Preston v Scunthorpe
Port Vale/Chasetown v Cardiff
Colchester v Peterborough
Bolton v Sheffield United
Blackburn v Coventry
Brighton v Mansfield
Northampton/Walsall v Millwall
Charlton v West Brom
Watford v Crystal Palaec
Luton/Nottingham Forestv Liverpool
Plymouth v Hull
Aston Villa v Manchester United
Tranmere v Hereford
Tottenham v Reading
Burnley v Arsenal
Bristol City v Middlesbrough
Fulhamv Bristol Rovers
Huddersfield v Birmingham
Horsham/Swansea v Havant & Waterlooville
Sunderland v Wigan
Oxford/Southend v Dagenham & Redbridge
Everton v Oldham
Derby v Sheffield Wednesday
Southampton v Leicester
West Ham v Manchester City
Ipswich v Portsmouth
Wolves v Cambridge
Barnsley v Blackpool
Chelsea v QPR
Stoke v Newcastle
Swindon v Burton Albion/Barnet
Norwich v Bury
A bit if deja vu about this one. Didn't United get Villa away and Liverpool get Luton away in the third round last year or the year before?
last years draw
Blackpool v Aldershot/Basingstoke
Barnet v Colchester
Sheff Utd v Swansea
Reading v Burnley
Portsmouth v Wigan
Mansfield/Doncaster v Bolton
West Ham v Brighton
Leicester v Fulham
Derby v Wrexham
Wolves v Oldham
Bury/Chester v Ipswich
Man Utd v Aston Villa
Sheff Wed v Man City
Tamworth v Norwich
Salisbury/Nottm For v Charlton
Cardiff v Tottenham
Preston v Sunderland
Liverpool v Arsenal
Bristol Rovers/Bournemouth v Hereford
Watford v Stockport
Crystal Palace v Swindon
Bristol City v Coventry
Peterborough v Plymouth
QPR v Luton
Southend v Barnsley
West Brom v Leeds
Hull v Middlesbrough
Birmingham v Newcastle
Torquay/Leyton Orient v Southampton
Everton v Blackburn
Chelsea v Macclesfield
Stoke v Bradford/Millwall
Liverpool got Luton the year previous, a 5-3 game i think, did Alonso score from inside his own half?
Great draw for Chelsea. A home tie, against our local rivals. Should be pretty spicey!
man city away to the hammers.....tasty match
Why are the televised fa cup games so dull? Hardly any goals or action in them. I get the impression that both teams aren't really interested in Villa v Middlesboro
Deflected goal following a coner at least there won't be a replay.
Might be teams making too many changes leading to poor spectacle. Not sure Villa despite the good form have been entertaining this season.
Quote from: GTP on January 06, 2024, 07:17:22 PMDeflected goal following a coner at least there won't be a replay.
Might be teams making too many changes leading to poor spectacle. Not sure Villa despite the good form have been entertaining this season.
Certainly struggle against teams who sit back. But only City have scored more goals than them in the PL this season.
It lost it's magic since Manchester United felt they were too good to compete in it.
Quote from: jcpen on January 06, 2024, 08:02:54 PMIt lost it's magic since Manchester United felt they were too good to compete in it.
It lost its magic when clubs realised it was more profitable to stay in the premier league, rather than win a trophy.
Look at the teams who go to the latter stages this last number of years. They are teams that have big squads and can afford to play second strings and still progress: Chelsea arsenal Liverpool man city etc Those teams in lower half of the PL, the likes of Everton Forest, Burnley, Fulham , Palace etc are more concerned with staying up.
Last I heard teams got 200m or so for being in PL, and 10-15 for winning FA cup. You do the maths.
Quote from: jcpen on January 06, 2024, 08:02:54 PMIt lost it's magic since Manchester United felt they were too good to compete in it.
That was the beginning of the end. Still don't get why they couldn't have entered the youth team for the time the first team was away.
You get less than 2m for winning it. Thats the real problem.
Money talks...... bullshit walks
From what I saw, most of the prem league teams played strong teams, not 100% strong but 80%+, which I think is thanks to the kinda mid season break. But against perceived weaker opposition effort levels drop a percentage or two, which has led to reasonably drab games. I think there'll be some decent games on Sun/mon.
Quote from: trailer on January 06, 2024, 09:37:24 PMYou get less than 2m for winning it. Thats the real problem.
Money talks...... bullshit walks
Well, there ye go. Lower than I thought
2 million v 200 million. That's why the FA cup has been devalued
Quote from: clarshack on January 06, 2024, 09:18:34 PMQuote from: jcpen on January 06, 2024, 08:02:54 PMIt lost it's magic since Manchester United felt they were too good to compete in it.
That was the beginning of the end. Still don't get why they couldn't have entered the youth team for the time the first team was away.
