The OFFICIAL Liverpool FC thread - #DankeJürgen

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J70

Quote from: jcpen on April 24, 2024, 09:44:54 PM
Quote from: J70 on April 24, 2024, 09:31:47 PMIt's a shame. It's going to peter out for Klopp.


Would you as a Liverpool fan have taken a trophy win,a top 4 finish and a  return to Champions League football and title challenge at the start of the season?

I suppose it would have been considered a decent season if Klopp hadn't announced he was leaving which only seems to have made everyone think only a quad or treble at the very least would be considered a success in his final season, certainly some other clubs would have been happy with what Liverpool will end the season with.

As a neutral I'll be sorry to see Klopp leave the league.

From where Liverpool were last May, of course I would have taken top 4, a trophy and a title challenge.

But you take it as it comes. A quad or treble was never realistically on, but Liverpool were in a really strong position a few weeks ago in the league, which is what fans REALLY care about. Now the last month of the season, once top 4 is sealed,  will simply be a case of fulfilling fixtures, and Klopp's farewell will be a lot hollower then it might have been had they at least taken it to the final weekend.

Tony Baloney

Quote from: J70 on April 24, 2024, 09:51:40 PM
Quote from: jcpen on April 24, 2024, 09:44:54 PM
Quote from: J70 on April 24, 2024, 09:31:47 PMIt's a shame. It's going to peter out for Klopp.


Would you as a Liverpool fan have taken a trophy win,a top 4 finish and a  return to Champions League football and title challenge at the start of the season?

I suppose it would have been considered a decent season if Klopp hadn't announced he was leaving which only seems to have made everyone think only a quad or treble at the very least would be considered a success in his final season, certainly some other clubs would have been happy with what Liverpool will end the season with.

As a neutral I'll be sorry to see Klopp leave the league.

From where Liverpool were last May, of course I would have taken top 4, a trophy and a title challenge.

But you take it as it comes. A quad or treble was never realistically on, but Liverpool were in a really strong position a few weeks ago in the league, which is what fans REALLY care about. Now the last month of the season, once top 4 is sealed,  will simply be a case of fulfilling fixtures, and Klopp's farewell will be a lot hollower then it might have been had they at least taken it to the final weekend.
Definitely going out with a whimper. I think everyone hoped they'd keep the pressure on til the end but seem to have given up

armaghniac

Quote from: Armamike on April 24, 2024, 01:43:04 PMLooks like Slot in for Klopp.  I don't know too much about him, but that doesn't mean much.

I'm sure that he will slot in nicely.
If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

Jell 0 Biafra

Quote from: NAG1 on April 24, 2024, 02:28:45 PMIs this the guy that Spurs were in for prior to Big Ange, if memory serves, he turned them down.

So he's smart at any rate.

gawa316

Performances over the last month or so have resembled a lot of last season

johnnycool

Quote from: gawa316 on April 24, 2024, 11:00:46 PMPerformances over the last month or so have resembled a lot of last season

Liverpool need a really strong character like Big Ange TBH.

It's a pressure position with roaring expectation and a few results going awry early doors could impact most managers, bit Ange seems to take most things in his stride, similar to Klopp.

Milltown Row2

Quote from: johnnycool on April 25, 2024, 08:34:19 AM
Quote from: gawa316 on April 24, 2024, 11:00:46 PMPerformances over the last month or so have resembled a lot of last season

Liverpool need a really strong character like Big Ange TBH.

It's a pressure position with roaring expectation and a few results going awry early doors could impact most managers, bit Ange seems to take most things in his stride, similar to Klopp.

With the departure of Klopp and what usually follows when such a big manager leaves, there won't be too many that will want to take the reigns too early.

Will any players see this as an opportunity to move on? The success of Jude at Real Madrid can certainly give players like Trent a taste of other challenges and improve him further
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

Turf

Quote from: gawa316 on April 24, 2024, 11:00:46 PMPerformances over the last month or so have resembled a lot of last season
Klopp said around November time he felt the team were playing above what he had expected after introducing new players.
Maybe this is just the drop off after over exceeding early on?
Never felt they would win the league tbh but did expect them to win the Europa League.
Don't know anything about Slot or the Portuguese guy either, interesting summer ahead.

Captain Scarlet

Spending big on Van Djik and Allison was neccesary and they were class acts, but the lads up top cost a fair few quid and are hit and miss.

Nunez was massive money and can't be trusted. Gakpo, Diaz and Jota also were not cheap. The finishing is what's killing Liverpool in recent times.

At the back Konate is just not good enough but they didn't ever look at buying decent cover when Gomez and Matip are walking sick notes. At the time there was a the big crisis the lure of Klopp could have got a solid player in on frees or short term.

I know Klopp doesn't have City's money but the spending has not been great.
them mysterons are always killing me but im grand after a few days.sickenin aul dose all the same.

Milltown Row2

Is it time to get rid of VVD? Doesn't seem like he enjoys the games, is the captaincy too much for him?
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

Look-Up!

VVD plays in a vital position. Still has plenty to give and a natural leader. I think it would be too risky to get rid, unless his heart not in it and he wants away himself. Earns 150k less than Salah, who I think is a big problem going forward not only because of his poor form, but he's putting massive upward pressure on future wage negotiations, be that existing contract renewals or new signings. 

statto

Quote from: NAG1 on April 24, 2024, 02:28:45 PMIs this the guy that Spurs were in for prior to Big Ange, if memory serves, he turned them down.
That's him.  Dutch and bald doesn't give me good vibes!

johnnycool

Quote from: Look-Up! on April 25, 2024, 11:42:27 AMVVD plays in a vital position. Still has plenty to give and a natural leader. I think it would be too risky to get rid, unless his heart not in it and he wants away himself. Earns 150k less than Salah, who I think is a big problem going forward not only because of his poor form, but he's putting massive upward pressure on future wage negotiations, be that existing contract renewals or new signings. 

Bank the Saudi cash for Salah and go for Ivan Toney, seriously rate that lad, he'll get 20 plus a year on a good team.

Salah is bang out of form, there's no doubting that, but Liverpools main assists used to come from wide, TTA and Robertson, TAA injured quite a lot this year and so has Robertson, who's been below par as well.

Carragher has given up on Nunez, seems to think he'll not get any better than what he is now and although his rates of scoring from really good chances is poor, surely that's something that still can be worked on, no?

Gakpo looked a bit better the last few games, probably missed last night, but not complaining..

statto

Quote from: Captain Scarlet on April 25, 2024, 10:50:44 AMSpending big on Van Djik and Allison was neccesary and they were class acts, but the lads up top cost a fair few quid and are hit and miss.

Nunez was massive money and can't be trusted. Gakpo, Diaz and Jota also were not cheap. The finishing is what's killing Liverpool in recent times.

At the back Konate is just not good enough but they didn't ever look at buying decent cover when Gomez and Matip are walking sick notes. At the time there was a the big crisis the lure of Klopp could have got a solid player in on frees or short term.

I know Klopp doesn't have City's money but the spending has not been great.
Diaz and Jota have provided excellent value for money and both would be sold for substantial profit if they moved on in summer. 

Jury still out on Nunez and Gakpo(who I don't believe is good enough to be a regular starter if everyones fit).  Nunez  I thought in the earlier part of the season was coming good but much like liverpool his season seems to have petered out. 

Turf

I like Gakpo would definitely keep him.
Would also give Nunez another season but they definitely need a more natural goalscorer in the team.
Toney is a good shout actually.
Could you imagine the amount of goals a prime Owen or Fowler would have gotten playing in that Liverpool team.