Would you be in favour of a second tier?

[marty34]

What's the joke? . Persist with a All Ireland that many teams have no chance of winning? They have 5 tiers in Hurling..

If the second tier is marketed well and has TV Coverage it could be a success. The winner qualifying for the All Ireland series the following year.

I agree.  If club football has 3 tiers - Senior, Junior and Intermediate, then county football should have 2 at least.  No county in Ireland has 1 championship where all club teams play in the same championship.

The GAA is totally different in that the league is a secondary competition whereas in other sports, the league winners are the best and most consistent team.

[BennyCake]

What's the joke? . Persist with a All Ireland that many teams have no chance of winning? They have 5 tiers in Hurling..

If the second tier is marketed well and has TV Coverage it could be a success. The winner qualifying for the All Ireland series the following year.

It won't be, and it won't be.

This is just HQ sweeping the unfair funding issue under the carpet.

Couldn't agree more .
He won't market this .
GAA president John Horan reveals a text message from RTE's Declan McBennett that he is confident the second tier championship )business end) will be covered.
That's what he told Congress today.
He has a text.
No coverage plans.
A text to cover semi finals and finals.
No other rounds

Anyone who think the Gaa will market this need their heads looked at

This tier 2 will get about as much coverage as the Meagher and Rackard cups get in hurling, ie. a 60 second highlights package on TSG.

It's funny though, because with the gaa and provincial councils wanting to keep the provincial championships, this format will actually finish them off. No big deal you may say, with Ulster and maybe Connacht seen as competitive. Donegal v Tyrone preliminary round, 4 games to win Ulster, and into QFs. Lose, play 2 qualifiers and into QFs. It's a no brainier. Why would they bother busting their nuts winning Ulster?

The tiered championships in hurling finished off the Ulster hurling championship. Yes it wasn't the standard of Munster or Leinster, but it was still entertaining, competitive with decent crowds.now watch the football championship go tits up too

[under the bar]

So Armagh and Down, perennial div 3 fodder that they are, will be contesting the Mickey mouse cup from 2020? LMAO! 

[Esmarelda]

I'm awful confused. Can someone tell me what the perceived merits of this are? To save time, the one I've heard is to give teams a chance to enter a competition they can win. I'd say that doesn't realistically apply to about half the teams entering so let's forget that one.

Anything else?

[Rossfan]

Half have a chance so?
In Tier 1 only 1 eighth or 1 sixteenth have a chance

[Cunny Funt]

Not shocked to see it voted in as 90% of the commentary and promotion in the lead up was about the "need" for 2nd tier championship to return.

It's one of those 3 year trial periods i see. Will be interesting to see what shape the lesser counties will be in after it. Educated guess would say no better than currently if not falling further behind.

[Esmarelda]

Half have a chance so?
In Tier 1 only 1 eighth or 1 sixteenth have a chance

In Tier one virtually no chance, in this set up very little chance.

Anything at all at all else?

Also have we any idea how both championships would work if one or more teams end up in the big boys' competition?

[rodney trotter]

What's the joke? . Persist with a All Ireland that many teams have no chance of winning? They have 5 tiers in Hurling..

If the second tier is marketed well and has TV Coverage it could be a success. The winner qualifying for the All Ireland series the following year.

All Ireland isn't all about who wins its and as it stands its Dublin's to lose for the foreseeable future. 

That's a big if by the way.

So what do you suggest. Keep them all in the All Ireland series with the aim of a Carlow or a Waterford getting to the Super 8s.? The weaker Counties are still playing in the Provincials..

They need sonething to play for. The weaker County managers all say they they enjoy playing in the League as they are playing teams at their level, who they can realistically beat

[Captain Obvious]

What's the joke? . Persist with a All Ireland that many teams have no chance of winning? They have 5 tiers in Hurling..

If the second tier is marketed well and has TV Coverage it could be a success. The winner qualifying for the All Ireland series the following year.

All Ireland isn't all about who wins its and as it stands its Dublin's to lose for the foreseeable future. 

That's a big if by the way.

So what do you suggest. Keep them all in the All Ireland series with the aim of a Carlow or a Waterford getting to the Super 8s.? The weaker Counties are still playing in the Provincials..

They need sonething to play for. The weaker County managers all say they they enjoy playing in the League as they are playing teams at their level, who they can realistically beat

Make the four leagues more important. By accident division two will be made more important next year.

[Ball Hopper]

What's the joke? . Persist with a All Ireland that many teams have no chance of winning? They have 5 tiers in Hurling..

If the second tier is marketed well and has TV Coverage it could be a success. The winner qualifying for the All Ireland series the following year.

All Ireland isn't all about who wins its and as it stands its Dublin's to lose for the foreseeable future. 

That's a big if by the way.

So what do you suggest. Keep them all in the All Ireland series with the aim of a Carlow or a Waterford getting to the Super 8s.? The weaker Counties are still playing in the Provincials..

They need sonething to play for. The weaker County managers all say they they enjoy playing in the League as they are playing teams at their level, who they can realistically beat

Put a summer league in place for the lower 12 or 16...gives a chance to see the smaller, lighter, skilled players on hard ground who would have trouble showing in the heavier conditions and poor weather.

[Esmarelda]

"What would you suggest" has nothing to do with what's been done, but for a start they could've waited for the fixtures review committee to finish their work. They could have listened to what the players from the lower divisions were saying through the GPA. The only relevant question at this stage is why they were in such a rush?

[t_mac]

So Armagh and Down, perennial div 3 fodder that they are, will be contesting the Mickey mouse cup from 2020? LMAO! 

McKenna cup winners should get an automatic invite.

[FermGael]

How do the qualifiers work now ?
I assume they are basically capped to 8 teams because the powers that be are assuming there will be 8 division 1 or 2 teams in the 4 provincial finals.
Does this mean the qualifiers can't begin until after the all the provincial semi finals are completed ?
Could a team be waiting for over 6 weeks for a qualifier if they are in the top 2 divisions and get knocked out in a premilarily round game like the losers of the Donegal v Tyrone game in Ulster next year ?

[Esmarelda]

How do the qualifiers work now ?
I assume they are basically capped to 8 teams because the powers that be are assuming there will be 8 division 1 or 2 teams in the 4 provincial finals.
Does this mean the qualifiers can't begin until after the all the provincial semi finals are completed ?
Could a team be waiting for over 6 weeks for a qualifier if they are in the top 2 divisions and get knocked out in a premilarily round game like the losers of the Donegal v Tyrone game in Ulster next year ?

Good question and there are many more besides. 

Has it been thought through?

[dublin7]

All the people crying over the  possible coverage given to 2nd tier counties under the new proposal are living in a different world to everyone else.

Under the current plan the likes of Carlow, Louth, Wicklow etc get f**k all coverage and yet these counties are crying about it. If these county boards  genuinely cared about players for their team they might do something. 

Another reason why Irish football is f**ked when you have thw current board and Conway in charge