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#16
General discussion / Re: East wall #Irelandisfull
January 29, 2024, 06:34:47 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on January 27, 2024, 10:51:49 PM
Quote from: tonto1888 on January 27, 2024, 10:50:00 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on January 27, 2024, 10:40:33 PM
Quote from: tonto1888 on January 27, 2024, 09:07:49 PMEU people do have to explain themselves when they come here.
I'm telling you 70 million people don't want to come to this island

I was referring to the 26 counties, EU citizens have a right to travel throughout the EU and are not asked questions.

Are you contending that there are not 70million people (or a lot more) who would prefer to live in Ireland than in their own country. So they would come here if they could and if other places did not welcome them.

You were talking about this island.
And let's talk about this island. How many people actually leave here to go and better their lives? It's ok for them to do it but if someone else dreams about doing it it's a bad thing?

I was talking about this island, but I was not trying to justify Brexiteer policies.
I didn't say that it was a bad thing for these people, I said it was a bad thing for us.

How is it a bad thing? We need more people of working age, which immigrants tend to be.
#17
General discussion / Re: East wall #Irelandisfull
January 29, 2024, 06:33:02 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on January 27, 2024, 03:29:57 PM
Quote from: tonto1888 on January 27, 2024, 12:18:32 PM
Quote from: whitey on January 26, 2024, 10:17:06 PM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on January 26, 2024, 08:51:21 PM
Quote from: burdizzo on January 26, 2024, 08:48:09 PMOnly, or mainly, in Western Europe are countries having serious problems with immigration. I merely want us to protect ourselves for future generations.

However, thanks for the holier-than-thou lecture.

Look, it's pretty obvious neither of us is going to persuade the other, and while I know arguing with strangers on the internet is basically pointless, sometimes it can be stimulating. This, though, isn't -  so I'm off to scrub the dishes!

Like what? Upsetting racist patients who want to be treated by one of their own?

Or upsetting racist patients who don't want a fella jerking off at the foot of their hospital bed when theyre recovering from an operation might be a start

A fella with 8 priors BTW

https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/serial-flasher-jailed-after-performing-sexual-act-in-front-of-woman-in-hospital-as-she-recovered-from-surgery/a2146621981.html

Are you gonna comment on the fella with over 30 priors who was free to murder a young lad in lurgan? Or does thefact he was a local make it ok? Or maybe it's because his victim was from the north?
Saying as this thread is about immigrants then it's not really relevant is it.

It kind of is relevant if you're trying to make the claim that immigrants are inherently more dangerous than locals.
#18
General discussion / Re: East wall #Irelandisfull
January 29, 2024, 06:31:38 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on January 27, 2024, 03:11:11 PMOh I think 70 million might well want to come here, but we do not allow them, and most do not make up stories to try and come here. Which is not the same thing.

What's your source for this? A random number generator?
#19
General discussion / Re: East wall #Irelandisfull
January 29, 2024, 06:30:37 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on January 27, 2024, 02:12:10 PM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on January 27, 2024, 10:11:50 AMSo from this, it's that vetting hasn't been done enough on the immigrants is the issue? Not the numbers themselves? Or are we just going down a rabbit hole with the focus on these few immigrants who have broken the law? Just genuinely interested as it's two very different discussions.

There are 7 billion people who might want to come and all of these will not fit on this island, but the open door crowd refuse to countenance a limit of any sort or to that the present arrangements encourage chancers.

Genuine question. What do you think the population of the world is?
#20
General discussion / Re: Cruel and Unusual.
January 29, 2024, 05:28:54 AM
Quote from: AustinPowers on January 28, 2024, 08:20:34 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on January 27, 2024, 03:18:58 PMYanks again showing what an uncivilised shower of sick cnuts they are.

It's funny but in recent years,  Olympic and World Cup host countries (Russia,  Qatar, Saudi Arabia etc) have been  criticised for their attitude/laws/death penalties  towards  gays, women etc.  Yet the US has hosted numerous events and not a word about attitudes to same, and their  death penalty.

Remember seeing a  documentary  a while ago , and it basically looks  like  the US prison system is a  cheap labour camp for big business.  People thrown in jail for  having a break light  out or  a baldy tyre. Big businesses have a contract with the prisons so  they basically  are paying little to nothing  for labour

John Oliver on the business model of prison labour.
#21
General discussion / Re: Cruel and Unusual.
January 29, 2024, 05:27:18 AM
Quote from: nrico2006 on January 27, 2024, 11:38:04 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on January 27, 2024, 07:17:46 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on January 27, 2024, 06:53:58 PMI'd rather be in jail for life than dead.
In Maghaberry maybe, but death probably a better alternative than a lot of places in the US.

True. Prison should be hard and punishing every minute of every day. Basic food provision, no menus or choice etc. and hard labour daily. No Internet, TV in a cell, computer games or degree courses.

Why? You want them to re-offend when they come out? Kinda makes me wonder what the purpose of prison is. Why anyone would want criminals to be even more dangerous on release is beyond me.
#22
General discussion / Re: East wall #Irelandisfull
January 26, 2024, 10:46:32 PM
This is like the people on Twitter who sit around all day selectively posting stories about crimes that happen to be committed by dark-skinned people. I'll bet they think they're onto something. Utterly pathetic.
#23
General discussion / Re: East wall #Irelandisfull
January 26, 2024, 10:15:00 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on January 26, 2024, 09:35:28 PM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on January 26, 2024, 08:56:13 PMFriendly reminder that there's over 40 million people worldwide who can claim Irish ancestry.  We have an entire genre of sentimental ballad songs lamenting emigration and we refer to the "exiles" all the time. The sight of Irish people giving out about migration is just priceless.

