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Antrim / Re: Antrim Football Thread
« on: February 05, 2018, 09:49:25 PM »
Super result yesterday, was worried about that one. With Wicklow up next and them not going well, hopefully its a perfect 3 wins out of 3 as we head into games that are potentially more difficult.

Hard not to be impressed with the workrate, commitment and set up.
the last managers blooded some of the lads who are playing well now so fair play to them and Lenny

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Can anyone tell me how an u20 grade with an u17 will help clubs?

At county level it suits but an u20 team will surely be a problem for Reserve and Senior teams. Players who have made the senior team may not want to play u20. If playing u20 and senior is there not a burn out issue?

Love to see a document showing the benefits of the changes for clubs - anyone have one?

In terms of clubs that I know there's no difference in U21 or U20 as there's always issues due to the overlap into senior adult teams.

Is there any counties that actually run an U20/U21 club league as any I know only really run this agegroup off as a knockout championship either at the start of the year or the end of the year?
In Ulster counties the proposals are to have u13,u15,u17 and u20 league and championships and I can't see the postives hence this post - also we are getting a lack of clarity about what is complusory and what is optional - just the message its happening anyway so we may as well do it... >:(

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Can anyone tell me how an u20 grade with an u17 will help clubs?

At county level it suits but an u20 team will surely be a problem for Reserve and Senior teams. Players who have made the senior team may not want to play u20. If playing u20 and senior is there not a burn out issue?

Love to see a document showing the benefits of the changes for clubs - anyone have one?

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Antrim / Re: Antrim Football Thread
« on: January 26, 2018, 10:46:48 PM »
McVeigh off the panel or just injured?

1 Chris Kerr
2 Peter Healy
3 Patrick Gallagher
4 Niall Delargy
5 Kevin O Boyle (Capt)
6 Mark Sweeney
7 James Laverty
8 Sean Burke
9 Niall McKeever
10 Stephen Beatty
11 Conor Murray
12 Paddy Mc Bride
13 Mathew Fitzpatrick
14 Colum Duffin
15 Ryan Murray
16 Andrew Hasson
17 Pat Brannigan
18 Paddy Mc Aleer
19 Connell Lemon
20 Ruairi Mc Cann
21 Ricky Johnston
22 Michael McCarry
23 Odhran Eastwood
24 C J Mc Gourty
25 Kristan Healy

for those who haven't saw it.
happy days football is back ! Sick of premier league lack of manliness

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Antrim / Re: Antrim Football Thread
« on: January 19, 2018, 07:15:58 PM »
anyone in the know have any idea when fixtures will be out for 2018?
Championship draws this Monday so maybe after that

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Antrim / Re: Antrim Football Thread
« on: January 17, 2018, 04:08:55 PM »
dont know all the details but yeah, all ages staying till next year afaik

2nd hand info so stand to be corrected.
Still can't see any county u17 football mgr or trials?

Give them a bell, and if you have your foundation course they'd be more than happy I'd say to let you take the team.
I'd say you are right! Poor organisation all the same when we need to be better prepared than most to compete

Look its the same with clubs, trying to get someone to commit to taking teams is difficult. Ive already been asked to help out at the club, as i'm asked most years, the same people always do, the county teams is harder again, lot of committment, i certainly seen that with the minor hurling team last year, they were on the go all the time and with a big selection of mentors helping out..

Not too many people will put their hands up to take teams, but are pretty good at giving off about it, not saying you are Belfast GAA man, from my limited experience its harder than you think with even less reward for the effort you put in, and I'm noit talking about money
I've been taking kids teams for years and will be this year - Minor really is a hard job as their interest starts to go elsewhere - no easy answers but you are right about needing 3 or 4 people taking a team to do it right and to make it enjoyable

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Antrim / Re: Antrim Football Thread
« on: January 17, 2018, 03:06:50 PM »
dont know all the details but yeah, all ages staying till next year afaik

2nd hand info so stand to be corrected.
Still can't see any county u17 football mgr or trials?

Give them a bell, and if you have your foundation course they'd be more than happy I'd say to let you take the team.
I'd say you are right! Poor organisation all the same when we need to be better prepared than most to compete

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Antrim / Re: Antrim Football Thread
« on: January 17, 2018, 11:26:37 AM »
dont know all the details but yeah, all ages staying till next year afaik

2nd hand info so stand to be corrected.
Still can't see any county u17 football mgr or trials?

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Antrim / Re: Antrim Football Thread
« on: January 14, 2018, 10:03:26 AM »
Have we a minor football manager in place or have i missed the appointment?thanks

Under 19 you mean?
County is u17(Minor) and u20 this year

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Antrim / Re: Antrim Football Thread
« on: January 13, 2018, 06:32:24 PM »
Have we a minor football manager in place or have i missed the appointment?thanks

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Antrim / Re: Antrim Football Thread
« on: January 06, 2018, 02:25:05 PM »
4 pages now because we got bate by Tyrone.

