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Baile Brigín 2

Quote from: Main Street on November 12, 2019, 10:00:57 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on November 12, 2019, 08:55:48 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on November 11, 2019, 09:42:10 PM
Quote from: joemamas on November 11, 2019, 03:42:42 PM
Just read Joe Brollys comments on GPA , spot on IMO.
They don't disclose who and how much gets paid what.
Are they full time or part time ?.
Wonder what the ratio of their salaries are as to what individual players in D3 and D4 get in annual mileage etc.


Probably a good idea in the very beginning as I am sure a lot of players were begging for mileage allowance, healthcare, but the lack of transparency and their mega fund raising dinners in the US
just raises a lot of genuine questions that apparently will not be answered.
Surely the gaa shouldn't be funding them until accounts are submitted for scrutiny every year?
The GAA shouldn't be funding them full stop. If the players want a union they should fund it themselves. If they want to be treated like soccer and rugby they should have to pony up like they do. And thats before the whole neutered topic comes up.
The players do not earn a salary. But the players do earn millions for the GAA by dint of their dedication and sacrifice with the game now being played at an almost 'professional' standard. The players are entitled to have a % of those earnings put back into looking after their welfare.
If Joe has any questions about how GPA money is being spent he can download the accounts and refer to actual figures rather than making wild assumptions.

Was that the article where Joe claimed after a challenge game  TCD v Meath that Sean Boylan rushed out to  phone up  Eamonn Coleman and point out that brilliant player for Trinity called Joe Brolly? What are the odds that Joe is confusing reality with a scene from that film 'Back to the Future' where the band member phoned up Chuck Berry?

The GAA funding the GPA means they are toothless. They will never take on the GAA and see the trough removed. So its controlled opposition, the facade of standing up for players.

Amateur players are not entitled to a thing. If they feel they deserve a slice, lets have a discussion about semi professionalism. On welfare, ok, things like insurance need to be in place. If the GPA disappear tomorrow players are no better or worse off. It is a vehicle to make some ex players a few bob and source some commercial work for the top few

Esmarelda

Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on November 12, 2019, 10:21:04 PM
Quote from: Main Street on November 12, 2019, 10:00:57 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on November 12, 2019, 08:55:48 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on November 11, 2019, 09:42:10 PM
Quote from: joemamas on November 11, 2019, 03:42:42 PM
Just read Joe Brollys comments on GPA , spot on IMO.
They don't disclose who and how much gets paid what.
Are they full time or part time ?.
Wonder what the ratio of their salaries are as to what individual players in D3 and D4 get in annual mileage etc.


Probably a good idea in the very beginning as I am sure a lot of players were begging for mileage allowance, healthcare, but the lack of transparency and their mega fund raising dinners in the US
just raises a lot of genuine questions that apparently will not be answered.
Surely the gaa shouldn't be funding them until accounts are submitted for scrutiny every year?
The GAA shouldn't be funding them full stop. If the players want a union they should fund it themselves. If they want to be treated like soccer and rugby they should have to pony up like they do. And thats before the whole neutered topic comes up.
The players do not earn a salary. But the players do earn millions for the GAA by dint of their dedication and sacrifice with the game now being played at an almost 'professional' standard. The players are entitled to have a % of those earnings put back into looking after their welfare.
If Joe has any questions about how GPA money is being spent he can download the accounts and refer to actual figures rather than making wild assumptions.

Was that the article where Joe claimed after a challenge game  TCD v Meath that Sean Boylan rushed out to  phone up  Eamonn Coleman and point out that brilliant player for Trinity called Joe Brolly? What are the odds that Joe is confusing reality with a scene from that film 'Back to the Future' where the band member phoned up Chuck Berry?

The GAA funding the GPA means they are toothless. They will never take on the GAA and see the trough removed. So its controlled opposition, the facade of standing up for players.

Amateur players are not entitled to a thing. If they feel they deserve a slice, lets have a discussion about semi professionalism. On welfare, ok, things like insurance need to be in place. If the GPA disappear tomorrow players are no better or worse off. It is a vehicle to make some ex players a few bob and source some commercial work for the top few
Amateur players mightn't be entitle to anything but there's a strong argument that they deserve something which they are getting. I'd have thought the GPA are instrumental in that.

