UK General Election 2017

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Kilkevan

Quote from: seafoid on June 03, 2017, 11:36:10 AM
The top stuff is in a different price range . Vin de table is what most people in France drink most of the time and it is not expensive.

Not disputing that it is but try a bottle of vin du table in the UK, or Ireland, and tell me what you think of it...

I've more experience of Italy but a basic bottle of wine there is still far superior to what we have to pay over the odds for here. Italian friends who live in Dublin never stop complaining about it.

manfromdelmonte

Quote from: Kilkevan on June 04, 2017, 10:08:41 AM
Quote from: seafoid on June 03, 2017, 11:36:10 AM
The top stuff is in a different price range . Vin de table is what most people in France drink most of the time and it is not expensive.

Not disputing that it is but try a bottle of vin du table in the UK, or Ireland, and tell me what you think of it...

I've more experience of Italy but a basic bottle of wine there is still far superior to what we have to pay over the odds for here. Italian friends who live in Dublin never stop complaining about it.
somebody somewhere is making a killing on the wine
along with the taxman

armaghniac

If you buy cheap bottle of wine then it is mostly tax, not payment for the wine.
If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

seafoid

Quote from: Kilkevan on June 04, 2017, 10:08:41 AM
Quote from: seafoid on June 03, 2017, 11:36:10 AM
The top stuff is in a different price range . Vin de table is what most people in France drink most of the time and it is not expensive.

Not disputing that it is but try a bottle of vin du table in the UK, or Ireland, and tell me what you think of it...

I've more experience of Italy but a basic bottle of wine there is still far superior to what we have to pay over the odds for here. Italian friends who live in Dublin never stop complaining about it.
I think that competition from Oz , Chile and SA has improved standards at the bottom end of the market
French vin de table isn't much different imo. The most popular French wine is Baron de l'estac which is not that different to stuff from Oz in the same price range.
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

Owen Brannigan

Quote from: seafoid on June 04, 2017, 07:37:10 AM
The Telegraph is featuring news about a Labour "garden tax" that will cost people 4k.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/06/03/labours-garden-tax-hit-10million/

PauL Mason says it is fake news

https://mobile.twitter.com/paulmasonnews/status/871104787374387201/photo/1

Paul Mason is certainly an expert in that area.

seafoid

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/live/2017/jun/03/london-bridge-closed-after-serious-police-incident-live

Corbyn criticised President Trump for his comments about the London Bridge attack. 
"At this time it is more important than ever that we stay united in our communities. It is the strength of our communities that gets us through these awful times as London mayor Sadiq Khan recognised but which the current occupant in the White House has neither the grace nor the sense to grasp.
Whether we are Muslim or Christian, black or white, male or female, gay or straight, we are united by our values, by our determination for a better world, and that we can build a better society.
Corbyn said that, if he wins the election, he will commission a report on Friday on the changing nature of the terrorist threat.

If Labour is elected I will commission a report from the security services on Friday on the changing nature of the terrorist threat.
He defended Labour's plans to raise tax for the rich, saying tax "underpins our peaceful, tolerant and civilised society" by funding the police.

The choice you face on 8 June is a Conservative party which has made clear it will press on with another five years of austerity and cuts to essential public services to pay for even more tax handouts to the richest and the big corporations.
Or the Labour party, which is guaranteeing 95% of taxpayers will pay no extra tax but is asking the best off and the largest companies to pay a bit more to fund our hospitals, police, schools, decent pensions and childcare to invest in good jobs and a growing economy for the many not the few.
I don't hesitate to make the case for more tax from those who can afford it.
It is taxation that underpins our peaceful, tolerant and civilised society the police, security services, fire and rescue service, our NHS they have all suffered cuts to pay for tax giveaways for the big corporations and the very richest.
He said if he won the election he would ensure those who acted bravely in the London Bridge attack are honoured.

If I am elected prime minister on 8 June I will be asking the commissioners of the Met police and the British Transport police for the names of those whose bravery should be commended, to acknowledge their heroism and of many others in our emergency services and among the public who intervened."
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

seafoid

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/jun/04/northern-ireland-police-cuts-mean-unsolved-troubles-cases-might-be-dropped

Austerity cuts are going to lead to police officers being taken off cases relating to unsolved crimes from the Troubles, Northern Ireland's Ch Con has warned.
George Hamilton, the head of the Police Service of Northern Ireland, has said that £20m cuts to his budget mean that he will have to transfer detectives away from historical cases stemming from the 1969–1997 conflict and on to current criminal inquiries. Nearly 4,000 people were killed during the conflict and tens of thousands were injured.
The move is likely to be controversial given that one of the key nationalist demands in the negotiations aimed at restoring power-sharing in the Stormont assembly is that special police structures are established to investigate thousands of killings in the Troubles, including those involving security forces.
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

