NFL Division 1 2024

[tonto1888]

What a joke of a free to give Armagh the draw.

Mayo self destructed although injury time as well

He tackled ONeill round the waist. Was a free all day

[Milltown Row2]

Armagh have played 20 minutes football over 2 games and have 3 points on the board so that is a positive, McCabe is available after suspension for the next game and hopefully some injuries will clear up soon. Ross McQuillan surely deserves a start? What does Hall offer - I just can't understand how he continually gets a starting spot.

17-17 sounds like a great game but I thought it was Shite bar the last 10 minutes tbh (& freezing). Made no use of a significant breeze in the 1st half at all, very little direct ball played in - the wind totally died away in the 2nd half too so Mayo didn't have that advantage. I dunno who I would have given MOTM to, probably Ethan Rafferty, he made a few mistakes but he's got a big set of balls and never shys away from it. Turbitt is a top quality player, looks like a bit of a lazy sod sometimes but there's gold in them boots.

Edit - the ref was terrible, blew every tiny bit of contact, just awful.

So the ref was consistent in calling frees? So no benefit to either team at least players know then what they can do and not do

[David McKeown]

Armagh have played 20 minutes football over 2 games and have 3 points on the board so that is a positive, McCabe is available after suspension for the next game and hopefully some injuries will clear up soon. Ross McQuillan surely deserves a start? What does Hall offer - I just can't understand how he continually gets a starting spot.

17-17 sounds like a great game but I thought it was Shite bar the last 10 minutes tbh (& freezing). Made no use of a significant breeze in the 1st half at all, very little direct ball played in - the wind totally died away in the 2nd half too so Mayo didn't have that advantage. I dunno who I would have given MOTM to, probably Ethan Rafferty, he made a few mistakes but he's got a big set of balls and never shys away from it. Turbitt is a top quality player, looks like a bit of a lazy sod sometimes but there's gold in them boots.

Edit - the ref was terrible, blew every tiny bit of contact, just awful.

So the ref was consistent in calling frees? So no benefit to either team at least players know then what they can do and not do

I remember discussing this with a couple of inter county footballers years ago and being told players don't want consistency from a referee. They want the correct decision and a sensible approach.

[Milltown Row2]

Armagh have played 20 minutes football over 2 games and have 3 points on the board so that is a positive, McCabe is available after suspension for the next game and hopefully some injuries will clear up soon. Ross McQuillan surely deserves a start? What does Hall offer - I just can't understand how he continually gets a starting spot.

17-17 sounds like a great game but I thought it was Shite bar the last 10 minutes tbh (& freezing). Made no use of a significant breeze in the 1st half at all, very little direct ball played in - the wind totally died away in the 2nd half too so Mayo didn't have that advantage. I dunno who I would have given MOTM to, probably Ethan Rafferty, he made a few mistakes but he's got a big set of balls and never shys away from it. Turbitt is a top quality player, looks like a bit of a lazy sod sometimes but there's gold in them boots.

Edit - the ref was terrible, blew every tiny bit of contact, just awful.

So the ref was consistent in calling frees? So no benefit to either team at least players know then what they can do and not do

I remember discussing this with a couple of inter county footballers years ago and being told players don't want consistency from a referee. They want the correct decision and a sensible approach.

Watch few minutes of the Armagh game today, there was a blatant free for Mayo, yet the Armagh lads complained like the ref was a 'cheat'.. here's the thing about players, they never foul any tackles they do are within the rules and the ref has it in for them... you couldn't please them if ya tried.

So the moral of the story is this, players want every call going their way regardless

[tonto1888]

Armagh have played 20 minutes football over 2 games and have 3 points on the board so that is a positive, McCabe is available after suspension for the next game and hopefully some injuries will clear up soon. Ross McQuillan surely deserves a start? What does Hall offer - I just can't understand how he continually gets a starting spot.

17-17 sounds like a great game but I thought it was Shite bar the last 10 minutes tbh (& freezing). Made no use of a significant breeze in the 1st half at all, very little direct ball played in - the wind totally died away in the 2nd half too so Mayo didn't have that advantage. I dunno who I would have given MOTM to, probably Ethan Rafferty, he made a few mistakes but he's got a big set of balls and never shys away from it. Turbitt is a top quality player, looks like a bit of a lazy sod sometimes but there's gold in them boots.

Edit - the ref was terrible, blew every tiny bit of contact, just awful.

So the ref was consistent in calling frees? So no benefit to either team at least players know then what they can do and not do

On the ref I'd say he gave them a few soft frees and denied us some blatant frees. Mayo woukd say the same - the opposite way obviously. Say what you want about the decisions he made or didn't make but he was consistent in them

[bennydorano]

Armagh have played 20 minutes football over 2 games and have 3 points on the board so that is a positive, McCabe is available after suspension for the next game and hopefully some injuries will clear up soon. Ross McQuillan surely deserves a start? What does Hall offer - I just can't understand how he continually gets a starting spot.

17-17 sounds like a great game but I thought it was Shite bar the last 10 minutes tbh (& freezing). Made no use of a significant breeze in the 1st half at all, very little direct ball played in - the wind totally died away in the 2nd half too so Mayo didn't have that advantage. I dunno who I would have given MOTM to, probably Ethan Rafferty, he made a few mistakes but he's got a big set of balls and never shys away from it. Turbitt is a top quality player, looks like a bit of a lazy sod sometimes but there's gold in them boots.

