National Games Development Centre

Started by GlenMan, April 04, 2016, 04:33:03 PM

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Dinny Breen

Quote from: Stad on April 04, 2016, 08:19:01 PM
^ So again all of us are paying for something Dublin gain from. A new state of the art training facility to go along with paying for their 80,000 capacity home stadium, aswell ofcourse as paying for developing all their players. And do we hear a word of gratitude from the Dubs? Not at all. They have no shame.

Sure it's nothing to do with money don't be stupid it's just all those volunteers giving up their time. Orwell would be proud.
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Stad

Quote from: Dinny Breen on April 04, 2016, 08:41:19 PM
Quote from: Stad on April 04, 2016, 08:19:01 PM
^ So again all of us are paying for something Dublin gain from. A new state of the art training facility to go along with paying for their 80,000 capacity home stadium, aswell ofcourse as paying for developing all their players. And do we hear a word of gratitude from the Dubs? Not at all. They have no shame.

Sure it's nothing to do with money don't be stupid it's just all those volunteers giving up their time. Orwell would be proud.

Ah you're right there, sure all those paid coaches and organisers are just gettin in the way.

Declan

QuoteSo again all of us are paying for something Dublin gain from. A new state of the art training facility to go along with paying for their 80,000 capacity home stadium, aswell ofcourse as paying for developing all their players. And do we hear a word of gratitude from the Dubs? Not at all. They have no shame.

Never let it be said - Thanks lads

The Aristocrat

Dublin don't need to use it and imagine wont use it much. Dublin have the best and naturally gifted players the country has seen and playing the best brand of football ever seen, why go out to there. It was built to improve the weaker counties such as Meath, Kildare etc.

GlenMan

Quote from: The Aristocrat on April 05, 2016, 08:37:11 AM
Dublin don't need to use it and imagine wont use it much. Dublin have the best and naturally gifted players the country has seen and playing the best brand of football ever seen, why go out to there. It was built to improve the weaker counties such as Meath, Kildare etc.

Actually Dublin is set to become the anchor tenant as soon as possible. Read below-

National Sports Campus set to be Dublin's new training base

Set to open on April 2, a significant part of the GAA's 30-acre national games and development centre on the Abbotstown site is set to become a de facto centre of excellence for the county.

Dublin's footballers and hurlers currently train on DCU's pitches in St Clare's, Glasnevin but the indications are they will move their operations to the Blanchardstown venue where there will be four sand-based pitches and a 3G pitch, all floodlit. One of the fields will have the exact dimensions of the Croke Park playing surface.

The Dublin County Board are expected to use the €2m promised to them by the GAA for the scrapped development of a green site in Rathcoole to go towards the rental fees in becoming tenants-in-chief there.

Money from Croke Park's staging of rugby and soccer games in the 2000s had been ring-fenced for the project in the south-west of the county.

The GAA have contributed €8m towards their NSC development, which also includes 10 dressing rooms, a 450-seat stand and ancillary facilities. In his annual report released last month, director general Páraic Duffy said the centre will assist the Leinster Council as well as Dublin in delivering its games programmes. Duffy has previously stressed Dublin won't have exclusive use of the centre although the county board have made it clear their intentions to take up training residency there.

They have also estimated the take-up from neighbouring counties to use the venue won't be large.

Dublin's relocation from Glasnevin would be ideal particularly for Jim Gavin's footballers. Their strength and conditioning work has been done in the National Athletic Development Academy, two kilometres away from the NSC. Since December 2012, they have also had a partnership with the NSC's National Aquatic Centre (NAC) "as part of their overall training and recuperation strategy".

Croí na hÉireann

Quote from: Declan on April 05, 2016, 08:22:43 AM
QuoteSo again all of us are paying for something Dublin gain from. A new state of the art training facility to go along with paying for their 80,000 capacity home stadium, aswell ofcourse as paying for developing all their players. And do we hear a word of gratitude from the Dubs? Not at all. They have no shame.

Never let it be said - Thanks lads

;D

Can't see Jim Gavin letting the whole country watch his training session out in Abbottstown but I'm sure the development/underage squads will be camped out there.
Westmeath - Home of the Christy Ring Cup...

Beffs

Yep. There is no way the Dublin seniors will be anywhere near Abbotstown, from oh....about Paddys Day to August/September. They may do some 'clear the cobwebs out' sessions in the depths of winter, that they aren't terribly bothered about anyone seeing. Once the league is in full swing, you won't ser them for dust.

Canalman

Quote from: GlenMan on April 05, 2016, 11:04:19 AM
Quote from: The Aristocrat on April 05, 2016, 08:37:11 AM
Dublin don't need to use it and imagine wont use it much. Dublin have the best and naturally gifted players the country has seen and playing the best brand of football ever seen, why go out to there. It was built to improve the weaker counties such as Meath, Kildare etc.

