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#61
General discussion / Re: Premier League 2022-2023
February 07, 2023, 05:00:46 PM
Quote from: Look-Up! on February 07, 2023, 02:51:35 PM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on February 07, 2023, 11:15:18 AM
Quote from: seafoid on February 07, 2023, 09:50:46 AM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on February 07, 2023, 09:24:36 AM
Quote from: seafoid on February 07, 2023, 03:42:58 AM
Liverpool have only been a force since Bill Shankly took over in the late 50s.

The idea that only Man Utd vs Liverpool is a genuine rivalry is wrong.
Not quite, 5 league titles (and 3 2nd divisions) before the 50s . Nice try though
In 1950 there weren't 2 teams far ahead on the title list.
Liverpool and Everton had 5 
Arsenal, Villa and Sunderland had 6.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_English_football_champions#Total_titles_won

Liverpool were part of the pack. Until Shankly changed everything
They were a force before 1950 as number of titles shows, and post 1950 too, as number of titles shows.
Not sure what your underlying point is here but whatever it is, it's not holding up.
As were City a force pre 50's and post as their numerous titles show in league and cup (pre 2010s), including at European level, plus several runners up seasons. Pre 50's too Utd won about 2 leagues? Fergie and Busby era's are the anomalies if you want to be technical about it accounting for all but 2 of their leagues?
I'd imagine that's his point which was in reply to someone saying City was a soul less club lacking tradition or history and Utd-Liverpool could only be classed as a proper rivalry.
Citeh were never a force before oil money.
Yea I'm sure he doesn't need you answering for him, if he wanted to respond he would.
But city are a soulless club lacking a proper history and Liverpool-United is a proper rivalry.
#62
General discussion / Re: Premier League 2022-2023
February 07, 2023, 11:15:18 AM
Quote from: seafoid on February 07, 2023, 09:50:46 AM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on February 07, 2023, 09:24:36 AM
Quote from: seafoid on February 07, 2023, 03:42:58 AM
Liverpool have only been a force since Bill Shankly took over in the late 50s.

The idea that only Man Utd vs Liverpool is a genuine rivalry is wrong.
Not quite, 5 league titles (and 3 2nd divisions) before the 50s . Nice try though
In 1950 there weren't 2 teams far ahead on the title list.
Liverpool and Everton had 5 
Arsenal, Villa and Sunderland had 6.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_English_football_champions#Total_titles_won

Liverpool were part of the pack. Until Shankly changed everything
They were a force before 1950 as number of titles shows, and post 1950 too, as number of titles shows.
Not sure what your underlying point is here but whatever it is, it's not holding up.
#63
General discussion / Re: Premier League 2022-2023
February 07, 2023, 09:24:36 AM
Quote from: seafoid on February 07, 2023, 03:42:58 AM
Liverpool have only been a force since Bill Shankly took over in the late 50s.

The idea that only Man Utd vs Liverpool is a genuine rivalry is wrong.
Not quite, 5 league titles (and 3 2nd divisions) before the 50s . Nice try though
#64
General discussion / Re: Premier League 2022-2023
February 06, 2023, 01:16:25 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on February 06, 2023, 12:39:48 PM
Quote from: Mourne Red on February 06, 2023, 12:24:51 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on February 06, 2023, 12:18:56 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on February 06, 2023, 12:12:27 PM
Liverpool and United about to get a bagful of titles between them.
Why Liverpool?

They've finished 2nd so many times behind City that's why?
Oh is there talk of titles being stripped off them??
I read that post as meaning winning future ones, apologies!
Even at that you only managed to question Liverpool winning future titles here and not United?😂
#65
GAA Discussion / Re: Should An Glenn object?
February 03, 2023, 09:57:29 PM
Is that the end of it now whereby Crokes are winners by default or does the process continue as the replay was ordered, to the extent where the final is now declared null and void?
#66
General discussion / Re: Man Utd Thread:
February 03, 2023, 08:55:26 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 03, 2023, 08:48:04 AM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on February 03, 2023, 08:28:29 AM
Quote from: Armagh18 on February 03, 2023, 08:20:54 AM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on February 03, 2023, 12:48:02 AM
Quote from: David McKeown on February 02, 2023, 10:22:54 PM
Quote from: Capt Pat on February 02, 2023, 07:04:04 PM
Sure United and their fans have no values. He will be back in the team in a few weeks.

If it was a Liverpool player involved he would have been sacked on the spot.

Where exactly is Liverpools moral compass. Sack innocent people accused of attempted rape but wear t shirts of support for players who bite and racially abuse other players?  Interesting.
(Accused of) racial abuse. For a legal know-it-all you quite conveniently missed that out for Suarez too.
If Greenwood is innocent, then so is Suarez.
Didnt see too many from United wearing shirts supporting Greenwood though. (Obviously what Greenwood was accused of is 100x worse than Suarez before you say it)

The whole Greenwood case is fishy. Has the gf got paid off? Why did it drag out so long?
of course she got paid off ;D
They'll stand up for themselves until a few quid is paid into their accounts

The unfortunate thing here is getting paid off (if that is the case) only makes things worse going forward for future victims to be taken seriously.. Personally no amount of money would stop me seeking justice if my daughter was involved

We know the full facts on this one
Agreed.
The evidence against him was pretty clear cut
It's quite sad that people would take a few quid over their own self respect and worth

#67
General discussion / Re: Man Utd Thread:
February 03, 2023, 08:28:29 AM
Quote from: Armagh18 on February 03, 2023, 08:20:54 AM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on February 03, 2023, 12:48:02 AM
Quote from: David McKeown on February 02, 2023, 10:22:54 PM
Quote from: Capt Pat on February 02, 2023, 07:04:04 PM
Sure United and their fans have no values. He will be back in the team in a few weeks.

