Cecil the Lion

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J70

Quote from: The Iceman on August 07, 2015, 08:32:40 PM
Quote from: J70 on August 07, 2015, 05:35:38 PM
Quote from: The Iceman on August 07, 2015, 05:28:11 PM
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/08/06/an-unarmed-white-teen-was-shot-dead-by-police-his-family-asks-where-is-the-outrage/?postshare=5691438959904493

I think this is a fairly good example of the media bias. If this lad was black he would be all over the news. Unarmed teen shot while his girlfriend ate ice cream in the car beside him....

Not part of the agenda the Media wants us to hear so it's buried somewhere....

Is the issue not the frequency with which it happens? Are whites routinely targeted by police like minorities, especially blacks are? I've never been stopped and frisked in NYC. I guarantee you if I was black, I would have been, probably at least several times. I don't think anyone has ever said that white people are never wrongly killed or assaulted by police. Its an issue of proportion.

Well having considered it again this highlights the reluctance maybe of the media to showcase more police brutality? I'm very torn on it all.
There's definitely bias from the police towards black people. No doubt. But there is some crazy situations where your life is or could be on the line and calls have to be made. I don't know given the circumstances which I would choose. Shoot or be shot... Actually I do know - I would shoot, selfishly, I would shoot. I'm not saying all of these cases are cut and dry and the officer had every right to shoot.

In the case of this young lad it was foolish to drive at a cop. The cop could have jumped - responding with lethal force wasn't the answer....

But it isn't being showcased at the minute as it doesn't fit into the media's agenda.  Living in different parts of the country you can see a real bias. In Seattle everything is pro gay. No mention of Planned Parenthood, or anything moderately religious on the news. Unless its misquoting Pope Francis.... nothing of real note but the new rainbow crosswalks we had installed by the gay mayor for tens of thousands of dollars a pop....

Its been covered by the NY Times and the WP, among numerous others. Hardly being ignored. And as the Times story comments, part of the lack of impact has to do with the lack of video footage, like in the Garner and several of the other high profile black killings.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/08/us/questions-arise-after-police-kill-a-white-teenager-zachary-hammond.html?_r=0

As for Seattle, just what religious issues do you feel should be making the news? And what is wrong with pro-gay coverage? Are you looking for anti-gay stories or editorializing? And the Pope gets tonnes of coverage, unless you're saying that his views on climate change, divorcees, poverty and so on are being misrepresented?

stew

Quote from: J70 on August 08, 2015, 12:18:22 PM
Quote from: The Iceman on August 07, 2015, 08:32:40 PM
Quote from: J70 on August 07, 2015, 05:35:38 PM
Quote from: The Iceman on August 07, 2015, 05:28:11 PM
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/08/06/an-unarmed-white-teen-was-shot-dead-by-police-his-family-asks-where-is-the-outrage/?postshare=5691438959904493

I think this is a fairly good example of the media bias. If this lad was black he would be all over the news. Unarmed teen shot while his girlfriend ate ice cream in the car beside him....

Not part of the agenda the Media wants us to hear so it's buried somewhere....

Is the issue not the frequency with which it happens? Are whites routinely targeted by police like minorities, especially blacks are? I've never been stopped and frisked in NYC. I guarantee you if I was black, I would have been, probably at least several times. I don't think anyone has ever said that white people are never wrongly killed or assaulted by police. Its an issue of proportion.

Well having considered it again this highlights the reluctance maybe of the media to showcase more police brutality? I'm very torn on it all.
There's definitely bias from the police towards black people. No doubt. But there is some crazy situations where your life is or could be on the line and calls have to be made. I don't know given the circumstances which I would choose. Shoot or be shot... Actually I do know - I would shoot, selfishly, I would shoot. I'm not saying all of these cases are cut and dry and the officer had every right to shoot.

In the case of this young lad it was foolish to drive at a cop. The cop could have jumped - responding with lethal force wasn't the answer....

But it isn't being showcased at the minute as it doesn't fit into the media's agenda.  Living in different parts of the country you can see a real bias. In Seattle everything is pro gay. No mention of Planned Parenthood, or anything moderately religious on the news. Unless its misquoting Pope Francis.... nothing of real note but the new rainbow crosswalks we had installed by the gay mayor for tens of thousands of dollars a pop....