Liverpool entered a junior team, think someone beat them 5 something? But yeah it lost it's nostalgia because off Utd ;D
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 06, 2024, 10:29:53 PMQuote from: clarshack on January 06, 2024, 09:18:34 PMQuote from: jcpen on January 06, 2024, 08:02:54 PMIt lost it's magic since Manchester United felt they were too good to compete in it.
That was the beginning of the end. Still don't get why they couldn't have entered the youth team for the time the first team was away.
Liverpool entered a junior team, think someone beat them 5 something? But yeah it lost it's nostalgia because off Utd ;D
it was Aston Villa in the league cup.
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 06, 2024, 10:29:53 PMQuote from: clarshack on January 06, 2024, 09:18:34 PMQuote from: jcpen on January 06, 2024, 08:02:54 PMIt lost it's magic since Manchester United felt they were too good to compete in it.
That was the beginning of the end. Still don't get why they couldn't have entered the youth team for the time the first team was away.
Liverpool entered a junior team, think someone beat them 5 something? But yeah it lost it's nostalgia because off Utd ;D
You might have had a point only for the fact it was a completely different competition...
Just the two bites...
Where's Turf and Laois lad these days? ::)
Yeah of course you were fishing for bites, that's always a good one to use when you know you got something completely wrong.
In the England of the 1980s there were 2 competitions run by 2 organisations. The Football League ran the First to Fourth divisions and the Football Association ran the FA Cup. In the early 90s the biggest clubs abandoned the Football League and joined forces with the FA and Sky to launch the Premier League. One of the results of this was the downgrading of the FA Cup.
Money talks. The FA Cup winner gets a couple of million. Champions League qualification is six times that.
And so it goes with the money in the Premier League. So managers are saving their best for the next league match. Which is a shame because the fans love a cup final and that's where you generate your next generation of fans.
Big banana skin tonight but...
Think there's plenty goals.. 2-3 Utd
For the craic
Spurs v City and Chelsea v Villa the two stand out ties for the next round.
United got another easy ride in the next round against Newport or Eastleigh away.
Quote from: Capt Pat on January 08, 2024, 08:18:43 PMUnited got another easy ride in the next round against Newport or Eastleigh away.
They haven't beat Wigan yet
Utd should be 4 up
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 08, 2024, 08:51:57 PMUtd should be 4 up
Very wasteful with some big goal scoring chances.
The Wigan keeper has a sister called Tess. It's true I tell ya.
Fair dues to Wigan - a 3rd tier club mixing it with Utd.
Bruno - that was embarrassing.......
FA Cup fourth-round draw
Watford v Southampton
Blackburn Rovers v Wrexham
Bournemouth v Swansea City
West Brom v Brentford or Wolves
West Ham or Bristol City v Nottingham Forest or Blackpool
Leicester City v Hull City or Birmingham City
Sheffield Wednesday v Coventry City
Chelsea v Aston Villa
Ipswich Town v Maidstone United
Liverpool v Norwich City or Bristol Rovers
Tottenham Hotspur v Manchester City
Leeds United v Plymouth Argyle
Crystal Palace or Everton v Luton Town or Bolton Wanderers
Newport County or Eastleigh v Wigan Athletic or Manchester United
Sheffield United v Brighton & Hove Albion
Fulham v Newcastle United
Quote from: From the Bunker on January 08, 2024, 09:47:13 PMBruno - that was embarrassing.......
Was there contact?
It's embarrassing how these penalties are given but contact and falling over results in penalty
Think there was a soft contact the other week, wasn't met with embarrassment
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 08, 2024, 10:05:07 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on January 08, 2024, 09:47:13 PMBruno - that was embarrassing.......
Was there contact?
It's embarrassing how these penalties are given but contact and falling over results in penalty
Think there was a soft contact the other week, wasn't met with embarrassment
;D
Quote from: From the Bunker on January 08, 2024, 10:08:45 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on January 08, 2024, 10:05:07 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on January 08, 2024, 09:47:13 PMBruno - that was embarrassing.......
Was there contact?
It's embarrassing how these penalties are given but contact and falling over results in penalty
Think there was a soft contact the other week, wasn't met with embarrassment
;D
Must be a Portuguese thing
Quote from: From the Bunker on January 08, 2024, 09:47:13 PMBruno - that was embarrassing.......
Vile is the only word to describe it ::) ;)
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 08, 2024, 10:12:14 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on January 08, 2024, 10:08:45 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on January 08, 2024, 10:05:07 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on January 08, 2024, 09:47:13 PMBruno - that was embarrassing.......
Was there contact?
