Ulster Club SFC 2021

[toby47]

You've got to break lines and get into the scoring zone, absolutely no point shooting from stupid angles or distance, we tell kids that every day, DG had players zone marking, very limited space and in football possession is king. Their tackles didn't create too much turn over ball, as Kilcoo were very comfortable on the ball snd a player always in support.

Patients paid off, if a team sets out like that you have to adopt, you're not playing for the TV, you're playing for you club, no trophies for losing with style.

Not being overly knowledgable on the old football but surely with all this S&C going on a lad can kick a ball over from 45 metres out from the hands in open play and the scoring percentages would be higher if it was feckin practiced...

Having to try and work the ball to 30 metres out and less plays into the hands of teams packing the defence out in this zonal system with everyone inside their 45...

Kilcoo worked that goal well but if it hadn't of came when it did before half time then you could have well saw another 30 minutes of the same...

With no offence at all intended - That is a nonsensical post.

[Armagh18]

You've got to break lines and get into the scoring zone, absolutely no point shooting from stupid angles or distance, we tell kids that every day, DG had players zone marking, very limited space and in football possession is king. Their tackles didn't create too much turn over ball, as Kilcoo were very comfortable on the ball snd a player always in support.

Patients paid off, if a team sets out like that you have to adopt, you're not playing for the TV, you're playing for you club, no trophies for losing with style.

Not being overly knowledgable on the old football but surely with all this S&C going on a lad can kick a ball over from 45 metres out from the hands in open play and the scoring percentages would be higher if it was feckin practiced...

Having to try and work the ball to 30 metres out and less plays into the hands of teams packing the defence out in this zonal system with everyone inside their 45...

Kilcoo worked that goal well but if it hadn't of came when it did before half time then you could have well saw another 30 minutes of the same...

It's club football, played in January. Most county teams would love players that could regularly get scores from outside the 45...

[Milltown Row2]

45 meter kicks for frees are very difficult to score never mind under pressure, whether we like it or not, football has evolved, watch a game from the 70's, it's comical kamikaze keystone cops football!

[shawshank]

You've got to break lines and get into the scoring zone, absolutely no point shooting from stupid angles or distance, we tell kids that every day, DG had players zone marking, very limited space and in football possession is king. Their tackles didn't create too much turn over ball, as Kilcoo were very comfortable on the ball snd a player always in support.

Patients paid off, if a team sets out like that you have to adopt, you're not playing for the TV, you're playing for you club, no trophies for losing with style.

Not being overly knowledgable on the old football but surely with all this S&C going on a lad can kick a ball over from 45 metres out from the hands in open play and the scoring percentages would be higher if it was feckin practiced...

Having to try and work the ball to 30 metres out and less plays into the hands of teams packing the defence out in this zonal system with everyone inside their 45...

Kilcoo worked that goal well but if it hadn't of came when it did before half time then you could have well saw another 30 minutes of the same...

your right.

[armaghniac]

45 meter kicks for frees are very difficult to score never mind under pressure, whether we like it or not, football has evolved, watch a game from the 70's, it's comical kamikaze keystone cops football!

I wonder has any journalist or nerd compiled the percentage of 45s that have gone over for various decades? Very much the same thing over the years, 5 yards is actually 2% further. I expect you would find that good teams had someone to knock these over.

[imtommygunn]

There were boys scoring 45s when I was an under 14. (incidentally all of them were man children and none ever went on to senior football that I know of  ).

Football more risk averse these days. Keep possession and shoot when you are more sure of scoring.

[tiempo]

DG scored the opening point of the game, a thing of beauty from a fair way out on the right wing, that said Jones basically threw the leg at it, it was a low percentage attempt that crept over, fair play to him, but its not reliably reproducible, otherwise they would have taken the ball to that spot or similar areas and done it time and again, end of the day if landing scores from 40m+ was handy everyone would be at it, and there have been shooting/scoring studies done that confirm this, look them up

Note the game of basketball changed when the stats men got their point across that a game based around 3 pointers was a lot more effective than a game plan based on 2 pointers, the payoff for what is comparatively similar (or even less) in terms of effort (though requiring a higher skill level) is a 33% increase on the score board. In GAA terms, first off having the ball means you aren't conceding, it also means you control the terms of engagement, with no shot clock there is no reason to take pot shots, and the studies show that getting the ball to the optimal "scoring zone" is how you win the game

[brokencrossbar1]

Well done to Kilcoo but you'd swear the way people are going on about them they were the best team ever in Ulster. Some people are actually stating that in some forums!

They play a very high intensity, hard working game and have a lot of talented players. They have the capacity to go the whole way but until they do I think there should be a wee bit of perspective about how good they are. I hope they do go on and win Andy but there's still a few steps on that road yet

[Targetman]

Thanks for that insightful contribution!

[shagger]

I see the Gaelic Life all stars are back this year, who would be your best 15 from the ulster club championship?

[grounded]

I see the Gaelic Life all stars are back this year, who would be your best 15 from the ulster club championship?

1 Niall Kane  Kilcoo

2 Niall Brannigan  Kilcoo       
3 Ryan McEvoy  Kilcoo         
4 Conor Carville Glen

5 micheal rooney kilcoo
6 Ciaran mc Faul Glen       
7 Eugene Brannigan kilcoo

8 Dylan Ward  Kilcoo
9  Conor Glass  Glen

10 conor mc conville Clan Eireann
11shealin johnston Kilcoo       
12 Paul Devlin Kilcoo

13 jerome Jonston Kilcoo
14 Conal Jones  Derrygonnelly
15 Danny Tallon Glen

Kilcoo dominating for me with a good scattering of Glen players and one each from Clan Eireann and Derrygonnelly. In fairness Derrygonnelly probably deserve more but the final left it difficult to include many.