I also don't agree that the GPA are toothless. I imagine the grants issue will be revisited in years to come. It'll also be interesting to see if strike action is anywhere near the agenda come the Tier 2 championship next year.

johnnycool

Quote from: Esmarelda on November 13, 2019, 09:45:12 AM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on November 12, 2019, 10:21:04 PM
Quote from: Main Street on November 12, 2019, 10:00:57 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on November 12, 2019, 08:55:48 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on November 11, 2019, 09:42:10 PM
Quote from: joemamas on November 11, 2019, 03:42:42 PM
Just read Joe Brollys comments on GPA , spot on IMO.
They don't disclose who and how much gets paid what.
Are they full time or part time ?.
Wonder what the ratio of their salaries are as to what individual players in D3 and D4 get in annual mileage etc.


Probably a good idea in the very beginning as I am sure a lot of players were begging for mileage allowance, healthcare, but the lack of transparency and their mega fund raising dinners in the US
just raises a lot of genuine questions that apparently will not be answered.
Surely the gaa shouldn't be funding them until accounts are submitted for scrutiny every year?
The GAA shouldn't be funding them full stop. If the players want a union they should fund it themselves. If they want to be treated like soccer and rugby they should have to pony up like they do. And thats before the whole neutered topic comes up.
The players do not earn a salary. But the players do earn millions for the GAA by dint of their dedication and sacrifice with the game now being played at an almost 'professional' standard. The players are entitled to have a % of those earnings put back into looking after their welfare.
If Joe has any questions about how GPA money is being spent he can download the accounts and refer to actual figures rather than making wild assumptions.

Was that the article where Joe claimed after a challenge game  TCD v Meath that Sean Boylan rushed out to  phone up  Eamonn Coleman and point out that brilliant player for Trinity called Joe Brolly? What are the odds that Joe is confusing reality with a scene from that film 'Back to the Future' where the band member phoned up Chuck Berry?

The GAA funding the GPA means they are toothless. They will never take on the GAA and see the trough removed. So its controlled opposition, the facade of standing up for players.

Amateur players are not entitled to a thing. If they feel they deserve a slice, lets have a discussion about semi professionalism. On welfare, ok, things like insurance need to be in place. If the GPA disappear tomorrow players are no better or worse off. It is a vehicle to make some ex players a few bob and source some commercial work for the top few
Amateur players mightn't be entitle to anything but there's a strong argument that they deserve something which they are getting. I'd have thought the GPA are instrumental in that.

I also don't agree that the GPA are toothless. I imagine the grants issue will be revisited in years to come. It'll also be interesting to see if strike action is anywhere near the agenda come the Tier 2 championship next year.

Balbriggan is right, any craic of strike action out of the GPA and the steady stream of funds to Mr Flynn, Seamus and Co will be threatened.
Once they took the GAA money they neutered themselves and that was done out of pure greed and nothing to do with player welfare.

Esmarelda

Quote from: johnnycool on November 13, 2019, 01:55:34 PM
Quote from: Esmarelda on November 13, 2019, 09:45:12 AM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on November 12, 2019, 10:21:04 PM
Quote from: Main Street on November 12, 2019, 10:00:57 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on November 12, 2019, 08:55:48 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on November 11, 2019, 09:42:10 PM
Quote from: joemamas on November 11, 2019, 03:42:42 PM
Just read Joe Brollys comments on GPA , spot on IMO.
They don't disclose who and how much gets paid what.
Are they full time or part time ?.
Wonder what the ratio of their salaries are as to what individual players in D3 and D4 get in annual mileage etc.


