East wall #Irelandisfull

[tonto1888]

No, he's reiterating what should happen, but when they arrive they should be processed and either sent back if they don't meet the requirements and if they meet refugee status they can stay.

Not difficult for someone like you to understand

So how do you know if they have destroyed their ID and you can't verify their identity?

How do you know if they already have a claim in another country that's been denied?

What about a grifter like this

https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-30906753.html

Irish immigration have access to Eurodac. Take finger prints. Process them. It's that easy

[tonto1888]

https://m.sundayworld.com/crime/courts/fugitive-wanted-in-sweden-for-attacking-cops-during-burning-of-quran-riots-refused-bail/a75515938.html

This guy entered without a passport even though he had an active warrant from Sweeden

Am I a racist for suggesting he should have been denied entry?


Is the judge a racist :

" Ms Justice Melanie Greally said the court was concerned that he appeared to have travelled to Ireland without his passport"

Appeared to have entered without a passport. You don't need a passport to travel between EU countries. If he had Swedish docs, such as an ID card, he could have used that.

[whitey]

https://m.sundayworld.com/crime/courts/fugitive-wanted-in-sweden-for-attacking-cops-during-burning-of-quran-riots-refused-bail/a75515938.html

This guy entered without a passport even though he had an active warrant from Sweeden

Am I a racist for suggesting he should have been denied entry?


Is the judge a racist :

" Ms Justice Melanie Greally said the court was concerned that he appeared to have travelled to Ireland without his passport"

Appeared to have entered without a passport. You don't need a passport to travel between EU countries. If he had Swedish docs, such as an ID card, he could have used that.

Would non EU citizens not need a passport?

I assume the judge knows the law better than me and it caused her concern. Maybe she could explain what was she concerned about

If he did enter on a Swedish ID-someone would have check it upon entry at Dublin airport correct?

Why didn't the outstanding warrant show up when the checked his ID?  Or did they check it at all? Or did he have a fake ID?


(UPDATE)

https://www.thejournal.ie/somali-born-fugitive-fighting-his-extradition-to-sweden-refused-bail-by-high-court-6249737-Dec2023/

" The second issue, she said, which caused the court concern was that Yusuf had travelled to Ireland without his passport. "There is significant doubt as to where that passport is, he claims to have a national identity card from Sweden and claims to have travelled on that but that has not been made available and is not capable of verification at this time"

LOL

nder cross-examination, the detective told Thomas Horan BL, for the respondent, that Yusuf had returned from Sweden to assist his father who was unable to work and was on disability allowance.

FFS

[whitey]

No, he's reiterating what should happen, but when they arrive they should be processed and either sent back if they don't meet the requirements and if they meet refugee status they can stay.

Not difficult for someone like you to understand

So how do you know if they have destroyed their ID and you can't verify their identity?

How do you know if they already have a claim in another country that's been denied?

What about a grifter like this

https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-30906753.html

Irish immigration have access to Eurodac. Take finger prints. Process them. It's that easy

So when they fingerprinted the fella from Sweeden with the outstanding warrants, why didn't he show up?

[burdizzo]

The Fascist catchphrases translated from mid or Eastern European languages...
"Unvetted" (as most Irish people are too). IP applicants are screened.
"Single males of military age". Conspiracy theory that these are all undercover soldiers  One genius in Newbridge says they're all undercover NATO soldiers.
Of course it is and was always easier and safer for young males to move around than for females or older people.

"White genocide" "Plantation" "Invasion"

Plantation is my favourite. Absolute simpletons.

Simpletons are people who describe anything they don't agree with as 'fascist'.

[armaghniac]

So from this, it's that vetting hasn't been done enough on the immigrants is the issue? Not the numbers themselves? Or are we just going down a rabbit hole with the focus on these few immigrants who have broken the law? Just genuinely interested as it's two very different discussions.

There are 7 billion people who might want to come and all of these will not fit on this island, but the open door crowd refuse to countenance a limit of any sort or to that the present arrangements encourage chancers.

[Rossfan]

How many of the 7 billion have applied to come here?

[tonto1888]

No, he's reiterating what should happen, but when they arrive they should be processed and either sent back if they don't meet the requirements and if they meet refugee status they can stay.

Not difficult for someone like you to understand

So how do you know if they have destroyed their ID and you can't verify their identity?

How do you know if they already have a claim in another country that's been denied?

