Poppy Watch

Started by Orior, November 04, 2010, 12:36:05 PM

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Itchy

Quote from: Boycey on November 05, 2018, 10:01:45 AM
Quote from: Taylor on November 05, 2018, 08:50:48 AM
So Matic doesnt wear a poppy and it gets little air time.
Wonder is it anything to do with McClean being a Catholic from the Bogside that he gets so much abuse?

Matic not wearing it has had plenty of coverage..

Note even close in comparison to McClean.

Insane Bolt


Boycey

Quote from: Itchy on November 05, 2018, 10:03:43 AM
Quote from: Boycey on November 05, 2018, 10:01:45 AM
Quote from: Taylor on November 05, 2018, 08:50:48 AM
So Matic doesnt wear a poppy and it gets little air time.
Wonder is it anything to do with McClean being a Catholic from the Bogside that he gets so much abuse?

Matic not wearing it has had plenty of coverage..

Note even close in comparison to McClean.

In what way?

snoopdog

Quote from: Double D on November 04, 2018, 09:39:24 PM
Quote from: snoopdog on November 04, 2018, 09:23:24 PM
Quote from: Ambrose on November 04, 2018, 08:56:42 PM
McClean will end up at Celtic, hopefully the Poppy won't be an issue for him there.
Do Celtic not wear the poppy on their shirt?

Short answer is no. Definitely didn't against Hearts yesterday
Im sure ive seen celtic wear the poopy on the jersey before. Maybe James would be better to say nothing. He made his point. Dont wear it and say nothing.

trailer

One interesting observation. Was at Sprucefiled yesterday (for those unfamiliar think of middle class church going protestants holding pen) anyways when you watch TV you'd think everyone was wearing a poppy. I'd say yesterday 1 in every 50 people was wearing one.

themac_23

Quote from: snoopdog on November 05, 2018, 10:19:29 AM
Quote from: Double D on November 04, 2018, 09:39:24 PM
Quote from: snoopdog on November 04, 2018, 09:23:24 PM
Quote from: Ambrose on November 04, 2018, 08:56:42 PM
McClean will end up at Celtic, hopefully the Poppy won't be an issue for him there.
Do Celtic not wear the poppy on their shirt?

Short answer is no. Definitely didn't against Hearts yesterday
Im sure ive seen celtic wear the poopy on the jersey before. Maybe James would be better to say nothing. He made his point. Dont wear it and say nothing.

We did one year, i remember it, it was possibly the same year as the GB 'no bloodstained poppy on our hoops' display, the backlash was pretty fierce, we no longer put a poppy on but any player who wishes to wear one is free to. It is also noted that Celtic donate more to the poppy appeal in Scotland than any of the other clubs

general_lee

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 05, 2018, 09:25:15 AM
Quote from: general_lee on November 05, 2018, 09:21:12 AM
A couple of observations. Was out socialising in Belfast's cathedral quarter over the weekend. A lot of punters out wearing their poppies. A lot of them completely inebriated. Some women seem to treat them as fashion accessories. As do some men. I don't see the need to wear a poppy when you're out getting blocked, maybe someone could explain that one to me.. anyhoo, supposedly James McClean is being disrespectful by not wearing one, but the people I saw at the weekend are ten times worse.

So you can't go out in town have a drink, and wear a poppy? Oh I love reading this thread every year! The effort you've made to be annoyed at poppy wearers is at expert level
I'm not annoyed. People can wear what they want and it makes no odds to me. I just think it gets worn for the completely wrong reasons, to the extent that I have barely any respect for anyone that wears one nowadays. It's a symbol of british nationalism that I think has made a worrying rise in recent years. I know you plied your trade in h&w once upon a time but not everyone is as subservient as you in your outlook when it comes to things like this.

passedit

Quote from: trailer on November 05, 2018, 10:33:55 AM
One interesting observation. Was at Sprucefiled yesterday (for those unfamiliar think of middle class church going protestants holding pen) anyways when you watch TV you'd think everyone was wearing a poppy. I'd say yesterday 1 in every 50 people was wearing one.

