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#17
General discussion / Re: Noam Chomsky etc
January 05, 2024, 01:59:07 PM
Quote from: ThomasMullan on January 05, 2024, 01:03:26 PMBeing anti-US foreign policy doesn't make John Pilger a Putin stooge, excusing Putin's war crimes in Syria, Ukraine or wherever make him a Putin stooge or apologist would be a better word.

Guys like John Pilger and Noam Chomsky lost the plot somewhere along the way - everything has to fit into their anti-West viewpoint.
John Waters, Gemma O'Doherty and Ewan MacKenna are similar.
#18
General discussion / Re: Noam Chomsky etc
January 05, 2024, 12:58:05 PM
Quote from: Itchy on January 05, 2024, 11:48:22 AM
Quote from: Dag Dog on January 05, 2024, 11:20:10 AM
Quote from: Itchy on January 05, 2024, 10:25:25 AM
Quote from: Dag Dog on January 05, 2024, 09:58:25 AM
Quote from: Itchy on January 05, 2024, 09:40:09 AMBetter in comparison to the Iraq war, Syrian war, Gaza (I could go on). The USA (and NATO) are not the good guys. If you think they are I am afraid you are the victim of their concerted propaganda.
Better? Castrating and raping must be the better ones in your eyes.
Remind me how much Iraqi territory the USA managed to capture as their 51st state then?
 
No doubt you think that Assad and Putin are the good guys in Syria, because you do your own research, avoid the MSN.



I take your castrating/raping and I raise you Vietnam (raping and murder) and an illegal war started in Iraq with the lie of Weapons of Mass Destruction with 100's of thousands dead

Have a read of this Uncle Tom

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/05/15/war-on-terror-911-deaths-afghanistan-iraq/

4.5m deaths following 9/11 caused by the USA, 1m directly and 3.5m indirectly. I don't have figures on how many US soliders raped and castrated to hand but judging by what they were at in the guantanamo and abu ghraib I would be fairly confident their soldiers would be at pretty much the same horrors that the Russians are at.

The difference here is you think USA good, Russia Bad. I think USA Bad, Russia Bad. You need to open your eyes my friend.

And how does this make it right for Pilger to be a Putin stooge?


I was defending his right to be Anti NATO and Anti US, you took umbrage with that. If being Anti US and Anti NATO make you a Putin Stooge than I suppose I must be a Putin Stooge too.
He can hold whatever views he wants, but a journalist should be objective.
If he whitewashes genocide like Srebrenica because it was carried out by a group he favours, then that is dangerous.

#19
General discussion / Re: Noam Chomsky etc
January 05, 2024, 11:20:10 AM
Quote from: Itchy on January 05, 2024, 10:25:25 AM
Quote from: Dag Dog on January 05, 2024, 09:58:25 AM
Quote from: Itchy on January 05, 2024, 09:40:09 AMBetter in comparison to the Iraq war, Syrian war, Gaza (I could go on). The USA (and NATO) are not the good guys. If you think they are I am afraid you are the victim of their concerted propaganda.
Better? Castrating and raping must be the better ones in your eyes.
Remind me how much Iraqi territory the USA managed to capture as their 51st state then?
 
No doubt you think that Assad and Putin are the good guys in Syria, because you do your own research, avoid the MSN.



I take your castrating/raping and I raise you Vietnam (raping and murder) and an illegal war started in Iraq with the lie of Weapons of Mass Destruction with 100's of thousands dead

Have a read of this Uncle Tom

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/05/15/war-on-terror-911-deaths-afghanistan-iraq/

4.5m deaths following 9/11 caused by the USA, 1m directly and 3.5m indirectly. I don't have figures on how many US soliders raped and castrated to hand but judging by what they were at in the guantanamo and abu ghraib I would be fairly confident their soldiers would be at pretty much the same horrors that the Russians are at.

The difference here is you think USA good, Russia Bad. I think USA Bad, Russia Bad. You need to open your eyes my friend.

And how does this make it right for Pilger to be a Putin stooge?
#20
General discussion / Re: Noam Chomsky etc
January 05, 2024, 09:58:25 AM
Quote from: Itchy on January 05, 2024, 09:40:09 AMBetter in comparison to the Iraq war, Syrian war, Gaza (I could go on). The USA (and NATO) are not the good guys. If you think they are I am afraid you are the victim of their concerted propaganda.
Better? Castrating and raping must be the better ones in your eyes.
Remind me how much Iraqi territory the USA managed to capture as their 51st state then?
 
No doubt you think that Assad and Putin are the good guys in Syria, because you do your own research, avoid the MSN.

#21
General discussion / Re: Noam Chomsky etc
January 05, 2024, 09:38:35 AM
Quote from: bennydorano on January 05, 2024, 09:34:06 AMThe thing I noticed when Pilger died was there weren't many gushing tributes on twitter. John Simpson of C4 news gave a very cold factual one I found a bit odd tbh, Piers Morgan gave a good one (because he worked with him at the Mirror). But I was expecting a love in.

This one here is the first to actually stick their head above the parapet and say what they really think I reckon. Its an opinion piece, but every one has their blindspots & niaivities.

