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General discussion / Re: Net Neutrality
« on: December 15, 2017, 01:48:24 PM »
Internet search before Google doesnít bear thinking about. Like trying to travel to the US without planes or ships.

Indeed. Google won because it was better than Alta Vista and Infoseek and the rest which preceded them back in the day. No one held a gun to anyoneís head and made them use it.

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General discussion / Re: Net Neutrality
« on: December 15, 2017, 01:45:19 PM »
for internet access yes. for a telephone line no

Itís well for some.

I pay $75/month for my home high speed connection and another fistful for my mobile phone data. Obviously more spending on top of that for particular subscription services such as Netflix, HBO, Sling etc.

The costs may increase now as charges are passed down by various online outfits to facilitate access to higher speed lanes.

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General discussion / Re: Net Neutrality
« on: December 15, 2017, 10:53:56 AM »
the suspected cons would be that the current internet setup in not viable long term and the 'wrong' people are making billions out of it.
look at facebook it no more than Bebo + but does feck all for its cash it does not provide any of the facilities for the Internet but  gets most of the cash same with google that rifles though other people stuff providing little or no content itself but it get to decide what you View . Bing is an even worse example of this  , and neither of these companies even invented the search engine but again make away with most of the cash .
But yet we expect ISP to provide us with free service

You get free service??

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General discussion / Re: Net Neutrality
« on: December 14, 2017, 08:59:41 PM »
Well if Trump is for it, it must be bad

It's a pity Obama or Hillary didn't think of it.....then it would have been great

Obama did think of it. He implemented the rules preventing the telecommunications outfits from dictating speed of access. Which Trump is scrapping.

You think itís a good thing?

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General discussion / Re: The Many Faces of US Politics...
« on: December 14, 2017, 01:46:56 AM »
Trump was elected on 4/5  policy issues he said he would take care of
The southern border with Mexico building the wall
Do something about isis
Remove usa from perceived bad trade /climate  agreements
Quit the pc bs in politics call it as u see it
Bring back jobs to the USA
It helped Clinton was his opponent but these are the issues he was elected on and it may seem simplistic but ithey are the reasons and the dems had opposite opinion on every one of them and he has delivered on some of them already so he will not be defeated very easily.
He hasn't delivered on jobs.
He gave huge tax cuts to the rich.
And he sacked Comey.

Loser
nobody gives a damn about comey, unemployment is at 4%, there has been no tax cuts as of today .im on the ground here not reading the gaurdian

US Unemployment Rate
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https://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS14000000

Don't see much of Trump effect there. Simply the same trend since 2010. Not that I would hold it against him if it levels off - you can only go so low.

The tax cuts will be passed next week, barring some last minute hitch.

Mueller gives a damn about Comey. And Trump definitely gives a damn about Mueller.

As for political correctness, if you think bald-faced lying and endless childish tantrums and coarse insults is a good thing, well each to their own I guess. I don't see how he is doing the country any favours, either internally or externally on that count. Or his party for that matter.

Border wall... we'll see.
im saying there the reasons he was elected and that electorate do not care too much about comey and any politician would take credit for stats that make them look good.
Both parties are broken and need to be remade from the ground up ,trump is the result of it

Fair enough, although I would qualify that by saying that the Republicans are a mess because of their shift way to the right and their long embrace of ignorance, ultimately leading to Trump, while the Dems currently exist as a watery, nebulous anti-Republican party, defined more by their opposition to the excesses of the GOP than anything positive of their own. The GOP has a vision or ethos, fucked up as it may be. The Dems are the status quo party (not unusual after two presidential terms) and lack a forceful, charismatic leader with a plan. Say what you will about Trump, but there's no question he is in charge and people listen when he talks, even if in horror.

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General discussion / Re: The Many Faces of US Politics...
« on: December 14, 2017, 12:35:26 AM »
Trump was elected on 4/5  policy issues he said he would take care of
The southern border with Mexico building the wall
Do something about isis
Remove usa from perceived bad trade /climate  agreements
Quit the pc bs in politics call it as u see it
Bring back jobs to the USA
It helped Clinton was his opponent but these are the issues he was elected on and it may seem simplistic but ithey are the reasons and the dems had opposite opinion on every one of them and he has delivered on some of them already so he will not be defeated very easily.
He hasn't delivered on jobs.
He gave huge tax cuts to the rich.
And he sacked Comey.

Loser
nobody gives a damn about comey, unemployment is at 4%, there has been no tax cuts as of today .im on the ground here not reading the gaurdian

US Unemployment Rate
visitors can't see pics , please register or login

https://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS14000000

Don't see much of Trump effect there. Simply the same trend since 2010. Not that I would hold it against him if it levels off - you can only go so low.

