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GAA Discussion / Re: Munster Club Championships 2021
« on: January 21, 2022, 10:36:39 PM »
I think the Kerry system is fascinating and it's a wonder other counties don't adopt a more similar approach. I know clubs won't vote for their demotion either.

Also here in Mayo the league and championship are two separate entities.
Leagues and Championships have no link in vast majority of Counties.

Most such complaints tends to come from Ulster-based posters, where links between league placement & championship status are more ingrained in club competitions there, though it does vary by county with some having broken the league/championship link themselves - for example in Fermanagh the 2021 IFC champions Erne Gaels finished in 3rd place in the Division 1 league (behind both SFC finalists Derrygonnelly & Enniskillen Gales), but were soundly defeated by Tyrone's Moortown in the Ulster Quarter Final - had Moortown not won the Tyrone IFC there was no guarantee that they might not have been relegated into the Junior grade in Tyrone for this year!

GAA Discussion / Re: Munster Club Championships 2021
« on: January 20, 2022, 10:07:06 PM »
Too many folk fail to understand the Kerry football grading system properly IMO - the big one to win is the county football championship as opposed to the senior club football championship. The former includes senior clubs and divisional sides that are made up of players from intermediate, premier junior & junior clubs. The system has been in place for a long time in Kerry and seems to work well for them, so why should they voluntarily change it? I think only Cork follow a similar model (and AFAIK they don't have a separate "club only" senior championship).

Checking on the Kerry GAA website, if my sums are right there are 56 clubs that enter the club championships, but 58 clubs in the All-County league (?) with 78 teams in total. There are some clubs with two teams in the ACL with Dr. Croke's having three teams, but the majority of clubs appear to enter just one adult team so most of them are hardly behemoths.

General discussion / Re: Nature - nurture. Male attitudes towards women
« on: January 20, 2022, 09:55:44 PM »
The internet is controlled by plutocrats. When neoliberalism goes tits up money will be seen again all over the country and a lot of things will change. Google and FB will be broken up.
Neoliberalism is misogynistic and the next system won't be.
The history of Capital vs Labour is very interesting.

Pornography in one form or another (along with prostitution) has been around in almost all societies & economic systems since the dawn of time, though in many cases it existed somewhat underground with distribution done via various methods using the technology available - there were porn movies being filmed more than a century ago, for example. Same goes for the smuggling of goods to bypass local laws and/or taxes etc. As long as people in general are wanting to view sexy people do sexy things, then pornography will continue to exist. To think otherwise is either utterly naive or dogmatic.

General discussion / Re: Nature - nurture. Male attitudes towards women
« on: January 20, 2022, 07:47:34 PM »
I bet pornography will be banned again in future. Most of the main sites are owned by 1 billionaire, women actors are  routinely abused and the social costs are substantial.

Good luck with that. That cat left the bag a long time ago and it isn't going to be put back in with any success. Pre-internet, Irish & British governments were able to somewhat successfully regulate pornography through laws regarding hard publications like magazines as well as the legalities in rating videos, proscription orders against TV channels from continental Europe etc. but internet video since the 90's nowadays bypasses that easily.

General discussion / Re: Things that make you go What the F**k?
« on: January 20, 2022, 07:41:50 PM »
The fact that Anders Breivik is even being considered for parole 10yrs after killing 77 people.....some countries have v weird laws....

Think the maximum he can do is something like 21 years too, unless they passed some law to change that since he was caught.

IIRC the maximum sentence for murder in Norway is 21 years, but it can be indefinitely extended if officials feel that the murderer is still of significant threat to the public.

GAA Discussion / Re: Ulster JFC/IFC 2021.
« on: January 10, 2022, 03:12:43 PM »
Paging "Ball Hopper" and/or "AZOffally" to this thread please to help explain the intricacies of club football in Kerry...

