Managers - "outside" versus "inside"

[Owenmoresider]

In Football..

Antrim have had Liam Bradley at least.
Donegal? Mickey Moran, Brian McIver
Derry? Brian Mullins
Cavan? see rodney's post & Eamon Coleman
Fermanagh - Peter Canavan, Pete McGrath, John Maughan, Charlie Mulgrew, Malachy O'Rourke
Down? none
Armagh? Paddy O'Rourke
Monaghan? Colm Coyle
Tyrone? none

Louth - O'Rourke, Val Andrews
Meath - Banty
Dublin? none
Wicklow - Micko, Johnny Magee
Wexford - Jason Ryan, Davey Power, Pat Roe
Carlow - Rainbow, Bealin, Pat Roe, Liam Hayes, Luke Dempsey
Laois - Micko, O'Flaherta, Justin McNulty
Kildare - McGeeney, Jason Ryan, Micko!!! Dermot Earley too, though he was based there for years
Offaly - Numerous but Lyons, Hackett, Roe, Cribbin to name a few
Westmeath - Numerous, but Flanagan, Lowry, O'Flaherta, Paidí, Bealin
Longford - Glen Ryan, Coleman? Luke Dempsey

Sligo - Kevin Walsh, Flanagan, Carew, Moran, Forde, PJ Carroll, Corrigan, Tommy Jordan
Galway - Kernan, O Flatharta, Forde, O'Mahony
Mayo - Mickey Moran, Jack O'Shea, O'Mahony 
Leitrim - Dessie Dolan, Mickey Moran, O'Mahony, Peter McGinnity, Declan Rowley
Ros - Evans, Tommy Carr, John Maughan

Kerry - ? none
Cork - ? none
Tipp - John Evans. Creedon is from Cork, but is a naturalised Tipp man.
Waterford - Tom McGlinchey
Limerick - Kearns
Clare - Paidí, Micko, Maughan

Hurling (Liam McCarthy counties)

Antrim - Liam Cahill
Galway - John McIntyre? Although he's naturalised Galway I suppose. Loughnane, Babs way back when.
Offaly - Numerous, Bond, Healy, Cregan, Baker
Laois - Babs? Teddy McCarthy
Kilkenny? probably none, hasn't been an issue for them since 1998 oddly enough.
Wexford - Cyril Farrell
Dubs - A few at least, Daly, Cunningham

Clare - Len Gaynor
Tipp - ?
Cork - ?
Waterford - Davey Fitz, McCarthy x 2
Limerick - O'Grady (x2), Pad Joe Whelehan? Justin McCarthy


Where are the gaps?

[Sonny Joe]

Mc Ivor is from Ardboe

[blewuporstuffed]

I seem to recall Breheny, taking a break from bemoaning the emptiness of Croke Park on big rugby days in D4, saying that Tyrone have never had an outside manager. In football.

John Donnelly managed Tyrone in the 90's.
Fermanagh man

Did he not play for Trillick?

[FermGael]

I seem to recall Breheny, taking a break from bemoaning the emptiness of Croke Park on big rugby days in D4, saying that Tyrone have never had an outside manager. In football.

John Donnelly managed Tyrone in the 90's.
Fermanagh man

Did he not play for Trillick?

Captained Fermanagh in the 1970s.
Originally from Coa
Did play for Trillick as he moved there..

[twohands!!!]

I seem to recall Breheny, taking a break from bemoaning the emptiness of Croke Park on big rugby days in D4, saying that Tyrone have never had an outside manager. In football.

John Donnelly managed Tyrone in the 90's.
Fermanagh man

John Donnelly played for Trillick long enough to be considered a Tyrone man, the same way that Malachy O'Rourke's residency in the Clogher Valley will make him one of our own when his time comes.

Given he captained Fermanagh I think he has to be viewed as an outsider.

[muppet]

In Football..

Antrim have had Liam Bradley at least.
Donegal? Mickey Moran, Brian McIver
Derry? Brian Mullins
Cavan? see rodney's post & Eamon Coleman
Fermanagh - Peter Canavan, Pete McGrath, John Maughan, Charlie Mulgrew, Malachy O'Rourke
Down? none
Armagh? Paddy O'Rourke
Monaghan? Colm Coyle
Tyrone? none

Louth - O'Rourke, Val Andrews
Meath - Banty
Dublin? none
Wicklow - Micko, Johnny Magee
Wexford - Jason Ryan, Davey Power, Pat Roe
Carlow - Rainbow, Bealin, Pat Roe, Liam Hayes, Luke Dempsey
Laois - Micko, O'Flaherta, Justin McNulty
Kildare - McGeeney, Jason Ryan, Micko!!! Dermot Earley too, though he was based there for years
Offaly - Numerous but Lyons, Hackett, Roe, Cribbin to name a few
Westmeath - Numerous, but Flanagan, Lowry, O'Flaherta, Paidí, Bealin
Longford - Glen Ryan, Coleman? Luke Dempsey

Sligo - Kevin Walsh, Flanagan, Carew, Moran, Forde, PJ Carroll, Corrigan, Tommy Jordan
Galway - Kernan, O Flatharta, Forde, O'Mahony
Mayo - Mickey Moran, Jack O'Shea, O'Mahony 
Leitrim - Dessie Dolan, Mickey Moran, O'Mahony, Peter McGinnity, Declan Rowley
Ros - Evans, Tommy Carr, John Maughan

Kerry - ? none
Cork - ? none
Tipp - John Evans. Creedon is from Cork, but is a naturalised Tipp man.
Waterford - Tom McGlinchey
Limerick - Kearns
Clare - Paidí, Micko, Maughan

Hurling (Liam McCarthy counties)

Antrim - Liam Cahill
Galway - John McIntyre? Although he's naturalised Galway I suppose. Loughnane, Babs way back when.
Offaly - Numerous, Bond, Healy, Cregan, Baker
Laois - Babs? Teddy McCarthy
Kilkenny? probably none, hasn't been an issue for them since 1998 oddly enough.
Wexford - Cyril Farrell
Dubs - A few at least, Daly, Cunningham

Clare - Len Gaynor
Tipp - ?
Cork - ?
Waterford - Davey Fitz, McCarthy x 2
Limerick - O'Grady (x2), Pad Joe Whelehan? Justin McCarthy


Where are the gaps?

