Van attack in Barcelona

[The Iceman]

1. The capital of Belgium is the jihadist capital of Europe. Islamic terrorist Salah Abdeslam fled to Brussels after attacking Paris. He was aided and embedded by Muslim locals. Belgian authorities caught Abdeslam over the weekend. Police believe the attack on Tuesday was a response to the arrest.

2. Belgium has the highest per capita of recruited fighters of any nation in Europe. Over 500 Muslims from Belgium have joined jihadist groups. Most come from Brussels.

3. Belgium-based Islamic extremism is highly concentrated in specific locales of Brussels, specifically, the Muslim-populated Molenbeek district. The small area contains 22 known mosques. Many of the Muslims that have joined jihad come from this district.

4. Parts of Brussels have been described as Muslim "no go zones." Molenbeek has attracted over 600 extremist imams since 1980. Many in the small district follow Sharia law and shun outsiders.

5. 70% of Brussel's population is foreign, namely immigrants Turkey, Morocco, and France. The multicultural nature of the city has prompted authorities to turn a blind eye to suspicious activity all in the service of "tolerance."

Your numbers come from 2008/9  - is that 6% still 6 %? Brussels was listed as 25% Muslim in 2008 also. What number is that now?
Muslims don't believe in abortion or euthenasia...white westerners do. It may seem insignificant but it all adds up it all compounds. 1.3 children is sustaining the population, 4 kids per muslim family doubles their population. So white europeans are going down at the rate of 50% and muslim population is increasing at a rate of 200% or more...I don't think it's far fetched to say Brussels will be a muslim majority very soon? Is belgium that far fetched either?

5%. And it sounds very much like you're trying to grasp at straws when you got called out on your hyperbole.

If you think that the children of any religious grouping will be as religious as they are now in even 15-20 years, let alone the many millenniums and incredible turns of fortune it would take for such a small minority to become the majority in a western country, you don't see the direction the wind is blowing. Secularism is winning in the west, not Islam.

secularism can't win when secular people are not even able to sustain their population. How does that work? 1.3 children per "family" older people dying off, older people choosing assisted suicide (big story about it this week). Muslims are 4 kids per family and running tight family units (so far). I've seen no evidence that they aren't religious because there parents are... its a numbers game and muslims will win it
Sharia law is no joke

White "christians" aren't the majority. Cultural christians perhaps but they are not Christians.... it's already secular

[Esmarelda]

New attack in Finland

Saw this on Newstalk's twitter but not a word about it even in the sub headlines on RTE. Strange.

[LCohen]

1. The capital of Belgium is the jihadist capital of Europe. Islamic terrorist Salah Abdeslam fled to Brussels after attacking Paris. He was aided and embedded by Muslim locals. Belgian authorities caught Abdeslam over the weekend. Police believe the attack on Tuesday was a response to the arrest.

2. Belgium has the highest per capita of recruited fighters of any nation in Europe. Over 500 Muslims from Belgium have joined jihadist groups. Most come from Brussels.

3. Belgium-based Islamic extremism is highly concentrated in specific locales of Brussels, specifically, the Muslim-populated Molenbeek district. The small area contains 22 known mosques. Many of the Muslims that have joined jihad come from this district.

4. Parts of Brussels have been described as Muslim "no go zones." Molenbeek has attracted over 600 extremist imams since 1980. Many in the small district follow Sharia law and shun outsiders.

5. 70% of Brussel's population is foreign, namely immigrants Turkey, Morocco, and France. The multicultural nature of the city has prompted authorities to turn a blind eye to suspicious activity all in the service of "tolerance."

Your numbers come from 2008/9  - is that 6% still 6 %? Brussels was listed as 25% Muslim in 2008 also. What number is that now?
Muslims don't believe in abortion or euthenasia...white westerners do. It may seem insignificant but it all adds up it all compounds. 1.3 children is sustaining the population, 4 kids per muslim family doubles their population. So white europeans are going down at the rate of 50% and muslim population is increasing at a rate of 200% or more...I don't think it's far fetched to say Brussels will be a muslim majority very soon? Is belgium that far fetched either?

5%. And it sounds very much like you're trying to grasp at straws when you got called out on your hyperbole.

