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General discussion / Re: Messi or Ronaldo - Who's best

« on: November 30, 2021, 11:02:54 AM »

Is this based on last season or the year 2021?

The calendar year. Lewandowski was robbed for 2020 since they cancelled it.

Then it's ridiculous. Messi has been average for the second half of the year. 1 league goal in 16 league games! But he sells shirts so that's the main thing.

Salah deserves better than 7th.

So how is the voting done? Salah is in the 3 if not higher

Journalists vote on it I think. Seems to be a similar scenario for when Giggs won POTY - more recognition of him finally winning a trophy for Argentina as opposed to being the best player in the world in 2021.

I doubt very much if very many people outside of football nerds can definitively state who was the best player over 2021. In any case even if you watched every single match, the opinion is still subjective and depends on how you view football. However plenty seem to want to offer an opinion irrespective of how many games they have actually watched.

If you are basing it purely on goalscoring statistics without viewing the actual matches, then Lewandowski is the clear winner for the last calendar year but then you have to consider a whole range of factors such as his role in the team, level of opposition, contribution to team success, general influence on matches etc. Aesthetically Lewandowski is definitely not the most exciting player since he is simply an out and out finisher whereas Messi is an all round wizard and I imagine that is probably what has been the single biggest factor in him winning the award again together with the weight often placed on international tournaments.     

I would wager that it's the latter of your points which won him the award and the fact that he is Messi and a media darling, not the fact he was the best player in the world the last year. Watched him in the Champions League & the big games in Spain and he was nothing special, admittedly a small sample size! Salah on the other hand has been mesmerizing to watch in nearly every game he has played.

As you point out its all subjective. Maybe the impossibly high standards he has set previous is what most people are judging him against and pre-2008 this season would have been seen as a wonder season. For all that, Nedved winning it over Henry in 2003 was a laugh as was Modric 2018 so best not to take these things too seriously and judge a player on them.

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General discussion / Re: Messi or Ronaldo - Who's best

« on: November 30, 2021, 10:30:38 AM »

Is this based on last season or the year 2021?

The calendar year. Lewandowski was robbed for 2020 since they cancelled it.

Then it's ridiculous. Messi has been average for the second half of the year. 1 league goal in 16 league games! But he sells shirts so that's the main thing.

Salah deserves better than 7th.

So how is the voting done? Salah is in the 3 if not higher

Journalists vote on it I think. Seems to be a similar scenario for when Giggs won POTY - more recognition of him finally winning a trophy for Argentina as opposed to being the best player in the world in 2021.

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General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus

« on: November 25, 2021, 08:59:18 AM »

I thought the "etc." at the end was a giveaway that it was a joke.  Must try harder.

Theres that many crazy takes now its hard to distinguish sarcasm from seriousness! 

Yep, hard to distinguish these days!

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General discussion / Re: China Coronavirus

« on: November 24, 2021, 10:33:35 PM »

"HSE's Paul Reid: "If you take the adult population, only about 7% haven't got two vaccines. That's a
highly disproportionate number of people we have in hospital -
for 7% of the adult population to represent close to 55% of our ICU capacity""

If those figures are true then it tells you that vaccines are working but I think there's a general understanding that top ups and annual vaccines will become a regular occurrence..

LOL so 45% of the people in ICU are vaccinated and you tell us vaccines are working etc.

Theoretical example. Population of 100, ICU capacity of 10.

Using the above figures, 93 people double vaccinated, 7 not.

Even go with a 50/50 split on representation in ICU. ICU contains 5 unvaccinated & 5 vaccinated.

That's 71% (5/7) of the unvaccinated in ICU & 5% (5/93) of vaccinated in ICU.

Vaccines clearly working.

