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General discussion / Re: The Many Faces of US Politics...
« on: Today at 03:39:18 AM »
Major embarrassment for Trump and Bannon.

And they’re stuck with Moore now. Whereas the likes of Flake and Shelby maintained their dignity.

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General discussion / Re: The Many Faces of US Politics...
« on: Today at 03:22:06 AM »
Not looking good for Moore...

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General discussion / Re: The Many Faces of US Politics...
« on: December 12, 2017, 04:31:28 PM »
"but I think you’re being a bit disingenuous with the drinking and harassment bit"

Why did you leave out the “Did the press hold ANYONE accountable for that type of behaviour?” part of my post??

Re read your sentence. There's a full stop in between your statements

Are you saying the drinking and harassment didn't happen.,..because it absolutely did

Or are you saying I'm disingenuous because the press didn't hold anyone accountable back then so Ted was just another rich white guy getting a pass

Obviously I’m not saying drinking and harassment didn’t happen, so yes, last sentence. Although I don’t think anyone was held accountable for such behaviour by anyone, never mind by the press. Women just had to grin and bear it.

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General discussion / Re: The Many Faces of US Politics...
« on: December 12, 2017, 03:14:26 PM »
"but I think you’re being a bit disingenuous with the drinking and harassment bit"

Why did you leave out the “Did the press hold ANYONE accountable for that type of behaviour?” part of my post??

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General discussion / Re: The Many Faces of US Politics...
« on: December 12, 2017, 02:33:05 PM »
Whitey keeps mentioning Clinton and Kennedy in connection with sexual harassment and sexual assault, what are the specific allegations against them, I know Bill played the harmonica :-) and did a bit of philandering, and Kennedy was involve in Chappaquiddick but I can't recall allegations of harassment or assault against them. though in fairness I have a shit memory lol.

Bill Clinton was actually accused of rape and sexual assault and paid settlements to several women for those indiscretions.  Apart from Chapaquidick (where he left a young woman to drown in his car) Ted Kennedy was a renowned alcoholic who was infamous for grabbing and groping women especially waitresses....of course he got a free pass from the press on much of what he did because he was a Kennedy

Chappaquidick should have, at least, ended his public career, but I think you’re being a bit disingenuous with the drinking and harassment bit. Did the press hold ANYONE accountable for that type of behaviour?

Why do you always have to stick up for theses fvcks?

I have lived in MA pretty much for the past 25 years....I know people personally who worked at bars, country clubs and marinas down the Cape where the Kennedys hung out.  Ted Kennedy was a fvckin disgrace

https://www.gq.com/story/kennedy-ted-senator-profile

Where did I stick up for them?

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General discussion / Re: The Many Faces of US Politics...
« on: December 12, 2017, 02:07:55 PM »
Whitey keeps mentioning Clinton and Kennedy in connection with sexual harassment and sexual assault, what are the specific allegations against them, I know Bill played the harmonica :-) and did a bit of philandering, and Kennedy was involve in Chappaquiddick but I can't recall allegations of harassment or assault against them. though in fairness I have a shit memory lol.

Bill Clinton was actually accused of rape and sexual assault and paid settlements to several women for those indiscretions.  Apart from Chapaquidick (where he left a young woman to drown in his car) Ted Kennedy was a renowned alcoholic who was infamous for grabbing and groping women especially waitresses....of course he got a free pass from the press on much of what he did because he was a Kennedy

Chappaquidick should have, at least, ended his public career, but I think you’re being a bit disingenuous with the drinking and harassment bit. Did the press hold ANYONE accountable for that type of behaviour?

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General discussion / Re: The Many Faces of US Politics...
« on: December 11, 2017, 09:04:16 PM »
What would have happened if Hillary won ?

Would people be calling for Bill to be removed from the White House?

Who knows?

Had the blowback been as severe as it has all around, quite possibly.

I know some on the right are consoling themselves with that particular what-might-have-been. And the right wing in general would have been beating the drum intensely to see his removal, including congressional investigations.

But we are where we are. You can only react to the circumstances you're in.


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General discussion / Re: The Many Faces of US Politics...
« on: December 11, 2017, 08:38:32 PM »
I see Trump's accusers have come out again... Where have they been for the last year??

They had to wait first for the Democrats to regain the high moral ground as it pertains to the issue of sexual assault. They had lost it for 20/30 years with their unwavering loyalty to Bill Clinton and Ted Kennedy

They just got it back last week when they forced Al Franken to resign

Nothing stopping the GOP following suit amidst what is looking like a major cultural turning point. This should not be a partisan issue. If the Dems seize the high ground, it will only because the GOP refuse to join them there.

Hahaha....forcing Franken out when his replacement gets to be handpicked by the Democratic governor required a lot of courage on their end. I knew something was up last week. 

Looks like maybe the Russian angle isn't working for them

Time for plan b

So... what... the GOP SHOULDN'T bother trying to get with the times and take a stand against sexual assault and harrassment? Its all political, so it doesn't matter?? They shouldn't even bother trying to neutralize it, even if only for political reasons? I'm confused.

