The Many Faces of US Politics...

[seafoid]

What do you think, lads? Was Samantha Bee on to something when she "joked" that Trump can't actually read and showed all sorts of clips of him refusing to read legal documents during depositions?

I bet he has dementia
https://www.theatlantic.com/amp/article/548759/

[Syferus]

Most of ye dog-piling seem to have conveniently ignored Oraisteach's more nuanced reading of the author's motives. He's a known fabricator and embellisher - even for Trump the sheer amount of incredulous stuff is hard to take at face value.

Seafoid is particularly and regularly guilty of only producing articles that implicitly support his pre-existing viewpoint - ultimately that approach is exactly the same as the worst of Trump's supporters.

[J70]

Yet neither the White House nor Bannon have yet cast doubt on the statements attributed to Bannon.

While the White House lawyers even sent Bannon, not Wolff, a cease and desist letter.

Some of it may turn out to be bullshit or exaggerated, of course, but it's funny to watch such odious and destructive figures turn their fire on each other.

Of course, meanwhile today, the appalling policies continue, with all coastal waters going to be opened up to drilling and Sessions going after marijuana states (so much for small government and states rights).

[seafoid]

Most of ye dog-piling seem to have conveniently ignored Oraisteach's more nuanced reading of the author's motives. He's a known fabricator and embellisher - even for Trump the sheer amount of incredulous stuff is hard to take at face value.

Seafoid is particularly and regularly guilty of only producing articles that implicitly support his pre-existing viewpoint - ultimately that approach is exactly the same as the worst of Trump's supporters.

Trump is a piss take. Eveni if this book was a fraud it would change nothing 

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/aug/19/trump-infrastructure-charlottesville-neo-nazis-comments

National Economic Council director Gary Cohn and transportation secretary Elaine Chao stood impotent, the horror slowly dawning as Donald Trump sabotaged an event that was supposed to be all about rebuilding America.



Trump touts dream infrastructure plan – with really long charts

The official transcript of last Tuesday's presentation in the gilded lobby of Trump Tower in New York is still entitled"Remarks by President Trump on Infrastructure".But history will remember it rather differently: as the day Trump took on reporters in a verbal brawl, drew a moral equivalence between white supremacists and anti-Nazis and shredded his own pretensions to being a serious politician.

"If he'd just kept his mouth shut, which he couldn't do," mused Rich Galen, former press secretary to ex-vice-president Dan Quayle. "Maybe that becomes the metaphor for any legislative agenda: nothing comes before Trump and airing a grievance."

[Main Street]

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Seafoid is particularly and regularly guilty of only producing articles that implicitly support his pre-existing viewpoint - ultimately that approach is exactly the same as the worst of Trump's supporters.

Yes indeed, just how disingenuous Seafold is to provide ("particularly and regularly") links  to articles that support his opinion, rather than links to articles that oppose his opinion. He's dangerous.

[Eamonnca1]

I believe it's a variation on the old "go off and do some research" defence, the lazy debater's ploy where your opponent asks you to support his argument to save him the bother of doing his own work.

[Syferus]

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Seafoid is particularly and regularly guilty of only producing articles that implicitly support his pre-existing viewpoint - ultimately that approach is exactly the same as the worst of Trump's supporters.

Yes indeed, just how disingenuous Seafold is to provide ("particularly and regularly") links  to articles that support his opinion, rather than links to articles that oppose his opinion. He's dangerous.

..he links exclusively to leftist publications, unless the intent is to criticise. Some more suspect (the literally anti-capitalism newsletter from a few weeks ago) and some more respectable like the Guardian or the Atlantic. All sources were not created equally, and if people in this thread and the Palestinian one broadened their definition of an acceptable source they would befar better off in the long run.

[Therealdonald]

Ok all you GOP sympathisers. First paycheck is out today... what difference did it make to your pay?

[imtommygunn]

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Seafoid is particularly and regularly guilty of only producing articles that implicitly support his pre-existing viewpoint - ultimately that approach is exactly the same as the worst of Trump's supporters.

Yes indeed, just how disingenuous Seafold is to provide ("particularly and regularly") links  to articles that support his opinion, rather than links to articles that oppose his opinion. He's dangerous.