Edit - the ref was terrible, blew every tiny bit of contact, just awful.

So the ref was consistent in calling frees? So no benefit to either team at least players know then what they can do and not do

I remember discussing this with a couple of inter county footballers years ago and being told players don't want consistency from a referee. They want the correct decision and a sensible approach.

Beat me to it, what good is consistency if you're just a bad ref. I don't think you could teach what Pat McEneaney brought to the reffing game, a lot of appeared inate, but no doubt he got better with experience.

[Milltown Row2]

Armagh have played 20 minutes football over 2 games and have 3 points on the board so that is a positive, McCabe is available after suspension for the next game and hopefully some injuries will clear up soon. Ross McQuillan surely deserves a start? What does Hall offer - I just can't understand how he continually gets a starting spot.

17-17 sounds like a great game but I thought it was Shite bar the last 10 minutes tbh (& freezing). Made no use of a significant breeze in the 1st half at all, very little direct ball played in - the wind totally died away in the 2nd half too so Mayo didn't have that advantage. I dunno who I would have given MOTM to, probably Ethan Rafferty, he made a few mistakes but he's got a big set of balls and never shys away from it. Turbitt is a top quality player, looks like a bit of a lazy sod sometimes but there's gold in them boots.

Edit - the ref was terrible, blew every tiny bit of contact, just awful.

So the ref was consistent in calling frees? So no benefit to either team at least players know then what they can do and not do

I remember discussing this with a couple of inter county footballers years ago and being told players don't want consistency from a referee. They want the correct decision and a sensible approach.

Beat me to it, what good is consistency if you're just a bad ref. I don't think you could teach what Pat McEneaney brought to the reffing game, a lot of appeared inate, but no doubt he got better with experience.

I could say that I was at a match that Pat did and thought he was awful, plain awful and gave the 'home' team everything. And we lost because of his actions. It's all about opinions really.

[Tubberman]

Athletic grounds is a great place for a game. Full house or near enough, and very sound Armagh crowd. There was good craic, probably helped because both teams had their patches and nobody lost!
Thought it was a soft free at the end, but that was some roar when it went over.
Both teams have to stop fading out of games, but when they were on top, they looked v good.

[jmk]

Athletic grounds is a great place for a game. Full house or near enough, and very sound Armagh crowd. There was good craic, probably helped because both teams had their patches and nobody lost!
Thought it was a soft free at the end, but that was some roar when it went over.
Both teams have to stop fading out of games, but when they were on top, they looked v good.
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Last free was perhaps a little soft but he gave a very similar one to Mayo which put them  16-11 up. Both had 2 arns round the man but with no real force.

[tyrone08]

What a joke of a free to give Armagh the draw.

Mayo self destructed although injury time as well

He tackled ONeill round the waist. Was a free all day

Just watched it there now. No way tackle around the waist. He had his arm out and o'neill jumped straight into it, smart move however even the commentators said soft free

[ONeill]

D'y'ever see Rian O'Neill's frees?

He makes the ref think he's going to run back towards the point of the free, with his back turned to the goals. Then when he goes to move, he simply turns and faces the goal and makes up a couple of more yards before striking. I'd say he makes 5 yards every time. Hurson fell for it every time last week. Same again this week.

Armagh should be deducted points.

[Milltown Row2]

Is there an appeals process? CCCC will act fast

[JoG2]

Athletic grounds is a great place for a game. Full house or near enough, and very sound Armagh crowd. There was good craic, probably helped because both teams had their patches and nobody lost!
Thought it was a soft free at the end, but that was some roar when it went over.
Both teams have to stop fading out of games, but when they were on top, they looked v good.

Just watched the highlights there. Great battle played out in front of a huge crowd. The Athletic Grounds is as good a stadium in the country to watch a game of football.

[Blowitupref]

[David McKeown]

Armagh have played 20 minutes football over 2 games and have 3 points on the board so that is a positive, McCabe is available after suspension for the next game and hopefully some injuries will clear up soon. Ross McQuillan surely deserves a start? What does Hall offer - I just can't understand how he continually gets a starting spot.

17-17 sounds like a great game but I thought it was Shite bar the last 10 minutes tbh (& freezing). Made no use of a significant breeze in the 1st half at all, very little direct ball played in - the wind totally died away in the 2nd half too so Mayo didn't have that advantage. I dunno who I would have given MOTM to, probably Ethan Rafferty, he made a few mistakes but he's got a big set of balls and never shys away from it. Turbitt is a top quality player, looks like a bit of a lazy sod sometimes but there's gold in them boots.

Edit - the ref was terrible, blew every tiny bit of contact, just awful.

So the ref was consistent in calling frees? So no benefit to either team at least players know then what they can do and not do

I remember discussing this with a couple of inter county footballers years ago and being told players don't want consistency from a referee. They want the correct decision and a sensible approach.

Beat me to it, what good is consistency if you're just a bad ref. I don't think you could teach what Pat McEneaney brought to the reffing game, a lot of appeared inate, but no doubt he got better with experience.

I could say that I was at a match that Pat did and thought he was awful, plain awful and gave the 'home' team everything. And we lost because of his actions. It's all about opinions really.

Yeah I always thought he was overrated as a ref and favoured the bigger teams but as you say a matter of opinion. At IC level I still think refs need more help. Either in the form of more linesmen with more power or the provision of a second ref or dare I say it. A panel of professional referees. The game is too big, too fast and too professional in my opinion for a single amateur referee.