the name of one of the finest footballers in the country to try and justify the actions of a thug
Keegan is the best wing back in Ireland in his own head. I'd prefer in no particular order
Peter Harte
Colm Boyle
James Mc Carthy
Keegan is great going forward but he's actually a very poor defender hence why he has to wrestle players to the ground against Galway and Dublin this year. Boyle is a much better defender. Keegan is more of a show pony. He has better hair then Boyle though
Keegan is the best HB in the country IMHO. Harte might be second, McCarthy isn't even the best Dublin HB though ffs.
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would have been a disgrace (as it was for Keane) if Connolly got off
Delighted he's gone, who'll keegan target mark now?
I would turn the tables and put Tomas Brady on Keegan and man mark him .... save Dublin a lot of bother !!!
The amount of times you hear this chat amazes me - The defender chooses who he marks, not the other way around!!!
Wrong ... the Dublin manager/ment decide whats best for the team and by the way I'm neutral on the outcome
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would have been a disgrace (as it was for Keane) if Connolly got off
Delighted he's gone, who'll keegan target mark now?
I would turn the tables and put Tomas Brady on Keegan and man mark him .... save Dublin a lot of bother !!!
Turn the table would you. Dublin have been terrified of Keegan in the last 2 meetings hence the reason they sacrificed their best player to man mark him. Despite this Keegan has still outscored Connolly from play over the two games.
All this bullshit about poor auld Connolly getting targeted and Keegan blaguarding him. It's total bullshit and a lack of respect to the best half back in the country. Connolly is used to waltzing around Croke Park in the Leinster championship but when its put up to him and somebody actually marks him he just cant hack it. Lee Keegan did not lay a dirty blow all day last Sunday,and doesn't get involved in sledging. Connolly on the other hand went around like a complete thug getting involved in numerous incidents as well as been the cause of 2 Mayo frees been moved forward. But the apologists for Connolly are trying to dirty the name of one of the finest footballers in the country to try and justify the actions of a thug
Keegan is the best wing back in Ireland in his own head. I'd prefer in no particular order
Peter Harte
Colm Boyle
James Mc Carthy
Keegan is great going forward but he's actually a very poor defender hence why he has to wrestle players to the ground against Galway and Dublin this year. Boyle is a much better defender. Keegan is more of a show pony. He has better hair then Boyle though
Ok Indiana I have to say this. You are f**king mental
The sooner this game is over the better for you Indiana. This has been Dublin's first test of the year and their reaction to it has been hysterical.
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would have been a disgrace (as it was for Keane) if Connolly got off
Delighted he's gone, who'll keegan target mark now?
I would turn the tables and put Tomas Brady on Keegan and man mark him .... save Dublin a lot of bother !!!
Turn the table would you. Dublin have been terrified of Keegan in the last 2 meetings hence the reason they sacrificed their best player to man mark him. Despite this Keegan has still outscored Connolly from play over the two games.
All this bullshit about poor auld Connolly getting targeted and Keegan blaguarding him. It's total bullshit and a lack of respect to the best half back in the country. Connolly is used to waltzing around Croke Park in the Leinster championship but when its put up to him and somebody actually marks him he just cant hack it. Lee Keegan did not lay a dirty blow all day last Sunday,and doesn't get involved in sledging. Connolly on the other hand went around like a complete thug getting involved in numerous incidents as well as been the cause of 2 Mayo frees been moved forward. But the apologists for Connolly are trying to dirty the name of one of the finest footballers in the country to try and justify the actions of a thug
Keegan is the best wing back in Ireland in his own head. I'd prefer in no particular order
Peter Harte
Colm Boyle
James Mc Carthy
Keegan is great going forward but he's actually a very poor defender hence why he has to wrestle players to the ground against Galway and Dublin this year. Boyle is a much better defender. Keegan is more of a show pony. He has better hair then Boyle though
Ok Indiana I have to say this. You are f**king mental
The sooner this game is over the better for you Indiana. This has been Dublin's first test of the year and their reaction to it has been hysterical.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aK8vVk4_n2Q
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would have been a disgrace (as it was for Keane) if Connolly got off
Delighted he's gone, who'll keegan target mark now?
I would turn the tables and put Tomas Brady on Keegan and man mark him .... save Dublin a lot of bother !!!
The amount of times you hear this chat amazes me - The defender chooses who he marks, not the other way around!!!