Milltown Row2

Quote from: seafoid on June 04, 2017, 09:14:54 PM
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/jun/04/northern-ireland-police-cuts-mean-unsolved-troubles-cases-might-be-dropped

Austerity cuts are going to lead to police officers being taken off cases relating to unsolved crimes from the Troubles, Northern Ireland's Ch Con has warned.
George Hamilton, the head of the Police Service of Northern Ireland, has said that £20m cuts to his budget mean that he will have to transfer detectives away from historical cases stemming from the 1969–1997 conflict and on to current criminal inquiries. Nearly 4,000 people were killed during the conflict and tens of thousands were injured.
The move is likely to be controversial given that one of the key nationalist demands in the negotiations aimed at restoring power-sharing in the Stormont assembly is that special police structures are established to investigate thousands of killings in the Troubles, including those involving security forces.

All murders? will certainly mean a lot of republicans will be arrested
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

Owen Brannigan

Looks like Corbyn has changed his mind on shoot to kill by security forces.  Up until Saturday night's attack on he was adamant in his opposition always saying the terrorist should be arrested. Already the Tories have attacked his hypocrisy with new video record from BBC.  BTW the use of this BBC video will send Corbynistas mad as it involved Laura Kuenssberg

https://www.facebook.com/fawkespage/videos/897088353762504/

sid waddell

Great speech by Corbyn earlier.

The Tories have cut over 20,000 police, decimating community policing which is the eyes and ears of the police on the ground.

They lie over the number of armed police.

They have cultivated and enabled Islamist fighters in Libya and Syria.

They continue to sell arms and give succour to Saudi Arabia.

They continue to legitimise Islamist terrorism by claiming their in a war against it.

There is no possible solution to the problem of Islamist terrorism without getting rid of the Tories and those like them.


Theresa May was the home secretary who decimated Britain's ability to defend against these attacks. She is part of the problem. And there's no fooking way she should be let away with it. In a functioning press, the Tories' failures and enabling of terror would be the story for the rest of the campaign.


The coverage of Corbyn's speech by the BBC has been a disgrace, following Tory attack lines. But that's what the BBC does these days - it's now the BBC the Tories want, not a proper public service broadcaster. That' what years of threatening to take away the licence fee does.


seafoid

Quote from: sid waddell on June 04, 2017, 11:56:44 PM
Great speech by Corbyn earlier.

The Tories have cut over 20,000 police, decimating community policing which is the eyes and ears of the police on the ground.

They lie over the number of armed police.

They have cultivated and enabled Islamist fighters in Libya and Syria.

They continue to sell arms and give succour to Saudi Arabia.

They continue to legitimise Islamist terrorism by claiming their in a war against it.

There is no possible solution to the problem of Islamist terrorism without getting rid of the Tories and those like them.


Theresa May was the home secretary who decimated Britain's ability to defend against these attacks. She is part of the problem. And there's no fooking way she should be let away with it. In a functioning press, the Tories' failures and enabling of terror would be the story for the rest of the campaign.


The coverage of Corbyn's speech by the BBC has been a disgrace, following Tory attack lines. But that's what the BBC does these days - it's now the BBC the Tories want, not a proper public service broadcaster. That' what years of threatening to take away the licence fee does.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/jun/05/theresa-may-urged-not-to-suppress-report-into-funding-of-jihadi-groups
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

Avondhu star

Quote from: seafoid on June 04, 2017, 09:14:54 PM
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/jun/04/northern-ireland-police-cuts-mean-unsolved-troubles-cases-might-be-dropped

Austerity cuts are going to lead to police officers being taken off cases relating to unsolved crimes from the Troubles, Northern Ireland's Ch Con has warned.
George Hamilton, the head of the Police Service of Northern Ireland, has said that £20m cuts to his budget mean that he will have to transfer detectives away from historical cases stemming from the 1969–1997 conflict and on to current criminal inquiries. Nearly 4,000 people were killed during the conflict and tens of thousands were injured.
The move is likely to be controversial given that one of the key nationalist demands in the negotiations aimed at restoring power-sharing in the Stormont assembly is that special police structures are established to investigate thousands of killings in the Troubles, including those involving security forces.

Northern Ireland is well down the list of priorities of any British government, Labour led or Conservative led. You can be getting used to that fact
Lee Harvey Oswald , your country needs you


Minder

Quote from: AQMP on June 05, 2017, 09:55:03 AM
There have been 3 attacks in England in the last three months, yet we're still safer with a Tory government???

Do you think we would be any safer with a different government? Three fellas driving a van into people is hard to stop, as a few different countries have found out.
"When it's too tough for them, it's just right for us"

manfromdelmonte

people's views are being suppressed and censored

and at a public meeting!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEcMW6RmC_w