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GAA Discussion / Re: Provincial Championship Draws 2018 tonight
« on: October 19, 2017, 05:33:02 PM »
Ahhh Redhand you're far too nice for this forum.
You have to be moaning and running down things at all costs.
SeÓnie  you're right about ye're bucks heading to Ruislip and the Laythrums going to NY.
The London CB might lose out on bar takings this year as their Bank Holiday weekend will be gone unless of course it's on 6th May.

There are plenty of things to complain about when it comes to the scheduling of club football with the fault lying between central gaa, county boards and clubs themselves (not taking games/competitions seriously when county players not involved and getting games called off). But I don't think tonight's championship draw or the international rules are huge issues when it comes to the lack of clear club fixtures. If anything the early draw should help club fixture planning.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Provincial Championship Draws 2018 tonight
« on: October 19, 2017, 04:55:04 PM »
Anything for the GAA to get the focus back on the county teams and away from the clubs... time enough doing this in February... most borefest the football anyway

I'd have thought it was more to do with getting a master fixtures schedule in place for the following year allowing the counties to know when they will play and in theory plan club fixtures etc around it. I'm sure the gaa would get more exposure out of the draw if it was closer to championship time but it just isn't appropriate. I don't see tonight's draw having a huge impact on the focus on club games.
Of course it. longballin, do you actually believe what you've just typed or are you just being mischievous?

I believe GAA has little regard for club games and view them as a necessary nuisance even to point of putting on Aussie Rules game right in middle of club championship rather than February or preferably never...

The vast majority of players club seasons will be finished up by November and those still playing will be happy to miss the international rules. So maybe with the odd exception (seems unlikely this year) the players playing won't miss any club games as the season is over.  The games will be on tv early in the mornings so won't clash with club games. How do you see them impacting the club games? Personally I wouldn't begrudge any player going on the trip to represent their country providing they aren't missing important club games.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Provincial Championship Draws 2018 tonight
« on: October 19, 2017, 04:00:45 PM »
Anything for the GAA to get the focus back on the county teams and away from the clubs... time enough doing this in February... most borefest the football anyway

I'd have thought it was more to do with getting a master fixtures schedule in place for the following year allowing the counties to know when they will play and in theory plan club fixtures etc around it. I'm sure the gaa would get more exposure out of the draw if it was closer to championship time but it just isn't appropriate. I don't see tonight's draw having a huge impact on the focus on club games.

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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
« on: October 18, 2017, 08:16:38 AM »
Conan Grugan has to get a recall into the Tyrone setup surely he has been best midfielder by far IMO.

As someone else said Grugan doesn't even play midfield for Omagh. He made one great catch on Sunday but didn't win that much other possession around the middle. From what I've seen of him in a few championship games this year he has the same issue of some of Tyrone's existing and former players. He is classy and will produce good moments in the game like the great left footed point he scored on Sunday or the catch I referred to. But he doesn't do enough in games or dominate them. That was the same problem I thought he had the last time he was involved. If he was to get another go I'd say it would be around the half forward line as opposed to midfield.

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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
« on: October 16, 2017, 08:09:13 AM »
omagh too much quality. apart from first 10 and last 10 they pretty much dominated. could have kicked on and won more comfy when they had the chance goin 4 or 5 up. poor enough game though

Watching the quality free flowing football on offer from the two best teams in the county yesterday would make you wonder how Harte hasn't Tyrone beating the Dubs easily playing similar tactics. With all the top class forwards on display it should be an easy job dominating at county level.

Poor enough game I thought yesterday. Both teams playing quite similar defensive football. Too much short pass and moving the ball about around the 50. Errigal were behind and every time they got a score sat back and let Omagh walk up the pitch and pick off scores at the other end.

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General discussion / Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on France 2016
« on: October 05, 2017, 02:53:25 PM »
Wouldn't be surprised if we only drew with Moldova

I could see this happen too :( hopefully not.


It's not a problem if we draw funnily enough. If we beat Wales we'll be in the same position as if we beat Moldova, i.e. 2nd in group and the points won against the lowest placed team in the group do not count for comparison against other 2nd place teams.

It surely is a problem if Wales won tomorrow night? They'd be three points clear of Ireland with a superior goal difference of 5 or more? Not only would Ireland have to win on Monday they'd possibly need to win by 3 goals or more? Maybe I've read it wrong.

Head to head

I'd read somewhere it was points then goal difference, the above makes sense if its head to head.

