Scottish independence referendum thread

[thebigfella]

WTF relevance is a border poll to the Scottish independence vote... It would only be relevant if the 6 counties of the North was running a referendum on independence, which would never happen as Thatcher would be better than those cnuts at Stormont.

The question on the United Ireland is completely different as it not just the decision of people in the 6 counties.

It is

You can try to convince yourself all you want but no it is not. It was entirely their own decision.

I don't need to convince myself of anything,it's in black and white when the majority of those living in the 6 counties vote to leave the UK it shall happen?It will be their decision and theirs alone.

Leaving the UK is up to the 6 counties. Removal of the border will be 32 county vote. 

[Rossfan]

WTF relevance is a border poll to the Scottish independence vote... It would only be relevant if the 6 counties of the North was running a referendum on independence, which would never happen as Thatcher would be better than those cnuts at Stormont.

The question on the United Ireland is completely different as it not just the decision of people in the 6 counties.

It is

You can try to convince yourself all you want but no it is not. It was entirely their own decision.

I don't need to convince myself of anything,it's in black and white when the majority of those living in the 6 counties vote to leave the UK it shall happen?It will be their decision and theirs alone.

Leaving the UK is up to the 6 counties. Removal of the border will be 32 county vote.

Indeed. For a valid marriage both partners have to say I do.

The 6Cos. a Nation now it seems   !!!!! Pleeeease.....

[Eamonnca1]

Scotland has always been a nation of backstabbers
various other films show glimpses of the historical betrayals - eg kidnapped, rob roy etc

I've never trusted cats since I first saw Tom & Jerry.

Point of order: Rob Roy's a true story.

Carry on.

[Eamonnca1]

What a pity the Scots didn't have the courage to see it through.
We'll see now if CameronCleggMilliband can deliver on their promises when the English and Welsh MPs start to kick up a fuss.
If they don't I wonder how many no voters will be sorry.

Couldn't see it being a problem. Government whips will push it through, and it only needs more Labour supporters than there are backbench rebels on the government side.

[Eamonnca1]

My post-mortem:

• Not enough of a ground operation in Glasgow? They should have gotten more than 53.49% there. There can't be that many Rangers fans.


• Not enough specifics on the future setup. Should have had their ducks lined up about a currency union with England and explained better that it's not up to the Bank of England or the British PM who uses their currency. A country can decide to use any currency it likes.


• Not enough emphasis on Trident blocking the path of exploitation of oil reserves off the west coast. That would have been a slam-dunk with many voters but I never even heard about it until late in the campaign when a fella from some socialist party brought it up in an interview with Andrew Neil. Whether or not there's anything to it is irrelevant, the voters would have loved that. They hate nuclear weapons and they love oil revenue. This should have been the centrepiece of the campaign, not the North Sea where production has already peaked.

[Hardy]

Scotland has always been a nation of backstabbers
various other films show glimpses of the historical betrayals - eg kidnapped, rob roy etc

I've never trusted cats since I first saw Tom & Jerry.

Point of order: Rob Roy's a true story.

Carry on.

Like the 'Carry on' series you invoke, the 'Rob Roy' to which he referred was a film - a work of fiction.

[ONeill]

I was surprised to see people blur logic with the heart in predicting this outcome.

[lynchbhoy]

Scotland has always been a nation of backstabbers
various other films show glimpses of the historical betrayals - eg kidnapped, rob roy etc

I've never trusted cats since I first saw Tom & Jerry.

Your point being ?

[lynchbhoy]

I'm happy enough with a 'no' vote. It preserves our own economic recovery as well as stopping the scots steal new foreign investment /jobs through low corporation tax etc

[foxcommander]

Will the jocks now stop singing "Flower of Scotland" as their anthem for sports. Would kinda seem wrong now.

[Myles Na G.]

I'm happy enough with a 'no' vote. It preserves our own economic recovery as well as stopping the scots steal new foreign investment /jobs through low corporation tax etc

That's a valid point. I think the Dublin govt wouldn't have welcomed the competition an independent Scotland would have provided.

[Rossfan]

Will the North now get the lower Corporation tax MartyPeter were looking for?
Cameron put them on hold till after the Scottish Referendum.

[Maguire01]

Will the North now get the lower Corporation tax MartyPeter were looking for?
Cameron put them on hold till after the Scottish Referendum.

They can't manage what they have already.

[muppet]

A lot of very depressed people in Scotland after the result.  However,  given we were up against the Westminster establishment,  the media (only 1 paper supported independence) and the financial world then 45% was a good achievement. I felt 2 weeks ago that we were going to do it but the yes majority poll scared Westminster and we had 10 days of blanket fear coverage with banks and major companies threatening to leave.  That swung people who were moving to yes back to no.

3/4 of over 65's voted no. Give it a few years and we'll be back.

The 'No' campaign made it clear that an independent Scotland would start life with 1 uncooperative neighbour to the south. The debate never moved to the question of what friends such an entity might have. Given that US investors will rush into places like Iraq, China, Georgia & Russia at the first hint of stability, an independent Scotland had little to worry about. Add to the obvious connections with Ireland and all of the EU and probably Canada and finance would not have been an issue. It was a complete red herring of an issue, even allowing for the national debt problem.

[Jeepers Creepers]

There'll be some banter at the next Calcutta cup game.

O flower of Scotland
When will we see your like again
That fought and died for
Your wee bit hill and glen
And stood against him
Proud Edward's army
And sent him homeward
Tae think again

The hills are bare now
And autumn leaves lie thick and still
O'er land that is lost now
Which those so dearly held
And stood against him
Proud Edward's army
And sent him homeward
Tae think again

Those days are passed now
And in the past they must remain
But we can still rise now
And be the nation again
That stood against him
Proud Edward's army
And sent him homeward
Tae think again