..he links exclusively to leftist publications, unless the intent is to criticise. Some more suspect (the literally anti-capitalism newsletter from a few weeks ago) and some more respectable like the Guardian or the Atlantic. All sources were not created equally, and if people in this thread and the Palestinian one broadened their definition of an acceptable source they would befar better off in the long run.

If seafoid were a bot it wouldn't be a huge surprise.  No one could read the volume of stuff he produces.

[seafoid]

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Seafoid is particularly and regularly guilty of only producing articles that implicitly support his pre-existing viewpoint - ultimately that approach is exactly the same as the worst of Trump's supporters.

Yes indeed, just how disingenuous Seafold is to provide ("particularly and regularly") links  to articles that support his opinion, rather than links to articles that oppose his opinion. He's dangerous.

..he links exclusively to leftist publications, unless the intent is to criticise. Some more suspect (the literally anti-capitalism newsletter from a few weeks ago) and some more respectable like the Guardian or the Atlantic. All sources were not created equally, and if people in this thread and the Palestinian one broadened their definition of an acceptable source they would befar better off in the long run.

The well known lefty rag the Financial Times. It comes with the farming independent just after the deaths.

https://www.ft.com/content/0a401588-b8d5-11e7-9bfb-4a9c83ffa852#comments

petergeorge42 14 hours ago Trump entities have filed for bankruptcy 6 times. He is on record for filing about 4,000 lawsuits. He may have borrowed enormous amounts in the past, but today no US bank will touch him. 

The neo communist NYT

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/11/30/business/trump-benefit-tax-cuts.html

President Trump likes to argue that the tax-reform legislation hurtling through Congress this week will protect low- and middle-income households, "not the wealthy and well connected." He puts himself forward as Exhibit A.

"This is going to cost me a fortune," he said on Wednesday in Missouri. "This is not good for me."

So surely at least a few of the most egregious loopholes that benefit Mr. Trump and real estate developers like him will be closed.

Not in the slightest.

In fact, the proposals seem almost tailor-made to enrich the president and people like him.

"Commercial real estate came out essentially unscathed," said Douglas Holtz-Eakin, president of the American Action Forum, a conservative advocacy group. Real estate developers "didn't lose anything they care about," and they got even more breaks, like a shorter depreciation schedule in the Senate tax bill, Mr. Holtz-Eakin pointed out.

[Main Street]

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Seafoid is particularly and regularly guilty of only producing articles that implicitly support his pre-existing viewpoint - ultimately that approach is exactly the same as the worst of Trump's supporters.

Yes indeed, just how disingenuous Seafold is to provide ("particularly and regularly") links  to articles that support his opinion, rather than links to articles that oppose his opinion. He's dangerous.

..he links exclusively to leftist publications, unless the intent is to criticise. Some more suspect (the literally anti-capitalism newsletter from a few weeks ago) and some more respectable like the Guardian or the Atlantic. All sources were not created equally, and if people in this thread and the Palestinian one broadened their definition of an acceptable source they would befar better off in the long run.

The well known lefty rag the Financial Times. It comes with the farming independent just after the deaths.

https://www.ft.com/content/0a401588-b8d5-11e7-9bfb-4a9c83ffa852#comments

petergeorge42 14 hours ago Trump entities have filed for bankruptcy 6 times. He is on record for filing about 4,000 lawsuits. He may have borrowed enormous amounts in the past, but today no US bank will touch him.

The neo communist NYT

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/11/30/business/trump-benefit-tax-cuts.html

President Trump likes to argue that the tax-reform legislation hurtling through Congress this week will protect low- and middle-income households, "not the wealthy and well connected." He puts himself forward as Exhibit A.

"This is going to cost me a fortune," he said on Wednesday in Missouri. "This is not good for me."

So surely at least a few of the most egregious loopholes that benefit Mr. Trump and real estate developers like him will be closed.

Not in the slightest.

In fact, the proposals seem almost tailor-made to enrich the president and people like him.