Probably a good idea in the very beginning as I am sure a lot of players were begging for mileage allowance, healthcare, but the lack of transparency and their mega fund raising dinners in the US
just raises a lot of genuine questions that apparently will not be answered.
Surely the gaa shouldn't be funding them until accounts are submitted for scrutiny every year?
The GAA shouldn't be funding them full stop. If the players want a union they should fund it themselves. If they want to be treated like soccer and rugby they should have to pony up like they do. And thats before the whole neutered topic comes up.
The players do not earn a salary. But the players do earn millions for the GAA by dint of their dedication and sacrifice with the game now being played at an almost 'professional' standard. The players are entitled to have a % of those earnings put back into looking after their welfare.
If Joe has any questions about how GPA money is being spent he can download the accounts and refer to actual figures rather than making wild assumptions.

Was that the article where Joe claimed after a challenge game  TCD v Meath that Sean Boylan rushed out to  phone up  Eamonn Coleman and point out that brilliant player for Trinity called Joe Brolly? What are the odds that Joe is confusing reality with a scene from that film 'Back to the Future' where the band member phoned up Chuck Berry?

The GAA funding the GPA means they are toothless. They will never take on the GAA and see the trough removed. So its controlled opposition, the facade of standing up for players.

Amateur players are not entitled to a thing. If they feel they deserve a slice, lets have a discussion about semi professionalism. On welfare, ok, things like insurance need to be in place. If the GPA disappear tomorrow players are no better or worse off. It is a vehicle to make some ex players a few bob and source some commercial work for the top few
Amateur players mightn't be entitle to anything but there's a strong argument that they deserve something which they are getting. I'd have thought the GPA are instrumental in that.

I also don't agree that the GPA are toothless. I imagine the grants issue will be revisited in years to come. It'll also be interesting to see if strike action is anywhere near the agenda come the Tier 2 championship next year.

Balbriggan is right, any craic of strike action out of the GPA and the steady stream of funds to Mr Flynn, Seamus and Co will be threatened.
Once they took the GAA money they neutered themselves and that was done out of pure greed and nothing to do with player welfare.
What are you basing that assertion on?

Baile Brigín 2

Quote from: Esmarelda on November 13, 2019, 09:45:12 AM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on November 12, 2019, 10:21:04 PM
Quote from: Main Street on November 12, 2019, 10:00:57 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on November 12, 2019, 08:55:48 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on November 11, 2019, 09:42:10 PM
Quote from: joemamas on November 11, 2019, 03:42:42 PM
Just read Joe Brollys comments on GPA , spot on IMO.
They don't disclose who and how much gets paid what.
Are they full time or part time ?.
Wonder what the ratio of their salaries are as to what individual players in D3 and D4 get in annual mileage etc.


Probably a good idea in the very beginning as I am sure a lot of players were begging for mileage allowance, healthcare, but the lack of transparency and their mega fund raising dinners in the US
just raises a lot of genuine questions that apparently will not be answered.
Surely the gaa shouldn't be funding them until accounts are submitted for scrutiny every year?
The GAA shouldn't be funding them full stop. If the players want a union they should fund it themselves. If they want to be treated like soccer and rugby they should have to pony up like they do. And thats before the whole neutered topic comes up.
The players do not earn a salary. But the players do earn millions for the GAA by dint of their dedication and sacrifice with the game now being played at an almost 'professional' standard. The players are entitled to have a % of those earnings put back into looking after their welfare.
If Joe has any questions about how GPA money is being spent he can download the accounts and refer to actual figures rather than making wild assumptions.

Was that the article where Joe claimed after a challenge game  TCD v Meath that Sean Boylan rushed out to  phone up  Eamonn Coleman and point out that brilliant player for Trinity called Joe Brolly? What are the odds that Joe is confusing reality with a scene from that film 'Back to the Future' where the band member phoned up Chuck Berry?

The GAA funding the GPA means they are toothless. They will never take on the GAA and see the trough removed. So its controlled opposition, the facade of standing up for players.

Amateur players are not entitled to a thing. If they feel they deserve a slice, lets have a discussion about semi professionalism. On welfare, ok, things like insurance need to be in place. If the GPA disappear tomorrow players are no better or worse off. It is a vehicle to make some ex players a few bob and source some commercial work for the top few
Amateur players mightn't be entitle to anything but there's a strong argument that they deserve something which they are getting. I'd have thought the GPA are instrumental in that.

