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#526
Laois / Re: All-Ireland Football Qualifiers 2016
June 23, 2016, 07:31:21 PM
So the CCCC proposed a rematch.

They could have recommended a fine, a rematch or us being thrown out.

I'm an avid Laois supporter, but given the rules, a rematch is CLEARLY the fair call. Why?

There was 2 points in it. We scored a point WITH THE SUBSTITUTE THAT SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN ON THE FIELD.

Armagh could easily argue that they could have potentially scored a goal without him there.

So, a fine, is too lenient. Throwing us out is too far. A rematch is in the middle and fair, clearly, given the options.

And no I don't agree with how they've treated us in other ways - the Nowlan Park episode & fixing the match for 3.30 last week with the soccer was horrendus.

But a rematch is fair in this situation - it's in the RULES. We weren't leading by 20 - we were leading by 2.

#527
Laois / Re: All-Ireland Football Qualifiers 2016
June 22, 2016, 03:44:46 PM
Right, time for a bit of cop on.

1: Who's fault was it? Laois.

2: The rules state that we could have been fined, replay match, or thrown out. We were 2 points up with 72 mins gone when sub was made. Could plausibly have made a difference. Therefore Rematch seems fair.

3: Let's just get back up and win this one again. We know we can do it. No point moaning and groaning. It was a Laois error and it's a fair outcome.

4: In a way we can see this as a positive as it will give the lads more time to develop our system and another championship match when they are few and far in between for us is welcome in my eyes.

5: Armagh will be up for this but we are the better team and if we've any ambition, we will be up for this and show we're the better team for the 2nd time. No the GAA is not out to get us. It was a Laois error and we've paid for it. What matters is how we react.

#528
Laois / Re: All-Ireland Football Qualifiers 2016
June 21, 2016, 12:41:46 PM
To be honest I'll believe it when I hear it. I would be VERY surprised if Armagh turned down the opportunity to replay Laois. Maybe I'm being pessimistic but that doesn't sound right to me.

If it is, serious fair play to Armagh but as I say we'll have to wait for the official word.
#529
Laois / Re: All-Ireland Football Qualifiers 2016
June 21, 2016, 11:37:54 AM
Quote from: Don Draper on June 21, 2016, 10:47:14 AM
Quote from: Tony on June 21, 2016, 10:31:38 AM
There should be a rule that trumps all other rules in the book, and that's called "THE COMMON SENSE RULE".
I'm sorry, but that makes no sense whatsoever, would void all other rules and cause chaos.


If Laois broke the rules, they deserve their punishment.
What I meant, ed, was that the rules should be followed, up until the interpretation is unclear or rule ambiguous,  in which case, common sense rule is king.
#530
Laois / Re: All-Ireland Football Qualifiers 2016
June 21, 2016, 11:35:41 AM
I wouldn't listen to jack Nolans sources to be fair. His sources also told him that we were going to announce a top class background team at the start of the year.
#531
Laois / Re: All-Ireland Football Qualifiers 2016
June 21, 2016, 10:31:38 AM
There should be a rule that trumps all other rules in the book, and that's called "THE COMMON SENSE RULE".

Unfortunately the GAA rarely use the common sense rule, but we clearly won the game, fair and square and there was zero malice in the substitution. It was an oversight and these things do happen.

Likely we will be forced to replay, but like high fielder says, hopefully Armagh will forfeit.

I certainly would forefit if I knew the game was won fair and square. The GAA may not have common sense, but I hope Armagh cancel that out with their decency and integrity.
#532
Laois / Re: All-Ireland Football Qualifiers 2016
June 21, 2016, 09:32:57 AM
You'd rather we be thrown out Scfc? Great attitude there.

No news about weather we're replaying or not.

This team has made a lot of progress since cunningham came in. I for one definitely want to see the rest of the year to see how we do. We could potentially get to 1/4final.