General discussion / Re: The Official Tennis Thread
« on: January 07, 2022, 04:04:39 PM »
Said it before and I'll say it again - unless your a citizen of said nation or have something secure like permanent residence, you have no automatic right of entry to a foreign country. While in the vast majority of cases they'll be happy to let you though on the basis that you're not going to cause trouble for them (and heck, even be the ideal guest for them), if they refuse you in because you don't meet the conditions of entry then like it or not, that's tough. The Aussies have long had a reputation of being tough but fair when it comes to foreigners entering their country and what they bring with them, and by fair they mean that they treat everyone coming in equally of a said nationality - they don't give a damn how much of a celebrity (or claiming to be one) you are, Australia most certainly aren't the likes of Los Angeles (and the whole USA to a lesser extent) where they'll happily bend rules to accommodate anyone who's "famous" or is splashing around a bit of cash and blow smoke up their arses at the same time.

Secondly, and I'll mention it again, being granted entry into certain countries (or in some cases even just transiting) has over many decades had a requirement of having proof of vaccination against certain diseases - the most common one up until the current pandemic being that against Yellow Fever in some Sub-Saharan African countries. If you can't show your proof of vaccination against Yellow Fever, then you won't be let into the country. Simple. Used to be the case in the past for smallpox and polio too.

General discussion / Re: Nollaig Shona Duit!
« on: December 24, 2021, 11:07:00 PM »

"Hope everyone on Gaaboard land has a merry Christmas, happy Hanukkah, kwazy Kwanzaa, tip-top Tết, and a solemn and dignified Ramadan."

GAA Discussion / Re: Ulster Club SFC 2021
« on: December 22, 2021, 09:44:20 PM »
There is no council-owned GAA pitch in Trillick.  In fact, there is no council pitch of any kind in Trillick.  Never heard of one in Dromore either.

I was told that the GAA pitch next door to St. Scire's PS was council owned, maybe that's wrong?

I'm pretty certain though that the GAA pitch in Dromore at Crawfords Lane is council owned -,-7.4505447,3a,90y,310.77h,79.25t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s7yU4JgdrgZujFer8ippa1Q!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

Edit: Is the pitch I mentioned in Gortin now owned by the Gaelic Football club there now?

On the Fermanagh side there is a 3g pitch at the bawnacre in Irvinestown and there is a Gaa pitch at the forum in Enniskillen
Last time I checked there were 2 soccer pitches across the Gaa pitch at the forum though .

If the FODC were to ever develop their own MUSA-like sports facility, the Bawnacre or somewhere near would probably be a decent/compromise location for it.

GAA Discussion / Re: Ulster Club SFC 2021
« on: December 21, 2021, 03:21:04 PM »
There is one in Strathroy. There was talk of it being transferred to St Endas or Tyrone Ladies. Not sure if its full size or not. Pitch at Youth Sport but again not Council owned. Massive need for a centre like the MUSA in the Omagh area. Drumquin's pitch is almost complete and ready for use.

Forgot about Strathroy! :-[ Never been at it but if it's not at least 130 metres long then it's not really much use to a club for playing games on and would St. Enda's really need it when they already have St. Patrick's Park as a secondary ground already?

A facility like MUSA in the Omagh area would be great, but MUSAs own location in Cookstown makes it very accessible to a lot of East Tyrone/South Derry/SW Antrim, whereas such a facility out west would likely need more than just the Omagh area in mind, probably the whole FODC area alongside the Derg & Clogher valleys. Youth Sport Omagh is an OK spot, but GAA provision there always seemed to be somewhat of a bolt-on rather than be one of the primary activities - the changing rooms themselves are too small for Gaelic Football and Hurling teams for a start. IIRC there's little major GAA activity there now, some training nights for the county girls football teams and not much else. Used to be more popular back over a decade or so ago.

Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
« on: December 21, 2021, 03:06:35 PM »
If Donaghmore are fielding a thirds team next year, then good luck to them. However if they think that simply gathering once a week for training with little in the way of playing & tactical structure will be fine, then they'll be in for a rude awakening  - Errigal Ciaran, Carrickmore and Coalisland all found out upon initially entering thirds teams that Junior football in Tyrone is "serious business" for the non-thirds teams involved, and that even the teams in the bottom third of the division will thump them if they're not prepared. Errigal upped their game in response while Coalisland, after a couple of years, look to be heading in a similar direction while Carrickmore decided to chuck it in after a couple of years - the one thing linking Errigal & Coalisland is that they eventually added a fourth adult team (i.e. third reserves) as well, something Carrickmore failed to do. Looking at the playing numbers coming through at Donaghmore, from my own limited knowledge they should have the numbers to eventually have four adult teams being a realistic prospect within a few years.