I also don't agree that the GPA are toothless. I imagine the grants issue will be revisited in years to come. It'll also be interesting to see if strike action is anywhere near the agenda come the Tier 2 championship next year.

They certainly were, 12 years ago. The GAA subsequently bought the revolution.

Also, does a union with corporate sponsorship not strike you as quare?

Keyser soze


Esmarelda

Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on November 13, 2019, 03:21:19 PM
Quote from: Esmarelda on November 13, 2019, 09:45:12 AM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on November 12, 2019, 10:21:04 PM
Quote from: Main Street on November 12, 2019, 10:00:57 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on November 12, 2019, 08:55:48 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on November 11, 2019, 09:42:10 PM
Quote from: joemamas on November 11, 2019, 03:42:42 PM
Just read Joe Brollys comments on GPA , spot on IMO.
They don't disclose who and how much gets paid what.
Are they full time or part time ?.
Wonder what the ratio of their salaries are as to what individual players in D3 and D4 get in annual mileage etc.


Probably a good idea in the very beginning as I am sure a lot of players were begging for mileage allowance, healthcare, but the lack of transparency and their mega fund raising dinners in the US
just raises a lot of genuine questions that apparently will not be answered.
Surely the gaa shouldn't be funding them until accounts are submitted for scrutiny every year?
The GAA shouldn't be funding them full stop. If the players want a union they should fund it themselves. If they want to be treated like soccer and rugby they should have to pony up like they do. And thats before the whole neutered topic comes up.
The players do not earn a salary. But the players do earn millions for the GAA by dint of their dedication and sacrifice with the game now being played at an almost 'professional' standard. The players are entitled to have a % of those earnings put back into looking after their welfare.
If Joe has any questions about how GPA money is being spent he can download the accounts and refer to actual figures rather than making wild assumptions.

Was that the article where Joe claimed after a challenge game  TCD v Meath that Sean Boylan rushed out to  phone up  Eamonn Coleman and point out that brilliant player for Trinity called Joe Brolly? What are the odds that Joe is confusing reality with a scene from that film 'Back to the Future' where the band member phoned up Chuck Berry?

The GAA funding the GPA means they are toothless. They will never take on the GAA and see the trough removed. So its controlled opposition, the facade of standing up for players.

Amateur players are not entitled to a thing. If they feel they deserve a slice, lets have a discussion about semi professionalism. On welfare, ok, things like insurance need to be in place. If the GPA disappear tomorrow players are no better or worse off. It is a vehicle to make some ex players a few bob and source some commercial work for the top few
Amateur players mightn't be entitle to anything but there's a strong argument that they deserve something which they are getting. I'd have thought the GPA are instrumental in that.

I also don't agree that the GPA are toothless. I imagine the grants issue will be revisited in years to come. It'll also be interesting to see if strike action is anywhere near the agenda come the Tier 2 championship next year.

They certainly were, 12 years ago. The GAA subsequently bought the revolution.

Also, does a union with corporate sponsorship not strike you as quare?
Never thought about it. Suppose it does.

manfromdelmonte

Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on November 13, 2019, 03:21:19 PM
Quote from: Esmarelda on November 13, 2019, 09:45:12 AM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on November 12, 2019, 10:21:04 PM
Quote from: Main Street on November 12, 2019, 10:00:57 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on November 12, 2019, 08:55:48 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on November 11, 2019, 09:42:10 PM
Quote from: joemamas on November 11, 2019, 03:42:42 PM
Just read Joe Brollys comments on GPA , spot on IMO.
They don't disclose who and how much gets paid what.
Are they full time or part time ?.
Wonder what the ratio of their salaries are as to what individual players in D3 and D4 get in annual mileage etc.


Probably a good idea in the very beginning as I am sure a lot of players were begging for mileage allowance, healthcare, but the lack of transparency and their mega fund raising dinners in the US
just raises a lot of genuine questions that apparently will not be answered.
Surely the gaa shouldn't be funding them until accounts are submitted for scrutiny every year?
The GAA shouldn't be funding them full stop. If the players want a union they should fund it themselves. If they want to be treated like soccer and rugby they should have to pony up like they do. And thats before the whole neutered topic comes up.
The players do not earn a salary. But the players do earn millions for the GAA by dint of their dedication and sacrifice with the game now being played at an almost 'professional' standard. The players are entitled to have a % of those earnings put back into looking after their welfare.
If Joe has any questions about how GPA money is being spent he can download the accounts and refer to actual figures rather than making wild assumptions.

