The IRISH RUGBY thread

Started by Donnellys Hollow, October 27, 2009, 05:26:16 PM

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Owen Brannigan

#5745
No sympathy after being beaten by 14 men. They can be shell shocked when pressurised.

Expect Scarlets 11 will not be playing much for quite a while. He even had the stupidity to exchange with the ref that he had guided Ringrose to the ground. Check out second video in this link:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/39914448

manfromdelmonte

He got off btw!

Munster are useless
So slow

Owen Brannigan

Munster humiliated on Irish soil by Scarlets. 

Munster 22-46 Scarlets

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/40056082

seafoid

Quote from: Owen Brannigan on May 27, 2017, 10:35:15 PM
Munster humiliated on Irish soil by Scarlets. 

Munster 22-46 Scarlets

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/40056082
It puts Connacht's achievement last year into perspective
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU


Owen Brannigan

Decision hardly made on performance v squad size and ability:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/40091871

mouview

Think Irish rugby's heyday could be receding. Starting to fall off the pace in the 6 Nations and clubs not cutting it in the Euro competitions as much. Just don't have the financial clout to compete with English/French clubs for the better players and a lack of visible high-profile success could turn youngsters back to the GAA in in creasing numbers.

Owen Brannigan

Quote from: mouview on May 30, 2017, 02:13:23 PM
Think Irish rugby's heyday could be receding. Starting to fall off the pace in the 6 Nations and clubs not cutting it in the Euro competitions as much. Just don't have the financial clout to compete with English/French clubs for the better players and a lack of visible high-profile success could turn youngsters back to the GAA in in creasing numbers.

To a game which is becoming increasingly boring at county level, its main shop window, with defensive systems on top and a widening schism between the top 5/6 counties who might win something and the rest as also rans.

Walter Cronc

Quote from: mouview on May 30, 2017, 02:13:23 PM
Think Irish rugby's heyday could be receding. Starting to fall off the pace in the 6 Nations and clubs not cutting it in the Euro competitions as much. Just don't have the financial clout to compete with English/French clubs for the better players and a lack of visible high-profile success could turn youngsters back to the GAA in in creasing numbers.

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D What a WUM!!!

Redhand Santa

#5754
Quote from: Owen Brannigan on May 30, 2017, 02:54:51 PM
Quote from: mouview on May 30, 2017, 02:13:23 PM
Think Irish rugby's heyday could be receding. Starting to fall off the pace in the 6 Nations and clubs not cutting it in the Euro competitions as much. Just don't have the financial clout to compete with English/French clubs for the better players and a lack of visible high-profile success could turn youngsters back to the GAA in in creasing numbers.

To a game which is becoming increasingly boring at county level, its main shop window, with defensive systems on top and a widening schism between the top 5/6 counties who might win something and the rest as also rans.

It's funny how the media and rugby fans try to paint it as this wonderful attacking game and have a go at gaelic football for being negative and defensive. A few points on this:

1) In football teams may get men behind the ball but they also break out and attack in numbers. In rugby there is 15 men behind the ball nearly all of the game.
2) In rugby the slowness of the game is summed by the fact that it is seen as an advantage to kick the ball out of play and is constantly stopped for the video ref.
3) People get easily fooled by the points system in rugby which can fool people into thinking its higher scoring than it is. Look at the stats from the games involving top teams in the 6 nations. Ireland beat England scoring 1 try and the rest were from 3 placed balls (the equivalent of kicking a free over in gaelic). England lost the game scoring 3 penalties. This was the same as what Ireland scoring in a game that lasted nearly 100 minutes v Wales.

Think about that people watched a game for 100 minutes in which all Ireland scored was the equivalent of kicking 3 free kicks over the bar. Compare that to the football championship in which nearly every game (played in less time) will have 25 scores and some much more.

And your coming on defending rugby over football on the basis that there is defensive systems in the gaa. It's a bit mad when you think about it.

The point about the 5 or 6 teams being better than the rest is also a bit muted when you consider there is only 4 teams in the whole of Ireland that the general rugby fan base has any interest in. And they cant even win a competition against smaller club teams from Scotland and Wales.