Christ the night.

What will happen if Cavan beat us?  :'(
I think everyone would agree McKenna Cup is a preseason tournament so why don't they seed in such a way that Div 4 teams like Antrim DONT play a Div 1 team like Tyrone? Mismatches are no good for anyone.
Perhaps McKenna Cup A & B tournaments......

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Antrim / Re: Antrim, the way forward
« on: January 01, 2018, 09:03:24 PM »
Change will not suit everyone, this looks like something that is a benefit to the southern members.. a possible meeting with club delegates to see what’s best for Antrim would be the better outcome here
Anyone know when there will be a decision this or when there will be a county u17 manager be in place? surely most teams start training early Jan..............

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Antrim / Re: Antrim Football Thread
« on: December 31, 2017, 11:58:50 AM »
Sarsfield’s and Glenavy situation very strange.
Very hard to have much confidence in CCC when this comes out and the version I saw full of spelling errors.
As a Rasharkin man I’d obviously rather not see this format but I can see the reasons for the 8 team leagues and I know a change worked in our favour 2 seasons ago.
It would have been better to let all clubs know this was in the offing at the the start of 2017 and then top 4 league positions in Division 2 would have been important in the formation of 1B
After the season moneyglass had in division 2 they should be replacing Sarsfield’s in 1B.
Where can you view these proposals? and what's the thinking behind them....
I think the divisions would work well actually, as I say the format needs a bit of tinkering. It opens up availability for the county also, 14 games easier to run off than 18, and with div 3 not overly effected by county players that is the division that can handle the extra games. If they get the grading sorted I think it's a good idea. The leagues gonna start early again this year? Thought it worked well with league being over pre championship.
where can you view these proposals and what is thinking behind them?
Sarsfield’s and Glenavy situation very strange.
Very hard to have much confidence in CCC when this comes out and the version I saw full of spelling errors.
As a Rasharkin man I’d obviously rather not see this format but I can see the reasons for the 8 team leagues and I know a change worked in our favour 2 seasons ago.
It would have been better to let all clubs know this was in the offing at the the start of 2017 and then top 4 league positions in Division 2 would have been important in the formation of 1B
After the season moneyglass had in division 2 they should be replacing Sarsfield’s in 1B.
Where can you view these proposals? and what's the thinking behind them....
I think the divisions would work well actually, as I say the format needs a bit of tinkering. It opens up availability for the county also, 14 games easier to run off than 18, and with div 3 not overly effected by county players that is the division that can handle the extra games. If they get the grading sorted I think it's a good idea. The leagues gonna start early again this year? Thought it worked well with league being over pre championship.

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Antrim / Re: Antrim Football Thread
« on: December 31, 2017, 11:56:22 AM »
Sarsfield’s and Glenavy situation very strange.
Very hard to have much confidence in CCC when this comes out and the version I saw full of spelling errors.
As a Rasharkin man I’d obviously rather not see this format but I can see the reasons for the 8 team leagues and I know a change worked in our favour 2 seasons ago.
It would have been better to let all clubs know this was in the offing at the the start of 2017 and then top 4 league positions in Division 2 would have been important in the formation of 1B
After the season moneyglass had in division 2 they should be replacing Sarsfield’s in 1B.
Where can you view these proposals? and what's the thinking behind them....
I think the divisions would work well actually, as I say the format needs a bit of tinkering. It opens up availability for the county also, 14 games easier to run off than 18, and with div 3 not overly effected by county players that is the division that can handle the extra games. If they get the grading sorted I think it's a good idea. The leagues gonna start early again this year? Thought it worked well with league being over pre championship.

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Antrim / Re: Antrim, the way forward
« on: December 24, 2017, 01:57:40 PM »
Proposal from Croke Park you mean.

This seriously important issue was completely ignored at the County AGM .... yet now we have this proposal .... and AFAICS its based solely on a need to line up with what Croke Park have done. WTF

Does the County have any clue (does any club have any clue) just how many U19 players will be available for the season ahead?
Does the County have any consideration for the possibility that several U19 players will be part of their senior panel?
Does the County understand that introducing an U19 competition will burden many U17 players (studying A levels) as they will be needed to fill out U19 panels?
Does the County give a flying fook other than towing the line with their masters?

What am I missing here? This makes zero sense to me.
there have been several posts since I started this debate and no-one can answer the question about what is mandatory and what the individual counties have discretion over - not a good starting point and I too have concerns that it will be harder to field u19 teams than u18 teams as some leave for university at 18/19 and some will see themselves as seniors and not want to play u19...........

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