"Commercial real estate came out essentially unscathed," said Douglas Holtz-Eakin, president of the American Action Forum, a conservative advocacy group. Real estate developers "didn't lose anything they care about," and they got even more breaks, like a shorter depreciation schedule in the Senate tax bill, Mr. Holtz-Eakin pointed out.

More commie propaganda (particularly and regularly) from Seafold.

Perhaps Sy could provide a list of acceptable and approved sources to support opinions offered in this thread? Tyrone Tribulations? The Ballymagash Echo?

[heganboy]

Wolff's book is good comedy. However short of evidence he may be. A bit like the X files, I want to believe, but I find that without evidence, it's just a story. One of many, admittedly, but still just a story...

[seafoid]

Wolff's book is good comedy. However short of evidence he may be. A bit like the X files, I want to believe, but I find that without evidence, it's just a story. One of many, admittedly, but still just a story...

We have to wait for Mueller to see who flips.
Trump and Russia is senior hurling . Dumping Comey was the all Ireland fimal.

Bannon is a really interesting figure 
And Trump is straight outta Shakespeare 

[seafoid]

David Frum

@davidfrum

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5h

PR people as yet unborn will tell future clients, "This is about the best publicity you can get, short of a cease and desist order from the president"

 https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/amp/news/michael-wolff-my-insane-year-inside-trumps-white-house-1071504

The West Wing is configured in such a way that the anteroom is quite a thoroughfare — everybody passes by. Assistants — young women in the Trump uniform of short skirts, high boots, long and loose hair

The nature of the comedy, it was soon clear, was that here was a group of ambitious men and women who had reached the pinnacle of power, a high-ranking White House appointment — with the punchline that Donald Trump was president. Their estimable accomplishment of getting to the West Wing risked at any moment becoming farce.

Kellyanne Conway, who would put a finger-gun to her head in private about Trump's public comments, continued to mount an implacable defense on cable television, until she was pulled off the air by others in the White House who, however much the president enjoyed her, found her militancy idiotic. 

Steve Bannon tried to gamely suggest that Trump was mere front man and that he, with plan and purpose and intellect, was, more reasonably, running the show — commanding a whiteboard of policies and initiatives that he claimed to have assembled from Trump's off-the-cuff ramblings and utterances.

Part of that foolishness was his inability to deal with his own family. In a way, this gave him a human dimension. Even Donald Trump couldn't say no to his kids. "It's a littleee, littleee complicated ..." he explained to Priebus about why he needed to give his daughter and son-in-law official jobs. But the effect of their leadership roles was to compound his own boundless inexperience in Washington, creating from the outset frustration and then disbelief and then rage on the part of the professionals in his employ.

To say that no one was in charge, that there were no guiding principles, not even a working org chart, would again be an understatement. "What do these people do?" asked everyone pretty much of everyone else

How to get along with Trump — who veered between a kind of blissed-out pleasure of being in the Oval Office and a deep, childish frustration that he couldn't have what he wanted? Here was a man singularly focused on his own needs for instant gratification, be that a hamburger, a segment on Fox & Friends or an Oval Office photo opp. "I want a win. I want a win. Where's my win?" he would regularly declaim. He was, in words used by almost every member of the senior staff on repeated occasions, "like a child." A chronic naysayer, Trump himself stoked constant discord with his daily after-dinner phone calls to his billionaire friends about the disloyalty and incompetence around him. His billionaire friends then shared this with their billionaire friends, creating the endless leaks which the president so furiously railed against.

There was, after the abrupt Scaramucci meltdown, hardly any effort inside the West Wing to disguise the sense of ludicrousness and anger felt by every member of the senior staff toward Trump's family and Trump himself. 

[Main Street]

Wolff's book is good comedy. However short of evidence he may be. A bit like the X files, I want to believe, but I find that without evidence, it's just a story. One of many, admittedly, but still just a story...

Do you understand the term "evidence"?  Wolff's transcripts of  recorded  interviews are evidence,  using quotes from video and audio recorded interviews from other journalists are evidence. Analysis of evidence from different witnesses  over a period of time and of the timeline of recorded events,  is one method to  determine the quality and consistency of that evidence.

If you have an opinion that the book is a work of fiction then please inform more about this,
as this sentence doesn't quite cut the mustard "However short of evidence he may be."