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General discussion / Re: Dialect test
« on: February 21, 2019, 07:29:29 AM »
Is

wile/while wine (considerably high winds) or the pronunciation of wild as wile/while

an area specific saying?

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General discussion / Re: Dialect test
« on: February 21, 2019, 07:24:47 AM »
Also dont they say "mines" in Newton/Derg?

Or is theirs more of "my-an" / "my-ans"

My-ans

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General discussion / Re: Dialect test
« on: February 20, 2019, 09:58:49 PM »
BTW guddies (not gutties!) to me were always the rubber soled black shoes, were as the sports shoe was always runners

Omagh townies would call the actual runners guddies.

Also a townie is not necessarily a derogatory term and defo not necessarily a lower class person, it could apply to the golfers types also. Basically someone who wasnt into farming or cars, was a bit showy and soft on the football field and called it "Gaelic".
The lower class types would be "skiprats" or "townie scumbags"

.... and alot of Omagh wans would call their Granny "Nan" thats got to be a garrison hangover that one

Definitely gutties - just your spelling was a bit too phonetical.

Townies is a derogatory term in Omagh when used by those living in the surrounding countryside or by core non-Omagh GAA types or the culchies.  It indicated people who were a seen to not have the backbone and core that the culchies had themselves. It's the derision often directed at Omagh ones who played soccer and football or didn't glorify a culchie lifestyle.  Used in school by culchie GAA teachers in directing insult to those who lived in the town or played for the town GAA teams when finding ways not to pick them for school teams. Look for how long it took for Omagh players to breakthrough onto underage and then senior football teams.  Same happened in Dungannon. 

Never heard the term Skiprat ever used in Omagh to describe anyone and rarely heard or hear Nan being used for Granny except with women who think they are too young to be grannies.

Correct on the gutties, and on the townies. One of the stranger things in my youth was being called a Townie by all and sundry in school football and club underage football - only to take the bus to a challenge game for St Enda's against O'Donovan Rossa and proceed to get lambasted as a crowd of sheep shaggin culchies for the duration.

However, the true dialect test for an Omagh townie is when they say 'mines', i.e. 'Who owns this book? It's mines'

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General discussion / Re: Dialect test
« on: February 19, 2019, 07:40:36 AM »
BTW guddies (not gutties!) to me were always the rubber soled black shoes, were as the sports shoe was always runners

Omagh townies would call the actual runners guddies.

Also a townie is not necessarily a derogatory term and defo not necessarily a lower class person, it could apply to the golfers types also. Basically someone who wasnt into farming or cars, was a bit showy and soft on the football field and called it "Gaelic".
The lower class types would be "skiprats" or "townie scumbags"

.... and alot of Omagh wans would call their Granny "Nan" thats got to be a garrison hangover that one

Definitely gutties - just your spelling was a bit too phonetical.

Townies is a derogatory term in Omagh when used by those living in the surrounding countryside or by core non-Omagh GAA types or the culchies.  It indicated people who were a seen to not have the backbone and core that the culchies had themselves. It's the derision often directed at Omagh ones who played soccer and football or didn't glorify a culchie lifestyle.  Used in school by culchie GAA teachers in directing insult to those who lived in the town or played for the town GAA teams when finding ways not to pick them for school teams. Look for how long it took for Omagh players to breakthrough onto underage and then senior football teams.  Same happened in Dungannon. 

Never heard the term Skiprat ever used in Omagh to describe anyone and rarely heard or hear Nan being used for Granny except with women who think they are too young to be grannies.

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General discussion / Re: building a house
« on: February 17, 2019, 10:35:48 AM »
hi all, trying to get a house build and looking about the exterior off the house. we had our heart set on stone but its going to cost to much. just wondering is there any other alternatives that is similar to stone than is cheaper? thanks in advance

Surely the cost is in the labour regardless of whether you clad in real or manufactured stone.  Agree with TrueBlue, stone as a feature can work best against a rendered finish or in combination with some wood cladding.  Too much stone of a particular hue can be hard to look at long term.

This self-build exhibition is on this week and will have stone dressers and manufacturers:

https://www.facebook.com/events/528577350979039/

In relation to stone have you checked out:

https://www.coolestone.co.uk

http://www.aurastone.co.uk

http://www.naturalstoneindustries.com

Tullylish Stone
41 Blue Road,
Gilford,
Craigavon,
County Armagh,
BT63 6DA

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General discussion / Re: Dialect test
« on: February 16, 2019, 05:58:27 PM »
Lisburn?

27 years in Armagh and 33 in Omagh.

Did it again -  Derry & Lisburn but definitely west Ulster.

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General discussion / Re: Things that make you go What the F**k?
« on: February 12, 2019, 05:47:07 PM »
Newry man sentenced to 8 years in Turkish jail

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-47215312?ns_linkname=northern_ireland&ns_source=twitter&ns_mchannel=social&ns_campaign=bbc_news_ni

Apart from the horror of time in a Turkish jail, he consented to having the ring removed surgically when it didn't pass in 36 hours!