Was that the article where Joe claimed after a challenge game  TCD v Meath that Sean Boylan rushed out to  phone up  Eamonn Coleman and point out that brilliant player for Trinity called Joe Brolly? What are the odds that Joe is confusing reality with a scene from that film 'Back to the Future' where the band member phoned up Chuck Berry?

The GAA funding the GPA means they are toothless. They will never take on the GAA and see the trough removed. So its controlled opposition, the facade of standing up for players.

Amateur players are not entitled to a thing. If they feel they deserve a slice, lets have a discussion about semi professionalism. On welfare, ok, things like insurance need to be in place. If the GPA disappear tomorrow players are no better or worse off. It is a vehicle to make some ex players a few bob and source some commercial work for the top few
Amateur players mightn't be entitle to anything but there's a strong argument that they deserve something which they are getting. I'd have thought the GPA are instrumental in that.

I also don't agree that the GPA are toothless. I imagine the grants issue will be revisited in years to come. It'll also be interesting to see if strike action is anywhere near the agenda come the Tier 2 championship next year.

They certainly were, 12 years ago. The GAA subsequently bought the revolution.

Also, does a union with corporate sponsorship not strike you as quare?
Corporate Partners
At least get the bullsh1t language correct

Baile Brigín 2

Quote from: manfromdelmonte on November 13, 2019, 05:38:43 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on November 13, 2019, 03:21:19 PM
Quote from: Esmarelda on November 13, 2019, 09:45:12 AM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on November 12, 2019, 10:21:04 PM
Quote from: Main Street on November 12, 2019, 10:00:57 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on November 12, 2019, 08:55:48 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on November 11, 2019, 09:42:10 PM
Quote from: joemamas on November 11, 2019, 03:42:42 PM
Just read Joe Brollys comments on GPA , spot on IMO.
They don't disclose who and how much gets paid what.
Are they full time or part time ?.
Wonder what the ratio of their salaries are as to what individual players in D3 and D4 get in annual mileage etc.


Probably a good idea in the very beginning as I am sure a lot of players were begging for mileage allowance, healthcare, but the lack of transparency and their mega fund raising dinners in the US
just raises a lot of genuine questions that apparently will not be answered.
Surely the gaa shouldn't be funding them until accounts are submitted for scrutiny every year?
The GAA shouldn't be funding them full stop. If the players want a union they should fund it themselves. If they want to be treated like soccer and rugby they should have to pony up like they do. And thats before the whole neutered topic comes up.
The players do not earn a salary. But the players do earn millions for the GAA by dint of their dedication and sacrifice with the game now being played at an almost 'professional' standard. The players are entitled to have a % of those earnings put back into looking after their welfare.
If Joe has any questions about how GPA money is being spent he can download the accounts and refer to actual figures rather than making wild assumptions.

Was that the article where Joe claimed after a challenge game  TCD v Meath that Sean Boylan rushed out to  phone up  Eamonn Coleman and point out that brilliant player for Trinity called Joe Brolly? What are the odds that Joe is confusing reality with a scene from that film 'Back to the Future' where the band member phoned up Chuck Berry?

The GAA funding the GPA means they are toothless. They will never take on the GAA and see the trough removed. So its controlled opposition, the facade of standing up for players.

Amateur players are not entitled to a thing. If they feel they deserve a slice, lets have a discussion about semi professionalism. On welfare, ok, things like insurance need to be in place. If the GPA disappear tomorrow players are no better or worse off. It is a vehicle to make some ex players a few bob and source some commercial work for the top few
Amateur players mightn't be entitle to anything but there's a strong argument that they deserve something which they are getting. I'd have thought the GPA are instrumental in that.

