Money, Dublin and the GAA

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priceyreilly

Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on February 20, 2019, 05:21:34 PM
Quote from: priceyreilly on February 20, 2019, 04:47:40 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on February 20, 2019, 04:43:45 PM
Money works if you have a plan behind it. Thats what others are lacking. Are we supposed to apologise for being organised? You have poibtedly failed to prove thete is a bias, yes Dublin has strategic importance because of our population and being the capital, but if you think just cutting another struggling power a large cheque will fix them you are deluded.

And he repeats, happy to ringfence what money the Dubs generate for use in Dublin only. Ditto your county.

Of course there was a plan! This was an investment from the GAA and they wanted a return. Why do you think you've played so many games in Croke Park? Bertie got you the money, how more biased can you get. The success of Dublin has been put ahead of looking after the health of our games in all other counties. We are seeing the effect of it now and we will continue to see it.

Again, which is it? The Dublin cash cow or 31 counties funding us? Pick a line and stick with it please, you are all over the place.

Who exactly has put Dublins success ahead of the rest?

It's both. It's pretty simple to understand. The GAA invested in Dublin using all of our money, they wanted a return on that investment.

The GAA.

priceyreilly

Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on February 20, 2019, 05:27:02 PM
We are literally not denying this investment spend created these players. Every Dub has said it, but you are raning and wont listen.

The disagreement is whether Dublin drawing down funds available to every county is 'doping' or just Diblin getting its act together.

Think about what you are saying. You object to 'top class coaching'. Should we stop, get mediocre coaches involved?

Actually, that's exactly what is being denied! Did you read the post I was responding to?

Dublin has received many multiples of what every other county received. This is not getting your act together. It's other counties paying people to get your act together for you.

No, I object to a whole host of paid coaches and an elite system being funded by all of us while every other county has to operate without this system and with a tiny percentage of the funding allocated to Dublin. 

Baile Brigín 2

Quote from: priceyreilly on February 20, 2019, 05:31:40 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on February 20, 2019, 05:21:34 PM
Quote from: priceyreilly on February 20, 2019, 04:47:40 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on February 20, 2019, 04:43:45 PM
Money works if you have a plan behind it. Thats what others are lacking. Are we supposed to apologise for being organised? You have poibtedly failed to prove thete is a bias, yes Dublin has strategic importance because of our population and being the capital, but if you think just cutting another struggling power a large cheque will fix them you are deluded.

And he repeats, happy to ringfence what money the Dubs generate for use in Dublin only. Ditto your county.

Of course there was a plan! This was an investment from the GAA and they wanted a return. Why do you think you've played so many games in Croke Park? Bertie got you the money, how more biased can you get. The success of Dublin has been put ahead of looking after the health of our games in all other counties. We are seeing the effect of it now and we will continue to see it.

Again, which is it? The Dublin cash cow or 31 counties funding us? Pick a line and stick with it please, you are all over the place.

Who exactly has put Dublins success ahead of the rest?

It's both. It's pretty simple to understand. The GAA invested in Dublin using all of our money, they wanted a return on that investment.

The GAA.
No they didn't. Funding into Dublin is a fraction of what the Dubs raise. If you refuse to grasp this...

Baile Brigín 2

Quote from: priceyreilly on February 20, 2019, 05:35:59 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on February 20, 2019, 05:27:02 PM
We are literally not denying this investment spend created these players. Every Dub has said it, but you are raning and wont listen.

The disagreement is whether Dublin drawing down funds available to every county is 'doping' or just Diblin getting its act together.

Think about what you are saying. You object to 'top class coaching'. Should we stop, get mediocre coaches involved?

Actually, that's exactly what is being denied! Did you read the post I was responding to?

Dublin has received many multiples of what every other county received. This is not getting your act together. It's other counties paying people to get your act together for you.

No, I object to a whole host of paid coaches and an elite system being funded by all of us while every other county has to operate without this system and with a tiny percentage of the funding allocated to Dublin.

Dublin has many multiples of the population and playing numbers...

You do not operate outside this system

This is special needs stuff

priceyreilly

Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on February 20, 2019, 05:39:49 PM
Quote from: priceyreilly on February 20, 2019, 05:31:40 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on February 20, 2019, 05:21:34 PM
Quote from: priceyreilly on February 20, 2019, 04:47:40 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on February 20, 2019, 04:43:45 PM
Money works if you have a plan behind it. Thats what others are lacking. Are we supposed to apologise for being organised? You have poibtedly failed to prove thete is a bias, yes Dublin has strategic importance because of our population and being the capital, but if you think just cutting another struggling power a large cheque will fix them you are deluded.