If you think that the children of any religious grouping will be as religious as they are now in even 15-20 years, let alone the many millenniums and incredible turns of fortune it would take for such a small minority to become the majority in a western country, you don't see the direction the wind is blowing. Secularism is winning in the west, not Islam.

secularism can't win when secular people are not even able to sustain their population. How does that work? 1.3 children per "family" older people dying off, older people choosing assisted suicide (big story about it this week). Muslims are 4 kids per family and running tight family units (so far). I've seen no evidence that they aren't religious because there parents are... its a numbers game and muslims will win it
Sharia law is no joke

White "christians" aren't the majority. Cultural christians perhaps but they are not Christians.... it's already secular

Secularism doesn't rely on 2 secularists riding and a little secularist popping out.

People are not born secularist. They are not born Christian or Muslim either no matter how much spiritualists try to claim them.

Sharia law is no joke. Neither us Christian fundamentalism. As we can see

[Milltown Row2]

New attack in Finland

Saw this on Newstalk's twitter but not a word about it even in the sub headlines on RTE. Strange.

was on bbc thread
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-40978446

[Franko]

There was 5 killed and 2 arrested lately, the 5 killed had fake bomb belts on that's 7 lone wolf's just hanging around the same place?

yes you'll get the crack pot, who's probably not even linked to any organisation and that is impossible to stop, bollards barriers and police manpower but in most cases this is not random, well picked populated cities with a group involved, money, fake ID,  and other means to buy/rent vans/cars for these.. well supported radicalised people...

I believe the ones killed were very young late teens early 20's, easy to manipulate

All these people were caught AFTER the event MR, when they had put their head above the parapet so to speak.  Have you EVER heard of any terrorist being arrested for planning an attack with a car?  Intelligence agencies haven't a chance with this.

[punt kick]

There was 5 killed and 2 arrested lately, the 5 killed had fake bomb belts on that's 7 lone wolf's just hanging around the same place?

yes you'll get the crack pot, who's probably not even linked to any organisation and that is impossible to stop, bollards barriers and police manpower but in most cases this is not random, well picked populated cities with a group involved, money, fake ID,  and other means to buy/rent vans/cars for these.. well supported radicalised people...

I believe the ones killed were very young late teens early 20's, easy to manipulate

All these people were caught AFTER the event MR, when they had put their head above the parapet so to speak.  Have you EVER heard of any terrorist being arrested for planning an attack with a car?  Intelligence agencies haven't a chance with this.

Nail on head - society today is fucked, social media and the internet has a lot to answer for, any gormless halfwit can be groomed to do anything, or any gormless halfwit can go down in flames on an international stage carrying out a cowardly act.  Unfortunately the press these events get globally will only inspire other fuckwits to act similarly, even those not radicalised can simply follow these cowards if they have any sore of grievance, bit like that pilot who flew the plane into a mountain. 

[The Iceman]

1. The capital of Belgium is the jihadist capital of Europe. Islamic terrorist Salah Abdeslam fled to Brussels after attacking Paris. He was aided and embedded by Muslim locals. Belgian authorities caught Abdeslam over the weekend. Police believe the attack on Tuesday was a response to the arrest.

2. Belgium has the highest per capita of recruited fighters of any nation in Europe. Over 500 Muslims from Belgium have joined jihadist groups. Most come from Brussels.

3. Belgium-based Islamic extremism is highly concentrated in specific locales of Brussels, specifically, the Muslim-populated Molenbeek district. The small area contains 22 known mosques. Many of the Muslims that have joined jihad come from this district.

4. Parts of Brussels have been described as Muslim "no go zones." Molenbeek has attracted over 600 extremist imams since 1980. Many in the small district follow Sharia law and shun outsiders.

5. 70% of Brussel's population is foreign, namely immigrants Turkey, Morocco, and France. The multicultural nature of the city has prompted authorities to turn a blind eye to suspicious activity all in the service of "tolerance."

Your numbers come from 2008/9  - is that 6% still 6 %? Brussels was listed as 25% Muslim in 2008 also. What number is that now?
Muslims don't believe in abortion or euthenasia...white westerners do. It may seem insignificant but it all adds up it all compounds. 1.3 children is sustaining the population, 4 kids per muslim family doubles their population. So white europeans are going down at the rate of 50% and muslim population is increasing at a rate of 200% or more...I don't think it's far fetched to say Brussels will be a muslim majority very soon? Is belgium that far fetched either?