I also don't agree that the GPA are toothless. I imagine the grants issue will be revisited in years to come. It'll also be interesting to see if strike action is anywhere near the agenda come the Tier 2 championship next year.

They certainly were, 12 years ago. The GAA subsequently bought the revolution.

Also, does a union with corporate sponsorship not strike you as quare?
Corporate Partners
At least get the bullsh1t language correct

My apologies.

Why does a union need them?


Hound

Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on November 13, 2019, 06:46:32 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on November 13, 2019, 05:38:43 PM

Corporate Partners
At least get the bullsh1t language correct

My apologies.

Why does a union need them?


To help fund player welfare and player development. The funds go towards providing services and support in the areas of Career Development, Education, Life Focus and Health and Wellbeing. For example:

- The GPA provides nutrition training for GPA members on a regular basis and also runs a nutrition programme as part of the GPA Rookie Camp.

- The GPA, as part of squad visits, provides all players anti-doping education before the championship season starts.

- The GPA Cardiac Screening Programme is a nationwide service available to all GPA members. The GPA have engaged with Advanced Medical Services (AMS) who provide a mobile cardiac screening service to all squads. All screening and follow up procedures for any GPA member is supported by the GPA.

- The GPA provides an injured player support program. It provides an opportunity for the injured, to invest & focus time into other areas of their lives, which will contribute to their dual-career, throughout their recovery.

- The GPA, in partnership with opro, have implemented a dental protection scheme to ensure players are provided with custom-fit mouthguards.

Baile Brigín 2


heffo


johnnycool

Quote from: Esmarelda on November 13, 2019, 02:17:13 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on November 13, 2019, 01:55:34 PM
Quote from: Esmarelda on November 13, 2019, 09:45:12 AM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on November 12, 2019, 10:21:04 PM
Quote from: Main Street on November 12, 2019, 10:00:57 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on November 12, 2019, 08:55:48 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on November 11, 2019, 09:42:10 PM
Quote from: joemamas on November 11, 2019, 03:42:42 PM
Just read Joe Brollys comments on GPA , spot on IMO.
They don't disclose who and how much gets paid what.
Are they full time or part time ?.
Wonder what the ratio of their salaries are as to what individual players in D3 and D4 get in annual mileage etc.


Probably a good idea in the very beginning as I am sure a lot of players were begging for mileage allowance, healthcare, but the lack of transparency and their mega fund raising dinners in the US
just raises a lot of genuine questions that apparently will not be answered.
Surely the gaa shouldn't be funding them until accounts are submitted for scrutiny every year?
The GAA shouldn't be funding them full stop. If the players want a union they should fund it themselves. If they want to be treated like soccer and rugby they should have to pony up like they do. And thats before the whole neutered topic comes up.
The players do not earn a salary. But the players do earn millions for the GAA by dint of their dedication and sacrifice with the game now being played at an almost 'professional' standard. The players are entitled to have a % of those earnings put back into looking after their welfare.
If Joe has any questions about how GPA money is being spent he can download the accounts and refer to actual figures rather than making wild assumptions.

Was that the article where Joe claimed after a challenge game  TCD v Meath that Sean Boylan rushed out to  phone up  Eamonn Coleman and point out that brilliant player for Trinity called Joe Brolly? What are the odds that Joe is confusing reality with a scene from that film 'Back to the Future' where the band member phoned up Chuck Berry?

The GAA funding the GPA means they are toothless. They will never take on the GAA and see the trough removed. So its controlled opposition, the facade of standing up for players.

Amateur players are not entitled to a thing. If they feel they deserve a slice, lets have a discussion about semi professionalism. On welfare, ok, things like insurance need to be in place. If the GPA disappear tomorrow players are no better or worse off. It is a vehicle to make some ex players a few bob and source some commercial work for the top few
Amateur players mightn't be entitle to anything but there's a strong argument that they deserve something which they are getting. I'd have thought the GPA are instrumental in that.

I also don't agree that the GPA are toothless. I imagine the grants issue will be revisited in years to come. It'll also be interesting to see if strike action is anywhere near the agenda come the Tier 2 championship next year.

