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Would it be an option to double mark Donaghy with a high fielder and a natural defender?

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                          Clarke

Harrisson           Keegan         Barrett

Boyle                Vaughan        Durcan
 
              O Shea     Parsons

McLoughlin        O Shea         O Connor


Higgins             Moran          O Connor



Hennelly, Cafferkey,  Coen, Drake,  Nally, Moran, Doherty, Loftus, Kirby, Dillon, O Shea

Seems like a waste of Keegan at full back, could swap with vaughan? And im assuming you have higgins playin sweeper?

Why would anyone play higgins corner forward when his greatest strength is coming from deep
I actuall thing we need a left footer on that wing .  how many time have we seen Cillian or andy receiving the ball  with back to goal and now one to lay it off to .  maybe a recall for regan or move Mclouglin  in

Probably meant higgins as sweeper

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                          Clarke

Harrisson           Keegan         Barrett

Boyle                Vaughan        Durcan
 
              O Shea     Parsons

McLoughlin        O Shea         O Connor


Higgins             Moran          O Connor



Hennelly, Cafferkey,  Coen, Drake,  Nally, Moran, Doherty, Loftus, Kirby, Dillon, O Shea

Seems like a waste of Keegan at full back, could swap with vaughan? And im assuming you have higgins playin sweeper?

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GAA Discussion / Re: Cork fans flying the confederate flag
« on: August 15, 2017, 09:49:15 PM »
I've never brought a flag to a game in my life so if they banned the whole lot of them it wouldn't bother me.
Just spare me the righteous indignation of Irish social media users who would no doubt be horrified to learn that the State flag of Mississippi still contains the confederate battle flag.

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Whats it got to do with Cork??

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GAA Discussion / Re: Cork fans flying the confederate flag
« on: August 15, 2017, 09:16:29 PM »
I think they should ditch it purely because it's not worth the hassle the bearer will ultimately bring upon themselves, but I find the sudden explosion of outrage a bit much.
If you're offended by the sight of the Confederate flag, don't ever visit the Southern states of America.
Or maybe you should visit, and chastise every person you see over there with a confederate flag hanging outside their house or on a bumper sticker.
Or better still denounce them as racists to their face.
I've little or no interest in flags of any description but this craic whereby the 'concerned citizens of the internet' get together to decide what is and isn't offensive is starting to bug me.
Were the Dukes of Hazzard racist?
Well, maybe the blonde lad was but I'll kill any man who says anything bad about Daisy.

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But why not just fly a cork flag?

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GAA Discussion / Re: Cork fans flying the confederate flag
« on: August 15, 2017, 09:09:55 PM »
Cork fans have been flying the Confederate flag since I first started watching Gaelic on television. Anyone who thinks Cork fans were endorsing white supremacy need to have a serious look at themselves. Plus, they can shove their 'offence' up their arse.

Nobody thinks but its just so pointless, why not just fly a cork flag?

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GAA Discussion / Re: Cork fans flying the confederate flag
« on: August 15, 2017, 04:50:52 PM »
If you want to you can find offence with everything FFS.

Crowd of whinging bollocks.

Im not finding offence, im just asking why? It has absolutely no relevance whatsoever to cork

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Predicted mayo lineups?

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Expect to see the Kingdom win this one pulling up. Much the same as the Galway game.

I wouldn't go that far but Kerry are clear favorites in everyones eyes. We will give a better account of ourselves than Galway did.

Agree. Winning the middle third is crucial in this one.  I expect to be a battle. Whether or not it will be enough to win it is another thing. Unfortunately I think Thy Kingdom Come's words will prove to be prophetic, but it will be tighter than people think. It'd be great if Kerry had a load of wides against us for a change.

The only way thatll happen is if we kick so many wides more than them that it makes their wides insignificant 😅

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Any thoughts on where keegan will play? If he slots back in at 5, Kerry will play a spoiler (Walsh/Murphy/Lyne) on him (maybe doubling up at times) and try to play him at his own game, niggle at him and try to frustrate him - hammer the hammer as they say.

As I see it, we have two options here, hope that keegan won't react to any niggle and will just get the better of his man. Or what I'd like to see us doing is using keegan to hammer the hammer - stick him on one of Kerry's biggest threats, Geaney or Moran. I don't think keegan is suited to Geaney on the inside line so it leaves putting him on David Moran where I think he'd match up well, he'd put moran on the back foot and stop him from driving forward. The only place I'd see a disadvantage for us would be on Kerry's kickouts where AOS would need to provide assistance.

O'Donoghue?

What about him?

