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So 7 of the suspensions have been overturned? Really? So only 3 Armagh players have been deemed to do anything wrong? What charges were levelled against the other 7 oringinally? How have they got off? Clarity is needed here because the next time a game descends into a full scale brawl we need to know what we can't and can do?? I need to tell my underage lads what the dos and don'ts are as they wade into a field fight. The GAA disciplinary system is a complete joke. How many more of these embarrassing appeals needs to happen before the GAA have the balls to re-write the fecking rule book and close loopholes and implement huge extensions to bans for unsuccessful appeals?

I find it laughable that so many Tyrone people are slating Armagh and the circus around these suspensions! We wrote the book on appeals and won a few allirelands on the back of it, also for clarity ref. Fergal Logan!

Tyrone started the fight and Armagh finished it, so dont give me this high moral ground cr@p! If our lads directed by their brainless management had continued to play football instead of getting involved in the usual shit of goading etc etc, and then overstepping the mark by hitting an opponent, we would now be calling Armagh sore losers! We even embarassed ourselves even more by appealing the result, how long can we stoop?!

This whole debacle has taken away from the game itself, which should be replayed on tv (possibly tg4 as others wont bother) as it was 1 of the finest games you are likely to see!

Time to close this thread!!!

Couple of simple observations:
The weather wasnt great and neither was the pitch;
We played with 14men;
No Colm Cav;
McAliskey not fully match sharp;

Now taking this into account no shock we didnt win.

BUT  the simple fact is we are poor to watch! By this time every year we have the Mckenna Cup in the trophy cabinet and that lulls everyone into great sense that this year is  the year and Mickey is thee man! At what stage do those burying their heads pull them out! Tomas Ose got right last night, let the lads play! If we are to get beat at least have a go!

All that said i believe we could beat the dubs in the swamp! And Mickey will get 10yr extension!!

I still can't get over the atmosphere at Tyrone games this year, esp in the Ulster semi v Donegal and final v Down.

The atmosphere was dead. It was like sitting down for a show in the Lyric. You could hear the players shout. Tyrone were so orderly and methodical and successful. But no sense of genius like Mulligan or O'Neill or Canavan.

Rubbish, the atmosphere was dead because we were hammering teams.

The 1st half against Down wasn't a hammering and the atmosphere was dead!

[tyrone have to send a delegate to speak to rte]

heard today that only 4 clubs voted against harte. landslide victory for him. amazing really when u see the oppostion on internet forums. certain stipulations on his new contract though, tyrone have to send a delegate to speak to rte and his backroom team has to be reduced. i wonder who will get the chop?

That was expected before but players collectively decided not to speak...  if you're to believe that 

Of course they did!! Then when the captain walks out of the changing rooms for last time he runs straight into the arms if RTE!!!

Sure just say Sean is the press Rep, he wont mind chatting to them!

his appearance now totally casts doubts on the point of this RTE ban...

I wonder is he still observing the alcohol ban and the ban on unhealthy food. I wonder is he still following the fitness programme he agreed to follow! Grow up ffs. As part of the team he observes the team etiquette, he's not part of that anymore and he clearly wants a career in the media so he'd be mad to turn down the opportunity. How long should he wait to satisfy the faceless (small) minority, who clearly have no influence in their clubs, who shout very loud on Internet forums?

Jesus wept! Drink bans etc are not optional to play inter-county football. Not chatting to a national broadcaster due to issues the manager has is due to the manager ruling with an iron-fist! How is not doing interviews part of a teams etiquette?!? Sean retired then walked out of the changing room and picked up the PR baton, if he had any real allegiances to the Fuhrer he wouldnt have spoken to Rte and defo not last night! It makes a mockery of this one-foe-all crap!

Yes MH is an allireland wining manager which we should be forever indebted to, but his time was up 3-4yrs ago! He is a hypocrite who takes "principled" stances on issues that some have nothing to do with football but he always brings it back to Tyrone football. Any issues he has personally (and that includes RTE) should not interfere with Tyrone football! There is no reason why a young lad who wins a MOTM award cant go out and receive his award, petty to say the least! I would say a few of these younger lads who cant/wont step out of line will regret it in a few years time not receiving their awards. If there are Allstars handed out to Tyrone and Sean gets 1 and a few others, so Sean can talk to Rte but the rest cant!?? Farcical!

3 more years of Groundhog Day! But at least we can enjoy another McKenna Cup! That's what memories are made of!

[tyrone have to send a delegate to speak to rte]

heard today that only 4 clubs voted against harte. landslide victory for him. amazing really when u see the oppostion on internet forums. certain stipulations on his new contract though, tyrone have to send a delegate to speak to rte and his backroom team has to be reduced. i wonder who will get the chop?

That was expected before but players collectively decided not to speak...  if you're to believe that 

Of course they did!! Then when the captain walks out of the changing rooms for last time he runs straight into the arms if RTE!!!

Sure just say Sean is the press Rep, he wont mind chatting to them!

Some amount of nonsense talked here about Harte being "found out".

If winning 5 of the 8 cups on offer in the last 2 seasons, back to back Ulsters and staying in division 1 is "being found out" then long may we continue to be found out.

Ffs it was one game against Dublin... we go again in 2018.