It's embarrassing how these penalties are given but contact and falling over results in penalty
Think there was a soft contact the other week, wasn't met with embarrassment
;D
Must be a Portuguese thing
Boys in Green and Red, never trust them...... ;)
Quote from: dec on January 08, 2024, 09:56:16 PMFA Cup fourth-round draw
Watford v Southampton
Blackburn Rovers v Wrexham
Bournemouth v Swansea City
West Brom v Brentford or Wolves
West Ham or Bristol City v Nottingham Forest or Blackpool
Leicester City v Hull City or Birmingham City
Sheffield Wednesday v Coventry City
Chelsea v Aston Villa
Ipswich Town v Maidstone United
Liverpool v Norwich City or Bristol Rovers
Tottenham Hotspur v Manchester City
Leeds United v Plymouth Argyle
Crystal Palace or Everton v Luton Town or Bolton Wanderers
Newport County or Eastleigh v Wigan Athletic or Manchester United
Sheffield United v Brighton & Hove Albion
Fulham v Newcastle United
Leeds had been drawn away from home 13 times in a row prior to that draw.
Quote from: gawa316 on January 08, 2024, 10:13:20 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on January 08, 2024, 09:47:13 PMBruno - that was embarrassing.......
Vile is the only word to describe it ::) ;)
Only reason he did it was cause he saw the Liverpool one given...
Maidstone beat Ipswich 2-1. I think they had 2 shots all game and they were both goals.
Another season without a trophy for Everton. 1995 was a long time ago.
Haaland has found his goal scoring form in time for the Manchester Derby.
Watching Blackburn v Newcastle no goals so far but the home side with the best chances and you wouldn't think they are 16th in the championship.
Gone to penalties good old fashioned cup tie.
Klopp's Kids winning again.
Liverpool United should be on paddys day with liverpool scheduled play in Europe on Thursday evening.
Yawn!
Man City into the semi finals yet again , and on course for another treble.
Is it just me or is City's continued dominance really boring?
Was it as boring for non-United fans when United were dominating in the 90's and 00's? I can't imagine it was
Quote from: AustinPowers on March 16, 2024, 07:44:33 PMYawn!
Man City into the semi finals yet again , and on course for another treble.
Is it just me or is City's continued dominance really boring?
Was it as boring for non-United fans when United were dominating in the 90's and 00's? I can't imagine it was
The media are in switch off in regard to talking about a Treble. Any other club at it would be the talk. There is no drama, no adversity, no story with Man City. They're just a product of Sports washing.
If Liverpool did not win the League in 19/20, City would be going for 7 in a row titles this year.
United won Premier League in (1996/97) with 75 points - Newcastle Arsenal and Liverpool were joint 2nd with 68 points.
Coventry City stunned Wolves to reach the FA Cup semi-finals for only the second time in their history thanks to two stoppage-time goals at Molineux.
Quote from: AustinPowers on March 16, 2024, 07:44:33 PMYawn!
Man City into the semi finals yet again , and on course for another treble.
Is it just me or is City's continued dominance really boring?
Was it as boring for non-United fans when United were dominating in the 90's and 00's? I can't imagine it was
Liverpool are still in contention for the fa cup. City have real madrid in the quarter finals of the champions league.
Arsenal and Liverpool are ahead of city in the league.
It is anything but inevitable. If City pull off a treble from here it will be some achievement.
Quote from: Capt Pat on March 16, 2024, 10:25:55 PMQuote from: AustinPowers on March 16, 2024, 07:44:33 PMYawn!
Man City into the semi finals yet again , and on course for another treble.
Is it just me or is City's continued dominance really boring?
Was it as boring for non-United fans when United were dominating in the 90's and 00's? I can't imagine it was
Liverpool are still in contention for the fa cup. City have real madrid in the quarter finals of the fa cup.
Arsenal and Liverpool are ahead of city in the league.
It is anything but inevitable. If City pull off a treble from here it will be some achievement.
What are they doing in the FA cup? ;)
Yes Arsenal and Liverpool are still there , but city won't be far away on all three competitions. I just find it all very boring, and I find it very difficult even to watch city play (even the highlights)
Quote from: Capt Pat on March 16, 2024, 10:25:55 PMQuote from: AustinPowers on March 16, 2024, 07:44:33 PMYawn!
Man City into the semi finals yet again , and on course for another treble.
Is it just me or is City's continued dominance really boring?
Was it as boring for non-United fans when United were dominating in the 90's and 00's? I can't imagine it was
Liverpool are still in contention for the fa cup. City have real madrid in the quarter finals of the fa cup.
Arsenal and Liverpool are ahead of city in the league.
It is anything but inevitable. If City pull off a treble from here it will be some achievement.
If City beat Real Madrid in the FA Cup, it'll be an achievement unmatched anywhere in world sport
In all seriousness, City will win at least 2 of those trophies #115
Expect Madrid to beat City in Europe tbh. They'll win the league imo but Liverpool possibly beat them in FA Cup.
Man United absolutely blessed there.
Feel sorry for Coventry, hopefully they can win the penos.
VAR is a useless piece of shit.
Tough on Coventry that.
