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Re: Belfast GAA is dying...
« Reply #15 on: February 18, 2017, 01:54:31 PM »
Since a started this debate last night there have been a number of quality contributions

- A 5 team Div 1 league in SA giving only 8 matches is shocking! The SA board can't control who enters the competition but when they saw the entrants surely they must have thought we better do something here ...hook up with SW, All county etc - anyone know if they tried to find a solution?
- Belfast clubs lack off facilities - St Johns,St Pauls, Sarsfields, Rossa are all land locked with no room to expand and with no land its harder to get a plan together. Having another pitch at another venue isn't ideal but that is the road these clubs have to go down unless at county level some council pitches can be acquired for solely GAA use thinking of Boucher / Falls Park / Woodlands but these type of proposal need county board involvement and leadership

There is no one solution for the worrying signs in Belfast / SA (SW won the minor, u21, junior, intermediate, senior football championship last year) but the county board seem to be focused on Casement and the count Hurling scene in all public statements....

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Re: Belfast GAA is dying...
« Reply #16 on: February 18, 2017, 04:09:09 PM »
Clubs in Belfast have to address that themselves when it comes to not winning any championships last year. It's not as if the county board is promoting football in the south west and that success was not all about pitches and development. City teams having as much access to gym/4g as country clubs.

As for all county underage leagues, it's difficult. I know from our experience our minors had a couple of seasons with very few games with some clubs not travelling out of the city on a Tuesday night. I can totally understand why, it's hard to get long distance games in midweek for teams in the county.

Start with the club structures and the rest will come and in my opinion either revamp the development squads or get rid of them completely. 

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Re: Belfast GAA is dying...
« Reply #17 on: February 19, 2017, 12:13:56 AM »
My arguement is not about having to prices it is about ur club members pushing on and working hard to be as successful as they can.sw clubs who have a far smaller pick work very hard to sustain and grow there clubs(not saying indivuals dont do it in belfast) but its seems that sw put more into there coaching.yes there is the parish side but in belfast if ur da plays and his da is that not tradition enough to get the young boy out.seems such people in belfast would rather be seen on county boards rather than go and coach an 8 year old(eg ccc)

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Re: Belfast GAA is dying...
« Reply #18 on: February 19, 2017, 10:50:07 AM »
Anyone worried at the state of the GAA Belfast?

- Colin Gaels field no boys team in hurling and football
- McDermotts has folded 3 or4 years ago
- Dwyers has no teams
- St Agnes/Eire Og/ Lisburn are amalgamated at juvenile level to field
- St Teresas & Davitts aren't fielding at u16 and minor

Many clubs are also struggling with only one pitch unlike many south west clubs who have 2 pitches....

While the teams you mention are struggling for their own reasons others are doing very well.  Outside of the big clubs St Paul's, Sarsfields, St John's, Lamh Dearg are all on the up in the West while Southside St Brigids has sideshow-Joe as its unelected president/ recruiting eejit agent and  Bredagh is prospering.  The North of the City is a problem tho with Ardoyne making no headway at all. 
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Re: Belfast GAA is dying...
« Reply #19 on: February 19, 2017, 11:33:22 AM »
Too many clubs in Belfast with no great structure to fix it.... that's been happening for years but they've managed to produce a greater amount of championship than the SW ever has and not just within Antrim! So in a season or two were the SW manage to win things it's now a crisis for Belfast GAA??

When Belfast clubs were winning did it become a crisis for SW clubs?? No, it's just their turn to produce winning teams, in a few years it will be someone else's turn..it will be a crisis when the numbers drop cause in my view based on teams from late 70's early 80's the numbers weren't great compared to now
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Re: Belfast GAA is dying...
« Reply #20 on: February 19, 2017, 11:36:09 AM »
With Ardoyne gaining promotion to Div2 (all be it they will struggle) and the new facilities at the cricky there's some progress no?
I also know some young fellas who are involved in the youth coaching.
Not sure about their numbers but I would see the above as positives no?

I assume this thread is more aimed towards antrim but on our club the senior footballers are now senior championship so I would hope we can push on and get more youth through to keep us at that level.

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« Reply #21 on: February 19, 2017, 02:29:51 PM »
Was it not suggested on the football thread before Christmas that south antrim kill off all "small" clubs that don't put our team and let players move to big clubs like Rossa, St Johns & St Galls?

I know my own club suffered with teams not travelling from the city during the week for minor football so all county leagues don't work.

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Re: Belfast GAA is dying...
« Reply #22 on: February 19, 2017, 02:45:09 PM »
Ha! Here we go again....
Belfast teams don't fulfil their fixtures at underage.
Where have we heard that before?
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Re: Belfast GAA is dying...
« Reply #23 on: February 19, 2017, 02:47:56 PM »
Was it not suggested on the football thread before Christmas that south antrim kill off all "small" clubs that don't put our team and let players move to big clubs like Rossa, St Johns & St Galls?

I know my own club suffered with teams not travelling from the city during the week for minor football so all county leagues don't work.

They do work, I've refereed enough games to see games being called off in both directions or teams playing with very understrength sides and getting a mauling...

There are too many clubs in Belfast, is completely different to killing off smaller clubs, but sure you go ahead and make things up
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Re: Belfast GAA is dying...
« Reply #24 on: February 19, 2017, 02:53:35 PM »
SW have a clean sweep of football trophies for 1 year and Belfast GAA is on its knees. Some of you boys are clean mad.
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Re: Belfast GAA is dying...
« Reply #25 on: February 19, 2017, 04:43:45 PM »
SW have a clean sweep of football trophies for 1 year and Belfast GAA is on its knees. Some of you boys are clean mad.

My first part was sarcasm lol

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Re: Belfast GAA is dying...
« Reply #26 on: February 19, 2017, 05:03:56 PM »
SW have a clean sweep of football trophies for 1 year and Belfast GAA is on its knees. Some of you boys are clean mad.

My first part was sarcasm lol

You'd need to put some smiley face on end of it, that way we'd know you're not being a dick  :o
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Re: Belfast GAA is dying...
« Reply #27 on: February 19, 2017, 06:19:54 PM »
SW have a clean sweep of football trophies for 1 year and Belfast GAA is on its knees. Some of you boys are clean mad.

My first part was sarcasm lol

You'd need to put some smiley face on end of it, that way we'd know you're not being a dick  :o

You'd need to f**k aff..

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Re: Belfast GAA is dying...
« Reply #28 on: February 19, 2017, 06:29:07 PM »
SW have a clean sweep of football trophies for 1 year and Belfast GAA is on its knees. Some of you boys are clean mad.

My first part was sarcasm lol

You'd need to put some smiley face on end of it, that way we'd know you're not being a dick  :o

You'd need to f**k aff..

Are you being sarcastic??
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Re: Belfast GAA is dying...
« Reply #29 on: February 19, 2017, 10:10:17 PM »
Well when we provide U16s footballers with an 8 game league - 8 games - that's just not good enough Soccer by contrast is able to provide 20 games in a row, without fail, every Saturday am.

If we can't get more than 5 teams to enter Div 1 U16 football in south Antrim, then its time to move to all county.

I think this is one of the most important points here. All underage boys/girls want is to play games. We (Antrim GAA) need to be smarter here and ensure all our children are getting as many games as a young boy/girl from a soccer/rugby background. Do whatever it takes to make this happen. There must be a simple solution to this.