Could keegan mark him?
He could but so could Keith. Leroy's talents might be put to better use further outfield. Right now, I'd be more worried about Donaghy  if Kerry adopt the same approach they did in Limerick in '14. Whoever marks him will need to have a bit of aggro in him to put Star off hio oats.
I think, if my memory isn't playing tricks that any time he was marked tightly and got no room to get moving, he wasn't nearly as effective as he was in Limerick.
I am not terribly worried about the pair of them either. Jamesy has had a load of injuries since that game and is not back to full form yet or so some Kerry mates tell me. Meantime, Donaghy is three years older and he was supposed to be gone past his sell by date even then.
Keep the faith and never say die! ;D

Keith marking O' Donoghue not a good idea imo. Both could have great games in their own way if ye know what I mean. We need O Donoghue not have a good game. We need Keith to have a great game. I would go Barrett on O Donoghue and Harrisson on Geaney.
Then its a question of who takes up Donaghy. Vaughan? I dunno? Say you start Vaughan,  then realistically one from Harrison, Boyle, Higgins, Durcan, Barrett, Keegan cant start. Vaughan may have more size than those six but ...........
 Keegan is an option. But a sweeper would be essential. Give Keegan a license to attack at will when we are going forward and a sweeper to sit. Force Donaghy to chase a bit maybe. The reality is though, that we don't have a defender to match Donaghy for size. We know that. Our goal should be to control as much possession as we can around the field and discipline will be crucial also. Donaghy did us in drawn game in 14 but the killer ball came in from distance from David Moran. He was able to line up the perfect diagonal ball because we were down to 14 for so long and no pressure was able to get to him. It still could have been prevented with better presence at the back I know, but pressure on Moran disrupting that kick and there would have been no Limerick and a fresh Mayo team in the final.
Caff has become the forgotten man of Mayo football and thatís a pity. I think heís an excellent man marker and and has what it takes to be a good corner back. I donít think he could do a man to man on Donaghy but he could well give Jamesy a headache if put on him.
This isnít Limerick Ď14 either and Donaghy isnít the man he used to be. I still fear him but only if he is left unmarked or his marker stands off him.  I think Vaughan is the man to niggle the fecker and hassle him all the way. Jamesy has spent a lot of time on the injured list since that day in Limerick three years ago. He just canít be as sharp as he was back then.
However, if you ask me, the winning or losing of the game will depend on what happens in midfield.
Stopping Moran and Maher getting plenty of  possession is going to be impossible but preventing them from having the time and freedom to pinpoint their passes into Donaghy vital to our chances. Tom and Seamie is the best duo we have without a doubt and weíll do better there than we did in Limerick. This time out, Clarkie is in goal and unless itís my imagination playing tricks, his kick outs have improved immeasurably since the controversy last September.
All in all, Iím 50/50 on this one.  A display like the last day with the lessons to be learnt from it taken onboard.
Iíve covered a few bets from some cute hoors I know and this time around they were looking for tenner bets not twenties or fifties as in other years.
Maybe that's a lucky omen!

look i hate criticizing mayo players before a match . even if they are from ballina
but Caff cannot catch kick or solo a ball , has no vision and is (by county standards) very slow . it was almost embarresing the first day against roscommon when moving the ball out the other mayo players were doing anything other than pass to hime and even the rossies know from the lick outs that he did not need to be covered ,
it was as though he was one of prenty's sons that used be given a run on a regular basis but people know better than to pass to them.
There are certain players he could completely shut out of a game as he can be an excellent man marker but i dont think geaney o donoughoe or Donaghy are in that bracket.
Clarke should be dropped too

Youre jokin right? 😅😅
regan too

Sure Regan doesnt play anyway

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Any thoughts on where keegan will play? If he slots back in at 5, Kerry will play a spoiler (Walsh/Murphy/Lyne) on him (maybe doubling up at times) and try to play him at his own game, niggle at him and try to frustrate him - hammer the hammer as they say.

As I see it, we have two options here, hope that keegan won't react to any niggle and will just get the better of his man. Or what I'd like to see us doing is using keegan to hammer the hammer - stick him on one of Kerry's biggest threats, Geaney or Moran. I don't think keegan is suited to Geaney on the inside line so it leaves putting him on David Moran where I think he'd match up well, he'd put moran on the back foot and stop him from driving forward. The only place I'd see a disadvantage for us would be on Kerry's kickouts where AOS would need to provide assistance.

O'Donoghue?

What about him?

