Man Utd Thread:

[Boycey]

Anyone with United in their heart should have a read of that thread

https://twitter.com/TFWriter/status/1215002365486682112?s=19

[magpie seanie]

Cameron Borthwick Jackson being recalled from his loan at Tranmere.

He had 2 league appearances for Tranmere who ply their trade 3rd from the bottom in League One.

He's hardly being recalled to boost the squad?

That's how bad things are. I'd say Ole realises the gimps aren't going to buy any players for him.

I think the gimps have already decided to sack Ole. Apparently he has been told if they don't beat Norwich he's gone. I'd guess they'll then bring in Pochettino and sign a couple of players and all the idiots will be delighted. Until they don't buy anyone in the summer and we're here again this time next year in the same position.

[Jeepers Creepers]

Cameron Borthwick Jackson being recalled from his loan at Tranmere.

He had 2 league appearances for Tranmere who ply their trade 3rd from the bottom in League One.

He's hardly being recalled to boost the squad?

De ja vu. Here we go again.

That's how bad things are. I'd say Ole realises the gimps aren't going to buy any players for him.

I think the gimps have already decided to sack Ole. Apparently he has been told if they don't beat Norwich he's gone. I'd guess they'll then bring in Pochettino and sign a couple of players and all the idiots will be delighted. Until they don't buy anyone in the summer and we're here again this time next year in the same position.

De ja vu. Here we go again.

[magpie seanie]

Cameron Borthwick Jackson being recalled from his loan at Tranmere.

He had 2 league appearances for Tranmere who ply their trade 3rd from the bottom in League One.

He's hardly being recalled to boost the squad?

De ja vu. Here we go again.

That's how bad things are. I'd say Ole realises the gimps aren't going to buy any players for him.

I think the gimps have already decided to sack Ole. Apparently he has been told if they don't beat Norwich he's gone. I'd guess they'll then bring in Pochettino and sign a couple of players and all the idiots will be delighted. Until they don't buy anyone in the summer and we're here again this time next year in the same position.

De ja vu. Here we go again.

Moyes was overawed by the club so I wasn't against him being sacked.

LVG got transfers wrong, his approach was outdated and the football was constipated but he gave it everything and I felt he was harshly treated.

Mourinho should never have been appointed. He didn't get the club and it was all about him. The football was awful as his usually is. He stopped doing his job and quit. Should never have been there.

Ole has had 8 or 9 months as permanent manager including only one transfer window. I wrote at length about what I thought earlier this week. It hasn't been brilliant but the facts are that United are closer to making the CL places than they were last year at this time. His biggest problem is not enough players which surely must be down to the owners and Woodworm. Sacking him now makes zero sense when they've clearly refused to back him. I can almost understand them not backing Mourinho when he had bought two centre halves the previous year yet was looking for more but in the current situation, not buying players if effectively constructive dismissal. And they're doing this because of the supporters which is the saddest thing. Our own supporters are getting a club legend the sack and are and have done SFA about getting rid of the poisonous cnuts that own the club. That's what grates with me. Ole may not be the man to bring the glory back but sacking a guy who loves the club and has given us so many great days because so called United supporters have turned on him - a new low for me.

[GetOverTheBar]

Cameron Borthwick Jackson being recalled from his loan at Tranmere.

He had 2 league appearances for Tranmere who ply their trade 3rd from the bottom in League One.

He's hardly being recalled to boost the squad?

De ja vu. Here we go again.

That's how bad things are. I'd say Ole realises the gimps aren't going to buy any players for him.

I think the gimps have already decided to sack Ole. Apparently he has been told if they don't beat Norwich he's gone. I'd guess they'll then bring in Pochettino and sign a couple of players and all the idiots will be delighted. Until they don't buy anyone in the summer and we're here again this time next year in the same position.

De ja vu. Here we go again.

Moyes was overawed by the club so I wasn't against him being sacked.

LVG got transfers wrong, his approach was outdated and the football was constipated but he gave it everything and I felt he was harshly treated.

Mourinho should never have been appointed. He didn't get the club and it was all about him. The football was awful as his usually is. He stopped doing his job and quit. Should never have been there.

Ole has had 8 or 9 months as permanent manager including only one transfer window. I wrote at length about what I thought earlier this week. It hasn't been brilliant but the facts are that United are closer to making the CL places than they were last year at this time. His biggest problem is not enough players which surely must be down to the owners and Woodworm. Sacking him now makes zero sense when they've clearly refused to back him. I can almost understand them not backing Mourinho when he had bought two centre halves the previous year yet was looking for more but in the current situation, not buying players if effectively constructive dismissal. And they're doing this because of the supporters which is the saddest thing. Our own supporters are getting a club legend the sack and are and have done SFA about getting rid of the poisonous cnuts that own the club. That's what grates with me. Ole may not be the man to bring the glory back but sacking a guy who loves the club and has given us so many great days because so called United supporters have turned on him - a new low for me.