Actually Dublin is set to become the anchor tenant as soon as possible. Read below-

National Sports Campus set to be Dublin's new training base

Set to open on April 2, a significant part of the GAA's 30-acre national games and development centre on the Abbotstown site is set to become a de facto centre of excellence for the county.

Dublin's footballers and hurlers currently train on DCU's pitches in St Clare's, Glasnevin but the indications are they will move their operations to the Blanchardstown venue where there will be four sand-based pitches and a 3G pitch, all floodlit. One of the fields will have the exact dimensions of the Croke Park playing surface.

The Dublin County Board are expected to use the €2m promised to them by the GAA for the scrapped development of a green site in Rathcoole to go towards the rental fees in becoming tenants-in-chief there.

Money from Croke Park's staging of rugby and soccer games in the 2000s had been ring-fenced for the project in the south-west of the county.

The GAA have contributed €8m towards their NSC development, which also includes 10 dressing rooms, a 450-seat stand and ancillary facilities. In his annual report released last month, director general Páraic Duffy said the centre will assist the Leinster Council as well as Dublin in delivering its games programmes. Duffy has previously stressed Dublin won't have exclusive use of the centre although the county board have made it clear their intentions to take up training residency there.

They have also estimated the take-up from neighbouring counties to use the venue won't be large.

Dublin's relocation from Glasnevin would be ideal particularly for Jim Gavin's footballers. Their strength and conditioning work has been done in the National Athletic Development Academy, two kilometres away from the NSC. Since December 2012, they have also had a partnership with the NSC's National Aquatic Centre (NAC) "as part of their overall training and recuperation strategy".


All speculation in that article which I think came from the Cork Examiner.

Playing to the gallery big time.

You'd swear all these centres of excellence built the length and breadth of the country were built without GAA or Government grants themselves.

Some people just cannot accept the fact that townies might in fact be better footballers than them at the moment. All a great laugh when Dublin footballers  were losing semi finals and quarter finals in humiliating circumstances................ not so now.

thewobbler

I don't see how a concept like this would be anything other than a money pit without an anchor tenant, and let's be honest, there is only one potential tenant.

Have to say it's a disgusting waste of money from the GAA. Growth of Gaelic Games is dependent on nationwide participation, which requires counties across Ireland being able to compete like for like. A facility in the middle of Ireland is of absolutely no use to any county beyond the Midlands.

My own county is destroyed with debt from a fiasco when they tried to build one these centres themselves. I'm sure there's a similar story at play in half a dozen other counties. Half a million Euro to each of those would have been a more pragmatic spend, with guaranteed usage, and guaranteed long term results.

rosnarun

Quote from: thewobbler on April 05, 2016, 01:07:58 PM
I don't see how a concept like this would be anything other than a money pit without an anchor tenant, and let's be honest, there is only one potential tenant.

Have to say it's a disgusting waste of money from the GAA. Growth of Gaelic Games is dependent on nationwide participation, which requires counties across Ireland being able to compete like for like. A facility in the middle of Ireland is of absolutely no use to any county beyond the Midlands.

My own county is destroyed with debt from a fiasco when they tried to build one these centres themselves. I'm sure there's a similar story at play in half a dozen other counties. Half a million Euro to each of those would have been a more pragmatic spend, with guaranteed usage, and guaranteed long term results.

this whole wheeze goes back to the Bertie bowl and in in return for Political Favours . for Abbottstown to work the GAA FAI and IRFU had to have a presence there , when the bowl itself was Scrapped  to save face it became even more essential . so to curry favour the Aviva  was built Croke park got a few extra quid for the debt and every one is Happy .
Maybe a few new clubs could be developed in the area with all the extra pitches??
If you make yourself understood, you're always speaking well. Moliere

Jinxy

I look forward to seeing National Games Development Centre Gaels line out in the Dublin championship.
If you were any use you'd be playing.

Rossfan

Maybe Meath could use it and sell the green grassy slopes.
We in Connacht of course won't need it as we have the PrentyCentre in Ballyhaunis which is so handy for Melvin Gaels, Portumna, Belmullet etc etc.
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

Maroon Manc

How much did this development cost?

ballinaman

Quote from: Rossfan on April 05, 2016, 03:50:44 PM
Maybe Meath could use it and sell the green grassy slopes.
We in Connacht of course won't need it as we have the PrentyCentre in Ballyhaunis which is so handy for Melvin Gaels, Portumna, Belmullet etc etc.
Name a location that would suit those 3 clubs.

GlenMan