And Franken was seated until 2020. Now the Dems have yet another seat to defend next year (and then again in 2020), one which Franken took months of delay to win originally. You think they're happily just going to turn over a stone to find a candidate as popular and capable as Franken? I'd say the GOP are planning to give MN a serious go, especially having done very well in WI in recent times. Doesn't mean they'll win, but it will at the very least take resources away from some of the seats Dems are defending in red states.

As for Moore, there was nothing stopping the GOP getting together and doing a serious write-in campaign. Some of them even wavered and encouraged this. But once Trump got involved, it was Moore all the way, with a few noble exceptions like the senior Senator from Alabama. So spare us the whinging about motives, especially given the climate under which this is taking place.

But rather than your whining about playing politics and plan B's, why don't YOU tell us what SHOULD be happening here?

Who's whining?

I am quite enjoying seeing the liberals lose their mind at the prospect of Roy Moore in the Senate. 

All the time they cried wolf about Republicans over the past few years is blowing up spectacularly in their faces.

 Mitt Romney was a woman hater of the highest order because he had folders full of resumes and allowed his female employers flexible schedules if they wanted to leave early to have dinner with their families

And as for that John Kasich, "housewives" came out of their kitchens to help him get elected, so fvck him too

At the end of the day the Republican Party is fvcked.....maybe Trumps only (and parting gift) will be 2 or 3 Supreme Court Justices. He needs Roy Moore to accomplish that goal

You're questioning the motives of the Democrats on this issue, ignoring the vast cultural groundswell under which this is all taking place. If the Dems kept Franken and Conyers on, you'd be screaming hypocrisy. After them giving them the boot, you're basically doing the same. Fine.

But you're refusing to address my point that if this is all purely political or opportunistic (or even partially), then what is stopping the GOP doing the same? You're refusing to tell us what the GOP, whom you generally support, SHOULD be doing.

You are the one who should be losing your mind over Moore. The man is a disgrace to conservatism. Don't give too much of a f**k about Moore per se myself (its a very safe GOP seat), except that it depresses me a little to see how far off the deep end the GOP is going and has been going for years. Not that I've got common cause with them on most issues, but they have a lot of power over me and my family and the country and environment in which I live. Where is the bottom?

63000000 people voted for Trump in spite of the Access Hollywood tape and in spite of other known allegations.  As far as I'm concerned that has already been litigated in the court of public opinion.  unless some new bombshell emerges it's a done deal as far as Im concerned.

As it pertains to Moore, they should have figured out a way to throw him off the ballot. He's extremely unpopular in Alabama. If he gets elected they should throw him out

On Trump specifically, nothing is going to come of this, at least until the next campaign, even if new allegations come out. He is lucky that all this the Weinstein-instigated backlash didn't happen last year, although in fairness, the allegations against him and his defiant hypocrisy probably laid at least some of the groundwork for Weinstein et al.'s downfall. This reckoning would have happened eventually no matter what, but Trump may have sped it up, even if it was Weinstein that opened the floodgates.

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General discussion / Re: The Many Faces of US Politics...
« on: December 11, 2017, 07:01:08 PM »
I see Trump's accusers have come out again... Where have they been for the last year??

They had to wait first for the Democrats to regain the high moral ground as it pertains to the issue of sexual assault. They had lost it for 20/30 years with their unwavering loyalty to Bill Clinton and Ted Kennedy

They just got it back last week when they forced Al Franken to resign

Nothing stopping the GOP following suit amidst what is looking like a major cultural turning point. This should not be a partisan issue. If the Dems seize the high ground, it will only because the GOP refuse to join them there.

Hahaha....forcing Franken out when his replacement gets to be handpicked by the Democratic governor required a lot of courage on their end. I knew something was up last week. 

Looks like maybe the Russian angle isn't working for them

Time for plan b

So... what... the GOP SHOULDN'T bother trying to get with the times and take a stand against sexual assault and harrassment? Its all political, so it doesn't matter?? They shouldn't even bother trying to neutralize it, even if only for political reasons? I'm confused.

And Franken was seated until 2020. Now the Dems have yet another seat to defend next year (and then again in 2020), one which Franken took months of delay to win originally. You think they're happily just going to turn over a stone to find a candidate as popular and capable as Franken? I'd say the GOP are planning to give MN a serious go, especially having done very well in WI in recent times. Doesn't mean they'll win, but it will at the very least take resources away from some of the seats Dems are defending in red states.

As for Moore, there was nothing stopping the GOP getting together and doing a serious write-in campaign. Some of them even wavered and encouraged this. But once Trump got involved, it was Moore all the way, with a few noble exceptions like the senior Senator from Alabama. So spare us the whinging about motives, especially given the climate under which this is taking place.

But rather than your whining about playing politics and plan B's, why don't YOU tell us what SHOULD be happening here?

