Laois County Football Leagues all chat in here

[blueandwhite1]

how ODs have fallen so low beats me.

Here's a symptom of it anyway. This is U14B. B, not A.

08-07-2016   18:30   SPINK   7 - 33   VS   0 - 0   O'DEMPSEYS   SPINK COMMUNITY FIELD   ANTHONY STAPLETON

I take it this was a hurling game with Anthony Stapleton refereeing?

[SCFC]

It has to be a football result. Od's don't have hurling teams

[Downtheroad]

It has to be a football result. Od's don't have hurling teams

It's a football result alright. O'Ds are in big trouble as regards Senior in the long run. They just don't have the talent coming through.  Mind you they are not the only one. Have a look at the Rock's  underage results at under 12 and 14 over the past number of years.   

[The Monument Road]

It has to be a football result. Od's don't have hurling teams

It's a football result alright. O'Ds are in big trouble as regards Senior in the long run. They just don't have the talent coming through.  Mind you they are not the only one. Have a look at the Rock's  underage results at under 12 and 14 over the past number of years.

Seems its more then the clubs named who may be in trouble. Some senior clubs dont or cannot enter juvenile teams into competitions. due to lack of players. Both Arles teams are in real trouble with juvenile numbers which could and probably will put a question mark over their future existance. The parish amalgamation in that area is 99% Ballylinan sourced. A few clubs such as Kileshin, Graigue,Josephs/Barrowhouse, Stradbally Parish GLs,Ballyroan are trying their best at coaching youngsters and they still struggle when it comes to senior competitions. Its very noticable the amount of less traditional football areas who are putting in huge effort at underage football and winning results are beginning to feed through in u12/u14 grades

[Keyser Söze]

Is there a National School still in Arles?

[BallyroanAbu]

It takes ages to bring Juveniles through our first decent crop comes through at minor this year.  I would also like to state I think we are one of the traditional football heartlands in Laois.  We always seem to have a team regardeless of the decade.  Last team to win Laois Senior Championship bar Portalaoise.  Last team in Laois to be in Leinster Club Final bar Portlaoise.  I think we have won alot more than most.    We may not be consistent.

[steven seagal]

Seems its more then the clubs named who may be in trouble. Some senior clubs dont or cannot enter juvenile teams into competitions. due to lack of players. Both Arles teams are in real trouble with juvenile numbers which could and probably will put a question mark over their future existance. The parish amalgamation in that area is 99% Ballylinan sourced. A few clubs such as Kileshin, Graigue,Josephs/Barrowhouse, Stradbally Parish GLs,Ballyroan are trying their best at coaching youngsters and they still struggle when it comes to senior competitions. Its very noticable the amount of less traditional football areas who are putting in huge effort at underage football and winning results are beginning to feed through in u12/u14 grades

The problems of the clubs listed above is that they are amalgamating at juvenile level and not at adult level. Clubs can't reasonably expect to compete at senior level when they might only have four or five players playing minor every year on an amalgamated team. Stradbally Parish Gaels are a case in point, you have three strong, traditional football clubs all pulling out of one juvenile setup, and it doesn't seem to be doing any of them any good at adult level. Stradbally could have been relegated the last two years, and Timahoe and Annanough are stuck in the intermediate. It's hard to see that improving for any of them in the next few years. Emo and Courtwood, Killeshin and Crettyard and all the other amalgamated sides will eventually have to look at joining up at senior level. What will drive it is the players, as happened in Borris-Kilcotton. If they are successful at juvenile level, they will want that to continue at adult level.

[High Fielder]

You've just explained the whole problem in a nutshell steven segal. You are 100% spot on. Small minded club men will be the death of football in this county. What's going on in Laois is a microcosm of what's happening in the country. Numbers dictate. Portlaoise have the numbers and the rest don't. Dublin have them and the rest don't. The more you have the better chance you have of being consistently competitive. Otherwise you are hoping to be lucky every now and then. Basic stuff.

[blueandwhite1]

Cork and Kerry have had divisional teams for years to address this and have high quality club scenes as a result. Amalgamations work if you ignore the old dinosaurs who have too much influence on club committees and county boards. The players normally have different views. It has certainly made our club championship much better in hurling in a very short space of time. The challenge is to get it right from the start as you can't be changing your amalgamations every few years when population dynamics change. Unfortunately in Laois, I think we need to be a division 4 team with Portlaoise winning their 15th title in a row before anyone does anything meaningful. 8 competitive senior football teams is enough in Laois.

[High Fielder]

Those dinosaurs you talk about have taken potential medals away from players in recent years. Players who might never win a county medal. It is disgraceful and I agree with you. Way too much football in this county for the size of pool we have. And what do we get? Matches being conceded left right and centre. Some of the lower leagues this year have been embarrassing. Cut it all and make it competitive. In time we'll get the players we need. Leave it as it is and we'll fall off the face of the earth.

[Dave like the tv channel]

Make the cut, but do it right and quick. No longdrawnout bs like before. Cut eight and be done with it. Design a series of playoffs, if needed to allow promotion and relegation.

If some team thinks they should be in the new intermediate set up, let them win their way up to it. Be brutal, because it's the only way to find our clubs' true levels.

[redsetanta]

They split the league this year based on standings so could easily be done with championship if the will was there. Do the same as the hurling and call it Senior A and Senior B if clubs don't like the idea of being intermediate.

[Dave like the tv channel]

B for bullcrap. Tell the grown men to grow up and that if you're in tier2, you're intermediate. The pussyfooting around the senior a/b in hurling is ridiculous. It's tier2, so it's intermediate.

[Downtheroad]

B for bullcrap. Tell the grown men to grow up and that if you're in tier2, you're intermediate. The pussyfooting around the senior a/b in hurling is ridiculous. It's tier2, so it's intermediate.

Have to agree.Went to see a few Senior B hurling games last year and to be honest if it was Kilkenny, it would be junior A. Kerry has 8 senior football clubs together with 8 Divisional teams and it's a proper championship. The likes of Brian Sheehan is happy to play for his division and a lower grade for his club. I would hate to see any club folding  but the best chance of all current clubs surviving is a twin track approach of  having an area team for Senior and club playing at the appropriate grade. As a compromise, I suggest 10 club teams and 6 area teams to retain the current 16 team format which I have to say works well from a organisational point of view.

[redsetanta]

What would be the list of teams and amalgamations DTR?