United are never getting rid of the Glazers....ever. Unless the Saudis or Qatari or whoever in the Middle East needs an insurance policy at a ridiculously overrated price. The prior twitter link is....well, why would you leave the club. They are completely bleeding Utd, perhaps to death.

[Boycey]

Where have the United fans turned against Ole and are trying to get him the sack? In my opinion the fans never really turned on any of the guys who have had the job since Fergie.... Internet chatter doesn't count

[magpie seanie]

Cameron Borthwick Jackson being recalled from his loan at Tranmere.

He had 2 league appearances for Tranmere who ply their trade 3rd from the bottom in League One.

He's hardly being recalled to boost the squad?

De ja vu. Here we go again.

That's how bad things are. I'd say Ole realises the gimps aren't going to buy any players for him.

I think the gimps have already decided to sack Ole. Apparently he has been told if they don't beat Norwich he's gone. I'd guess they'll then bring in Pochettino and sign a couple of players and all the idiots will be delighted. Until they don't buy anyone in the summer and we're here again this time next year in the same position.

De ja vu. Here we go again.

Moyes was overawed by the club so I wasn't against him being sacked.

LVG got transfers wrong, his approach was outdated and the football was constipated but he gave it everything and I felt he was harshly treated.

Mourinho should never have been appointed. He didn't get the club and it was all about him. The football was awful as his usually is. He stopped doing his job and quit. Should never have been there.

Ole has had 8 or 9 months as permanent manager including only one transfer window. I wrote at length about what I thought earlier this week. It hasn't been brilliant but the facts are that United are closer to making the CL places than they were last year at this time. His biggest problem is not enough players which surely must be down to the owners and Woodworm. Sacking him now makes zero sense when they've clearly refused to back him. I can almost understand them not backing Mourinho when he had bought two centre halves the previous year yet was looking for more but in the current situation, not buying players if effectively constructive dismissal. And they're doing this because of the supporters which is the saddest thing. Our own supporters are getting a club legend the sack and are and have done SFA about getting rid of the poisonous cnuts that own the club. That's what grates with me. Ole may not be the man to bring the glory back but sacking a guy who loves the club and has given us so many great days because so called United supporters have turned on him - a new low for me.

United are never getting rid of the Glazers....ever. Unless the Saudis or Qatari or whoever in the Middle East needs an insurance policy at a ridiculously overrated price. The prior twitter link is....well, why would you leave the club. They are completely bleeding Utd, perhaps to death.

You clearly don't understand how this works. The reason the club is valued so highly is because of the massive revenue and profit making ability it has demonstrated year after year. One of the world's top 2 or 3 repeatedly. And unlike the other top 2 or 3 have shown a remarkable ability to generate revenue and profits without on pitch success. The club has hundreds of millions of supporters all over the world. This is where the revenue is directly or indirectly generated from. The Glazers have played these people for fools since they've arrived. Sack a manager and buy a player when there's disquiet and roll on raping the club.

Sacking a club legend is not the answer but will appease many idiots who'll continue to buy the jersey, click the likes etc to help these mercenaries run the club into the ground. It disgusts me to be brutally honest about it.

[magpie seanie]

Where have the United fans turned against Ole and are trying to get him the sack? In my opinion the fans never really turned on any of the guys who have had the job since Fergie.... Internet chatter doesn't count

Sadly though in the world of business which is all the gimps are concerned with "Internet chatter" as you call it is as important as the match going red. I could be mistaken but I seem to detect much more negativity towards Ole than for example the previous manager.

Match going supporters have by been a credit during difficult times it should be said.

[GetOverTheBar]

Cameron Borthwick Jackson being recalled from his loan at Tranmere.

He had 2 league appearances for Tranmere who ply their trade 3rd from the bottom in League One.

He's hardly being recalled to boost the squad?

De ja vu. Here we go again.

That's how bad things are. I'd say Ole realises the gimps aren't going to buy any players for him.

I think the gimps have already decided to sack Ole. Apparently he has been told if they don't beat Norwich he's gone. I'd guess they'll then bring in Pochettino and sign a couple of players and all the idiots will be delighted. Until they don't buy anyone in the summer and we're here again this time next year in the same position.

De ja vu. Here we go again.

Moyes was overawed by the club so I wasn't against him being sacked.

LVG got transfers wrong, his approach was outdated and the football was constipated but he gave it everything and I felt he was harshly treated.

Mourinho should never have been appointed. He didn't get the club and it was all about him. The football was awful as his usually is. He stopped doing his job and quit. Should never have been there.

Ole has had 8 or 9 months as permanent manager including only one transfer window. I wrote at length about what I thought earlier this week. It hasn't been brilliant but the facts are that United are closer to making the CL places than they were last year at this time. His biggest problem is not enough players which surely must be down to the owners and Woodworm. Sacking him now makes zero sense when they've clearly refused to back him. I can almost understand them not backing Mourinho when he had bought two centre halves the previous year yet was looking for more but in the current situation, not buying players if effectively constructive dismissal. And they're doing this because of the supporters which is the saddest thing. Our own supporters are getting a club legend the sack and are and have done SFA about getting rid of the poisonous cnuts that own the club. That's what grates with me. Ole may not be the man to bring the glory back but sacking a guy who loves the club and has given us so many great days because so called United supporters have turned on him - a new low for me.