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Down / Re: Down Club Hurling & Football

« on: November 11, 2021, 09:22:34 AM »

Club managers

Kilcoo Moran
Burren McCorry
Clonduff McBride
Mayobridge hearing Bernie Ruane/Mussen have been approached
Ballyholland Lynch?
CPN Mulholland
Loughinisland DJ o toole
Carryduff Paddy O Rourke
Rostrevor Benny Coulter
Castlewellan Mickey McVeigh
Downpatrick Gracey
Bryansford Ambrose R


Glenn Kennedy
Longstone??
Saul Fegan
Liatrom Fitzpatrick
Saval Ronan Sexton
Darragh Cross DJ
Annaclone Seamy Quinn
An Riocht John Clarke

A lot of movement
Bernie and Mussen wil finish out ulster first

Some man for one man.

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General discussion / Re: Premier League 2021-22

« on: October 07, 2021, 10:53:37 PM »

Manchester Citys sugar daddy arrived September 2008,  first Premier league title won under those owners was in 2012. If history repeats itself Newcastles should win the Premier league in 2025.

And Since 2008 Man City have won

5 Premier Leagues
2 FA Cups
6 League Cups

Newcastle deserve to be top of the Premier league but it will take time to get there.

https://mobile.twitter.com/SkySportsNews/status/1446178879928950785

Loads of money to get there she means. Speaking of money I'd wonder how much that face cost?

Why?

Edit: Apologies, seems her statement not yours.

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Down / Re: Down Club Hurling & Football

« on: August 20, 2021, 08:26:14 AM »

I don’t think a club manager would carry 25 on a Friday if he knew his reserves were playin a match. A squad of 19 enough and 17 for the other match.
I don’t see how they couldn’t compete with Liatrom Shamrocks etc.

You’re always good for a laugh Smurf I’ll give you that.

U can only play 5 subs.. every manager worth their salt knows who he will bring on as a game changer or to plug a hole in defence.. why take 34 lads on ur senior panel when ya don’t need them..

I feel the clubs in division 3/4 know they wud struggle to compete with the second string of the likes of CPN, Burren, Mayobridge, Clonduff, Kilcoo and Carryduff and that’s why they don’t want it happening.. obviously if a lad plays division 4 for a few games and is goin well and the division one team takes him in and uses him in a game - he can’t then go back n play division 4 league for remainder of the year.. this thing would be easily managed as it is in most other counties.. It would be interesting to see how these players from lower leagues would fare against players from second string division one clubs..

On another note - this board would frustrate ya with the negative comments about small east down clubs players being overlooked.. do something about it.. Carryduff, CPN, Ballyholland etc were yo-yo clubs for years and got their houses in order with underage structures to feed the senior team - now they are established division one clubs..
Saul were the same between division 2/3 and got themselves together and sorted the problem.

It’s not rocket science to get your club established, competing, producing county standard players.. roll the sleeves up and get stuck in.

Aye so only bring 4 then. Makes perfect sense

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Down / Re: Down Club Hurling & Football

« on: August 19, 2021, 07:25:41 PM »

I don’t think a club manager would carry 25 on a Friday if he knew his reserves were playin a match. A squad of 19 enough and 17 for the other match.
I don’t see how they couldn’t compete with Liatrom Shamrocks etc.
St Paul’s went to 3 under Blaney and didn’t win a match. They got hammered every match
Eastwood and Tucker don’t mean to be smug but never heard of them. If teams have a player that is genuine county standard you would know. Coskery was known. McCumiskey was known.
I just don’t get the lower leagues comments. It’s a bit like the east down and south down stuff

You’re always good for a laugh Smurf I’ll give you that.

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General discussion / Re: "Economic inactivity" in the north

« on: August 06, 2021, 08:43:18 PM »

The kind of questions I want to ask are about how it could be discouraged. What are the incentives that people are responding to? Does it make economic sense for them not to work, and if so why?

The cost of childcare is at least one element that discourages people from working. I’m sure many on here pay full time childcare for one or more children so know how much it costs (I’m about to enter that world).  Completely disproportionate to salaries here. I can totally understand why people decide that the cost of childcare is just too high for them to financially benefit from working in paid employment, at least til school starts.