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General discussion / Re: The OFFICIAL FAI Thread.....Roll on France 2016
« on: October 05, 2017, 02:22:53 PM »
Wouldn't be surprised if we only drew with Moldova

I could see this happen too :( hopefully not.


It's not a problem if we draw funnily enough. If we beat Wales we'll be in the same position as if we beat Moldova, i.e. 2nd in group and the points won against the lowest placed team in the group do not count for comparison against other 2nd place teams.

It surely is a problem if Wales won tomorrow night? They'd be three points clear of Ireland with a superior goal difference of 5 or more? Not only would Ireland have to win on Monday they'd possibly need to win by 3 goals or more? Maybe I've read it wrong.

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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
« on: October 04, 2017, 08:05:55 AM »
Tyrone wouldn't be paying backroom team surely? Is this what Club Tyrone is funding?

You want him to be a full time strength and conditioning coach for the county for all the teams for free? How will he support himself? If Tyrone have any ambitions of doing anything they will have to put some money into this area.

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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
« on: October 02, 2017, 01:32:32 PM »
with the IFC final now in Carrickmore it could be a bad omen for the Moy. for some reason their last final in 2008 was played in Carrickmore and not Omagh, and they were beaten that day by Trillick. also their previous IFC final appearance before that was against  Clann Na nGael in 1998 and i'm pretty sure they were beaten in Carrickmore that day as well.

Would Derrylaughan not be viewed as favorites anyway?

Yeah heavy favorites at that

Don't think too many bookies would be giving long odds on a Moy win. I'd say it'll be close to even betting.

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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
« on: October 02, 2017, 10:00:20 AM »
with the IFC final now in Carrickmore it could be a bad omen for the Moy. for some reason their last final in 2008 was played in Carrickmore and not Omagh, and they were beaten that day by Trillick. also their previous IFC final appearance before that was against  Clann Na nGael in 1998 and i'm pretty sure they were beaten in Carrickmore that day as well.

Think that is correct though they've won two games there this year. Not sure the venue will have a huge impact either way. Wouldn't say there is too much between the teams, would imagine it'll be a close competitive game.

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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
« on: October 02, 2017, 09:59:12 AM »
Nally Stand would be empty in Omagh how many people watch the game behind goals.Omagh is the only place for county finals.Tattyreagh must have done something  to annoy CCC 2 county finals in a row being played outside the countys premier venue.

Other than the stand and press box there's not much premier about it. Very open and given the size leads to a poor enough atmosphere for club games without big crowds and the pitch is always heavy.

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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
« on: October 02, 2017, 08:32:22 AM »
Carrickmore definitely generates better atmosphere for club games and is a much more sensible choice for the junior and intermediate finals. Though in the past the senior final has attracted anyway from 7000 to 11000. I'm not sure Carrickmore is ideal for crowds of that size. Parking wouldn't be the best. What does it actually hold? Would Pomeroy not be the more likely option if the final is moved anyway? I can't see it being moved out of Omagh either way.

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GAA Discussion / Re: International rules
« on: September 29, 2017, 09:11:23 AM »
The last two tests had some of Australia's top players playing and were close good games. People who are against the international rules quickly forget the positives. Australia had previously committed to playing players who had won the equivalent of an all star, I assume that is still the case this year.

 In the past when Australia put out their best players they were too quick and strong for the Irish. But both games have changed since then. The gap in size of the top players has narrowed and the Irish players have got fitter. They still cant quite match the Australians but have other advantages. Hoping for a good series as their is plenty of benefits of this at a quiet time of year for gaa coverage. Hopefully another Gary Brennan emerges, he was excellent last time.

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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
« on: September 27, 2017, 02:15:58 PM »
Looking forward to hearing STG's thoughts on the game last night?

It doesn't get much more insightful than his opinion that McKernan can handle Mark Bradley based on last years championship in which Bradley scored 14 points over two games v Coalisland, 8 or 9 of them from play.
mc kernan held Bradley to 2 from play in drawn game and like I said he was the only one who came close to marking him last year. Didn't Bradley destroy the county men mc Crory and mc Carron last year? Is mc kernan not worthy of a county call up?

I didn't say he didn't deserve a call up but I wouldn't be basing it on how he handled Mark Bradley who scored 8 or 9 from play in the 2 championship games last year.

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Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
« on: September 27, 2017, 11:43:37 AM »
Looking forward to hearing STG's thoughts on the game last night?

It doesn't get much more insightful than his opinion that McKernan can handle Mark Bradley based on last years championship in which Bradley scored 14 points over two games v Coalisland, 8 or 9 of them from play.

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