Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on May 21, 2024, 11:15:17 PMQuote from: Lubo Moravcik on May 21, 2024, 09:58:47 PMQuote from: Itchy on May 21, 2024, 09:30:43 PMQuote from: Lubo Moravcik on May 21, 2024, 09:15:30 PMQuote from: Itchy on May 21, 2024, 08:45:33 PMThere is, as far as I'm aware, no evidence of this gang rape/mass rape thing. Its also pretty much accepted that Israel shot up a large amount of their own people. If they gave a damn about hostages they would gave negotiated their release, instead they carpet bombed civilian areas. You need to think of Israel as Nazis to understand the evil you are dealing with here.
I have no doubt that Israel wilfully murder and starve Palestinians - it's clear from their actions.
Though hasn't the ICC also accepted that Hamas fighters used sexual violence? I'd imagine they must have seen evidence before stating such.
Maybe they have, they've certainly said Hamas has a case to answer on it. But I've not seen any evidence from reliable sources and in fact some of the initial witnesses stating this were shown to be very unreliable. I would have thought it surely would've been out there for all to see if evidence was available. A bit like the weapons and tunnels in hospitals, none of it ever surfaced.
Israel's exaggerated reports of sexual violence are unbelievable but if the ICC are also citing it in their case agains the leadership of Hamas I'm inclined to think there must have been some level of truth in the original reports of rapes occurring.
The 'human shield' thing Israel use against Hamas I find ridiculous. Israel has never cared about harming civilians so what use are they as any type of shield.
https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/ali-abunimah/icc-has-no-evidence-7-october-rapes-documents-indicate
Sorry but "My office continues to investigate reports of sexual violence committed on Oct 7th' does not mean that it did not occur. Did Israel tell lies about the scale of it? I would say yes. Did rape occur? I'll wait for the ICC investigation to reach a conclusion on that.
The ICC seems to possess evidence that rape occurred in captivity, however the Electronic Intifada article is very causally dismissive of that:
"But does that mean that Khan possesses enough evidence of rapes and sexual violence against Israelis in captivity to warrant charges against Hamas leaders?
Obviously, we have not seen all the evidence that Khan claims to possess, but despite that we can fairly confidently assess that he does not."
I mean, come on, 'we can fairly confidently assess' - can you? How exactly?