26 County General Election 2020

[Angelo]

Whataboutry.

That's usually how hypocrites try and spin balance

[Angelo]

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-43144010

FG sit on report and refuse to release it which could secure a conviction on a British soldier who shot dead an unarmed man in the back.

Why are FG helping facilitate crimes by the British military on this Ireland?

[Itchy]

Speaking of Quinns, another forgotten horrific crime...

Remembering the 3 young Quinn brothers who were burned to death on this day 1998 because they were Catholics. Richard 11, Mark 9 and Jason 7. RIP

https://twitter.com/IrishUnity/status/1282249503890972673?s=19

[Rossfan]

Awful event.
All because a crowd of bigots weren't getting their way.

[Snapchap]

It was a cynical attempt to influence the election. They might as well have dragged up Haugheys gun running. The point is, you have to admit this was a cynical media attempt to influence the election result

Here you clearly state that the media was using Paul Quinn's murder to influence the election. That is straight out the provo playbook. The establishment are against us!
Paul Quinn was murdered by the IRA and Conor Murphy said it was criminality and criminals who fell out, when it wasn't. The Quinn's have consistently fought for justice, similar to the McCartney sisters and the whispering campaign, intimidation and lies that have been spread about both families is absolutely disgraceful.
SF have their own set of rules that they play by.

I think you're wanted over on the SDLP thread Trailer

What did he say that was wrong out of interest?

He said the media weren't using the Quinn family to influence the election. If he really believes that (and I don't think anyone could believe he really does), then he is bryond naive and has no credibility talking about politics whatsoever.

Not sure what way he would explain the complete disinterest the media have had in the Quinns since the election ended. Or indeed before the election.

He also takes issue with Conor Murphy saying the murder was part of a crininal feud. The media hounded Murphy through the election for an apology. Yet, the British Government itself said in their IMF report that their intelligence suggested it was a criminal feud. No campaign for them to apologise though.

https://www.rte.ie/news/investigations-unit/2017/1123/922337-rte-investigates-wall-of-silence/

A 2 second check on Google disapproves your absolute disgraceful comment.

Murphy knows who killed him, criminals within the IRA

Disgraceful comment? Away an cop yourself on.

Why is it "a disgraceful comment" to simply state the fact that the British government's own IMC report said the murder was related to criminality?

It's exact wording was:

"The killing was clearly contrary to the instructions and strategy of the leadership of PIRA. It was also contrary to the interests of PIRA and to those of Sinn Féin. We are aware of no evidence linking the leadership of PIRA to the incident...We think that the attack on Paul Quinn was planned and carried out by local people and that it arose from local disputes. Whatever the immediate reason for the killing certain aspects of these disputes go back some time and were not unconnected with continuing illegal activity...The fact that some local members or former members or associates of the organization were involved in the incident does not in our view justify attributing it to the IRA".

[Angelo]

Nobody wants to comment on the free state government obstructing the McAnespie family and their attempt to get justice?

The free state government have been consistently soft on British state sponsored terrorism on this island yet get indignant about those who were the victims of that state terrorism fighting back.

[Boycey]

You don't really want comment you just want a platform to rant.   

[marty34]

Nobody wants to comment on the free state government obstructing the McAnespie family and their attempt to get justice?

The free state government have been consistently soft on British state sponsored terrorism on this island yet get indignant about those who were the victims of that state terrorism fighting back.

Charlie and the lads were more interested in celebrating the Black and Tans.

[Angelo]

You don't really want comment you just want a platform to rant.

I think it's very pertinent when people are screaming blue murder over SF and Pual Quinn when successive free state governments have actively tried to suppress justice for victims of British state terrorism on this island.

[Fear Bun Na Sceilpe]

It was a cynical attempt to influence the election. They might as well have dragged up Haugheys gun running. The point is, you have to admit this was a cynical media attempt to influence the election result

Here you clearly state that the media was using Paul Quinn's murder to influence the election. That is straight out the provo playbook. The establishment are against us!
Paul Quinn was murdered by the IRA and Conor Murphy said it was criminality and criminals who fell out, when it wasn't. The Quinn's have consistently fought for justice, similar to the McCartney sisters and the whispering campaign, intimidation and lies that have been spread about both families is absolutely disgraceful.
SF have their own set of rules that they play by.

I think you're wanted over on the SDLP thread Trailer

What did he say that was wrong out of interest?