And he repeats, happy to ringfence what money the Dubs generate for use in Dublin only. Ditto your county.

Of course there was a plan! This was an investment from the GAA and they wanted a return. Why do you think you've played so many games in Croke Park? Bertie got you the money, how more biased can you get. The success of Dublin has been put ahead of looking after the health of our games in all other counties. We are seeing the effect of it now and we will continue to see it.

Again, which is it? The Dublin cash cow or 31 counties funding us? Pick a line and stick with it please, you are all over the place.

Who exactly has put Dublins success ahead of the rest?

It's both. It's pretty simple to understand. The GAA invested in Dublin using all of our money, they wanted a return on that investment.

The GAA.
No they didn't. Funding into Dublin is a fraction of what the Dubs raise. If you refuse to grasp this...

What are you on about? Do you know about the Irish sports council funding? Do you know about how much Dublin have received since 2005? 

priceyreilly

#1580
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on February 20, 2019, 05:41:05 PM
Quote from: priceyreilly on February 20, 2019, 05:35:59 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on February 20, 2019, 05:27:02 PM
We are literally not denying this investment spend created these players. Every Dub has said it, but you are raning and wont listen.

The disagreement is whether Dublin drawing down funds available to every county is 'doping' or just Diblin getting its act together.

Think about what you are saying. You object to 'top class coaching'. Should we stop, get mediocre coaches involved?

Actually, that's exactly what is being denied! Did you read the post I was responding to?

Dublin has received many multiples of what every other county received. This is not getting your act together. It's other counties paying people to get your act together for you.

No, I object to a whole host of paid coaches and an elite system being funded by all of us while every other county has to operate without this system and with a tiny percentage of the funding allocated to Dublin.

Dublin has many multiples of the population and playing numbers...

You do not operate outside this system

This is special needs stuff

;D Look up the population of Antrim and Cork. Now look up how much more Dublin get compared to them. It really is special needs stuff!

Everyone else does operate outside the system built for Dublin. You have no clue what you're talking about.

Baile Brigín 2

Quote from: priceyreilly on February 20, 2019, 05:49:45 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on February 20, 2019, 05:39:49 PM
Quote from: priceyreilly on February 20, 2019, 05:31:40 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on February 20, 2019, 05:21:34 PM
Quote from: priceyreilly on February 20, 2019, 04:47:40 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on February 20, 2019, 04:43:45 PM
Money works if you have a plan behind it. Thats what others are lacking. Are we supposed to apologise for being organised? You have poibtedly failed to prove thete is a bias, yes Dublin has strategic importance because of our population and being the capital, but if you think just cutting another struggling power a large cheque will fix them you are deluded.

And he repeats, happy to ringfence what money the Dubs generate for use in Dublin only. Ditto your county.

Of course there was a plan! This was an investment from the GAA and they wanted a return. Why do you think you've played so many games in Croke Park? Bertie got you the money, how more biased can you get. The success of Dublin has been put ahead of looking after the health of our games in all other counties. We are seeing the effect of it now and we will continue to see it.

Again, which is it? The Dublin cash cow or 31 counties funding us? Pick a line and stick with it please, you are all over the place.

Who exactly has put Dublins success ahead of the rest?

It's both. It's pretty simple to understand. The GAA invested in Dublin using all of our money, they wanted a return on that investment.

The GAA.
No they didn't. Funding into Dublin is a fraction of what the Dubs raise. If you refuse to grasp this...

What are you on about? Do you know about the Irish sports council funding? Do you know about how much Dublin have received since 2005?

Sigh. You need to justify your 'doping' allegations. Are these funds exclusive to Dublin?

Baile Brigín 2

Quote from: priceyreilly on February 20, 2019, 05:52:45 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on February 20, 2019, 05:41:05 PM
Quote from: priceyreilly on February 20, 2019, 05:35:59 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on February 20, 2019, 05:27:02 PM
We are literally not denying this investment spend created these players. Every Dub has said it, but you are raning and wont listen.

The disagreement is whether Dublin drawing down funds available to every county is 'doping' or just Diblin getting its act together.

Think about what you are saying. You object to 'top class coaching'. Should we stop, get mediocre coaches involved?

Actually, that's exactly what is being denied! Did you read the post I was responding to?

Dublin has received many multiples of what every other county received. This is not getting your act together. It's other counties paying people to get your act together for you.

No, I object to a whole host of paid coaches and an elite system being funded by all of us while every other county has to operate without this system and with a tiny percentage of the funding allocated to Dublin.

Dublin has many multiples of the population and playing numbers...

You do not operate outside this system

This is special needs stuff

;D Look up the population of Antrim and Cork. Now look up how much more Dublin get compared to them. It really is special needs stuff!