Utd will get humped in the final so just another stay of execution
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 21, 2024, 06:28:16 PMUtd will get humped in the final so just another stay of execution
It's a bit like the meeting Dublin in the Leinster Final. It's nice to get there, but once your there you realise it's not the 90's anymore.
That's a couple or more times ETH has taken off his better players thinking the games won!
He might not make the final
Man Uniteds FA Cup to lose now surely after beating Liverpool with a last minute winner and now surviving a comeback from Championship side Coventry.
Name on the trophy type of stuff..
Quote from: jcpen on April 21, 2024, 06:43:34 PMMan Uniteds FA Cup to lose now surely after beating Liverpool with a last minute winner and now surviving a comeback from Championship side Coventry.
Name on the trophy type of stuff..
Aye, that's how it works ;D
United only lost by 2-1 in last years final. It's a one off game and maybe some of their players who have been jogging around the pitch for the last 9 months might decide to put in a shift. It is the chance to win a FA Cup winners medal after all. There is still some value to it.
The bad news for Utd is City are out of the Champions League. Those 3 games of distraction would have been a help.
It didn't annoy City last year having extra games
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 21, 2024, 06:57:18 PMIt didn't annoy City last year having extra games
Ah, but last year they were fresher after as they had not won the treble the year before.
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 21, 2024, 06:53:41 PMQuote from: jcpen on April 21, 2024, 06:43:34 PMMan Uniteds FA Cup to lose now surely after beating Liverpool with a last minute winner and now surviving a comeback from Championship side Coventry.
Name on the trophy type of stuff..
Aye, that's how it works ;D
Glad you agree with me 👍
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 21, 2024, 06:28:16 PMUtd will get humped in the final so just another stay of execution
Yep. I was hoping Coventry would win because that team haven't a hope of beating City.
Quote from: AustinPowers on April 21, 2024, 07:16:03 PMQuote from: Milltown Row2 on April 21, 2024, 06:28:16 PMUtd will get humped in the final so just another stay of execution
Yep. I was hoping Coventry would win because that team haven't a hope of beating City.
Not just no hope but could be facing record FA Cup final defeat. Didn't City beat Watford 6-0 recently in a FA Cup final?
There is no stay of execution for ten hag. He will be gone after thr cup final like LVG. Even if utd do win it. Ratcliffe expression at 3-2 said it all. How bad are Liverpool, played that united team 3 times this season and couldn't beat them.
Quote from: snoopdog on April 21, 2024, 07:54:57 PMThere is no stay of execution for ten hag. He will be gone after thr cup final like LVG. Even if utd do win it. Ratcliffe expression at 3-2 said it all. How bad are Liverpool, played that united team 3 times this season and couldn't beat them.
They are obviously living rent free in your head ;D
Quote from: From the Bunker on April 21, 2024, 06:56:18 PMUnited only lost by 2-1 in last years final. It's a one off game and maybe some of their players who have been jogging around the pitch for the last 9 months might decide to put in a shift. It is the chance to win a FA Cup winners medal after all. There is still some value to it.
The bad news for Utd is City are out of the Champions League. Those 3 games of distraction would have been a help.
There is value as winning the FA Cup will likely be needed to reach the Europa league instead of the conference league.
Last year was a United team that finished 3rd in the Premier League with a lot less injuries and had already won a cup final.
Going into this upcoming final with a back line like today with Maguire, Casemiro at centre back and no natural left back then City will score for fun.
As for today no other top eight team in the Premier League would be 3-0 up against Coventry with 70 minutes played and then need a shoot out to progress that's as much on that group of players than anything else.
Quote from: Cunny Funt on April 21, 2024, 10:14:38 PMQuote from: From the Bunker on April 21, 2024, 06:56:18 PMUnited only lost by 2-1 in last years final. It's a one off game and maybe some of their players who have been jogging around the pitch for the last 9 months might decide to put in a shift. It is the chance to win a FA Cup winners medal after all. There is still some value to it.
The bad news for Utd is City are out of the Champions League. Those 3 games of distraction would have been a help.
There is value as winning the FA Cup will likely be needed to reach the Europa league instead of the conference league.
Last year was a United team that finished 3rd in the Premier League with a lot less injuries and had already won a cup final.
Going into this upcoming final with a back line like today with Maguire, Casemiro at centre back and no natural left back then City will score for fun.
As for today no other top eight team in the Premier League would be 3-0 up against Coventry with 70 minutes played and then need a shoot out to progress that's as much on that group of players than anything else.
Today's collapse is on thr manager.
He isn't up to the task. Same man lost a CL SF at Ajax being 3 up against Spurs. That should've been enough to steer clear. If by chance utd win the cup ten hag will still be gone.
Ah look you can blame Ten Hag for a lot of things but conceding 3 in 20 mins to a championship team is on the men on the field.