Now the leagues are finally over - is there any word on when 2022 will start? Surely clubs need to know sooner rather than later to plan pre-season.

I can't recall any time before when a start date for the next club season was announced before the previous year was over. Also it's pretty hard/foolish to make an announcement when firm details of all intercounty dates have yet to be finalised.

Edit: I see the GAA have published their master fixture list for 2022, it'll still need a bit of time for the Tyrone CCC to work out dates, competitions & formats etc. with the clubs not to mention the likes of the Ulster SFC championship fixtures to be finalised.

GAA Discussion / Re: Ulster Club SFC 2021
« on: December 21, 2021, 02:48:47 PM »
It's not just in Derry city apparently where the local authority might be found wanting in providing council-owned GAA pitches for hire - I'm not sure about the Fermanagh part but the Tyrone part of the Fermanagh & Omagh DC doesn't really have much in the way of council-owned GAA playing fields. There's council owned GAA pitches in Dromore (at Crawford's Lane next door to Tummery Athletic's soccer pitch, though I think it's rarely used by the Dromore GAA club now), Trillick & Gortin. I know that there was one in Drumquin that was conveniently located next door to the GAA club that was in good use when Drumquin's main pitch was being done up - now the GAA club has bought the council field and are doing it up themselves. There's none in Omagh town itself. There used to be one in Fintona at Ecclesville Park in the early 90's that had wooden goalposts, but it had to make way for the development of the Ecclesville Centre and there's been no replacement since.

GAA Discussion / Re: Ulster JFC/IFC 2021.
« on: December 21, 2021, 02:35:09 PM »
Battle of the two ‘Towns’ in the IFC though. Tyrone sides usually strong at this level, but steelstown making statements with their victories.

Nobody relegated this year in Tyrone

There was, four teams each relegated from Divisions 1 & 2.

Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
« on: December 15, 2021, 03:08:24 PM »
Same old faces returned at the county convention.

Of the posts that went for election...

Ulster Council reps (2): Michell Cox (Drumragh) 49, Connor Sally (Omagh) 44, Peter Kennedy (Derrylaughan) 26.
Culture & Language: Stephen Hughes (Dungannon) 98, Michael McCaughey (Beragh) 21.
County PRO: Eugene McConnell (Clogher) 101, Oliver McVeigh (Donaghmore) 17.

All other posts were unopposed.

Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
« on: December 15, 2021, 01:45:56 PM »
Someone explain the Loughmacrory situation, done well to get to under 17 final with zero youth players.

If you look at my own club's numbers, they look alarmingly low too especially as we are a dual club at U13 & U15 levels with both football teams at that age grade having played in Grade 1 this year, but I think I can explain it. It looks like the figures published in that report are based upon numbers reported by all clubs - however, Fintona in addition to the standard adult and youth club membership tiers also has a family membership option that covers two adults and two children under 18. The cost of family club membership is equivalent to that of two adults and one youth, essentially making the second youth membership fee free. The membership figures published in the county convention (I assume that is where that graphic came from) for Fintona would appear to match the amount of standalone adult (or adult & senior citizen) and youth memberships in the club for 2021 going of by my own memory from our AGM, but excludes members whom registered under the family membership, which has notably increased in our club in the past couple of years at the expense of declining standalone adult & youth memberships - so our actual membership numbers is a good bit bigger than shown in the County Convention report.

I suspect Loughmacrory, and possibly a few other clubs, might operate a similar group membership discount scheme whose total figures are higher than what's reported, though that doesn't easily explain zero youth members!

I'm told that from next year there's a new centralised IT system being put in place in the GAA for the registration of memberships that can be added directly by club registrars, likely the case that county officials will be authorised (within GDPR limits) to have this data available to them at county level which should make the publication of individual adult & youth membership figures at next years County Convention more accurate.

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