Could keegan mark him?
He could but so could Keith. Leroy's talents might be put to better use further outfield. Right now, I'd be more worried about Donaghy  if Kerry adopt the same approach they did in Limerick in '14. Whoever marks him will need to have a bit of aggro in him to put Star off hio oats.
I think, if my memory isn't playing tricks that any time he was marked tightly and got no room to get moving, he wasn't nearly as effective as he was in Limerick.
I am not terribly worried about the pair of them either. Jamesy has had a load of injuries since that game and is not back to full form yet or so some Kerry mates tell me. Meantime, Donaghy is three years older and he was supposed to be gone past his sell by date even then.
Keep the faith and never say die! ;D

Keith marking O' Donoghue not a good idea imo. Both could have great games in their own way if ye know what I mean. We need O Donoghue not have a good game. We need Keith to have a great game. I would go Barrett on O Donoghue and Harrisson on Geaney.
Then its a question of who takes up Donaghy. Vaughan? I dunno? Say you start Vaughan,  then realistically one from Harrison, Boyle, Higgins, Durcan, Barrett, Keegan cant start. Vaughan may have more size than those six but ...........
 Keegan is an option. But a sweeper would be essential. Give Keegan a license to attack at will when we are going forward and a sweeper to sit. Force Donaghy to chase a bit maybe. The reality is though, that we don't have a defender to match Donaghy for size. We know that. Our goal should be to control as much possession as we can around the field and discipline will be crucial also. Donaghy did us in drawn game in 14 but the killer ball came in from distance from David Moran. He was able to line up the perfect diagonal ball because we were down to 14 for so long and no pressure was able to get to him. It still could have been prevented with better presence at the back I know, but pressure on Moran disrupting that kick and there would have been no Limerick and a fresh Mayo team in the final.
Caff has become the forgotten man of Mayo football and thatís a pity. I think heís an excellent man marker and and has what it takes to be a good corner back. I donít think he could do a man to man on Donaghy but he could well give Jamesy a headache if put on him.
This isnít Limerick Ď14 either and Donaghy isnít the man he used to be. I still fear him but only if he is left unmarked or his marker stands off him.  I think Vaughan is the man to niggle the fecker and hassle him all the way. Jamesy has spent a lot of time on the injured list since that day in Limerick three years ago. He just canít be as sharp as he was back then.
However, if you ask me, the winning or losing of the game will depend on what happens in midfield.
Stopping Moran and Maher getting plenty of  possession is going to be impossible but preventing them from having the time and freedom to pinpoint their passes into Donaghy vital to our chances. Tom and Seamie is the best duo we have without a doubt and weíll do better there than we did in Limerick. This time out, Clarkie is in goal and unless itís my imagination playing tricks, his kick outs have improved immeasurably since the controversy last September.
All in all, Iím 50/50 on this one.  A display like the last day with the lessons to be learnt from it taken onboard.
Iíve covered a few bets from some cute hoors I know and this time around they were looking for tenner bets not twenties or fifties as in other years.
Maybe that's a lucky omen!

look i hate criticizing mayo players before a match . even if they are from ballina
but Caff cannot catch kick or solo a ball , has no vision and is (by county standards) very slow . it was almost embarresing the first day against roscommon when moving the ball out the other mayo players were doing anything other than pass to hime and even the rossies know from the lick outs that he did not need to be covered ,
it was as though he was one of prenty's sons that used be given a run on a regular basis but people know better than to pass to them.
There are certain players he could completely shut out of a game as he can be an excellent man marker but i dont think geaney o donoughoe or Donaghy are in that bracket.
Clarke should be dropped too

Youre jokin right? 😅😅

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GAA Discussion / Re: Cork fans flying the confederate flag
« on: August 15, 2017, 12:44:37 AM »
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Used to see that flown at Cork games. Given the atrocities committed by Imperial Japan should we decry it's use as well?

Yes because why jusy why? 😂😂 do cork not make flags

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Harrison marking Geaney, Vaughan on Donaghy and Durcan on JO'D - don't think Barrett would have the pace for him. Half back line of Keegan, Barrett, Higgins. Boyle on the bench for this one is harsh on him but 7 backs into 6 positions doesn't go. Playing backs as forwards hasn't worked for us before so I would avoid that.

We'll need savage work rate from the middle 8 players to put pressure on the ball going in. No full back in the country will out field Donaghy if Moran et al can pick their passes freely.

Play boyle wing back, higgins sweeper?

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GAA Discussion / Re: Tyrone v Dublin - The beginning of an era
« on: August 15, 2017, 12:18:56 AM »
Lads calm down, its an all ireland semi, Mickey Harte will be prepared 😂

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I don't think any honest Mayo supporter would solely blame Cormac Reilly for us losing that game. His "performance" was a contributing factor, but the clash of heads between COC and AOS was probably even more impactful.

Where I would disagree with some contributors is them downplaying this as just another poor refereeing performance

Reillys was most likely the worst performance by a referee in the modern game

Short memory. Plenty of lads above in Louth who would argue the toss on that one... Joe Sheridan throwing the ball into the goal to win the Leinster final

That was a single decision

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