Some more clues here.

https://twitter.com/fergalrte/status/1741874308258099213

#22
General discussion / Re: Noam Chomsky etc
January 05, 2024, 09:36:36 AM
Quote from: Itchy on January 05, 2024, 08:02:03 AM
Quote from: Dag Dog on January 04, 2024, 05:57:38 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on January 04, 2024, 01:57:56 PMAs an owner of a book or two of John Pilger's works I was very interested/disappointed to read this article today, a tweet from Journo Oliver Kamm

I've written an assessment of the career of the late John Pilger. It's titled "John Pilger was a charlatan and a fraudster". Regrettably the facts do bear me out in this judgment. My thanks to @CapX for publishing it in full, for it is necessarily long.

https://capx.co/john-pilger-was-a-charlatan-and-a-fraudster/

Pilger is like many others, they appear normal at the start. When they're championing right-on, left wing causes they get a free pass.

They eventually implode into anti-Western, anti-US, anti-NATO madness. They'll back any regime with the same goals.

A few months back, Pilger was praising a pro-Putin article by Chay Bowes. That's how far he had plummeted.


Well maybe it is right to be Anti US, Anti NATO etc - if you hadn't noticed they seem to be the ones starting most wars and lying about them to us. Are they any better really than Putin?

Depends what "better" means. If the US sweeps into Mexico, captures 20% of it's territory, rapes, ethnic cleanses, captures Mexican children and sends them to be re-educated by USA parents, it would be "equal" to Putin at least.

Pilger clearly lost any moral compass when he started downplaying stuff like Srebrenica, purely because the enemy of his enemy was his friend.

But listen, alternative voice, fascinating views, thought provoking, doing your own research etc.
The idiots idea of a smart guy.
#23
General discussion / Re: Noam Chomsky etc
January 04, 2024, 05:57:38 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on January 04, 2024, 01:57:56 PMAs an owner of a book or two of John Pilger's works I was very interested/disappointed to read this article today, a tweet from Journo Oliver Kamm

I've written an assessment of the career of the late John Pilger. It's titled "John Pilger was a charlatan and a fraudster". Regrettably the facts do bear me out in this judgment. My thanks to @CapX for publishing it in full, for it is necessarily long.

https://capx.co/john-pilger-was-a-charlatan-and-a-fraudster/

Pilger is like many others, they appear normal at the start. When they're championing right-on, left wing causes they get a free pass.

They eventually implode into anti-Western, anti-US, anti-NATO madness. They'll back any regime with the same goals.

A few months back, Pilger was praising a pro-Putin article by Chay Bowes. That's how far he had plummeted.
#25
General discussion / Re: Man Utd Thread:
December 18, 2023, 06:43:01 PM
Classic attention seeking from the ref. He realised he wouldn't be a talking point, so had to fix that.
#27
General discussion / Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
October 20, 2023, 11:01:02 PM
He's the best example of how supreme self-confidence over ability can bring you a long way in life.
I know a couple of people who worked on the early Dublin summits. They couldn't believe it ever took off, as it was a shit show. He left loads of people unpaid too.

Interesting that barely anyone is sticking up for him. Too many bridges burned.
#28
General discussion / Re: The IRISH RUGBY thread
October 20, 2023, 09:34:33 PM
Last week's game were the WC semi finals. This is a challenge match.
#29
General discussion / Re: Who’s Been Cancelled??
October 20, 2023, 08:47:03 PM
I see Paddy Cosgrave is torching his Web Summit business with unwise tweeting.
He annoyed the Israeli tech community and it has spiralled.
He has always tweeted edgy stuff about the Irish scene and gotten away with it, like making up some yarn that 4 nurses had died at the start of Covid.

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/meta-google-and-stripe-to-boycott-web-summit-on-back-of-paddy-cosgraves-israel-comments/a1235054615.html
#30
General discussion / Re: The IRISH RUGBY thread
October 17, 2023, 04:14:35 PM
Quote from: markl121 on October 17, 2023, 02:25:41 PM
Quote from: JPGJOHNNYG on October 17, 2023, 12:46:04 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on October 17, 2023, 10:30:26 AM
Quote from: Joeythelips on October 17, 2023, 09:39:58 AMThe football team certainly does put things into perspective. I know people say we should not celebrate failure but we just witnessed a great Irish rugby team beat South Africa, hammer Scotland and just be pipped at the post by the All Blacks in a World Cup. They have been playing unbelievable rugby for the past couple of years. Then we look at our football team and lets be honest its a sad joke.
Could you imagine an Irish football team getting to a World Cup only to lose out at knockout stages, it literally would be beyond our wildest dreams given our recent history.

You are comparing apples with oranges though. They are 2 completely different sports.
One has a global following with any number of professional international teams. How many professional international rugby teams are there?
 The fact that Ireland can't get past the last 8 is damning, and that they needed Kiwis to even get that far. But until people wake up and realise they are failing on the biggest stage over and over and stop heaping bucketloads of superlatives on them then nothing will change.
Football fans are not shy of calling a spade a spade when it comes to the team or management.

The last line is nonsense. For some bizarre reason many fans and most of the Irish football journalists have been backing Kenny as if he was the second coming. Any rational person would have seen it was going horribly wrong very very early on. Some here have taken about 2 yrs extra for it all to finally sink in.
ah come on, anyone I know who follows the team have realised Kenny is nowhere near good enough. every result over the last few years and been texted around the WhatsApp groups "well is this the final straw?" its mad he has got so far.

Most journalists who write about the Irish national team are League of Ireland journos the rest of the time.
Kenny is seen as LOI gene pool manager and they don't want to put the knife into someone from that stable.