Dublin V Donegal

[Mourne Red]

It'll be changed by next year - one home, one away and one neutral.

Home - Croke Park
Away - Whoever they draw
Nuetral - Páirc Uí Chaoimh or Gaelic Grounds

(In relation to Dublin)

[Dire Ear]

Show up,  get bate and head home again

[From the Bunker]

Porr auld Philly does not know where home is!

https://twitter.com/offtheball/status/1012089439160557573

[From the Bunker]

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/philly-mcmahon-dublin-s-legacy-untarnished-by-croke-park-factor-1.3546003


Asked if their residence there continues to present them with an unfair advantage, McMahon said:

"When Dublin use Croke Park as a home venue, they rent it, so anyone can rent it. It's up to their counties to rent it if they want. It's not as if we're getting something that nobody else can get. If other counties want to rent Croke Park, they can rent it. Just for us, with the fans we have, it probably makes more sense to put it in Croke Park.'

[Rossfan]

Did you ever hear such smug 2 fingers to the lot of ye sh1te? Leitrim probably couldn't afford the rent anyway.

[TheGreatest]

He's right though, Dublin rent it for the their home league games, which is 3 or 4 games per year it is officially Dublin's home ground.

Leinster council rule it for championship and call the shots and where teams play.

Then HQ from 1/4s (super 8s) on wards call the shots.

Would love to see Dublin play the last match in Parnell Park. Could be dead rubber also.

[J70]

That's all fine lads, but the Dubs are getting two home games while no one else enjoys the same advantage. It's about time there was a stop put to this, whether or not it's too late for this season. At the very least, the venue benefits should not favour one particular team. Kildare have started something.

Kildare exploited a loophole. As for the round robin for the last eight, the motion that was voted in at congress was every team in the last 8 would have one home game one away and one game played in Croke park. Croke park is not Dublins official home ground so Armagh or Roscommon have a strong case to get their round 3 game played in Parnell park and if the CCCC deem that venue unsuitable then they have to select a neutral venue and some where other than Croke park.

Loophole or not, Kildare appear to have lit a fire under at least parts of the GAA community. We'll see in the long run whether it will peter out or whether Dublin get to keep all of the advantages they enjoy going forward.

And seriously, spare us the "official home ground" nonsense. It is an absolute fact that Donegal will be playing two away games in the Super 8s and Dublin will be playing two home games. The Donegal County Board are absolutely right that this is not a level playing field. And while it is likely too late for this year, there's no harm in trying to see that it gets addressed for the future.

[blewuporstuffed]

That's all fine lads, but the Dubs are getting two home games while no one else enjoys the same advantage. It's about time there was a stop put to this, whether or not it's too late for this season. At the very least, the venue benefits should not favour one particular team. Kildare have started something.

Kildare exploited a loophole. As for the round robin for the last eight, the motion that was voted in at congress was every team in the last 8 would have one home game one away and one game played in Croke park. Croke park is not Dublins official home ground so Armagh or Roscommon have a strong case to get their round 3 game played in Parnell park and if the CCCC deem that venue unsuitable then they have to select a neutral venue and some where other than Croke park.

Loophole or not, Kildare appear to have lit a fire under at least parts of the GAA community. We'll see in the long run whether it will peter out or whether Dublin get to keep all of the advantages they enjoy going forward.

And seriously, spare us the "official home ground" nonsense. It is an absolute fact that Donegal will be playing two away games in the Super 8s and Dublin will be playing two home games. The Donegal County Board are absolutely right that this is not a level playing field. And while it is likely too late for this year, there's no harm in trying to see that it gets addressed for the future.

100% J70

[J70]

I was totally supportive of Kildare in their fight for a home venue last week, but neither Donegal nor anybody else who are arguing against Dublin has a leg to stand on here.

The Dublin-Donegal game (or whoever was in it) has been fixed for Croke Park since this format was voted in by Congress. There is no question of changing the venue for it.

And there is no difference between Dublin nominating Croke Park as the venue for their home game and Kildare nominating Portlaoise for their home game against Limerick in 2012, or Croke Park as their home venue for league games against Tyrone or Dublin, which they have done.

None whatsoever.

Come on Sid, seriously?

There is no difference between Dublin playing every home league this decade and just about every championship game, home OR away, in Croke Park, slap bang in the centre of the city, closer to their southside players' homes than Parnell Park, on the front doorstep of a massive supporter base, and Kildare moving a handful of games to Croke Park or Portlaoise?

[sid waddell]

I was totally supportive of Kildare in their fight for a home venue last week, but neither Donegal nor anybody else who are arguing against Dublin has a leg to stand on here.

The Dublin-Donegal game (or whoever was in it) has been fixed for Croke Park since this format was voted in by Congress. There is no question of changing the venue for it.

And there is no difference between Dublin nominating Croke Park as the venue for their home game and Kildare nominating Portlaoise for their home game against Limerick in 2012, or Croke Park as their home venue for league games against Tyrone or Dublin, which they have done.

None whatsoever.

Come on Sid, seriously?

There is no difference between Dublin playing every home league this decade and just about every championship game, home OR away, in Croke Park, slap bang in the centre of the city, closer to their southside players' homes than Parnell Park, on the front doorstep of a massive supporter base, and Kildare moving a handful of games to Croke Park or Portlaoise?

