Homophobia and racism in Ireland

[ziggysego]

What is wrong with believing that homophobia is wrong?

Ask Iris.

Iris never thought it was wrong. In fact, that was her belief.

[muppet]

What is wrong with believing that homophobia is wrong?

Ask Iris.

Iris never thought it was wrong. In fact, that was her belief.

Yes but if you believe it is wrong who better to ask than one of it's main proponents?

[118cmal]

Another problem is a lot of people don't understand what the words mean. On the board here a few weeks ago a poster expressed his dislike of some black person (can't remember who it was). Another idiot said he was being racist, but the views were not expressed because of the man's colour and did not refer to his colour. 
Do people think that it is homophobic to feel squemish-uncomfortable (not sure what word to use) at the sight of two men snogging?

I find it uncomfortable, but I also feel this way when I see heterosexual couples snogging.

[longrunsthefox]

Another problem is a lot of people don't understand what the words mean. On the board here a few weeks ago a poster expressed his dislike of some black person (can't remember who it was). Another idiot said he was being racist, but the views were not expressed because of the man's colour and did not refer to his colour. 
Do people think that it is homophobic to feel squemish-uncomfortable (not sure what word to use) at the sight of two men snogging?

I find it uncomfortable, but I also feel this way when I see heterosexual couples snogging.

Two women kissing is nice tho   

[ludermor]

Two women kissing is nice tho   

Oh Really!!!!

[longrunsthefox]

Nice one centurian, not quite what I had in mind tho 

[SuperMac]

What is wrong with believing that homophobia is wrong?

Ask Iris.

I've read of serious attacks in Dublin on the gays. Remember reading a post by a gay man who was walking up Henry Street ( pedestrian street runs down one side of the GPO ) and two fellas grabbed him by the arms, twisting and yanking them behind his back, kicked his feet from under him causing him to smash his face off the ground as he couldn't put his hands out to break the fall. They then lashed into him with a serious of kicks and punches. The psycholoigacl effect on him was very frightening and I'd say a deep lifelong scar on him.

Watched on TV3 a gay man who was attacked at Christchurch, beat him to a pulp. He managed to break free and ran for it. Ran to a taxi at the lights with the others chasing him, taxi driver wouldn't let him into car. Other taxi came along, pulled up and ordered him to jump in and took him directly to hospital. It's only a matter fo time until one of them are killed. I think their was a man kicked to death up jn the Phoneix Park back in the late 70's. He wasn't gay but a gang of little scumbags thought he was.

[AZOffaly]

Were those attacks because he was gay (how did they know?) or was it because they were simply scumbags on the prowl?

[SuperMac]

Were those attacks because he was gay (how did they know?) or was it because they were simply scumbags on the prowl?

I think they followed them after leaving a gay bar. The attack on Henry Street - their's a gay bar on Capel St which is at the bottom of Henry St. The attack in Christchurch - probably followed him form the gay bar on Gerorge's St. Maybe this isn't politically correct but to be honest, sometimes the gays are easy to pick out, you know, the effemitive hairdresser type.

[Zapatista]

I know two blokes who used to go 'gay bashing' as they called it. It was prob back in the late 70s/early 80s. Picked on he wrong gays one time and got themselves a merciless kicking. That was the end of their 'gay bashing' days.

[muppet]

What is wrong with believing that homophobia is wrong?

Ask Iris.

I've read of serious attacks in Dublin on the gays. Remember reading a post by a gay man who was walking up Henry Street ( pedestrian street runs down one side of the GPO ) and two fellas grabbed him by the arms, twisting and yanking them behind his back, kicked his feet from under him causing him to smash his face off the ground as he couldn't put his hands out to break the fall. They then lashed into him with a serious of kicks and punches. The psycholoigacl effect on him was very frightening and I'd say a deep lifelong scar on him.

Watched on TV3 a gay man who was attacked at Christchurch, beat him to a pulp. He managed to break free and ran for it. Ran to a taxi at the lights with the others chasing him, taxi driver wouldn't let him into car. Other taxi came along, pulled up and ordered him to jump in and took him directly to hospital. It's only a matter fo time until one of them are killed. I think their was a man kicked to death up jn the Phoneix Park back in the late 70's. He wasn't gay but a gang of little scumbags thought he was.

Fairview I think.

[Fiodoir Ard Mhacha]

Were those attacks because he was gay (how did they know?) or was it because they were simply scumbags on the prowl?

I think they followed them after leaving a gay bar. The attack on Henry Street - their's a gay bar on Capel St which is at the bottom of Henry St. The attack in Christchurch - probably followed him form the gay bar on Gerorge's St. Maybe this isn't politically correct but to be honest, sometimes the gays are easy to pick out, you know, the effemitive hairdresser type.

Jesus, I know you put in a caveat, but like sometimes it's easy to pick out the black guys.

[The Iceman]

I don't have a problem with gay people.  I have a problem if a gay person is outwardly over the top flamboyantly gay and wants everyone to know.  Your business is your business so keep it that way.
I don't have a problem with other races but if a black man takes my spot in the car park I'll still be pissed off and racist thoughts may automatically spring to mind.

My biggest fear is that we become so politically correct that we are not allowed to think for ourselves anymore. 

[mayogodhelpus@gmail.com]

I hate the Franco phobia that I see in Ireland (long before Thierry Henry & that is not reason enough for it either). The Irish are watching too much British bigotry towards the French on British TV and also American anti-French feeling (just because the French stand up to them and their illegal wars) in American film.

[muppet]

Other than the Henry incident i have seen little or no anti-French activity or commentary.

Some taxidrivers let themselves down wrt to foreigners but mostly Ireland is ok. I think it is popular to run ourselves down in some way or other.