I was out and about around London at the back end of last week and must have passed thosands of people on foot. At most I saw ten Poppies. The fact that wearing them on tv and playing sport is virtually compulsory skews peoples perceptions.
Don't Panic

Milltown Row2

Quote from: general_lee on November 05, 2018, 11:47:14 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 05, 2018, 09:25:15 AM
Quote from: general_lee on November 05, 2018, 09:21:12 AM
A couple of observations. Was out socialising in Belfast's cathedral quarter over the weekend. A lot of punters out wearing their poppies. A lot of them completely inebriated. Some women seem to treat them as fashion accessories. As do some men. I don't see the need to wear a poppy when you're out getting blocked, maybe someone could explain that one to me.. anyhoo, supposedly James McClean is being disrespectful by not wearing one, but the people I saw at the weekend are ten times worse.

So you can't go out in town have a drink, and wear a poppy? Oh I love reading this thread every year! The effort you've made to be annoyed at poppy wearers is at expert level
I'm not annoyed. People can wear what they want and it makes no odds to me. I just think it gets worn for the completely wrong reasons, to the extent that I have barely any respect for anyone that wears one nowadays. It's a symbol of british nationalism that I think has made a worrying rise in recent years. I know you plied your trade in h&w once upon a time but not everyone is as subservient tolerant as you in your outlook when it comes to things like this.

Fixed that for you
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

Baile Brigín 2

Quote from: hardstation on November 04, 2018, 05:13:02 PM
Firstly, if the club back those thugs over him it sends out a terrible message. Abuse our players if you wish. Secondly, he already gets a torrid time. That's what he's standing up against. I can't see him caring one bit about being sent to the reserves over this. You are totally over-hyping it.
Cough cough

magpie seanie

Surely the terminology alleged to have been used by the "supporters" is in fact a criminal offence? Isn't that what should be the focus here?

michaelg

Quote from: haranguerer on November 05, 2018, 09:09:32 AM
Quote from: michaelg on November 05, 2018, 07:16:23 AM
Quote from: Double D on November 04, 2018, 10:07:40 PM
Quote from: lurganblue on November 04, 2018, 10:01:54 PM
Quote from: Double D on November 04, 2018, 09:01:30 PM
You would expect a lot more Irish footballers to object to wearing a poppy on the same basis as McClean. Also saw Nemanja Matic wasn't wearing one on Saturday i think but very little being made of that?

Finally another player has an issue with it. Interested to see how this one plays out

Been very quiet this though hasn't it. Which is strange

Perhaps if McClean didn't release an annual statement to court publicity, then the outcry may not be as loud.

Absolutely ludicrous. You can't have posted that in seriousness?
Everyone is now fully aware of his position.  Why not just discuss the situation privately with his current employer and get on with the business of playing football.

Insane Bolt

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/46095169

Abuse is ok as long as it's directed at Fenians😡

snoopdog

Prob get shot down for this. But maybe he could wear a black armband for those that died in the 2 wars. Dont think any irishman would have an issue with that. And it a compromise.  Whether they like it or not the poppy is a very devisive symbol. They say its for all servicemen who fought and served but id say 90% of those that do actually wear it,
wear it for the dead of those 2 wars.
Alternativly mcclean should just get on with it make no statement and ignore the reactions from these people.

Insane Bolt

Quote from: snoopdog on November 05, 2018, 08:10:42 PM
Prob get shot down for this. But maybe he could wear a black armband for those that died in the 2 wars. Dont think any irishman would have an issue with that. And it a compromise.  Whether they like it or not the poppy is a very devisive symbol. They say its for all servicemen who fought and served but id say 90% of those that do actually wear it,
wear it for the dead of those 2 wars.
Alternativly mcclean should just get on with it make no statement and ignore the reactions from these people.

The alternative is that those who wish to wear one do so......and not abuse anyone who doesn't....for whatever reason. Imagine getting abused at your place of work for years....would you put up with it?