He said the media weren't using the Quinn family to influence the election. If he really believes that (and I don't think anyone could believe he really does), then he is bryond naive and has no credibility talking about politics whatsoever.

Not sure what way he would explain the complete disinterest the media have had in the Quinns since the election ended. Or indeed before the election.

He also takes issue with Conor Murphy saying the murder was part of a crininal feud. The media hounded Murphy through the election for an apology. Yet, the British Government itself said in their IMF report that their intelligence suggested it was a criminal feud. No campaign for them to apologise though.

https://www.rte.ie/news/investigations-unit/2017/1123/922337-rte-investigates-wall-of-silence/

A 2 second check on Google disapproves your absolute disgraceful comment.

Murphy knows who killed him, criminals within the IRA

Disgraceful comment? Away an cop yourself on.

Why is it "a disgraceful comment" to simply state the fact that the British government's own IMC report said the murder was related to criminality?

It's exact wording was:

"The killing was clearly contrary to the instructions and strategy of the leadership of PIRA. It was also contrary to the interests of PIRA and to those of Sinn Féin. We are aware of no evidence linking the leadership of PIRA to the incident...We think that the attack on Paul Quinn was planned and carried out by local people and that it arose from local disputes. Whatever the immediate reason for the killing certain aspects of these disputes go back some time and were not unconnected with continuing illegal activity...The fact that some local members or former members or associates of the organization were involved in the incident does not in our view justify attributing it to the IRA".

Both of us could go on here all night searching internet for evidence of this and that. At end of the day, the Quinn's have never been far from the news at anytime , ok more so during an election, but why would that be wrong? The Quinn's know the IRA and and people well known to Murphy killed their son. Everybody deep down believes that.The Quinn family welcomed the extra interest in the story and it's perfectly normal in a normal society for media to challenge anyone in politics who has links to criminal gangs.

All this stuff about the southern media just seems like veiled support for the killers or their protectors

[Fear Bun Na Sceilpe]

You don't really want comment you just want a platform to rant.

I think it's very pertinent when people are screaming blue murder over SF and Pual Quinn when successive free state governments have actively tried to suppress justice for victims of British state terrorism on this island.

Your head is fried sur

[Angelo]

You don't really want comment you just want a platform to rant.

I think it's very pertinent when people are screaming blue murder over SF and Pual Quinn when successive free state governments have actively tried to suppress justice for victims of British state terrorism on this island.

Your head is fried sur

Do you not think there is something utterly wrong with a government minister actively obstructing a family's quest for justice of an unarmed man who was shot in the back and killed by an occupying soldier?

The bottom line is the Free State establishment could not give a single toss about an innocent nationalist who lost their lives at the hands of the Brits or Loyalists.

[Fear Bun Na Sceilpe]

You don't really want comment you just want a platform to rant.

I think it's very pertinent when people are screaming blue murder over SF and Pual Quinn when successive free state governments have actively tried to suppress justice for victims of British state terrorism on this island.

Your head is fried sur

Do you not think there is something utterly wrong with a government minister actively obstructing a family's quest for justice of an unarmed man who was shot in the back and killed by an occupying soldier?

The bottom line is the Free State establishment could not give a single toss about an innocent nationalist who lost their lives at the hands of the Brits or Loyalists.

Absolutely not. But I can't see link with the IRA murder of Paul Quinn

[Main Street]

You don't really want comment you just want a platform to rant.

I think it's very pertinent when people are screaming blue murder over SF and Pual Quinn when successive free state governments have actively tried to suppress justice for victims of British state terrorism on this island.

Your head is fried sur

Do you not think there is something utterly wrong with a government minister actively obstructing a family's quest for justice of an unarmed man who was shot in the back and killed by an occupying soldier?

The bottom line is the Free State establishment could not give a single toss about an innocent nationalist who lost their lives at the hands of the Brits or Loyalists.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-51031136
Former soldier to stand trial for shooting

Speaking afterwards, Aidan McAnespie's brother Vincent welcomed the decision.

"The family is very happy after such a long process of waiting to get to this stage that the judge has strongly come out firmly saying that yes - there is a case to be answered," he said.

[Fear Bun Na Sceilpe]

I'm assuming that his point is that it is as relevant to a 26 county election (if not more relevant) as Paul Quinn's murder is but that it doesn't receive anywhere near the same media coverage.

Much better put. But I'm not sure anyone standing in elections in 26 had any connection to the McAnespie murder, I think the comparison is very weak.