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Re: PJ picks his Super 8
« Reply #15 on: April 10, 2018, 05:31:12 PM »
Contenders are all this year's Div 1 teams plus Ros Cavan Cork Armagh Tipp.
No hope for Antrim Derry Louth Westmeath Offaly Laois Wicklow Carlow Wexford London Waterford Limerick Sligo Laythrum. .
One of the remainder with the right draws and home venues and luck might just upset a few apple carts and squeeze in.
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« Reply #16 on: April 10, 2018, 05:40:44 PM »
Super 8 doesn't address the structural problems that are making a hames of football.
Concentration has had a very bad effect on soccer as well. The top teams in England, Spain, Germany and France are far away from the competition in the leagues that are now winding up.
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« Reply #17 on: April 10, 2018, 05:54:29 PM »
And your solution Seafóidín? ?
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Re: PJ picks his Super 8
« Reply #18 on: April 10, 2018, 05:59:02 PM »
Contenders are all this year's Div 1 teams plus Ros Cavan Cork Armagh Tipp.
No hope for Antrim Derry Louth Westmeath Offaly Laois Wicklow Carlow Wexford London Waterford Limerick Sligo Laythrum. .
One of the remainder with the right draws and home venues and luck might just upset a few apple carts and squeeze in.
And yet so many of those counties voted for this nonsense. Self interest put before the greater good.

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« Reply #19 on: April 10, 2018, 06:11:04 PM »
It's not nonsense and no system can, or should, help teams artificially make the later stages of a competition. The super 8's make no difference to Antrim, Offaly, Waterford etc., they won't lose anymore ground to the Dublin's of this world by keeping any other system we've had.

The super 8's isn't the complete solution but it is an improvement on what we have.

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« Reply #20 on: April 10, 2018, 06:26:30 PM »
Due to the lack of consultation, we will be boycotting the Super 8s.
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Re: PJ picks his Super 8
« Reply #21 on: April 10, 2018, 06:30:32 PM »
Good.
Sure ye wouldn't be able to have a home game anyway.
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Re: PJ picks his Super 8
« Reply #22 on: April 10, 2018, 06:34:34 PM »
And your solution Seafóidín? ?
Top of them all would be a new economic system ;)
But pending that :

Funding is secretive and unbalanced.
Counties have to fend for themselves.  This shouldn't be the case going forward.  Meath for example need help.
The qfs favour stronger counties. Is there not a better way to run the championship ?
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Re: PJ picks his Super 8
« Reply #23 on: April 10, 2018, 06:50:05 PM »
Contenders are all this year's Div 1 teams plus Ros Cavan Cork Armagh Tipp.
No hope for Antrim Derry Louth Westmeath Offaly Laois Wicklow Carlow Wexford London Waterford Limerick Sligo Laythrum. .
One of the remainder with the right draws and home venues and luck might just upset a few apple carts and squeeze in.
And yet so many of those counties voted for this nonsense. Self interest put before the greater good.

These congress votes are a joke, tipp manager, football board and players were all against the super 8's and the tipp delegates vote in favour of it, what does that tell you

Most "hurling" counties were against the restructuring of the provincial championships but the likes of Donegal, fermanagh, mayo, Cavan all have an equal vote as the people this really affects.

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Re: PJ picks his Super 8
« Reply #24 on: April 10, 2018, 07:00:20 PM »
After years if arrogantly asserting that everything was wonderful in their Chamoionship the hurley crowd went into a panic when the new football Quarter Finals Series was adopted.
Not enough hurling games the roared.
Then they got more.
Now they want to blame "the likes of" Fermanagh and Donegal.
Sickening hurley arrogance!!!
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« Reply #25 on: April 10, 2018, 07:05:01 PM »
Contenders are all this year's Div 1 teams plus Ros Cavan Cork Armagh Tipp.
No hope for Antrim Derry Louth Westmeath Offaly Laois Wicklow Carlow Wexford London Waterford Limerick Sligo Laythrum. .
One of the remainder with the right draws and home venues and luck might just upset a few apple carts and squeeze in.
And yet so many of those counties voted for this nonsense. Self interest put before the greater good.

Was the county delegates that voted it in and those counties delegates were influenced by HQ with countrywide roadshow to vote it in. A public vote would have been very different.

As I have said before the championship is a cup competition and the story of the underdogs upsetting the odds is that makes any cup competition great, the introduction of a round robin system for the last 8 is now more or less killing off any chance the underdog has of reaching the last 4 now.

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Re: PJ picks his Super 8
« Reply #26 on: April 10, 2018, 07:08:59 PM »
Sure it's only in for three years...
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Re: PJ picks his Super 8
« Reply #27 on: April 10, 2018, 07:10:09 PM »
After years if arrogantly asserting that everything was wonderful in their Chamoionship the hurley crowd went into a panic when the new football Quarter Finals Series was adopted.
Not enough hurling games the roared.
Then they got more.
Now they want to blame "the likes of" Fermanagh and Donegal.
Sickening hurley arrogance!!!

I'm a football person not a "Hurley" person as you state. (well id go to both but its football first). Where were people saying there wasnt enough hurling games? Again though the people this affects are in a situation they didn't want.

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Re: PJ picks his Super 8
« Reply #28 on: April 10, 2018, 07:16:52 PM »
Contenders are all this year's Div 1 teams plus Ros Cavan Cork Armagh Tipp.
No hope for Antrim Derry Louth Westmeath Offaly Laois Wicklow Carlow Wexford London Waterford Limerick Sligo Laythrum. .
One of the remainder with the right draws and home venues and luck might just upset a few apple carts and squeeze in.
And yet so many of those counties voted for this nonsense. Self interest put before the greater good.

Was the county delegates that voted it in and those counties delegates were influenced by HQ with countrywide roadshow to vote it in. A public vote would have been very different.

As I have said before the championship is a cup competition and the story of the underdogs upsetting the odds is that makes any cup competition great, the introduction of a round robin system for the last 8 is now more or less killing off any chance the underdog has of reaching the last 4 now.

Exactly. Look the league is brilliant, easily our best formatted competition. In a perfect world for me a 32 county championship with 8 groups of 4, league divisions decide the seedings in the groups, top two go through, bottom 2 into a secondary competition. Last 16 straight knockout. The more knockout games the better. It won't happen but that's what I'd like.

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Re: PJ picks his Super 8
« Reply #29 on: April 10, 2018, 07:33:23 PM »
Contenders are all this year's Div 1 teams plus Ros Cavan Cork Armagh Tipp.
No hope for Antrim Derry Louth Westmeath Offaly Laois Wicklow Carlow Wexford London Waterford Limerick Sligo Laythrum. .
One of the remainder with the right draws and home venues and luck might just upset a few apple carts and squeeze in.
On oddschecker there are 6 counties whose odds are below 50/1
Armagh are 150/1 which is hardly contender territory
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