Premier League 20/21

[Bronco]

Wenger was great for a decade or so. Guardiola has always been the emperor's new clothes. When Aguero isn't playing they're awful. Totally reliant on a player he inherited and despite having unlimited funds at his disposal he has failed to assemble a decent defence.

[Cunny Funt]

I see the European Champions got walloped today too, PSG not pulling up many trees either. Still being in pre-season mode not ideal it seems.

Most of the clubs that had European competitions in August seem to be struggling for fitness and sharpness. Watching Wolves now and they look a míle off the pace.

[Farrandeelin]

League over after 2 games. Liverpool have it won already. Standard is shockingly poor these days.

My thoughts exactly.

[J70]

I don't have much sympathy for Dier there. He had his arms away from his body and knows the rules, only has himself to blame.

Have you ever played football?

There is simply no way to jump for a ball, especially amidst a group, without your arms coming away from your body.

That handball was a joke. Same with Palace yesterday, Spurs last week and united last week.

[Bronco]

Yes, I have played football. And i always found it was a good idea not to give stupid penalties away. Seems Dier hasn't learned that lesson yet.

The bottom line is he knows the rule, he knows Newcastle are desperate for a goal, and yet he still flails an arm out in the box. Absolute stupidity and he got what he deserved.

I don't have much sympathy for Dier there. He had his arms away from his body and knows the rules, only has himself to blame.

Have you ever played football?

There is simply no way to jump for a ball, especially amidst a group, without your arms coming away from your body.

That handball was a joke. Same with Palace yesterday, Spurs last week and united last week.

[Boycey]

Fair play to Steve Bruce for calling it like it was today.....

[thewobbler]

Yes, I have played football. And i always found it was a good idea not to give stupid penalties away. Seems Dier hasn't learned that lesson yet.

The bottom line is he knows the rule, he knows Newcastle are desperate for a goal, and yet he still flails an arm out in the box. Absolute stupidity and he got what he deserved.

I don't have much sympathy for Dier there. He had his arms away from his body and knows the rules, only has himself to blame.

Have you ever played football?

There is simply no way to jump for a ball, especially amidst a group, without your arms coming away from your body.

That handball was a joke. Same with Palace yesterday, Spurs last week and united last week.

I doubt you have ever played any sport to be honest. The rules of all sports are designed (and evolve) to prevent competitors from gaining an unsporting advantage; they are designed to reward skill, application, intelligence and precision. They aren't designed to reward unskilled play, or random instances of bad luck.

You want to try your luck, go to a casino.

[Never beat the deeler]

Question re : Man Utd VAR penalty yesterday - game was over, if player hits a post or gk saves and there is a rebound - can they score ? Or is the match completed with the kick ?

Good question and I don't know the answer. To follow the logic - if it was over with the last kick, wouldn't that also mean that if the keeper got a hand to it, the game would be over before the ball went in?

[J70]

Fair play to Steve Bruce for calling it like it was today.....

It's going to bite every team on the arse eventually.

If they don't change it, players are simply going to have to stop tackling and challenging for the ball in the air when in the box.

Worst part is that there was little wrong with the old, traditional interpretation of handball.

[Hound]

I don't have much sympathy for Dier there. He had his arms away from his body and knows the rules, only has himself to blame.

Have you ever played football?

There is simply no way to jump for a ball, especially amidst a group, without your arms coming away from your body.

That handball was a joke. Same with Palace yesterday, Spurs last week and united last week.

I wouldn't lump them all in together. I understand what the new rules are trying to do, and most of them are fair enough. As Souness said, it's our mindset that has to change, we're so used to watching them not been given for years that we just scream 'too harsh'. The new rules make it easier for decisions to be consistent, and generally they have been, but there'll always be errors.

The Dier one was definitely an error. A poor decision. Made all the more massive by the timing. Hopefully the premier league will admit the mistake and note the difference between it and the others.

[Dar31]

Question re : Man Utd VAR penalty yesterday - game was over, if player hits a post or gk saves and there is a rebound - can they score ? Or is the match completed with the kick ?

I think i read that there cant be any rebound as the match is over and the penalty will literally be the lask kick of the game

[J70]

I don't have much sympathy for Dier there. He had his arms away from his body and knows the rules, only has himself to blame.

Have you ever played football?

There is simply no way to jump for a ball, especially amidst a group, without your arms coming away from your body.

That handball was a joke. Same with Palace yesterday, Spurs last week and united last week.

I wouldn't lump them all in together. I understand what the new rules are trying to do, and most of them are fair enough. As Souness said, it's our mindset that has to change, we're so used to watching them not been given for years that we just scream 'too harsh'. The new rules make it easier for decisions to be consistent, and generally they have been, but there'll always be errors.

The Dier one was definitely an error. A poor decision. Made all the more massive by the timing. Hopefully the premier league will admit the mistake and note the difference between it and the others.

I disagree.

This whole "unnaturally bigger" thing is bullshit.

How can moving one's arms and hands, unconsciously, as part of moving and twisting your body be considered to be making your body unnaturally bigger? If you jump, your arms go up. If you slide in, your arms go out and back. It's all part of the body's balancing system.

These rules are unrealistic and uninformed.

[johnnycool]

As someone who follows Everton, the penalty they got vrs Palace really shouldn't have been given, just like the one Newcastle got yesterday.

I get what they're trying to do in preventing what I'd have called the John Terry Gaelic football block, but holy lord Dyer had his back to it when the ball came off his arm.

Madness.

[Hound]

10 premier league players test positive in latest round of testing.

Hope it's not the start of a wave. Be interesting to see what the PL r number will be from this 10.

[Farrandeelin]

So off we go again
Who will win it and who is going down.
Will COVID wreck the fixtures this side of Christmas or should it be played at all.

Interesting times

Liverpool will win it. Don't know who'll go down.

First one to say Liverpool will win it. It's over now. Lock the thread until next July or August.