What about a grifter like this

https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-30906753.html

Irish immigration have access to Eurodac. Take finger prints. Process them. It's that easy

So when they fingerprinted the fella from Sweeden with the outstanding warrants, why didn't he show up?

Was he an asylum seeker?

[tonto1888]

So from this, it's that vetting hasn't been done enough on the immigrants is the issue? Not the numbers themselves? Or are we just going down a rabbit hole with the focus on these few immigrants who have broken the law? Just genuinely interested as it's two very different discussions.

There are 7 billion people who might want to come and all of these will not fit on this island, but the open door crowd refuse to countenance a limit of any sort or to that the present arrangements encourage chancers.

Really? 7 billion who might want to come?

[whitey]

No, he's reiterating what should happen, but when they arrive they should be processed and either sent back if they don't meet the requirements and if they meet refugee status they can stay.

Not difficult for someone like you to understand

So how do you know if they have destroyed their ID and you can't verify their identity?

How do you know if they already have a claim in another country that's been denied?

What about a grifter like this

https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-30906753.html

Irish immigration have access to Eurodac. Take finger prints. Process them. It's that easy

So when they fingerprinted the fella from Sweeden with the outstanding warrants, why didn't he show up?

Was he an asylum seeker?

I don't know....the judge is implying that he came in without any ID (or a false ID Which should be even more concerning)

Exactly what checks occurred at Dublin airport that let this guy slip through the cracks?

So as a taxpayer are you happy paying this guys legal fees to fight his extradition to Sweeden?

[tonto1888]

No, he's reiterating what should happen, but when they arrive they should be processed and either sent back if they don't meet the requirements and if they meet refugee status they can stay.

Not difficult for someone like you to understand

So how do you know if they have destroyed their ID and you can't verify their identity?

How do you know if they already have a claim in another country that's been denied?

What about a grifter like this

https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-30906753.html

Irish immigration have access to Eurodac. Take finger prints. Process them. It's that easy

So when they fingerprinted the fella from Sweeden with the outstanding warrants, why didn't he show up?

Was he an asylum seeker?

I don't know....the judge is implying that he came in without any ID (or a false ID Which should be even more concerning)

Exactly what checks occurred at Dublin airport that let this guy slip through the cracks?

So as a taxpayer are you happy paying this guys legal fees to fight his extradition to Sweeden?

He didn't come here and apply for asylum so they couldn't have run his fingerprints through eurodac. You don't know how the asylum system works. That's all you had to say.
Did he come through Dublin airport? Surely immigration there would have ran his ID. Not sure how their system works but I would have thought any convictions would show up.

[armaghniac]

So from this, it's that vetting hasn't been done enough on the immigrants is the issue? Not the numbers themselves? Or are we just going down a rabbit hole with the focus on these few immigrants who have broken the law? Just genuinely interested as it's two very different discussions.

There are 7 billion people who might want to come and all of these will not fit on this island, but the open door crowd refuse to countenance a limit of any sort or to that the present arrangements encourage chancers.

Really? 7 billion who might want to come?

OK, then lets say that only 1% want to come, that's 70 million, so no problem?

[tonto1888]

So from this, it's that vetting hasn't been done enough on the immigrants is the issue? Not the numbers themselves? Or are we just going down a rabbit hole with the focus on these few immigrants who have broken the law? Just genuinely interested as it's two very different discussions.

There are 7 billion people who might want to come and all of these will not fit on this island, but the open door crowd refuse to countenance a limit of any sort or to that the present arrangements encourage chancers.

Really? 7 billion who might want to come?

OK, then lets say that only 1% want to come, that's 70 million, so no problem?

70 million don't want to come here either. You're grand

[armaghniac]

So from this, it's that vetting hasn't been done enough on the immigrants is the issue? Not the numbers themselves? Or are we just going down a rabbit hole with the focus on these few immigrants who have broken the law? Just genuinely interested as it's two very different discussions.

There are 7 billion people who might want to come and all of these will not fit on this island, but the open door crowd refuse to countenance a limit of any sort or to that the present arrangements encourage chancers.

Really? 7 billion who might want to come?

OK, then lets say that only 1% want to come, that's 70 million, so no problem?

70 million don't want to come here either. You're grand

Oh I think 70 million might well want to come here, but we do not allow them, and most do not make up stories to try and come here. Which is not the same thing.

[Rossfan]

Armaghniac used to be a sensible poster.
There are c450,000,000 in the EU and 60,000,000 English/Scots/Welsh who can all come here if they wish.