United are never getting rid of the Glazers....ever. Unless the Saudis or Qatari or whoever in the Middle East needs an insurance policy at a ridiculously overrated price. The prior twitter link is....well, why would you leave the club. They are completely bleeding Utd, perhaps to death.

You clearly don't understand how this works. The reason the club is valued so highly is because of the massive revenue and profit making ability it has demonstrated year after year. One of the world's top 2 or 3 repeatedly. And unlike the other top 2 or 3 have shown a remarkable ability to generate revenue and profits without on pitch success. The club has hundreds of millions of supporters all over the world. This is where the revenue is directly or indirectly generated from. The Glazers have played these people for fools since they've arrived. Sack a manager and buy a player when there's disquiet and roll on raping the club.

Sacking a club legend is not the answer but will appease many idiots who'll continue to buy the jersey, click the likes etc to help these mercenaries run the club into the ground. It disgusts me to be brutally honest about it.

Forgive me, but I think it's you who might not understand on this occasion.

As you say, the fanbase is divided and there'll be many 'fans' who will buy the jersey still. So how do you expect these same supporters to somehow unite and indeed somehow try and force the Glazers out of the club.

This is not Newcastle United, who, incidentally still can't get rid of their owner despite being a much, much easier task

The cost of missing out on the Champions League is well documented, United have missed out now and multiple occasions. That has not stopped them, how do you suggest that fans get together in what would be a monumental alliance to try and force the owners of the club who are, as you say raping Manchester United to a cost that would make them look about selling, probably something in and around 500mil to 1b loss....lets just speculate.

I would suggest the true fans of United might be able to do something small, token like - probably some already are, not taking up season tickets and the likes, however United have made a rod for their own backs with their commercialisation, the tourist 'fans' are still going to prop up attendances, still going to buy the jersey as you say.

I don't see any set of circumstances that would force the Glazers to leave United, the money will keep rolling in as we both agree - by the time the casual fans pack it in to the cost, the club will likely be completely finished.

[Mike Tyson]

Where have the United fans turned against Ole and are trying to get him the sack? In my opinion the fans never really turned on any of the guys who have had the job since Fergie.... Internet chatter doesn't count

Sadly though in the world of business which is all the gimps are concerned with "Internet chatter" as you call it is as important as the match going red. I could be mistaken but I seem to detect much more negativity towards Ole than for example the previous manager.

Match going supporters have by been a credit during difficult times it should be said.

I'd put that down to his shockingly bad win rate since being made permanent - worse than his time at Cardiff. I have never thought he should have got it to be honest, only previous experience in PL was relegating Cardiff.

I don't see any reason for keeping him, he's shown no tactical awareness and when things go wrong in a match when has he made a change to reverse it and come back and win? Correct me if I'm wrong but Newcastle is the only game which stands out when United have come from behind to win. The football United are playing is terrible.

The fact he consistently plays Lingard is baffling when he has shown nothing to suggest he should get a game for another premier league club never mind United. Giving Young, Smalling & Jones contract extensions last year too beggars belief when he apparently was shifting on the dead wood.

Even the nonsense he comes out with to the press - not parking in the managers parking space because it's Fergie's spot ("It just doesn't feel right parking there. It's still the gaffer's (Fergie) place."), the guarantee of top 4 by Christmas, about how City are where United want to be etc - all Moyes-esque quotes.

For me the job is too big for him and needs someone who has proven they can win with the pressure of a big club - Allegri would be my choice.

[mouview]

Anyone with United in their heart should have a read of that thread

https://twitter.com/TFWriter/status/1215002365486682112?s=19

The Glazers are some legacy SAF (through his stupid horse-racing antics) have saddled MU with.

[rodney trotter]

They will keep him until end of season. They are 5pts behind Chelsea in 4th. Chelsea aren't consistent either so they can be caught. United have the Europa League also.

If they were to change in the summer, I'd like to see Allegri over Pochettino. Spurs always seemed to fade away under Pochettino. They made the CL final but the league form was poor in that period. The year Leicester won the title Spurs were in a good position, ann and went into a meltdown.

[Square Ball]

They will keep him until end of season. They are 5pts behind Chelsea in 4th. Chelsea aren't consistent either so they can be caught. United have the Europa League also.

If they were to change in the summer, I'd like to see Allegri over Pochettino. Spurs always seemed to fade away under Pochettino. They made the CL final but the league form was poor in that period. The year Leicester won the title Spurs were in a good position, ann and went into a meltdown.

Agree Dave, but will any of these managers be about in the summer if they wait?

[rodney trotter]

They could be already having initial talks with potential managers.  Mourinho was appointed manager at Spurs, the day after Pochettino was sacked. Allegri and probaly Pochettino, are following the United situation knowing he is under pressure.

[GJL]

Until there are changes at the top on how the club is structured and run it matters not who the manager is.