Its been covered by the NY Times and the WP, among numerous others. Hardly being ignored. And as the Times story comments, part of the lack of impact has to do with the lack of video footage, like in the Garner and several of the other high profile black killings.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/08/us/questions-arise-after-police-kill-a-white-teenager-zachary-hammond.html?_r=0

As for Seattle, just what religious issues do you feel should be making the news? And what is wrong with pro-gay coverage? Are you looking for anti-gay stories or editorializing? And the Pope gets tonnes of coverage, unless you're saying that his views on climate change, divorcees, poverty and so on are being misrepresented?

What the f**k are they doing talking about peoples sexuality? I dont give two shites as long as children are not involved!

I am offically sick of that Jenner f**ker, I am delighted his show is bombing, I am disgusted at him winning an award for bravery, I am tired of people talking about trannys, I dont want to hear straight people talking about sex let alone gay people.
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The Iceman

Quote from: J70 on August 08, 2015, 12:18:22 PM
Its been covered by the NY Times and the WP, among numerous others. Hardly being ignored. And as the Times story comments, part of the lack of impact has to do with the lack of video footage, like in the Garner and several of the other high profile black killings.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/08/us/questions-arise-after-police-kill-a-white-teenager-zachary-hammond.html?_r=0

As for Seattle, just what religious issues do you feel should be making the news? And what is wrong with pro-gay coverage? Are you looking for anti-gay stories or editorializing? And the Pope gets tonnes of coverage, unless you're saying that his views on climate change, divorcees, poverty and so on are being misrepresented?

I wasn't asking for anything religious just pointing out the bias in different parts of the country. Having lived on the East coast and now in the PNW there is a vast difference. Seattle especially focuses on gay rights, gay pride, the gay mayor, the gay cake case, the rainbow crosswalks.... its mad. There is rarely anything Christian related - regardless if there is a story or not.... that was my point.
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armaghniac

Quote from: The Iceman on August 09, 2015, 04:30:36 AM
I wasn't asking for anything religious just pointing out the bias in different parts of the country. Having lived on the East coast and now in the PNW there is a vast difference. Seattle especially focuses on gay rights, gay pride, the gay mayor, the gay cake case, the rainbow crosswalks.... its mad. There is rarely anything Christian related - regardless if there is a story or not.... that was my point.

The kind of thing makes you demented
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3050776/Plans-rainbow-coloured-zebra-crossing-support-gay-rights-abandoned-fears-cause-hallucinations-dementia-sufferers.html

In general, road markings shouldn't be fiddled with for trival reasons, if they are in black and white it is becuase that makes them easier to see, not a political statement.
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J70

Quote from: The Iceman on August 09, 2015, 04:30:36 AM
Quote from: J70 on August 08, 2015, 12:18:22 PM
Its been covered by the NY Times and the WP, among numerous others. Hardly being ignored. And as the Times story comments, part of the lack of impact has to do with the lack of video footage, like in the Garner and several of the other high profile black killings.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/08/us/questions-arise-after-police-kill-a-white-teenager-zachary-hammond.html?_r=0

As for Seattle, just what religious issues do you feel should be making the news? And what is wrong with pro-gay coverage? Are you looking for anti-gay stories or editorializing? And the Pope gets tonnes of coverage, unless you're saying that his views on climate change, divorcees, poverty and so on are being misrepresented?

I wasn't asking for anything religious just pointing out the bias in different parts of the country. Having lived on the East coast and now in the PNW there is a vast difference. Seattle especially focuses on gay rights, gay pride, the gay mayor, the gay cake case, the rainbow crosswalks.... its mad. There is rarely anything Christian related - regardless if there is a story or not.... that was my point.

But gay rights is a very topical issue, and given the advances this summer, its only natural that it would be celebrated.

And seriously, if Seattle is, for a while, celebrating gay rights, so what? The country as a whole is still a Christian nation, as we are told constantly by conservative politicians and media. You are pretty far from being a member of an embattled, persecuted minority.

I'm an atheist FFS, a part of my identity that still has to be kept under wraps around most people and which would pretty much bar me from competing for any national elected office (I'd be better off as a gay muslim, and that is saying something in the US). Yet I'm not huddled up in a foetal position crying over the general bias against me.