Walter Cronc

Quote from: Redhand Santa on May 30, 2017, 04:10:06 PM
Quote from: Owen Brannigan on May 30, 2017, 02:54:51 PM
Quote from: mouview on May 30, 2017, 02:13:23 PM
Think Irish rugby's heyday could be receding. Starting to fall off the pace in the 6 Nations and clubs not cutting it in the Euro competitions as much. Just don't have the financial clout to compete with English/French clubs for the better players and a lack of visible high-profile success could turn youngsters back to the GAA in in creasing numbers.

To a game which is becoming increasingly boring at county level, its main shop window, with defensive systems on top and a widening schism between the top 5/6 counties who might win something and the rest as also rans.

It's funny how the media and rugby fans try to paint it as this wonderful attacking game and have a go at gaelic football for being negative and defensive. A few points on this:

1) In football teams may get men behind the ball but they also break out and attack in numbers. In rugby there is 15 men behind the ball nearly all of the game.
2) In rugby the slowness of the game is summed by the fact that it is seen as an advantage to kick the ball out of play and is constantly stopped for the video ref.
3) People get easily fooled by the points system in rugby which can fool people into thinking its higher scoring than it is. Look at the stats from the games involving top teams in the 6 nations. Ireland beat England scoring 1 try and the rest were from 3 placed balls (the equivalent of kicking a free over in gaelic). England lost the game scoring 3 penalties. This was the same as what Ireland scoring in a game that lasted nearly 100 minutes v Wales.

Think about that people watched a game for 100 minutes in which all Ireland scored was the equivalent of kicking 3 free kicks over the bar. Compare that to the football championship in which nearly every game (played in less time) will have 25 scores and some much more.

And your coming on defending rugby over football on the basis that there is defensive systems in the gaa. It's a bit mad when you think about it.

The point about the 5 or 6 teams being better than the rest is also a bit muted when you consider there is only 4 teams in the whole of Ireland that the general rugby fan base has any interest in. And they cant even win a competition against smaller club teams from Scotland and Wales.



Have you played both rugby and GAA?

manfromdelmonte

the best rugby teams don't kick away the ball constantly

that's what munster and ireland tend to do

the best gaelic football teams kick the ball up the field quickly

Jim_Murphy_74

Quote from: Redhand Santa on May 30, 2017, 04:10:06 PM
The point about the 5 or 6 teams being better than the rest is also a bit muted when you consider there is only 4 teams in the whole of Ireland that the general rugby fan base has any interest in. And they cant even win a competition against smaller club teams from Scotland and Wales.

Since it's inception Irish times have won the Pro12 9 times (Leinster 4, Munster 3, Connacht 1, Ulster 1 ), Welsh teams 6 times and Scottish 1 time.  So arguably they can win it but not ever year.

/Jim.

seafoid

Quote from: mouview on May 30, 2017, 02:13:23 PM
Think Irish rugby's heyday could be receding. Starting to fall off the pace in the 6 Nations and clubs not cutting it in the Euro competitions as much. Just don't have the financial clout to compete with English/French clubs for the better players and a lack of visible high-profile success could turn youngsters back to the GAA in in creasing numbers.
I think it dépends what kind of rugby is played by the Irish teams. In terms of Bosh concussion bosh you are probably right but something more flaithiulach a la Connacht 2016 would have more of a chance of success.

Beirne who played for Scarlets is interesting. He wouldn't have made the Leinster team and is not supposed to see a rugby future outside of Ireland.
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

The Subbie

Quote from: seafoid on May 30, 2017, 08:08:44 PM
Quote from: mouview on May 30, 2017, 02:13:23 PM
Think Irish rugby's heyday could be receding. Starting to fall off the pace in the 6 Nations and clubs not cutting it in the Euro competitions as much. Just don't have the financial clout to compete with English/French clubs for the better players and a lack of visible high-profile success could turn youngsters back to the GAA in in creasing numbers.
I think it dépends what kind of rugby is played by the Irish teams. In terms of Bosh concussion bosh you are probably right but something more flaithiulach a la Connacht 2016 would have more of a chance of success.

Beirne who played for Scarlets is interesting. He wouldn't have made the Leinster team and is not supposed to see a rugby future outside of Ireland.

Exactly, then you read the comments about him and see pricks like this lad

A 10/1 shot to still be there in 18/19 season. Will be back at Leinster, and will be a great re-signing.

And the Leinster goys wonder why people gloat at their misfortune!!