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General discussion / Re: Death Notices
« on: February 12, 2019, 03:30:05 PM »
Sorry to hear about John Morrison, much too young to leave us.

I remember him as a young teacher arriving in the Geography department in Greenpark CBS.  He was such a character compared to the staid old lads and brothers who made up the staff.  Everyone wanted to be in Beefer's class.  He went on to lecture St Mary's in Belfast.

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General discussion / Re: The SDLP
« on: February 11, 2019, 03:16:29 PM »
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-47200039

Not good news for the SDLP.  Essentially, the SDL part of the party was sacrificed for Saturday's agreement to enter into an 'understanding' with Fianna Fail.  Now, an majorl part of the P has gone too.

It would appear Claire is only a Democrat when it suits her. Sad but something has to change or there’ll be no party to resign from.

Pathetic.

You can be a democrat, accept a vote has gone against you and then take whatever actions your principles demand. In her case, the party she belonged to voted to become a branch of FF, a centre right party and moved away from its founding principles and any pretence of being social democrats with left leaning policies. She has her principles and decided to resign her portfolio and become an independent.  Strange though that she wants to remain a member of the party.

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GAA Discussion / Re: NFL Division 2 2019
« on: February 10, 2019, 09:01:32 PM »


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General discussion / Re: The SDLP
« on: February 10, 2019, 10:59:55 AM »
MLA Claire Hanna seems to have deleted all SDLP mentions from social media, where next for what seems like a very competent politician?

Alliance Party.

Alliance party would be extremely risky. They already have ex uup Bradshaw as an mla they wont get enough votes for 2 even with Hanna bringing some personal vote with her. Likewise an independent is risky for the same reasons. All academic since stormont isnt going to be up and running again anytime soon. I think Hanna made the mistake of being so vocal. Fair play to her for sticking to her principles but she has kind of cornered herself  she could have just said she wasnt happy and left it at that. It could be yrs if ever before sdlp candidates have to stand under FF banner.

They may not be standing under a FF banner but as far as the voters are concerned it is now FF.

With PR voting there is always room for an independent, just look at the Dail. Hanna could easily form another party if she shows true left wing, social democratic credentials with a nationalist standpoint, what the SDLP should have become.  It might survive mostly in the east while Tobin makes in-road into the rural areas of the west. PR gives breathing space to multiple parties but Stormont denies them the power found in normal parliamentary systems.

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GAA Discussion / Re: NFL Division 2 2019
« on: February 03, 2019, 06:24:25 PM »
Thank goodness not only Armagh getting draws:



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GAA Discussion / Re: NFL Division 2 2019
« on: January 29, 2019, 03:26:33 PM »
Geezer is in situ for 5 years and the players are "lacking in experience" .

I bet Cavan with Graham will overtake them

Maybe players in their first or second year in the squad or team do not automatically accrue 5 years experience on day 1? Just a thought.

I would be very surprised if at the end of the league we will not have demonstrated improvement. That will be influenced by a combination of returning players, improving/maturing players and actual improvements by the group Geezer has been working with. So even then after the improvement opinions will continue to be divided.

Also confident of us actually winning an Ulster championship match.

After that who knows??

There is talent there and depth. More depth than anybody since McDonnell have had.

+1

No excuses for McGeeney after this year with a full hand to play.

No Andrew Murnin
No Oisin O'Neill
No Ethan Rafferty

Your definition of full hand and mine appear to differ!

There will always be injuries for any manager but he has a full hand in the absence of withdrawals from the squad for a variety of reasons as in previous years.

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General discussion / Re: Private Health Care in the North
« on: January 29, 2019, 03:16:56 PM »
Private health via a provider over a long period of time can be a major rip off.  As you get older the monthly payment increases greatly.  If you look at the value of the payments against the use made then you will find that self-insurance is just as viable if not cheaper. 

Private health works well to get consultations in a timely manner but it is weaker when it comes to procedures.  It should be noted that in some trusts when you step out to go private it is not always possible to step in to NHS to continue treatment.

The private hospitals in N.Ireland are barely capable of patient care as Rois found in having to go to Scotland. The after operation care is quite minimal and well below the standard provided in NHS. Private hospitals in N.Ireland can often depend on NHS hospital to clear up complications that may occur in some procedures. Not unusual for NHS ambulances to be sent for to take patients for emergency care from private hospitals.  In post operative situations in private care it is not unusual for patients to find their consultant has long since gone back home or to work and they are left in the care of nursing staff without the safety net provided by junior doctors as found in NHS hospitals.

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General discussion / Re: Holidays
« on: January 29, 2019, 03:05:18 PM »
Ridiculous I know but has anyone brought their dog on holidays. Thinking of maybe taking the car over to Scotland or England. Maybe even France if I went away for 3/4 weeks in the summer.

Has your dog got a passport?

https://www.daera-ni.gov.uk/articles/travelling-pets

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