J70

Quote from: stew on August 08, 2015, 04:31:12 PM
Quote from: J70 on August 08, 2015, 12:18:22 PM
Quote from: The Iceman on August 07, 2015, 08:32:40 PM
Quote from: J70 on August 07, 2015, 05:35:38 PM
Quote from: The Iceman on August 07, 2015, 05:28:11 PM
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/08/06/an-unarmed-white-teen-was-shot-dead-by-police-his-family-asks-where-is-the-outrage/?postshare=5691438959904493

I think this is a fairly good example of the media bias. If this lad was black he would be all over the news. Unarmed teen shot while his girlfriend ate ice cream in the car beside him....

Not part of the agenda the Media wants us to hear so it's buried somewhere....

Is the issue not the frequency with which it happens? Are whites routinely targeted by police like minorities, especially blacks are? I've never been stopped and frisked in NYC. I guarantee you if I was black, I would have been, probably at least several times. I don't think anyone has ever said that white people are never wrongly killed or assaulted by police. Its an issue of proportion.

Well having considered it again this highlights the reluctance maybe of the media to showcase more police brutality? I'm very torn on it all.
There's definitely bias from the police towards black people. No doubt. But there is some crazy situations where your life is or could be on the line and calls have to be made. I don't know given the circumstances which I would choose. Shoot or be shot... Actually I do know - I would shoot, selfishly, I would shoot. I'm not saying all of these cases are cut and dry and the officer had every right to shoot.

In the case of this young lad it was foolish to drive at a cop. The cop could have jumped - responding with lethal force wasn't the answer....

But it isn't being showcased at the minute as it doesn't fit into the media's agenda.  Living in different parts of the country you can see a real bias. In Seattle everything is pro gay. No mention of Planned Parenthood, or anything moderately religious on the news. Unless its misquoting Pope Francis.... nothing of real note but the new rainbow crosswalks we had installed by the gay mayor for tens of thousands of dollars a pop....

Its been covered by the NY Times and the WP, among numerous others. Hardly being ignored. And as the Times story comments, part of the lack of impact has to do with the lack of video footage, like in the Garner and several of the other high profile black killings.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/08/us/questions-arise-after-police-kill-a-white-teenager-zachary-hammond.html?_r=0

As for Seattle, just what religious issues do you feel should be making the news? And what is wrong with pro-gay coverage? Are you looking for anti-gay stories or editorializing? And the Pope gets tonnes of coverage, unless you're saying that his views on climate change, divorcees, poverty and so on are being misrepresented?

What the f**k are they doing talking about peoples sexuality? I dont give two shites as long as children are not involved!

I am offically sick of that Jenner f**ker, I am delighted his show is bombing, I am disgusted at him winning an award for bravery, I am tired of people talking about trannys, I dont want to hear straight people talking about sex let alone gay people.

You do realize that this has been a fairly significant summer for gay rights in the US, right?

Who's talking about sex? Sexuality or sexual identity does not equal sex.

I don't really give a shite either way about Jenner personally. Not that I've anything against him or sex changes or transgender rights. I just don't care about him or the Kardashians. But on the other hand, if it helps transgender people in their quest for acceptance, I don't see the harm either.

J70

Quote from: armaghniac on August 09, 2015, 06:37:16 AM
Quote from: The Iceman on August 09, 2015, 04:30:36 AM
I wasn't asking for anything religious just pointing out the bias in different parts of the country. Having lived on the East coast and now in the PNW there is a vast difference. Seattle especially focuses on gay rights, gay pride, the gay mayor, the gay cake case, the rainbow crosswalks.... its mad. There is rarely anything Christian related - regardless if there is a story or not.... that was my point.

The kind of thing makes you demented
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3050776/Plans-rainbow-coloured-zebra-crossing-support-gay-rights-abandoned-fears-cause-hallucinations-dementia-sufferers.html

In general, road markings shouldn't be fiddled with for trival reasons, if they are in black and white it is becuase that makes them easier to see, not a political statement.

;D

Fair point though.

easytiger95

In fairness, if you read an article in the Daily Mail that makes you demented, then you're the kind of person who is made demented by articles in the Daily Mail,- which is a problem.

The Iceman

https://stream.org/7th-planned-parenthood-video-shows-baby-born-alive-no-defense-left/

Puck and anyone else who has argued differently - please watch this and tell me whats it all about. Planned Parenthood. Give it 10 mins of your time  - please!
I will always keep myself mentally alert, physically strong and morally straight