Balbriggan is right, any craic of strike action out of the GPA and the steady stream of funds to Mr Flynn, Seamus and Co will be threatened.
Once they took the GAA money they neutered themselves and that was done out of pure greed and nothing to do with player welfare.
What are you basing that assertion on?

Basing it on the fact of being one of the original GPA members (paid my dues) and how they lost their way early on.

Their intentions were great in standardising county player entitlements for everyone irrespective of what county you played for and things did improve from what lads on county teams get now to what I got back in the day.

I didn't sign up for having "executives" and directors on big salaries dictating on rules and regulations in Croke Park, sorties for the elites to Boston or whatever.
There are still some good things coming out of the GPA in terms on support and mental health but we really don't need those overheads to do it.

Esmarelda

Johnny, what do you mean by dictating on rules and regulations?

joemamas

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Quote from: johnnycool on November 14, 2019, 01:59:25 PM
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Quote from: Main Street on November 12, 2019, 10:00:57 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on November 12, 2019, 08:55:48 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on November 11, 2019, 09:42:10 PM
Quote from: joemamas on November 11, 2019, 03:42:42 PM
Just read Joe Brollys comments on GPA , spot on IMO.
They don't disclose who and how much gets paid what.
Are they full time or part time ?.
Wonder what the ratio of their salaries are as to what individual players in D3 and D4 get in annual mileage etc.


Probably a good idea in the very beginning as I am sure a lot of players were begging for mileage allowance, healthcare, but the lack of transparency and their mega fund raising dinners in the US
just raises a lot of genuine questions that apparently will not be answered.
Surely the gaa shouldn't be funding them until accounts are submitted for scrutiny every year?
The GAA shouldn't be funding them full stop. If the players want a union they should fund it themselves. If they want to be treated like soccer and rugby they should have to pony up like they do. And thats before the whole neutered topic comes up.
The players do not earn a salary. But the players do earn millions for the GAA by dint of their dedication and sacrifice with the game now being played at an almost 'professional' standard. The players are entitled to have a % of those earnings put back into looking after their welfare.
If Joe has any questions about how GPA money is being spent he can download the accounts and refer to actual figures rather than making wild assumptions.

Was that the article where Joe claimed after a challenge game  TCD v Meath that Sean Boylan rushed out to  phone up  Eamonn Coleman and point out that brilliant player for Trinity called Joe Brolly? What are the odds that Joe is confusing reality with a scene from that film 'Back to the Future' where the band member phoned up Chuck Berry?

The GAA funding the GPA means they are toothless. They will never take on the GAA and see the trough removed. So its controlled opposition, the facade of standing up for players.

Amateur players are not entitled to a thing. If they feel they deserve a slice, lets have a discussion about semi professionalism. On welfare, ok, things like insurance need to be in place. If the GPA disappear tomorrow players are no better or worse off. It is a vehicle to make some ex players a few bob and source some commercial work for the top few
Amateur players mightn't be entitle to anything but there's a strong argument that they deserve something which they are getting. I'd have thought the GPA are instrumental in that.

I also don't agree that the GPA are toothless. I imagine the grants issue will be revisited in years to come. It'll also be interesting to see if strike action is anywhere near the agenda come the Tier 2 championship next year.

Balbriggan is right, any craic of strike action out of the GPA and the steady stream of funds to Mr Flynn, Seamus and Co will be threatened.
Once they took the GAA money they neutered themselves and that was done out of pure greed and nothing to do with player welfare.
What are you basing that assertion on?

Basing it on the fact of being one of the original GPA members (paid my dues) and how they lost their way early on.

Their intentions were great in standardising county player entitlements for everyone irrespective of what county you played for and things did improve from what lads on county teams get now to what I got back in the day.

I didn't sign up for having "executives" and directors on big salaries dictating on rules and regulations in Croke Park, sorties for the elites to Boston or whatever.
There are still some good things coming out of the GPA in terms on support and mental health but we really don't need those overheads to do it.

sums up my point and more.

When you hear the arguments for by the prior posts, and this rebuttal from a member.

TKO for the latter.

Call it for what it is, An elite group, who take dues and wont disclose financials,