Everyone else does operate outside the system built for Dublin. You have no clue what you're talking about.

You couldnt have picked two worse examples of shambolic counties if you tried.

If you object to the money Dublin get, I await with baited breath how you react to up to half the GAA annual turnover going into the Frankdome.

The defence rests.

priceyreilly

#1583
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on February 20, 2019, 06:08:26 PM
Sigh. You need to justify your 'doping' allegations. Are these funds exclusive to Dublin?

The one million a year sports council grant? The multi million euros bonanza given to Dublin? You don't even know the basics!!

priceyreilly

Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on February 20, 2019, 06:10:25 PM
You couldnt have picked two worse examples of shambolic counties if you tried.

If you object to the money Dublin get, I await with baited breath how you react to up to half the GAA annual turnover going into the Frankdome.

The defence rests.

;D I chose those 2 because of their population. It busted your claim that "Dublin has many multiples of the population and playing numbers..."

And then some deflection. The weakest defence in history.  :P

dublin7

Pricey you should just stop. You whinge about Dublin and their successes but as everyone points out you haven't put forward any plan for how you would spend the money. That's like punishing New Zealand for being consistently brilliant a rugby. Your fantasy world approach seems to be give everyone loads of money and dont give dublin anymore without any oversight or plan in place as how it should be invested. That doesn't have a history of working well in Ireland.

You've probably been too busy stalking the Dublin football team training in DCU so far this year to notice, but the on going fiasco in this country in relation to building the children's hospital is what happens when you just throw money at something without a clear plan and leadership.

Baile Brigín 2

Quote from: priceyreilly on February 20, 2019, 06:21:12 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on February 20, 2019, 06:10:25 PM
You couldnt have picked two worse examples of shambolic counties if you tried.

If you object to the money Dublin get, I await with baited breath how you react to up to half the GAA annual turnover going into the Frankdome.

The defence rests.

;D I chose those 2 because of their population. It busted your claim that "Dublin has many multiples of the population and playing numbers..."

And then some deflection. The weakest defence in history.  :P
You chose those counties. Both have presided over omnishambles recently, and you think they should get more money to fix them being shyte?

Will you gerrup the yard

Baile Brigín 2

Quote from: priceyreilly on February 20, 2019, 06:18:21 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on February 20, 2019, 06:08:26 PM
Sigh. You need to justify your 'doping' allegations. Are these funds exclusive to Dublin?

The one million a year sports council grant? The multi million euros bonanza given to Dublin? You don't even know the basics!!

Again, what counties were denied 80c per head by the sports council?

priceyreilly

Quote from: dublin7 on February 20, 2019, 06:31:51 PM
Pricey you should just stop. You whinge about Dublin and their successes but as everyone points out you haven't put forward any plan for how you would spend the money. That's like punishing New Zealand for being consistently brilliant a rugby. Your fantasy world approach seems to be give everyone loads of money and dont give dublin anymore without any oversight or plan in place as how it should be invested. That doesn't have a history of working well in Ireland.

You've probably been too busy stalking the Dublin football team training in DCU so far this year to notice, but the on going fiasco in this country in relation to building the children's hospital is what happens when you just throw money at something without a clear plan and leadership.

;D The Dubs are just pathetic, a never ending stream of deflection! But since you brought it up, I will give you a brief outline of the plan.

Firstly, the monster must be slain. Dublin gets split into the 4 counties, Fingal, Dublin city, South Dublin, Dun Laoighaire/Rathdown.

Similar to what Dublin got, every county gets a strategic development officer and various other officers answering to them.

A development plan is drawn up for each county. What problems each county face, how to deal with them, how to promote the game, how to increase playing numbers, how to increase competitivity in both codes and so on.

All counties will be given appropriate funding to implement the plans drawn up.

The development officers will have targets to reach and progress will be monitored.

That's just a brief outline. It would ensure all counties compete on an equal footing. It would be fair and equatable.

priceyreilly

Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on February 20, 2019, 06:42:56 PM
Quote from: priceyreilly on February 20, 2019, 06:21:12 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on February 20, 2019, 06:10:25 PM
You couldnt have picked two worse examples of shambolic counties if you tried.

If you object to the money Dublin get, I await with baited breath how you react to up to half the GAA annual turnover going into the Frankdome.

The defence rests.

;D I chose those 2 because of their population. It busted your claim that "Dublin has many multiples of the population and playing numbers..."

And then some deflection. The weakest defence in history.  :P
You chose those counties. Both have presided over omnishambles recently, and you think they should get more money to fix them being shyte?

Will you gerrup the yard

What're their populations compared with Dublin? How much less have they received is games development funding compared with Dublin?