Good God are you seriously counting mckenna cup and that other mickey mouse blitz in Cross?? Embarassing! If mickeys is targetting winning these to keep his crown we may all forget about it! Then again we are the kings of the mckenna cup! Imagine the backlash if we didnt retain it next year?!

And its not about it being "one game agsinst dublin", we all know mickey has been justifying his drab tactics to build to play the Dubs, that what it has taken c.3yrs to "perfect"!

Give over with your style of football nonsense.

The only style of football Tyrone fans should be interested in is a winning style of football.

Substance over style, always.

I completely agree, Tyrone should concentrate on a WINNING style, but somebody should tell Mickey that. He has spent years perfecting this current style and it took the Dubs less than 10mins to rip it apart. Forwards are being ruined, bereft of confidence, we could go on......

But 3 more years we have! Ah well, another lost generation......

Some amount of nonsense talked here about Harte being "found out".

If winning 5 of the 8 cups on offer in the last 2 seasons, back to back Ulsters and staying in division 1 is "being found out" then long may we continue to be found out.

Ffs it was one game against Dublin... we go again in 2018.

Good God are you seriously counting mckenna cup and that other mickey mouse blitz in Cross?? Embarassing! If mickeys is targetting winning these to keep his crown we may all forget about it! Then again we are the kings of the mckenna cup! Imagine the backlash if we didnt retain it next year?!

And its not about it being "one game agsinst dublin", we all know mickey has been justifying his drab tactics to build to play the Dubs, that what it has taken c.3yrs to "perfect"!

 McGeeney! 12wks. Considering Davy got 8wks what did he do to get 12??

Mickey will be fielding his strongest team from now on. Mark Bradley and the other college players will be in the squad sunday.Results are what matters now to siience his detractors and to extend his tenure.

And therein lies the issue, MH goes out to win mckenna cup to extend his tenure!! Unbelieveable. Have we set our standards that low?

considering that for four years between 2012 -2015 inclusive the mc kenna cup is the only trophy we lifted i think its safe to say its whats been keeping mickey in the job. im sure some day people will realise  its what happens at the business end of the championship that really matters.

Lets get real from '08 to '16 nothing of any note was won! MH has targetted winning the McKenna Cup and I read an article once where he was basically trying to justify his position by spouting about the number of trophies that had been won during his tenure, and that included the O'Fiaich Cup and numerous prestigious McKenna Cups!! Nothing less than retaining Div1, Ulster championship and at least a final appearance in Sept will be progress this year! How long does he need to "re-build" after '08??



Do you guys genuinely believe that the McKenna Cup has kept Mickey in his job? Seriously, Do you really think that's how these things work? Or do you think it may have been the two all Ireland semi final appearances during that time in 2013 and 2015 following the promotion to div 1 in 2012 and the appearance in a div 1 league final in 2013? That's not bad progress in a four year period. During that era do you think we had better players than Dublin, Donegal and Kerry? Did we seriously underperform to warrant a change of manager or, on reflection, was there just a few better teams than us?

Mickey will be fielding his strongest team from now on. Mark Bradley and the other college players will be in the squad sunday.Results are what matters now to siience his detractors and to extend his tenure.

And therein lies the issue, MH goes out to win mckenna cup to extend his tenure!! Unbelieveable. Have we set our standards that low?

Harte saying game at weekend against Jordanstown is critical  Why do they try to hype up this nonsense?

So he can provide a reason for putting out full strength team against a university, while other counties throw out u21s and last years subs! Oh and of course to provide sound-bites so he can put his mug in the papers and the news is about him!

I see Harte on about McCarron's book saying so many on the moral high ground will be in danger of falling off. Moral high ground? Harte sure does irony 

You need to read and clarify before you comment Longballin. He said people that are perfect ie no one basically would need to watch they don't mess up or make any mistakes in their lives. He is right, who are you or anyone to judge anyone for that matter in life ?

his use of moral high ground was priceless.... lecturing on forgiveness (apart from RTE of course), religion, the rosary and a range of other subjects 

Have to agree, sick of listening to MH spout on about morals and principles etc! On another

What the odds on him being a president of Eire at some stage?! Although he'd have to maybe chat to RTE to do that!

Anyway, hopefully Conor gets the treatment he needs and doesn't rush coming back! A quality forward that Tyrone badly need at the minute, a class act!

i like the sound of the whole harte/mayo thing. maybe if it happens we might actually beat mayo in championship next year.lol. so tyrone have basically named their championship panel for mc kenna cup bar a few players. but be under no illusion guys, the mc kenna cup smokescreen will not work this year. 2017 is the year of judgement.

Losing the ofiach cup has obviously hurt MH, going all out for Mckenna Cup AGAIN FFS! A few counties have fielded primarily u21 teams in the past eg Monaghan and Donegal and it hasnt done them any harm! Agreed 2017 is big year,we cant be rebuilding for 10yrs!!!!

Surprised to see Sean Cavanagh, no need really involving him at this stage is there?

Why would you be surprised? MH goes to win it every year! Sure only for the McKenna Cup he'd have been packed off years ago

Tyrone 3rd team was out yesterday

Just a small bit insulting I suppose.

Armagh were hardly at full strength, whatever that is! And as for MH coming out and saying he had an inexperienced team playing a seasoned team, wise up!

Hope he tries more new lads in McKenna Cup and give lads a game instead of this must-win approach and get dumped on our rears in July or August cos lads didnt get game time!