The tax cuts will be passed next week, barring some last minute hitch.

Mueller gives a damn about Comey. And Trump definitely gives a damn about Mueller.

As for political correctness, if you think bald-faced lying and endless childish tantrums and coarse insults is a good thing, well each to their own I guess. I don't see how he is doing the country any favours, either internally or externally on that count. Or his party for that matter.

Border wall... we'll see.

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General discussion / Re: The Many Faces of US Politics...
« on: December 13, 2017, 07:17:16 PM »
Just going to sit back and let the GOP spin-doctors go to work i.e Whitey and Fox Commander. This is the second stage in the uprising against Trump. After only a year, Trump and his reforms, promises, sexual misconduct and poor use of words, has led his approval ratings to sink to a new low. Multiply this by 4 and I reckon Hillary will be begged back to stand again. Democrat win in 2020 is as close to a certainty as you can get....the only bigger certainty is Faugheen winning the Champion Hurdle in 2018.

I deal in facts not spin

Romney beat Obama by 20 points in Alabama in 212

Roy Moore was on the same ballot in a state wide contest and won his respective race by 2 points against a Democrat

So back of the napkin math (and correct me if I'm wrong) but about 1/3 of the Republicans voters who voted for Romney did NOT vote for Roy Moore in his race in 2012. He is a very unpopular figure in Alabama, but popular enough with the base to win the primary....simple as

If Luther Strange had been there n the ballot he'd have beaten the Democrat by 15-20 points

Strange had his own issues, but yes, he would have won fairly comfortably.

However, the Bannon wing is not interested in normal right wingers. Itís going to be an interesting spring/summer in GOP land as the primaries get underway.

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General discussion / Re: The Many Faces of US Politics...
« on: December 13, 2017, 05:49:33 PM »
Just going to sit back and let the GOP spin-doctors go to work i.e Whitey and Fox Commander. This is the second stage in the uprising against Trump. After only a year, Trump and his reforms, promises, sexual misconduct and poor use of words, has led his approval ratings to sink to a new low. Multiply this by 4 and I reckon Hillary will be begged back to stand again. Democrat win in 2020 is as close to a certainty as you can get....the only bigger certainty is Faugheen winning the Champion Hurdle in 2018.

Hillary will not be anywhere near the ticket in 2020. She's had two attempts now, and her own arrogance and sense of entitlement went a long way towards dooming her against possibly the worst candidate and human being to ever run for the office.

And the Dems' odds depend on who they nominate, whether Trump is still the incumbent, and what happens, for good or ill, between now and then. Three years off is way too soon to be predicting anything in politics in the US.

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General discussion / Re: The Many Faces of US Politics...
« on: December 13, 2017, 04:53:31 PM »
There are few candidates who would come with the negative baggage, both real and imagined, that Hillary did.

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General discussion / Re: The Many Faces of US Politics...
« on: December 13, 2017, 01:47:58 PM »
Any word from the President yet?

I stand corrected.

Trump is going the ďitís all about me and not my fault that Moore, who I always said was a loser, didnít winĒ route!  ;D

The reason I originally endorsed Luther Strange (and his numbers went up mightily), is that I said Roy Moore will not be able to win the General Election.  I was right! Roy worked hard but the deck was stacked against him

Yes Donald, deep red, redneck Alabama where a Dem hadnít won in 25 years was a stacked deck!  ;D ;D ;D

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General discussion / Re: The Many Faces of US Politics...
« on: December 13, 2017, 12:28:19 PM »
Any word from the President yet?

Someone drafted a reasonably gracious tweet for him last night.

I suspect he really wants to start lashing out with voter fraud claims and so on though. The mood will not be good this morning!

Moore still hasn't conceded yet and is going for a recount . . . no shame!!!
Heíll concede today.

Or maybe not - he is from the conspiracy theorizing wing of the US right.

But the fact is unless he conjures up thousands of votes to close the gap, he is looking at a 1.5% losing margin. Which means HE has to pay for any recount. State-funded recount only kicks in for a margin of <0.5%.


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General discussion / Re: The Many Faces of US Politics...
« on: December 13, 2017, 12:12:12 PM »
Any word from the President yet?

Someone drafted a reasonably gracious tweet for him last night.

I suspect he really wants to start lashing out with voter fraud claims and so on though. The mood will not be good this morning!

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General discussion / Re: The Many Faces of US Politics...
« on: December 13, 2017, 03:39:18 AM »
Major embarrassment for Trump and Bannon.

And theyíre stuck with Moore now. Whereas the likes of Flake and Shelby maintained their dignity.

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General discussion / Re: The Many Faces of US Politics...
« on: December 13, 2017, 03:22:06 AM »
Not looking good for Moore...

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