5%. And it sounds very much like you're trying to grasp at straws when you got called out on your hyperbole.

If you think that the children of any religious grouping will be as religious as they are now in even 15-20 years, let alone the many millenniums and incredible turns of fortune it would take for such a small minority to become the majority in a western country, you don't see the direction the wind is blowing. Secularism is winning in the west, not Islam.

secularism can't win when secular people are not even able to sustain their population. How does that work? 1.3 children per "family" older people dying off, older people choosing assisted suicide (big story about it this week). Muslims are 4 kids per family and running tight family units (so far). I've seen no evidence that they aren't religious because there parents are... its a numbers game and muslims will win it
Sharia law is no joke

White "christians" aren't the majority. Cultural christians perhaps but they are not Christians.... it's already secular

Secularism doesn't rely on 2 secularists riding and a little secularist popping out.

People are not born secularist. They are not born Christian or Muslim either no matter how much spiritualists try to claim them.

Sharia law is no joke. Neither us Christian fundamentalism. As we can see

I'll take a radical Catholic like Padre Pio over a radical muslim like your mate Bin Laden any day.
Mother Theresa was a radical Catholic  - she wasn't lopping off childrens heads or drowning families in dunk tanks
you can have your sharia law and radical islam
peace

[gallsman]

f**king state of that argument. "Your mate bin Laden".

[Esmarelda]

There was 5 killed and 2 arrested lately, the 5 killed had fake bomb belts on that's 7 lone wolf's just hanging around the same place?

yes you'll get the crack pot, who's probably not even linked to any organisation and that is impossible to stop, bollards barriers and police manpower but in most cases this is not random, well picked populated cities with a group involved, money, fake ID,  and other means to buy/rent vans/cars for these.. well supported radicalised people...

I believe the ones killed were very young late teens early 20's, easy to manipulate

All these people were caught AFTER the event MR, when they had put their head above the parapet so to speak.  Have you EVER heard of any terrorist being arrested for planning an attack with a car?  Intelligence agencies haven't a chance with this.

Nail on head - society today is fucked, social media and the internet has a lot to answer for, any gormless halfwit can be groomed to do anything, or any gormless halfwit can go down in flames on an international stage carrying out a cowardly act.  Unfortunately the press these events get globally will only inspire other fuckwits to act similarly, even those not radicalised can simply follow these cowards if they have any sore of grievance, bit like that pilot who flew the plane into a mountain.

How has it a lot to answer for? It makes communication easier for everyone, including those that want to harm others, and so it should take some of the blame? I'm engaging with you now. If you go out and kick a dog because I annoy you is it the board's fault?

[punt kick]

Yeah because we are talking about kicking a dog here. So many gobshites with their head in the sand or up their arse no wonder society is heading towards a cliff edge.

[Esmarelda]

Yeah because we are talking about kicking a dog here. So many gobshites with their head in the sand or up their arse no wonder society is heading towards a cliff edge.

Surely it's easier to explain your point than typing a sentence full of sensational idioms with little substance.

[punt kick]

I am in my 5th decade on this planet and knew a time of rules and boundaries. Most kids exist within the social and virtual society online in which there are no rules and boundaries. Anything goes, anything can be posted - shared etc. Society is becoming so use to extremism on a daily basis it is fast losing it's moral compass. Technology for all its good is going to be our downfall and social media is playing its part.

[Syferus]

I am in my 5th decade on this planet and knew a time of rules and boundaries. Most kids exist within the social and virtual society online in which there are no rules and boundaries. Anything goes, anything can be posted - shared etc. Society is becoming so use to extremism on a daily basis it is fast losing it's moral compass. Technology for all its good is going to be our downfall and social media is playing its part.

Your five decades have granted you little wisdom. Every generation grows old and can't understand the changes they see in the youth. The world has been about to end for as long as a words or pictures have been recorded on the side of a rocks.

You are in the great wheel of life and you can't even see it.