The people in Ireland did not migrate, it is those 40 million who should look after migrants.

A million left Ireland during the famine, and the Irish kept migrating right up to the present day. It's a good bet that half the "send them back" crowd has relatives living abroad.
#24
General discussion / Re: East wall #Irelandisfull
January 26, 2024, 08:56:13 PM
Friendly reminder that there's over 40 million people worldwide who can claim Irish ancestry.  We have an entire genre of sentimental ballad songs lamenting emigration and we refer to the "exiles" all the time. The sight of Irish people giving out about migration is just priceless.
#25
General discussion / Re: East wall #Irelandisfull
January 26, 2024, 08:51:21 PM
Quote from: burdizzo on January 26, 2024, 08:48:09 PMOnly, or mainly, in Western Europe are countries having serious problems with immigration. I merely want us to protect ourselves for future generations.

However, thanks for the holier-than-thou lecture.

Look, it's pretty obvious neither of us is going to persuade the other, and while I know arguing with strangers on the internet is basically pointless, sometimes it can be stimulating. This, though, isn't -  so I'm off to scrub the dishes!

Like what? Upsetting racist patients who want to be treated by one of their own?
#26
General discussion / Re: East wall #Irelandisfull
January 26, 2024, 08:49:59 PM
Quote from: burdizzo on January 26, 2024, 07:47:09 PMYes, I see - getting away from the point again. What a surprise.

The point is you can either tar an entire group of people with the same brush or you can't. In the case of priests it was a case of an institutional failure, but "immigrants" are not an organisation. They're a type of person with one thing in common - the fact that they came from somewhere else. The fact that some of them are abusers does not mean that they all are, despite your implication that they are. Sexual abuse is a law enforcement problem and a social problem, not an immigration problem. Unless you think Jimmy Saville and the Christian Brothers were all immigrants.
#27
General discussion / Re: East wall #Irelandisfull
January 26, 2024, 07:11:34 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 26, 2024, 07:09:55 PM
Quote from: burdizzo on January 26, 2024, 06:39:40 PM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on January 26, 2024, 06:28:25 PM
Quote from: burdizzo on January 26, 2024, 06:25:09 PM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on January 26, 2024, 05:08:09 PM
Quote from: burdizzo on January 25, 2024, 11:24:24 PM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on January 25, 2024, 11:01:23 PMCongratulations. You're able to pull up individual cases of crimes committed by immigrants. Would you like me to start pulling up cases of locals committing crime as if that's some sort of "gotcha" moment?

If you're talking about the grooming gangs in northern England as 'individual cases', then you really need to look a bit more deeply at what went on.

What grooming gang would that be? Jimmy Saville and his mates like Gary Glitter?

But those cases are very well known. The Asian grooming gangs and the "hands-off" approach taken by authorities seems to be lesser so - at least, judging by your apparent ignorance.

Yeah, it would have been awful if the authorities had taken a "hands off" approach to Saville.

Both cases highlight how the established organs of the media cannot be trusted!

The Garda and government were good at turning a blind eye on the clergy, I suppose they've form

Ah here. That was just a few bad apples. Can't have all priests and brothers tarred with the same brush. Immigrants on the other hand...

~sarc
#28
General discussion / Re: East wall #Irelandisfull
January 26, 2024, 06:28:25 PM
Quote from: burdizzo on January 26, 2024, 06:25:09 PM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on January 26, 2024, 05:08:09 PM
Quote from: burdizzo on January 25, 2024, 11:24:24 PM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on January 25, 2024, 11:01:23 PMCongratulations. You're able to pull up individual cases of crimes committed by immigrants. Would you like me to start pulling up cases of locals committing crime as if that's some sort of "gotcha" moment?

If you're talking about the grooming gangs in northern England as 'individual cases', then you really need to look a bit more deeply at what went on.

What grooming gang would that be? Jimmy Saville and his mates like Gary Glitter?

But those cases are very well known. The Asian grooming gangs and the "hands-off" approach taken by authorities seems to be lesser so - at least, judging by your apparent ignorance.

Yeah, it would have been awful if the authorities had taken a "hands off" approach to Saville.
#29
General discussion / Re: East wall #Irelandisfull
January 26, 2024, 05:08:09 PM
Quote from: burdizzo on January 25, 2024, 11:24:24 PM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on January 25, 2024, 11:01:23 PMCongratulations. You're able to pull up individual cases of crimes committed by immigrants. Would you like me to start pulling up cases of locals committing crime as if that's some sort of "gotcha" moment?

If you're talking about the grooming gangs in northern England as 'individual cases', then you really need to look a bit more deeply at what went on.

What grooming gang would that be? Jimmy Saville and his mates like Gary Glitter?
#30
General discussion / Re: East wall #Irelandisfull
January 26, 2024, 05:07:22 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on January 26, 2024, 09:44:06 AMThe Whiteys of the World only see black skin or Muslim sounding names to get outraged.
They dont notice or feel the need to  comment on crimes by people who look like themselves or have "white" sounding names.

Absolute racists.
 

Indeed. Where was his outrage when The General was terrorising Dublin? Sure he was "one of ours" so he must have been all right.