In procedural terms there is no difference at all.

In terms of whether Dublin playing in Croke Park is a bigger advantage to them than it is to Kildare when they play in Croke Park or Portlaoise as a nominated "home" venue, that's a completely different question which probably has a completely different answer, but that's not the question at hand.

The relevant question is the procedural one.

[J70]

I was totally supportive of Kildare in their fight for a home venue last week, but neither Donegal nor anybody else who are arguing against Dublin has a leg to stand on here.

The Dublin-Donegal game (or whoever was in it) has been fixed for Croke Park since this format was voted in by Congress. There is no question of changing the venue for it.

And there is no difference between Dublin nominating Croke Park as the venue for their home game and Kildare nominating Portlaoise for their home game against Limerick in 2012, or Croke Park as their home venue for league games against Tyrone or Dublin, which they have done.

None whatsoever.

Come on Sid, seriously?

There is no difference between Dublin playing every home league this decade and just about every championship game, home OR away, in Croke Park, slap bang in the centre of the city, closer to their southside players' homes than Parnell Park, on the front doorstep of a massive supporter base, and Kildare moving a handful of games to Croke Park or Portlaoise?

In procedural terms there is no difference at all.

In terms of whether Dublin playing in Croke Park is a bigger advantage to them than it is to Kildare when they play in Croke Park or Portlaoise as a nominated "home" venue, that's a completely different question which probably has a completely different answer, but that's not the question at hand.

The relevant question is the procedural one.

This time around, probably.

But "procedural" is not what this is really about. I seriously doubt if Donegal are entertaining any REAL notions that this particular game will be anywhere except Croke Park. But going forward, it absolutely needs to be addressed. Like I said, Dublin with two home matches and Donegal with two away, while the other six have one home, one away and one neutral is simply not fair.

[macdanger2]

That's all fine lads, but the Dubs are getting two home games while no one else enjoys the same advantage. It's about time there was a stop put to this, whether or not it's too late for this season. At the very least, the venue benefits should not favour one particular team. Kildare have started something.

Kildare exploited a loophole. As for the round robin for the last eight, the motion that was voted in at congress was every team in the last 8 would have one home game one away and one game played in Croke park. Croke park is not Dublins official home ground so Armagh or Roscommon have a strong case to get their round 3 game played in Parnell park and if the CCCC deem that venue unsuitable then they have to select a neutral venue and some where other than Croke park.

Loophole or not, Kildare appear to have lit a fire under at least parts of the GAA community. We'll see in the long run whether it will peter out or whether Dublin get to keep all of the advantages they enjoy going forward.

And seriously, spare us the "official home ground" nonsense. It is an absolute fact that Donegal will be playing two away games in the Super 8s and Dublin will be playing two home games. The Donegal County Board are absolutely right that this is not a level playing field. And while it is likely too late for this year, there's no harm in trying to see that it gets addressed for the future.

100% J70

Spot on J70

Funny how Croker isn't an advantage to Dublin yet they don't want to give it up 🤔

[TheGreatest]

That's all fine lads, but the Dubs are getting two home games while no one else enjoys the same advantage. It's about time there was a stop put to this, whether or not it's too late for this season. At the very least, the venue benefits should not favour one particular team. Kildare have started something.

Kildare exploited a loophole. As for the round robin for the last eight, the motion that was voted in at congress was every team in the last 8 would have one home game one away and one game played in Croke park. Croke park is not Dublins official home ground so Armagh or Roscommon have a strong case to get their round 3 game played in Parnell park and if the CCCC deem that venue unsuitable then they have to select a neutral venue and some where other than Croke park.

Loophole or not, Kildare appear to have lit a fire under at least parts of the GAA community. We'll see in the long run whether it will peter out or whether Dublin get to keep all of the advantages they enjoy going forward.

And seriously, spare us the "official home ground" nonsense. It is an absolute fact that Donegal will be playing two away games in the Super 8s and Dublin will be playing two home games. The Donegal County Board are absolutely right that this is not a level playing field. And while it is likely too late for this year, there's no harm in trying to see that it gets addressed for the future.

100% J70

Spot on J70

Funny how Croker isn't an advantage to Dublin yet they don't want to give it up 🤔

More than happy to. Its HQ CCCC that make the calls on this, Dublin will play anywhere they are told.

[easytiger95]

I'm not going to get into the rights or wrongs of Dublin's use of Croke Park or the supposed advantages that it gives - I've done it before, everyone knows each others views on this and there is no need to jump on the carousel.

However, the way this phase of the competition has been formulated is flawed, fatally, I would say. Whatever about the reality of competitive advantages accrued, or the reality that Dublin have the largest support etc etc, the perception of unfairness is as dangerous to the integrity of the competition as actual unfairness.

As was pointed out earlier, Congress makes the rules, and the CCCC implements them but the DCB should make it clear, very quickly, that they are open to any solution that means they play only once in Croke Park during the Super 8 series.

[Keane]

Dublin could rent Fitzgerald's Stadium any time they want, presumably that doesn't change the fact that it's Kerry's home ground.