[LCohen]

1. The capital of Belgium is the jihadist capital of Europe. Islamic terrorist Salah Abdeslam fled to Brussels after attacking Paris. He was aided and embedded by Muslim locals. Belgian authorities caught Abdeslam over the weekend. Police believe the attack on Tuesday was a response to the arrest.

2. Belgium has the highest per capita of recruited fighters of any nation in Europe. Over 500 Muslims from Belgium have joined jihadist groups. Most come from Brussels.

3. Belgium-based Islamic extremism is highly concentrated in specific locales of Brussels, specifically, the Muslim-populated Molenbeek district. The small area contains 22 known mosques. Many of the Muslims that have joined jihad come from this district.

4. Parts of Brussels have been described as Muslim "no go zones." Molenbeek has attracted over 600 extremist imams since 1980. Many in the small district follow Sharia law and shun outsiders.

5. 70% of Brussel's population is foreign, namely immigrants Turkey, Morocco, and France. The multicultural nature of the city has prompted authorities to turn a blind eye to suspicious activity all in the service of "tolerance."

Your numbers come from 2008/9  - is that 6% still 6 %? Brussels was listed as 25% Muslim in 2008 also. What number is that now?
Muslims don't believe in abortion or euthenasia...white westerners do. It may seem insignificant but it all adds up it all compounds. 1.3 children is sustaining the population, 4 kids per muslim family doubles their population. So white europeans are going down at the rate of 50% and muslim population is increasing at a rate of 200% or more...I don't think it's far fetched to say Brussels will be a muslim majority very soon? Is belgium that far fetched either?

5%. And it sounds very much like you're trying to grasp at straws when you got called out on your hyperbole.

If you think that the children of any religious grouping will be as religious as they are now in even 15-20 years, let alone the many millenniums and incredible turns of fortune it would take for such a small minority to become the majority in a western country, you don't see the direction the wind is blowing. Secularism is winning in the west, not Islam.

secularism can't win when secular people are not even able to sustain their population. How does that work? 1.3 children per "family" older people dying off, older people choosing assisted suicide (big story about it this week). Muslims are 4 kids per family and running tight family units (so far). I've seen no evidence that they aren't religious because there parents are... its a numbers game and muslims will win it
Sharia law is no joke

White "christians" aren't the majority. Cultural christians perhaps but they are not Christians.... it's already secular

Secularism doesn't rely on 2 secularists riding and a little secularist popping out.

People are not born secularist. They are not born Christian or Muslim either no matter how much spiritualists try to claim them.

Sharia law is no joke. Neither us Christian fundamentalism. As we can see

I'll take a radical Catholic like Padre Pio over a radical muslim like your mate Bin Laden any day.
Mother Theresa was a radical Catholic  - she wasn't lopping off childrens heads or drowning families in dunk tanks
you can have your sharia law and radical islam
peace

Is this the sort of horse dung you are going to retort with?

My mate Bin Laden?? Any evidence for that? If you are going to debase all argument with this sort of cowardice I might as well accuse you of not only being a practicing child abuser but the global architect of all abuse. I would be offering the same amount of supporting evidence.

Likewise my sharia law?? Which barrel are you scraping this stuff from? Are you really throwing the towel in this easily? Has your argument got nothing better to hang on to?

Padre Pio. Fraudulent self harmers are always good for backing up a point.

Teresa. Now there's a girl who knew how to stand in the way of helping people. Ever talk to the aid workers trying to get something done in Calcutta?

[punt kick]

I am in my 5th decade on this planet and knew a time of rules and boundaries. Most kids exist within the social and virtual society online in which there are no rules and boundaries. Anything goes, anything can be posted - shared etc. Society is becoming so use to extremism on a daily basis it is fast losing it's moral compass. Technology for all its good is going to be our downfall and social media is playing its part.

Your five decades have granted you little wisdom. Every generation grows old and can't understand the changes they see in the youth. The world has been about to end for as long as a words or pictures have been recorded on the side of a rocks.

You are in the great wheel of life and you can't even see it.

I am in the 5th decade  and we are in a car with the wheels about to come off. As a society we are at the abyss. Look at the images online even on normal individuals its all false photoshoped crap, why - reality is a thing of the past.