Who's whining?

I am quite enjoying seeing the liberals lose their mind at the prospect of Roy Moore in the Senate. 

All the time they cried wolf about Republicans over the past few years is blowing up spectacularly in their faces.

 Mitt Romney was a woman hater of the highest order because he had folders full of resumes and allowed his female employers flexible schedules if they wanted to leave early to have dinner with their families

And as for that John Kasich, "housewives" came out of their kitchens to help him get elected, so fvck him too

At the end of the day the Republican Party is fvcked.....maybe Trumps only (and parting gift) will be 2 or 3 Supreme Court Justices. He needs Roy Moore to accomplish that goal

You're questioning the motives of the Democrats on this issue, ignoring the vast cultural groundswell under which this is all taking place. If the Dems kept Franken and Conyers on, you'd be screaming hypocrisy. After them giving them the boot, you're basically doing the same. Fine.

But you're refusing to address my point that if this is all purely political or opportunistic (or even partially), then what is stopping the GOP doing the same? You're refusing to tell us what the GOP, whom you generally support, SHOULD be doing.

You are the one who should be losing your mind over Moore. The man is a disgrace to conservatism. Don't give too much of a f**k about Moore per se myself (its a very safe GOP seat), except that it depresses me a little to see how far off the deep end the GOP is going and has been going for years. Not that I've got common cause with them on most issues, but they have a lot of power over me and my family and the country and environment in which I live. Where is the bottom?

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General discussion / Re: The Many Faces of US Politics...
« on: December 11, 2017, 06:40:00 PM »
I see Trump's accusers have come out again... Where have they been for the last year??

They had to wait first for the Democrats to regain the high moral ground as it pertains to the issue of sexual assault. They had lost it for 20/30 years with their unwavering loyalty to Bill Clinton and Ted Kennedy

They just got it back last week when they forced Al Franken to resign

Nothing stopping the GOP following suit amidst what is looking like a major cultural turning point. This should not be a partisan issue. If the Dems seize the high ground, it will only because the GOP refuse to join them there.

Hahaha....forcing Franken out when his replacement gets to be handpicked by the Democratic governor required a lot of courage on their end. I knew something was up last week. 

Looks like maybe the Russian angle isn't working for them

Time for plan b

So... what... the GOP SHOULDN'T bother trying to get with the times and take a stand against sexual assault and harrassment? Its all political, so it doesn't matter?? They shouldn't even bother trying to neutralize it, even if only for political reasons? I'm confused.

And Franken was seated until 2020. Now the Dems have yet another seat to defend next year (and then again in 2020), one which Franken took months of delay to win originally. You think they're happily just going to turn over a stone to find a candidate as popular and capable as Franken? I'd say the GOP are planning to give MN a serious go, especially having done very well in WI in recent times. Doesn't mean they'll win, but it will at the very least take resources away from some of the seats Dems are defending in red states.

As for Moore, there was nothing stopping the GOP getting together and doing a serious write-in campaign. Some of them even wavered and encouraged this. But once Trump got involved, it was Moore all the way, with a few noble exceptions like the senior Senator from Alabama. So spare us the whinging about motives, especially given the climate under which this is taking place.

But rather than your whining about playing politics and plan B's, why don't YOU tell us what SHOULD be happening here?

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General discussion / Re: The Many Faces of US Politics...
« on: December 11, 2017, 06:14:30 PM »
I see Trump's accusers have come out again... Where have they been for the last year??

They had to wait first for the Democrats to regain the high moral ground as it pertains to the issue of sexual assault. They had lost it for 20/30 years with their unwavering loyalty to Bill Clinton and Ted Kennedy

They just got it back last week when they forced Al Franken to resign

Nothing stopping the GOP following suit amidst what is looking like a major cultural turning point. This should not be a partisan issue. If the Dems seize the high ground, it will only because the GOP refuse to join them there.

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General discussion / Re: The Many Faces of US Politics...
« on: December 11, 2017, 05:16:47 PM »
Obama has lost the plot!! Trying to take credit for President Trumps success. What a joker.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/dec/6/thanks-obama-former-president-credits-himself-stro/
according to the FT any decent economic performance is a hangover from Obama.
Let's see how well the economy is doing in a year.

Indeed.

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https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/gdp-growth

Why did you bother?

Its pointless. He's a troll.

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General discussion / Re: Investments
« on: December 11, 2017, 04:28:46 PM »
Plenty of legitimate companies out there to invest in.

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General discussion / Re: Investments
« on: December 11, 2017, 04:17:14 PM »
Yeah looks dodge if you ask me ... there are plemty of cryptocurrencies out there that are reputable but anything where you don't get money until you encourage others to sign up makes me very wary!

Have people not learned anything from Madoff??

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GAA Discussion / Re: New Jerseys?
« on: December 11, 2017, 01:51:48 PM »
New Donegal one... not sure if I like this. Might be better with the full kit.

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