Any laois supporter who doesn't want to see that, after we legitimately beat armagh. . Not sure why you even bother. These lads have worked hard for months. If it's a replay, so be it. Ideally it's a fine. Or best case scenario, the fourth official is at fault and he gets to stand in the bold corner for a few minutes.
#533
Laois / Re: All-Ireland Football Qualifiers 2016
June 20, 2016, 07:21:56 PM
Couldn't have put it better myself Helix.
#534
Laois / Re: All-Ireland Football Qualifiers 2016
June 19, 2016, 11:15:06 AM
To be fair, EOC and EC leaving the panel was not that bad, relative to what it could have been. We were always going to lose a couple of players. Arguably, having K Lillis back from injury with Conway has strengthened the panel vs before EOC and EC left. Evan has great potential and hopefully he'll have great years ahead in a Laois jersey. Our back line seems strengthened in terms of tactics, dicipline and fitness. OK our shooting was very poor but on our day we have a dangerous forward line. Our keeper is in the top 8 surely in the country. Mark Timmons has been very solid as usual at FB this year. Almost every county in the country would be delighted to have Brody, Timmons, Merideth, Attride, Quigley, Meaney, O Loughlin, Begley, Kingston. These are top players, and, with a good setup, there's no reason why they can't do well in the qualifiers. The championship layout is not ideal but there's a lot to be said for gaining momentum in the qualifiers, especially after losing to the all-ireland champions in a credible display.  I just hope the new set up with Cunningham has enough time to properly bloom. Cunningham has made a MASSIVE difference since coming in and that was clear to see last night. We won a tactical ugly dogfight against a tactical heavyweight in McGeeney. There's a lot to be said for winning ugly and we did that last night due to Cunningham, no question. Armagh would have scored 16+ if we had our League-style "15v15" tactics. Cunningham is doing top work & that's clear to anyone that's clued in to see.
#535
Laois / Re: All-Ireland Football Qualifiers 2016
June 18, 2016, 06:07:54 PM
An ugly win but a win nonetheless - definitely a dog-fight as expected. Great to win those games - really shows we're up for it.

We've made a tangible difference to our attitude / setup since Cunningham has come in. Even Brendan Quigley mentioned it at the end - he's probably running the show more than anyone and that's a good thing in my mind.

To come close to anyone in division 1 or most of division 2, we'll have to seriously improve our conversion rates however our defensive setup has made a MASSIVE improvement since the League.

With a bit of momentum - we could see a few more rounds but really does depend on opposition. It'd be great to get momentum with Cunningham around now to work on the lads, it looks more promising.

We still have a lot of improving to do but we can take a lot of positives from the game with JOL still to come back and good competition for places with Conway and Lillis doing well today after being out for so long.

Great goal by Merideth and I for one am delighted to see the win after the disappointment of the Ireland match. Laois wins in the championship are rare enough so let's enjoy this one and build and focus on the next one.

#536
Laois / Re: All-Ireland Football Qualifiers 2016
June 17, 2016, 06:45:45 PM
The lads will have to be very up for this and ready for the pace of it from the 1st minute - we saw what happened against Dublin. KM will have his lads firing - it will be a total embarrassment of a season to KM if he loses, especially with all the latest rubbish in the media with Joe Brolly. We have to want it more than Armagh - this will be a dog-fight.
#537
Laois / Re: All-Ireland Football Qualifiers 2016
June 17, 2016, 11:53:11 AM
Same - very odd to see Conway and Lillis starting after being out for so long. Doesn't make sense if you think about it, especially in Conway's case.
#538
Laois / Re: Club transfers
June 12, 2016, 07:42:43 PM
Wow, bit techy there today Bueller. Taking things a bit seriously for an anonymous forum about a game it seems  ;D. Did you have your daily toilet today? You sound a bit blocked up.
#539
Laois / Re: Club transfers
June 12, 2016, 06:07:34 PM
Why wouldn't he go back to Mountmellick if he's transferring back to Laois though? Makes no sense to me. Did he fall out with the club or something.
#540
Laois / Re: Club transfers
June 12, 2016, 03:30:08 PM
Have I not been listening to you Bueller?

Well.....actually....no - I've no idea who you are or what you've been saying to be honest.  ;D

I was approached by a big club to play ball with them when I was younger. Thing is, I had a choice and my parents have a choice. Portlaoise can ask but they're not forcing anyone to play with them in fairness.