From Dublin Live:
QuoteThe GAA is reportedly set to spend more than €70 million on a major redevelopment of Croke Park.
The upgrade works will be the first overhaul of the famous old stadium since reconstruction works were completed in 2005.
Those works began in 1991 and ended up costing more than €260 million.
The latest plans will see conference and hospitality facilities expanded at the Drumcondra venue as well as an upgrade of the museum, reports the Irish Independent.
Seems like revenue-generating facilities will get an update. Sounds sensible to me. No point in offering conference facilities if they're 15 years out of date.
They have to.plan for when fans stop going to the football final because nobody cares how much Dublin win.
Have they not bought a place across the road from Croke Park - an old residential house with lands around it??
Or is that another plan in the pipeline?
I suppose they have to upgrade for stuff outside of football. Conferences, Concerts and the Museum. People from counties outside of Dublin will only be going to the Museum anymore to reminisce of glories past. Makes sense to invest here, it will probably be the busiest part of the Stadium.
What is it now that the Dubs are going for? 7 in a row?
If the GAA now have enough of the land in the area behind the Cusack Stand, the next time Croke Park is redeveloped they could flip it 90 degrees and have enough area to build a completely enclosed, multi-tiered stadium.
70m though, thats crazy money. Yet no money for counties to run the national league. Have the GAA forgot their purpose?
Quote from: Itchy on January 20, 2021, 11:12:48 PM
70m though, thats crazy money. Yet no money for counties to run the national league. Have the GAA forgot their purpose?
When did this happen?
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on January 20, 2021, 11:41:46 PM
Quote from: Itchy on January 20, 2021, 11:12:48 PM
70m though, thats crazy money. Yet no money for counties to run the national league. Have the GAA forgot their purpose?
When did this happen?
There is a debate at the moment about whether they will be run or not, one of the big arguments is that there is no government aid coming for counties which means the GAA will lose a pile of money if they cover it. No decision is made but it seems to be in the balance as a lot of top brass dont think they should cover it. Of course there are other pro's and con's in the mix too.
Itchy, quick point of order:
An expense is a direct cost of running a business or providing a service. It would be a rare event for a financial institution to consider lending money for such activities.
An investment is a financial expenditure with a purpose of increasing revenues, and unless the bean counters have it inside out, those revenues will more than cover the initial outlay, so much so that borrowing the capital required is often an attractive option.
What you're doing above is comparing apples with exhaust pipes.
Quote from: thewobbler on January 21, 2021, 02:29:35 PM
Itchy, quick point of order:
An expense is a direct cost of running a business or providing a service. It would be a rare event for a financial institution to consider lending money for such activities.
An investment is a financial expenditure with a purpose of increasing revenues, and unless the bean counters have it inside out, those revenues will more than cover the initial outlay, so much so that borrowing the capital required is often an attractive option.
What you're doing above is comparing apples with exhaust pipes.
I get that. And I imagine the GAA are quite cash rich so I am not sure what amount of loans they need for capital projects of expenditure. Plus it may be rare to borrow for expenditure but in the case of a covid pandemic maybe not so rare? Governments are borrowing for it quite a lot too.
Is there any space available to complete the construction of the stadium, wrap the Cusack to the Hogan and making it an all seater?
No.
Meanwhile Louth plan moving from the Green grassy slopes
https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2021/0122/1191396-louth-step-up-drive-to-build-new-12m-stadium/
Quote from: Main Street on January 22, 2021, 12:02:07 PM
Is there any space available to complete the construction of the stadium, wrap the Cusack to the Hogan and making it an all seater?
I wonder will they ever do that?
Is it ever feasible or is it totally impractical?
Quote from: Rossfan on January 22, 2021, 12:36:43 PM
No.
Meanwhile Louth plan moving from the Green grassy slopes
https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2021/0122/1191396-louth-step-up-drive-to-build-new-12m-stadium/
That looks impressive.
Green field site on a good network road with access to motorway. Well done Louth gaels.
As an side, re: the location. Was there much hassle in moving the location from Drogheda to Dundalk? Like can the Louth Board now sell the Drogheda pitch for housing as it's on the edge of the town?
New stadium could be built by the time we get back to playing.
Quote from: marty34 on January 22, 2021, 02:48:46 PM
Quote from: Main Street on January 22, 2021, 12:02:07 PM
Is there any space available to complete the construction of the stadium, wrap the Cusack to the Hogan and making it an all seater?
I wonder will they ever do that?
Is it ever feasible or is it totally impractical?
ive always heard that keeping the hill was a choice so the poor chisslers of Dubin could afford to go and watch Dublin , Talk as well about refunding their bus fare if they bring a friend
Quote from: marty34 on January 22, 2021, 02:51:53 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on January 22, 2021, 12:36:43 PM
No.
Meanwhile Louth plan moving from the Green grassy slopes
https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2021/0122/1191396-louth-step-up-drive-to-build-new-12m-stadium/
That looks impressive.
Green field site on a good network road with access to motorway. Well done Louth gaels.
As an side, re: the location. Was there much hassle in moving the location from Drogheda to Dundalk? Like can the Louth Board now sell the Drogheda pitch for housing as it's on the edge of the town?
New stadium could be built by the time we get back to playing.
iresume where it says 14,000-seat stadium it means capacity? with most standing.
something like that would be ideal as a stadium for the LGFA few more seats maybe in Athone? save them begging for grounds all the time and Surely the Governmant would have to fund it to equall things up a bit
Rosnarun it's 4k seats and 9k or so standing plus 750 behind each goal I think .
Lazy media seem unable to type "capacity" so everything is "seater".
Marty I think the Drogheda grounds belong to the local club (Boyle O'Reillys?)
Quote from: Rossfan on January 22, 2021, 03:08:30 PM
Rosnarun it's 4k seats and 9k or so standing plus 750 behind each goal I think .
Lazy media seem unable to type "capacity" so everything is "seater".
Marty I think the Drogheda grounds belong to the local club (Boyle O'Reillys?)
Could county board not build them a new pitch/grounds with money made from selling it?
Or would they not be allowed to sell it? Maybe nowhere else close by, or it'd just be as costly and out of the local club's catchment area.
I suppose that's an issue with dual county/club grounds when the county want a new build.
Just thinking it'd be a serious help with the costs of the new ground if they could off-set it with this money.
All of these Stadiums, all costing a lot of money to build and run. And rarely used to their potential - even in non-covid times. Croke Park is beginning to struggle to get anyway near capacity anymore.
Quote from: From the Bunker on January 22, 2021, 03:29:15 PM
All of these Stadiums, all costing a lot of money to build and run. And rarely used to their potential - even in non-covid times. Croke Park is beginning to struggle to get anyway near capacity anymore.
True but i think in the case of Louth thats a good fit for them and they badly needed a proper modern ground. The county has great potential if they could get their act together. You never know the dubs might even come up and play them there one day.
https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2021/0122/1191495-gaa-insist-plans-to-redevelop-cusack-stand-still-on-ice/
Quote from: Rossfan on January 22, 2021, 03:08:30 PM
Rosnarun it's 4k seats and 9k or so standing plus 750 behind each goal I think .
Lazy media seem unable to type "capacity" so everything is "seater".
Marty I think the Drogheda grounds belong to the local club (Boyle O'Reillys?)
I think the club is the O'Raghallaighs.