John O'Mahony is from Kilmovee which is in Co. Mayo now, was in Co. Mayo 1898 and always played its football in Mayo. As far as I am aware, he didn't harbour a secret desire to play for the Rossie Globebussers.

[Croí na hÉireann]

Mattie Kerrigan (Eastmeath) 1992-1995
Barney Rock (Dublin) 1995-1997
Brendan Lowry (Offaly) 1997–2000
Luke Dempsey (Mullingar resident, Kildare native) 2000–2003
Paidí Ó Sé (Kerry) 2003–2005
Tomás Ó Flatharta (Kerry) 2005–2009
Brendan Hackett (Monaghan) 2009–2010
Pat Flanagan (Offaly) 2010–2013
Paul Bealin (Dublin) 2013–2014
Tom Cribben (Kildare) 2014–

[twohands!!!]

Mattie Kerrigan (Eastmeath) 1992-1995
Barney Rock (Dublin) 1995-1997
Brendan Lowry (Offaly) 1997–2000
Luke Dempsey (Mullingar resident, Kildare native) 2000–2003
Paidí Ó Sé (Kerry) 2003–2005
Tomás Ó Flatharta (Kerry) 2005–2009
Brendan Hackett (Monaghan) 2009–2010
Pat Flanagan (Offaly) 2010–2013
Paul Bealin (Dublin) 2013–2014
Tom Cribben (Kildare) 2014–

Jeez that's some run - 23 years 

[AZOffaly]

When was the last Westmeath man? I know Dessie Dolan Snr has been a candidate, and I know there's been a fair few backroom guys from Westmeath, like Ollie Keating from Athlone. Actually, maybe the incident between him and Dessie Dolan Jnr is the reason why there's been no Westmeath managers recently

[screenexile]

Derry - Brian Mullins & Brian McIver

Brian Mullins was a terrible manager from what I can remember and McIver at least is there at the minute and can do something about his poor record thus far!

[twohands!!!]

The insider only counties so are

Football
Down
Dublin
Kerry
Cork

Although Dublin have Tommy Lyons and Cork have Larry Tompkins, who look a bit questionable

Hurling
Kilkenny
Tipperary
Cork

[deiseach]

I seem to recall Breheny, taking a break from bemoaning the emptiness of Croke Park on big rugby days in D4, saying that Tyrone have never had an outside manager. In football.

John Donnelly managed Tyrone in the 90's.
Fermanagh man

Breheny wrong. Shocked, I tells ya, shocked!

[Stall the Bailer]

In Football..

Antrim have had Liam Bradley at least.
Donegal?
Derry?
Cavan?
Fermanagh - Peter Canavan, Pete McGrath
Down?
Armagh?
Monaghan?
Tyrone?

Louth - O'Rourke
Meath - Banty
Dublin?
Wicklow - Micko
Wexford - Jason Ryan, Davey Power
Carlow - Rainbow, Bealin?
Laois - Micko, O'Flaherta
Kildare - McGeeney, Jason Ryan
Offaly - Numerous but Lyons, Hackett, Roe, Cribbin to name a few
Westmeath - Numerous, but Flanagan, Lowry, O'Flaherta, Paudie
Longford - Glen Ryan

Sligo - Kevin Walsh and others as outlined by Seanie
Galway - Kernan
Mayo - Mickey Moran
Leitrim - Dessie Dolan
Ros - Evans

Kerry - ?
Cork - ?
Tipp - John Evans. Creedon is from Cork, but is a naturalised Tipp man.
Waterford - Tom McGlinchey
Limerick - Kearns
Clare - Paudie?

Hurling (Liam McCarthy counties)

Antrim - Liam Cahill
Galway - John McIntyre? Although he's naturalised Galway I suppose.
Offaly - Numerous, Bond, Healy, Cregan, Baker
Laois - Babs?
Kilkenny?
Wexford - Cyril Farrell
Dubs - A few at least, Daly, Cunningham

Clare - Len Gaynor
Tipp - ?
Cork - ?
Waterford - Davey Fitz
Limerick - O'Grady (x2)


Where are the gaps?

Derry's and Donegal's current managers are outsiders

you reckon?

Brian Mullans for a couple of years in the 90's would be Derry's only blow in...cant think of any others

See the other replies, he is a Tyrone man.

[Sonny Joe]

Derry - Brian Mullins & Brian McIver

Brian Mullins was a terrible manager from what I can remember and McIver at least is there at the minute and can do something about his poor record thus far!

the quint essential Derry supporter

Brian Mullins won an Ulster championship and a National league with Derry , but he was terrible according to SE

[cockahoop]

Derry - Brian Mullins & Brian McIver

Brian Mullins was a terrible manager from what I can remember and McIver at least is there at the minute and can do something about his poor record thus far!

are you serious?he won us a national league and our last ulster title..not that bad imo