If it was a Liverpool player involved he would have been sacked on the spot.

Where exactly is Liverpools moral compass. Sack innocent people accused of attempted rape but wear t shirts of support for players who bite and racially abuse other players?  Interesting.
(Accused of) racial abuse. For a legal know-it-all you quite conveniently missed that out for Suarez too.
If Greenwood is innocent, then so is Suarez.
Didnt see too many from United wearing shirts supporting Greenwood though. (Obviously what Greenwood was accused of is 100x worse than Suarez before you say it)

The whole Greenwood case is fishy. Has the gf got paid off? Why did it drag out so long?
of course she got paid off ;D
They'll stand up for themselves until a few quid is paid into their accounts
#68
General discussion / Re: Man Utd Thread:
February 03, 2023, 12:48:02 AM
Quote from: David McKeown on February 02, 2023, 10:22:54 PM
Quote from: Capt Pat on February 02, 2023, 07:04:04 PM
Sure United and their fans have no values. He will be back in the team in a few weeks.

If it was a Liverpool player involved he would have been sacked on the spot.

Where exactly is Liverpools moral compass. Sack innocent people accused of attempted rape but wear t shirts of support for players who bite and racially abuse other players?  Interesting.
(Accused of) racial abuse. For a legal know-it-all you quite conveniently missed that out for Suarez too.
If Greenwood is innocent, then so is Suarez.
#69
GAA Discussion / Re: Should An Glenn object?
January 25, 2023, 09:12:34 AM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on January 25, 2023, 05:36:23 AM
Quote from: J70 on January 25, 2023, 01:54:23 AM
Good for Glen.

Disgrace that they had to take the initiative to force action however.

Rules is rules. Club has to object. Could be a good time to revisit that rule and get something on the agenda for the next Congress to allow the CCC to order a replay without having to wait for the club to put something in.
No they don't. The GAA can and should've investigated themselves first.
#70
GAA Discussion / Re: Should An Glenn object?
January 24, 2023, 11:32:14 PM
Absolutely the right thing to do by Glen. The GAA are spineless.
#71
General discussion / Re: Premier League 2022-2023
January 09, 2023, 10:29:55 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 09, 2023, 10:28:54 PM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on January 09, 2023, 10:21:14 PM
Not even Wales' best ever player let alone Britain.😂

The smiley face confirms it,  like using Fact at the end of a statement
Exactly
#72
Yea they do, you can't be bluntly turned down for no reason
#73
Yea well I don't doubt what type of people they are
#74
General discussion / Re: Premier League 2022-2023
January 09, 2023, 10:21:14 PM
Not even Wales' best ever player let alone Britain.😂
#75
Quote from: Armagh18 on January 09, 2023, 10:08:20 PM
Quote from: GiveItToTheShooters on January 09, 2023, 07:04:21 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on January 09, 2023, 04:08:19 PM
Quote from: general_lee on January 09, 2023, 03:59:53 PM
Quote from: Kidder81 on January 09, 2023, 03:13:08 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on January 09, 2023, 02:48:33 PM
Quote from: God14 on January 09, 2023, 02:27:36 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on January 09, 2023, 08:12:04 AM
Quote from: RedHand88 on January 09, 2023, 07:37:45 AM
Quote from: Sportacus on January 08, 2023, 03:10:11 PM
John Finucane knocking out £161k in earnings outside being an MP.  There mustn't be enough hours in the day for that fella.

Should be said, that's over 3 years not 1. It was January 202 to December 2022. So 54k a year.
Hardly mindblowing money now is it...

he represented Daniel Kinahan in that time. Some of that £161k will have come from one of the worlds most wanted men.

Pretty sure that is the essence of the legal system, everyone is entitled to representation.

In fairness I'm not sure that was a legal aid type case, next barrister/solicitor up & you take the case. I'm guessing Kinahan approached Finucanes firm & they accepted instructions, he could have refused & you would have thought it would have made sense to from a PR perspective (never mind from an ethics standpoint), especially with Finucanes profile as a politician.

I suppose he knew Kinahan would be able to afford it   :D
Turning down work along ethical lines is all well and good, but where do you draw the line?
Probably on the other side of murdering drug dealers lol
Pretty sure he hasn't been convicted of any murder, you should probably pass on any information if you're so sure about that.

You can't really draw any line, especially if you're a defence solicitor. They have to take the case if they're able to.
Don't be so pedantic. It's the Kinahan drug cartel they aren't exactly boy scouts lol. Not sure about that one, would they not be able to say no? Anyway like I said before money talks and bullshit walks so let him at it.
It's not pedantic, they have to take the case on if they have the capacity to take it when they're approached, unless they have a justifiable reason not to. Saying "nah you seem like an arsehole" doesn't cut it as an excuse if you're a defence lawyer.