Universal Credit pays up to 85% of childcare

If you qualify for it. If you have a full time job that doesn’t pay a massive amount then in a lot of cases, as Rois said, it makes perfect sense not to work as the cost of childcare can be higher than salary minus travel expenses etc.

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General discussion / Re: "Economic inactivity" in the north

« on: August 06, 2021, 01:26:00 PM »

Some countries have a benefit system where the benefits for not working have a set time period. Be interesting to see how many would find work when the benefits stop. In my opinion someone who has worked and paid into the system should receive more than someone who has never worked

In what way?

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General discussion / Re: Speeding

« on: July 30, 2021, 06:28:58 PM »

Folks speed camera clocked me doing 38 in a 30 on the 30th June. Ticket arrived in the door today dated the 28th July. Can anyone shed light on whether it’s time barred and I can appeal it as it’s outside the 14 day notice period?

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General discussion / Re: Man Utd Thread:

« on: July 24, 2021, 09:43:23 PM »

Lol at above.

Let’s assume the experts have seen him play at least 10 times.

If you’ve got the time, energy and persuasion to have a hobby, it’s a commendable thing. If that hobby is an Irish man watching a German soccer team though, then it’s really just a bit strange and a bit off as a hobby  - and as a result your opinion on the matter should be nulled and void.

Struggling to understand the logic here? A United fan who is interested in soccer potential watching a few games which feature a player United have been heavily linked with is a bit strange? Including champions league games, say a German cup final and Dortmund Bayern games over the last 2/3 seasons could get you to 10 games.

I wouldn’t find that strange. Each to their own though!

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General discussion / Re: Sinn Fein? They have gone away, you know.

« on: June 09, 2021, 07:11:49 PM »

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/sinn-feinmembers-posed-as-pollstersto-collect-data-on-voters-40517853.html

Not a normal political party. If this is what they’re up to when not in power what will they get up to when they’re in power?

Yea, madness. No other party would dare be at that craic. Ever. Especially not one in power 

https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/varadkar-admitsfine-gael-paid-studentsto-misrepresent-themselves-to-voters-as-working-for-polling-company-40520674.html

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General discussion / Re: European Leagues.

« on: April 06, 2021, 09:18:24 AM »

Dembele scores a 90th minute winner for Barcelona against Valladolid

Atletico Madrid lost last night

Atletico 66
Barca 65
Scum 63

El Clasico is on Saturday at Real Madrid's new home venue - some park pitch beside a motorway

Valladolid shafted with that red card. Ridiculous decision.

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General discussion / Re: MPs unite to fight law that will make abortions available in Northern Ireland

« on: March 17, 2021, 08:01:59 AM »

Of course there’s some who use abortion as a means of contraception. 200,000 in uk annually, they’re not all rape, incest cases. You’re naive if you think otherwise.

Again
"97.7% of abortions in England & Wales were performed under ground C - the pregnancy has not exceeded its twenty-fourth week and that the continuance of the pregnancy would involve risk, greater than if the pregnancy were terminated, of injury to the physical or mental health of the pregnant woman."

The mental health one is a nice card to play.

We know how babies are made, we all know the consequences of the action behind them, 3 months later down the line if something has happened then it's time to face up and deal with consequences of your actions. It's a shame that your life may now be different and it's not just you anymore but that's a direct result of the actions you have taken.

I'd liken it to drink driving, there's a possibility something will go wrong when you sit into that car under the influence but if you do it then it's a decision you can't go back on and you should face the consequences.

There will be many women who have an abortion and will regret it later on in their lives, it will probably lead to mental health issues with them. It's interesting that those in favour of abortion yield out these statistics but only look at them through one lens.

Ultimately the decision to terminate a pregnancy of a perfectly healthy baby, created by your own conscious decisions and actions is the most selfish thing you could ever contemplate doing.

Ah Angelo lol