Wrong ... the Dublin manager/ment decide whats best for the team and by the way I'm neutral on the outcome
Remember Lar Corbett trying to mark Tommy Walsh a couple of years ago, and Jackie Tyrell following Lar, following Tommy, following Pa Bourke. It was so silly looking.
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would have been a disgrace (as it was for Keane) if Connolly got off
Delighted he's gone, who'll keegan target mark now?
I would turn the tables and put Tomas Brady on Keegan and man mark him .... save Dublin a lot of bother !!!
Turn the table would you. Dublin have been terrified of Keegan in the last 2 meetings hence the reason they sacrificed their best player to man mark him. Despite this Keegan has still outscored Connolly from play over the two games.
All this bullshit about poor auld Connolly getting targeted and Keegan blaguarding him. It's total bullshit and a lack of respect to the best half back in the country. Connolly is used to waltzing around Croke Park in the Leinster championship but when its put up to him and somebody actually marks him he just cant hack it. Lee Keegan did not lay a dirty blow all day last Sunday,and doesn't get involved in sledging. Connolly on the other hand went around like a complete thug getting involved in numerous incidents as well as been the cause of 2 Mayo frees been moved forward. But the apologists for Connolly are trying to dirty the name of one of the finest footballers in the country to try and justify the actions of a thug
Keegan is the best wing back in Ireland in his own head. I'd prefer in no particular order
Peter Harte
Colm Boyle
James Mc Carthy
Keegan is great going forward but he's actually a very poor defender hence why he has to wrestle players to the ground against Galway and Dublin this year. Boyle is a much better defender. Keegan is more of a show pony. He has better hair then Boyle though
Ok Indiana I have to say this. You are f**king mental
The sooner this game is over the better for you Indiana. This has been Dublin's first test of the year and their reaction to it has been hysterical.
you'd wonder where he got the mental strength to stay calm on the football pitch when winning Sams and all-stars for all those years
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would have been a disgrace (as it was for Keane) if Connolly got off
Delighted he's gone, who'll keegan target mark now?
I would turn the tables and put Tomas Brady on Keegan and man mark him .... save Dublin a lot of bother !!!
The amount of times you hear this chat amazes me - The defender chooses who he marks, not the other way around!!!
Wrong ... the Dublin manager/ment decide whats best for the team and by the way I'm neutral on the outcome
Remember Lar Corbett trying to mark Tommy Walsh a couple of years ago, and Jackie Tyrell following Lar, following Tommy, following Pa Bourke. It was so silly looking.
It was really hard to fathom why Tipp did that in the first place.
They didn't want Jackie Tyrell to continue his policy of eating Lar Corbett. Why they didn't just line Lar out at wing forward, and Pa Bourke in the corner, I don't know.
All farness Connelly deserves his ban. Great player just a thug of a fellow. So be it.
Good luck to Dub but I think it will be Mayo +5.
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All farness Connelly deserves his ban. Great player just a thug of a fellow. So be it.
Good luck to Dub but I think it will be Mayo +5.
I think you could have said that a few years ago. But of late he has held his station. His sending off in 2011 was a open hand slap after taking dogs abuse for most the match. Nothing really. Last Sundays episode was was a rush of blood, no more. To label the lad a thug is short sighted and unfair.
On another note, I sadly hear that there is to be applause on the 12th minute for Connolly. I implore any Dublin supporters not to do this as it puts a sense of bad taste on the Darragh Doherty tribute and to a lesser extent Robbie Keanes cousins who died tragically recently. Chant his name at the beginning of the game or what ever but don't go down the other route.
You are not serious, surely?
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All farness Connelly deserves his ban. Great player just a thug of a fellow. So be it.
Good luck to Dub but I think it will be Mayo +5.
I think you could have said that a few years ago. But of late he has held his station. His sending off in 2011 was a open hand slap after taking dogs abuse for most the match. Nothing really. Last Sundays episode was was a rush of blood, no more. To label the lad a thug is short sighted and unfair.
On another note, I sadly hear that there is to be applause on the 12th minute for Connolly. I implore any Dublin supporters not to do this as it puts a sense of bad taste on the Darragh Doherty tribute and to a lesser extent Robbie Keanes cousins who died tragically recently. Chant his name at the beginning of the game or what ever but don't go down the other route.
That won't happen.
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All farness Connelly deserves his ban. Great player just a thug of a fellow. So be it.
Good luck to Dub but I think it will be Mayo +5.
I think you could have said that a few years ago. But of late he has held his station. His sending off in 2011 was a open hand slap after taking dogs abuse for most the match. Nothing really. Last Sundays episode was was a rush of blood, no more. To label the lad a thug is short sighted and unfair.
On another note, I sadly hear that there is to be applause on the 12th minute for Connolly. I implore any Dublin supporters not to do this as it puts a sense of bad taste on the Darragh Doherty tribute and to a lesser extent Robbie Keanes cousins who died tragically recently. Chant his name at the beginning of the game or what ever but don't go down the other route.
Let them do what they want afaic. If they want to do that it's a free country.
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All farness Connelly deserves his ban. Great player just a thug of a fellow. So be it.
Good luck to Dub but I think it will be Mayo +5.
I think you could have said that a few years ago. But of late he has held his station. His sending off in 2011 was a open hand slap after taking dogs abuse for most the match. Nothing really. Last Sundays episode was was a rush of blood, no more. To label the lad a thug is short sighted and unfair.
On another note, I sadly hear that there is to be applause on the 12th minute for Connolly. I implore any Dublin supporters not to do this as it puts a sense of bad taste on the Darragh Doherty tribute and to a lesser extent Robbie Keanes cousins who died tragically recently. Chant his name at the beginning of the game or what ever but don't go down the other route.
Oh no, I'm not labeling him a thug over just last Sunday performance and the numerous infractions that day. I'm taking this fellow on his actions over the years. I work with a few lads who knew him growing up and they weren't too keen on the guy. But look, I've no more interest in dishing him, and I'm a fan of his footballing ablity. Hopefully going forward he will keep his fist in his pockets both on and off the field.
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Quote from: AMayoFan on September 04, 2015, 10:30:17 PM
All farness Connelly deserves his ban. Great player just a thug of a fellow. So be it.
Good luck to Dub but I think it will be Mayo +5.
I think you could have said that a few years ago. But of late he has held his station. His sending off in 2011 was a open hand slap after taking dogs abuse for most the match. Nothing really. Last Sundays episode was was a rush of blood, no more. To label the lad a thug is short sighted and unfair.
On another note, I sadly hear that there is to be applause on the 12th minute for Connolly. I implore any Dublin supporters not to do this as it puts a sense of bad taste on the Darragh Doherty tribute and to a lesser extent Robbie Keanes cousins who died tragically recently. Chant his name at the beginning of the game or what ever but don't go down the other route.
Whoever's winding you up caught you hook, line and sinker!!
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All farness Connelly deserves his ban. Great player just a thug of a fellow. So be it.
Good luck to Dub but I think it will be Mayo +5.
I think you could have said that a few years ago. But of late he has held his station. His sending off in 2011 was a open hand slap after taking dogs abuse for most the match. Nothing really. Last Sundays episode was was a rush of blood, no more. To label the lad a thug is short sighted and unfair.
On another note, I sadly hear that there is to be applause on the 12th minute for Connolly. I implore any Dublin supporters not to do this as it puts a sense of bad taste on the Darragh Doherty tribute and to a lesser extent Robbie Keanes cousins who died tragically recently. Chant his name at the beginning of the game or what ever but don't go down the other route.
Whoever's winding you up caught you hook, line and sinker!!
A Dublin supporters group on Facebook suggested it. Seems Chinese whispers were at work but the idea was in awful taste and thankfully another supporters' group was quick to shoot down the suggestion: http://www.joe.ie/sport/dublin-gaa-fan-pages-rubbish-calls-for-a-diarmuid-connolly-tribute-minute/510859
Breaking news from last night .. Connolly cleared to play!!! Well that puts the cat among the pigeons lol
So both teams are at full strenght, both know what each other is about. Oh this is going to be a cracker.
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All farness Connelly deserves his ban. Great player just a thug of a fellow. So be it.
Good luck to Dub but I think it will be Mayo +5.
Whose Connelly thought he managed Mayo ?
Quote from: INDIANA on September 05, 2015, 08:56:00 AM
Quote from: AMayoFan on September 04, 2015, 10:30:17 PM
All farness Connelly deserves his ban. Great player just a thug of a fellow. So be it.
Good luck to Dub but I think it will be Mayo +5.
Whose Connelly thought he managed Mayo ?
You must mean 'who's' instead of 'whose' just like AMF must mean 'Connolly' not 'Connelly'.